345 Responses to Open Thread Friday

  1. Alex says:

    ‘Community leaders…’? We all know who the BBC is referring to here. The rest of us are not shocked that this happening up and down the country.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leeds-33129806

    The BBC sandal-wearing luvvies actually have sympathy for these foul cretins. The way I see it, it one less we have to worry about.

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  2. AsISeeIt says:

    BBC Breakfast bringing us a peculiar take on the meaning of Magna Carta this morning.

    A young school kid is vox popped about what he has been told about what it means for today : “It means boys and girls have a right to go to school – whatever country they come from”

    This appears to be a call for British public services to be made freely available to the people of the world.

    Is that in Magna Carta? I thought that was New Labour/BBC mass immigration policy?

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    • Dave666 says:

      Missed that, wonder if they will repeat this. So was education open to all in 1215? Now running the story about “Britain’s” youngest suicide bomber. A community leader informs us these young people are not being radicalised in mosques. They are being radicalised on line and that the people doing it are like paedophiles……
      Oh now a lecture about eating meat.

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    • Dave666 says:

      LOL just seen that clip.
      They have some how now managed to mention the migrant crisis in the med into the Magna carta story!

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    • Anne says:

      That was the sub-clause under the coffee stain, recently revealed by sophisticated X-ray techniques. I’m surprised you didn’t know that.

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      • johnnythefish says:

        I thought it was a curry stain because, as the BBC keep telling us, we’ve always been a nation of immigrants.

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  3. G.W.F. says:

    Community in shock reports BBC over the youngest suicide bomber. Or so says the muslim community leader. Oh why do the kindest, most affable, caring youngsters join ISIS, which they must know to be a band of ruthless killers?
    Judging from comments around the web, this is good riddance to a piece of murdering filth, whose parents should bugger off after him.
    Youngest eh. Perhaps he should be entered in the Guinness Book of Records. I won’t listen to Radio 5 today, that dreadful woman will be sighing, oohing and mmmming.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leeds-33129806

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  4. Thoughtful says:

    Radio 4 ‘Today’ program, and every single hand wringing report and interviewee about the ‘suicide’ bomber from Dewsbury and of most note was their studious avoidance of the words ‘Islam’ or ‘Muslim’.
    Of course to provide balance and blame whitey (as usual) there’s a wholly spurious report of a white ‘convert’, yet again though, we are not told of what he has converted to, just that he was a convert !

    For so many different people to have avoided these most obvious descriptors, there must have been instruction to do so, and would expect that the instruction would have come from a senior level.

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  5. AsISeeIt says:

    Despite this mornings extragalactic feminisim (thank the stars Prof Tim Hunt didn’t say ‘be careful of letting generous-busted women into mission control – you land on your first comet and they start bouncing up and down and the next thing you know is your lander is out of juice for next three months’)

    I’m still fascinated by Poly Toynbee’s pitch for a new BBC day-time show: ‘Loose Horses’

    A bunch of luvvies from the world of showbiz go in front of an audience and spout human-sounding plausible apparently convincing left-wingery, whilst regular politicians under the rules of regular politics just stare on looking and sounding lock-jawed.

    Oh, wait a minute, the BBC have doing this idea across several formats for years.

    Don’t know what I’m on about? See BBC’s Sunday Politics

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  6. Charlatans says:

    Thoughtful and D1004

    Maybe the BBC appointed Muslim Aaqil Ahmed, who is Commissioning Editor of Religion and Head of Religion and Ethics
    could have some input to the religious dimensions you refer to:

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/corporate2/insidethebbc/managementstructure/biographies/ahmed_aaqil1.html

    This is so wrong in my eyes. The National broadcaster of a traditional 2 millenium Christian country has no right to appoint a Muslim head of religious affairs, since the people paying tax for this service do not want it!

    You really could not make this one up!

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    • Geoff says:

      Muslims = 5% ish of the population, but 60% of the news, 15%+ of bBC news employees/presenters and 20% of bBC output….

