Guest post by Robin
“As an aside to the Hopkins and other immigration threads .
Calamities happen in the world , and movement of people’s is one of the consequences .
It could be a huge global catastrophe, or so localised it happens just to you .
Now imagine your neighbours house burns down , so you offer his family succour for a period .
You think this is a temporary accommodation, until insurance or whatever sorts it out .
But your new intake gets permanent , and divides your house into separate quarters , or even — takes over your ( the )house and you have to move into the garage .
An implausible situation , but not on a global scale for many people in the world in times past , as Romans would testify Where are the Romans today ?
The Britons had the same , but they are still with us , as they kept a toe hold in Cornwall , Brittany and God’s own country ; Wales . Much as a Welshman reveres the place , it cannot be disputed that they were forced to be there .
This was because the low lying areas where the Angles, Saxons and Jutes were living were being flooded and waves of invasions (or migratory) pressures from the East meant there was no land to settle in mainland Europe, so they invaded Britain .
This wasn’t welcomed . The Romano British didn’t say” Oh you’ve come to take over , no problem we’ll just move westward until your satisfied with the land grab you got .” There was resistance .
And thus it’s been throughout history , and the latest long running saga is with the Palestinians , who feel they have been replaced by Jews. A people who migrated for worse reasons than sea levels encroaching upon land .
The main point is what the Gramscis and BBC omit , that the mass movement of humanity from one part of the globe to another – apart from the USA for a limited period – is not a peaceful event .”
Exactly! I tried to make this point a few days ago, humans are still tribal creatures & value their territory & kin.
BTW, why are European countries so quick to hand out citizenship? I suppose cynically that the Italians know that an Italian passport means a fast-track exit by the immigrants to Britain, clever move!
There’s a useful petition to urge loony lefties to offer their spare rooms to African migrants.
https://www.change.org/p/the-green-party-uk-natalie-bennet-set-up-a-scheme-to-allow-your-supporters-to-offer-their-spare-rooms-to-african-migrants?
I expect it will soon be advertised on the bBBC.
The loony toones will have to first get a sharia compliance certificate of their homes from the local mosque. If they dont have this certificate, they can be sued for hurt feelings from the extremely sensitive Muslim asylum seekers – lots of filthy Kuffar money.
Robin, the people of wales once lived in Gododdin an area in South East Scotland, not a low lying area. Their migration after they lost a great battle, Battle of Catraeth the poem documenting this has the earliest mention of King Arthur, and their journey to Wales provided the basis for the Arthurian legends.
It was the Picts who finished off the few remaining men of Gododdin in the 7th Century and the country fades from history after that.
Al Beeb reports Europe must do more.
Once all these boat people are given asylum in Europe we know which way they will head and so does the EU.
Britain has taken its fair share of ‘so called’ asylum seekers.
Will Cameron buckle to the EU tomorrow ?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-32409151
“As a species we are not biologically equipped to deal with a mass of strangers who masquerade as members of our tribe.” Desmond Morris.
A reprise-
“Groupthink: Can We Trust the BBC on Immigration?”
By Ed West
39 pages. pdf report’
(2013).
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0ByxOuCmTA41nejF3ZmROaTctWW8/edit?pli=1
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3044292/Genocide-Christians-blood-soaked-depravity-exceeded-today-s-atrocities-Islamic-State-100-years-Turkey-faces-global-disgust-refusal-admit-butchering-MILLION-Christians.html..the genocide of christians that the bbc forgot about.
Re: ..And thus it’s been throughout history , and the latest long running saga is with the Palestinians , who feel they have been replaced by Jews. A people who migrated for worse reasons than sea levels encroaching upon land .
It is thoroughly documented that the first inhabitants of Eretz Yisrael after some centuries were the Jewish pioneers, and not the Arabs so-called Palestinians. Some eyewitnesses have written their memories about the Land before the Jewish immigration:
“There is not a solitary village throughout its whole extent (valley of Jezreel, Galilea); not for thirty miles in either direction… One may ride ten miles hereabouts and not see ten human beings. For the sort of solitude to make one dreary, come to Galilee… Nazareth is forlorn… Jericho lies a mouldering ruin… Bethlehem and Bethany, in their poverty and humiliation… untenanted by any living creature… A desolate country whose soil is rich enough, but is given over wholly to weeds… a silent, mournful expanse… a desolation… We never saw a human being on the whole route… Hardly a tree or shrub anywhere. Even the olive tree and the cactus, those fast friends of a worthless soil had almost deserted the country… Palestine sits in sackcloth and ashes… desolate and unlovely…”.
