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Like the waves of mass immigrants surging onto the beaches of Europe that seem so unstoppable the BBC’s bias washes over us also seemingly unstoppable……let’s hear what you’ve seen….

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  1. noggin says:
    June 28, 2015 at 11:50 pm

    “and EVERYONE ELSE ACROSS BRITAIN! … will reflect on the universal values that Ramadan represents?
    … and the contribution? that British Muslims make to our country”.
    D Cameron

    Islamic State in Palestine and tells all Christians to leave by Ramadan’s end, or all be killed
    http://www.jihadwatch.org/2015/06/islamic-state-in-palestine-tells-christians-to-leave-by-ramadans-end-or-be-killed

    “Good thing the Vatican recognized the “State of Palestine.”
    Pope Francis can call in these good folks and explain to them that “authentic Islam and the proper reading of the Koran are opposed to every form of violence.”
    Abashed, they will lay down their arms?”
    R Spencer

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  2. dave s says:
    June 29, 2015 at 12:27 am

    Long long drive today and I noticed the R4 news always lead on the Greek crisis.
    Now that maybe interesting but the murder of now it seems arouind 30 of our people in Tunisia is going to be one of those key events that are of an order of magnitude somewhat greater than a row over the Euro.
    It cannot be played down or airbrushed away however much our elites wish to do so,
    From now on I would suggest that anyone visiting on holiday any of the Middle Eastern or south shore of the Med countries is actually irresponsible and lacking in an instinct for self preservation. Isis and it’s like have declared war on us. Those countries where they have their roots are just far too dangerous now to visit. The holiday trade is over. Finished for the foreseeable future. Our government is irresponsible if it does not recognise this.
    No doubt the usual suspects will go on and on about statistics etc but the fact remains that these countries are now too dangerous for us .A holidaymaker does not have to go and I suspect that thousands of individual descisions have been made.
    It is not ‘giving in’ to terrorists it is accepting the reality of a war that is intensifying daily.
    The first duty of our government is to protect the nation. This is over and above any other consideration. So that means that we must control our borders in any way we choose.
    Sorry liberals that means heavily restricting asylum and no appeals to our better nature. Listening to the BBC you would think that these realities are something that can be wished away by endless chattering.
    They cannot and I would like the liberal elite to face up to things before it is too late for them and for us.

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  3. Merched Becca says:
    June 29, 2015 at 12:40 am

    The Times. – ‘Sub-machineguns have been smuggled into Britain ‘.
    Its not looking good Mr Prime minister, not with all those migrants crossing the Med and heading this way .

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  4. The Old Bloke says:
    June 29, 2015 at 8:21 am

    So, P.M. David Cameron has this morning repeatedly stated that Islam is a “great religion”. Oh dear, oh deary me.

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  5. AsISeeIt says:
    June 29, 2015 at 8:24 am

    “He was an avid breakdancer… he came from a poor family…”

    – Spare him his life, from his monstrocity?

    That’s what we ask ourselves in reply to a barely intelligible BBC reporter quite obviously picked for her tickbox value now on the beach in Tunisia.

    What’s the trouble BBC, all senior white male reporters too busy worshipping at the shrine of Barry Obama?

    I’ve nothing against Ms Jawad – except that she sucks at her job. And you suck at yours BBC. Hard to understand, confused emphasis from her mangling of English – and, frankly, disrespectful references to the perpetrator of this terror act.

    American victims of a terror shooting recently got a personal visit from the President and a rendition of Amazing Grace.

    What do we reckon Cameron will come up with? I think he’ll leave it to the BBC. A bit of karaoke chillaxing, wait a respectful moment or two, then move on like Billy Oh.

