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Compare the following….
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/kenya/11513626/Kenya-attack-147-dead-as-Islamist-gunmen-target-Christian-students.html
… with the BBC report:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-32169080
‘Militants’?
Forget about all those ”so called” British people heading out to Syria to join terrorist groups, they are heading down to the western parts of Britain for ‘bonding’ and ‘training’. What does our local councilor have to say on this ? “People will have to keep their eyes and ears peeled for suspicious incidents and report these to the police. But there’s not a lot we can do.”
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-mid-wales-32156097
While INBBC now relegates the Islamofascist massacre of about 150 Christian students in Kenya,
‘Daily Mail’ has:-
“Persecuted Christians.
“In Kenya, there were scenes of terrible bloodshed yesterday as Al Shabab gunmen burst into a university, massacring as many as 150.
The terrorists separated the students by their religion and, according to witnesses, ‘anybody who was Christian was shot on the spot’.
From Libya and Egypt to the West Bank and Nigeria, Christians are being mercilessly hounded and butchered for their faith by Islamist fanatics.
“At home, there is much hand-wringing from the Church of England about food banks, women bishops and gay rights (and, oh, expressing sorrow for the Dresden bombing, accusing Enoch Powell of child abuse and arguing Church schools should be open to all faiths.)
“Is it too much to hope that, in this holiest of weeks, our Church leaders might instead speak up for the appalling plight of those Christians suffering real persecution elsewhere in the world?”
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-3024006/DAILY-MAIL-COMMENT-Winner-award-hypocrisy-Red-Ed.html#ixzz3WEWnO9mY
Church leaders speak up for Christians? No. They won’t because they can’t; they in thrall to satan and he’s not about to let them go. When it comes, the wrath of God will be terrible and the fate of these followers of the Antichrist will be all that they deserve. If they still have any free will left they should re-read the Bible and return to the path of righteousness. But I suspect they haven’t and they won’t. For all who deny Jesus is the son of God and therefore is God, well you can’t say you weren’t told.
“A massacre of Christians to ponder at Easter.
“Yet again, the mainstream media is playing down the massacre of Christians in the Islamic world. The slaughter of 147 in Kenya is portrayed as an isolated incident. But it isn’t. It’s par for the course and it could be the shape of things to come for all of us. Ponder that this Easter.”
By Raymond Ibrahim.
http://www.thecommentator.com/article/5732/a_massacre_of_christians_to_ponder_at_easter
The Woolwich Butcher tried to join Al Shabab, he was sent back to Britain and the rest is history.
Now why does the BBC want these people who want to join ISIS sent back to Britain.
The silence of the so-called leaders of the Christian West while Muslim butchery of Christians escalates worldwide is an unspeakable moral travesty.
The BBC, with its worldwide reach and influence, could make a real difference here by reporting honestly on this Islamic brutality based solely on the religion of the victims. Unfortunately, too many BBC ‘journalists’ have become dhimmies, bowing to Islam. And so atrocities committed by Muslims must be ignored, and when it’s not possible to ignore them they must be minimised.
INBBC’s ‘New York Women’-
“New York Women”
By Pamela Geller.
http://pamelageller.com/2015/04/new-york-women.html/
No reference to Muslims here, in INBBC’s obfuscating ‘report’:-
“New York women inspired by IS plotted bombing, FBI says”
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-32169141
It’s not all bad news for David Cameron, at least the latest figures for net migration with Syria are heading in the direction he promised.
But our cops are doing everything in their power to bring them back.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-32165337
Her Majesty’s Britannic Death Watch Alert:
“Father of teenage jihadist arrested in Turkey works in Ministry of Defence post office and has access to personal details of all British military personnel”
R Spencer
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3021090/Father-teenage-jihadist-arrested-Turkey-works-Ministry-Defence-post-office-access-personal-details-British-military-personnel.html
An earlier post mentioned a Labour Councillor and his runaway Jihadi son, of course bigged up by Tory press.
There is one Islamic political side … ISLAM
Whether Camoron lying again and again on Islam, courting Warsi, or indeed Afzal Amin,
or a whether its a Labour councillor with a jihadi runaway son
there is one Political vent … Islam … everything else, everyone else are simply there to be used to gain power for it.
This is always the case, no exceptions, they are dangerous because they have a political ideology, a totalitarian one, are indoctrinated into it, its all about insidiously weaseling to attain the power by force, political or violent
Yes, the Islamic Trojan Horse.
Given the permissive, ‘multicultural,’ pro-Islam mentality and policies of Britain’s political class (inc INBBC), it is inevitable that Islamic jihadists will infiltrate key areas of U.K national security.
Interesting polling result that is seeing ‘I’m on a different planet’ Clegg trailing Labour in his Sheffield Hallam constituency.
I have no doubt that Clegg should he lose will be quick to blame his coalition partners, but personally I find Cleggs ideas so alien unattractive, and irrelevant to anyone outside the London leftie bubble that I’m not surprised he’s going to find re-election.
The big question is of course whether the BBC and other broadcasters should be giving the Fib Dems equal airtime to what they had last election now they are a minor party whose leader looks like loosing his seat !
Just reading some analysis from last night’s Leader’s debate.
The BBC’s assistant political editor Norman Smith gives his opinion to BBC Radio 4’s Today. And, naturally, he manages to get the knives out for Farage, despite the latter’s strong showing in all post debate polls.
“Mr Farage seemed to be appealing again and again and again to his base, this is not a (UKIP) campaign that is reaching out”.
Mr Farage risked controversy by highlighting the number of foreign nationals with HIV whom he said were treated by the NHS, saying: “We have to look after our own people first.”
Imagine that eh? Wanting look after your own people first? I mean the Aussies do it. The Yanks. French, Italians, Germans etc etc.
But get a UK (soon to be) MP expressing such sentiments and he’s risking controversy.
Can’t have been that controversial mind – latest ComRes poll has UKIP on 22%.
Unlucky Beeb
http://order-order.com/2015/04/03/nigel-farage-is-right-about-health-tourism/#_@/twtsFx1rdO0KTg
Nigel has his facts right.
Farage pulled his punches on non-British HIV treatment, in order not to fall at the first fence to cries of “racism”. My better half has worked with London HIV services patients, and the word is “Africans” not “not our own people”.
Clinic attendance lists are riddled with African names, not West Indians or British, but Africans. Kings HIV service would be empty but for the influx of “those infected abroad” as the Public Health euphemistically classify them in official statistics.
Get used to it. If you say “Africans” the pasty white middleclass lefties start tweeting “UKIP Racist Racist!” For telling the truth.
£15,000 of drug treatment for anyone showing up. The gays got wise to the risk of Aids, they are no longer significant, the needle sharers could not care less, Its the flights in from Africa that bring in each week’s list of new patients.
Same goes with the maternity wards at Barts “Lagos Express”. We are being “Afri-caned” and no-one dares say it, how the Left have destroyed the ability to speak truth to power.
I heard the BBC T May car crash interview last night after the so called debate, and then M Gove spluttering around this morning …
Camoron evading questions last night, then hilariously lying, reciting his doctored Tory figures again, the erm … “long term plan” again, in his orchestrated Tory broadcast ending to that debacle.
Well … the old debate dodger, he thinks he s got away with it.
Now just keep smearing, fabricating figures, character assassination
lying about their plan, orchestrating the press.
He ought to be empty chaired, and forced into another head to head … though I fear not.
I heard the Today interview this morning – Steven Woolfe from UKIP versus Naughtie. Now I am not a UKIP voter but whenever Woolfe tried to speak Naughtie butted in but unlike his usual self he had short clipped interuptions just long enough to stop Woolfe speaking then allowing Woolfe half a dozen words before butting in again. So an interview, as usual where the interviewed was allowed to say nothing, but a new technique for Naughtie who usually fills the interview with questions longer than the answers. But the venom in his voice was there for all to hear.
Exactly the same method employed by the awful Husain woman yesterday, with Nigel Farage.
They’ve clearly rehearsed this method, and now use it as a standard device – constantly interrupt, throw the interviewee of the course whilst answering one question, with a quick-fire follow up, so that the listener never really hears a full answer, to anything.
The BBC really are the pits, aren’t they? Blatant bias, with no-one interested in pulling the rug from beneath their nasty, lefty feet.
Yes, your description of Naughtie’s interview is exactly correct. The venom was extraordinary, as were the constant interruptions. He has done this sort of thing before to UKIP spokesmen. What a contrast when Naughtie interviewed Paddy Ashdown later in the programme. A warm voice, no interruptions, no difficult questions, no picking up false statements. Surely Naughtie’s political bias shortly before an important election is something for Ofcom to act upon swiftly …… no chance!
Your description of Naughtie’s interview is exactly correct. The venom was extraordinary, as were the constant interruptions. He has done this sort of thing before to UKIP spokesmen. What a contrast when Naughtie interviewed Paddy Ashdown later in the programme. A warm voice, no interruptions, no difficult questions, no picking up false statements. Surely Naughtie’s political bias shortly before an important election is something for Ofcom to act upon swiftly …… no chance!
If i may make a suggestion to future UKIP persons interviewed by Nasty or the elderly, past it Humps……when they ask you a question, and you start answering, as soon as they interrupt, stop talking and be quiet….when they ask you again to say something, say that if you do,” 7-8 words in, you will only ask me another question or interrupt in some way, therefore, please, let me speak without butting in and you may get an answer. But if you continue to interrupt, i will get up and leave, your rudeness is inexcusable, i am wasting my time.” That may get considerable support from most listeners.
Camoron, Gromit and Clegg all looked shifty.
Some are noting that again the BBC and its lead talent have mustered all the editorial integrity and professional skill they can, and again decided what is news and what is ‘not news’ (c) A. Newsroom Tealady.
Clearly the ability of a few preening gobs to impress twitter outweighs genocidal massacre on par with an airborne murder-suicide.
And then there’s…
http://bbcwatch.org/2015/04/03/comparing-bbc-coverage-of-civilian-casualties-in-yemen-and-gaza/
‘As readers no doubt recall, within twenty-four hours of the commencement of Operation Protective Edge in July 2014, the BBC had begun promoting the theme of ‘Israeli war crimes’.
