I can see that the AFTERMATH thread is overflowing. So, here’s a new one. BBC still distraught and have decided it is timely to hype up Conservative splits over the EU as well as continuing to pander to the irrelevance of the SNP. The floor is yours…
NEW OPEN THREAD…
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say it loud and say it proud…….
Bollox to the beeb
While Cameron deals with the mundane stuff of actually forming a government the big political story for the BBC is who is going to lead Labour.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election/2015
That says it all.
Well, they do have a few other stories too:
‘the big political story for the BBC is who is going to lead Labour’
BBC News
2 hrs ·
The last British PM to win with a majority smaller than David Cameron’s was Harold Wilson, with 3 #BBCGoFigure #GE2015
See… balance.
Yes and it’s getting boring.
Well I never, and I was under the impression they were unbiased !
They lost the election now they riot. BBC describes an anti austerity protest but it was really violence from a bunch of thugs.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2015-32678518
The Met described it as an unplanned anti-austerity protest close to Downing Street.
Unplanned my arse. Every detail was planned and instructions were posted on Facebook and Twitter. Trouble is the Met sit on their fat arses looking for tweets offensive to Muslims and cannot be fagged to acknowledge warnings regarding attacks on the Cenotaph and Downing Street.
The plans for the violent demonstration were widely published. See here.
Expect us UK
May 8 at 6:41pm · Edited ·
ok guys plan for tomorrow is as follows
12.30-1300 meet at parliament SQ and hopefully rally Occupy Democracy to join us.
1300 – 13.15 we march to downing street.
1315-1430 we will make our stand at downing street make some noise and show them our level of discontent.
1430-1530. we will march via an undisclosed route to join London Black Revs in solidarity at the tory HQ at 4 Matthew Parker St, Westminster.
if you have a mega-phone then please inbox us also please bring banners signs drums whistles and anything else to make noise and show we are pissed off
looking forward to standing with you all lets rock them
GIVE US BACK OUR BALL
and yet al Beeba didn’t think this earlier and larger protest needed coverage
http://www.itv.com/news/london/story/2015-02-08/muslim-protests-against-charlie-hebdo-in-london/
Funny that.
Since there was no obvious way of spinning this as an anti-Conservative (or, even better, anti-Ukip) item, it is, of course, “Not News”.
On the same topic as G.W.F above.
History repeats itself. The fascist mind-set of the left is revealing itself again not two days after he people have spoken. Or the consequences of the trajectory of the left mind-set: the young, corralled into activist branches (HopenotHate, SWP, London Black Revolutionaries [who?]) and their activities. The BBC reports their protest and the defaced war memorial:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2015-32678518
Also, Breitbart has further information:
http://www.breitbart.com/london/2015/05/09/pictures-silly-socialists-still-think-they-matter-as-they-stage-protest-outside-conservative-central-office/
So the self-proclaimed owners of morality, equality and diversity have devised an “Anti-Tory manifesto”. It is grim reading. National Socialists have used these methods before. Any young person associating with this warped mentality, take note, and reject it for the fascism that it is.
1. If you see a Tory, pin a rosette on them so we know who to kick in the street.
2. Never shake hands with a Tory.
3. Never buy or accept a drink from a Tory.
4. If one of your friends is a Tory, de-friend them and encourage your other friends to do the same.
5. If you meet a Tory in public, name and shame them.
6. If you know a Tory at work, start a campaign to get them fired from their job.
7. If your boss or teacher is a Tory, expose them to your colleagues and demand they leave their post on the grounds of moral incompetence……
The list goes on. This would probably turn quickly into a “How to lose friends and a job Manifesto” if it were adopted by any of these idiots, but it shows how Nazi values are returning, evolving in the moral vacuum of left wing thinking. In this case stigmatising citizens who are ‘Tories’. As to what constitutes a ‘Tory’, I can but speculate. Is it someone who votes for the Conservative Party? Or someone who openly expresses views contrary to ‘left wing’ views? Either way, the ‘manifesto’ is a disturbed manifestation.
But the left always attempt to avoid seeing individuals, in favour of seeing ‘groups’. It’s a dehumanising technique. Women, the young, the old, Muslim community, Immigrants, the rich, the poor, healthcare workers, LGBT, BME, the list seems endless. And I guess they also see groups in political terms. Black and white pseudo-political terms, left = good, right = bad.
To demonstrate the point (for MOCO and others hard of thinking), I have picked a few of the subgroup names used by ‘the left’, and used them in these example extracts from alternative fascist manifestos, based exactly on the proforma of our ‘leftist’ moral guardians. See if you can see the problem:
1. If you see a Jew, pin a rosette on them so we know who to kick in the street.
2. Never shake hands with a Jew.
Or another subgroup, perhaps:
3. Never buy or accept a drink from a BME.
4. If one of your friends is a BME, de-friend them and encourage your other friends to do the same.
Or others:
5. If you meet a Muslim in public, name and shame them.
6. If you know a Christian at work, start a campaign to get them fired from their job.
And a last one:
7. If your boss or teacher is a homosexual, expose them to your colleagues and demand they leave their post on the grounds of moral incompetence……
Are these idiots at HnH, SWP, etc. just that? Idiots? Do they ever look in a mirror, or question themselves? What if they meet a black, lesbian Tory? Stigmatise or applaud? When ‘moral rules’ are inconsistent and not universal, they are by definition, not moral rules. But then again, when have socialists ever sought recourse to morality in their quest for power and other people’s property?
This manifestation of the self-righteousness, anti-democratic and dangerous ignorance of the fascist left and their BBC apologists makes me sick. And angry.
perfectly summed up
It is indeed!
Everyone, almost without exception, is happy to treat a BNP member that way. BNP members are forbidden in many occupations, the prison service for example, by government edict.
If we are to believe in fairness it should be fairness for all.
I wouldn’t treat a BNP member that way. The BNP is a legal political party, and I find the banning of people from employment because of their political opinions abhorrent. The state vilifies the BNP, despite it having no political clout and despite trying Nick Griffin for talking about the Rochdale grooming. Same approach as jailing Tommy Robinson for mortgage application fraud, then releasing him subject to him not attending any political events. That said, It saddens me that HnH and UAF remain legal, as violence is at the core of their modus operandi.
You are right of course. Anyone who is a member of a political party and especially an extremist party should be excluded from state employment.
OTOH, being a member of the BNP, SWP, HnH, UAF etc. shows such a lack of critical thinking that their employment prospects would be very limited. So maybe the less taxing end of state employment, say toilet cleaning etc., should be open to them?
and the left are considering “nice” while the right evil. I’m guessing all of the middle class privileged ones causing trouble got their ideas from school and university so as always teachers brainwashing children into hating. Scary
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3074951/Socialist-siege-Downing-Street-Hard-left-activists-clash-police-following-David-Cameron-s-triumphant-return-Number-10.html
They and most of the media run by the Jewish element, and have been doing so for many years-linked with the banking elitists in Europe who in turn control the EU & subsequently us.
How’s that tin-foil hat working out for ya..?
he does have a point though. transnational jews do have a little bit too much control of the media. If muslims controlled what the jews controlled, i dont think ppl would be very happy. Why should we give jews a free pass? oh right the holohoax, Sorry!!!!!
http://davidduke.com/proof-jewish-zionist-takeover-british-tv-services/
‘…meet at parliament SQ and hopefully rally Occupy Democracy to join us.’
‘Occupy Democracy’. Translation: ‘You don’t need democracy because we know what’s best for you.’
Well spotted!
Already the BBC is talking about the coming anti-Tory backlash
“Plaid Cymru’s former chair Helen Mary Jones has admitted the party will have a tough fight with Welsh Labour to take advantage of any anti-Tory backlash in the 2016 assembly election.”
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2015-wales-32681146
Plaid will have a tough fight to overtake UKIP in Wales let alone Labour!
“The Ulster Unionists were the only party in Northern Ireland to make gains in the general election.”
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2015-northern-ireland-32653373
Yes but you could also say every Unionist party increased its share of the vote, while the share for every Nationalist party declined.
Hey BBC, good job focussing so much in the NI leaders’ debate on the vital issue of gay marriage – how did that turn out then? 😉
To see the hard left spitting and snarling in the streets is a joy to behold, perhaps it will take years off their lives and coronary attacks will abound all round.
The hard left showing their true fascist colours in all it’s naked anti democratic glory.
The BBC referring to it as an anti austerity demonstration.. and so they blindly continue in their metropolitan self centred naval gazing hubris.
BBBC has been holding a joint TV /Radio 5 debate trying to find out what ordinary (selected) voters thought about the election. Doing the Labour party job for them.
