I can see that the AFTERMATH thread is overflowing. So, here’s a new one. BBC still distraught and have decided it is timely to hype up Conservative splits over the EU as well as continuing to pander to the irrelevance of the SNP. The floor is yours…
NEW OPEN THREAD…
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Oh the irony!
Mr Galloway, leader of the Respect Party, lost his Bradford West seat to Labour’s Naz Shah, who he has alleged made “false statements” during the campaign to affect the result.
He also claimed “widespread malpractice” involving postal voting meant the result must be “set aside”.
A Labour spokesman said the action was “pathetic and without any foundation”.
Who would have guessed that Georgeous George would have been the one to break the M.Omerta, observed assiduously by MSM & MS Parties?
UH OH! …. don t like it up em, Capn Mannering
I tell you, he was on borrowed time anyway, as soon as they could shoe in a “true” brother, not a convert, he would be history … the Islamic way
It was a decapitation strategy….
Sorry just hit report button by mistake as page loaded 🙁 soz
BBC Breakfast 5Live just now with a studio audience with well-expressed views from across the political spectrum (though I didn’t see it all). Polite and sensible to a man and woman, broadly concurring that Labour lost it because people couldn’t bring themselves to vote for Miliband and Ball, and the electorate wasn’t stupid. Wow.
THEN, Louise Minchin reverts rapidly to BBC narrative when she goes over to interview politics professor in a large furry ball (don’t ask). So many different views, she starts, so hard for Cameron to govern, a mention of nasty “Right wing” backbenchers having more sway, a little bit of incitement for those of the monument-desecrating bent. Reads out texts coming in from the public. Again, astonishingly (for the BBC) sensible views. She reads out one that says no one could have voted for Labour because they trashed the economy, and the texter is delighted the Conservatives got in. Louise Minchin, on BBC auto-pilot, gives a little grimace and says airily “That’s his opinion.”
This is what gets me, the bias is just THERE, insidiously, continuously. You can’t make a formal complaint about Louise Minchin’s face-pulling or casual asides, but the effect is cumulative.
I saw this and I couldn’t agree with you more. Its just “there”. Thing is, why was it on in the first place, its like an official inquiry into the wrong outcome of the election. Have there been similar programmes after other elections, I cant remember it in 97 for example.
that disgraceful bint laurie penny (deliberate lower case) is getting a pounding in the comments of the Independent. Everyone is disgusted with her and those student scumbags
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/news/katie-hopkins-trounces-laurie-penny-in-battle-of-offensiveness-over-antitory-graffiti-suggests-she-should-be-made-a-woman-of-isis-10239162.html
Maybe we should ask those “students” about the performance of George Galloway’s Respect party in the election.
I’m back. Many thanks for the kind words from you all prior to my surgery. Still sore and limited but op was successful.
Da iawn!
Greetings Demon.
Hi Demon glad youre ok and welcome back to a Miliband free country
Good to hear from you again.
Good news Demon
best wishes, recover well
Good to hear they got you sorted, Demon. Plenty of ongoing fun here to keep you amused!
Hi Demon, very glad to hear that the op went well. I had a similar procedure about 6 months ago and now feel much better. The thought of no more Milliband and Balls is ideal therapy! (When I say no more Balls, I mean the politician!!!!!)
Good to hear that all went well – here’s to a full recovery.
Good to hear all is well, Demon.
Delighted and pleased you are up to posting so quickly
Well done, Demon!
Good to have you back.
Thanks again to everryone here. Watching the election was quite therapeutic. Amazing how many nurses seemed quite pleased by the result.
On the Beeb at the moment there is an HYS on the scandal of ………wait for it “Hollow Egyptian Animal Mummies” the comments flying in thick and fast and mine not expected to live very long.
It’s been referred for further consideration (i.e. we don’t like it but if we can’t find a spurious reason to delete we’ll put it back when everyone’s gone away).
Cheer up though. You’re by no means the only one.
Propaganda
BBC Dogma.
As with plagues, or diseases,
We must find a cure.
Sarah Vine wife of Gove and regular bBC contributor not only issues a slanderous Tweet to Night Farage, but also grossly insults the 4m who voted UKIP.
https://twitter.com/SarahVine/status/596609350547992576
She won first prize in a Rocky Marciano lookalike competition, don’t you know.
Now that is hard to take. Marciano was a great fighter from the days when boxing was a real sport.
This is so bad, I thought her account might have been hacked but maybe not. Just about the most vulgar twitter account I’ve seen; amazing from the wife of a Tory minister. A good match for Mrs Speaker.
Pundits are saying Cameron should ‘reach out’ to Nigel Farage, but this shows what they are really thinking; the Tory born-to-rule set. They used the red-scare to get a repeat of ’92, but they’re liable to end up hated like that government if they’re not careful.
‘Member’s Spouses’ (as opposed to the other way around) would seem a worthy website to create to log such charming X-rated outbursts.
Bercow, this lady… and I am sure some lads too (Jacquie’s squeeze?), it seems the business of bringing Parliament in disrepute is a pincer affair starting early.
”By bye nigel, you racist old homophobic git!”
That’s really classy of Michael Gove’s wife, using the same smears as UAF and SWP.
Gove has a wife?
I think he should sue the bitch.