Plus ongoing beard-on-beard atrocity in Syria. Clearly Apple will hold off selling there too until the diversity standards are met, if their CEO has any say in the mixed messaging. Mind you, they seem cooler on Saudi than certain US states, so who knows?
Evidently the Betty and Barney Rubbles of the BBC ME desk a bit drained by previous over-emoting and decided to give this PR guided tour a pass, with Jezza’s blessing? Maybe a local ringer can phone something in?
And JonDon can be persuaded to… no.. Tony Abbott still needs his undivided attention.
so which one of the Barclay brothers are you and how much cash are you hoping to make when you split the BBC franchise with Murdoch?
Really reinforces the saying you can fool all of the people all of the time.
Yes, and look at the price of kumquats!
Gary Lineker on Twitter
” Always reluctant to offer a political view ” ( that’s not going to stop you now is it ? so let’s hear it Gary mate) ” but Farage is a dick.”
“but Farage is a dick”
That’s a political view?
Sparkling wit. If Churchill were still around (if only …..), he’d be kicking himself.
Well, he is a footballer after all, if you’ve got more than 2 brain cells and can string a sentence together you’re considered Einstein.
As a bBC employee had he said the same about almost anyone other than Farage they’d being doing a Clarkson on him.
Wot, yet another left wing tweet from a BBC employee?
No right wing ones come to light yet, Dez and co.?
I suppose if Jeremy Clarkson had tweeted that Milliband looked like a dick, Danny Cohen would have been fine with it, or would it have been another excuse to sack him?
Political music to the ears of pro-E.U, BBC-NUJ-
“Now the EU wants to raise Britain’s foreign aid spending by £1 BILLION amid defence fears.
“Spending on foreign aid is to surge by £1 billion under ‘absurd’ new rules introduced by the European Union amid fears not enough is being spent on defence.”
By SCOTT CAMPBELL.
http://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/568117/foreign-aid-European-Union-EU-Britain-government-DFID-politics
I think we can square this circle.
1) We have to spend more money on foreign aid.
2) The NHS “needs” more money than we can afford to give it.
3) The NHS is treating more and more foreigners who haven’t contributed to the welfare system, but it can’t come up with a mechanism to charge them.
4) My simple solution is for the NHS to record the treatment of those without an NHS number and the Department of Health can bill the foreign aid budget.
5) The foreign aid budget goes up to whatever number the “wankerati” (h/t JD) want it to be, but UK public services get the benefit.
#4 Simple and brilliant.
I love this: “Local government worker” already retired at 61, wants to cash in his £94,000 pension.
But – get this – he already has an income of £31,000. Where do all these poor impoverished public sector workers get all their money from?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-32162074
61 is quite late, in my experience, I have met a local government worker who was retired at 54 and recently I met a nurse who retired at 50.
Plod and firemen often retire under 50 – often on ‘medical grounds’ that miraculously seem to disappear as soon as they start touring the globe.
Well, every public sector worker is aware there actually is a real money tree……it is watered and nourished by the private sector workers, a lot of them earning a great deal less for a greater number of hours……
The situation of the Local Authority employees is a disaster waiting to happen…..in that ,their pension pots are regarded as ‘fully funded’ ,so ,in theory , they should be able to cash in their pension funds.
However , it is a matter of public record that their pension pots have only been funded by actual employees contributions to the extent of some 30% ,the balance being funded by the blank cheque of residential council tax and business ratepayers.
It seems to me quite wrong that , in these circumstances, they should even be considered to be eligible for cashing in ‘their’ funds.
How long will it be before Liebore suggest that ALL public sector workers be eligible to cash in ‘their’ pension pots (which have all been massively cross-subsidised by the hapless private sector/rest
of the working population)?
Considering that capitalising so-called ‘unfunded pension liabilities’ of the Public Sector would bankrupt the country in one go , my guess would be that Liebore would throw the whole concept out of the window and make it impossible for everybody (including entitled private sector retirees) to access their funds in one go.
Since when does a traitor become re branded as ‘whistle-blower’?
Britain spied on Argentina!
So what’s wrong with that, or what’s more, what’s their slant on this ?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-32172669
Heard on the radio this morning that there are now verified oil finds off the coast of the Falkland Islands.
Now that’s really gonna put a rocket up Ms Cristina Fernández de Kirchner’s fundamental orifice !
It didn’t take a lot of adding up that geological survey ships had done their business down there prior to the Falklands war, it wasn’t just about sheep. Its our territorial water anyway, so none of Argentina’s business.
The probability of oil around the Falklands has been known about for many years-this is no surprise.I’m sure the Argies were aware of it as well.
They are interchangeable terms depending on whose side you are on. Given people like you obviously know your place I wouldn’t worry!
So man on the clapped out bus, who’s side are you on, and more importantly, on which side is Al Beeb on ?
He’s on the side of the Malvinas, of course! Or is it the Maldives? Over to you, Obama!
You have to laugh, or otherwise despair, why the great British public can even consider putting Miliband on a par with Cameron after the debate last night. Miliband should be miles behind in my view:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2015-32172098
Are the great British people starved of real facts to make logical conclusions?
Is there some sort of Soviet misinformation campaign indoctrinating us without us realising it?
Has our education system become so left wing influencing over the last couple of generations?
Could it be our state broadcaster contributing greatly to such a trusted influence?
Last night the polls never indicated that it was Labour regulation that controlled London, the premier world financial centre that facilitated the largest recession, deficit and debt this country has suffered and aided and abetted so many other International banks/nations to become infected.
Or it was Labour that pushed through UKs largest Muslim radicalising programme ever through the Iraq and Afghan ill conceived adventures that have affected literally millions who are either killed, maimed or displaced now seeking new homes and revenge through ISIS atrocities?
Or it was Labour that deliberately opened the door to literally millions of immigrants that have left our Nation reeling attempting to cope with the infrastructure and social cohesion consequences, not to mention wage depression, chronic housing shortage, clogged school and NHS facilities or letting in over a million more Muslims, a small proportion of which want to destroy us!
Do people not blaming the Coalition not realise a migrant can move here in months but to train a doctor, build schools, houses etc takes many years?
Or it was Labour that made benefits so conveniently the lifestyle choice of so many millions.
I could go on for hours, but decided I need my sanity so found some comedy to take away the stress:
see part 2:
“on a par? … with Cameron” 😀
never mind the vids… that is comedy
Mr Lineker, always reluctant to get personal but I think you’re a ***t !!
Al Beeb reporting on the ‘lack of school places in England’ and that there will be more children than places by 2016.
This time ‘its England’s burgeoning birth rate’. Well, they can’t blame this on the ‘aging’ population can they ?
Elephant in the Room comes to my mind.
How can the Left claim immigrants bring a net benefit to the UK when they’re not even paying for – amongst other things – the extra school places their offspring need?
Nothing to do with left.its a simple calculation.
Not even the issue either really. It’s how many people you want in the country and what is the natural limit.
That’s the question Milliband wouldn’t be drawn on.
Do you know the answer btw?
That’s the question Milliband wouldn’t be drawn on.
Do you know the answer btw?
That was a surreal scene. Paxo asked him, incredulous, would he accept a population of 70 million. Odd that Paxo was so badly informed. Food consumption shows that we’re well over 70 million already. It will be a bit of a crush in a hundred years:
UK population could hit 132 million, warn official figures
Id need to see some figures but it strikes me that a census rather than food consumption is a better measure. What happens if people eat more?By your reckoning the population goes up!
The question is what is the natural level of the population? Anyone know?
… it strikes me that a census rather than food consumption is a better measure.
Even more naïve than I thought, then. So folk spend their life savings, swim the Med, spend the winter in a cardboard box in Calais and dodge traffic to cling under a lorry crossing the channel. First census comes along, they register themselves. Likely.
The answer to what? The natural limit? Irrelevant, as we’ve already passed it.
And forgive me for repeating it, but it is the Left who keep telling us immigrants bring a net benefit.
So a question for you: do you know why they’ve failed to pay for the additional services and infrastructure their numbers have demanded? Last time I looked, they weren’t even paying for their own interpreters.
Repeat for Man on an immobile bus – ‘lack of school places in England’ plus hospital, doctors , houses etc etc ….
So , how many people do you want in the country ?
For years the bBC have gone out their way in which to rebadge Islamic terrorism as somehow the reactions of the most persecuted peoples on the Planet. Which is why their drip,drip, dripping propaganda when it comes to Israel (and it’s so called imperial ambitions) has paid such wonderful dividends such as the growth of Anti-Semitism in the UK.
Well it appears the bBC has decided that there should be a sustained focus on another bunch of people who can only be victims of lets say Imperial Ambitions. Yes people welcome to the latest episode of Vison On where you are shown how to disguise the fact that Argentina launched an invasion of the Falklands in which to distract the local populace from the economic, political mismanagement of the country
Argentina threatens to prosecute oil companies in the Falklands
Argentine foreign ministry officials say they will prosecute oil companies operating near the Falkand Islands known as Las Malvinas in South America. The officials said companies active there were operating illegally in Argentine territory. The announcement came as Argentina marked the 33rd anniversary of the war with the UK over the islands.
Note how the bBC instantly goes on the attack by painting Argentina as the victim, notice how they blur the lines by saying that Argentina is celebrating the 33rd anniversary of the war with the UK over the Islands. War what war, the 2nd of April is when Argentine forces took the Islands by force by sending an armada which on the morning of the 2nd April 1982 staged an all out attack on Moody Brook Barracks hoping to wipe out the Marine Detachment whilst asleep. Problem here was, the bootnecks were dug in around Stanley. But strangely enough war was never declared.
