This is what the Guardian and the BBC would prefer you to see:
A savage attack on the offices of a satirical, left wing magazine. Ten staff are murdered as well as two police officers, and many others are injured. This wasn’t just an attempt to kill these people, it was an attack on the very basis of Western civilisation…that of essential freedoms.
Or freedoms we should have but which are curtailed by the thought police…prime guardian of the right to define what we should think and enforcer of that is of course our very own BBC.
The reaction to the murders was depressingly all too familiar…the hypocrisy piled upon hypocrisy, the weasel words, the burying of the truth by politicians, the Media and the Muslim organisations which were wheeled in to assure us that this has nothing to do with Islam.
On hearing the news of the attack I’m certain many of you reading this would soon have been wondering just how long before we would start to hear the subtle insinuations that this is blowback, that ‘Charlie Hebdo’ brought it upon themselves, that we must not do anything further to upset Muslims, we must not ‘provoke’ them, that Muslims are the first victims of this attack.
And you’d have been right.
Cameron at PMQs told us he stood four square behind democracy and freedom of speech…this is the man who denied people a referendum on Europe and has said he will sack any minister who doesn’t support his view on Europe.
Merkel told us this was an attack on freedom of speech, a core element of Western democracy…and yet she has spent the last week denouncing protestors who march against the Islamisation of Germany calling them racist and people with ‘hate in their hearts’. Will there be ‘lights out in Cologne’ tonight?
Malcolm Rifkind came onto the BBC and told us this was all about IS and Syria ( in fact the gunmen claim to be from Al Qaeda in the Yemen) trying to disassociate this from Islam in general, he told us the magazine went out of its way to criticise Muslim extremists…is he saying it’s their fault? He then essentially accepted the basic premise of the Islamic terrorist’s case by saying we should negotiate with them….this is one of the men who failed to intervene in Bosnia with disastrous results.
Then we had the pleasure of hearing Mohammed Shafiq, head of the Ramadan Foundation, on 5Live who told us that the cartoons published by Charlie Hebdo were ‘despicable’ and ‘insulting’…but of course he condemned the murders. However the real problem was that the attack would make it harder for Society to deal with Islamophobia and attacks on Muslims….and that we need to be less melodramatic about ‘freedom of speech’ being under attack. Of course we had the inevitable BBC presenter’s genuflexion towards political correctness when he asked ‘Are the killers Muslim?’…obviously trying to elicit the equally inevitable answer that ‘No, they are not…nothing Islamic about any of this at all…honest.’...an answer which indeed was quick in coming. Harry’s Place illustrates the slippery nature of Shaifq’s rhetoric.
Naturally no news story about Islam on the BBC is worth hearing without a quote from the extremist MCB….the MCB which many might believe was at the heart of the Trojan Horse affair where ‘conservative Muslims’ tried to hijack and Islamise British schools. In 2007 the MCB sent out a policy document to education authorities up and down the country urging them to ‘Islamise’ their schools…to make them Islam friendly…this was to be done in order to allow Muslim pupils to integrate properly by fully practising their religion in school….’ The result of meeting Muslim needs in mainstream schools is that Islam and Muslims become a normal part of British life and that we become fully integrated in this way’.…..the threat was implicit…if you don’t allow this the Muslim pupils will not integrate and will become alienated and angry and then…well, who knows. The BBC refused to mention this document when reporting on the ‘Trojan Horse’ plot as it gave the lie to their own assertion that the ‘Trojan Horse’ plot was a ‘provocative hoax’….and that people who were concerned about the Islamisation of schools were paranoid and racist.
Then of course we have the BBC itself…we are hearing a lot about the horror of this attack but also about freedom of speech and the freedom of the Press…and yet it was the BBC who were one of the leaders of the attack on News International, an attack that was intended to close down if possible and certainly to muzzle as much as possible, a political and commercial rival which propagated ideas and thoughts that were abhorrent to the good, liberal, tolerant, folk at the BBC, amongst others.
