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  1. Alex says:
    August 16, 2014 at 11:59 pm

    Empty words, I’m afraid Dave. Islamic extremists are openly preaching hatred on the streets of East London, have infiltrated schools and yet because of successive governments we now have a situation where decent, law-abiding citizens are petrified of speaking out for fear of being branded ‘racist’. Extremism, from whatever faith community, can only be stopped by co-operation across all religions on the basis of an acceptance that there is a problem. And the BBC alongside other left-wing media is part of the problem.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/iraq/11039214/PM-Our-generational-struggle-against-a-poisonous-ideology.html

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    • dave s says:
      August 17, 2014 at 12:25 am

      Solzhenitsyn –
      “Life organised legalistically has thus shown it’s inability to defend itself against the corrosion of evil”
      We in the West are at a disadvantage. It is time we understood this. If we do we can survive. If not then eventually the West will fall.
      In the end it is our will to fight that matters. The IDF defends Israel and not some vague belief in the goodness of mankind and human rights laws. This is how it will be for us. And so we must look to our young people to defend us.
      There will then be no place for the current fashionable nonsenses. Time to face reality. Time to decide who our real friends are. Time to speak plainly to the people of this country and Europe.
      This is an existential matter. It has been coming for a long time and it puzzles me that our liberal elite seems so surprised.

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  2. Thoughtful says:
    August 17, 2014 at 7:40 am

    The Radio 4 BBC news reports that the Bishop of Leeds has written a letter to the Observer, with the full support of the Archbishop of Canterbury.
    The letter criticises Cameron for doing little or nothing about the plight of the Yazidis in Iraq. They call the ‘Christians’ but to my mind they might practise some Christian doctrine, but are in fact somewhere between Christianity and Islam.

    They couldn’t manage to get the Bishop of Leeds on, so they wheeled on the most left wing Bishop they could find, the Bishop of Manchester. His insanity and naivety was jaw dropping. Of course as expected it’s all our fault this is happening by some twisted thinking, and apparently we should allow them all into the UK as they would ‘enrich’ our lives here.
    Well Bishop – back to the Fascism eh? We have a name for that & it’s called ‘ethnic cleansing’. IS wants the area free of any faith other than their own, and the Church of England is there ready to assist them in achieving that! 2000 years of Yazidi history in Iraq and the C of E wants to destroy it in the name of left wing stupidity.

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    • dave s says:
      August 17, 2014 at 11:36 am

      It has become clear that the only answer the liberal left can muster is to do exactly what Isis want. They disguise it as a humanitarian act but offering to take the Yazidis and Christians is to do what Isis want us to do.
      The ME will then be cleansed of the hated infidel. Never mind that this is ethnic cleansing on a grand scale.
      No wonder Israel is so determind to hold the line.
      It is not just the Cof E that is so naive. Our liberal media and politicians are as bad.
      This is a clash of civilisations. Inevitable and part of the world.

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  3. Thoughtful says:
    August 17, 2014 at 7:43 am

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2726859/BBC-crisis-Cliff-raid-Police-fury-TV-chiefs-screened-dramatic-swoop.html

    BBC accused of blackmailing Yorkshire Police over the raid at Cliff Richards property, and have sent a letter of complaint to the Director General (not that it will get them anywhere !)

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    • Guess Who says:
      August 17, 2014 at 8:37 am

      This has provoked a rather ‘two wrongs’ reaction…
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      @MeirionTweets: Sickening @DailyMailUK trying to create row about BBC & Cliff Richard raid Mail and all hacks have made such deals with cops 100s of times
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      Not to sure if it’s only the DM, mind…
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      @mediaguardian: South Yorkshire police complain to the BBC over Cliff Richard case http://t.co/9FjWTbVnXW
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      So far it is looking more to me (and, clearly, a few media types irrespective of ideology) like any row created has been pretty much by the BBC’s own actions. Again.

      Which to some others may be more sickening still.

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  4. Edited Highlights says:
    August 17, 2014 at 7:48 am

    ‘Tesco store trashed by Gaza protesters’

    Can’t find that one on the world class thoroughly impartial BBC yet!

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    • Guess Who says:
      August 17, 2014 at 8:17 am

      If and when covered, one is sure we will be informed.
      It will be interesting to discover the motivations behind the trashing.
      It would be ironic if it was by any inspired by our government and many media seeing fit to censure more those merely expressing concerns on those who resort to physical threat than those actually running riot.
      History shows appeasement seldom motivates the demanding to cease aggression or threats of it. Why would they, when it clearly works.