Then there is the new bBC guide to the Islands found at the bottom of every article they knock out regards the Falkland’s in which to brainwash those none the wiser that the UK is at fault: I quote:
Guide to the islands:
The Falkland Islands are an isolated and sparsely populated British overseas territory in the south-west Atlantic Ocean
Sparsely populated meaning, “it will be no loss if we handed them over”, which is kind of made moot by pointing out it is isolated (Meaning in the middle of bloody nowhere)
They remain the subject of a sovereignty dispute between Britain and Argentina, who waged a brief but bitter war over the territory in 1982
Bitter, the UK taskforce treated the Argentine prisoners a lot better than how the Argentine treated there’s. At field dressing stations (Ajax bay for example) the only distinction of who got treated by the medics was how badly you were injured. In the Uk, Argentine football players continued to play football. If there was bitterness it came from one direction…you know from that so called News agency which informed Argentina that 2 Para were advancing on Goose Green from San Carlos. That the fuses on Argentine bombs weren’t set correctly
Argentine forces landed on the Falklands on 2 April 1982 to stake a territorial claim, but by 14 June they had been ejected by a British military task force
Note how the bBC states that Argentine forces landed on the 2nd of April, Not invaded, not came ashore guns blazing, not occupied, but landed. Very subtle , devious and really biased. However those peaceful argentines who it appears just wanted to talk, were thrown off by a bunch of racist, bigoted intolerant right wing Jackbooted British forces. (The last is how the left, portray the British armed forces)
The fighting cost the lives of 655 Argentine and 255 British servicemen
Fighting bBC?, I thought it was a war?
Argentina says it has a right to the islands, which it calls the Malvinas, because it inherited them from the Spanish crown in the early 1800s
Everybody according to the bBC has a right to something except the…British.
It has also based its claim on the islands’ proximity to the South American mainland
What the bBC doesn’t tell you is that the Falkland’s are over 300 miles from South America so lets have a look at what the UN (Whom Argentina and the bBC love) has to say on the matter:
United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea
Exclusive economic zones (EEZs)
These extend from the edge of the territorial sea out to 200 nautical miles (370 kilometres; 230 miles) from the baseline. Within this area, the coastal nation has sole exploitation rights over all natural resources. In casual use, the term may include the territorial sea and even the continental shelf. The EEZs were introduced to halt the increasingly heated clashes over fishing rights, although oil was also becoming important. The success of an offshore oil platform in the Gulf of Mexico in 1947 was soon repeated elsewhere in the world, and by 1970 it was technically feasible to operate in waters 4000 metres deep. Foreign nations have the freedom of navigation and overflight, subject to the regulation of the coastal states. Foreign states may also lay submarine pipes and cables.
200 mIles bBC, no part of the Islands are within 200 miles of Argentina. But hey why the heck should we stick to the law of the UN where there’s the chance to berate the British.
The bbC, the traitors within our midst, paid for by the people they hate and despise the most
And the bBC pro Argentine bandwagon continues:
UK ‘spied on Argentina’ over Falklands, claims Edward Snowden
Documents released by the American whistle-blower Edward Snowden claim that Britain spied for several years on the Argentine government. According to reports in the Argentine media, Britain was concerned that Argentina could launch another attempt to reclaim the Falkland Islands.
Wow, this is news?
The BBC’s South America correspondent Wyre Davies says there has not been any formal response yet from either the British or Argentine government to the allegations, which have been published by a number of Argentine news agencies. The claims are that Britain began a large scale operation which may have involved implanting computer viruses, circulating false propaganda and collecting intelligence with the aim of diminishing or discrediting the Argentine government, our correspondent added.
So the bBC’s ace South Americans reporter claims that the British have been attacking Argentine computers with viruses, fake propaganda and collecting intelligence in which to discredit the Argentine government.
Anybody here, hear anything of Argentina getting hit by computer viruses, whilst I have heard of the UK,US, Lebanon ,Israel and Iran getting hit by viruses , I haven’t heard anything regards latin America as for fake propaganda what you mean such as:
Corruption in Argentina
The mother of all scandals?
Cronyism and Corruption Are Killing Economic Freedom in Argentina
Funny enough, the bBC doesn’t even mention this propaganda story which transpired the other day in Argentina:
Argentina Hit by Labour Strike
BUENOS AIRES—Union members went on strike across Argentina, shutting down banks, ports and public transportation to demand lower income taxes. The strike, which is the fourth big labour shutdown President Cristina Kirchner’s administration has faced , adds an element of social conflict to Argentine politics as the country prepares for a presidential election in October.
An election in October, Gee I wonder why Cristina Kirchner has been playing the patriotic nationalist card these past few months. (Note I understand she can’t stand for re-election but her party can)
The bBC, the provider of any news which berates the British
“Britain spied for several years on the Argentine government.”
I should bloody well hope so, too!
Sorry clicked Report comment instead of reply. Meant to say ‘Great comment as always Pounce’.
none of the staments that are attributed to the BBC are untrue. 300 miles is naf all out that way.
Maybe not, but it’s the true statements they choose to omit which make it none-too-difficult to determine BBC ‘narrative’.
For years the bBC have gone out their way in which to rebadge Islamic terrorism as somehow the reactions of the most persecuted peoples on the Planet. Which is why their drip,drip, dripping propaganda when it comes to Israel (and it’s so called imperial ambitions) has paid such wonderful dividends such as the growth of Anti-Semitism in the UK.
You have been in a coma for the last decade obviously. Someone should tell whats happend and get you up to speed.
As to the backlash er those left wingers in M15 told Tony what to expect and they werent wrong were they.
So why do the BBC never mention the 3 all-out wars waged on Israel by the Arab nations?
And why do they never mention the failure of those nations and the ‘Palestinians’ to accept a two-state solution when it was on a plate for them?
And why do they never mention the cynical tactics of Hamas in siting their command centres in hospitals and their weapons near schools?
If all these are news to you, you must have been brainwashed by your beloved BBC.
bBC trying hard to make Farage look bad because he brought up the HIV AIDS immigrants to this country. This has only backfired on them; as it questions whether they should be let in the first place. Not to mention the numbers abound 6000 and the yearly cost of the drugs.
And, surprisingly, not all comments in the Guardian are against Farage on this.
As mentioned earlier, are his critics saying that he got his facts wrong, or are they saying that we are not allowed to know about this or have a discussion about it?
More of the sinister “you can’t say that” attitude.
Casting around this morning for someone they could pretend was an ‘impartial’ analyst of the UK political scene, the BBC’s R4 WATO settled on one Jeremy Cliiffe, of the Economist.
Unfortunately for the BBC (and Cliffe) this hard-Left loonie was outed by Guido this week, who revealed that Cliffe’s degree was in the Marxist ‘literature’ of Spain and Germany. Following graduation he ‘worked’ in Brussels for the Party Of European Socialists, then went to ‘work’ for Chukka Umunna and later for David Miliband, before landing his latest ‘job’ with the Socialist Worker. Sorry, I mean, ‘The Economist’.
Pretty impartial, eh? And what an impressive career path, spent learning first hand how the world really works! Gosh!
With that CV, it’s just amazing the BBC have never recruited him.
But give it time…
Not reported by the BBC is Cameron’s sanitised Christian message for Easter. A man for all Faiths, but not as enthusiastic as his message for Ramadan which the BBC did report. I checked a Christian source for their reaction.
http://www.catholicherald.co.uk/commentandblogs/2015/04/01/david-camerons-bizarre-easter-message-shows-how-scared-he-is-of-proclaiming-his-christianity/
Now see his enthusiasm for Ramadan
He “thinks of the soup kitchens, the homeless shelters, how churches become refuge”, and erm … “church congregations raising funds” … UH OH! … that was 2014.
2015
“The principle around which the Easter celebration is built.
Easter is all about remembering the importance of change, responsibility and (pass the Tory sick-bag folks)
erm … doing the right thing.
David Cameron’s curiously sanitised Christianity
http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/coffeehouse/2015/04/david-camerons-curiously-sanitised-christianity/
”Easter is all about remembering the importance of change, responsibility and (pass the Tory sick-bag folks)erm … doing the right thing.”
Thought it was about Christ dying on the Cross for our sins ? in a previous and wiser time he would have burned at the stake for being blasphemous and a heretic.
Oh look! … not the BBC News
Kenya:
Laughing Muslims taunted Christians as they massacred them, “This will be a good Easter holiday for us”
http://news.yahoo.com/laughing-somali-gunmen-taunted-victims-university-massacre-102630264.html
“We have come to be kill and be killed,” the Muslims screamed out as they shot the Christians. Where did they get the idea to scream out something like that?
“They fight in the cause of Allah, so they kill and are killed.” Quran – (9:111)
Not that this has anything to do with Islam!”
R Spencer
So what is the point.Religious people are nutters? I think we understand that one.
Can you point to another religion which is waging war right across the planet, not just against ‘non-believers’ but also against itself? What century do you think it is?
There really is something astonishingly unnatural and deeply unpleasant in the politically correct attitude to race and culture. During yesterday’s debate Nigel pointed out that people were travelling from Sub Saharan Africa, riddled with HIV or full blown AIDS, popping up in a national health hospital and receiving treatment. It costs a fortune. Now this is wonderful, I’m sure, but what about our own sick and vulnerable people? We have folk who can’t get drugs for cancer treatment because they are deemed too expensive. These are our own people who have paid into a system for their entire working lives and they are then rejected by the system they have financially supported. Yesterday’s audience actually applauded the daft Welsh woman when she started wittering about “compassion and kindness.” Sounds lovely, doesn’t it? Are we supposed to consider third world lives are more precious than British lives? That’s what it seems like to me. This liberal attitude to all things British is severely skewed and terribly depressing. It’s cultural self loathing taken to new depths and it’s completely unnatural.
It feels really creepy to me.
And why stop at HIV? According to reports some ISIS militants (heroes to some here in the UK) are suffering from a kind of flesh eating disease. Bring ’em in for NHS treatment, and don’t forget to give maximum publicity to ‘British’ doctors and nurses who become infected when treating them in Syria.
http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/567597/Islamic-State-Raqqa-Syria-Flesh-eating-disease
So whats the answer?
Manon. What is the answer? A couple of years ago I supervised research on inexpensive drugs that would treat HIV positive women in West Africa. No need for them to come here for treatment. All we have to do is have a cosy chat with the politicians there, persuade them to regard therapy for their people as being more beneficial than pocketing every penny of aid.