3.30 in the morning Radio 4 has a show called On Balance or some such . And on balance the talking heads think leaving the EU would not be a Good Thing . But they were balanced about it mind , as one thinks it would be mildly catastrophic whereas others thought it would be a loser all round , with the usual rubbish about ” influence ” being lost etc .
Then later on their religious show they talked about the election and how UKIP nearly to ivied it because of immigration . They didn’t have a UKIP spokesman there , as there’s no need to when the talking heads were so wise , and know what should be on the political agenda and what shouldn’t in an election .
Democracy is nasty when populism is allowed ie what the people want is what they get . Everyone must agree with that , which must make it populist !?
UKIP come in third.
Poll-axed lefties sense no threats.
Ting a ling a loo…
Dedicated to UKIP Haiku San…with a nod to Benny Hill.
Ting a ling a loo…
Flip side to Benny Hill’s Ernie, IIRC !
ChrisH-san. Many Thanks.
A haiku for you, entitled: Russell. The Brand of ‘Right on’ Lefties.
Listen Russell Brand!
The Establishment is you.
Yet you don’t get that?
And another, for our young:
Rotherham.
A Labour Council.
The Jay report’s a hard read.
Those poor Yorkshire girls.
Reckon you`ve a great kids book here UKIP-san.
Wonder if Nigel`s any good at illustrations-bet he knows someone!
Well done Mark sir…it`s that common culture we all share that will stuff the Lefty whordes,before we fillet them on Milibands Stone of Destiny!
That fool Tristan Hunt (have I spelled that right?) is standing for leader of the Labour Party. They might be stupid enough to vote him in. The result would be Labour descending into the wilderness even further. can you imagine him v Cameron at PMQs or worse his keynote speech. Anyway he has got my vote.
Tristram Hunt eh?
Another toff like Harriet Harman then?
Should work really well in Barnsley as ever.
Even the Labour luvvies at the BBC don`t know one nomark from another in the paperweight division of lefty shadow boxing.
And none of us will ever need to know either.
Bristol Stool Pigeon Index?…not even raising a trouser cough, by my readings.
Oh joy-Labour a Supreme Irrelevance,Liberals haven`t even enough MPs to register a 10% quorum to run an election.
Turn your radios off-or just “Listen To the Music”.
Today we can all be Doobie Brothers…or cis-sistas if you like !
Liam Byrne …another son of Ireland finishes Labour off better than James Connolly
Byrning love!
yes another millionaire toff socialist to denigrate the people. love em.
Mmm looks like there is about to be another of the ‘Too many Tristrams at the BBC.’!!
P.S. Yes it’s spelled incorrectly, the surname is spelled with a ‘C’
It’s spelled with C I think
Even better, Chuka Umanna, all suit and no substance. Dear Labour, please please please vote Chuka as your new leader so the rest of us can watch Labour disappear into the abyss.
MY thoughts exactly!
The extremist Globalists in the Labour party are wetting themselves at the thought of Chuka, so metrosexual, so black (but still light enough to be good looking), almost Obamesiah like.
Then bring on Tristian Hunt & let’s see this out of date short sighted political party run for the corner and hide. Likely it will split into 2 as a new social demo styled development.
Jon Snow on fridays CH4 News in funeral mode, he looked as if his dog had died.
Another meltdown-a casualty of national warming…
Good Mourning Lefy Scummards like the Snowjobbie!
Faces like slapped arses as I said on Thursday-comedy gold, gifts keep giving.
How they`d LOVE to tell their license fee sponges that we`re all thick, wrong and now we`ve made them sad.
But they`ll have to repress it, politely-like nurse and nanny trained them up to do.
Oh dear-no prospect of closure, just a gathering storm of UKIP and Conservative souls who`ve been shafted, sneered at, threatened, mocked and hated by them all now since Thatcher let them off.
Now wonder Snows a melting…a public sector fat cat pimp since Jeremy Isaacs lent him the dead mans shoes of better journalists, better people.
Let`s win this one for the UKIpper…God Bless you Mr Reagan!
Watching the Election results was a bit like seeing your mother in law drive over a cliff in a Ferrari, one had mixed emotions, one was happy that Liebour got obliterated in Scotland, the sanctimonious Liberals destroyed, Ed Balls and George Galloway decapitated, but then UKIP was shafted by the corporate media and the voting system, they would’ve got 85 MPs under PR. Doesn’t seem fair.
The current voting system might seem unfair to you, however, the fact is the following:
1. Each constituency in the country votes for whoever has decided to stand in THEIR constituency.
2. The person who gains the most votes in this seat will win
3. Anyone who comes in 2nd, 3rd, 4th etc will win nothing, which is obviously the correct result
That is democracy in action, I can under the existing system vote for anyone who is on the list of candidates in my constituency, what is democratic about being forced to vote only for your preferred party, and then waiting to find out who on their list of national candidates you end up with?
PR does not work, it would mean the end of hustings, knowing who your candidate is, knowing that they live in your area and therefore understanding the local issues.
No, far better would be that UKIP stop crying and attempt to convert their 2nd and 3rd places into 1st places.
Yes but you miss the vital point that all seats do not consist of equal populations but do share equal weighting. Thus you have an absurd situation where seats like the Western Isles which has a population of 26, 000 receives parity with a seat in say, north east London which is made up of hundreds and thousands of the vote-share. This is why the SNP has received so many seats; one man and his sheep practically makes up a seat in the highlands!
The constituency boundary changes prevented by Nick Clegg should make an early appearance in this Parliament and will reduce the number of MPs from 650 to 600, each having the same number of voters. Problem solved!
Spot on! I’ve seen somewhere today a graphic (might have been by the Electoral Reform Society) which projected the results of the last election under a PR system. The results were hopeless, the Tories still came top (just) but all the other parties were only a bit behind them. So instead of a clear mandate to govern there would have been endless squabbling, deal-making and total deadlock! UKIP, the SNP, the Greens, Plaid Cymru (and for that matter the Labour Party), may have a couple of stars at the top but by God they’ve got some self-serving dross underneath!
You have spotted the major problem with PR.
Italy tried it and then dropped it.
Perpetual coalitions with say the two loony green votes required to squeeze over the line demanding some of their policies are enacted.
You also have to have large constituencies with say 10 M.P.s selected of the party list in order that the party selects them.
No voting for a good or against a bad M.P. Little local connection. Which of the 10 do you write to with your problem?
I’ve yet to be persuaded either way but you must admit there is a clear democratic deficit in the current arrangement, where the SNP is massively over-represented and UKIP quite the reverse.
Under PR we would have had a Tory/UKIP coalition, (which I would have loved), so the lefties screaming about unfairness that only 38% of the public voted tory would be even more upset by the result.
What I like about FPTP is that it is easier for the party with most votes to form a Government and enact the whole of their manifesto. We know what we are voting for. As we saw with the last coalition and with the uncertainty leading up to the poll last Thursday, we had no idea which policies would be scrapped to make up a coalition. Coalitions give their MPs a wonderful excuse to lie and dissapoint voters, by dropping popular policies and enacting awful ones.
PR delivers MPs who then have a FPTP race to see who forms the government which then gets its way on everything – usually.
“Watching the Election results was a bit like seeing your mother in law drive over a cliff in a Ferrari”
Exactly – or a Ford Focus in Cornwall, for instance.
Ooops, too much information.
Ah the old park on an incline with a nice high view and slip of the handbrake whilst she sleeps ploy eh?
Defective handbrake.
That’s my story and I’m sticking to it.
And I forgot to say ….. she worked for the BBC.
LIVE: Election fallout: Sturgeon, Umunna etc
Fallout? As in this meaning of the word ‘the adverse side effects or results of a situation’
They could of course of used a more neutral word such as ‘latest’ or ‘review’ but fallout it is as this hasn’t been a good election for the BBC, the ‘adverse side effects’ being;
1. A Tory government
2. Not a Labour one
3. An EU referendum
4. No split up of the UK
5. Ed and Clegg gone with their parties about to self destruct
6. BBC license fee in the balance….
‘Fallout’ indeed….
Radio 4’s flagship weekend news programme? Utterly obsessed by Labour and ‘what happens next?’
The BBC has suffered a major blow in this election and can’t understand why it happened.
Maybe they should spend more time reading this website?
Even worms like Clive Anderson seem to know the game is up.
On BH today, he managed to get in a few barbs at the BBC-and Paddy O Connell( no Liam Byrne he) besmirched his Oirish name by siding with his paymasters at the Beeb.
Still-I heard it-and there is clearly pain there at the BBC-Jon Snow spoke for all the chattering classes on HIGNFY.
