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How many people think that once Corbyn has been announced as the new Labour Party leader on September 12th, with Tom Watson probably as his Deputy, that the BBC will refer to Labour as “Far-Left” in the same way as they refer to UKIP as Far-right?
No, me neither.
I’m guessing Corbyn will not be referred to as controversial or divisive either.
Until he cranks up the top rate of Income Tax to 65% when the highly paid news presenters will be telling us how awful he is and that “it won’t work, it’s a throwback to Old Labour” and “it will not bring much in” before they scurry off to see their accountants.
Up2 , All highly paid Beeboids use personal service companies to avoid tax, so will only be affected if company tax is increased significantly. The strange thing is that when the BBC refer to tax avoidance, they never refer to their own tax avoidance !
I think you may find that the Chancellor has gone some way to address the personal service company “avoidance” issue in his last budget, but I cannot remember how!
The bBBC today has been reporting Burnham’s latest dog-whistle attempt to whip up the loonies, invoking the ghost of Mrs Thatcher by saying Corbyn would take Labour back to the 1980s when Labour was ineffective and couldn’t stop Margaret Thatcher from destroying the country. Conveniently forgetting that the reason Thatcher was in power wasn’t because Labour was useless; it was because people voted for her policies and party.
But he’s not divisive, is he? He’s brought together members of diverse parties such as the Socialist Workers Party and UKIP to vote for him.
… And the conservatives and greens, but for entirely different reasons. What we cannot know until after Corbyn is elected, (if he wins), is how many of his supporters are genuine, and how many are faking it to help him destroy the labour party’s threat to this country.
Well the far-right comment was from Matthew Price. Check his twitter account and you’ll note his upset at a newspaper report of a trial involving a Romanian, when he suggests his nationality should not be part of the story. Too much of this sort of thing, he suggests, and reckons a factual description of the alleged perp is ‘casual racism’.
That guy will go places at the BBC.
That’s because far-left people are nice and friendly and would never do anything to harm another soul.. Just look at Stalin, Chairman Mao and Pol Pot.
The real irony here is that UKIP isn’t even far-right yet still get called far-right. Labour under Corbyn would indeed be far-left but they wouldn’t call it as such.
The real irony here is that UKIP isn’t even far-right yet still get called far-right. Labour under Corbyn would indeed be far-left but they wouldn’t call it as such.
In fact that is exactly what happened in the course of one item on this morning’s Today.
Corbyn was described as on the Labour ‘left wing’, whilst the same reporter reflected on how Labour lost many of its voters in the election to the ‘far right’ UKIP.
Sly – very sly – use of language by the BBC. They are bastards for it but here at least, on Biased BBC, we’ve got their cards marked.
Corbyn’s supporters were described as people “having left wing ideals” the other night on the BBC news. Not as people “having far left ideals” or even people who are “extreme left wing”.
So being far far left is now an “Ideal” to the BBC?
Why is it that only the lefties can have “ideals”. Whereas any right-wing philosophy is deemed to be prejudice or worse.
Manchurian candidate Gordon Brown ” It’s all about being electable.” Hmm, so it’s all about power for power sake and no convictions. His finest hour Gillian Duffy and Bigotgate
David, Well Gordon Brown knows what it is like to be unelectable !
LOL !!
It is going to be interesting to see how the BBC report when Corbyn appoints a load of failed nonentities to the shadow cabinet and fails to impose any discipline or cohesion on the party. It would be so funny if it triggered an “SDP moment “. Personally, I am enjoying the fun, especially the BBC’s part in it. Just resent having to pay for the BBC entertaining me !
>It is going to be interesting to see how the BBC report when Corbyn appoints a load of failed nonentities to the shadow cabinet and fails to impose any discipline or cohesion on the party.<
You can rest assured that it won't necessarily be in the way you would expect An Official Opposition that cannot oppose will cause some unique problems of the kind we haven't seen before, for the Government as well as for Labour.
Do they continue to share top secret security information for instance?
You can rest assured that the BBC will try to shake things up so that it is the evil Tories to blame!
nofan, I had not thought of that or the security aspects. If they share with Corbyn , it will go straight to the enemies of the UK. Frightening !
With pro-EU traitors like Cameron. Its already happened.
Good point Richard.
labour’s disunity and on-going internal civil war will be described in terms such as “broad church” or “representitive of a diverse society” or “eclectic” whereas if the same were happening to any other party, then the descriptive phrases would be “deep splits” or “divided party” or “disunity” or “ungovernable rifts”
I wish I could enjoy the meltdown of Labour. But in the same way as the BBC enjoyed reporting the Arab Spring and how wrong they were for the people of those countries getting a better life, I truly fear that what we are seeing is something truly disastrous for this country. Janet Daley in the Telegraph suggests that a Corbyn win and an unelectable Labour Party will give them every justification to take to the streets, strikes led by the unions etc etc. An attack on democracy. I think at least we are going to be in for a very bumpy ride. The best solution will be for Miliband major, like a knight in shining armour, to take over the Labour Party at the same time as Dave hands over to George. But Miliband Major in his interview with the BBC after little bro’s defeat showed he was no better than his brother. A Miliband leader again will, I stress, only be the better solution, but still a terrible one.
Lets party like its 1983!
The predictions by Janet Daley sound entirely plausible. Trade unions holding the nation to ransom – public utility and transport strikes etc.
Last time nthat happened Maggie faced them down. But before that Heath had faced industrial chaos – which Labour condoned – and in the end a spineless electorate voted Harold Wilson back in, in 1974, to “put things right”. That was the start of endless industrial appeasement causing rampant inflation and ending in the Winter of Discontent.
Daley’s worry is that come 2020, if there has been endless trouble – sanctioned by Labour – a weary electorate might vote Corbyn in.
This is why the tories need to replace Cameron with a candidate who has a backbone, when Cameron stands down after the referendum.
They won’t though Geyza, they don’t have anyone.
I believe it’s true that a Liebore party led by BBC favourite Coorbin would lead to more ‘direct action’ on the streets but isn’t it about time we met these bustards on their own terms. They have got away with intimidation and threats against the majority for too long now.
Having the menshevik strand of Liebore in charge (whether it be Burnem, Kindle, or Mrs Balls) ,they inflict their leftist idiocy upon us by stealth anyway .
Fook it.
Let the games begin!!!!
‘….I am enjoying the fun, especially the BBC’s part in it…’
I wonder? Has anyone been keeping count of the number of Times Newsnight has covered this story? (I find it unwatchable for more than 5 minutes now – so I suppose in one sense it’s unfair to ask anyone else about Katz’ seemingly nightly coverage of his Labour colleagues travails).
Perhaps I should FOI them.
Good luck with that.
Newsnight has devoted 23 slots to the Labour Party contest and counting.
It is of course the Party’s house broadcaster.
It is going to be interesting to see how the BBC report when Corbyn appoints a load of failed nonentities to the shadow cabinet…
Well from today’s reports, it sounds like Andy ‘Div 2 Football Manager Soundalike’ Burnham could well be one of ’em.
Gordon Brown was a Prime Minister that was never voted into power by the British Electorate. He decided it was his time and nagged until he got his way. When they got the chance to express an opinion he was out. I don’t think he can give lectures on electability.