Well you wont get very far if the aid budget is cut will you?
You could argue that we’re borrowing money for the aid budget and so loading our young people with yet more future debt. That won’t get our future generations very far, will it?
Alternatively we (that is, the world in general) can stop wasting squillions fighting some mythical existential threat from the climate and channel it into something infinitely more useful.
3.4.15
The Wonderful World of BBC Bias and moral relativism.
Subtle bias can bypass many. Subliminal. Only when juxtaposed to an analogous event can the blatant bias be seen for what it is.
(a) The BBC News is leaving no stone unturned in an attempt to understand the psychological state and motivations of the perpetrator of the mass murder of circa 150 human beings.
(b) The BBC News is making a full attempt to hide from the public and avoid attempting to understand the psychological state and motivations of the perpetrators of the mass murder of circa 150 human beings.
Approximately ten percent of humans are capable of free thought. That leaves the ninety percent who are the potential brownshirts and SS officers of the future. Now those who are aware of the septic disease that is the propagandist Common Purpose within BBC Groupthink, understand what is going on.
(a) The murder of passengers on a passenger aircraft in France.
(b) The murder of humans at a university campus in Kenya (non-Muslims) by members of a death cult (which our government still categorises as a religion) known as Islam.
Any chance the BBC will look at facts; understand the psychological state and motivation of Islamofascists? No. That will be left to others.
Scrap the BBC. Scrap the Telly tax. Place all BBC Common Purpose propagandists and their thuggish brownshirt groups (SWP, UAF, Hopenothate, MCB) on a watch list. They are on mine.
Angry and getting angrier every day.
Vote sensibly.
The murdered aircraft passengers were white while the murdered students were black. The BBC is devoting much more time to the story of the white victims.
Is the BBC racist?
Yes. Blacks in Africa aren’t important to the BBC. HIV sufferers in Africa aren’t important either, but apparently the tiny tiny handful who reach the UK are. It’s race and location bias combined.
When did the BBC follow up the Pakistani school attack? While the BBC couldn’t get enough of the girl who survived a Taliban attack. The BBC doesn’t ‘care’, it just has an agenda to pursue.
Sorry, but I disagree. The BBC are devoting time to the story and background of the murderer, not the victims in the plane whose varieties of skin colour I am unaware of. Ask yourself: which person who died on a french mountainside do you know most about? Do you know anything about any of the dead people in Kenya?
With the BBC it’s not so much to do with the victims but the perpetrators. If the co-pilot who crashed the plane had been a Muslim they would have wasted a lot less time on him.
They aren’t bothered about the Kenyan students because their murderers were killing them for Allah. If it had been just one Kenyan Muslim killed by a Christian Fundamentalist their reaction would have been completely different.
It’s the same reason why they spend so much energy condemning Israel for any perceived excess while largely ignoring the tens (or even hundreds) of thousands of innocents murdered by various Islamist gangs around the world.
You are forgiven for this pile of drivel because you are Angry and as everyone knows angry people are irrational.
In fact when it comes to brown shirts I think you will find yourself on that side of the political spectrum. When it comes to the murders then you are racially discriminatory .As to the air crash that has literally been done to death. If the pilot was dragged to court ,had he survived of course, he would not have been convicted of murder anyway because from the evidence he was evidently mentally ill. Your failure to discriminate not even fine distinctions leads me to believe that either you’re not very intelligent or you are stinking rich and don’t give a crap about most decent people in this country.
In all probability you have a residence and bank account offshore like the masters you serve!
MOCO (saturday shift) You carry on serving your masters (do they pay you more than minimum wage?) and doing your brownshirt duties. Your god complex is exposed – you think it is for you to forgive me? For wronging who? By doing what? I answer to no man. And now you suggest that I am racially discriminatory. Oh how I laugh at the limitations of your brain cell.
WAYCISTT!!! Very grown up. Very clever.
I will reflect on the pain and agony of the victims of these crimes. You can continue psychoanalysing murderers (but not islamic ones of course) and, as ever, ignore those who suffer. That is your job as the amoral brownshirt fascist footsoldier that you are.
Manwithhisheadinthesand. Fascist far left. Islamofascist sympathiser.
Which only makes my point for me.
Might be a idea to reach for a book of terms. You clearly have no idea of the terms you are using or indeed the value of thinking in order to come out with your inane clap trap.
The fact is the BBC doesnt talk about lots of issues in common with the gutter press. Heard the latest on drone strikes for example.
What distinguishes the plane crash was it was European and relatively local. Kenya is not local. What the above commentaries highlight is a vicarious interest in reinforcing your own prejudices rather than about anyone getting killed. Millions of black and brown people are dying in their droves. Do you care ?No. You only care if they have HIV and have a remote chance of coming to the UK. If that isnt the case maybe tell me why you vote UKIP and want to cut the foreign aid budget.
You want to know their names mate! Seriously!
The fact is the BBC talks about loads of issues but chooses to withhold facts that might interfere with its on-going narrative.
There have been scores of examples posted on this website coinciding, amazingly, with your absence or, in the case of global warming, disappearance when the going gets tough.
david dimbleby always states that it is first come first served when he announces the next question time application for members of the public to apply to be part of the audience,well judging by last nights question time the socalist workers party must of snapped up all of them tickets,the hate and anger and shouting shown by the audience last night everytime the word ukip was mentioned was sickening,it was a total student bbc left biased audience last night and they even had some clown from that no borders far left group screaming we should have no border control at all,why was there no ukip spokeman last night on question time,why was there no ukip supporters in the audiience,it was totally left wing biased,one thing i learnt from question time last night is this,all members from the 3 so called mainstream political partys made it clear that they have no plans to control immigration and it will be an open door policy of mass immigration whoever gets into power in may,nigel farage has been proved right again.
On FaceBook just now, a masterpiece of one degree of separation….. ‘news’:
BBC News shared BBC Shorts’s video.
58 mins · Edited ·
David Cameron is heckled during #GE2015 #LeadersDebate
Continuing election coverage: http://bbc.in/1EP4q3r
‘Edited’? I’ll bet it was ‘editted’.
But it’s OK as a) it’s clearly ‘news’ and b) ‘news’ the BBc can’t get enough of.
So next time you need to have a win-win profile dig at your opponents, get an activist in the audience and the BBC will oblige with full coverage.
I wonder if this would be the case for leaders or parties more in keeping with the BBC survival instinct?
In other ‘news’, meeting those high integrity editorial calls on what precious space gets alloted to (sorry wrong kind of faith in Africa; sorry woemn & kids in Yemen) there is, also, this…
BBC News
It’s a serious question.
Poldark: Could Aidan Turner spark a surge in scything?
When Poldark actor Aidan Turner took off his shirt and picked up his scythe social media buzzed, but serious scythers say all that sweating is unnecessary.
BBC.IN
It’s a serious question. Apparently. The BBC says so.
Just reminiscing, but when I was a kid, our next door neighbour was a ‘roadman’, a great guy, doing the sort of job that most men these days would never even contemplate doing. During the summer months, he would be found walking miles with his scythe, cutting the grass verges at the sides of the road with great skill and pride in his work, his dog trailing him a few paces back (smart, or what ?) Jeez, was that scythe kept sharp – I am convinced he could have carried out an appendectomy on me and I probably wouldn’t have noticed until I keeled over.
Sorry, carry on.
Off topic, suspect character Richard Branson has been babbling on about Global Warming and governments should do more.
Frankie Boyle in response wrote on Twitter ” You own an airline, you mad c**t !! ”
Succinct and to the point.
That couldn’t be the Frankie Boyle the BBC has forgiven for past excesses and is handing the comedic countdown to our next government to?
That Frankie Boyle?
It couldn’t be him.
Could it?
If it is, a lucky man is he never to have been caught muttering in private the odd dubious word that lurking Beeboids can propel to Danny Cohen before one can say ‘rampant hypocritical Queen of Spades-hunting NaughtieMarrs’.
No…. much better to just slope off and get it said out there in public on twitter, not stupidly at all.
Boyle got one thing right, at least. Branson isn’t mad.
Rochdale, Labour Party, Islamic State.
Two reports of same story:-
1.) ‘Daily Mail’-
“Rochdale Labour councillor’s home raided by anti-terror police after his 21-year-old son was arrested on Syrian border with his aunt, cousins and four children.
“Police search home of Labour councillor after son’s arrest on Syrian border.
“Anti-terror officers raided Shakil Ahmed’s house last night and again today.
“Son Waheed, 21, was detained alongside 8 relatives – including 4 children.
“Mr Ahmed, a councillor since 2012, was recently pictured with Ed Miliband.”
By CHRIS GREENWOOD and DAVID WILLIAMS and NAZIA PARVEEN FOR THE DAILY MAIL,
and JOHN HALL and STEPH COCKROFT and OLLIE GILLMAN FOR MAILONLINE
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3024296/Rochdale-Labour-councillor-s-home-raided-anti-terror-police-21-year-old-son-arrested-Syrian-border-aunt-cousins-four-children.html#ixzz3WGIyz5wz
2.) Beeboid report:-
“Syria border arrests: Police search family home of seized Briton”
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-32174292
Absolutely nothing to see here people, move along.
Top story on Sky News ,hardly mentioned on News 24 until after about 24 minutes, when it was a couple of sentences . I wonder why ?These Bbc journo`s must think everyone is totally stupid .
Much ado over the three jihadi sluts, then silence when dad was exposed. But UK cops were so concerned.
Now why are we not hearing much about the young woman arrested for trying to leave Britain and fight in support of the Kurds against ISIS? I have been searching for news since her arrest. Her first hearing is imminent.
http://www.jinha.com.tr/en/h/Jailed_Kurdish_young_woman_has_first_hearing_in_London
mostly because they are I suspect but you a particularly stupid if you dont think Sky has an agenda. Sky has a lot to lose so they are bound to big up Arab stories. Why because Murdock has huge interests in the oil out there. When Tony went in and shot the place up sos his US chums could set up shop I dont think they thought they were about to set the world on fire.