I notice from this story that Cameron has appointed Amber Rudd as the new Energy and Climate Change Minister (comedy job with a comedy title), taking over from where that clown Ed Davey left off…
What do we know of Ms Rudd? A quick look over her own website reveals nothing about her thoughts on the CAGW scam, although, worryingly, it does reveal she voted with Greenpeace in favour of changes to fishery rights for her home constituency of Hastings…
The BBC says nothing about any green credentials she might/might not have. I’d be interested to see if she intends to be even half as critical of the CAGW scam as her predecessor never was.
I was hoping Dave would abolish that whole joke department and merge Energy with something else. Green crap indeed.
Just Wikipedia’d Amber Rudd as I invariably find that these ‘unknowns’ have someone in their family who is part and parcel of the establishment.
Lo and behold….’married to AA Gill’.
Well I never.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amber_Rudd
hi Phil, this is what Ms Rudd said last year
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The main purpose for me [here] is to get up to speed with the relationships and the issues to do with delivering one of the most important things we’re ever going to do, which is limiting global warming to under 2°C.
I don’t think you could get a cigarette paper between me and Labour on our commitment to getting a deal in Paris.”
not looking good is it. However on a brighter note as Bishop- Hill notes
“the Culture portfolio has gone to John Whittingdale, a man who has described the BBC licence fee as “worse than the poll tax”. Fair to say though, that with a wafer thin majority, the chances of Cameron getting a bill to abolish the licence fee are close to zero.”
http://www.bishop-hill.net/blog/2015/5/11/camerons-ruddy-duck.html
Looking at some of the latest appointments why do I get the overriding feeling that nothing much has changed?
Fingers crossed for john Whittingdale to sort the bBC.
Nothing has changed. Dave is certainly “off the leash”. Unfortunately, since he was quite happy to be “on the leash” with the LibDems (using them to fool his genuinely Conservative supporters that somehow he was being prevented from enacting Conservative policies) you’ll not notice much – or any – difference. We’ve got LabCon now rather than LibLabCon. Forget about anything else, it’ll cost us (ie England) a fortune in Paris and guess who’ll suffer most when the power begins to fail. We’re in the process of a sell-out (financially and constitutionally) to the SNP and a faux-“negotiation” followed by another sell-out to the EU: get used to it.
Some people are never satisfied.
On Thursday morning you did not even expect to be writing about the EU.
By Monday morning you write to tell us it is already a sell out.
Perhaps you can advise me which areas DC is going to ask the EU to change in its relationship with us and the outcome of those negotiations as you seem to own a remarkably brightly shining crystal ball
At that stage seemingly we will be invited to return to the ballot box, weigh up all the pros and cons put before us and make our mind up to put up or shut up.
We seem to have just demonstrated the ability to do that, but must accept that for all our huffing and puffing on here for most people they tend to favour the known to the unknown.
In the mean time a Grexit in the short term is still likely, the French economy is going down the tubes trapped in the Euro, Germany should be the subject of heavy fines for running its huge surplus etc. so we may be negotiating with a rather less than united EU
Perhaps you can advise me which areas DC is going to ask the EU to change…
Surely we know that? At the end of last year, Cameron proposed restrictions on free movement but Merkel gave him a slap and told him to behave. So it’s to be some tinkering with benefits. I thought both sides have made nod-and-wink acknowledgemnts as such?
“Surely we know that?”
Just like “we” all knew the outcome of the election on Thursday morning?
With all the collected wisdom demonstrated by posters on BBBC can anyone pick out one that called a Conservative majority correctly?
With respect neither did you!
Exactly my point!
I do not exclude myself from the “we” who did not get it right.
On Monday we are rather more likely to get a vote on membership of the EU than we were on Thursday morning, but already it is being declared a stitch up / sell out, without even any details of what DC will be wanting to discuss with the EU, let alone any outcome being known.
Interestingly the best way to support DC is to tell any opinion pollsters who call that you would vote for out. As a couple of “out” polls would concentrate the EU’s mind, as did that one poll in the Scottish independence campaign which was for “out”
How the new government deal with the bBC will strangely give us a quick indication of their direction on the EU referendum
eg Failure to quickly quickly tackle the bBC pro EU bias will give an indication that in the 2017 referendum Dave and co will use said bias to their advantage to sway the vote.
No, I didn’t call a Con majority, but I did say:
“It won’t happen though. I can’t see Labour beating the Tories in the marginals. On Thursday in the LabCon marginals, the swing voters will think of their wallet, think of Balls and Miliband, and put their x in the Conservative box. There might be many dumb folk out there, but not that many.”
May I ask, Class A4 4468, do you believe Britain’s future should lie inside or outside the EU?
Yes!
But I have an open mind which one at present, which will be decided when I see what is presented to me to vote on.
Very good.
Plenty to discuss over the coming months.
Just like “we” all knew the outcome of the election on Thursday morning?
Er.. no. We know, because the ‘negotiations’ played out in the media before Christmas. Dave sent Major out to request a ‘brake’ (‘break’?). Brussels snubbed him; very few attended the speech. Dave then tried Merkel but got slapped down – no changes to ‘core principles’. To save his face, in anticipation of the coming ‘negotiations’, they promised some crumbs on benefits. That’s all Dave put in the manifesto, (along with a clampdown on bogus students that they’ve been repeating for five years).