But it`s not ours-we bloody KNEW we were right.
Enjoy the suttee, self-immolation, self abuse and sheer oafish off piste musings of the political class, before we send them off to SavileLand.
Go to Rotherham, turn left, head for mid-Staffs…Milibands stone can cap the landfill we`ll be needing for these popinjays and poltroons.
Just watching Al Beeb’s V E 70 celebrations . Not many ‘effnicks’ there in the crowds around or on set. This is a bit different to last night’s entertainment where there was a liberal sprinkling of ‘effnicks’ amongst the artists on stage portraying the service men of that time. A bit more of Al Beeb’s subtle bias anyone?
Caught the tail-end of this.
Al Murray was on there FFS, and d’you know what, he isn’t the sweaty common oik he pretends to be! I’m beginning to wonder if his pub landlord act is just another middle-class leftie taking the p… out of ordinary working-class whites.
From Wikipedia
Al Murray was born at Stewkley, Buckinghamshire, only son of Lieut-Col. Ingram Bernard Hay Murray (a great-great-great-great-grandson of John, 3rd Duke of Atholl, who married Charlotte, Baroness Strange), by his wife Juliet Anne Thackeray, née Ritchie (a great-great-granddaughter of the celebrated novelist William Makepeace Thackeray).[2] His grandfather, the former British ambassador Sir Ralph Murray,[3] was from Scottish aristocracy and married into the von Kuenburg family,[4] nobility of the Holy Roman Empire. His patrilineal great-great-grandfather, Dr George Murray, was Bishop of Rochester,[5] while Sir Edward Leigh MP is his third cousin.[6] Al Murray is in remainder both to English and Scottish peerage titles, including the barony of Strange and the dukedom of Atholl.[7]
Murray was educated at Bedford School (head boy)[8] and St Edmund Hall, Oxford, where he read Modern History.[9]
What on earth leads you to think he’s not all he pretends to be?
Al Murray has certainly blown his “pub landlord” character.
If he had stayed in character he’d have been supporting Nigel instead of trying to sabotage his campaign. The only way his “pub landlord” would have been anti-UKIP would have been if the Tory brewery owner had insisted he try to split the UKIP vote. So he’s either a tool of the brewery or just a tool.
He looked like a complete t*sser at the count. Glad to see him lose his deposit – surely a bit embarrassing for a famous TV comedian.
I couldn’t understand why Nigel let the tw@t stand next to him.
He is a pound shop-alf garnett. Just as Warren Mitchell was taking the piss out of real life Alf Garnett’s, Alastair James Hay Murray uses the Al Murray character to take the piss out of the salt of the earth, patriotic working class.
Murray was born at Stewkley, Buckinghamshire, only son of Lieut-Col. Ingram Bernard Hay Murray (a great-great-great-great-grandson of John, 3rd Duke of Atholl, who married Charlotte, Baroness Strange), by his wife Juliet Anne Thackeray, née Ritchie (a great-great-granddaughter of the celebrated novelist William Makepeace Thackeray). His grandfather, the former British ambassador Sir Ralph Murray, was from Scottish aristocracy and married into the von Kuenburg family, nobility of the Holy Roman Empire. His patrilineal great-great-grandfather, Dr George Murray, was Bishop of Rochester, while Sir Edward Leigh MP is his third cousin. Al Murray is in remainder both to English and Scottish peerage titles, including the barony of Strange and the dukedom of Atholl
He is as working class, as as any coalface coalminer is a millionaire Lord.
He is a pound shop-alf garnett. Just as Warren Mitchell was taking the piss out of real life Alf Garnett’s…
Spot on, Geyza. I read an interview with him some time ago and he admitted to exactly that – satirising the ‘bigotry’, ‘misogyny’, ‘racism’, ‘jingosim’ etc of Little Englanders.
The trouble for Murray is I think his audiences are laughing with the Pub Landlord rather than at him, so it all nicely backfires.
He’s another fine example of sneering leftie comedy, smug in his own self-righteousness but living in a bubble of delusion through a chronic lack of real-world awareness.
The new government needs to grasp the bbc weed, and pull it out once and for all. Yes, in the short term there will be a lot of kicking and screaming going on. But we all know how much it will be worth it in the long run.
Here is what I would do.
Give Ofcom the power to deal with complaints. With immediate effect.
Disband the bbc trust, and replace it with a commission that will over see the government’s plans for it to eventually become self sufficient.
One of those plans would be to have the license fee phased out over the next five years, and gradually replaced by ‘ Pay Per View’ and advertising.
An investigation into the salaries given to the top executives in the bbc.
An investigation into the amount of money thats waisted by the bbc. Part of that would mean that expenses need to be slashed eg.. Free taxis, the number of foreign corrispondents must be cut, the amount of freebees to Glastonbury, etc, etc.
A root and branch investigation into institusional left wing bias.
A rule that all journalists that are employed must come from all backgrounds and papers. Not just the left wing guardian.
Thats just some of the proposals that i can think of.
I disagree, that is much too gradualist and allows for years of office politicing and fightback. The reaction of the BBC to the Conservative victory – oozing and foaming slime in torment like a slug that has run across a lump of rock salt* – demonstrates just how urgent a full and absolute reform of the BBC is.
My fantasy plan would be that in the next nine months the State ……
1) Offers for sale by auction time limited rights to the BBC archive and back catalogue in defined lots
2) Auctions the BBC transmission networks and their bandwidth on the basis of 10 year leases. (The state retains the national infrastructure)
3) Offers BBC1, 2, 3 and 4 and its radio stations (incl black and asian minority interest channels) as going concerns for public floatation. Unsold entities are broken up and assets sold off.
4) Seek buyers for the other BBC channels including all regional TV and Radio on the same basis.
5) Sell off the BBC web entity as a stand alone feature
6) Allow the Scottish government – with no subsidy for Gaelic – to buy BBC Scotland TV and Radio as propaganda channels playing bagpipe / accordion music interspersed with rants about William Wallace, Rob Roy and heroin addiction.
7) Ditto BBC Cymru
8) Sell the BBC world Service to anyone who will have it, if there are no bids shut it down.
9) Sell off the BBC administrative property portfolio
10) Redundancy payments on the national minimum to be funded from the proceeds of sales.
11) Jeremy Hardy, the ‘Now Show” Marcus Brigstock, Joe Brand, Wossie et al to be subject to special ‘windfall taxation’ on the proceeds of their BBC sinecures for the last 25 years – Labour though that this was fair enough for energy companies when they got into power – hit my dividends badly!
All governed by a new Offcom where, to avoid conflicts of interest no (former) BBC employees or people who have represented / been members of any political factions in the last ten years can be members.
It will be up to the new owners of these assets to determine what they transmit subject to Ofcom and how it is funded – there will be no public subsidy whatsoever, no tax breaks or any preferential treatment. Some caveats will be the right of the state to insist on emergency messaging facilities and the ability to censor transmissions in time of war (Anyone remember the BBC telling the Argentines that their bombs were not fused properly to explode in our ships?) and that no one group or funding body can own more than 30% of the overall UK media footprint.
The band width leases alone is probably worth billions a year, the net proceeds should be ring fenced for paying down existing government debt. Income from debts and leases etc should also be ring fenced to pay down debt and must never be allowed to fund general expenditure.
*Sunday World at One!!!!!
I particularly like your suggestion at 11) – but could we also include all those at the BBC who worked for and were paid by a private company whilst the majority of their work was for the Beeb solely to avoid paying tax – Fiona Bruce for example. I think extra tax for those Beeboids who were avoiding tax (I know avoiding tax is legal but when Miliband wanted to go after avoiders the left-leaning Beeb couldn’t be bothered to point it out). What these beeboids was doing was evasion and I think they should have to pay it back.
Step one, for immediate action – decriminalise non-payment of the TV Tax.
Yes, that is eminently achievable quickly and will put manners on the Beeb.
Marvellous set of proposals.
Absolutely amazing. It’s akin to the lefty philosophy.
Ding! Ding! Ding! Cameron has been in office for 5 years. Since when:-
The BBC has been allowed to run riot
Immigation has increased over and above even the insane levels reached under Blair and Brown
The national debt has DOUBLED. That’s right, in 5 years Osborne has racked up more debt than all previous governments since 1694 combined.
House prices have increased from already ridiculous levels.
And people think things are going to change.
If it wasn’t so serious it would be funny. Wake up please.
“The national debt has DOUBLED. That’s right, in 5 years Osborne has racked up more debt than all previous governments since 1694 combined.”
You were doing so well until you trotted this old canard out.
The national debt has not doubled in 5 years, but has had several hundred billion added to it.