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  7. noggin says:

    Consistent “victim narrative” from the BBC over
    Islamic … Adherent
    Islamic … Mosque attendee, now
    Islamic … Suicide bomber from
    Islamic … Republic of Dewsbury, murdering for
    Islamic … State.
    THE VICTIMS ARE THOSE HE MURDERED.
    He is the PERPETRATOR.

    Example.
    8.10am BBC 5Live News
    N Campbell s, elongated puff piece, discussing this with
    Islamist “so called” ex-recruiter and Islamic apologist.
    Nothing to do with religiosity, its because every image they see of Islam is negative, and therefore stigmatises their great peaceful religion in the media etc etc, he was erm … “groomed” by Muslims
    telling him to follow what he has read, has at home on the bookshelf, been pneumatically indoctrinated into since childhood
    Islam is the victim??? 😀

    SCRAP THE BBC … NOW!

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    • noggin says:

      Any teenager today, is seeing nothing but Islamic State, how dangerous for recruits it is, why not to go, to be aware … on the media, on TV, on the Radio … objectively, this “victim” excuse continually rolled out, just doesn t hold water.

      “His family is shocked, SHOCKED by this
      … and took the opportunity to shore up Islam’s ever-sagging image:
      “We need time and understanding to come to terms with our unimaginable and painful loss.
      As a family we would like to take this opportunity to unequivocally state that ‘Isis’ are not Islam.
      They do not represent in any way, shape or form Islam and Muslims and we are no longer prepared to allow a barbaric group like ‘Isis’ to hijack our faith.”
      That’s interesting. What will they do now?
      Challenge the imams and Muslim leaders who are doing that “hijacking”?
      Meanwhile, why was what they taught young Talha about peaceful Islam … so weak as to be unable to withstand the blandishments of these online “hijackers?”
      R Spencer.
      http://www.jihadwatch.org/2015/06/17-year-old-muslim-who-journeyed-to-the-islamic-state-becomes-uks-youngest-jihad-martyrdom-suicide-bomber

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  8. G.W.F. says:

    Perhaps this is not connected directly to BBC bias, but the message is clear. Our cops obey the muslim leaders. A situation created by BBC reverence for Islam but do not forget we have a PM nd Home Secretary who must be pulling strings .
    Choudary tells a cop off for wearing a help for heroes wristband. And the cop obeys.

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    • Guest Who says:

      The haplessness of British police really is a concern.

      Like those featured in TVL sales call vids, they stand around clueless as to what is going on around them and what the actual law is.

      Is his wearing of a charity band as described and proscribed?

      If so, precedent across the public sector, especially BBC staff and guests, may bear closer investigation.

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    • Al Shubtill says:

      When you watch something like that, it makes you think –
      “Stick a fork in it, I think this country’s done!” And we truly are f*&%$d!

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  9. Geoff says:

    I guess this had to happen, ‘Strictly Come Dancing will have a same sex couple THIS year, Craig Revel Horwood reveals’

    The whole agenda is moving scarily fast, this may suit those viewers with such an agenda, but I’m guessing will lose the majority of its older audience.

    http://www.ok.co.uk/tv/strictly-come-dancing-same-sex-couple-exclusive

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    • Dave666 says:

      I never watch it because it’s cheap crap television. Unlike the come dancing that you used to watch in olden times just before the TV went off because it was the only thing on when you got back from the pub it’s not even a dance competition now it’s a D-list celeb popularity competition.

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    • Guest Who says:

      I quite enjoyed ‘Blades of Glory’, but it was a daft comedy. I think.

      https://zippyfish.files.wordpress.com/2007/08/blades_of_glory.jpg?w=450

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      • G.W.F. says:

        Same sex dancing is OK if you have different species. Enjoy.
        One of my secrets is that I both perform and judge in these events.

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    • Rob in Cheshire says:

      I’d love to have seen the meeting when they brainstormed this in Frankie Howerd. Hopefully it will kill off the banal nonsense which is Strictly.

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    • 60022Mallard says:

      It will be a brave BBC that takes up this idea.

      I believe most people prefer not to think about homosexuality on the out of sight out of mind principle.

      If it was to be rammed down its throats on what is a very popular early evening show I believe the BBC would lose rather a lot of “support”, and in its present under pressure state that would not be a sensible thing to do.