Oh, dear. You’ve either had a few sherbets or you’ve reverted to the original Mr Hyde persona you announced your presence with some weeks ago (assuming this is your first pseudonym on here).
Cut out the ad hominems, it doesn’t do you or the BBC any favours.
“Manonclaphamomnibus
March 15, 2015 at 1:09 pm”
”I contribute here because I am highly critical of BBC news.However,I am quite surprised by the lack of objectivity and reasoning. Instead of BBC bias all this site appears to be about is a number of individuals reinforcing their own extremely uninformed political outlook.”
But why are you really on this website ?, Clapped out bus.
Tonights PM taking apart the statistics given by Nigel Farage last night on health tourism and HIV, and that national debt had doubled. House building was agreed with as needing a house built every two minutes to accommodate the massive immigration.
Yet no other politician had their figures assessed this way, and some of the comments on the health tourism just came across as plain desperate, he wasn’t right because they were last years figures, or that the NHS doesn’t keep records on the foreigners it treats (a whole documentary people in itself!) Quite an admission!
In fact the NHS keeps a record of foreign born people it treats, and when this figure is used it does come close to what Farage claims. That of course isn’t good enough so they have to say that plenty of people have come to the UK from countries which offer HIV treatment, like America ……… I don’t know if the US offers retrovirals FOC to HIV infected but I can’t imagine there are many Yanks in the UK availing themselves of treatment on the NHS !
Unfortunately Asylum seekers are able to access the NHS for all treatments FOC and many HIC cases are being treated.
It was appalling bias by the BBC – again.
That’s pretty perverse – any lack of data is down to the unionised medical professions refusing to vet immigrants:
Doctors and nurses challenged David Cameron’s proposed curbs on foreigners using the NHS last night by saying they refused to act as an “arm of the UK Border Agency”.
They said that forcing medical staff to check the immigration status of patients would increase bureaucracy and clash with ethical requirements.
Their response came as the Government produced wildly conflicting figures for the cost of treating patients from overseas.
Doctors refuse to vet immigrants
Free riding foreigners: the next NHS scandal
I’ve just heard this and couldn’t believe the determination of Eddie Mair and the other presenter, to discredit Nigel Farage.
As Thoughtful says, no other politician (especially not Milliband) has their statements examined in this way. “Impartiality in our DNA” !? My arse !
The 300 ‘maternity tourists’
“The problem of “maternity tourism” has become so acute that staff at Guy’s and St Thomas’ NHS Trust, in London, refer to the flow of West African women flying in to give birth as the “Lagos Shuttle”. ”
Note: staff at Guy’s and St Thomas’ NHS Trust said this, NOT Nigel Farage.
So what’s the answer Mr Omnibus? Increase foreign aid to pay for mini NHSs all over the third world?
If you believe, like the Celtic National Socialists, the Greens, the BBC and Labour etc., that we should treat anybody and everybody with any illness from anywhere in the world then don’t complain about the NHS failing on anything. Don’t complain if you, a loved one or a constituent can’t get a bed. Don’t complain if there are not enough drugs to go round. Don’t complain if people are waiting on gurneys, don’t complain if serious operations cannot take place. In the real world, i.e. not Manon’s world, there is only so much money available. We cannot afford to treat the world’s illnesses without neglecting our own citizens. Farage is completely right, except he didn’t go far enough.
Not so long ago in our country; to say what Farage did about putting our own people first, instead of foreigners, in terms of medical treatment would have been seen as simply stating the obvious and merely voicing mainstream opinion. The views of those who think we should treat all the sick of the world, however, would have been regarded as sheer lunacy or a peculiar extremism.
Not so long ago…
Maybe not long ago, but long enough for ‘progressives’ to label it as ‘the past’. It’s not about time, of course, it’s about common sense. Only UKIP understand that.
The bBC responds to the Farage HIV comment:
Election 2015: Nigel Farage defends HIV comments
UKIP Leader Nigel Farage has defended comments made in the TV leaders’ debate about migrants using the NHS for HIV treatment costing £25,000 per year.
And in reply the bBC find these people in which to castigate the leader of UKIP:
Plaid Cymru’s Leanne Wood responded by calling the comment “scaremongering” and saying he should be “ashamed”…Ms Wood responded: “This kind of scaremongering is dangerous… it divides communities and it creates stigma to people who are ill and I think you ought to be ashamed of yourself.”
HIV charity the Terrence Higgins Trust said “HIV doesn’t discriminate and politicians shouldn’t either”.Dr Rosemary Gillespie, of the Terrence Higgins Trust, said “discriminatory comments” make it harder to encourage people to take a test and stay safe.
“It was great to see so many people express outrage. If we do not take an inclusive approach and provide treatment for people who need it, we will never prevent onward transmission,” she added.
“Such ill-informed and discriminatory comments generate stigma, and make it harder to encourage people to take a test and stay safe.”
Conservative Environment Secretary Elizabeth Truss accused the UKIP leader of “attention seeking”, while Labour leader Ed Miliband called the comment “disgusting” and Lib Dem Jo Swinson described it as a “new low”
So if I didn’t know better, UKIP (or more so its leader) are wrong to say we should allow people from the thirdworld to come to the UK in which to be medically treated for life threatening conditions which in this case means HIV/AIDs
And here is something the above and the bBC haven’t mentioned:
HIV in the United Kingdom: 2014 Report
An estimated 107,800 (95% credible interval 101,600-115,800) people were living with HIV in the UK in 2013…. an estimated 38,700 black-Africans were HIV positive and this group constitutes two-thirds (65%, 38,700) of all heterosexual people living with HIV. The HIV prevalence rate among black-African heterosexuals is 56 per 1,000 population aged 15-59 years (41 per 1,000 men and 71 per 1,000 women). Almost two in five (38%) black-African men and one in three (31%) black-African women living with HIV remained unaware of their infection.
Those figures are shocking! I actually checked the document in case you made an error. One in fifteen heterosexual women. Unreal.
Makes you think that, once again, Farage has got it right and probably understates the problem rather than sensationalising it.
The NHS in Wales is a separate organisation. If Plaid Cymru think that Farage is so wrong on this we should send all non-UK HIV positive patients to Cardiff for treatment.
From Guido
http://order-order.com/2015/04/03/nigel-farage-is-right-about-health-tourism/#_@/0fAYx29TAjuqGA
Christ don’t do that, Heath Hospital ( aka the university hospital of Wales, don’t that sound posh ? ) could not cope. A 1970’s labour creation on a green field site, the place is horribly stressed, traffic, badly laid out, corridors leading nowhere, a main entrance which is more of a money making operation than any service on the M6, every time a helicopter lands ( on the roof ! ) of casulity they have to stop all traffic in and out. Charges a fourtune to park. The place is aged, and useless. A monument to labour and washed out polices.
The irony
I read in my local paper that a South African illegal immigrant stole his brothers passport, sneaked into the country and now he’s in hospital with TB.
As Scott would say ” Absolutely fabulous.”
And now on ‘PM’ there’s a report on rail engineering works
“There are few things which can strike terror in the heart and leve you feeling that you are sinking through the seat of your chair, and no I’m not talking about a UKIP Conservative coalition, I’m talking about engineering works.”
And this in the final run up to an election when the BBC is supposed to be extra careful about bias. This was not a political piece, it was about engineering work on the railways but they just couldn’t help themselves.
Bias as a way of life so deeply ingrained they don’t even know they’re doing it.
That should be the subject of a complaint to the BBC.
Just how they could attempt to defend it I cannot imagine.
Go to it Thoughtful
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b05pb8hd#playt=0h43m20s
That’s my complaint submitted (like it makes any difference)
They have to answer it.
Please let us know what the answer says.
When I complained about the “joke” in the Chairman’s script a while ago on the News Quiz, (therefore broadcast between 18.30 and 19.00) “It’s the Tories that put the n in cuts”, the reply came that it was approved at senior level before broadcast!
Interestingly the same “joke” was then recycled in a late night “edgy” “comedy” show.
Strangely when I quoted the joke verbatim on the site that the BBC used to provide for viewers and listeners it was removed because it offended the rules! So it was o.k verbalised, but not written down!
It all helps convince one of what most contributors on here already know about the underlying attitude of the BBC, but examples are always useful to be able to quote to such as Manon and other doubters.
Feel free to complain also, we’ll get the same brush off, but they really don’t see it as bias anymore.
The brush off
“Thanks for contacting us regarding PM on the 3rd April.
I’m sorry to hear that you feel there was bias displayed on the programme.
The amount of time spent covering a political party depends greatly on the prevailing news agenda, as well as on broader assessments of its electoral support.
BBC journalists are well aware of our commitment to impartial reporting. They are expected to put their own political views to one side when carrying out their work for the BBC.
Senior editorial staff, the Executive Committee and the BBC Trust keep a close watch on programmes to ensure that standards of impartiality are maintained.
It is not always possible or practical to reflect all the different opinions on a subject within individual programmes. Account needs to be taken of the way a subject is covered over a period of time; perfect balance is difficult to achieve on every single occasion while overall it is a more achievable goal.
We believe our coverage relating to the political parties has been proportionate and impartial and don’t agree with any suggestion of bias.
We value all of our audience feedback and your concerns have been sent across to senior management. They have also been published on our overnight report which circulates the BBC daily. This helps to inform and educate current and future broadcasts.
Thanks again for taking the time to contact us.”
Completely misses the point. I hope others here are complaining also.
Template Bingo. SNAP!!!!!
Now trying Ofcom.
The democratic process matters, but ever since the days of Robin Day the BBC and its prima donnas has had a sneering contempt for elected politicians.
‘This was not a political piece, it was about engineering work on the railways but they just couldn’t help themselves.’
Lefty Tourettes.*
*Includes a compulsion to spout ad hominems when faced with facts and arguments they can’t deal with.
I suspect the BBC commissioning editor who approved this intended to hide their prejudice behind it being a ‘humourous’ piece by a non BBC journalist.
Also has a dig at Katie Hopkins, someone the left hates.
Where did the BBc 1 18:00 news go? Oh yes of course it’s a bank holiday extravaganza of entertainment isn’t it ? Question of sport, Eastenders & Masterchef all that money but so much crap broadcast.