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  6. Stuart B says:
    June 29, 2015 at 8:27 am

    Wow! I think I just spotted something new and astonishing at the BBC.
    The Guardian is apparently opining this morning that Greece should never have been allowed to be part of the Eurozone, and Grexit is probable and even desirable (I may have got this wrong, I am just going on how this was reported on the Today programme just now). So, this is presumably now a dominant strand of current left-liberal opinion.
    The BBC, though, is astonishingly, and almost uniquely, departing from the line of its newspaper partner. The thrust of all its reporting language this morning – the interview with a Greek MEP, and Mr Peston’s comments – is uniformly that Grexit would be an unmitigated disaster for the Greek people, that it would represent a betrayal of them by their government, and that the call for a referendum has somehow ’caused’ the ECB to pull the plug on the Greek banks.
    This is the first time I can recall the BBC being openly, indeed blatantly, in the pocket of the movement for European political union, that technocratic left-centrist fascism which is so uncomfortable with any expression of genuine democracy. It has shown its cards in no uncertain terms.
    I had been expecting some internal conflict on the BBC’s part, faced with this ‘theatre of the left’, the conflict between European centralism and left-populism – which side would it come down on? Well, now we know – it is dedicated to the EU political project to the extent that it will discard and deride any democratic legitimacy in any of the EU’s ‘pseudo-sovereign’ states. I guess that what is new, for me, is the realisation that it will part company even with the British liberal-left in order to pursue this programme on behalf of what are evidently its new masters in Brussels and Strasbourg.
    If this is true, then can we expect the BBC to simply set sail on a course of its own, anchored solely to that offshore political organisation, and finally divorced entirely from mainstream British opinion on the Left and the Right?

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    • Arthur Penney says:
      June 29, 2015 at 1:04 pm

      You have to understand – because the Greek left-wing Syriza group has made such a horlicks of the Greek Economy – the BBC have to protect their reputation – and their spin is that they should never have been in this position in the first place.

      Understand?

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      • Rob in Cheshire says:
        June 29, 2015 at 2:04 pm

        Syriza are indeed left wing barmpots, but they did not screw up the Greek economy. It was a basket case when they took power. The EU “bailouts” had shrunk the economy by 25%. Greece’s only hope for recovery is to leave the Euro and issue their own currency, but we will have to see if the Greek people have the national self-confidence to do this on Sunday. If they do, it will be a huge blow for the EU power structures, which is of course why the BBC is all for Greece staying in the Euro, even though it means economic disaster for the country. As far as the BBC is concerned, Greece has to take one for the team.

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  7. Dave666 says:
    June 29, 2015 at 8:52 am

    Carol Kirkwood is surprise at Wimbledon. But in a value enhanced weather forecast she asks the grounds man what he does. My understanding of the weather today is greatly enhanced. Is she there for the whole of Wimbledon?

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  8. noggin says:
    June 29, 2015 at 9:35 am

    BBC 5Live – Your Call … Tunisia … what to do
    after a string of muslim callers, news updates, weather and traffic news
    25mins … Far Right, Far Right Christians – UKIP – Islamic Mass Murderers … they re all on the same spectrum?
    After muslim apologists, we have erm … non muslim apologists
    … balance?
    no link yet.

    Grainard – French beheading: suspect confesses to boss’s murder but motives unclear
    Yassin Salhi tells police he wanted to kill himself and stage media coup by dressing it up as terrorist

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    • noggin says:
      June 29, 2015 at 9:56 am

      Closely followed by elongated segment with the Islamic human rights 😀 commission, claiming that … all muslims in the UK are now being targeted.
      Could not make it up.

      ….. off switch.

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  9. Leamas says:
    June 29, 2015 at 9:38 am

    An American guest on the Five Live phone-in has just compared UKIP to the Nazis. Even Dame Nikki spluttered. Guests are given pre-interviews so they likely knew what she was going to say.

    A few minutes before 9.30 if you want to hear it on listen again.

    Close this station. These unfortunate “errors” happen with monotonous regularity. I’m not even a UKIP voter and I’m disgusted.

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  10. Dave666 says:
    June 29, 2015 at 9:41 am

    The TV is on as I’m going out shortly the Crimewatch roadshow is on and I can feel my brain melting. Truly naff for some reason they have decided to put carry on standard puns into the script whilst Sonali Shah waffles on and on.