If you inherit a complete balls up where the departing government was borrowing £200bn to cover the gap between income and expenditure, it is rather tricky to reduce that gap to zero overnight, which means however much you borrow each year gets added to the national debt.
Latest plan is to remove the current account deficit by 2019. Little Ed’s plan was to do it sometime never. So under (presumably) your friends plan the national debt was planned to be larger in 2020 than under the Tories, yet I bet you voted for it!
Wake up please!
And what of different Alan’s other points ?
Alan’s right Dihmi Dave will deliver no of the things you hope he will nor any of those he has promised but many he hasn’t told you of yet.
The National Debt has doubled though.
Really?
National debt 2010 £0.76trillion. 2015 projected £1.36 trillion.
Having done GCE Maths many years ago that is not doubled by my calculation, but modern maths may be different.
We can of course trim back its growth over the next few years by ending pensioner bus passes, winter fuel payments, free TV licences for the over 75s, ending benefits payments for more than two children etc, but it can be very difficult persuading vested interests with a vote that it is for the good of the country!
Brings us nicely on to one of the questions the BBC never asked Balls:
‘You have just criticised the coalition for increasing the national debt over the past 5 years yet you have opposed just about every cut they’ve made to public spending. So exactly what is your policy regarding the national debt – reduce it or increase it?’
I disagree with “pay-per-view” and advertising on the BBC as it would be entirely un-necessary if the BBC was broken up into focused packages (BBC sport, BBC news & current affiars, BBC light entertainment, BBC drama, BBC films, BBC nature & science… etc.) and then had each of those as subscription services. They should be able to generate enough money to fund a free, genuinely impartial “BBC public service” channel.
Offcom dealing with complaints that is a joke ! In a particularly nasty and hateful programme against Israel and USA in 2005 on Channel 5 Prof Honrich called for “Civil disobedience to change British foreign policy ” Offcom’s ruling was ” Professor Honrich only meant it in a metaphorical sense ” Another example of Offcom’s ruling I published here before but worth repeating – On a Channel 4 drama a photo that was said to show the massacre of Palestinians by Israeli forces was actually the Halabja massacre of Kurdish people and an apology was made and Offcom ruled ” it is certainly regrettable that a photograph of the Halabja massacre was used as a prop to the drama. Offcom went along with Channel 4’s deception that there was a photo of such a massacre !! “…….We welcome Channel 4’s apology and action to obscure the image in any repeat of the broadcast. We consider the matter resolved.” See details at http://netanyalynette.blogspot.co.il/2012/08/kurdish-viewers-complaint-about-photo.html.
Bliar was extremely cute by ensuring Labour placemen were put in charge of all strategic roles including OFCOM. The Cons did zilch in the last term to do anything to change this and they’re still there and still recruiting more of their buddies into important positions; Purnell in the BBC.
How stupid can you get. OFCOM is an extension of Labour and therefore and extension of the lefty media. You’ll get no change there.
They’re everywhere from the Courts, Police to the lowliest functionaries in the civil service.
Francis Maude has been appointed to “facilitate” the change of intransigence of immovable objects in the civil service.
Sunday Politics: ” 2 guardian columists, One of them Toynbee. Why the hell has she still got a job?
Every bloody time I’ve flicked over to the BBC, this morning, I have been confronted with YET MORE inconsolable BBC journalists pining over Labour’s demise. It is beyond belief; we are all coerced into funding this rancid drivel and I for one am sick and tired of the endless commiserations dribbling from the BBC’s journalists and reporters who still fail to understand that the UK REJECTED UNAMBIGuOUSLY the pathetic far-Left socialist twaddle emanated from Milliband.
The BBC focus this weekend has been on what should have been and what might be within the Labour camp; they seem to have forgotten that the Conservatives won a majority and that UKIP almost received 4 million votes. Disgraceful.
A small group of upper-class lefties have commandeered the BBC; as a result the populace were led to believe that Labour were on course to form a coalition. And even after the pollsters have been exposed as useless the BBC is still acting as if the majority have somehow been duped. I pray that the Conservatives prune this foul hive of lefty scum.
Well said, exactly how I feel – TV and Radio in full solemn music mode. They have even exhumed the dire old trout Shirley Williams to spew her ‘analysis’ on R4. As someone said on this site earlier.
1) The SNP victory / Labour annihilation in Scotland had no net impact on the Tory majority. The Tories garnered more votes
2) Tories won seats in droves from the Lib Dems – they were roundly rejected
3) Labour votes migrated in droves to the criminally under represented UKIP.
4) Labour failed to make any gains in Tory marginals
5) The SNP made its intention to demand more goodies from a Labour coalition abundantly clear m- this wasn ot a Tory black-opps exercise
Labour and the left lost the election comprehensively. W T F can the BBC not report this as a fact!!!!
Been a veritable fly past of the BBCs favourite pensioners hasn`t it?
Shirley Williams, Paddy Ashdown, Neil Kinnock, David Steel, Michale Heseltine and Ken Clarke.
Party like its 1979 eh?…and the buggers all lost then too!
A load of superannuated blimps and barrage balloons who refuse to do anything so menial as act as a Thames barrier-or something useful to we who suffer these windbags who aspire to being balloons.
Not even as useful as sandbags-yet the BBC are happy to festoon their zimmer frames with gay balloons and pretend it`s one long party.
I`d call it a wake, if they actually were…but the BBC never get Tebbit out to put them straight.
The coming right will yet thank Shirley Williams-every time the old boar trots along for the Horlicks on offer, the Right can only rejoice that Thatcher saw her off for all our sakes.
PS-why no David Owen, who at least WAS a doctor, as well as a man who split the rotten redwood of Labour?
I was coming on to post the same thing – from Broadcasting House to last night’s news, the BBC’s whole focus has been on how Labour will rebrand itself. The Beeb cannot understand that the majority of the country did not want a government with Labour values. The whole discussion on the radio and tv has been with has-been Labour politicians about returning to the centre ground – to make them electable again – this was exactly what Blair did to Labour pre 1997. At the time I was pointing out that all he was doing was changing Labour’s window dressing and not their core beliefs purely to attain power. They were wolves in sheeps clothing then and with the Beeb’s help it is where Labour will go again.
Now I know some on this site are Ukippers – but Auntie has not once addressed the possibility that maybe the electorate may have actually wanted a Conservative government (or maybe just right-wing).
I think i heard Beckett say that they were not telling the electorate the right thing.
Actualy they were always telling the electorate but they never listened to the reply. typical Labour.
‘Beness’ that was my post – (going to be) .
All the politicians need to do, is listen to the electorate – an easy winner .
Simples !
So now the labour leadership hopefuls are now saying that they need to show that they do not hate the rich, and supporting the aspirational working and middle classes was what was at the heart of labour all along!
Utter bullshit. If they re-brand to be in support of the “aspirational”, then they would be lying. If anyone had asked any of the candidates about supporting aspirational supporting policies, they would have rubbished them only one week ago. Re-branding is putting a new-false image on their vile carcass, just as Blair, Mandelson, Campbell did in the mid 1990s. The country has seen through such blatant falsehood and rejected it, as it would again.
There is no need for another centre right, pro-aspirational party. We already have the tories and UKIP for that.
Well said and like you, I join with millions of others in supporting a block on paying the licence fee until we are clearly informed as to where this tax is being spent. Seemingly as was seen over the Election week-end far too many presenters and reportors on the pay roll-why was I not involved ?
Labour need to take a long hard look at the trade unions. Serwotka and Mc Cluskey need to look at them selves.
Unioin members have been loosing their long term jobs and are being replaced by agency workers.
Most of these agency workers will not be paid up union members so in effect they are killing off their own wages in the long run.
Their ideology is killing the working man/woman who belongs to a union. Maybee they have enough money in the bank personaly as to not worry about the very people they claim to represent.
Just arrived at my 92 year old mums house to check she was ok only to discover she had been crying, and when i asked her why she had been crying she said it was because someone had painted on a newly erected war memorial the words ”Tory scum”..
The memorial was for women who had lost there lives during the second world war.My mum served in the Second world war as a signaler based in London with her sister,a sister who died in an air raid.
It is f…..g disgraceful that these retarded lefty commy bastards can get away with what they do, and from what i can gather union and Labour representative were present at this demonstration against austerity and the Conservatives.
Of course no one will be charged with this appalling act because it is not politically correct to do so.
I genuinely hope the people who did this will rot in hell
I was upset to hear of your mum’s distress, but I think the scum that desecrated the memorial will be on CCTV and Mr Gove will not forgive them. Please tell your mum that they will be dealt with. Remember Charlie Gilmore, millionaire class warrior, last time this happened
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2015110/Pink-Floyds-David-Gilmours-son-Charlie-jailed-16-months-LSD-rampage.html
“I have no doubt you felt strongly about the legislation regarding student fees, but what you did went far, far beyond proper protest.’
