Well then, it’s been a big 24 hours for UKIP. Clacton was EVEN more of an impressive win than “the pundits” were suggesting and then there was UKIP coming within just over 600 votes of unseating Labour in Heywood and Middleton. As regards the latter, I notice the BBC parrot the Labour spin that they “increased their share of the vote”. Yes, but they also LOST 9000 voters from last time round and a safe Labour seat is now a very tight marginal. The BBC, like much of the rest of the media, have worked on the assumption that UKIP can only win in Conservative heartlands. Last evening proved just how fatally wrong that assumption could be next May. The BBC’s hero, Miliband, is now every bit exposed by UKIP as Cameron is, and it will be fascinating to see how they handle this issue between now and next May.
HEYWOOD AND MIDDLETON…
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9700 postal votes allocated in Middleton and Heywood of which 75% were returned, via an overall turnout of 36%…Did Labour steal the election via postal votes again one wonders?
No doubt in my mind that they did.
I have been to Heywood, and it is yet another Islamic shithole of the north, so, why the hell would “local” as in the old working class white folk vote for Labour, after the treachery of the party to it’s core supporters?
I am at a total loss to explain it…I know they won’t vote Tory, that’s a given, a heck of a lot of the North has been brainwashed, I should know, being Northern myself, but, there is a credible party, active in issues that they support, yet they still voted, in numbers, for the Labour twats.
If I were Nigel, right now, I’d be demanding that voter fraud was looked into in Heywood & Middleton.
Heywood and Middleton isn’t that far away from me and I used to travel through there regularly. Heywood is marginally better than Middleton but that’d be like comparing cat shit to dog shit. There used to be a decent pub run in Heywood but they’ve probably all shut or been turned into mosques by now. The place is an utter shit hole and that’s no exaggeration. That’s what you get when you’ve been voting Labour since the year dot … looks like a few of em are beginning to wake up.
Re: the election. There’s a reason why Labour are so animated by this result, it’s simple, despite all the gerrymandering, the corrupt postal voting system, the local Labour drones and council staffers counting the votes in their rotten borough etc, they got in by the skin of their fucking teeth. They know they just stole an election and if this country didn’t shame a banana republic, that NHS pilgrim and part-time witch would’ve lost. Labour are shitting it, to be frank.
Last time, well, the only time I went to Heywood was to drop a mate from work off as we were having a bit of heavy snow…I went on the pub run with him that night, and it was excellent….that was about…what, 10-12 years ago, I expect all the pubs to be closed now.
I was born and raised in Oldham, so I know just how awful Middleton is.
That entire area has been compromised, Oldham, Middleton, Rochdale, Bury & Bolton…and what is it that all those towns have in common?
Labour.
If you ask me Rochdale is the worst … like the Khyber Pass but with pound and charity shops. I had the misfortune to go through there a few years back as I was off to Spotland to watch Bury (although I support United). A thoroughly enriched and braindead populace is harder to find, no wonder they vote Labour. I think Bolton is the next worse, Bury is probably the best as it is less enriched than the others.
They all have Labour and erm, Indian subcontinet immigration in common. I did some EFL teaching in Oldham. They were either recent immigrants or unemployed asians. They were OK, when there was an eclipse they all went to pray thinking the world was coming to an end. I was stuck in another room with the five or so who thought it was all bollocks. Oldham is a dump but not as bad as Rochdale … that was many years ago though.
I detest Labour with every inch of my being and I was one of them, an archetype Labour drone. Everyone in our family voted Labour, again and again and again. I just pray for Labour’s extinction, it’s the least they deserve. I think the Labour leadership should be hanged for treachery, and their councillors and other fellow travellers should be De-Labourfied, but that’s just my opinion.
You’re right, no one up here will vote Tory, UKIP are your best bet to get rid of the sitting Labour MP.
For those of us with grey or little hair left this seems to be a classic rerun of the rise and fall of the SDP. the electoral system precludes any third party breakthrough unless one of the others commits suicide as the liberals did after WW1 . In the 83 election it’s almost forgotten now that the SDP-Lib alliance took over 25% of the vote but only got 23 seats! As there will not be a Tory-Ukip alliance (Cameron will lose his centre right to the Libs) then I can see UKIP pilling up the votes but having about the same number of seats as the SNP. And less influence. Who remembers the SDP’s impact in the mid period Thatcher Govt?