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  11. UK Enrichment News says:
    June 29, 2015 at 9:51 am

    I just cannot believe what I am hearing on the news, this morning. Endless commentators panicking about avoiding the words ‘Islamic’ and ‘Terrorist’; what a bunch of big craven jessies! One prat was even gibbering about what could possibly be the course of such an atrocity; he went on to say that it was obviously the actions of a lone-wolf madman. These cowardly big lefty sissies are falling over themselves to avoid highlighting the massive elephant in the room. Utterly pathetic!

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  12. G.W.F. says:
    June 29, 2015 at 10:20 am

    Cameron and the BBC sing from the same hymn sheet over Tunisia and ISIS. It will take time to defeat their narrative. He is taking Appeaser May with him to Tunisia – is she looking out for NAZIs as she indicated yesterday? Neither Cameron nor the BBC will identify the problem and threat with Islam itself, just the extremists.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-33307279

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    • Stuart B says:
      June 29, 2015 at 10:30 am

      D’you think this suppressive narrative is about to come undone, big-time? Everyone can see that it is Islam that is the seed-bed for jihadism – ‘radicalisation’ is just the watering can that develops the latent image of lunacy.
      The only trouble is, if they let the cat out of the bag on this one, they will have to admit the truth about all the other anti-rational, anti-Enlightenment cults, movements and tendencies – Green zealotry, Gay Pride-ism, Neo-Feminism, not to mention all the traditional religions hoping to surf the wave and pick up lapsed members . Aggressive, radical scepticism about everything, a thorough-going and brave New Enlightenment – that is the only way to deal with the ‘irrationals’, from the Pope to the Caliphate..

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      • dave s says:
        June 29, 2015 at 11:37 am

        Excellent post. The world view of the elite is about to implode. Fantasy meets reality on the beach in Tunisia.
        The tragedy is that particularly in the West the elites are so enamoured of their fantasy worlds that they are literally now insane.
        The vast majority of us never shared their world and have no time for it. That we allowed them time and space and the power to implement their absurdities is a reflection on us as well.
        It will end this absurd world of theirs but with much pain and for that there can be no forgiveness.

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    • Ian Rushlow says:
      June 29, 2015 at 11:07 am

      Cameron is reported on the BBC as saying that IS poses “an existential threat to the West”. No, Mr Cameron, it’s the likes of you and the BBC that pose the existential threat to the West, with your schizophrenic policies of pissing off the Muslims of the world whilst simultaneously importing large numbers of them to Europe and then denying the problems you’ve caused. The comment the other day about “Islam being a religion of peace” was disgraceful: the correct message would have been “We will seek out and exterminate these killers regardless of who or what they are”.

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  13. dontblamemeivotedukip says:
    June 29, 2015 at 10:30 am

    So I’m reading this update on the Tim Hunt stitch-up in breitbart
    (Has the BBC reported on the fact that the accusations were effectively manufactured by a group of feminist academics whose version of events has been de-bunked?) and it turns out his main accuser works almost exclusively for – you guessed it – the BBC mainly it would seem radio 4 and the world service.
    http://www.breitbart.com/london/2015/06/29/british-nobel-laureate-crucified-for-sexism-by-woman-with-little-credibility/

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    • GCooper says:
      June 29, 2015 at 12:06 pm

      This is a major story, as you say, particularly given the number of internationally renowned scientists who have dared poke their heads above the parapet to support Sir Tim, who was stitched-up by a raving loon and then hung out to dry by the head of UCL (who deserves both the sack and the widest possible exposure for his arrogant posturing).

      So, no, the BBC will not report the truth about what actually happened. It is right on side with the loons, as it demonstrated with last week’s shameful ‘science’ programme on R4. I can’t remember its name – probably something like ‘Witchcraft Today’.