Using the excuse of the phone hacking scandal, a crime not just perpetrated by Murdoch journalists though you might have thought so from the BBC’s partisan coverage, they set out to remove that allegedly treasured freedom of speech and freedom of the Press from one organisation in particular.
‘Leveson’ in effect is no different to the terrorists who try to intimidate people into silence, into not saying anything they disapprove of. An FBI agent once said that the only difference between the Islamist terrorist and the Islamist is that the terrorists carry AK47’s….meaning that their aims were exactly the same, just the methods were different….as with Gerry Adams who has given up the bullet for the ballot…but his aim is exactly the same…a united Ireland….the fight goes on.
You may remember this when Islamic countries tried to silence critics of Islam….
UN-acceptable censorship: The United Nations tries to outlaw criticism of Islam
What is the difference between the terrorists in France murdering people who criticise Islam and those who use other methods to silence them? Are these countries also ‘unIslamic’?
The only difference is the lack of AK47s…however that threat was implicit, explicit even, as the head of the OIC stated….
“If the Western world fails to understand the sensitivity of the Muslim world, then we are in trouble,” he told the AP. He said provocative insults are “a threat to international peace and security and the sanctity of life.”
Sadly nearly all commentators refuse to admit that ‘peaceful Muslims’ can have the same aims as the violent ones. Here is a comment from today’s Spectator which tries to make that split:
Mohammed Moussaoui, head of the French Council of the Muslim Faith, said his organisation deplored the magazine’s treatment of Islam ‘but reaffirms with force its total opposition to all acts and all forms of violence’….
As Muslim leaders know, one of the jihadis’s aims is to persuade others that they speak for Islam – to promote the idea or a war between Islam and freedom.
The Spectator is trying to make a case that Islam promotes freedom of speech and religion. It does not. Until commentators and politicians begin to admit Islam has a problem with certain freedoms there will be no solution.
Let’s remember what a British Muslim thought of freedom of speech…it’s all a bit fascist….
Sarah Joseph, editor of the British Muslim lifestyle magazine Emel, wrote in the Guardian: “Some countries that have reprinted the images – Spain, France, Italy and Germany – have a nasty history of fascism . . . Now the great shape-shifter of fascism seems to have taken on the clothes of ‘freedom of speech’.”
Back to the BBC and their resident expert on all things Islamic and terrorist, Frank Gardner, who speaks up telling us that there have been several attacks in France…mostly by psychologically disturbed people who have their own personal issues and problems…nothing to do with Islam you understand. He goes on to tell us that the cartoons in Charlie Hebdo were ‘insulting’….no, they were not intended to insult Muslims but to raise serious issues in a satirical and comic manner.
Then I heard a presenter ask ‘How much of an issue are the disenfranchised Muslims who become jihadis, go to Syria and then return?’
Now just where did the presenter get that word ‘disenfranchised’ from and why does she associate it with French Muslims who become Jihadis? It is almost BBC policy to make that link. Right there you see the problem with many at the BBC who blame society for the ‘anger and alienation’ of Muslim youth rather than putting the blame where it belongs…in Muslim teachings and with the Muslim terrorists themselves…..a tendency to shift the blame that the Telegraph notes…
[Some ] contextualise the attacks against the backdrop of alienation felt by many French Muslims.
Underlying all this was a persistent assumption. Islamist attacks are only ever reactions, only ever brought about by provocation from the West. All the way back to the Ayatollah Khomeini’s contract on the head of Salman Rushdie in 1989, we have accepted the idea that it is up to authors, artists and cartoonists to justify themselves in the face of threats and real violence.
“What a shame this much blood has had to be spilled for us to realise, finally, that we are digging our own graves when we allow thought to be crushed by accusations of unbelief, calling people infidels, and when we allow opinion to be countered with violence.”