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  5. George R says:
    August 17, 2014 at 8:21 am

    This is a report from Israel which the INBBC may therefore want to censor:-

    “Intelligence:
    – Islamic State Planning Terror Attack in US, Europe.

    “Concerns grow over IS influence abroad, as intelligence officials claim terror group rivals Al Qaeda in the Middle East.”

    http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/184107?#.U_BWOMVdW9Y

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  6. NISA says:
    August 17, 2014 at 9:27 am

    News bulletins have been telling me all morning that the Bishop of Leeds & other CofE folk have been highly critical of Cameron’s policy towards the Islamic State. The belletins have never gone on to tell me what the church folk actually want to happen. Perhaps the BBC prefer to leave it at Tory knocking as the only action I can see that the Church want is the highly unpopular idea of yet more immigration/asylum (for displaced Christians)

    http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/aug/16/church-of-england-attack-david-cameron-middle-east-policy

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  7. Thoughtful says:
    August 17, 2014 at 9:41 am

    What is going on with this site? Posts are completely out of order, and some of the posts I wrote have not appeared at all!
    Someone needs to either sort this or have the pages rewritten !

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  8. noggin says:
    August 17, 2014 at 9:50 am

    No information on BBC “flagship ethics, moral issues” fest Sunday Morning Live?
    “struggle when they don’t have total control of the edit or audience”

    Gaza? … Syria? … how about Sir Cliffmas? … perhaps?
    … rise in expectation of “home grown” Islamic wannabe mass murderers? (no I didn t think so either :-D)

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  9. AsISeeIt says:
    August 17, 2014 at 9:51 am

    This report may already have been by pointed out but it is worth highlighting… Leveson and all that, BBC

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-28823699

    ‘South Yorkshire Police has complained to the BBC after the broadcaster gained details of a search the force was planning to conduct at pop star Sir Cliff Richard’s home.’

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    • Guest Who says:
      August 17, 2014 at 11:27 am

      IIRC Leveson was one of the BBC’s fave projects to push, not least because it was aimed at a section of media that, surprise, uniquely excluded the BBC.
      Many thought and still think OFCOM (run by a person not unconflicted anyway, beyond being a quango ombudsman as useful as a chocolate teapot) is the final word on BBC oversight, but in reality almost everything remains under the internal and secret control of the BBC Trust.
      Be interesting if SYP get fed into the CECUTT mincer for 6 months or more, before being patted on the head and told the BBC believes the BBC is again right, but it has been posted on the lavvy door to giggle at their impotence in the face of absolute lack of accountability.

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  10. Pounce says:
    August 17, 2014 at 10:02 am

    I’ve been catching up with the news this morning and my heart dropped a little on the news that 312 Yazidis have been butchered by ISIS this past 24 hours, this follows the 80 odd murdered the otherday, which follows the 2500 killed in cold blood this past fortnight by ISIS (And those are only the ones we know about) and yet the world renowned bBC which left out the 2500, reports the new mass murders as such:
    “Dakhil Atto Solo said that 300 men had been executed in his village. The report could not be verified independently.”
    Could not be verified independently. Has anybody ever seen the bBC use such a term for when it reports death reports from Islamic terrorist orgs. Be it Pakistan,Yemen,Somalia,Nigeria,Afghanistan or even Gaza the bBC reports what the Terrorists tell them as fact.

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    • Pounce says:
      August 17, 2014 at 10:12 am

      And here are three examples from this week of how close the bBC is to Islamic terrorism.
      My SMS relationship with al-Shabab
      The other morning I woke up to a text message and missed call from al-Shabab.As always, the message was written in perfect English. It informed me about a film al-Shabab has made called Beyond the Shadows. It said the film gave an “accurate portrayal” of what happened when French commandoes last year tried – and failed – to rescue a suspected French intelligence agent held hostage by the group.

      Somali warlord Ahmed Dai ‘on the run’ after disarmament raid
      A Somali militia commander in the capital, Mogadishu, has told the BBC he is on the run after the government launched an operation to disarm him.

      British ‘jihadist’ describes his plan to go to Iraq or Syria to fight
      One British man who is still in the UK has told the BBC in an interview that he feels it is his “obligation” to now go to Iraq or Syria. We don’t know his real name, or where he comes from in the UK, and during our TV interview his face is covered with a bright red scarf.

      The bBC, the propaganda arm for Islamic terrorism in the UK.

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      • John Anderson says:
        August 17, 2014 at 11:04 am

        and has the BBC reported to the police their interview with the UK jihadist-wannabee ?

        If not – why not ?

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