Al BBC, on immigrants
The dangerous night-time dash to Kos
The fight for food and water in Kos … The indepth report
Vienna hotel run by refugees
The Calais SOP schlop, etc etc
“European officials say the plight of migrants, almost 250,000 of whom have crossed by boat to the continent this year, is “beyond urgent”… a thought for the consequences? nah! don t be silly
Meanwhile, in the real world … immigrants
“Muslim and Gypsy Gangs Battle For Supremacy on Streets of Europe,”
Breitbart, Aug 16 “Brutal and ruthless” Muslim, and “violent” Roma gypsy gangs are terrorising the streets of dozens of major European cities, as they vie for control of lucrative black market trade. Running drug rings and pimping prostitutes, as well as “owning” legitimate street businesses can be worth tens of millions of euros a year – and more – to the immigrant criminal gangs of Europe. Having influence over territory is key to making this business model work.”
http://www.breitbart.com/london/2015/08/16/muslim-and-gypsy-gangs-battle-for-supremacy-on-streets-of-europe/
Example
“Berlin police estimate of the 30 criminal Muslim family clans in Berlin, each of which has up to 500 members, one tenth of all members are engaged in serious criminal activity at any given time. And they dominate the criminal landscape: a German senate report found that between 2011 and 2014, the majority of all gang crime suspects in the country were of “Arab origin”.
I saw on SKY news the other day a large African gentleman, he looked like Idi Amin, hanging off the back of a lorry with his legs akimbo, the doors of the truck swinging open, he fell off, police chased him. Why doesn’t SKY just speed the film up and stick on the Benny Hill theme because it’s beyond a joke.
BBC London News last night (10pm) had an absolutely heart-rending story about a 5 year old Romanian boy (I think it was) at Great Ormond Street suffering from Leukemia. It seems that because of his background, nationality etc, the chances of finding a suitable match to give him the chance of a full recovery. The chances were becoming slimmer and slimmer with every day that passed.
Now, obviously I don’t have a heart of stone, and I really feel for the little chap his parents and family etc, but I wonder why they picked him as the example. Surely there are other examples involving British children too?
Last week BBC Look North headlined on two stories about sex change children, one Look North headline had a Girl looking in a wardrobe for a dress, eventually we found out that the Girl was born a Boy, the next day the top BBC local news story in Yorkshire was about a boy who was born a Girl or a Boy/Girl thing. And then the next day the top BBC local news story in Yorkshire was about a Gay vicar refused a gay marriage by the Archbishop of York.
Thankfully, we have Calendar, Yorkshire TV’s Local news program, to find out what is happening in Yorkshire, such as people losing their jobs in Scunthorpe due to the steel works transferring work abroad due to the loony fuel policy. And West Yorkshire Police Force and its failings in Rotherham, as well as local accidents and deaths. Yorkshire TV puts news stories manufactured over the course of a month at the end of the program, while the more important unpredictable news stories of the day come at the start.
It’s a pity really, we used to like watching Peter Levy and Paul Hudson making politically incorrect jokes, but now we have to change over to Five news, Sky news or RT UK.
Richard, you obviously live in the same area as me but no mention of the Keeley Donovan fan club! (Our pretty local weather girl for the days that Mr Hudson is on holiday, ie most of them). At least Mr Hudson has a suitable education to give weather forecasts, Keeley’s degree is in media studies (I kid you not).
Good grief, so we didn’t miss anything politically incorrect at all. With a first class degree in Planetary Physics (includes Planetary Atmospheric Physics) Paul Hudson seemed to have been marked down by Mensa as the only intelligent person employed by the BBC.
Indeed there are nofan, many more than these sickly foreigners, but they aren’t as important to Al Beebus.
“I saw on SKY news the other day a large African gentleman, he looked like Idi Amin, hanging off the back of a lorry with his legs akimbo, the doors of the truck swinging open, he fell off, police chased him. Why doesn’t SKY just speed the film up and stick on the Benny Hill theme because it’s beyond a joke. ”
Legs Akimbo will probably be the fake name he comes up with, when he turns up to sign on.
Sunday Times article yesterday, a third of top athletes confessed to being doped up to the eyeballs on rocket fuel. Could we expect an apology from the bbc for inflicting the fraudulent dog and pony show that was the London Olympics on us ? http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/athletics/33952542
Am I the first?
http://www.breitbart.com/london/2015/08/17/bbc-presenter-matthew-price-live-on-radio-4-ukip-is-far-right/
surely not
“Donal Blaney @Donal_Blaney
I’m no UKIP fan, but @BBCr4today calling them “far right wing” is outrageous. So arrogant they no longer hide their bien pensant lefty bias.”
“bien pensant lefty bias.”
Yep that’s about right
If UKIP is “far right”, then Labour and the BBC are “far left”.
Yes, of course.
UKIP will most certainly be to the far right of the BBC…but that says more about the corrupt BBC and where it sits on the political spectrum than it does UKIP.
I just had a quick look at Matthew Price on twatter…It made me feel ill.
Like the background photo. https://twitter.com/BBCMatthewPrice
“Like the background photo. https://twitter.com/BBCMatthewPrice”
A virtue signalling master class
I see that, at present, there is no ‘views my own’ disclaimer.
It will be interesting to see if, given his skill at placing both feet in mouth before shooting them, the BBC high command doesn’t get him to pop one in so they are covered… from a member of BBC staff… identified as such… from anyone tying what he says to those who hired him and pass on the public pay cheque.
He’s another activist, it seems. I read one of his Twitter comments – regarding a recent accident in Notting Hill and his criticism of a newspaper’s description of the driver as a Romanian.
Price said: Really?? Do we need to know he’s from Romania? Read the story and it’s not at all relevant. It’s just casual racism.
Obviously not content with the BBC’s own censorship of news that doesn’t suit them and their position, this c*** wants to see the same disgraceful standards of dishonesty applied to other media reporting. The BBC are out of control and in their criticism, it seems, will stop at nothing in their attempts to decide what British citizens should and should not see, hear and read. No wonder the bastards were happy to give ‘Hacked Off’ a platform in their attempts to seize control the British print media.
And for what it’s worth, the ‘Romanian man’ Price Twattered about (in handwringing tones), killed a 23 year old father of one and, with another, ran off after his Benley – said to be doing 70mph in a 30 zone – hit a broken down van. The victim, wearing a high viz jacket was directing traffic around his immobilised vehicle.
The Romanian has now been caught and has appeared in court charged with:
– causing death by dangerous driving
– failing to stop after an accident
– driving without a licence
– driving a vehicle while uninsured
While Price’s tweet offers some sort of comfort to the perpetrator for the ‘causal racism’ he endured…there’s not a word from Price about the man who was killed.
One would hope that Price, having breached one of the most fundamental editorial guidelines of balance, integrity and impartiality, in his description of UKIP, would be dismissed forthwith…but I somehow doubt it.
Funny isn’t it how the BBC has no such misgivings about “casual racism” when it involves a “white” police officer shooting an “unarmed, black teenager”.
Ah but then, one cannot be racist against da honky.
Utter wankers
Price is just a classic example of the British-hating, White-hating filth that infest the BBC.