As the New Statesman says there is an essential discussion to be had about society and what it should look like…..the question is will an influx of people with an ideology at odds with a secular democratic society endanger the cohesion and stability of that society?:
We have to stop mistaking healthy criticism of religion for racism, and must not let discussion of immigration and security elbow out the more important debate on secularism and citizenship.
Is Britain becoming too diverse to sustain the mutual obligations behind a good society and the welfare state?
The nation state remains irreplaceable as the site for democratic participation and it is hard to imagine how else one can organise welfare states and redistribution except through national tax and public spending. Moreover, since the arrival of immigrant groups from non-liberal or illiberal cultures it has become clear that to remain liberal the state may have to prescribe a clearer hierarchy of values.
The gulf between conservative Islam and secular liberal Britain is larger than with any comparable large group….for those of us who value an open, liberal society it is time to explain why it is superior to the alternatives.
Some claim that if people understood Islam more everything would be fine, they would be more tolerant, I think quite the contrary….the more they understand about it the more alien they would find it…authoritarian, collectivist, patriarchal, misogynist…..all sorts of things that Britain might have been 100 years ago but isn’t now.
‘Love is stronger than hate’
Ten people from Charlie Hebdo lost their lives in the pursuit of a civilised society. Let’s hope their sacrifice, knowing the dangers they faced, is not forgotten and all too soon turned back upon them by the voices of compromise and submission. Let’s hope that their values and beliefs are not buried with them.
Peter Allen on 5Live told us that this was an ‘attack on our fundamental beliefs’..…good for him…but just how long will that attitude last?
AND YET still the Left are more concerned about an anti-Muslim backlash – “Nothing to do with Islam” and “These terrorists don’t represent Islam” and so on! You couldnae f**king make it up! Directly under the BBC headline of this most revolting act of foul terror from medieval butchers, were posts of tweets from ‘moderate’ Muslim leaders condemning the attack! FFS, people are getting shot to pieces and yet these grovelling Dhimmis are worried about keeping up appearances!
We are seeing desperate attempts by the state-controlled media to continue with their brainwashing program: it’s finished, though. The game’s over…. The fact is, If this religion isn’t stood up to and brought into the 21st century, then WW3 is a certainty. We simply cannot live in peace when followers of a religion shoot people out of supremacism, intolerance and sensitivity. We should be worried!
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It’s worth googling ‘Salafism’ to learn more about our ‘peaceful’ Muslim brothers.
I watched Al Jazeera (given up on BBC 24) to be told that a Muslim leader there unconditionally condemned the attack – but the reporter then added that he was a well-known moderate much disliked by most Muslims and requiring 24 hour police protection. Do you think BBC would have added that qualifier which seems to suggest that many Muslims are NOT moderate
I watched and compared SKY News’ reporting of this terrorist attack with the BBC’s reporting.
I’m no lover of either, but SKY was on pace with numerous articles and updates.
The BBC’s News page stood frozen with the basic story all day.
In other words, instead of reporting what was happening and keeping the public updated, they were deciding how to handle it.
Rarely have I felt so sickened as when I started to watch the Six o’ Clock News tonight and heard Hew Edwards basically say that Charlie Hebdo was asking for it.
What happened today was a Game Changer and no amount of empty words from the politicians or excuses from the BBC is going to stop that.
Indeed, the very thought went through me that “this is war”…….
What is freaking me out, is that these MUSLIM TERRORISTS hit one the progressive left’s own.
Yet the grovelling continues.
What happens if say, The Guardian is hit, will the BBC STILL grovel to Islam, or will they take off the gloves, and start reporting on the atrocities, in no uncertain terms, that are carried out in the name of Islam?
A message from the past for Al Beeb.
“An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last.”
Winston Churchill
The islamic problem is a simple one to understand..they want to subjugate the world, just as they have done since the inception of their cult, and the solution is even simpler..force every one of them out of the Western world they hate so much. It’s clear that the two worlds do not belong together.