      So this year, please!

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      • Rob in Cheshire says:

        Given that two of the Strictly judges are gay, the show is hardly homophobic. But ballroom dancing is about a man dancing with a woman, regardless of their sexuality. If the BBC seriously puts same sex couples in Strictly it will kill the show quicker than Clarkson punching a producer.

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      • D1004 says:

        Gresley’s Duck
        “Rammed down its throats “? Pleeeeeeessssee, I’ve just eaten 🙁

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  10. Guest Who says:

    Looks like Jon Donnison and team are really doing all they can to demonise the Australian government, but sadly the FaceBook folk are still not responding as they should…

    BBC World News

    Indonesia said that if Australia did pay to turn back a boat full of asylum seekers, it would mark “a new low”.

    Calls grow for [BBc code for ‘PR from people we like who we have either been contacted by or, if they are slow, the BBC has contacted to get a quote] Australian boat payment inquiry
    BBC.IN

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-australia-33130476?

    ‘What Tony Abbott’s boat rhetoric is really about’

    Glad the BBC is above any propaganda of its own.

    Meanwhile, the people have their say…

    Helen Birt – and indonesia are so honest arent they nearly every politician is on the take and why do they not stop the boats leaving indonesia in the first place

    Andrea Hill – “New low”. Bit rich coming out of Indonesia’s mouth! Scum ridden corruption is all they know. Keep turning the boats around Mr Abbott. The tough stance is being heard.

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  11. JimS says:

    Stephen Nolan experiences the Christian love of Bishop Stephen Lowe as he describes his walk up and down a mountain. The bishop nearly splits his sides on hearing of Nolan’s travails.

    Later the bishop tells us that it is our fault that the poor ‘Yorkshire lad’ has blown himself up. Apparently it is all down to ‘islamophopia’ . He thinks that young muslims should be proud of their religion. (I would have thought that jihadists are too proud and confident in their religion.).

    Our bishop is so very impressed by them, they know the bible better than him!

    Perhaps he could learn something from them, like, John 14:6
    Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.
    or Matthew 7:15-16
    “Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves.”
    “By their fruit you will recognize them. Do people pick grapes from thornbushes, or figs from thistles?”

    But then I’m not a Christian bishop so I don’t have to be ‘proud’ of my religion.

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    • Rob in Cheshire says:

      You only have to be unfortunate enough to listen to the Bishop for two minutes to know he is a wringing wet leftist, of the sort who will lead the Church of England into oblivion within a few years.

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    • Anne says:

      The title itself is hilarious:

      Dewsbury ‘in shock over UK’s youngest suicide bomber’

      It doesn’t say which Dewsbury, the ‘Asian’ one or the Yorkshire one, because they have little contact with each other. I doubt if many in proper Dewsbury could give a stuff. One less.

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    • ManchesterLad says:

      (I would have thought that jihadists are too proud and confident in their religion.).

      I must say, I think the opposite is the case.

      Their outward display of bravado and faith, I believe, is to cover up a deep insecurity and doubts they feel in their ‘religion’.

      Someone who has real faith, is not so insecure that they cannot tolerate criticism or even questioning – it’s like so much water off a duck’s back if you really believe in something.

      They cannot express these doubts, partly due to social pressure, and partly because they might be killed by their own community if they do.

      Islam is more of a cult of fear, than it is a religion. It shares elements with real religions, of course, but the basic tenet of Islam is hatred of non-muslims and a pathology to wipe them off the face of the planet.

      It’s only because they don’t really believe Islam that they are so insecure. Unfortunately for the rest of the world, this causes them immense problems in getting along with anyone else!

      I presume most Muslims feel inferior to non-Muslims, so their only way to deal with this is through constant violence, threats and intimidation.

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  12. Phil Ford says:

    The BBC exists solely as a self-serving job-creation scheme for liberal fascists and bottom-feeding ne’er-do-wells…

    http://www.breitbart.com/big-journalism/2015/06/15/do-not-adjust-your-set-bbc-luvvies-spend-more-money-on-themselves-than-public-service-content/

    Absolutely staggering.