I was rear-ended (no, it wasn’t Scott, before you ask), by an uninsured Romanian driver. I phoned the police, because his story kept shifting and his documents didn’t match his car or licence. The police were impounding his car, by the time I left the scene. Luckily, there wasn’t much damage. I informed my insurance company and although it wasn’t my fault, nor did I make a claim, my insurance went up that year – how truly ‘enriched’ I felt that day…
I expect the victim was ‘hideously’ white. ;-(
Seems he’s had to ‘apologise’, which really isn’t the best of starts to a glittering career as a sh*t-strirrer.
The ‘apology’ of course being one of those tee-hee efforts BBc staff trot out when they have had their wrists slapped for getting caught being utter partial twats.
Still, he has logged another nice one on the ‘bent as 9-bob notes’ column as the Charter review progresses, and even John W may not be able to ignore this one.
I notice that most news channels, not just the beeb to be fair, always have the words “including some children” when reporting on illegals bobbing about the Med in a dinghy…
They are desperate for heart string tugging footage of small children in peril.
No one likes seeing little kids in danger but the constant charity adverts featuring small children with no water, serious illness, victims of famine etc have engendered a serious case of compassion fatigue in me. Its reached the point where I no longer register any kind of feeling about this.
I blame the constant onslaught of tearful little mites shown on news channels and ad breaks, I’ll go as far as to say, I blame the media for making me callous.
Who should I sue ?
” small children in peril.” Where’s the parents or grandparents ?
Unfortunately, “small children placed in peril by their parents”, sometimes.
Five Live’s all over the “first gay professional rugby league player” – Batley Bulldog’s Keegan Hirst – well of course they are.
Thing is Keegan’s received nowt but support and good wishes.
Erm, what did he expect? Nobody gives a fuck (‘cept the Beeb of course). Get on with it lad and we’ll get on with our lives.
Cheers
And I assume that if Zak Hardaker calls him a “gay boy” now he’ll be congratulated rather than banned?
Hmmmmm, tricky one
His wife must be well chuffed an all. Beeb not really exploring this line?
As Deborah notes above, I also have no idea why everybody is congratulating themselves on the “unelectability” of Corbyn. We don’t know what’s going to happen in the next 4 years. Moreover, but for the “Falklands Effect” and given the (pre-Falklands) Conservative government’s unpopularity (according to the polls anyway) it was more than possible that Michael Foot would have won in 1983 (SDP defection and all). So don’t write off a “government of the nutters” led by Corbyn in 2020 with the BBC as its supporter and cheerleader. After all, I’ve yet to see a “special investigation” by Panorama on Venezuela, the template for Corbyn’s and the BBC’s heaven on earth.
I agree completely – with the SNP’s 56 MP’s – these idiots could get over the line…………………….
Which is why the tories need to get on with boundary reform and after the referendum, elect a patriotic, real conservative as leader, preferably a working class one.
Umbongo, I agree completely. We live in a country where 9.5 million people voted Labour in the last election – that after mass immigration, bankrupting the economy, thousands of new laws, raiding of pensions, selling off of gold and a leader who was clearly out of his depth and was quite possibly autistic. I think it’s fair to say that that is the lowest THAT vote will ever go – those people would vote for a cow pat with a Labour rosette on it.
Then you have the people who used to vote Labour but voted UKIP as they were disillusioned with identikit Westminster drones. How many of those people would vote Corbyn, if given a chance? Looney he may be, but he “seems principled” and isn’t “just another career politician.” And if they feel they wasted their vote (1 seat for 4,000,000 votes?) what’s the betting they’ll definitely not vote Labour again, if he was in charge?
Then you have those who didn’t vote Labour as they thought Marxist Ed was too centrist – the “Real Labour” voters, the Green voters, the SWP crowd, the Respect people etc. And yes, the SNP voters. Once the SNP mess up (which of course they inevitably will, what with being leftists and all), who will pick up the disappointed voters in the Socialist Republic of Scotland? Someone like Corbyn could be the man for them.
Throw in constant BBC bias, agitating from leftist fake charities, Quangos, Unions, Universities etc etc etc, and a Corbyn victory in a General Election really doesn’t seem that unlikely. True, he will then mess up completely and throw Labour into the wilderness for a generation, but only after taking what’s left of the country with him.
The bBC Radio 2 11am news again being disingenuous again over the 2014 most popular boys names, they proudly proclaim that Oliver, Jack and Harry top the bill…
A quick look on the bBC news website does reveal that Muhammad is tops in London, yet doesn’t dare to question how this can be and where its leading and its implications, or indeed that said name has a multitude of spellings. I’d also question that the spelling above used in the report is actually the most popular spelling of the name.
Hilarious that the Independent’s report on this baby name story shows a picture of Cassius Clay, sorry Muhammed Ali, on its website…
Talking of names, after 1066, Saxon names like Ethelred, Cuthbert, Alfred, Harald died out to be replaced by Norman names like William, Robert, Edward. Bringing it up to date, brain dead film ”stars” like Gwyneth Paltrow call their children Apple and Toothpick.
Lots of Alfreds about now. Just about the finest of old English names. Always good to hear a child called by this name.
I called one of my dogs Daisy, but looking forward to calling the next Corbyn. Here Corbyn, Down Corbyn, Quiet Corbyn, Sit Corbyn, Beggie Corbyn, Good Boy Corbyn, here is a bone for you.
In the 60s, I remember one person saying he called his dog Gormley, because he was always wanting something on the table. (probably only those of my vintage will understand the reference).
After Rhodesia became Zimbabwe and Zanu had finished slaughtering Zapu, I recall one of the white farmers called his dog Mugabe. Quite appropriate given what the dog’s namesake has done to that once prosperous and functioning country.
A few Ella, Edwin, Oswald, Eric, Edgar, Edmund, Cuthbert and Harold’s in Yorkshire. Alfred’s as well, but not that Yorkshire. Alfred didn’t rule over Yorkshire.
Edward actually is a Saxon name, as is Edmund. There were 3 King Edwards before the Norman Conquest. The name was considered very odd and old fashioned until King Henry the Third used it for his son, the King we know as ‘Edward the First’.
I have never, in all the years that I have followed these kinds of events, seen so much coverage and hand-wringing concern on the BBC over the election of an opposition party leader. It’s out of all proportion. It’s quite ridiculous. If ever anyone needed further proof that the Labour party was “their” party this is it.
On reflection, I imagine only a card-carrying trot would need further proof.
Up this morning on BBC South Today a program berating the government for not providing a bottomless pit of money for the New Forest National Park, this was once a happy self governing area. First interview was a black woman, shouting about all the lack of government spending, how very BBC , no counter argument of course…
This refers back a few days to the demise of Cilla Black
Too soon? As edgy comedians say.
This will be quite respectful
BBC national news aired a report from one of their BBC North West journos. Liverpool will miss, Liverpool mourns, Liverpool this, Merseyside that….
Did the BBC intend to make me feel as though I was somehow intruding on personal local grief?
She may not have ‘broken in the States’ but she was surely a national British personality?
Perhaps the BBC will let we Londoners have Chas ‘n’ Dave when they are brown bread?
Is Laura Kuenssberg still on holiday? If she’s not careful, the Beeb’s new Political Editor will have been totally AWOL during the small political matter of the UK Labour Leadership election.