Onto news 24 then. Still banging on about the terminally dull debate which of course is wide open to another BBc favourite pastime of speculating endlessly . I see they are still trying to attack Farage about his outrageous comments about HIV health tourists after all what do facts matter when you can be shouted down by the plaid leader who can’t speak Welsh apart from her last sentence. Oh they are actually talking about it I type. I also liked the comment from her that the English should increase their payments to Wales although the aim of plaid is Welsh independence. I also note they are bigging up Sturgeon (I love what she does with her hair) Although from what I saw I’m at a bit of a loss why.
Ohh here comes the BBc Kenyan reporter who seems to be speaking some form of pigeon English. Ok I’ve had enough back to the Horror channel
Dave regards the Health tourists to the Uk, I do believe that this came about due to so many health experts being allowed to opine to the bBC around 1999/2000 that checking immigrants at our borders for nasty aliments was racist and could lead to many of them to go underground. This hasn’t been helped by how the very same people claim it is unethical to ask people if they qualify for NHS treatment. Yet unlike medical practitioners in almost every other country the bBC variant refuses to check immigrants in which to make them pay for treatment which every British Taxpayer has to contribute to.
Then there’s the bBC’s (and left) gravitation for self-rule be it the West Bank, Kosovo, Scotland and now Wales, to these champions of self-determination and free speech this is a human right that everybody should be afforded, until it comes to England and those who support the English such as Northern Ireland, Gibraltar or even the Falklands..
Now lets look at the future utopia’s of Scotland and Wales.
Scotland has a population of around 5 million and Wales 3 million. At a stroke they are placed at a disadvantage due to their relative small populations. That is plain simple economic fact. Then there’s geography , both are on the edges of the EU, both (As is England) separated from mainland Europe by the channel anything they produce would entail transport costs. Not only that but most major manufacturers look at the cheaper East of Europe, rather than the much more expensive West in which to set up shop, who in their right mind wants to set up on an Island away from the mainland.
Add the militant tendencies of the British worker. And it’s a no brainer that Scotland and Wales are looking at ruin if they decide to go it alone. If they did achieve that dream, they would soon follow in the footsteps of Greece in becoming a failed nation and just like each and every country which demanded independence from the Uk these past 70 years, we would find the biggest export from |Scotland and Wales into England would be its people, who would all claim;
”I didn’t vote for the Nationalists’
”Ok I’ve had enough back to the Horror channel ”
So you’re a fan of BBC 3 then ?
LOL. no I haven’t watched BBC 3 for well over a year or as it should be called Family guy repeat channel. No the Horror channel has just suddenly appeared on my freeview list.
“The deaths of four patients have prompted an investigation by police into an Alderney medical practice.”
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-guernsey-32159284
As David Cameron said last night – “What about Mid-Staffs ?”
BBC not so interested.
Interesting piece on the news that Obama had spoken to the Saudi minister (can’t remember which one) who had given his blessing to the Iran atomic enrichment deal.
Of course I take this as more evidence that Sunni Islam is controlling Western politicians. The Israeli voice has been pretty much ignored, and despite Netanyahu’s belligerence Obama hasn’t even bothered to address his comments.
The Republicans are much more open to Israel, but they’re in opposition and they haven’t seem the colour of Saudi money yet.
Please provide a link. My information is that the Saudis and all the Sunni Gulf are seriously scared by a nuclear Iran and won’t rule out acquiring/developing their own, if the bad deal goes through. I’d love to hear what the Saudi actually said.
This is simply a superbly written essay, by an exceptional thinker, on the battle with the Progressive Left and it is well worth the reading:
http://sultanknish.blogspot.co.uk/2015/04/this-culture-war-were-in.html
Seconded. A must be read piece.
Excellent – thanks.
‘The left does not have an authentic culture. Its counter-culture culture is a machine of destruction, a clumsily slapped-together assemblage of tools for cracking open, destroying and dominating people. A collection of lies and excuses, smears and bad habits, laced over with cultural appropriation and the fetisihization of the minority ‘Other’ as its sole source of spirituality.
It has no tradition. It has no heritage. It has no culture. It’s a virus, not an organism. It is utterly worthless and, like a virus, will not survive the destruction of its host.’
Keep fighting the bastards.
Not been able to go back on the comments so maybe this has been mentioned.
Why have we had to put up with the BBC Radio 4 fifteen minute drama by Mike Bartlett, The Steal? The childish Marxism of it’s theme & the sacrifice of the naive ‘ good-hearted’ central character must have been chosen as a metaphor for Holy Week. But beyond that, which the feeble-minded leftish listeners will like, is a dastardly message of stealing. Why such leftish nonsense in an election campaign? Oh I forgot, it’s the BBC!
The BBC has obviously spent hours going through figures trying to discredit Nigel Farage over his HIV/AIDS claims.
It’s a shame Farage wasn’t quick thinking enough to demand where the BBC got their figures from when in the infamous Radio 4 Today program interview earlier this week when the BBC interviewer (Husein?) accused him saying that it seems that ‘half the UKIP party are involved in some sort of scandal’.
Farage: “ok, where are your figures about these scandals? And compared to other parties? You do have figures yes? Research? Proper statistics? Oh you just made the ‘half’ figure up? The BBC?just making stuff up Oh dear.’
The BBC respose would have been worth listening to.
Again get a complaint in and see how they justify it. You could mention about their fact checking service for the election to rub it in.
I complained about their coverage of Sarah Palin as a creationist.
I kept at it and eventually they admitted that they could not substantiate it. Again its all a bit late, but it helps keep piling up the evidence of their bias.
Believe me, if I thought it would do any good I would. But even when the BBC admits to errors, even when the ex director general admits to a “massive left-wing bias”, nothing changes. They have admitted their coverage of immigration and the EU are biased, but they carry on just as before.. even worse IMO.
They are beyond redemption, evidence does not faze them it is irrelevant. Maybe it’s because of “the unique way they are funded”, i.e. ppl are sent to jail if they refuse to pay for their fatcat wages and extremely generous retirement.
All we can hope for is another Tory government who will perhaps at least decrimalise non-payment of the licence fee. That will result in the slow demise of the BBC. Labour? They will probably reintroduce the death penalty, such is their reliance on BBC propaganda.
As I mentioned before on this site , it is a good idea to complain because each time you do and especially if you take the complaint further , the BBC have to answer and put resources into answering eg- employ people – it all costs them money. When the pack arrives from the BBC Trust eventually when you pursue a complaint the trouble they have to go to and the expense is obvious-( eg they sent us a recording of the relevant broadcast and had to get Jeremy Bowan to re-record it as in the original his voice was too aggressive and would have proved our point ). Make the BBC work to justify their bias – it’s important and individual complaints involves time and money to answer.
Channel 4 News made a big fuss about an asylum case recently:
Movement for Justice By Any Means Necessary
Allegedly, the Beeb were on the case as well:
Lesbian Immigration Support Group (LISG)
High Court ruling today:
Aderonke Apata was so desperate to convince the Government she was gay that she submitted a private DVD and photographs of her sex life as evidence. Yet a High Court judge has ruled that she engaged in same sex relationships in order to “fabricate” an asylum claim.
John Bowers QC, who was sitting as a Deputy High Court Judge, said “I find it difficult to disagree with the conclusions of the First Tier Tribunal that ‘she has engaged in same-sex relationships in detention in order to fabricate an asylum claim based on claimed lesbian sexuality’. I also accept the associated submission made by [the Home Office] that she has in effect adjusted her conduct so as to adopt other customs, dress and mores of a particular social group purely as a way of gaining refugee status.”
Nigerian gay rights activist has her High Court asylum bid rejected – because judge doesn’t believe she is lesbian
I don’t blame the pseudo-lesbian at all. If you set up a gays-first immigration policy you should expect straights seeking a better life to try and exploit the prejudice.
More money to grease the legal machine too no doubt.
BBC (and Guardian, Independent) reports on how a gay man is made to feel unworthy by refusal of a baker to make a gay wedding cake. Yes. Those bigoted Christians will be sued.
But now we have a gay being refused a wedding cake by muslim bakers. Nothing from the BBC. Only Christians can violate gay rights.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-32063006
http://www.mrctv.org/blog/hidden-camera-trying-buy-gay-wedding-cake-muslim-bakeries
I recall this (Northern Ireland) case being discussed a couple of months back, and although the other report is located in Dearborn, Michigan, it was precisely what was being warned would happen if the gay appellants won.
There’s going to be one helluva lot of blow-back in the UK if this case in Northern Ireland becomes a ’cause celebre’ for the gay community….. and all sorts of crazy cases will come to court.
I don’t think you really have a valid point here.
The bakery in Northern Ireland was deliberately targeted and the publicity set up beforehand, and it is a crime under the left wing oppression act not to do anything a gay person required of you, unless of course you are a Muslim which trumps gay in the hierarchy of isms.
The clip you posted was only uploaded 11 hours ago, which to be fair just isn’t long enough for any media in the UK to pick up on, let alone the BBC which will take at least 2 to 3 days after everyone else – look at how long it took to report the Labour councillor father of Syrian Jihadis.
Then there’s the issue that in America the Fascists can’t bring in the left wing oppression laws we have here, so no crime has been committed.
Had this occurred in the UK theoretically it might have been a different story, but it didn’t so I wouldn’t expect the BBC to cover this.
Because as we all know, there are no gay cake bakers.
I just struggled through Easter Springwatch, which was piling on the “climate change” alarmism. Two species in particular were claimed to be victims of “climate change”: the Swallow and the Kittiwake.
In the case of the Swallow, the supposed explanation is the early arrival of spring in the UK, meaning that the Swallow population arrives too late to find its aphid food supply. Quite apart from the fact that spring doesn’t exactly feel terribly well advanced right now, HBW.COM, a pretty respected resource for ornithological matters, points out that aphids are not central to the Swallow’s diet at any point in the breeding season; also that the Swallow’s diet varies greatly among different populations. In the context of discussing the world’s population of Hirundo rustica, HBW makes no mention of “climate change”.