– Mark Twain, “The Innocents Abroad”, 1867 –
Many Arab sources confirm the fact that the Holy Land was still Jewish by population and culture in spite of the Diaspora:
•In 985 c.e. the Arab writer Muqaddasi complained that in Jerusalem the large majority of the population were Jewish, and said that “the mosque is empty of worshippers…” .
•Ibn Khaldun, one of the most creditable Arab historians, in 1377 c.e. wrote:
“Jewish sovereignty in the Land of Israel extended over 1400 years… It was the Jews who implanted the culture and customs of the permanent settlement”.
After 300 years of Arab rule in the Holy Land, Ibn Khaldun attested that Jewish culture and traditions were still dominant. By that time there was still no evidence of “Palestinian” roots or culture .
•The historian James Parker wrote: “During the first century after the Arab conquest [670-740 c.e.], the caliph and governors of Syria and the [Holy] Land ruled entirely over Christian and Jewish subjects. Apart from the Bedouin in the earliest days, the only Arabs west of the Jordan were the garrisons”.
Even though the Arabs ruled the Land from 640 c.e. to 1099 c.e., they never became the majority of the population. Most of the inhabitants were Christians (Assyrian and Armenian) and Jews.
If the historic documents, comments written by eyewitnesses and declarations by the most authoritative Arab scholars are still not enough, let us quote the most important source for muslim Arabs:
“And thereafter We [Allah] said to the Children of Israel: ‘Dwell securely in the Promised Land. And when the last warning will come to pass, we will gather you together in a mingled crowd’.”.
– Qur’an 17:104 –
jackie
Thanks for the concise essay on Jewish claims to Israel.
Will keep for future reference.
The Palis migrated to Israel because the Jews brought modern agriculture, jobs, life, roads, medicine, in fact the whole gamut of Western civilisation, to a place that was derelict under Ottoman rule.
The only admisasble claim, maybe in a sharia court, would be that all land belongs to allah, and must be handed over to Muslims, once it has been developed to a proper standard for Muslims to live in.
I would also add….According to the United Nations weird standards, any person that spent TWO YEARS (!!!) in “Palestine” before 1948, with or without proof, is a “Palestinian”, as well as all the descendants of that person. Indeed, the PLO leaders eagerly demand the “right” of all Palestinians to come back to the land that they occupied before June 1967 c.e., but utterly reject to return back to the land where they lived only 50 years before, namely, in 1917 c.e. Why? Because if they agree to do so, they have to settle back in Iraq, Syria, Arabia, Libya, Egypt… and only a handful Arabs would remain in Israel (by Israel is intended the whole Land between the Yarden River and the Mediterranean Sea, plus the Golan region). It is thoroughly documented that the first inhabitants of Israel after some centuries were the Jewish pioneers, and not the Arabs so-called Palestinians.
Do the UN recognise the property claims of the Jewish citizens who moved to refugee camps in Israel following their “expulsion” from other Middle Eastern states around 1948?
As ever the whole picture is rarely portrayed when it comes to the “Palestinians”
The main point is what the Gramscis and BBC omit , that the mass movement of humanity from one part of the globe to another – apart from the USA for a limited period – is not a peaceful event .”
But for the BBC , Marxists of various hues and ilks, movement and mixing of people of varying cultures is good. the more antagonistic the cultures the better, as it all fits in the scheme to force a one world government. Unfortunately for the BBC and Marxists, they will have die-hard oppostion from those who have endured/recoverd from full blown Marxism – Russia and Eastern Euope, China, Vietnam, Cambodia etc.
Its not surprsing that the BBC has fallen out with Russia and Eastern Europe. From being comrades for decades, they have become the extreme Right wing.
The bBC’s lucy Williamson does a report from Calais regards the African immigrants camped out there wanting to come to the Uk. Yes the very people the liberals say we should open our borders to no questions asked interviews Mohammed from Darfur.
Sudanese corner of a migrant camp in Calais
Anybody else notice the scarf and black long coat she is wearing, do you think it looks like a burka and why the scarf? could it be so as not to cause offence to these pious Muslims, who subscribe to an ideology which is against everything we in the West hold dear.
Yet the liberals still feel we (the peoples of the west) are the real bigots and not these people who (As shown in the film) do not conform to our values and standards.