Gilmour was wide-eyed in shock as he was led away by a prison officer, while his mother, writer Polly Samson, sobbed.Later, she and her rock star husband, who is worth an estimated £78million, hugged their son’s university friends, many of whom shook with emotion.
During the hearing, Gilmour’s lawyer wheeled out no fewer than 13 character references, many from ‘very distinguished’ members of society, including BBC boss Alan Yentob and the chief executive of the homeless charity Crisis. “
..CCE..
Thanks for the kind words. My mother is completely non political and really dos’nt care who is in power and in her words ”they are all the same”. It was the physical act of doing what they did not the comment.
Anyway, she is feeling a lot better, just cooked her Sunday lunch
All the best. My parents would have been of the same age. Got my Grandfathers first world war medals.
I appreciate what they went through.
I feel for your mum, my Dad would also have been 92, the disconnect of these young scumbags to that generation is so immense and that disrespect exists because of the lefty preaching and nudging by our educational establishments and the dilution of our culture.
Even though the First World War had ended 50 years before I was born, it still seemed ‘fresh’ to me possibly because , like yourself I was born to parents who had experienced WW2, but also Grandparents who had experienced WW1. A late arrival, my Dad was 48 when I was born and his father died when he was just 9 months old from the effects of gassing, he was an Old Contemptible and I prize his Mons Star.
Its because of being so close to those generations that I feel so passionate about the destruction of the country that they fought so valiantly for and do wonder if my (and our) generation is really the last that cares.
There is still hope, don’t let your Mum forget that!
Geoff…..
What upsets me about these scumbags is the fact that if it wasnt for the likes of our parents and grandparents they possibly wouldnt have been in the position to behave the way they do, free speech is magnificent and should be appreciated. Some people’s around the world would give there right arm for that privilege
scumbags indeed, listen to the rhetoric thats always aimed at them, ie casual rascists, insulated from austerity, supported by the taxes of the working poor, they dont deserve a bus pass etc etc etc etc
these are the people who went through real austerity, real hardship, real war, people who sacrificed everything and if they hadnt you would be swinging from a European made rope for even daring to walk down the street with a placard.
Why we waste vast sums educating these morons is beyond me
Unfortunately, it will probably be quite a while before they get there, and there’s plenty more damage to be done…
Alun-Yes it is a disgrace. I’m sorry your mum was upset. God bless her and all the others who fought for us.
every person i know on low wages has seen their wages stagnate or get lower, these are all related to two things
1 tax credits allow employers to offer people less because the tax payer will make up the difference.
2 there is over supply in the low end of the job market, take the £6.50 or an immigrant will.
These have been given to us by B-liar and Brown and the aspirational supporting lefties. We the working not shirking man have shouldered the cost of their policies and now we have had enough, looking forward to the return of Nigel Farage after a good rest, Nigel your country needs you.
When I was a school we did 18th Century history and one of the topics covered was the Speenhamland System. It was a way of using ratepayers money to subsidise low paid workers. It was started with the best of intentions but rapidly became a subsidy for employers, who could pay lower wages. Tax Credits are the same system with a different badge. But New Labour never did pay any attention to history.
For anyone interested there is a good account of it here:
http://www.victorianweb.org/history/poorlaw/speen.html
“One of the effects of the Speenhamland System was that ratepayers often found themselves subsidising the owners of large estates who paid poor wages. It was not unknown for landowners to demolish empty houses in order to reduce the population on their lands and also to prevent the return of those who had left. At the same time, they would employ labourers from neighbouring parishes: these people could be laid off without warning but would not increase the rates in the parish where they worked. Farmers often were the same men who paid low wages and laid off workers; consequently, subsidising wages through poor relief drove wages down even further. What was intended as a safety net ended up causing many more problems.”
desperatedan the reality is not that tax credits has created this but rather the over-supply of un-skilled/semi-skilled labour from E. Europe has created this. Its called wage contraction driven by supply and demand.
In what should have been a closed job market, as business started to expand so the available employable labour would have started to dry up and driven wages up. This didn’t happen because hundreds of thousands of immigrants came in and just kept the jobless rate static.
Big business loves the situation and will fight against any move to leave the EU. The lower the wages the greater the profit. Trust me I have very real personal experience of this. My employer told me to my face; don’t like the wages I am paying; there’s the door; there are 10 Pols waiting to take your job.
Dateline London-a BBC bit of crap-is on as I write.
Five people including the Beeb “chairman” who hosts it.
Only one called it all right-a fine woman of a certain age called Janet Daley of the Sunday Telegraph.
All the rest-Owen Jones, a Marc Roche(Le Soir) and someone else-all fizzing and popping at her, shouting over her and scorning all she says.
Poor woman is a good writer-but being ambushed by despicable Lefties, who`ve lost all their arguments-yet still shout abuse and smear in turn.
Typical lefty crap from the BBC…only hope all “right wing fascists” bypass the BBC and read those Guardian pull outs of what the plebiscite voted for…then exact the sweet revenge they deserve for loading their panels and lying through their milk teeth .
Owen Jones needs to be in historys dustbin-why the fub are we still letting his like abuse older,wiser-and electorally faithful-“opponents”?
Not related to the election?
Pat Condell defends free speech…Published 9th April with over 26 thousand hits so far
http://tinyurl.com/kac2poh
I see that odious little big mouth Owen Jones was shrieking on a BBC News 24 debate that English votes on English matters was a divisive issue and would give Scots no choice but to leave the UK; never mind that there is a screaming bunch of extremist, anti-English nationalists calling for separation north the border.
Of course, when confronted on this anti-English sentiment which seems to pervade Left-wing discourses, Owen fumbled; how can he accuse the Conservatives of being divisive whilst ignoring the SNP’s vile ideological agenda? This is why the Left lost the argument; they are anti-English, intolerant losers. I hope they fade away into the wilderness where they belong.
You`d think that Datelines agenda-featuring wee Owen-was somehow what the “British People” wanted to know of.
Some Hollandaise Le Soir hack, and Jones-as well as a faintheart Yank and the BBCs cipher of shite who “chaired” this crap-also made up the firing squad for the only woman who was correct about the election-and has been brave throughout the years at the Telegraph.
Their howling over her enraged me-how come being right and honourable, wise and consistent is such kryptonite to the Lefty dolts and dullards who we ought not to be hearing from?
Slabs for Fray Bentos at best!
Thank You Janet Daley-but stop feeding the BBCs hate fests.
Make sure UKIP and Camenron know what you`re owed-just write, and let the BBC dangle!
Hopefully though, Chris, programs like this will ensure more and more people wake up to the fact that a) Left = violent, intolerant, anti-democratic, anti-English, anti-free speech etc etc and b) BBC = Left.
Not given it all much thought-but I`m wondering who labours new leader should be?
I reckon Lucy Powell should be it…she`s a livid car crash on every interview!
Or…let me count them…Chris Leslie, Harrier Harman(please Goddess of Satan, let it be her)…
Owen Jones/Russell Brand Dream Team?
Failing that slop bucket of Labour effluenza…why not ask back Gordon Brown or Neil Kinnock-both of who are owed big time for their part in the Tory Dictatorship they managed to give us.
Well…aalright!….Hello Sheffield!
Well Still watching the wake on the bbc….What a bunch of deluded c##ts……We had an election and they lost BBC, Labour ,LIb Dems all the same and these arseholes don’t realise that the they are still baiting the bear , but this time the chain and the muzzle are off …. can’t wait !!!! Time to act Dave.
Where is our friend the Claphamomnibus man? Anyone know?
Just like debating with him, that is all, (notwithstanding he hardly ever answered my comments, when I responded to his posts).
I think Ed’s overseas strategy guru was the only one on a ‘no win, still pay’ deal so, along with the pollsters, possibly a bit of explaining to do on ROI before further funding approved.
Which may explain the current one-liners from the black (OK, even blacker)-ops Z-team.
I predicted that Monan’s contract only lasted until the election. I guess he missed the bus
Here’s my theory about BBC News and Current Affairs. They failed as propagandists, and they sure as hell failed as journalists, otherwise they would have got out more and reflected an accurate picture of the country’s mood. Now that they have failed there are going to be cuts, savage cuts, rather too close to home. How to keep your job as Left-Wing Audience Selector, or key operator of a Vox Pop poll in the street (“Candidates must to able to lose any off-message reply”)? Well, you don’t just have to swear blind your grandad was Pol Pot, but you have to be seen and heard to be One Of Us. They’re all falling over themselves to be more equal than the rest.