We’re also working to control immigration by:
•Clamping down on benefits tourism and health tourism – so that we only welcome those who want to work hard and contribute to our society
•Cracking down on abuse of the immigration system by closing bogus colleges and making it much tougher for illegal immigrants to remain in the UK by restricting access to work, housing, benefits, healthcare, bank accounts and driving licences
•Introducing a new citizen test with British values at its heart
https://www.conservatives.com/Plan/WelfareImmigration
So we can indeed ‘know’ that Dave will deliver nothing of substance, because he has told us so! Listen his speeches, strip out the PR spin and all that’s left is tweaking benefits.
I’m only going on the evidence of the last 45 years and the referendum in 1975. I voted in that one and voted to remain inside a free market – which was how the then political class sold the deal. I hadn’t realised – or blindly had refused to realise – that the vote was about a future USE not a then present EEC/free trade area.
I don’t know what you’re getting huffy about. All I wrote was what I have consistently written. Dave is a CINO and his interests reduce to staying in power and having a quiet life from Sam. Sure he’s won the election – and I’m thankful for that seeing the alternatives on offer. However I cannot conceive of a tough negotiation with the EU. Oh sure, there’ll be plenty of fireworks that will only be showbiz: there’ll be few fireworks over the basic substance.
Cameron will obtain – and the EU will give him – sufficient to win a referendum. However, as with the BBC and its embrace of the Narrative, the EU never changes: its destiny is a USE or nothing. A renegotiation might slow it down, even divert it for a time but whether its 2030 or 2080, or whether we’re in or out, the USE it will be. Analogously, that’s why abolition of the BBC subscription is insufficient by itself; the BBC should be broken up. But back to Cameron: he will negotiate the least necessary to win a referendum because his interest is in staying in. Of course people prefer the known to the unknown: indeed I reckon that were a referendum held today the majority would vote to remain in because of that.
IMHO, as I assert above, as long as the EU remains in being – whether or not we’re members – it will become a USE but without the democratic credentials of the USA. I don’t know if Cameron wants that but I believe that in the end he doesn’t really care.
“I notice from this story that Cameron has appointed Amber Rudd as the new Energy and Climate Change Minister”
Phil, if only it had been Amber Heard.
I still smile at the memory of her interview on Top Gear – a fan of American muscle cars and guns.
John Whittingdale gets Culture Media and Sport; Norman Smith says ‘This may mean trouble for Auntie Beeb’
Guido’s take on the new appointment.
http://order-order.com/2015/05/11/bye-bye-telly-tax-whitto-in-at-culture/
I love the last line, the end is nigh
So let me see if I’ve read that right
New ‘conservative’ Minister for Culture Media and Sport, thinks £145 Licence fee is unfair on the poor so he wants it added to the rates instead.
Essexman ,wild and all the other penny counters will be pleased
He was the Chairman of the ‘Future of the BBC’ inquiry.
At the time I was concerned that often he cut off those, such as Angie Bray, who actually wanted to address areas of service failure and especially as regards normal members of the public.
Mr. Whittingale was much too happy chatting with insiders and old boys & girls club members for my taste.
Plus of course the inquiry did fall down in favour of the fee getting loaded, opt-out free no matter what, on everyone, plus accountability passed to the notus.gov public sector protection agency that is OFCOM.
So… nice one Dave. Not.
I will be telling my MP stuff like this really doesn’t impress. I knew it would happen and voted on the economy to keep Ed out, but the compromises that get rolled in do not appeal.
vircantium
How does ‘tweaking’ the licence fee equate to ‘bye bye telly tax’? I think you’re over-hyping him Guido. What Whittingdale seems to be suggesting is retaining a telly tax, but just collecting it in a different way… a way that will be less easy to evade or avoid. Weak.
I smell spin in the morning, and it stinks.
Auntie Beeb
Still trying to pass off the organisation as benign !!
Those listening to Naughtie’s interview of Harriet “PIE” Harman noticed two things: first, the refusal of Harman to admit or even consider that, although something had gone wrong, that “something” might be connected with Labour policies and, second, the impatience of Naughtie with Harman’s refusal to engage, let alone speculate about what mistakes Labour might have made.
As Charles Moore wrote in this morning’s Telegraph “[Labour] is left with three groups – the more ghettoised, self-identifying ethnic minorities (chiefly Muslims), the unionised public sector and the north London moralisers who lack the numbers but still set the tone for television, human rights law, the “creative” industries and what gets taught in bog‑standard state schools and universities.”
Sarah Vine – per Geoff’s quote of her ludicrous tweet – has proved that, although a member by marriage of the Conservative starry firmament, she is a solid member of at least 2 parts of Moore’s three legs of Labour support. Also, as Moore didn’t write explicitly – he didn’t really have to – the BBC by its conduct pre-election and, moreover, its conduct since the election is the taxpayer funded voice of Labour together with, since they’re in better fettle, extreme left-wing and anti-English (you know, that misguided lot that gave Cameron his majority), the SNP. Accordingly, the “news” item intro since 2010 of “Ed Miliband will say . . . ” has been largely replaced by either an upbeat “Nicola Sturgeon will say . . . ” or a grave “David Cameron will have to deal with . . . .”
As I (and many others on this blog) have written times without number, nothing will change – even with a “new” charter which will I’m sure will enshrine (again!) the BBC version of “impartiality” – until the BBC is no longer funded by the taxpayer and is simply broken up.
Robin Brant was the Beeb’s UKIP campaign correspondent, but he seems happy to continue doing the ‘good work’:
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He didn’t say that at all, what he did say was that he wasn’t going to run and quote ‘I can think of half a dozen figures in UKIP who could do the job better; Suzanne Evans, Patrick O’Flynn, Stephen Woolfe, Paul Nuttall or Diane James.’