Do the historians think that the Crusaders, on a whim, sailed over dangerous seas, marched for months through some of the hostile lands on earth at the time and risked everything that they owned, including their lives, for a bit of fun?
It had to be done to stem the tide of islam and prevent its brainwashed followers from swamping Europe and destroying ‘inferior religions’, now the same is happening, but, this time, they haven’t required force they simply relied on cowards like the liebour party, the bbc, cameron, Bliar, Obama, the Christian church and its leaders and many blind fools who, without question, have got on their knees in front of these islamic zealots and met their every whim.
Now the true picture is becoming clearer by the day, every country in the world is in danger of some sort of threat from the ‘religion of peace’, even their own ‘caliphate’ isn’t safe from murder. They have grown in confidence, they have grown in numbers and they are growing in their zeal to enforce islam, be it by the pen or the AK47.
After today’s atrocity in Paris, do people really believe that the liberal lefty zombies who run every part of our bureaucracy and police forces can protect us from these madmen?
A very good description has been tagged to Swedish men who have done little to stop their country from becoming islamised and their women from being raped…it is emasculated, unfortunately, the majority of the Western world is suffering the same fate and this is allowing these people to do whatever they want, yet still the ‘leaders’ try to appease them. They are powerless to prevent an attack like this.
Well spoken sir. Islamists don’t believe in free speech, or democracy. They believe in the absolute unqualified submission to the word of Allah. They believe in Theocracy, not democracy. How this bunch of people still living in the 7th Century got into our midst in the 21st century is a mystery. No, hang on, it isn’t a mystery, it was a deliberate tactic of Labour to brown Britain, brand any protest racist, and secure their endless rule in the name of the proletariat, supported by the ethnic vote, from their champagne-socialist manors. (Obama, Hollande, all the same calculation, the black/muslim vote keeps repaying)
Except its all gone badly wrong. The French at least claimed to believe in assimilation, not multiculturalism. You want to live here? You are welcome to join us and become one of us. Not the “celebrate diversity” garbage that is in the job description of every British civil servant. Blair and Brown effectively welcomed the cultural equivalent of Ebola into Britain for personal advantage. Now the BBC are not sure how to spin it.
Islamophobia, fear of backlash, its all beginning to sound a bit hollow. Which national broadcaster in Europe wouldn’t publish the cartoons as proper news reporting, so we can make up our own minds? The BBC. Which satirical magazine has never lampooned the religion of peace? Cowardly Tory-baiting teleperson Hislop and no-balls Private Eye.
I’m afraid that our prime minister’s weasel words did little to comfort me. Telling us that we are “standing shoulder to shoulder” and that he “condemns all acts of terrorism” is really pretty feeble stuff. I mean we’ve heard it all before so many times it’s becoming predictable and bloody tedious. Obviously the phrase “all acts of terrorism” is a subtle piece of camouflage to cover the fact that there is only one body of people responsible for these ghastly acts. Who else are we talking about? Poor Dave is clearly out of his depth. Islam is the elephant in the room, just like Nazism was in the thirties. Dave is beginning to sound like a latter day Neville Chamberlain. If only he’d grow a ‘tache and flap a piece of paper about it really would complete the ensemble.
Funny old world, isn’t it?
In 1993, a black boy was killed in a spontaneous attack by a group of teenagers. Although tragic, spontaneous violence is hardly unheard of amongst teenagers, yet we were treated to extensive coverage and comment for years, and a law several hundred years old was changed as a result because it had been decided that the murder was evidence of a deeper malaise in parts of white society. Violence solely within the victim’s ethnic group continues to be more-or-less ignored.
Now, people are being murdered in large scale and gruesome premeditated attacks from China to Thailand, Africa to Europe and in America, yet we are seriously expected to believe that this implies nothing sinister about the people who are actually doing it.
Who is this black boy? If you are referring to Stephen Lawrence then there is only the untested word of one witness who neither the Police or the Lawrence family believed.
In fact the events as he described them as so highly unlikely that the Police bugged his house to find if he would admit he was lying.