Nick Robinson away at the same time, too? He hasn’t Blogged for over a month. Is he OK? Hope so.
Nick Robinson, poor fella diagnosed with cancer, but penned brilliant article the other day:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-3199644/100-days-changed-doyen-political-rune-readers-compelling-dissection-seismic-shift.html
Wish him well and hope he defeats the demon health problems.
There are aspects of this brilliance I may need to mull upon…
‘Michael Gove toured the studios insisting that his party had really won – the surest sign that he feared they hadn’t’
Interesting precedent. And one I look forward to seeing displayed by the BBC when members of parties they like start saying things the BBC want to hear.
Possibly more wishfulness of thought more driving ‘analysis’ at the BBC?
So the chairman of the BBC Trust, Rona Fairhead, wants the public to have a say about the BBC.
The only way this could happen in a fair way is if the BBC was to shut down for a couple of years in order to have a propaganda-free period and then we could decide its fate.
The good news is that, by her own analysis, ditching the licence fee in favour of commercial subscription could be a good option.
She says (in the Independent today):
“The truth is – and it’s sometimes a difficult one for governments to accept and for the BBC to live up to – there isn’t a lot in broadcasting that audiences don’t want from the BBC, and most of them are prepared to pay for it.”
It is surely time to put this to the test and bring in subscription.
She need only read the comments on this site, and that of the Daily Mail, and Daily Telegraph to ascertain very quickly how most of the public feel about the BBC.
Ms Fairhead was warning politicians not to interfere with the BBC! But the government is democratically elected, unlike the BBC, and it is part of the government remit to engage with the BBC over charter renewal.
If the BBC wishes to be free from politicians doing their job of scrutinising how public money is spent, it should stop taking money from the public by force of law and become a fully commercial operation. This one act would free it from political interference and, if what the BBC tells us is true, give ample income to invest how it likes. But of course the BBC wants its cake and to eat it, no doubt with a glass of champagne.
Spot on. If the BBC is so essential to people’s lives – which is in effect what the BBC are claiming – then those people will be happy to pay for it voluntarily.
It’s time for the BBC put it to the test. What have they got to lose?
“in order to have a propaganda free period?”
… you ve got the Tories in No10, you ll get nothing else
but lies, falsifying stats, and propaganda.
Possibly. But with the BBC off the forced public payroll, the people would not be under the illusion that what comes from it, from any quarter, is any more accurate, objective or of integrity than the rest of the partial media world. So they need true choice to sift across them all to arrive at a measure of truth to act on.
I can serve notice on ‘Tory lies, falsifying stats, and propaganda’ every few years at the ballot.
With the BBC, not so much (inc. ‘about right’ complaints dismissals and ‘purposes of’ FoI exemptions on how and why).
Ms. Fairhead may presume to know what I think and presume to talk for me, but I can assure her she and most of her colleagues at the BBC seldom if ever do.
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– An important update on removing TV Licensing’s implied rights of access: Read more here.
Not BBC but…
Just had to say how enchanting it was to see Midsomer Murders last night with Clarke Peters (Lester Freeman from the HBO Baltimore cop smash hit The Wire). Not entirely sure what accent that was, but since he was playing a colourful country folk music character his a vaguely trans-atlantic drawl was not completely incongruous and his character’s motivation of displeasure at the traditional annual folk festival potentially being moved away from the village of Midsomer-something-or-other up to London was pretty convincing. Gosh it was almost a meta plot (referring to itself or to the conventions of its genre; self-referential).Always nice to see diversity in action and so seamlessly done. Nothing jarring for the regular viewer at all.
‘Sarc’ as those young Conbyn-aged voters might text.
AsI, Also the black female folk singer, singing old English folk songs. It wasn’t the BBC but it could have been. And they are always married to Whitey. What a hoot !
Oh dear, things just got worse for the BBC.
http://www.gizmag.com/largest-feature-observable-universe-grb/38778/?
Seems the top floor pension fund has been located.
I completely agree with Deborah. Corbyn’s influence as Labour leader could be potentially disastrous for the country. The other even more worrying aspect is that Labour under Corbyn might not be as unelectable as his critics suggest. Should Cameron make a major cock-up, Labour with Corbyn as Prime minister could easily be in power, elected by voters too young to remember the chaos of the 70’s and the economic stagnation and tyranny that is par for the course with any far left system of goverment.
Sadly, I agree with you. People are angry and angry people lash-out, sometimes in unpredictable and reckless ways.
It is worth bearing in mind that some pundits are predicting a major international economic collapse within the next 12 months. Were that to happen, I wouldn’t bet on Corbyn losing a general election.
Only fools like Boris Johnson (in today’s Telegraph) fail to appreciate the risk.
But suppose Trump is in the White House when Corbyn is elected, and has to go and lick Trump’s boots to demonstrate that the special relationship exists between a Labour Government and Trump’s Administration.. Imagine the response from his supporters in the Loony Left Unity, SWP, the Toffophobic anarchists of Class War and the likes.
Cameron doesn t do anything else but cock up, the guy and his cronies are a liability, all his and Osbornes s chickens are well on the way home.
In the context of the BBC being so biased, it is a sad irony that, in the face of blatant vilification and marginalisation of the Tories, the reflex action is to criticise the one, and implicitly support the other.
The truth is, I think, that Mr Cameron and his government are every bit as disastrous as the BBC implies with every breath of its canted broadcasting, but not because they kick the poor into the gutter, laughing all the way to the bank with their croney-capitalist mates.
They are in reality, a far greater danger to the nation than even the BBC insinuates. They have no compelling vision of its future, other than as a decomposed bunch of EU folk-regions, with ‘governments’ on a par with my local county council. They are willing to throw over several hundred years of hard-won sovereignty, security and status in the world, simply because they are collectively unable to ‘shake a stick’ at the bullies in Europe, the bullies in their own back-yard, and the bullies of globalism for whom the United Kingdom is a residual inconvenience and a fruit ripe for the plucking.
If the people of Britain do ever come to direct action to defend these things, then a whole bunch of policies, attitudes and deeply held beliefs will suddenly surface, having been submerged under the faecal detritus of ‘post-modern’ society.
They will not be those of Mr Corbyn or his backers.
However, if Mr Corbyn follows the example of the Bolsheviks all those years ago, or the opportunists who instigated the Third Reich, then he and his friends will be content to ignite and observe the conflict, and await their time to assume power when everyone else is exhausted and wounded to the point of impotence.
If Mr Corbyn becomes Leader of the Opposition, he will become apparently conciliatory, while at his back a thousand prairie fires of ‘protest’ will rage. His hands will be clean, but he will be there to take over when the time is right.
One of Corbyn’s prairie fires of protest. I cannot see a Corbyn Government.
Not on the back of these. But as the result of an orchestrated abreaction to a nation of discontent like rolling thunder, where ‘cohesion’ finally becomes a dirty word and fear of street anarchy is whipped-up? I think this is a possibility – ironically, ‘in place of strife’ has sometimes become a clamor for a despot.
It’s all a front for the bloke in the West Ham shirt to demonstrate his levitation by wanking trick.
Both posts good, Mr Beaker. Thanks.