Nowhere did he say he didn’t want Farage to run and of course he will talk in the past tense because Farage isn’t (at present) leader.
Again the bBC twisting the truth to suit their agenda.
BBC News not yet a caught up on this story about the illegal immigrants sailing across the Med:
“Maltese patrol boats have not been picking up migrants at sea because the migrants themselves refuse to be rescued by Maltese boats, the commander of the AFM’s maritime unit, Lt Col Andrew Mallia has been quoted as saying by the Italian newspaper La Repubblica.
He said that whenever Maltese patrol boats intercepted migrants’ boats the migrants invariably refused help.
He explained that the migrants did not want to come to Malta because that would make it difficult for them to proceed to Northern Europe.”
http://www.timesofmalta.com/articles/view/20150504/local/migrants-refusing-help-from-maltese-patrol-boats.566735
Surely such a story is newsworthy? If the illegal immigrants are desperate and fleeing persecution etc, etc, surely they would be more than happy to reach safety in the island of Malta? Maybe there’s something we are not being told?
The immediate response to this both logically and politically is the EU to state, effective immediately, Malta will do 100% of all patrols (and be adequately rewarded for doing so, obviously), Italy and others could even lend boats and crew to Malta for this lifesaving humanitarian mission.
bBC press office quickly deleted Tweet, attacking John Whittingdale, spot the agenda!
I suspect that tweet just marks the start of a long and very insidious, spiteful whispering campaign by the apparatchiks of the BBC Politburo against Mr Whittingdale. Happily, it also signals to the rest of us that the hateful Corporation now knows it is about to come under hostile political scrutiny for the first time in a generation. We’ll see…
If the BBC aren’t happy with the appointment of John Whittingdale, then he can’t be all bad.
I’ve still got my copy of ‘The Last Days of the Beeb’ by Michael Leapman, written 30 years ago. The BBC had come under scrutiny like never before, having irked the Conservative government over its bias, monopolist tendencies and relevance in a changing world. As the title implies, there were many on the Left who feared for its survival. Absolutely nothing changed… and here we are a generation later with the exact same discussions. So although the appointment is welcome, we shall indeed have to wait and see what – if anything – happens.
John Whittingdale is a Mensa member who studied Astronomy at university, so hopefully he may now be able to bring up issues revealed in the “BBC Censorship” article relating to the BBC‘s censorship policy for climate science, scientists and scientific debate.
Shame that his Labour Shadow is Underpants Bryant
I wondered why the BBC cut away from this election speech on Friday morning….It’s the hateful left, that al-beeb don’t want us to know about….
It sounds like BBC Question Time.
Thanks for this dazed and confused.
Will now keep an eye of for Mr Jackson-who, like Esther McVey and others-has been a pearl in the teeth of the socialist dragon.
These brave fearless souls need national support and reward from the rest of us-they`re all ours now, and a bit of Conservative Self-Help for those who get threats and abuse is long overdue.
After having my comment removed on the HYS as being off topic even though I mentioned the hollow mummies My husband went through the whole lot and where they allowed comments slagging off the Tories and moaning about how the nasty Party won with no mention of the article he reported them for being off topic. So far they’ve agreed with him and taken 3 down. New Game New Game.
Story on the Bradford City stadium fire anniversary:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/32388297
Scroll down (admittedly a long way down) to the sub headline:
“Future – ‘A disaster is not black and white’
A new book, written by Valley Parade survivor Martin Fletcher, claims then-Bradford City chairman Stafford Heginbotham had previously netted millions of pounds from insurance payouts after at least eight previous fires at businesses he was associated with.”
Look at the picture they put under that accusation.
This was the disaster that was all but forgotten as the left couldn’t find police or ‘right wingers” to blame…If you revisit the video in connection with the fire, it’s absolutely horrific as to how it played out via ITV television coverage….
good God that is horrific, never seen the whole thing through before.
Agree, that is terrible. Haven’t seen that before.
Never seen that before, either.
I was struck by the number of “fans” who kept on chanting and gurning at the cameras, even after it had become clear that the stand was ablaze and lives were in danger. The police acted very bravely, from what I could see (and there were also other fans who were helping, and putting their own safety at risk in doing so).
I often wonder why we hear so little about this tragedy and yet so much about Hillsborough.
Never seen that all the way through . So horrific and the bravery shown by the Police and fans .
Look at the picture they put under that accusation.’
A photo of the ‘accused’ with Margaret Thatcher and her husband Dennis, visiting the ground after the fire.
You bastards BBC.
Jeremy Vine on Radio 2 today was debating if a breakdown in democracy was responsible for the election result. And on the News at One some commentator was speaking about Whisl suspending its delivery services and staff being notified of redundancies, “many of whom are on zero hours contracts”.
I honestly believe the BBC are waging war against the government.
The Jeremy Vine Show picked the most moronic debate about the election possible. A very odd, idiotic and censored debate about leaving the Country.
Paul O’Grady promised to leave the Country (probably for France?) if David Cameron was replaced by a Tory Government???zoink???.