The Modus operandi of these kind of murders is a series of low key incidents escalating ever more violent until murder happens unless the perpetrators are caught first.
This attack is a stand alone without a build up so it’s highly unusual. Then we have Lawrence himself in a photo normally cropped by the BBC where he is making a provocative & racist black power salute.
It is highly possible that the incident started with Lawrence & Duwayne Brooks name calling or provoking violence themselves and coming off worst.
We will never know, but just to take the word of one man who has a lot to hide and a lot to gain by sticking to his story.
Doowayne’s first words to the police when they got there was “And who called you fucking c*nts”
I understand that Laurence was a low level dealer in the area and that it may have had something to do with turf rivalry.
I don’t want to get into a debate about Stephen Lawrence; I think that far too much has been said already. For that reason, and that reason alone, I have gone along with the version of events that seems to have been officially accepted. I am well aware, however, of alternative theories and the shortcomings in the performance of the only known witness.
The point I am making is that broad generalisations about Whites seem to be acceptable whereas generalisations about Muslims which, it could be argued, are easier to justify, are not.
Midway thru PM tonight, Uncle Eddie moved from events in Paris to the weather forecaster, who’s opening words were “..there are a couple of storms on the horizon….”
Damn right I thought….
I listened closely to the beginning of “PM” on Radio 4 (17:00). A lady read the news briefly, then it was over to Edward Mair for a closer look at the big story from Paris.
The style was interesting, to say the least: there was so much setting of the scene (i.e. recounting events very much anterior to those of today, such as the 2006 controversy and the 2011 fire bomb against ‘Charlie Hebdo’) that I briefly became a little confused about what had actually occurred today, though I largely knew what had happened from the Internet. Imagine someone who’d just returned from work, whose first contact with the story was “PM” … the approach was so tangential that you could have overlooked the murder of twelve people today. This may not have been deliberate but I think Mair should have gone over the basic facts in more detail; the scene-setting got in the way this time.
Muslims had long been taunted by Hebdo.
WE at the BBC,and other nice progressive slime, chose not to publish said cartoons.
Hebdo is in ashes tonight.
We at the BBC therfore show you how Hebdo deserved its fate today.
Unlike the BBC…no IS will ever take a Beeboid any more-they`re too useful out here spreading their slurry.
Mair is a disgrace…does he know that IS don`t care for gays any more than they do scribblers?
The only fitting response is for every newspaper, magazine and media outlet that believes in freedom to print all the cartoons.
Chances of that?
Yes, surely instead of this “We Are all Charlies” bollox that gives the BBC its chance to relive its Lennon/Band Aid/Lady DI shrines to nuffink…the biggest tribute would be for every school child in Europe to get Hebdo sent to their laptops with Mos cartoon right at the front.
Those murdered would then get a proper tribute, their work and histories studied..and their tribulations from 2006 that led to today would be known Europe-wide.
The BBC could run the caroons and animate them all over childrens telly, and we could have live updates on catching these psychos and a 50/50 sweepstake on whethe we should guillotine them head facing up?…or face down?
Oh yes-Islam could be put on the rack and its evil hounded down and paraqauted …free speech , enlightenment and Voltaire!
But you all know what we`ll be getting…don`t give Le Pen or Farage any houseroom by these regrettable twists in the multicoloured seam of Islamic soft towelling…and don`t eat bacon anywhere near a Muslim lest you incite them to butcher you too.
Singalong now…”and no religion too”( Imagine, John Lennon 1971).
Except for Islam-and here`s the BBC doing its damndest to ensure that only Islam triumphs.
The islamophilia is now so ingrained in the BBC it’s instinctive.
R4 PM described how the Paris police were now protecting ‘places of worship’ while later in the programme the Paris Deputy Mayor referred to protecting ‘synagogues and churches’, a significant difference.
British commentators wheeled on regularly referred to the importance of the freedom to criticise ‘religion’, not one mentioned what everyone knows, that it is only the Religion of Peace which murders its critics.