With the Kittiwake (Rissa tridactyla), “climate change” supposedly caused the wrong sort of plankton, leading to a collapse in the Sand Eel population. If the Sand Eels are now rarer, that is more likely to have been caused by reckless over-fishing of a species which is used to make fertiliser. Springwatch, therefore, is ignoring a genuinely man-made, environmental problem, while simultaneously trotting out irrelevant global warming propaganda and (surprise, surprise) ignoring a Brussels-originated scandal.
Viewers were asked to look out for five specific signs of spring: the arrival of Swallows; oak trees coming into leaf; sightings of Seven-spotted Ladybirds; the appearance of hawthorn blossom; sightings of the Orange-tip Butterfly. This has a very strong whiff of a spurious survey, for which the “findings” have already been written.
Confidence isn’t improved by the comments on the Springwatch blog by the beebyanka’s Woodland Trust collaborator in this, Kate Lewthwaite, the “Woodland Trust Citizen Science Manager”. Here is a sample:
“This information has provided a real insight into how plants and animals are responding to climate change. We have already discovered how both spring and autumn are arriving earlier than before; up to two weeks in the case of certain species, and that the seasons in themselves are also much less distinct. In some years ‘winter’ seems to hardly make an appearance at all.”
Or…
“Better understanding of seasonal timings means we may be able to help species that appear less able to react to climate change. For example analysis of our records shows that frogs are so locally adapted they may struggle to keep up with even modest change.”
That doesn’t seem an argument particularly applicable to Swallows, which are, to say the least, a bit more mobile than frogs (and, if frogs are so significant, why doesn’t the survey feature them?)
In any case, don’t her remarks abundantly mark her out as someone with her mind already made up?
Of course. The agenda is set, and has been for some considerable time. The task is to find events to support it, and/or invent others which may not, but which, with a little tweaking here and there, quietly fit in with the plan.
The guidelines will have been met, and the message broadcast. Job done.
That’s been the objective all along
I moved to my present house in 1996. The previous owner had planted a large number of daffodils and I was looking forward to have one of my own daffodils for St David’s Day. Unfortunately the first ones came into bloom two weeks too late. Every year since then they have been a couple of weeks too late, and this year they were again two weeks too late. For me Spring is not getting earlier.
This matches the science, which shows that there has been no global warming for the past 18 years, but it doesn’t fit with the BBC propaganda. I didn’t bother with Easter Springwatch as I didn’t want to waste my time watching lies.
My father used to get the “North Wales Weekly News” and another newspaper from North Wales, circa 1980. I remember an issue which had a front-page photograph of Saint David’s Day daffodils, encrusted in snow.
It had snowed a little bit, although I suspect that the photographer had “enhanced” the scene with a few snowballs. The real point is that there were daffodils in full bloom, in North Wales, on the 1st of March.
I now live about a hundred and fifty miles latitudinally south of Ruthin, or Abergele, but there was no daffodil in bloom within miles of here, last Saint David’s Day.
Global warming?
in any case, don’t her remarks abundantly mark her out as someone with her mind already made up?
Probably because she is aware that if you can fly or swim then as things warm up you have a better chance of adaption, assuming your food also moves with you.
Whether spring watch got the detail right or not is quite irrelvant
Fish stocks native to this land have already moved further north. The north sea was measured as 1.6 degrees higher which is one of the reasons. So the Principal is sound.
As to the cold spell you refer to this is believed to be due to the Artic melting causing the jet stream to meander.
Troll: “Whether spring watch got the detail right or not is quite irrelvant [sic][sic]”
It is relevant, in fact. If it isn’t relevant, then the programme should not be broadcast.
“If you can fly or swim then as things warm up you have a better chance of adaption, assuming your food also moves with you.”
You obviously skipped English lessons, as well as science ones. I already pointed out that the slanted survey ignored frogs, but favoured Swallows, which are found, in the summer, throughout the British mainland.
‘The north sea was measured as 1.6 degrees higher which is one of the reasons. So the Principal is sound.’
Higher than what? Measured by whom, how, and comparing it to what historic data exactly?
You’ve been caught out on your ocean warming lies several times before and seem to have an unhealthy habit of disappearing when challenegd.
The media with the idiot BBC to the fore are still going on about that stupid debate of the seven. It is an insult to us the electorate.
Somebody won ? Somebody lost? what on earth are they on about ?
This is not how it is supposed to be. We are voting to decide the future of England. The culture war is real and this election is an important one. What are they doing these morons? Turning the whole thing into a charade . Into a Pop idol event.
Some will say it is deliberate. To keep us stupid proles in our places. I doubt it. This is the level of our society today and it is just dreadful.
Farage should not have had anything to do with it.
Parliamentarians of the past must be spinning in their graves.
I have had enough of this election as it is being presented by the media. They insult us all but that is probably the intention.
Dave, I’d guess Farage pretty much agrees with you. Did you see how incredulous he was at the deluded talk on debt? The self-styled ‘Independent’ sneeringly said he ‘short-circuited’, and produced this piece of pure propaganda:
Watch Nigel Farage short-circuit midway through the leaders’ debate
He has to do them, though. He gets some small opportunities to talk to the people. Everything else – TV and papers – is outrageously biased, but it only takes a few seconds here and there to connect. I’d be surprised if UKIP doesn’t rise in the polls for Sunday’s papers.
As for dumbing down, they’ve been at it since the 70’s, but when the house of cards falls, common sense will become fashionable again.
It was orchestrated up by Tory spin doctors, to protect Camoron, to erm … “too many cooks” the issues, and leave a blatant Tory Political Broadcast,(same old lies) at the end.
It was a disgrace, an insult to the electorate, and Tory fuckwits are smirking, because they think he got away with it.
A new low.
SKY News papers review
Hold the front page, Nigel Farage sweats !!!
Wannabe intellectual Mattthew Syed, ” I find Farage views despicable.”
Al Beeb are now reporting that there is a shortage of teachers in England ,all because of the ‘so called’ baby boom.
Once again, no mention of the Elephant in the room? Its getting prettty obviouse now.
Vote UKIP and make Britain Great again.
Wont`t happen , your future Masters are Millipeed n Mrs Krankie . Get use to it kippers , you are “Making It So`.
Give Cameron his credit too. Alienating natural conservative voters as ‘bigots’ and ‘racists’.
Ed and Krankie it may be – but what that will do is hasten the falling apart of the UK and the eventual rise of common sense amongst the population I think you and your ilk have about 5 years left of this massive con of the people – you yourself can see it unravelling too many fingers in the dyke never ends well
Tories are aiding, and loving that too … in the self serving strategy of giving SNP consistent airtime, they re all at it Murdoch, Cameron, Crosby, once again …
As the old saying goes
“they d sell their own grannies for a tanner”
No Tory Policies, No info on their “Welfare” cuts, consistent lies about their own record, just smear and smirk, character assassination.
What a despicable bunch of self serving, inept and grasping liars, so typical of the “born to rule” ideologue.
There was a recent Mark Steyn article on Obama which ended with the question: “What would he do differently if he was working for the other side?”. All too often we can ask the same question about Cameron.
“born to rule” ideologue.
” Elder statesman Sir ” Malcolm Rifkind, check out the arrogance, the sense of self entitlement, the cheek to the reporters, it’s breathtaking, it borders on the supernatural. Doesn’t he work for us and not the other way around ? Plus he looks like Inspector Gadget.
Ah! old Rumple
“you d be surprised how much free time I have”
Rifkind
the “caught peddling influence guy”
Was this after “cash for access”?
when he had the whip removed?
had to stand down as an MP?
and stand down as ISC chair?
looks quite coy .. I wonder why?
What ,with the one policy?
http://www.ukip.org/policies_for_people
Again, you tiresome little tit.
NHS funding: Public ‘back tax rises for healthcare’
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-32151444
Most misleading! Here’s the opening paragraph: A majority of people in Britain support tax rises as a way of funding the NHS, a poll suggests.
2nd paragraph:
The Ipsos MORI survey of nearly 1,800 people for the Health Foundation think tank found 85% thought the NHS should be protected from cuts – significantly more than other public services.
So not a tax rise then.
However (3rd paragraph):
When presented with a range of options setting out how that could be achieved, 59% said they supported tax rises.
Can anyone enlighten me and point out how we need to increase taxes to prevent cuts in NHS funding? Do we need to employ more people to stop the government cutting funding (even though they aren’t)?
“Funding for NHS commissioners will rise from £96bn to £100bn over the next two years so, despite wider public sector budget cuts, the NHS is being protected from inflation at a time of austerity. The changes follow an extensive review into funding allocations and all CCGs will receive a funding increase matching inflation in the next two years while the most underfunded areas, and those with fast-growing populations, will receive even more.”
http://www.england.nhs.uk/ourwork/forward-view/sop/
We’re already spending more, so why are the BBC (as if we don’t know!) highlighting this irrelevant discussion?
Can anyone enlighten me and point out how we need to increase taxes to prevent cuts in NHS funding? Do we need to employ more people to stop the government cutting funding (even though they aren’t)?
There are two definition of a cut.
A cut can be a reduction in real terms.
A cut can also be a reduction relative to an anticipated increase in costs and/or demand.
There are also implied cuts through diverting resources away from intended uses as in Lansley disasterous NHS health reforms.
The problem with the NHS and other social services is they are highly labour intensive and by implication very expensive to run,one reason why thee isnt a statutory minimum of nurses on a ward.
The problem with the NHS and other social services is they are highly labour intensive and by implication very expensive to run…
Whoa there boy! Hold on a cotton pickin’ minute…’. There is no such ‘implication’. The reason labour is so expensive in the NHS is that ZaNu Labour decided for ideological reasons to deem nursing to be a degree standard occupation and to overpay them in comparison with, say, private sector engineers and software developers who must compete with Eastern Europeans and Indians. Instant solution to the ‘need’ for more female degrees and gender pay issues. Of course, this eroded differentials with doctors, so rather than hold firm, they just overpaid the doctors as well. In spite of the cost difficulties that ensued, there is the advantage that politicians can now use doctors pay as the yardstick when pushing for rises for themselves.