Apologies if this is has already been posted – an update on the McBBC petition:
“Hello everyone and welcome to the new supporters!
I am delighted to say I have TONS of news to share this week so please read until the end.
Let’s start with newspapers. If you remember, the Herald Express (Torquay) and the Courrier (Kent and Sussex) ran a story on the petition lately. Well, now 4 other local newspapers have followed their footsteps:
– MK News published not one, but 2 articles and Jack Ash told me he’s planning a third one.
– Bucks Free Press (Buckinghamshire)
– Express and Echo (Exeter)
– Gloucester Citizen
All links at the bottom of this email. Let’s also mention that 3 websites are covering the petition, trying to reach the one million Polish people living in the UK: Londynek and Emito and PolNews.
My new project unveiled!
https://endbbclicencefee.wordpress.com/
I’ve put together a blog to share all the useful facts I’ve uncovered.
There are 4 articles for you to read:
Hot Potato – Who’s to blame for the TV licence, the government or the BBC?
BBC’s Shady Methods Exposed
25 things the BBC doesn’t want you to know
TV licence Fines Explained
Finally, I made some artworks (caricatures, charts and doodles) to show the evolution of the BBC, how much costs it costs to run it, how the licence fee increased over the years and how the TV Viewing shares are split.
I’ve spent hours and hours of work reading documents, collecting info, crunching it into manageable chunks, so I hope many of you will have a look! If you want to share any part of it, feel free to do so, but please quote me as the author or provide a link to the blog.
Now, news from the supporter!
I’m pleased to report that John Stretton had letter published in Shropshire Star and Express and star for Wolverhampton.
Also, Sarah Jones will be exposing the BBC/Capita dodgy tactics she was victim of in the Leader (Flintshire) soon.
If you want to share your story with a journalist, it’s never too late. And if you send me a link to the published article, I will share it in the next newsletter.
That’s it for today, have a lovely week!
Caroline
Links for publications:
MKWeb: BBC: Milton Keynes residents sign petition to get rid of TV licence fee. Do you agree? http://www.mkweb.co.uk/BBC-Milton-Keynes-residence-sign-petition-rid-TV/story-26403761-detail/story.html
MKWeb: BBC: Your reaction to the BBC TV license story & results to our poll with one clear winner: http://www.mkweb.co.uk/BBC-reaction-BBC-TV-license-story/story-26410937-detail/story.html
Bucks Free Press: Buckinghamshire viewers add their voice to TV licence campaign: http://www.bucksfreepress.co.uk/news/12921846.Bucks_viewers_add_their_voice_to_TV_licence_campaign/?action=success#comments
Exeter Express and Echo: End the BBC Licence Fee: Hundreds of Exeter residents sign petition: http://www.exeterexpressandecho.co.uk/End-BBC-Licence-Fee-Hundreds-Exeter-residents/story-26417308-detail/story.html#gUBe3LqrtxuCSj5e.01
Gloucester Citizen: Thousands sign a petition calling for the TV licence fee to be scrapped: http://www.gloucestercitizen.co.uk/Thousands-sign-petition-calling-TV-licence-fee/story-26424260-detail/story.html#mTIYiIQuKt7ZGS4H.01
Polnews: http://www.polnews.co.uk/index.php/co-gdzie-kiedy/2434-no-tv-licence-fee.html
Emito: http://www.emito.net/kultura/wiadomosci____________________________/wiecznie_zywy_anachronizm_tysiace_podpisow_pod_petycja_o_zniesienie_tv_licence_1843853.html
Londynek: http://londynek.net/wiadomosci/Czas+by+zniesc+abonament+telewizyjny!+Czy+Polacy+na+Wyspach+podpisza+petycje+wiadomosci+news,/wiadomosci/article?jdnews_id=28896
The Shropshire Star: Letter: The BBC falls short when it comes to fair play coverage: http://www.shropshirestar.com/news/2015/04/30/letter-the-bbc-falls-short-when-it-comes-to-fair-play-coverage/ “
And then we read that the expansion of BBC local news coverage has led to a massive decline in local newspapers.
The BBC won’t be happy until it has a news monopoly in every corner of the globe.
Knowledge is power.
https://endbbclicencefee.wordpress.com/?
A bit more knowledge… a bit more power.
Seems a worthy complement to other efforts that exist, and are springing up.
Guest Who, I just posted the email I received regarding the progress of the McBBC petition but it is awaiting moderation.
It seems the beeboids will be in a state of shock for months after the shock of the election result…they are glum…ha ha ha
And its set to get worse. Tomorrows Panorama is about what the election results mean…. That’s easy, no freeking lefty in charge of the coffers
‘Panorama is about what the election results mean’
Yes, well, ‘mean’ to who now? And ‘interpreted’ now doubt via the BBC filter from producer invitations through interviewer loaded questions to editorial integrity on what stays in and, if off narrative… ends up on the cutting room floor.
Not sure the BBC is quite as sure it will be trusted on this now as it was before, and before wasn’t looking too rosy either.
http://tradingaswdr.blogspot.co.uk/2015/05/woe.html
One from the Frankie Howard room of W1A?
Thing is, if you decide to go for broke when playing ‘Black Maria’ (‘Hunt the Queen of Spades’ to any schoolyard card sharps of yore), you have to get the lot to win.
The BBC tried, hitched itself to a less than reliable wagon towed by a knackered nag, and the whole lot has fallen off a cliff.
‘Lord Hall may have partially been gambling on a Labour win in 2015 when he re-hired James Purnell, now with Cabinet experience under his belt’
So casting about trying to prop up outposts of mutual consolation may be great in group hug terms in a bonding session, but in the real world it gets a bit more chicken roosty.
‘Tories who have made the BBC’s life difficult over the last Parliament are back with more votes.’
All rather suggesting to some, maybe, that the actual public are offering various mandates.
Which may explain, if not excuse, why the BBC is now doing all it can, whenever it can, to explain away what the public has done with what it could all ‘mean’ if analysed that special way the BBC likes to think is required.
Good luck with that.
How to turn a BBC favourite into a raving fascist, hell-bent on creating a divided society…..
Take any of Nicola Sturgeon’s speeches and replace the words ‘Scotland’ and ‘Scottish’ with ‘England’ and ‘English’.
Any one seen the ‘Clapped out Bus’ yet?
I expect that there will be three along now any minute .
Merched, it seems that the auld bus has fallen foul of new EU emission regulations, due to amount of obnoxious pollutants it spouted and has been forced off the road, along with its deluded passengers.
Well it looks like we will all have to walk now ?
BBC on Free Speech, a parade of opinions from the gutless cowards.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-32627158
Now see Megan Kelly of Fox News on Free Speech and the value or giving offence. Note in the video mention of Martin Luther King who chose venues to offend and bring out the bullies. I suppose today he would tell the BBC where to go if asked to pose with a piece of cardboard standing up to wayscism.
Here is Megan Kelly
Thanks G.W.F. for posting. Excellent.
Yes, thanks for posting that.
Megan Kelly cuts through hypocrisy like a hot knife through butter. Tough, straightforward and with a finely-tuned sense of justice, she represents everything that is best about Americans.
Anyone catch S Chakrabati on BBC Sunday Morning Live, she s definitely going for the full Hitler Haircut,
SML Have human rights laws achieved more for man than religion?
hmm … note that the BBCs latest Islamosqueeze Abdullah al Andulusi is front row again, obfuscating on ISIS, Sharia and Women s rights
and laughably “brave” Peter Tatchell, (is he still with Tell MAMA?).
Panto Campbell, continually and swiftly erm “moves the debate on” when things get to close for comfort.
“Panto Campbell, continually and swiftly erm “moves the debate on” when things get to close for comfort.”
Stephen Nolan does that constantly, that is why he will have 3 or 4 subjects on the go at the same time, when things go against the leftist flow, the subject gets dropped quickly. bBC – rotten to the core.
BBC is in mourning.
Very little about the Tories winning, or the biggest swing going to UKIP or the permanent demise of the Lib-Dems. No. More soul searching about why Labour failed miserably and who is responsible. Usual suspects are blamed “not getting message across” “right-wing press” “SNP”, “Polls getting people jittery”.
It was like a meeting in Polly Toynbee’s expensive home. All yacking and saying nothing.
None of therm addressing that people in England simply don’t trust Labour…but that conclusion would be too easy to draw and too difficult to take.
Diane Abbott on the “Murnaghan” show today wanted the polls to be banned as they influenced peoples views. So no change there with the Left. They do need to ban and control…and they say those to the right are draconian or fascists.