The BBC debate censored any mention O’Grady, but instead Vine mentioned that in 1997, Paul Daniels and Phil Collins said they would leave the Country if Labour won. But again the BBC censored any mention of the reason why a rich Tory supporter would want to leave the Country if Labour won the election. I think it was “TAXATION“. I don’t think the BBC would have wanted to invite Collins or Daniels to have a say because the BBC’s expert speculated that it may be because of the “IDEOLOGY” of someone who wants to live in a one party state.
Interestingly, in my view, the BBC contributed greatly to the downfall of Labour. First, because its left wing bias largely reflects the views of the metropolitan elite, it totally failed to realise (and therefore to counter) the plain fact that people living outside London are much more conservative (small c) in their views. Secondly, because it saw UKIP only as a threat to the Tories, it promoted them hugely and way out of proportion to the number of MPs it had, because it thought that by doing so they were undermining the Tory vote. They only realised too late that the Labour vote was also being undermined.
I’m not sure whether you have the same BBC that I do. Far from “promote” Ukip, the party was subjected to a relentless smear campaign. Even my non-Ukip supporting husband noticed months ago that HIGNFY, for example, was one long round of “Let’s jeer at Ukip”.
Ofcom ruled that Ukip should be given “major party status” – and therefore the same amount of coverage as the other three main parties. The BBC, however, decided that it wasn’t bound to follow these guidelines. And so on…
I read that John Whittingdale MP has been appointed to head the Department of Culture Media and Sport. This is very encouraging as he has been extremely critical of the BBC. Let’s hope he can carry this through and break the organisation up, and particularly end the iniquitous licence fee.
It tells us that Mr Cameron recognises the problem and is prepared to support change.
I imagine there was a rush for the toilets at the BBC when the appointment was announced.
Yep, a very good appointment, and an obvious message to the BBC that their bias towards Labour has been noted.
Beeb strangely silent on the appointment of John Whittingdale as Minister for Culture, Media and Sport. Maybe they are not dee-lighted as this quote from Mr W illustrates “I think in the long term [the licence fee] is unsustainable. You have the question of whether or not it should remain a flat poll tax, collected through some fairly draconian measures.” We can only hope…
But as he wants to put the BBC funding onto council tax there is no reason to expect the BBC’s agenda to be curtailed
Riddle me this….
Ipsos Mori spokesman reassures our BBC reporter today that although they got their polling figures wrong…
‘it wasn’t that we didn’t ask enough Conservative voters…. it was that we had too many Labour’
So that’s ok then.
Predictably our BBC reporter asked no follow up question.
Must be the models then!
We all know that the models can never be wrong (evidence climate change models, and risk models in the banks which were all maintained to the highest degrees of propriety). – I’m being sarcastic…
I have been thinking for a long time that the models employed by the polling companies have been faulty especially as they didn’t seem to accommodate for a greater number of parties or indeed undecideds.
May I quote Peter Kellner of YouGov, who (presumably) shares a bed with a leading Labour politician when she is not off directing affairs on our behalf.
“It comes down to human psychology. Voting is a different exercise from answering a poll. It is a choice with consequences, not just an expression of view. This year, as in 1992, THE TORIES HAVE A WEAK IMAGE. They are WIDELY THOUGHT TO BE OUT OF TOUCH and for the rich.
But at the margin there may be some people who both have a poor view of the party, but nevertheless think it will run the economy better than Labour.
They are “shy Tories”, not because they are unwilling to admit their choice of party to a stranger but because they really would like to support someone else but, faced with a ballot paper in the privacy of the polling booth simply can’t”
Quote from the Eastern Daily Press.
I think we can read between the lines what he would tell a polling company if they called!.
I wonder if several of the 53% of 18-24 year olds who wanted the government to reduce expenditure seriously now in the YouGov BBC Newsbeat poll, might have put their X in the “wrong” box.
Why don’t they just rename BBC News 24 “Owen Jones 24” and be done with it. The bugger’s been on it almost non-stop since yesterday morning and he’s there again! Are the BBC at any point going to interview a Conservative about what plans the government may have? The story should be “The Conservatives Won”, not “Labour Lost”
Where did this odious little shit appear from in the first place?
And why he he given so much credence?
I hear Farage has just withdrawn his resignation. I hear this from a good source. More to follow i’m sure.
Just heard it as well, as ever Robin Brant and the bBC have their finger on the pulse (see his tweet above).
More bad news for the bBC!
“…More bad news for the bBC!”
Probably still choking on their lattes. Gotta laugh. Nigel certainly knows how to stick it up ’em.
And a big FU to Sarah Vine (also see above Tweet!)
Brant and Vicki Young finding it difficult to leave their personal views ‘at the door’?
Controversial use of quotes there, Robin. Vicki was on the News Channel; contempt for Farage’s words about pressure on his family… ‘… pretty extraordinary – you couldn’t make it up.’ said she. Well; I really don’t care if you could make it up or not, Vicki, I’m just enjoying the contrast with Labour!
You can’t keep a good man down. That should make the EU referendum (if we get one!) debate lively .
Hurrah!
Still think you “got” Farage, Bunnykins?
BBC are going full knives-out.
“…Mr Farage had said repeatedly ahead of and during the general election campaign he had no intention of staying in the leader’s job. In his autobiography, The Purple Revolution, he wrote: “It is frankly just not credible for me to continue to lead the party without a Westminster seat. He added: “Was I supposed to brief Ukip policy from the Westminster Arms? No – if I fail to win South Thanet, it is curtains for me. I will have to step down.”