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  13. Guest Who says:

    Another da… make that hour; another corker from the BBC fun factory that passes for a ‘news’ broadcaster:

    BBC News
    Sending explicit images of themselves on social media has become “normal” among teenagers

    Suffice to say that a fair few, and many teenagers, from the real world move in different circles of normality to the BBC kindergardeners, and certain ex-Tory MPs.

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  14. Fulgentian says:

    Just listening to Radio 5, they had an Imam on to talk about why he thinks young people are being radicalised by ISIS. The answer? It’s the government’s fault.
    How long are people going to put up with this offensive nonsense? He even described ISIS propaganda as compelling, and when he deflected all blame away from the Muslim community he went completely unchallenged by the dhimmi interviewer.

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    • Winston Smith's Tortoise says:

      R5 Business as usual then. Do they really imagine listeners don’t notice this kind of thing?

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  15. Winston Smith's Tortoise says:

    Any chance of the BBC covering this outrage?

    Leicestershire Police are scanning the faces of every person at Download Festival.

    http://noisey.vice.com/blog/download-festival-is-a-police-trial-ground-for-facial-recognition

    If you had any doubts whatsoever that we are living in an neo-fascist police state you can discard them now.

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  16. Phil Ford says:

    Want to see what the BBC is really all about? How about this gem, tucked away in last night’s BBC Four schedule?

    At the BFI Southbank, Ken Loach talks about a career dedicated to documenting social and political injustice, the importance of artistic collaboration, and the humour in his films.

    I watched it. How, I really don’t know, but I made myself watch it. It was an instructional one hour of left wing luvvies congratulating each other on being oh-so-liberal, so very politically correct and ‘socially aware’. It was also yet another opportunity for Comrade Loach to tramp the dirt down on Thatcher and get applauded for it.

    I dare you: http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b05z5frg/in-conversation-2-ken-loach-in-conversation-with-cillian-murphy

    Your license fee at work, folks.

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    • johnnythefish says:

      Don’t know how you put yourself through it, Phil, then have to contend with the BBC-defending trolls on this website who claim it’s at least impartial if not biased towards the Tories. Yours is one of those many examples, however, where defenders seem reluctant to engage.

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      • GCooper says:

        Quite right and it’s not just that they refuse to engage, they refuse to respond at all.

        The criticism of the BBC isn’t just that it is wholly biased to the liberal Left in its news broadcasting but that almost its entire output is skewed in that direction.

        The trolls and sock puppets, knowing they are on impossible ground, fall silent when the evidence is posted and just pop up every now and then to spray their tripe around before beating a cowardly retreat.

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  17. Roland Deschain says:

    Bradford’s turn to be surprised – nay, astonished – at such an outcome.

    Family of 12 missing after Saudi pilgrimage

    Three sisters and their nine children, aged between three and 15, were due back in the UK on 11 June, said Khan Solicitors on behalf of the family.
    Ten of the group are thought to have boarded a flight from Medina in Saudi Arabia to Istanbul in Turkey on 9 June.

    Although perhaps they just went to visit some Turkish cousins en route to Bradford Airport?

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    • Winston Smith's Tortoise says:

      No doubt they were overcome by their burning desire to join the righteous fight and to be repeatedly gang-banged by filthy jihadis who smell like decomposing goats, and for their children to be treated similarly.

      No accounting for taste I suppose.

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  18. D1004 says:

    Another twelve gone ‘walkabout’. ? Good. As regards the 17yo ‘sweet young lad full of yarda, yarda, yarda’, the bbc does not press the family about this description, nor their retinue of ‘helpers’ who are all ‘shocked ‘ ( what as ‘shocked’ as the families of the young bitches who went last year ?). So, just supposing they didn’t push him off with instructions to be a man and blow himself up we are left with the thought that in 6 months a young person can change from ordinary everyday into a monster who blows himself and his poor targets into pieces. Not a pleasant thought is it ? Nor one that the bloody bbc cares to air.
    It is only the problem of getting the explosive and the guns into this country that stops this happening every week on these shores, when they find a way of getting them in then it will happen. And then Pandora’s box opens. I would not want to be a Member of the religion of peace in this country after a few outrages on these shores.