May I quote you:-
They (The Conservatives under Cameron) are in reality, a far greater danger to the nation than even the BBC insinuates. They have no compelling vision of its future, other than as a decomposed bunch of EU folk-regions, with ‘governments’ on a par with my local county council. They are willing to throw over several hundred years of hard-won sovereignty, security and status in the world, simply because they are collectively unable to ‘shake a stick’ at the bullies in Europe, the bullies in their own back-yard, and the bullies of globalism for whom the United Kingdom is a residual inconvenience and a fruit ripe for the plucking.
Honoured, I’m sure..
Cameron was only seven years old when the UK entered the EU.
He doesn’t have any faith in this great nation standing on its own two feet, as do many of the of the MPs in parliament. They cannot remember when we were a world power before being ’emasculated’ by the European Parliament.
You should have voted UKIP.
I did.
This is why the last hope for this country is a resounding “NO” vote in the upcoming EU referendum, swiftly followed by the exit of Cameron, to be replaced by a real, patriotic working class (not shirking class) conservative leader.
Disagree about Corbyn, I don’t know why people are so worried, bring it on I say.
The Labour party of 1979 – 83 was good good for the country, it took Labour 10 years to even begin to recover and gave us, economically a great decade and the best prime minister since Churchill and one that hasn’t been bettered since.
A weak Labour and even an economical collapse can also only be good for UKIP, who for a whole host of reasons need to be in a strong position.
Rest assured that should Corbyn win, he will never contest the 2020 election as leader, five years is a long while in these especially uneasy times.
I cannot wait to hear Corbyn’s acceptance speech.
” I owe everything to my wonderful education at The Adam’s Grammar School at Newport Shropshire”
The damage has already been done, the unions are in complete charge of Labour. In fact once it became clear that under Blair the unions were losing their power they started to fight back. They put Brown into No 10 , then Miliband as leader ,and now probably Corbyn . They made sure that their choices became Labour candidates for all ‘safe’ seats. Miliband did as he was commanded and reduced the influence of Labour MPs and now Labour can’t move without the union bosses say so and any Labour leader will have to do just what they are told.
At least with Corbyn in charge there will be very little to camouflage the neo Marxist policies that Labour will be forced to follow by their union bosses. There will no room for doubt, elect Labour and you will get full blooded socialism. With any of the others the public may have been confused by their apparently more sensible style and persona. So all in all I prefer Corbyn to be Labour leader because it is highly unlikely that the public will vote for his naked far left socialism.
The people of this country are in general savvy about this country’s political parties. That’s why Milliband was rejected. Not because they liked the Tories. Simply the Conservatives were the more credible option.
The MSM/BBC have no real clue or genuine interest in the peoples values and opinions. They dragged out Abbot, Owen Jones, Toynbee and all the other commentators who tried to sell us Labour because they resonated with THEIR values and opinions. Not ours. It didn’t work.
Remember how they thought Clegg got the better of Farage in the television debates? The public’s verdict was at odds with theirs totally. But Clegg was one of “theirs” so he won the debate or so they judged.
Same with the election. In media-land they thought Labour stood a good chance. Nope they, Labour, were trounced.
I have every faith in the British people.
Corbyn will win the Labour party but Corbyn will never win the British voter.
Labour have had it.
Enjoy the show.
That may be so, but the question must be asked, has any Conservative MP criticised Al Beeb for its left wing bias ? Where is our PM on this?
Then I suggest you google ‘tory MP criticises bbc bias’ there are plenty of cases but as I see below your Tory hatred is blinding so you probably won’t want to see !
This site is supposed to be about BBC bias but some of what being put up here is getting very off topic !
Personally believe the BBC had a major affect on the last election. They, with much of the MSM, bigged up the SNP and how they were going to form a coalition with Labour.
This scared the pants off many English voters. Many who intended to vote UKIP or even Labour didn’t so in effect we have a skewed result
Spot on TigerOC, Spot on !
Which is why the tory masterstroke of trade union law reform is so brilliant. At a stroke they will cut donations via the political levy from about 4.5 million donations to about 300,000, which will go a long way towards bankrupting labour. Without the corporatist donations and with a vastly reduced funding from the unions, this leaves UKIP ideally placed to become the official opposition in 2020.
There are several reasons for my optimism…
1) Unlike the way UKIP’s support is now portrayed by the mainstream media, their level of support is solidly staying at the same level as at the General election. This means there are still, today, about 4 million supporters.
2) Without the reality of a labour/SNP coalition running the UK, there is no reason for the UKIP supporters who voted tory in 2015 from doing so in 2020.
3) Add to this, the boundary reform which will reduce labour’s stranglehold in the North of England with UKIP in a very strong second place in constituencies where the voters would never, ever vote tory, then UKIP will be less hindered by the FPTP limitations.
4) Additionally, if (as expected), Cameron does manage to con this nation into voting to stay in an EU which will remain on course for full EU integration (which will be undeniable by 2020) UKIP’s support can only grow and grow.
So, as labour, breft of funds, and driven by Islamophile zeal, sinks into oblivion… UKIP are ideally placed to become the official opposition in 2020.
It’s all too easy to become pessimistic, even paranoid, about the ‘migrant’ situation, but don’t you find it odd, considering the number and extent of uprisings, wars, insurrections, militancy, terrorism and so on in the Middle East over the past few decades, that the swarming numbers attempting ever more desperate entry to Europe seem to have increased in geometric proportion with the rise of IS?
Surely it could not be an orchestrated attempt to destabilise society? Who should I contact in order to apologise for even thinking this?
Anyway, it’s not all doom and gloom. I caught the end of a trailer the other evening, sandwiched between a plethora of programme details crafted to delight, that promised us Lenny Henry’s life story. And they say BBC entertainment doesn’t keep in touch with its public….
Of course it is Isis . I am sure the idiots in charge also know this but to deal with it is another matter and they have no stomach for a confrontation. Can you imagine the EU ever agreeing to really smashing the smuggling gangs and turning back the invaders?
That would involve sending soldiers to Libya and some possibly bloody battles.
That is what we pay our soldiers for and I have no doubt they would be succesful. Can you just hear the whines from the BBC/Guardian axis?
But no embedded BBC ‘Kate Adies’ with the troops please. Give them a free hand this time.
“The function of the country’s army is to frighten off potential invaders with the highest possible price of admission. Every country must at some time or another be able to defend its terrain and air space. the one who can secure order -or destroy it- will be sovereign. Without a strong military: there is no sovereign state.”
“Lenny Henry’s life story”
To include his stint on the Black and White Minstrel Show?
AliBaba telly reporting a bomb kills 19 people in Bangkok.
They then ask the cquestion ‘who could have done such an attack’ ?
Yes Alibaba telly, who indeed????
Meanwhile, the BBC reports.
In Thailand 18 killed at the (Hindu) Erawan Shrine.
A shrine also visited by Buddhists.
And Chinese tourists.
Many injured.
By an explosion.
Has a gas main exploded?
A fuel tanker been involved in a crash?
Has Ray Mears rubbed two sticks together over exuberantly?
Sorry it’s 3kg of TNT in a pipe.
That’s it then, an accident, everybody leaves their spare TNT in a pipe.
Our correspondent, Jonathan Head, says “bomb attacks in Bangkok are extremely rare.”
There you are then, just an unfortunate accident.