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  14. flexdream says:
    June 29, 2015 at 11:02 am

    Just watching the BBC Sunday Politics http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b05zvvcr/sunday-politics-london-28062015
    How did this slip through the BBC net? More truth about Islamism than any of the government platitudes or usual BBC propaganda. Well done Andrew Neil.

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  15. NISA says:
    June 29, 2015 at 11:49 am

    The BBC as usual fail to mention Janner’s political allegiance, & then not directly, until the penultimate para

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-33310095

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  16. Guest Who says:
    June 29, 2015 at 12:01 pm

    Seems the ID thieves have again run riot with the thread, so let’s ease into the week with some other news (3 URL’s tops)…

    http://tradingaswdr.blogspot.co.uk/2015/06/just-saying.html

    A worthy plea. I find his contributions often informative.

    ‘A proper Director of BBC Music would now call for tapes of all presenters at the event and ask if any of them had done any prep, and knew any synonyms for “amazing”.’

    Maybe if they paid them even more money? Still, guest slots on W1A ensured without needing scripts.

    http://tradingaswdr.blogspot.co.uk/2015/06/minder.html

    Ziiiiing! Because he’s worth it.

    And now, some heft:

    http://tradingaswdr.blogspot.co.uk/2015/06/detail-man.html

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  17. PC Plod says:
    June 29, 2015 at 12:14 pm

    No, we won’t be calling. It is not an offence to wish that someone is dead.

    hth.

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  18. G.W.F. says:
    June 29, 2015 at 12:27 pm

    US celebrates gay marriage as reported by the BBC. Pictures of nice young men celebrating equality. Ooops.Sorry, this picture was not included in the BBC report.
    Equal dignity in the eyes of the law eh.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-33290341

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    • dontblamemeivotedukip says:
      June 29, 2015 at 5:16 pm

      political debate Scott, there is no debate on this subject with you Scott – And that picture makes the point, ‘Gay marriage’ was never about equality ( As I pointed out to you ages ago you already had that) it was always about further trivialising the institution of marriage as means of deconstructing traditional morality

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      • dontblamemeivotedukip says:
        June 29, 2015 at 6:04 pm

        “Really? If you’re so against trivialising marriage, why do you stay silent about drive-thru wedding chapels in Vegas? ”
        But I don’t ( the clue to that is in the statement “further trivialising”)
        “: why should I expect a decent quality argument from a Biased BBC commenter?”
        Says the petulant teenager who resorts to puerile ‘whataboutism’s’ rather than address the argument.
        At least the last time we had this debate you lasted a whole 3 posts before resorting to ‘nah nah nah that’s you that is’
        But I’m patient Scott so I’ll try again
        In my view the value in marriage isn’t in the degree of superficial gratification it grants to any individual (however adorable you might think they are) but to the stability and cohesion it adds to society in general and the security it affords woman and children in particular.
        The fact that it has been undermined already isn’t a reason to further undermine it.
        Perhaps that’s what you mean by equality – the right to be as selfish and destructive as Britney Spears or Russell Brand?

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        • Roadtodomestosmoment says:
          June 29, 2015 at 10:07 pm

          …From the man who finds a terrorist who murdered three innocent people “hot”.

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        • dave s says:
          June 29, 2015 at 11:56 pm

          The conservative ( not political) position is that the liberal left is using gay marriage as yet another way of undermining custom and tradition. It has nothing to do with gay marriage per se but everything to do with undermining a key component of our civilisation in order to break down and build the world into their fantasy desired future .
          To put it bluntly . The left is not interested in gays being fulfilled by marriage. Marriage is the target and any weapon will be used to destroy it and the family.
          I suppose the reasoning is that once marriage is deconstructed and becomes something not part of custom and tradition then the work is done.

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          • dontblamemeivotedukip says:
            June 30, 2015 at 1:01 am

            Indeed it is telling that up until recently both the ‘liberal left’ and the old ‘hard left’ considered marriage a bourgeois anachronism , a meaningless piece of paper fit only for the dustbin of history. Now it has become an inalienable human right for any one to play queen for a day regardless of gender

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            • Stuart B says:
              June 30, 2015 at 7:37 am

              D’you know, that hadn’t occurred to me – how wonderful, the somersaults performed by those of ‘impaired integrity’ – the circus of the Left never disappoints!