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    • Winston Smith's Tortoise says:

      I wonder. I fully expect Pandora’s box to be opened (I think it already has been) and for nothing much to happen at all.

      The British have been so cowed, subjugated and brainwashed over the last 30 years or so, that I doubt we have much will or fight left in us at all.

      The disenfranchised 4 million who voted for UKIP evidently did, but the rest of the white British population stumbles on, sleepwalking into a gentle, dreamlike ‘genocide by stealth’ – enthusiastically enabled by past governments of both political stripes.

      FACT: 1 in 3 primary school children are now of ethnic minority origin.

      If that isn’t a signpost to our future, then I don’t know what is.

      The time to fight was at 20 years ago. It’s too late.

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    • G.W.F. says:

      Missing family of fanatics. Tough cack. Look out for Keith Vaz comforting the family and the Chief of Police doing one of those stunts on bended knee where he says ‘I am sorry, sorry…..wah’.

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      • Winston Smith's Tortoise says:

        The BBC will be expressing its utmost concern for these poor folk relentlessly over the next week or so.

        Oh! We are so concerned. More black armbands quick!

        Well as far as I am concerned, if the women went there of their own free will then they can die in fucking ditch. My only sympathy is with the children.

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        • D1004 says:

          ‘Give me the child until 7 and I will give you the man’ . Too late Mr Smiths Tortoise, already fully programmed murderers.

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          • Winston Smith's Tortoise says:

            Yeah, while I have sympathy for those kids, that’s not to say they won’t turn against us when they’re older.

            In fact it’s probably inevitable given their upbringing.

            And we have fucking hordes of them nesting in our country.

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  19. Dave666 says:

    BBc in full damage control mode in “youngest” suicide bombing story at 18:00. Sod the fact that 11 people died in the attack seems to be the message. Sod the fact that supposed kind & gentle individuals are upping off to commit atrocities. Because despite seeing the barbarism of (so called) ISIS all it seems take is to watch a few videos the net to change these apparent paragons of society into mindless killers. If that is indeed where they were influenced.

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    • Dave666 says:

      Oh they have a fracking story on complete with a mass demonstration well there must be about 10 protesters. Presenter doesn’t make the point that as so few turned out they don’t represent anyone…I would have done.

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    • Winston Smith's Tortoise says:

      Yes. I see the BBC have their black armbands on. Typical.

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    • IsItMe? says:

      There is a photo of the family of the “youngest suicide bomber” in The Mail. Amazing and totally surprising to think that they had an extremist in their midst…
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      • Winston Smith's Tortoise says:

        I often wonder if this is where Terry Nation drew his inspiration for the Daleks from.

        Heartless killing machines with no conscience and no visible face, driven only by hatred and ideology.

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        • D1004 says:

          In the words of Victor Lewis Smith ( no relation, I hope) and his channel 4 comedy ‘The Gay Daleks’. Exterminate! Exterminate!.

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          Sorry don’t mean to offend any peaceful religions…….

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          • Winston Smith's Tortoise says:

            I always wondered what they did with those sink plungers.

            LUBE! LUBE! MORE LUBE! EXBUMMINATE!

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  20. NISA says:

    “Look North” tells us that the Dewsbury mass murdeer was “driven to martyrdom”. Sh*ts!

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  21. johnnythefish says:

    What I learned from the BBC reporter (strong ‘British Pakistani’ accent – gotta show cultural respec, innit) in Dewsbury (‘a Mosque at one end of the street, children playing in a primary school at the other – just a normal scene in a West riding Town’):

    What a lovely lad

    Loved his family

    Loved Britain

    Brainwashed on the internet

    By…….who knows?

    But we do know it’s nothing to do with the mosques

    Nor the schools

    It’s not Islam!

    Bright A level student

    His family unreservedly condemn ISIS

    Not in their name!

    Nothing to do with the Mosques (yes, we heard you first time)

    And such a lovely lad (and that too)

    What are the authorities doing to stop it? (ah, now we know whose fault it is!)