There has been “a Muslim insurgency, but this has been largely
confined to the south of the country and attacks rarely take place elsewhere.”
So it cannot be Muslims.
“But Bangkok has seen a decade of sometimes violent rivalry between political factions.” There we are then, just some local, Labour like, gangsters.
So, when all the analysis is in and a final judgement can be made it was the ‘ing Muslims again.
Instead of donating to the BBC, please consider donating to sites like The Religion of Peace, Jihad Watch or any of the other sites doing what the BBC should be doing.
Monitoring our enemies and exposing their crimes, instead of apologising for them, promoting them and lying on their behalf. Crimes in which the BBC is complicit, if not an actual accessory.
Are you British? If so the BBC is your enemy and the BBC is promoting other enemies of our people.
The Islamists based in the South of Thailand have killed over 5000 people since 2000. So they obviously cannot be responsible for the Bangkok bomb at a tourist site.
It’s always reassuring to know the the British broadcasting company is spending our licence fees with utmost neutrality..
http://www.breitbart.com/london/2015/08/17/gotcha-bbc-runs-puff-piece-for-radical-pro-migrant-group-doesnt-declare-affiliations/
Most telling quote from article
“Rather snootily they declare “We will definitely not talk to the Mail, Telegraph, Express or Murdoch owned press”, and report speaking to any media whatsoever is “unlikely””
So they (open boarders art school anarchists ) have no problem with identifying BBC bias and which way it leans
I’d never heard the expression GROLIE before, most amusing.
Tonight’s ‘PM’ had a little item on some populist Indian politician who is calling for ‘reparations’ from Britain for the dastardly things we did to them during the time of the Raj. You know, things like thousands of miles of railways and roads, the world’s biggest canal system, a system of government, a legal system, banning primitive and inhumane religious practices, the English language and education (where would India be today without it?), introduction to modern trade etc. etc.
Too many positives there for this politician, who curtailed it to roads and railways which (paraphrased) ‘Every country in the world has managed to build on its own since then’ – oh, right, like how many thousands of miles of railway built by India since the Raj? And, erm, African railways ditto since colonial days?
Our jolly BBC reporter went all vox pops, deciding to employ a very light-hearted tone of reporting – almost jokey (what Britain did for India? Are you joking me man?) – and much seeking of opinion from the ‘young’ who think of Britain only in terms of Dr Who and Benedict Cumberbatch apparently, though one or two did mention the benefits of being taught English.
So…..aforementioned legal system, government, trade etc etc? Not even a hint of it on the Beeboids radar. Compare and contrast with their studious, reverent tones when lecturing viewers on ‘What the Romans Did for Us’ or ‘The Golden Age of Islam’.
Was it an agenda in play or just sheer ignorance on the part of the reporter? Only YOU can decide, dear reader….
Johnny just wait til Sunday, Sunday Morning Lies has a special on it
… let the self flagellating begin whitey!
What have the Romans ever done for us…..?
AliBaba Broadcasting needs a real and true history lesson about India.
An India that is part of the British Commonwealth by choice.
The pantomime that is masquerading as the Labour leadership debate is proving to be thoroughly enjoyable. Front runner, the ultra left candidate, Jeremy Corbyn has attracted the likes of the UAF, Socialist Shirkers, George Galloway and numerous other scruffy soap dodgers to rally to the cause. The party are in meltdown. It’s been revealed that Corbyn not only supports anti Semitic thugs and terrorist groups, but has had close contact with Holocaust deniers. It’s delicious! Corbyn’s charming supporters are bullying and abusing his rivals…tho’ with the likes of the UAF at his side is anyone surprised?
The Prince of Darkness, Peter Mandelson, has been resurrected and has suggested the vote be stopped, such is the internal panic at the prospect of a Jezza victory.
This catastrophe has been a fabulous Labour own goal. It was the leadership that suggested that £3.00 to join and vote would attract people. Yes, it has, unfortunately the wrong sort. And it was senior party members that put Corbyn’s name forward.
If Labour collapse, as I think (hope) they will after a JC victory, I can see UKIP filling the vacuum that has been created.
This leadership contest has proved that Labour couldn’t organise the proverbial piss up in a brewery.
No one could ever say that about Nigel…
The only thing is UKIP are just as likely to go to implosion, which a shame, but hey, as always the Toryboys laughanomics non strategy should come to the rescue, and Corbyn … hmm be careful what you wish for.
The ‘Toryboys’ were stealing all UKIP’s ideas before and during the general election. Ie getting the vote to get out the EU and controlling immigration.
The problem was the ‘chicken’ Tory voters’, who were afraid of loosing the election to Labour, stuck with the limp wet rag Cameron.
Corbyn has brought the nutters back into Labour, and if he is defeated in the leadership election just watch the nutters attack the winner. Already, they are becoming hysterical in their hostility towards the ‘red tories’. Whoever wins, Labour – thank goodness – is finished.
Jezza Corbyn’s followers/swarms/hordes (a la Genghis Khan’s Mongols) are collectively known as Corbynutters, surely.
I agree G.W.F.
Every year that goes by UKIP will get more credibility. Farage has in general kept the bongo, bongo fraternity in check now and as time goes by the other parties, who do not have the same tight discipline, will be seen to have more nutters than UKIP. The Labour and Conservative parties will then slip even further backwards.
The Labour party’s civil war over Corbyn, with the BBC throwing even more fuel on the fire, alongside the Scottish Labour Party all turning into raving nationalists will ensure the Labour party is finished. I just do not see how they can come back, the British public has wised up. Even youngsters now realise that there are no successful socialist countries and that socialism only works until they run out of other peoples cash. Whether Corbyn gets the leadership or not the damage is done.
The fact is that the old guard unions, the communists and bird destroying windmill worshipers are now in the minority. There will always be a few left but as this government clamps down on their benefits and they have to find a job, or starve, even they will wake up to reality. And when they have to learn Polish or become a Muslim just to get a menial factory job they will turn on Labour like rabid dogs.
There are therefore now only two choices, Conservative or UKIP, and that is as it should be.
I just want to thank the management here for their recent efforts in improving the authentication procedure and clearing out the trolls.
What I notice now is the, more or less complete, absence of pointless sparring matches which while occasionally entertaining, really only served to divert people from productive commenting.
We are all much better off without the mischievous and cynical flak – I still see genuine differences of opinion, so I don’t think breadth of view has been lost. The air just feels a little bit clearer..
Thanks.
Good post SB, I agree 100% – it’s cleared all the cr@p away.
The decline, politicisation and date-stamping of I’m Sorry I Haven’t A Clue continues as non-comedienne Susan Calman refers to shortage of apprenticeships, lesbians and (yawn) the Labour leadership contest.
Should make good listening in years to come on Radio 4 Extra and the series CDs.
Samantha should take her to one side and give her the sharp edge of her tongue.
I’m surprised the BBC’s Songs of Praise hasn’t been celebrating London’s new most popular name for boys –
http://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/revealed-the-most-popular-name-for-baby-boys-in-london-according-to-official-data-a2871406.html
… “Borg” like herd mentality on display again
Impressive to swing in again with the No.10 slot too.