It was bad government by Labour; not an ‘implication’ of being labour intensive.
The point being that the possiblilty of substituting Labour with machines is limited irrespective of the actual labour costs.
In respect of the actual costs of doctors and nurses I am not sure what nurses are now expected to do but your point about comparisions to geographically transferable skills merely reinforces my point.
It is local wages that are relevant not those in Deli.
We should have one economy where the public sector wages reflect the reality of those supporting it in the private sector. Instead, we have two economies – the public, where wages are driven traditionally by the unions and the private with wages driven down by immigration. Something has to give… eventually.
Front page of the BBC Website – ‘Labour to pledge new homes fund’.
Their pledge of 125,000 homes is somehow the top news story, tucked further down is an article in which the Conservatives promised 200,000 starter homes.
The Labour story is a clear attempt to spike the Conservative pledge which was published 6 hours earlier than Labours response.
Yet, the BBC has decided to give Labour top billing.
Ironically the BBC cannot manage to get the amount of new homes that Labour are claiming correct, in the Conservative article they claim 200,000 – in the latest article they claim 125,000.
Note the use of headlines on the BBC UK news website.
The word ‘Labour’ always appears in positive story headlines and Labour-hinged positive stories sit at the top of the page for hours indeed for days at holidays and weekends.
Today (Easter Saturday) it is ‘Labour to pledge new homes fund’.
And UKIP always appears to ‘defend’ , in the negative news headlines .
Just before 9.00 on the ‘Today’ program the BBC gathers a group of lefties to pass comment yet again on the leaders debate, and to lionise Nicola Sturgeon who “clearly won”. Then it moved onto the inevitable attack on UKIP calling the HIV remark ‘bizarre’ despite it being true.
How can they serious claim in the run up to an election that they are not biased?
I heard it too so somebody saying something that is true is ‘bizarre’ to them. I suppose it is really to them- it’s amazing all these people dancing around the truth what is the matter with them all .Still Global Warming is on it’s way next week looks like temperatures are on the rise and the BBC will move into scorched Earth mode
Bizarrely, they behave like ostriches and ‘bury their heads in the sand’. It appears that they don’t want to hear the truth.
They literally cannot accept reality. Liberalism is dependent on this. A refusal to look at the world as it is . The world has to conform to the liberal’s desire. It is cultish and dangerous.
For that reason all argument is pointless. Let reality do what reality always does. Teach them what happens if reality is spurned for long enough.
On all matters- economic, social, legal etc the gulf now is between these cult pods and the ordinary person.
They are insane but dangerous.
Dangerous because before they implode they will turn very nasty indeed.
‘They literally cannot accept reality. Liberalism is dependent on this. A refusal to look at the world as it is . The world has to conform to the liberal’s desire.’
And they make sure it does, re-writing history in true Orwellian fashion:
‘In truth, these movies — Pride, Billy Elliot (also a piece of miners’ strike propaganda that depicted Thatcher as the Devil incarnate), Made In Dagenham (about a car factory strike) and The Full Monty (about a group of redundant Sheffield steelworkers forced to strip naked to make money) —might as well have been party political broadcasts for Labour.
For the keystone of these Left-wing propaganda films is a pernicious rewriting of history, portraying Britain’s recent past as a battle between heroic trade unionists, fighting to defend the poor and the vulnerable, and unfeeling bosses, bulldozing everything in their path in the ruthless pursuit of making money for their capitalist overlords.’
And those generations who don’t know any better will accept it as the truth. Worse, the myths are sustained by the BBC who will never, ever broadcast anything positive about Thatcher, nor anything negative about the unions.
That’s an excellent comment!
Anyone who lived through those years will realise the degree of delusion in those storylines.
Likewise, anyone of a homosexual or other ‘alternative’ persuasion who dared tell the truth would have to admit that the heartland of intolerance was in the bosom of the industrial proletariat.
Still, that’s cultural Marxism – never let the truth get in the way of a good propaganda myth!
Unfortunately by not actually looking at any facts to back up your claims you merely create a further propaganda myth. It might be the one you are comfortable with but that does not make it any more reliable. Id love to see you dfine Cultural Marxisism.
You obviously got that from a copy of the Gutter press.
I’m only going to say this once.
I am not in the least interested in arguing with someone whose purpose here is clearly just to spew off-topic Labour talking points and who repeatedly refuses to engage when the BBC is caught broadcasting its socialist biased rubbish.
You are a troll, too dim-witted to argue with, and I am not wasting my time joining in your juvenile games. I wish others would do the same.
Well said.
Well said. Tiresome. Coupled with a sanctimonious shrill and an extraordinary inability for self-reflection.
They literally cannot accept reality.
Maybe you could define that for us.
Manon, you are rather tiresome, churning out your schoolboy questions but incapable of responding to argument or presenting your own. And dear me, asking for definitions as a form of objecting to an argument is rather tiresome. May I add that your standard argument relies too heavily on associating your opponent with newspaper sources that are obligatorily condemned within the socialist/student/UAF/Labour chattering groups. I suggest that – in the words of that dreadful Sarah Palin (boo hiss) – you buck up or shut up.
As for your request for a definition of cultural Marxism, some of us have had the misfortune to audit courses in former Polys where cultural Marxism in its various forms from Gramsci to some of the Frankfurters was taught by very poorly qualified lecturers. As for you request for a definition of reality try J Austin, whose definition I once mentioned in a BBC HYS in the context of a response to Bowen’s gloficiation of the Brotherhood. It was moderated out several time and I was able to ascertain that it was my description of him as an English philosopher, when we all know where Bowen derives his ideas of reality from.
No. I leave it to reality to teach you .
Think of reality as a wall 20 foot high across the highway. The liberal is happily driving along in his or her’s car thinking up the world as he or she goes. How to make people do this and think that and be nice or nasty to order. Then the crash. The car hits the wall.
” They literally cannot accept reality. Liberalism is dependent on this.”
Michael Savage calls Liberalism a mental illness.
Said by the Labour councillor father of the returned would be Jihadis.
“The ideology which is peddled, this very hardcore understanding of the faith, one which is state sponsored by Saudi Arabia, that has to be challenged and it’s quite difficult to challenge it in a coherent manner when the Saudi ideology has the backing of petrodollars.”
“There are mosques in this country which are funded with petrodollars. However, mosques in Rochdale, from what I understand, don’t have a problem of radicalisation and extremism.”
How many times have I been saying this? People even those who might & should, just aren’t listening. It seems they can’t even get the thought into their heads that their political leaders might have been compromised by the promise of lots of those petro dollars for themselves.
Cameron, and several other Eton toff Tories couldn’t give a toss about the country so long as they get their hands on the filthy lucre, I think the amount needed to buy Cameron would be surprisingly low.
” I think the amount needed to buy Cameron would be surprisingly low.”
The usual rate is 30 pieces of silver.
It only requires a cursory glance at BBC Breakfast this morning to tell us Political Correctness must always trump honest discussion of current affairs at the BBC.
A quietly-spoken Im-marm (sic) from Rochdale tells us emphatically and repeatedly that it is “unhelpful” to even bring up the subject of radicalisation that might possibly be occurring in the town’s mosques. He reckons it’s all “on line”.
Perhaps we should remember that logic when the BBC blames producers of fatty foods for the fact that people eat too much of their products. Maybe obesity is the new self-radicalisation?
Then we have a full-blown Guardianista on the sofa to review the newspapers. How about those “controversial” comments by dear old Nigel Farage, eh?
The Guardian journo (an academic Professor – no less) tells us UKIP is on a “core-vote strategy” (isn’t that what Labour, LibDems and Nationalists are on? – my take on the election is that it is only the Tories who are currently rejecting their core-vote – but what do I know, I’m just a punter?).
As regards Nigel’s HIV NHS figures the Guardian guy and BBC sofa bods agree ‘it doesn’t matter if he is right or wrong – his voters will believe it’
Now that’s a corker because if the Guardian/BBC could properly and convincingly undermine the UKIP figures then they would have done so. They would be shouting it from the Breakfast sofa roof-tops.
By the way, Guadian guy and BBC sofa bods were in complete cohesion of thought in this discussion.
This ‘UKIP voters will believe it, true or not’ is nothing short of a political slur. It is a politically motivated judgement and a caution to their viewers that if you beleive this stuff you are a nasty person.
Bring up these subjects and you are a bigot (TM Gordon Brown 2010)
‘..it is “unhelpful” to even bring up the subject’
The number of no-go areas rendering our political-media establishment mute and impotent is bizarre as it is growing, to the point of derangement.
“You can’t… mustn’t talk about this”
“Why, is it factually incorrect?”
“I can’t answer, other than to say it is not a subject for discussion. I am now heading to twitter for back up”
“How will that help the status of the facts?”
“You are an ‘ist and I am reporting you. Stand ready to be blocked, hauled up, fined, jailed or at the very least vilified by all in my flock… Baaaaaaaaah!”
Here you go, with the mot du jour… ‘blasts’:
http://www.thedrum.com/news/2015/04/04/telegraph-blasted-twitter-over-claims-nicola-sturgeon-prefers-david-cameron
Nice to see a BBC staffer ‘blasting’ away over claims that don’t suit the hive.
Well Sturgeon did deny it. Categorically. Categorically denied it. What about that, then?
It should be part of the national curriculum that every child reads the collected sayings of the late Mandy Rice Davies.
“There’s a limit to what you can say in a multi-cultural society…in which case, the question must be asked: can such a society truly be free?” Peter Brimelow ‘Alien Nation’.
‘A quietly-spoken Im-marm (sic) from Rochdale tells us emphatically and repeatedly that it is “unhelpful” to even bring up the subject of radicalisation that might possibly be occurring in the town’s mosques. He reckons it’s all “on line”.
We’ll just have to take his word for it as the rest of us haven’t got a fucking clue what goes on in there – and that includes our so-called ‘security services’.
… the rest of us haven’t got a fucking clue what goes on in there…
Multiculturalism, innit? Nothing to do with us… we just celebrate our enrichment through diversity…