    Can only think our reporter missed this:

    Islamic State Actually Has More Support In Britain Than In Arab Nations

    http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014/10/16/islamic-state-arab-nations-britain-support_n_5995548.html

    How odd. Islamic countries where they are a tad less liberal, understand the lingo, are pretty well 100% Muslim and should therefore be more susceptible to brainwashing manage not to be…..brainwashed. And with no intervention from the ‘authorities’.

    Funny, that.

    The BBC treat their listeners with contempt that they think their crude propaganda pieces go unnoticed.

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    • Winston Smith's Tortoise says:

      On a similar theme, my Lament for Thomas Evans:-

      Tom Evans was a lovely lad
      Nobody said a word that was bad
      He converted to Islam one fine day
      and off to Kenya he made his way

      I’ll go and fight for Al-Shabab
      because I like a good kebab
      Their muslim ways will make me see
      the Godly good that lies in me

      And if I murder a hundred kuffers
      I’ll ride that train into the buffers
      ’cause I’ll be blessed with many virgins
      to put an end to my trouser urgings

      He fell with a bullet through his head
      and the Kenyans said “thank fuck he’s dead”
      Back home the BBC was sore
      they’d see this son of peace no more

      All jihadis are born to die
      and usually they ask not why
      but go to slaughter and be slain
      and nothing of value will remain

      So here’s to Tom that plucky chap
      who lies in dirt, and sand and crap

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    • M says:

      In the interests of full disclosure I am a non European Muslim.

      “Islamic State Actually Has More Support In Britain Than In Arab Nations”

      http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014/10/16/islamic-state-arab-nations-britain-support_n_5995548.html

      I am not surprised. Given that Britain is the Island of the Anti-Christ and that ISIS is a creation of the Anti-Christ. I am not surprised at all. In fact Modern Western Civilization is also a creation of the Anti-Christ and it is from those countries that ISIS gets a lot of support – be it with cannon fodder or technology and finance.

      The End for Saudi Arabia is potentially very near!

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      • Winston Smith's Tortoise says:

        Well thanks for that.

        What you say may be true (ISIS has more support via traitors in the West than in Arab states).

        However, I cannot subscribe to your neolithic thinking regards the ‘Antichrist’ and all that bollocks.

        It’s people believing in this primitive, superstitious God vs Devil shit that has landed humanity in the soup it’s in.

        Relax. There’s no God, and no Devil, no Heaven and no fiery pit.

        This is it folks – this is all you get – this one single life you are living now, IT IS NOT a rehearsal.

        If people would only accept that, then maybe there would be a lot less blood-letting and cruelty.

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        • M says:

          Whether my thoughts regarding the Anti-Christ are “neolithic” or not, it is very important to study eschatology and specifically Islamic eschatology to understand what is happening in the world and why it is happening and where is the world heading? A secular approach will be devoid of any spiritual insight given by God and will not give humans a complete and dynamic understanding of Reality.

          Watch https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7mx-uuuCCl0. “The Critical Importance of Islamic Eschatology”.

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  22. Flexdream says:

    Apparently the entire town is in shock
    “Dewsbury ‘in shock over UK’s youngest suicide bomber'”
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leeds-33129806

    You wonder what the long suffering people of Iraq make of the fact that Britain is a source of murderous recruits to ISIS. They must be as impressed by the Libyans and Afghans with our role in the war on terror.

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  23. noggin says:

    Paris (AFP)
    French Prime Minister Manuel Valls stressed on Monday there was no link between extremism and Islam, 😀
    … as he opened a conference aimed at improving ties with France’s large Muslim community.

    … he on drugs?
    … what!, is he smoking?
    … “never … go full retard” … here endeth the lesson.

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  24. An English Gentleman says:

    I noticed one thing re this ‘youngest suicide bomber’ (Am I supposed to celebrate this?). I do think that I have been very quick on the uptake……………..Yes, I notice that he was an Asian aswell as a muslim.

    I thought I would point this out because the news media channels don’t seem to mention it.

    Clever, aren’t I?

    No, don’t answer that!!!

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    • Winston Smith's Tortoise says:

      Perhaps the Guinnes Book of World Records should be informed.

      I’m sure that would go down well as Ross McWhirter, and his brother Norris where the founders of the record book.