Twisted logic from Abbott there, banning anything that influences peoples views would probably have resulted in a lot more UKIP MPs, I’m sure she would have been chuffed with that!
Did anybody see Andrew Marr this morning…
Interesting that when he asked his guest Labour politicians a question he would say, what are ”WE” going to have to do to sort out ”OUR” problems, or when ”WE” elect a new leader etc….
A slip of the tongue perhaps…..
Charlie Stayt said “we” as well. Curious.
Which should I buy then?
Hattie Harmans pink bus?…or Jimmy Saviles old Roller?
I would go for Clapham man’s omnibus. It doesn’t look like it’s used any more.
I would guess he’s now caught the omnibus in Fulham….MOFO……seems more apt, somehow….
Where is he? I’ve missed his posts they were so funny even if they were getting a little passe.
Wait for Nicola Sturgeon’s helicopter to be up for sale unless she trades it in for an Air Force 1
She probably doesn’t need it now she thinks she is up there sharing a cloud with Zeus.
A phoney war is well underway over Europe. ‘There’s no danger of a split over Europe.’ There’s so little danger, we got to hear John Redwood, Peter Bone, Owen Paterson and Bill Cash all tell us so over the weekend. Meanwhile, the sinister iron fist of the Tory high command is getting ready to thump anyone who steps out of line. Check out this article by Iain Martin in the Torygraph today:
David Cameron is a winner now – and his Eurosceptic backbenchers know it
Martin is a Tory insider; not a Wet. Shows you where the balance of power is today. The recent great propaganda war between the Tory press and the Beeb was awesome; what will it be like when they get together for the referendum? Those who went back to the Tories to secure the EU vote are going to be disappointed at the ‘deal’.
Cameron needs the rabidly pro-EU BBC ‘onside’ for the 2017 Referendum. With the beeboids’ charter up for review in Dec. 2016 ‘Cast-iron’ will tread carefully. Some cosmetic twiddling, yes. Cans kicked down the road, yes. Drastic surgery, cutting our national broadcaster down to size & making the pampered ‘progressive’ elite work for their money, unlikely. The beeboids may be smarting from the election result but they know which way their bread is buttered. A shabby deal will be struck. Cameron’s ambition is to win a ‘Stay in’ Referendum, thereby locking the UK into the EU superstate for the forseable future – his legacy. And his ‘secret’ mission. If achieved, he will have served his masters well & the ‘heir to Blair’ will have completed his part in the total destruction of our nation state, & the hordes from Africa will come, & keep on coming. The final solution to the white European problem, as envisaged by the Marxists of the 1920s (Coudenhove-Kalergi etc.) will be a step nearer. (I also appreciate the Globalist/Corporatist part in this 2-pronged assault on the very concept of the sovereign state.)
In the build-up to the Referendum we can expect the dirty tricks employed in Thanet South to go into national overdrive. There was absolutely no way that Cameron would allow Farage victory. Farage in the HoC, constantly battering ‘Dave’, pointing up all the stifling corruption & waste in the EU – wouldn’t look good would it? In time, the story will be written about the Tory-Labour collusion & all the rest of the shenanigans that took place down in Kent. I’m hearing snippets already. Tory canvassers telling voters that Red Ed would be ‘soft on terrorism’, for one. That’s rich, isn’t it? I’ll never forget Cameron’s media response after the Lee Rigby atrocity – ‘This has nothing to do with Islam.’ Now I wonder who told him to say that?
Cameron knows full well that any of the other 27 EU member states can, and will, veto any reform deal after we have voted. That would leave us stuck inside an unreformed EU still on course for ever closer union, single EU military, single currency etc…
The only realistic and guaranteed way to get powers back from the EU and prevent future integration into the EU is to vote OUT!
Apart from the Conservatives managing to increase their local councillors by a whopping 500+ one other very important and newsworthy item is missing from the BBC news.
That item is called the Unions, those undemocratic loonies who fund the Labour party.
Over the last two years UNISON UNITE have been parachuting their preferred candidates into Labour strongholds across the country and into seats where they believe that Labour could / would win.
This has been done against the backdrop of Labour publicising that they were no longer in thrall to the Unions and were going to reject any donations over £5,000, this has not happened, instead the Unions are still Labours chief source of income and the value of their donations is increasing yearly.
Some numbers:
Unison Labour Link provided over 50% of all Labour candidates for the 2015 elections
Since 2001 the Labour party have accepted donations from the Unions totalling £138 million pounds – that is almost £10 Million pounds per year.
These numbers relate only for donations made at the national level, the stats are hugely disturbing, however, rather than the BBC query why undemocratic organisations should hold such sway over one party the issue is buried.
When you start digging into the local and district council stats the stench of corruption in the Labour party is truly horrific. Of course we can expect zero investigations by the BBC as only the ‘Nasty Party’ could possibly be guilty of any sort of criminal activities.
This is an excellent point and the contrast is even stronger when you consider the countless ‘investigations’ into the ‘malign’ effects of banking and ‘big business’ undertaken by the BBC.
I cannot recall a single BBC investigation into the influence of trade unions in the UK for many years. Can anyone else?
I guess the silver lining to that cloud is that the unions poured all that money down the drain.
Yes – think of the boost to the economy – it’s what they would have wanted. Splashing money for no other reason than to increase GDP.
Driving back tonight just caught the end of Michael Balls Radio 2 show where he proudly stated that ‘this was a Wise Buddha production’.
Nothing special about the show, DJ playing records, why is it necessary to farm out production when the bBC has all the facilities and staff and quite likely broadcast from bBC premises? Does it save or cost?
Wise Buddha incidentally is ex bBC DJ Mark Goodyear’s company.
First time I would agree with the Hodges.
Harking back to the VE Day celebrations screened on saturday night, I was pleasantly surprised when I started to enjoy most of it, even the 1940s music (this from a committed heavy metaller) . Catherine Jenkins brilliant, Pixie Lott great, even the Ginger one wasnt too much of a dick. Proves when they keep it simple the Beeb can make a fist of it. One moot point however was the constant narrative reference to “the enemy” as in ” After D-Day the enemy retreated, and the war was soon over”.
A concession to PC rather than name and shame our German neighbours?
If so, a good job Stan Boardman wasnt booked.
Agree.
When the BBC leave us alone, they`re OK.
I heard Bradley Wiggins on Desert Island Discs and my mind is changed.
He is well worth his knighthood-and he`s a good guy, not a BBC cartoon….I was wrong.
THIS was Public Education-as is radio 3 and other bits of output.
As long as I avoid their News slurry, i`ll be OK.
Maybe a voluntary bucket for donations outside Radio Somerset instead of their poll tax for privileged liblab losers like Angela Eagle.
Stan “The Jairmans bombed our chippy” Boardman ?
We should have gone the whole hog with Basil Fawlty and the Major.
‘You couldn’t make it up’ Number 372:
Sally Bercow admits ‘I’m a terrible wife’ after accusations of affair with Speaker John Bercow’s cousin
“I’m not even confirming that I’ve had an affair with the cousin.
“I’m not even talking about it. I’m not even talking about personal matters, not even going to talk about it. I don’t think it’s relevant.
“It’s up to John, he’s the public figure I’m not. No marriage is perfect, no marriage is perfect, if John wants me back he’s crazy.
“If I was John, I wouldn’t put up with it. But I’m a strong woman, I wouldn’t put up with it.
“He’s not a weak man, he’s an amazing man. He loves me very much. Is he a forgiving man? Very. But I’m not sure I want to be forgiven.
“Alan’s left me f*****g heartbroken.”
Charming.
Interesting analysis as Labour moves to elect the worst possible candidate and ensure that the Tories win yet another election in 2020.
Chuka Umanna. The bloke is an effete dandy who comes apart under pressure.
You reckon you could get the Scots ex-Labour voters to back him? or the ex-Labour voters in the northern Mill Towns? In your dreams.
Labour’s problem is the north of England, Wales and Scotland will not vote for a Blairist candidate or one the perceive as a part of the Islington set – forget it, it won’t happen. Conversely, the east Midlands and the south will not vote for a more left wing form of Labour.
Labour is stuck between a rock and a hard place. It is going to have to turn one way or the other and forget the ones it turns away from. It might not like it, but it has no option
Thoughtful – their plan B will be to concentrate on the non-indigenous vote. They’ve recognised that trying to attract the Muslim vote by having a Jewish leader wasn’t the smartest of ideas, so now they need to choose a new leader tailored to the voters they want to win over.
The BBC will love it.
They already have the Muslim vote so what’s the point in trying to get what you already have?