Not perhaps a story to place against any pondering what it is imposing pressures on schools and the NHS.
http://tradingaswdr.blogspot.co.uk/2015/08/fillers.html
“I’m sure it’ll get some BBC coverage today”
Well, we’ll just have to wait and see.
Amazing what ‘not news’ ((c) A. Newsroom Tealady) can find themselves knocked off the running order by that renowned editorial integrity.
BBC usual style of reporting bomb attack. No one has owned up. Then to cover their backsides mention that it might have been Islamic but that’s only speculation. (Could be the far right eh).
‘One possibility is that they might be the work of Malay-Muslim insurgents in the south who have been fighting Thai rule for more than a decade. However, they have never targeted Bangkok before and casualties from their attacks have been falling.’
Probably not them.
‘There also seem to be few, if any, links between Thai militants and groups like the so-called Islamic State.’
Nor them.
But what about these?
‘The shrine is popular with Chinese tourists and this raises at least the possibility of a connection to the Uighurs – a Turkic-speaking Muslim minority in the far west of China. They complain of cultural and religious persecution at the hands of the Beijing authorities.’
Of course. Victims pushed to the brink by persecution.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-33963280
I missed the last sentence of the Report on Bankok, which suggests an alternative:
‘Analysts say one flashpoint could be within the military government itself. The annual promotion list is due out next month and it is thought to be a source of tension among the various cliques.’
There you have it. Nothing to do with Islam is the initial reaction, long before any official report.
On ‘PM’ they found two narrative backers.
The first was a ‘Professor of Peace Studies’ (no, me neither) from Bradford University (ditto) who was eager to pursue the ‘Could be Islamists but as Muslims are already a persecuted minority in Thailand any backlash will only make things worse’ line.
The second was a ‘freelance’ journalist who thought even suggesting it might be Islamists was ‘knee jerk and inflammatory’.
And that was about it for the independent analysis, courtesy of The Common Purpose Speed Dial App.
I remember visiting Bradford Uni on the coat-tails of my wife, who was a youth worker at the time.
We went for a talk by Professor Tom Stonier, a bit of a visionary pitch about information as a future currency and mediator of power – this was in the early 80’s IIRC, so it was all very prescient, though not in the idealistic way he presented it (see Robin Eubanks’ excellent, though sometimes opaque to UK eyes, blog).
I can’t remember much, except at that time the city centre seemed to be in a chaotic, half-derelict, state.
What I do remember was the student canteen served up the biggest portions I had ever seen – I’d never before experienced the causes of obesity directly!
It was the first university I ever saw that seemed to cater for a student population that did not want to flee its family home for a life of liberty and licence.
At the time I was puzzled that young people would not want at least a taste of freedom, but looking back now, I guess it may well have reflected the strength of family ties within the particular cultural background of that place.
As with all things BBC, speculation is bad, unless it is about things they think serves, when it becomes good.
This lack of consistency is a problem.
Especially when, having laid out all the options that ‘could’ be, once facts become known they lose interest very quickly if reality becomes counter-narrative.
‘The list of those potentially responsible is considerable’
Is it fuck. It’s the muslims.
Could this signal the end of Halal meat? ………….
https://www.change.org/p/rt-hon-elizabeth-truss-mp-secretary-of-state-department-for-environment-food-and-rural-affairs-george-eustice-mp-rebecca-evans-am-richard-lochhead-msp-michelle-o-neill-improve-the-lives-of-farm-animals-with-compulsory-welfare-labelling?recruiter=350736312&utm_source=share_petition&utm_medium=copylink
signed.
signed
Signed.
Signed
Ditto
“Never mind the feather boa, what’s the weather going to be like?”
Billy Turnbull was jesting but perhaps spoke for many a quiet (non-Tweeting) licence payer this morning as BBC Breakfast celebrated Carol Kirkwood coming out as a Strictly Come Dancing contestant.
Thrilled with their news the sofa dwellers were pleased to tell us that she would continue to present the weather whilst she was appearing in this gameshow.
It amuses me when friends of the BBC moan about commercial advertising interupting their viewing with other broadcasters. In fact the BBC uses every conceivable opportunity to advertise their own wares across their own many outlets with little regard for the wishes of viewers.
BBC radio 4 Today program has been off on one of its ‘fact finding’ missions to the Muslim world, and what a fantastic amazing place Iran is, and how the vicious American sanctions have been affecting the poor Muslims.
So they send a woman! she is allowed access to some Iranian woman in the government, and asks the usual naïve BBC question “now that sanctions have freed up money for you, what does the government intend to spend it on”?
There’s no hesitation, the response is immediate – “defence. There a lot of American bases in the region”.
Cue gobsmacked beeboid – this couldn’t be happening, everyone knows Islam is peaceful, and that Iran is being oppressed! Eventually she manages to blurt out -“but they just signed a treaty with you does that not reassure you?”
“there are a lot of American bases in the area”.
She left without probing further.
The BBC interviewer was Kim Ghattas ? A very conflicted journalist ?
She evidently describes herself as a Lebanese radical feminist.
That shone through in her interview. Well, the Lebanese radical bit did. Not sure about the feminist bit.
The much-missed David Preiser wrote a piece here about Ghatts a couple of years ago :
John, I wondered why David Preiser is no longer posting here. You are right. He is much missed.
I think he felt there was too much anti-Muslim rhetoric here. It was maybe a difference in perspective from across the pond, where perhaps they don’t have a state broadcaster continually whitewashing the misdeeds of Muslims, to the extent of suppression of facts. Certainly some commenters went over the score, but that’s inevitable in a lightly-moderated forum. And I don’t think he and Alan saw eye to eye either.
Whatever the reasons, he is definitely a loss.
I think it was she who, on miraculously bumping into a woman from Tehran who now lives in the USA but was back for a holiday, asked: “Can the two countries you live in be friends again?”.
She acts like she’s dealing with children, and that’s possibly the only level she can look at things from.
As long as it’s the Ayotollah who calls the shots – literally – they can forget any kind of softening of Iran’s anti-Israel, region-dominating agenda.
“Don’t take it personally, it was a long time ago”
The eminently sensible Philippa Gregory cautions BBC sofa-activist Louise Minchin this morning.
“You saw my face”
Replies Minchin as the camera misses her scowl but Gregory reacts.
This was during a plug item for Gregory’s new Tudor book during which the author was explaining the interesting character of Henry VIII’s last wife. A literate and intelligent women, Gregory explains, who having displeased the King once defended herself with the excuse “You’re the King, I’m just a silly woman”.
Louise Minchin’s knee-jerk leftist virtue signalling BBC hackles went up on hearing this, naturally. Offense alert, quick get onto Twitter!
Perhaps Minchin should demand a retrospective apology from the Royals?
Silly woman.
In contrast Ms Gregory seems to be a sensible woman.
The Labour Leadership Election – the longest suicide VOTE in history
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/11808433/Why-are-Labour-Party-members-putting-up-with-the-Corbyn-cultists-claptrap.html
‘…a bunch of three-quid-dog-on-a-rope-rent-a-Trots…. people who view a bar of soap as a tool of capitalist oppression’
Dan Hodges (son of Glenda Jackson) begins to see the light.
His assessment of the Corbyn camp is alas short sighted and actually applies to all those on the left. How long have people been complaining of being shouted down and called names by people who believe they are the only ones with the answer?