      Ross was of course murdered by a terrorist bomb himself.

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  25. Winston Smith's Tortoise says:

    BBC Website Front Page (19:15):-

    “Mother of UK Fighter Speaks of Grief”

    “UK Fighter” – Oh! That is just beyond the pale.

    And you know what? I don’t care about her ‘grief’ – she raised this abomination.

    I care about the grief of the mothers of the innocents this scumbag brutally murdered.

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    • G.W.F. says:

      Another lovely boy, fond of the cat as seen in the BBC photograph. Hey mum, no one gives a toss about your psycho son.

      http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-33135540

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      • Twizzle says:

        I’m glad you speak for us all. Clearly you have no children nor I expect any chance of ever having one.

        Anyone who has a child is constantly worried about them getting into danger or harm. Nobody wants to outlive their children.

        Common humanity doesn’t feature much on this site. Your loss.

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        • Demon says:

          Common Humanity? Pot Kettle! What about all the innocent people this monster murdered? Your attitude is disgusting. You clearly are the one lacking in humanity like all you BBC fascists.

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        • Dave666 says:

          I had no worries that my daughter would grow up into a bloodthirsty monster motivated by a 7th century cult. My lack of worry on this issue was well founded. However I have zero sympathy for these scum. How much humanity was shown the victims who were blown apart into a red mist? I am far more worried that my daughter has to live in a society where some can at the sight of a couple of videos/ a leaflet or a bit of a chat can drop everything to fly around the world to kill.

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        • Winston Smith's Tortoise says:

          Humanity is probably a one-way street to you, isn’t it? It’s a privilege afforded to the brown, downtrodden folk of your imagination and not to be gifted to us brutal white peasants.

          Islamist fanatic murderers are given a free pass on “humanity” in your book, aren’t they?

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        • G.W.F. says:

          Twizzle, The BBC included a picture of a cat to make this perverted monster appear in some way similar to your average potentially wayward youngster. But he wasn’t; he was a monster and for me, as a father who has shared the normal fears of any parent, the discovery that one’s child is a murdering merciless psychopath would be worse than discovering that he had died.

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      • Winston Smith's Tortoise says:

        Odd that. Cats are usually very discerning and pretty good at spotting a wrong ‘un. Many years ago in my student digs we had an young ginger tom cat who was very friendly to most visitors, but took obvious exception to others. In the end we reckoned Buster’s judgement was pretty damned sound and used him as a bellwether to vet all visitors.

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  26. chrisH says:

    Congrats must be in order for our Muslim chap who proudly gets the award for “youngest suicide bomber”.
    Here`s hoping Carol Vorderman can be persuaded to host a ” Young Jihads Award ” night for Channel 4…in the hope that plenty other retards can choose to be parted from their Air Nikes at a “Record Breakers” velocity…with Norris McWhirter to verify speeds achieved, and matching birth certificates to prove those ages they claim to be.
    Oh dear-end of brainwave-they`re all forty and pretend to be 16 just to get into the childrens homes!
    Well-

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    • Winston Smith's Tortoise says:

      Oh God don’t give Channel 4 any ideas (at least not without a fee).

      I can just see it now, John Snow presenting a gold-plated statuette of an exploding martyr.

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    • Rob in Cheshire says:

      It would be a funny awards ceremony: “Unfortunately the winner can’t be with us tonight, but he did leave us this martyrdom video.”

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  27. Al Shubtill says:

    Radicalized on the internet my arse! –
    “Behind every Islamic terrorist is an Imam” Oriana Fallacia, ‘The Rage And The Pride”

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  28. AsISeeIt says:

    Cathy Newman, Channel 4 reporter and recently Twitter-star of that ludicrous ‘not welcome at the Mosque’ kerfuffle http://www.theguardian.com/media/2015/feb/12/mosque-deeply-disappointed-by-cathy-newmans-reaction really is a piece of work.

    She seems to represent everything that is unpleasant and superficial about the modern liberal media.