They have problems in the white working class areas of the North and in Scotland, Ummuna will appeal to neither.
A Jewish leader might have alienated some, but Ummuna is a Christian of Nigerian heritage which is unlikely to endear him to anyone, including those from that region who are Muslim fighting against the Christians.
He’s no more a Christian than the Kenyan is and he will ingratiate himself with the moslems in the same desperate way
Liebour has betrayed the working class, it’s a marxist party representing effniks, immigrants, islam.
unfortunately that is not correct.
Labour is a party of middle class liberal metropolitan hand wringing do gooders, all much wealthier than the average working person, and never having experienced the life of the people they claim to represent.
If it continues to allow this kind of person into its senior ranks, then it will continue to be distanced from the people that it claims it wants to vote for it.
I would disagree, thoughtful. Your point and David’s are not mutually exclusive.
Chuka is vain, he sees politics as I’m a Celebrity Get Me Out of Here. He is also a Metro-Lib and that won’t play well out of London.
Guido is right, he should run for London mayor. Labour is screwed. They have lost Scotland so will never be able to get a majority. They have have alienated the Northern vote with their Metropolitan Liberal Elite antics.
Cameron’s first test…
Nigel Farage not getting 85 MPs, that wasn’t UKIP’s loss, that was Britain’s loss. Just as Enoch not becoming PM was.
Yes, Geoff I was watching Europamagazin on German TV this morning. Martin Schultz the “President of Europe” who no one has ever heard of or elected was bitching about Cameron sending a ship to the Med, but refusing to allow the “asylum seekers” to enter the UK, taking them to Italy instead. As the usual European line is that asylum seekers bring enrichment and rejuvenation you would think that the Italians would be overjoyed at getting more than their fair share. The Euro spokesmen say they will listen to Cameron’s suggestions for improving Europe but will not allow him to block the general progress of the EU. It seems that they are desperate to consolidate the Eurozone and willing to spend any amount of money to keep Greece in for purely political reasons. Hungary is also on the naughty step because it wants the death penalty back. This obviously violates EU doctrine. With Grexit, Brexit the problems in Italy and Hungary unhappy with EU meddling, things may be brought to a head with Cameron’s renegotiations, but there does not seem to be much interest in Cameron’s endeavours.
The EU’s ‘ever closer union’, that is what its all about ID.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/eu/10792773/Britain-would-be-better-off-without-the-EUs-ever-closer-union.html
The EUSSR is the Soviet Union mark 2, an iron fist in a velvet glove.
” As the usual European line is that asylum seekers bring enrichment and rejuvenation.”
There’s the good answer and then there’s the real answer, we all know that’s BS. What can Somalians teach Italy about culture ??? No, mass immigration is being used as a weapon by the Power Elites to subvert, destroy and finally abolish any sense of patriotism and nationalism in our nations.
They did that in the USSR, to create the new Soviet man, they had to get rid of the Kulaks and the traditions of old Christian Russia.
“What can Somalians teach Italy about culture ???”
Come on! They had lots of brilliant ideas for sculpture, painting, architecture, music – oh and a really brilliant one for dramatising Greek myths in a staged musical context. Shame that one or two Italians just beat them to it. Still, they can always move on to cultural deserts like France and Germany.
Like the old Roman saying:
‘Quis haber Somaliorum umquam perfectus nobis?’
What have the Somalis ever done for us?
ID, this is the same Martin Schulz who spoke before the Knesset last year, regurgitating Palestinian propaganda about water resources and the “blockade” of Gaza.
It’s understandable that several Knesset members took exception to being lectured in German about the Israeli-Palestinian conflict:
http://www.timesofisrael.com/right-wing-mks-stalk-out-on-eu-parliament-speaker/
It’s unclear why one of them felt the need to offer Schulz an olive branch a week later, but I imagine trade and the excessive power of the EU for ill had a lot to do with it:
http://www.timesofisrael.com/after-walkout-bennett-makes-amends-with-eu-president-schulz/
Schulz is apparently one of those politicians who makes a career out of being excessively PeeCee.
No doubt he would insist that the Muslim barbarians who threw twelve Christians overboard from a refugee ship bound for Italy be welcomed with open arms into the UK.
I wonder what Nigel Farage thinks of Martin Schulz.
TrueToo, probably all you need to know about Schultz is that he is an avid reader of Eric Frogspawn, renowned British Marxist historian.
I think Schultz was a teacher, SPD union activist, and former Mayor of Wurstleben, or similar.
I’m sure there is no love lost between Farage and Schultz, as Schultz was the prime mover behind the attempt to get the fraction Farage belongs to dissovled when some Latvian MEP left, leaving the number of nationalities below the designated number
This would have consigned Farage to the backbenches and cut funding and resources to practically nothing. A Polish MEP joined and was subjected to the usual smear campaign, i.e anti-semitism, holocaust denial etc.
Marxism has to be one of the most evil dogmas ever to have been inflicted on unsuspecting mankind.
Once in a while, someone writes something on this site that makes me laugh out loud:
“As the usual European line is that asylum seekers bring enrichment and rejuvenation you would think that the Italians would be overjoyed at getting more than their fair share.”
Thank you. And fair point, too.
Brilliant. And not to mention France.
One to throw at our Lefty friends when they finally have the balls to re-join us.
I’m a bit mystified, though, as to why no-one’s thought of having a fleet of ships at the ready to load them up and take them back and keep doing it until they give up/run out of money.
We should always show compassion towards genuine asylum seekers as we did with the Ugandan Asians in the 70s. However, many or most of the ones in these boats are economic migrants and have paid big money for their illegal trips. The Left don’t want us to make that distinction because it goes against their mass immigration agenda. The genuine asylum seekers are suffering as a result.
BBC, Channel4 continue to talk of “burden sharing”, . contradicting their usual “progressive” rhetoric. I wonder when they will realise they are using “racist language” and change tack. I suspect that “we are depriving ourseles of valuable human resources that the Germans are welcoming with open arms” will be the new spin.
BBC man Ross Hawkins is ‘fascinated’ by what Harriet Harman has had to say this morning.
Once again bringing to our screens the breathless enthusiasm our Ross last displayed during the heady days of all that Leveson nonsense, he seems really bouyed up with the stop-gap Labour leader’s call to focus on opposing the Tories.
It’s same old same old Labour words amplified by BBC lips…. Harman has ‘commissioned’ some work to find out the facts of Labour’s defeat. (‘Commission’ – that’s just what the BBC do, right?)
Dear Harriet, BBC man Ross won’t say this (he’s just there to mimic what you say) but I can tell you the FACTS of your defeat were simply these – 35% lefty strategy = 30% defeat. Got that, luv?
Harriet would be fascinating to hear only were she to elaborate on her involvement in the NCCL, and its affiliated movements.
I heard the Harman interview this morning and she reminded me of the Japanese soldier discovered in the jungle still fighting WW2 20 years after VJ Day. A textbook example of slippery, slimy evasion combined with a compulsion (aka ‘Left Tourette’s’) to keep on campaigning against evil Tory policies – you know, the ones that have just won Dave the election.
Then Harman turns on Naughtie who, for once, was pushing hard to get an answer as to why she thought Labour had screwed up big time:
‘It’s no good you sighing with exasperation’.
Comedy gold. And still more chickens as yet to find a roosting spot.
This election has been the gift that just keep on giving and I suspect there’s loads more to come. Which reminds me, must re-stock on the old champers….
P.S. It was amazing to hear this car crash of an interview reported on the news bulletin that followed. Talk about polishing a turd.
Jim “If-WE-win-the-election” Naughtie VERY shirty with Harriet Harman on the Today Programme. Has the Beeb’s sorrow at the election result turned to anger at Labour’s failure to win?
Spot on! It’s certainly not a result of a Damascene Conversion to impartiality.
If you run out of champers, Johnny, I hear there are quite a few unopened bottles at the BBC.
Top ‘news’ on BBC Facebook is the story of a woman in New Zealand who got lost overnight and had to drink her own breast milk to survive.
She also dug a hole. Not the only one.
The comments so far are a treat.
Another great laugh after reading the comments. Thanks.
About this upcoming EU proposal for migrant quotas….
Given the free movement of anyone once they are within the EU, what’s the point?
Who’s to say Britain won’t get Luxembourg’s quota anyway?
I’m guessing this will really be about fast tracking the issue of passports to quickly shove the migrants on through Italy.
Asylum seekers are not citizens and therefore do not have the freedom of movement enjoyed by full citizens.
Claimants can only make ONE claim at a time which is why there is a migrant camp at Calais, of people who refuse to make an asylum claim in France because they want to come to England.