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-32696505
One senses there’ll be lots of crying deep inside the BBC bunker.
Go Team UKIP!
Farage’s Back
So Farage is back.
The BBC aren’t happy.
His spine, his backbone!
Yay, Nigel returns
That “time for reflection” is
Now “Resurrection”!
You`ve set a trend here UKIP Haiku!
Thank you kind ChrisH-san. One more for you today.
Let Battle Commence!
It’s a culture war!
In which UKIP must engage.
With prose and reason.
Nigel is back. He is coming for Bunny then the BBC.
I think Bunny has gone to ground ?
She hopped off on the Clapham omnibus….last seen heading for Watership Down
Yes she was seen bobbing along with Scotty
http://www.spiked-online.com/newsite/article/why-the-opinion-polls-got-it-so-wrong/#.VVDVcBzIIsk
‘In hindsight, it was difficult to avoid the impression that the BBC itself — perhaps inadvertently — was complicit in legitimising this self-censorship of true opinion.’
Perhaps, perhaps, perhaps.
The BBC as a malign, oppressive social engineering force; who would have thought?
On Radio 4 PM around 17:25 there’s a piece on composers who have been invited to write ‘protest pieces’ well you can guess the kind of things they wanted to protest about!
One of them was protesting about the NHS and interviewing her was like an interview with a Labour party candidate.
The BBC just don’t get it that this was rejected just a few short days ago, and even though it might be of interest to them, it isn’t to the rest of us.
Sheer left wing propaganda.
Braggs Lament?
The Angels of Mid Staffs?
Harmany Suite?
Durham Miners Gaylord?
When a Tom Robinson-former scion of the Left until he got his BBC6 job-can`t even decide if he`s gay or straight…these sad and vulnerable delusional losers deserve our pity.
Let them croak over Eds Stone of Destiny, and throw each other into a open grave….as long as they pay death duties, unlike their heroes like Benn and Ralphie Milipond.
Red flag makes a suitable shroud, but keep Saviles pals away from it.
You missed out his middle name Chris, funnily enough so do wonkipedia, why be embassies by Giles ? Though I can see back in the heady Punk days the reason he kept it quiet. Being Gay in 79 was ok, being a public schoolboy called Giles perhaps not. Joe Strummer was the same ex public school type slumming it with us workers.
I used to know someone who went to school with old Giles, he said he was as queer as a five bob note as a teenager.
Embassies ? Ruddy predictive text….. Embarrassed, in both senses.
“Composer” = rapper with a jacket potato on each shoulder.
Well there’s a nifty piece of invited ‘one degree of separation’ commissioning, with added ‘nudge, nudge, wink, wink’ on what will be smiled upon… should the composer wish to see it broadcast.
The machinations at mid to high levels in the BBC is like an episode of Game of Thrones, only without the laughs.
Working on a Bhangra rap version of ‘The Witch Is Dead’ could be a fruitful route to following in Billy Bragg’s footsteps.
People try to put us d-down (Talkin’ ’bout my BBC pension)
Just because we get around (Talkin’ ’bout my BBC Pension)
Retirees do look awful c-c-cold (Talkin’ ’bout my BBC Pension)
Just hope they die as I get rich & old (Talkin’ ’bout my BBC Pension)
This is my BBC Pension
This is my BBC Pension, baby
Why don’t you all f-fade away (Talkin’ ’bout my BBC Pension)
Do come dig what we all s-s-s-say (Talkin’ ’bout my BBC Pension)
I’m trying to ’cause lefty s-s-sensation (Talkin’ ’bout my BBC Pension)
I’m just talkin’ ’bout my B-B-BBC Pension (Talkin’ ’bout my generation)
My BBC Pension
This is my BBC Pension, baby
Why don’t you all uniquely fund away (Talkin’ ’bout my BBC Pension)
And make sure you d-dig what we all s-s-say (Talkin’ ’bout my BBC Pension)
I’m trying to ’cause left of cens-s-sensation (Talkin’ ’bout my BBC Pension)
I’m just talkin’ ’bout my B-B-BBC Pension (Talkin’ ’bout my BBC Pension)
This is my BBC Pension
This is my BBC Pension, baby
My my my BBC Pension
People try to put us d-down (Talkin’ ’bout my BBC Pension)
Just ‘cos we g-g-get it ’bout right (Talkin’ ’bout my BBC Pension)
Pensioners do look awful c-c-cold (Talkin’ ’bout my BBC Pension)
Yeah, hope they die as I get rich & old (Talkin’ ’bout my BBC Pension)
etc.
I was half aghast, half chuckling at that item – it really scanned like a parody. Perhaps it would work as a subplot in the ongoing BBC self-satire with Hugh Bonneville (‘W1A’?) if the show developed some teeth? Had PM run it with a light-hearted caution about the project’s bias rather than simply presenting an unabashedly-leftist cabal as merely “political” (in Beebworld the “truly political” only ever leans one way) the programme would command my respect more. Fat chance.
The Pub Landlord Al Murray versus Nigel Farage on the Dave Channel 10.40pm tonight.
dave.uktv.co.uk/shows/election-special/
Revenge is a dish best served cold.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news
Brotherly love ?
Indeed !!
Cameron has appointed John Whittingdale as Culture Secretary. JW is no friend of the BBC, so it looks like Cameron may be about to take the BBC on. Fingers crossed
BBC 6pm propaganda broadcast just informed me the wimins footy world cup is next month in canada and england just picked their team.
no….didnt think anyone would be interested
You lucky boy ! R5 has talked about nothing else sports wise all afternoon. Yawn. Zzzzzzzzzzzzzz.