I’m not surprised the Labour vote held up. UKIP simply don’t convince yet that they have creditable economic policies that will stand scrutiny. The Tories have committed hari kari by stating they are freezing benefits to low paid workers: this would be fertile ground for UKIP to make a genuine commitment to raise living standards for the core Labour vote. At the end of the day all elections are won on the economy and UKIP need to build an argument that convinces a majority to vote their way.
(Wiki has a good potted history on the short history of the SDP here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Democratic_Party_(UK))
I’m not surprised the Labour vote held up. UKIP simply don’t convince yet that they have creditable economic policies that will stand scrutiny.
So they voted for the party that has the worst economic record in living memory.
It’s interesting to note that if the votes cast in the two by elections yesterday are taken together, we find that UKIP got more votes than the total cast for the Lib/Lab/Cons combined.
UKIP should as a matter of urgency ask the returning officer to validate a number of those postal votes and if any turn up review every one of them.
That presupposes that the returning officer is straight. Places like Middleton are one party states, and the local government apparatchiki know where their best interests lie.
There’s some video footage doing the rounds on the blogosphere of the returning officer being heard to say to the successful candidate that “she would have won whatever the result”. I read somewhere that the returning officer was a Labour Mayor at some stage. Whether true or not, she certainly needs to answer questions about her utterance to the Labour winner.
did you catch john pienaar on radio 5 live this morning on radio 5 live 6.am onwards.man this guy is annoying to say the least,we had 3 hours of him badgering ukip supporters and trying to make them feel zenophobic for voting for ukip,we had lefty plants all over clacton for good old john to put his microphone in front of them to slag off ukip,did you hear that guy from that socalist group calleed stand up to ukip being interviewed,he sounded either drunk or stoned out of his head,good old john pienaar never misses a chance to give ukip a bashing even in time of victory like today in clacton.
Funnily enough,both Ken Clarke and Lembit Opik looked a bit the worse for wear earlier on Channel 4.
Lembit might as well lead what`s left of the LibDems now…offering a Cheeky Girl to anyone who`ll not shit on his chest may well be the new direction for the new Liberal vision.
Where was Lord Rennard by the way…or indeed any LibDem speaker today on the media…can`t all be nicking Corby trouser presses can they?
For Beeboids to air?:-
“IF THE TORY PARTY WAS SERIOUS ABOUT KEEPING ED MILIBAND OUT IT WOULDN’T HAVE CONTESTED HEYWOOD AND MIDDLETON.”
By Raheem Kassam.
http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-London/2014/10/10/If-the-Conservative-Party-Was-Serious-About-Keeping-Ed-Miliband-Out
Middleton used to be a great place to live and a smart town until the boundary changes took place and the town came under Rochdale and labour’s grip, it went down hill pretty quickly and while plenty of taxpayer’s money is wasted on dragging that slum out of the gutter (although it is consistently one of the worst performing councils going) Middleton has been dragged down to Rochdale’s shithole level.
Labour and Rochdale have never liked the fact that Middleton is a relatively asian free zone and are hell bent on changing this state of affairs. Labour are scum, they are as devious as the Nazis ever were, get in the way of their agenda and they will attempt to destroy you, as they did to a BNP councillor called Dawn Charlton ,who, despite getting a huge percent of the vote in a local election in a Northern town, has been subject to numerous trumped up charges and has been constantly harassed by the left wing poodles (otherwise known as the police) resulting in numerous court cases which get dismissed every time. They have basically tried to destroy her and deny democracy.
I’ve no doubt that the Heywood and Midd vote could have been dodgy but what frustrated me more is the amount of people who didn’t vote but say that if they had they would have voted UKIP.!! Voter apathy giving labour breathing space..now watch their party political mouthpiece, the BBC, go into overdrive with the attempt to destroy UKIP, as they have every other party who dares to disagree with their plan for the UK.