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  19. Late result - BBC 42+ Grant Shapps 1 says:
    June 29, 2015 at 12:37 pm

    An election campaign was running, so Tories had to be bashed.

    Accusations
    The BBC picked up the story on both radio and TV, broadcasting this accusation on 42 separate occasions within 24 hours. And more since.

    Correction
    Unless someone was listening to one specific 6pm radio broadcast, they would simply never know that the original story was entirely inaccurate. Indeed the correction was broadcast only once and lasted just 25 seconds:

    Commenting Grant Shapps said, “The lack of desire to correct a false and misleading story, despite it having been broadcast on 42 separate occasions, does raise serious concerns for everyone who wants to see balanced coverage from the nation’s leading broadcaster. Incredibly a Millbank News Editor even rang me to claim that a single 25 second clip on one radio programme had effectively dealt with the matter. I’m a strong supporter of the BBC, but in this case insufficient care was taken to carry out even the most basic fact checks before running the original story. For example, the original claim was made by a single politically-driven administrator, rather than Wikipedia itself.

    “Yet when the story fell apart the BBC did not seem to believe it was their job to update their viewers and listeners who had been mislead by their coverage in the first place. This would appear to breach Rule 5.2 of the Ofcom code and I have written to the Director of News and Current Affairs, James Harding, to ask him to investigate.”

    http://www.shapps.com/2015/06/wikipedia-story-and-the-resulting-bbc-coverage/

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    • 60022Mallard says:
      June 29, 2015 at 12:57 pm

      The 42 is, of course, only national news broadcasts.

      Doubtlessly it also made it to regional broadcasts being at a time of intense anti Tory activity throughout the BBC

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      • Late result - BBC 42+ Grant Shapps 1 says:
        June 29, 2015 at 1:18 pm

        Indeed. Let’s hope Grant Shapps, “strong supporter of the BBC”, has had his eyes opened.

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    • Roland Deschain says:
      June 29, 2015 at 1:26 pm

      “I’m a strong supporter of the BBC”

      I wonder what it might take to make you reconsider that position, Mr Shapps?

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  20. ROBERT BROWN says:
    June 29, 2015 at 12:38 pm

    Something i’ve noticed with the BBC’s coverage of the chancers coming from Africa and some of their interviews.I have counted three occasions where the chancer was asked what they did for a living….they all said…i am electrical engineer…..really? I would ask the question of them, what is the voltage rate in Somalia, Sudan Eritrea eg…..then how do you find the current in a circuit, equation?….what’s a ballast resistor…and so on, and if these simple, basic questions are too hard, then they are imposters. I reckon the traffickers tell them what to say to smoothe their path, then disappear ……anyone agree? Come on BBC, ask the right questions.

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    • 60022Mallard says:
      June 29, 2015 at 12:52 pm

      You seem to think that the BBC interviewer has more knowledge on electrical matters than the average Guardian reader on the streets!

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  21. flexdream says:
    June 29, 2015 at 12:48 pm

    In the same way that Teresa May knows that neo-Nazis are as much of a threat as Islamists, the BBC knows that the threat on social media comes from the white racists;
    “What should social networks do about hate speech? …. The posts were made under a thread or “subreddit” called Coontown – which, as the offensive name suggests, is a corner of Reddit made up mostly of virulently racist and white supremacist posts.”
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-trending-33288367
    Has the BBC not heard of the 39 white Europeans singled out for murder by the Islamist gunman in Tunisia who killed no Arabs?
    Really, who still believes the guff peddled by the government and the BBC? Can’t we hear some more about the hardship and discrimination suffered by this Tunisian terrorist who was reduced to studying for a postgraduate degree? What choice did he have but to murder Britons? If only he’d read the Koran he would know not to murder infidels.

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