Again ‘Islamic State’ was referred to as ‘self styled’.
Muslim voices critical of the murders were found and aired, with no suggestion that there might also be Muslims who support the murders.
There was bemusement over the precise identity of the attackers, were they AQ or IS etc. Kind of missing the point.
Matt Frei at channel 4 news has just pretty much said Charlie Hebdo had it coming.
FFS
Wonder where the murderers will be hiding out.
Surely not within the islamic community in France, nope definately not.
Let’s just hope they haven’t hopped on a Eurostar to London…
No no no, just like the extensive muslim paedophile networks that flourish successfully over long distances and many years, these people are ‘reviled within their own community’.
the muslim greivance industry make me sick,tell mama that sectarian biased sinnister group are the worst offenders,where is this backlash against muslims,i have heard of no muslims being rounded up beheaded and shot and dumped in mass graves like isis are doing to christians in iraq and syria,i have heard of no mass riots in citys in england with muslim being dragged out of mosques and butchered in the streets like what happens to christians all over the muslim world,there is no backlash against muslims,those who say there is are liars who just like to feed this muslim victimhood narrative that does not exist,tell mama are just a front for radical islam and muslims have it quiet easy living in the west compared to christian living in muslims countrys,thats that even though tolerant people in the uk are fed up with islam and there bigoted followers imposing there ideology in are western countrys.
Well said mate. Your comments are some of the best and most enjoyable on this site. No bullshit, you just tell it how it is mate. Good on yer!
Agree…Stuarts posts are always blunt and from the heart…I appreciate them.
Ahmed Merabet was the poor Police officer shot today by the two Muslim soldiers in Paris. It appears the pair were brothers Said Kouachi, Cherif Kouachi and Hamyd Mourad.
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-01-07/three-paris-terrorists-identified
How is it that every time a Muslim commits an atrocity the authorities know exactly who the perpetrators are within a few hours ?
Got to be honest-this story as it runs live on News 24 is so revealing about the BBC.
Their talking head a few minutes ago tells me that a Tweeter says that he reckons that the deaths of these people in Paris is somehow worth more to him than the offence shown to him by those cartoons of 2006.
The Talking Head said that this was “very strong condemnation”…
unscripted, this will surely be the default postion of a paid live and lying lefty left on his own and babbling along as the news takes him.
Utterly appalling-and some Leicester Mullah called Mogra tells me that we must not use the word Islam to describe these animals of his…because all those similar types who are Jewish or Anglican don`t get THAT stuck on front of their actions.
The BBC empty suit concurs…
The BBC oaf does give Mogadon Mogra a final Labour shuftie though…surely the state could find it in their hearts to give him MORE public money, so he could defuse those hotheads that clearly don`t exist in Islam-only in Canterbury, Rome and Essex.
Oh go to hell BBC…oh, you`re there already…
“Charlie Hebdo terror attack in Paris sees cartoonists around the world unite
with touching art tributes.”
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/charlie-hebdo-terror-attack-paris-4937174
If this is true the Fascist French government have a lot of explaining to do.
“According to this report, Saudi Crown Prince Salman bin Abdulaziz Al Saud delivered the warning of the impending attack against Charlie Hebdo to French Defense Minister Jean-Yves Le Drian this past Sunday, but which Paris authorities failed to act upon.”
http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message2763573/pg1
Muslims attacking a left wing organisation oh the irony! I bet the ‘intelligentsia’ were working overtime yesterday trying to spin it. It does go to show though what a difference French left wing is compared to our crass pathetic lot are
Douglas Murray on the Daily Politics, a lone voice of reason, “…this has everything to do with Islam…”
.. and French foreign policy and press freedom.
But there are Muslims now so incensed that they have murdered people for wearing shorts, smoking, and selling and buying pets.
# Je suis Charlie.
As long as your name lives, so will freedom of speech. God bless