Will they all be real women,or are the “trans-sis” community invited to play in proportion to their numbers?
Banning them would surely get the BBCs thong in a pickle…and no, that`s not anything fruity!
Interesting that Thanet is the only 100% UKIP Council in the country.
Perhaps making up for voting Conservative in order to keep the SNP away?
Very, very interesting times ahead 🙂
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Suffice to say, responses could be going better so far.
Be interesting who she ends up with to illustrate what one is sure will be a very balanced piece in no way designed to form part of a constant assault on any counter views to the BBC’s most cherished ideals.
Another ‘conservative’ minister appointed
http://www.breitbart.com/london/2015/05/11/blow-for-climate-change-realists-as-amber-rudd-named-new-energy-secretary/
Dhimi Dave really going to town no he’s been unshackled from the lib/dems isn’t he?
It had to happen a bit of VE Day diversity bBC1, 7.30 Bonnie Greer presenting…
Just watched a bit of Channel 4 News. There was an interview with the new 20 year old SNP MP – I couldn’t understand a bloody word she was saying. The female interviewer was wearing a hijab. Oh what sodding joy.
I thought that she looked like Richard Jobson from the Skids!
and Nicola Sturgeon looks like Billy Bremner from Rockpile…with a bit of Aled Jones in the mix!
Into The Valley!…
….betrothed and divine.
Careful Chris you’re giving away your age by remembering The Skids! Whatever happened to Jobson ? Last I remember he was on some Saturday morning show on R4.
It was the chin,D1004!
In the case of the SNP stewdant, I wanted to hit it-and I remember Richard too had a chin like Ian Ures.
Now THAT`S my age showing….but I still wonder if “animation was the purifier”.
Which is gibberish, but turns out to be far more sensible than anything Labour and its monkeys have said in the last x years
The guy is a bit of a progger these days, working for the Yankee dollar doncha know…nice to know I’m in such esteemed musical company taste-wise, at the same time as despising the bloody BBC…
There was an interview with the new 20 year old SNP MP
I believe she is the one who defeated Douglas Alexander. I dunno what her claims to fame are – other than a liking for booze, pizza and social media. She’s studying political science so I guess she’s just getting some practical experience before she goes back to class.
I think the fact that the SNP chose her as their candidate in what was a rock solid Labour seat, only goes to show that they had no idea that they were going to have such a landslide. The SNP has gone from 6 MPs, iirc, to 56, and they will be on a very steep learning curve at Westminster. That’s another thing they will have to blame on the English I suppose.
Alexander must be smarting at being beaten by a girl barely out of her teens and with no experience in politics.
I imagine the voters don’t mind who represents them in that constituency, as long as its the SNP.
Note that Labours new “Shadow Scottish Minister” has been picked by Harriet.
The last Braveheart we`ve all come to know and fear-only Ian Murray!
Why no election Harriet?….aren`t the Scottish Labour party already moaning about too much direction from Westminster?
For all our sakes Harriet-let these Labour Scottish candidates fight it out, with a secret ballot?
Oh…
And- any chance of Labours NEC rejecting Ed Milibands resignation?
Seems to work for Nigel and UKIP-the BBC and Channel 4 seem …er..delighted!
Loyalty is an underrated virtue-come on Labour, let`s get Ed back from Ibiza to lead you all again!
And how come ED`S gone to Ibiza?…isn`t it supposed to be Venice…with a ticket in the name of Paul O Grady?
Labour are good for rockall…but a rich red seam of comedy gold!
Remember mining lads?…
Off topic:
If you think the votes to seats ratio from the last election was unfair, the Electoral Reform Society is running a petition to change the voting system. 118 000 signed so far.
http://action.makeseatsmatchvotes.org/ea-action/action?ea.client.id=1754&ea.campaign.id=38262&ea.tracking.id=msmv
Before anyone says “But we had a referendum to change the voting system a couple of years ago and no-one wanted to do so”, please remember tat the system on offer was AV, which not even the LibDems wanted.
Christ. BBC panorama tonight. *facepalm.jpg*
The BBC just can’t help the political bias.
BBC News 24 2100Hrs. Priorities.
item 1. Miliband (David) on Miliband’s (Ed) disaster.
Item 2. John Mann on Labour failures.
Item 3. UK’s new Government Cabinet appointments.
Of course we get a typically impartial report (not) from Carol Walker about UKIP refusing the resignation of the gallant Farage. Her confusion at a Party united and supportive of their inspirational, honourable leader, without in-fighting and back-stabbing did not compute. (We get the message Carol. You don’t like UKIP.)
And a left BBC left hook to Grant Green or Michael Schapps or whatever his name might be, or not be.
The BBC. More concerned with the well-being of the Labour Party, than that of the country. I guess this will be the running order at 10 o’clock too.
Update. BBC News uprated #3 to #1 on the 10 o’clock News.
…we get a typically impartial report (not) from Carol Walker about UKIP refusing the resignation of the gallant Farage.
From politics to football management, the normal process is to determine the views of those involved; in this case, UKIP members and voters. Instead, they get ignored and we’re treated to the reaction of Beeboids and lefties. Arrogant sods.
It would appear that Ian Katz who now runs BBC Newsnight is still spinning for Labour.