    This evening she serves up an interview with a remarkable and eminently likable lady. The interviewee is, unfortunately, dying of cancer. The viewers thoughts and sympathies naturally go out to her and her family. But as for Cathy Newman…. yuck. (Fingers down throat gestures)

    Two of her questions – for me at least – spelt out the unthinking machine-liberal media training of our Cathy and clearly expressed the grubby greivance truffle-ing void of darkness at the very heart of Channel 4 and BBC and other liberal-tinged broadcasters.

    Newman: “…are you angry…?”

    With what or about whom? God? Fate? The NHS?

    Newman: “…do you feel a sense of injustice…?”

    Heh, Newman…. wake up… the poor woman is dying of a disease!

    I hope this post makes sense. These things make me angry. It is an injustice that our media treats us in this way.

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    • Angrymanupnorth says:

      It makes sense to me. These things make me angry too.

      If they didn’t, I’d be ‘Manupnorth’ I guess. 🙂

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    • Winston Smith's Tortoise says:

      Yes your post makes perfect sense.

      Some people always want to ascribe or attribute any misfortune to a third-party. My wife had breast cancer and thankfully has survived it, so far – although she’ll never be ‘out of the woods’ completely.

      She never blamed anyone, or felt ‘a sense of injustice’. She was never that ‘angry’ about it. She always was, and is, perfectly rational about her condition – and I think that attitude helped her through the frankly, bloody awful, treatment regime.

      She’s still here, I’m still here, we soldier on.

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      • RJ says:

        WST,

        I hope your wife’s remission is long term and it translates into “cured”, but if it all goes wrong you will be grief stricken, and part of that grief will be anger. Not at the doctors or the NHS of God, but at the unfairness of it happening to someone who didn’t deserve it. If we think about it for even a moment we all know that life isn’t fair, but emotionally we think that it should be, and when the unfairness harms someone we love we are angry – even if the anger is unfocused.

        Newman’s questions were utterly stupid and, in the context, hurtful, asked by someone with a small brain and no heart.

        Good luck with the remission.

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        • Winston Smith's Tortoise says:

          Many thanks RJ for you kind comments.

          You are quite correct in your statement: Life isn’t fair. In fact it is often egregiously bloody unfair.

          I have been through the grief stricken bit as well, having lost my younger sister to breast cancer last September.

          We soldier on as best we can and put two defiant fingers up to it all.

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  29. Winston Smith's Tortoise says:

    Lament for Thomas Evans

    Tom Evans was a lovely lad
    Nobody said a word that was bad
    He converted to Islam one fine day
    and off to Kenya he made his way

    I’ll go and fight for Al-Shabab
    because I like a good kebab
    Their muslim ways will make me see
    the Godly good that lies in me

    And if I murder a hundred kuffers
    I’ll ride that train into the buffers
    ’cause I’ll be blessed with many virgins
    to put an end to my trouser urgings

    He fell with a bullet through his head
    and the Kenyans said “thank fuck he’s dead”
    Back home the BBC was sore
    they’d see this son of peace no more

    All jihadis are born to die
    and usually they ask not why
    but go to slaughter and be slain
    and nought of value will remain

    So here’s to Tom that plucky chap
    who lies in dirt, and sand and crap

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  30. Dover Sentry says:

    The BBC has not considered the following:

    Is it possible to groom online a Buddhist to commit acts of terror?

    Is it possible to groom online a Hindu to commit acts of terror?

    Is it possible to groom online a Christian to commit acts of terror?

    Is it possible to groom online a Jew to commit acts of terror?

    Perhaps the BBC will one day consider the above and give these ‘challenging’ questions the airtime they deserve?

    Or maybe not…

    ..

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    • Winston Smith's Tortoise says:

      Well, I’m not a religious person, but I get the gist.

      All of these faiths have historically had a violent aspect (yes even Buddhists).

      It all comes down to the ownership of land, territory and the wealth thereof.

      The ‘religion’ is merely a dressing used to justify the land grab.

      Practically all religions have used the “God is on our side” slogan to land grab and loot since time immemorial.

      Any religion, at its extreme fringes will use terror to further its aims and desires.

      However, there is one religion above all others that will mercilessly grab any territory it can and put unbelievers to the sword, and we all know who that is.

      Don’t expect any BBC ‘history” programmes to expound on that, will you.

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