Ian Katz @iankatz1000 · 33m 33 minutes ago
Labour pollster tells @xtophercook public pollsters got result wrong because they asked questions in wrong order http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-32606713 …
Ian Katz @iankatz1000 · 1h 1 hour ago
Labour says it has signed up 20,000 new members since election http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/4152617c-f7fb-11e4-962b-00144feab7de.html?siteedition=uk#axzz3ZrVtYhGI …
I am sure people are flooding to a party currently with no leader and no policies!
No wonder the Newsnight audience has collapsed…
New members – a scam connected to the election of leader?
All courtesy of Unison I’ve no doubt
(When I was a member of the (once mighty) T&GWU we could get Labour party membership at a reduced rate Does that still apply with Unison does any one know? )
I joined, and you should too!
Who should I vote for as the new leader? Chucky or Burnham? I hope Abbott stands! Slam dunk! Can’t wait! Popcorn time!
I make no attempt at any analysis, but the map of England for premature deaths bears quite a resemblance to the latest election results
http://healthierlives.phe.org.uk/topic/mortality
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2669050/Are-likely-die-live-New-interactive-map-reveals-stark-differences-mortality-rates-country.html
Here is a frightening thought.
Al Beeb has been pro EU because it gets good EU subsidies and Cameron is also pro EU, despite the rhetoric.
I can see Cameron keeping Al Beeb as it is as he needs them. They will both work together to keep us in the EU.
If true the sum of its parts didn’t add up, Sky was far better value…
Mr. Naughtie found some amusement in the return of Nigel Farage – he’d better watch his step, I hope the continuing belittling of a great leader of a a great party doesn’t go unnoticed by Mr. Whittingdale…
Perhaps I could ask readers of this site to do a little research on something which happened in 2014, but has had very little coverage, and still less on the BBC.
Switzerland has trading agreements with the EU and allows freedom of movement of people between it and the EU countries.
Switzerland is not a very populous country and it doesn’t take many immigrants to make it ‘mass immigration’. There are only 5.2 million registered voters.
Unlike Britain Switzerland is a democratic country and regular referenda are held on important issues so that the people voice might be heard and acted on. One more famous one was the banning of the building of Minarets on Mosques (massively publicised by the left wing BBC).
However the more important issue is the referendum result of 2014 was titled “Against Mass Immigration”.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swiss_immigration_referendum,_February_2014
The reaction of the EU was muted at first saying that it was “disappointed” in the Swiss referendum on immigration restriction result but would wait to study how exactly the outcome of the referendum affects the relations between Switzerland and the European Union, however it wasn’t long before the EU began to behave like a petulant child.
http://rt.com/news/switzerland-eu-immigration%20vote-350/
The EU has threatened to review all bilateral agreements with Switzerland if Bern goes all the way and blocks immigrant inflow
Europe produced an acerbic response to the Swiss people’s decision: “One thing is clear: you can’t take advantage of a big European internal market and stay outside [regarding] other questions at the same time. This is what we have to discuss with Switzerland now,” slammed Martin Schulz, president of the European Parliament.
Switzerland is not free to revoke agreements with the EU at will, said Schulz.
“For us, EU-Swiss relations come as a package,” echoed Schulz’s colleague, EU MP Hannes Swoboda. “If Switzerland suspends immigration from the EU, it will not be able to count on all the economic and trade benefits it is currently enjoying. We will not allow … cherry-picking.”
The Guardian is most unhappy about the decision, and refers to anyone of the 50% who voted in favour as being “far right”.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/feb/10/switzerland-talks-eu-immigration-referendum
The BBC web page is blatantly opposed, with a big picture of the lefties protesting, and puts both the EU & Socialist position strongly.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-26108597
This is not just a matter of Switzerland shutting the door to immigration. It is Switzerland refusing to allow foreigners to buy property and settle there, whilst retaining their original citizenship. A quarter of Switzerland’s 8 million population is now foreign, putting the same pressures on housing health schools etc etc that we have seen here.
Since then, and largely unreported (hence the request for research) the EU has been putting petty rules in Switzerlands way making their daily activity with the EU more difficult. This is where the research is necessary.
This is what the EU would do if Britain left the EU, only probably worse, and it is being kept quiet so we don’t know about it.
Not sure if this is relevant but worth a mention. Before the election I was phoned by an opinion pollster who began with a list of questions regarding my age, sources of income, amount of property I owned, whether I was paying a mortgage, who earned the most – my wife or myself – and eventually my intention to vote and who I intended to vote for. I said that my political party was not standing in my constituency but that I would vote UKIP. The interviewer then asked about my political party, interjecting with ‘It’s not the BNP is it?’. At this point I became irritated and witheld the name of my party, which is the G.O.P.
Frankly, I would have refused to answer any of those questions, so I am not surprised the polls were so badly wrong.
In all honesty if they go to that level of intrusion of your private affairs I would put the phone down. An alternative would be to make things up as I went along. Who the hell are these companies that think they have the right to your information for their monetary gain? Opinion polls have got out of hand, like so much of modern life 1 or 2 is ok, 10 or 20 is over the top.
Watched The Agenda on ITV for the first time last night – I had to stay up late for some midnight spotting afterwards.
What a refreshing change from the Question Time approach. A bit of humour, no particular point scoring efforts by the participants who did not talk over each other, yet the topics were well explored and I felt a little better informed at the end.