The oppression which started with the BLiar government is alive and well in the Labour party today, but like the biblical Hypocrite, Hodges is able to see the speck in his brothers eye, but fails to spot the log in his own.
“What started as a fresh, spontaneous – if misguided – popular movement has been mutating. Its initial mood of optimism was quickly replaced by a sense of entitlement. Jeremy Corbyn had a right to be in the contest, whatever the rules said. In the blink of an eye, entitlement had morphed into arrogance. Jeremy Corbyn was right, everyone else was wrong. Anyone claiming otherwise simply couldn’t understand or wouldn’t understand or didn’t deserve to understand. Then, as victory beckoned, arrogance was replaced with outright hostility. To dare to question in any way the divinity of the bearded godhead was to invite a torrent of abuse. Labour MPs, Labour activists, journalists, neutral political observers – anyone not prepared to take the Corbynite blood oath was a war-criminal, a class-traitor, a useful idiot, a neo-con, a capitalist stooge, a Tory. Worst of all, a Blairite.”
And that is exactly what every single Labourite has done regardless of their position to the left of centre, not just the far left.
‘What started as a fresh, spontaneous – if misguided – popular movement….
No, it’s a re-hash of Labour policies, circa 1948, with a pro-terrorist agenda thrown in for free.
BBC News Website
“”The Syrian refugee who’s telling his compatriots: ‘Don’t come to Sweden!'””
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-33962670
He was advising his compatriots ‘tongue in cheek’ not to come to Sweden as you only get a flat rather than a big house.
The content shows that he and his friends are economic migrants. He tried 21 times to enter Sweden and rejected Greece as it has no welfare.
The BBC found three out of three members of the Swedish public who were very pro immigration and were willing to pay extra taxes
This immigrant said he would be the first to return to Syria if normality resumed. Of course, he would say that.
The BBC showing immigration as being:
1/ Welcomed 100% by the local population i.e. 3 out of 3 interviewed. Is this representative?
2/ Ok to choose your Asylum country depending on it’s benefits system.
Does it mirror the BBC stance on Calais stance, anyone?
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Also on Facebook, which has comments enabled.
Suffice to say that when the BBC editorial filter on guests and what they say cannot be imposed, things are not really going well for the narrative.
This Syrian invader went to Turkey, Egypt, Greece then finally Sweden, he’s practically Alan Whicker, where do they get the money from ?
Newsnight last night, BBC2: Headline story? The Labour Leadership contest. Of course.
Meanwhile, at least 20 people killed, some of them tourists, and over a hundred seriously injured in a terrorist blast in Bangkok, Thailand.
Evan finally got around to giving the Bangkok bombing story some time, but then had to cut short the piece because it was time to talk about the closure of the UK’s coal mining pits again.
You really, honestly cannot make this sh*t up. Still, the BBC have the brazen cheek to consider themselves ‘journalists’. Absolutely beggars belief.
Yes but the main thing is,
From BBC News
The capital is no stranger to unrest and has seen it before,
there s been tussling between political factions.
The Ratchaprasong intersection right by the shrine where the blast occurred has been the location of political protests in recent years
…. it is still not known who was behind the attack.
… No-one has said they carried out this attack,
The BBC’s Jonathan Head in the city says there is no shortage of potential suspects.
BBC – Army chief has said the attack does not match the tactics used by insurgents.
Our correspondent says , some will blame the recent political violence in Thailand
BBC – Thai government saying it does not know who is to blame,
and no group claiming responsibility,
The BBCs Bridget Kendall looks at who could be behind the attack.
etc etc.
The potential conflict between those who would wish to see a thriving British coal mining industry and environmentalist, anti-‘carbon’ zealots who would see all coal-fired power stations closed tomorrow is very, very obvious.
So obvious, in fact, you’d think the BBC would have had the opposing factions in the studio by now for a good old-fashioned healthy debate.
Maybe it’s because the BBC tacitly supports both (unions v Fatcher in the case of coal) like it does women’s rights and Islam, and fears disapperaing up its own jacksee if it tried to square the conflicting agendas .
Ah, the BBC and its green dilemmas.
http://order-order.com/2015/08/18/bbc-world-news-broke-broadcast-rules-by-running-green-propaganda
Ah, well, they are made to be broken. Well, only if you are in the BBC. Do it elsewhere and a squad of BBC reporters will appear in the highest of dudgeon to ask questions, suggest positions be considered, etc. And that settles that.
‘The BBC are covering the release of the Ofcom report by highlighting that it criticised ITV’s Britain’s Got Talent for misleading viewers about a stunt dog… ‘
Hey, the BBC takes ‘entertainment’ very seriously. Information and education…. less so.
Vital. And unique. And ‘only’ £145.50pa. Compelled.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-33962670
An amazing piece of BBC idiocy from their dream country of Syria.
Note how they have both cut the piece by the Syrian refugee, and in places inserted their own propaganda.
We all know that Sweden is a country of insane people hell bent on destroying their own country, so I don’t expect they had to try to hard to find ‘right on’ views.
“yes I’d be happy to pay more tax if we can help people”
“We can take as many people as want to come” !
An amazing (for all the wrong reasons) piece.
No mention of the rape epidemic in Sweden, from the lowest in the World to one of the highest. Who could possibly be doing it ? I’m bewildered….
“yes I’d be happy to pay more tax if we can help people”
“We can take as many people as want to come” !
The eloi Swede also said ” I don’t care.” Obviously you don’t mate.
Gay marriage-iste and jewel in the crown of modern Pride-ism, Steven Fry is a master of the insinuated and the insidious.
It was a real pleasure to hear him lend his talents this morning to a thinly-veiled rebuttal of the excellent recent programme What’s the Point of.. The Met Office?, which caused such a flutter among the hens of the climate change coop.
In a piece which was ostensibly about language, he attempted to return some credibility to the controversial, divisive Met Office and other assorted Green co-religionists. In a little masterpiece of obfuscation and misdirection he managed to include a spurious definition of climate vs weather (‘climate is what happens over 30 years’), an ignorant and misleading explication of chaotic systems, and even, miraculously, a reference to some nutter temporarily sheltering under the UKIP umbrella in order to make mediaeval pronouncements on God’s judgment on us for sinning..
All in all, a good example of the BBC’s constant struggle to achieve balance between opposing points of view – glad to see they gave irrationality a chance, after all.
I cannot believe Mr Fry is as odious as his utterances suggest – I am sure he is in reality a perfectly pleasant person who enjoys a home life in many ways like our own..
Self satisfied pompous Stephen Fry fancies himself a modern day Oscar Wilde, I however believe he is more akin to irascible gay Gilbert Harding.
Hadn’t realised Mr Harding was gay. I read his autobiography some years ago when I came across it on a work trip to Toronto. Fascinating story, the son of a work-house supervisor, but no hint of homosexuality IIRC.
Stephen Fry is never off the BBC, he is a bore and I resent the fact that he earns a nice living off the licence fee payer.
He gets away with saying “God is stupid”. Fair enough but would that not be considered Christian-phobic (is there such a word ? spell check thinks so)
Along with many other “luminaries” he wrote a letter protesting at the visit of the Pope a few years back. He is of course entitled to his opinion, and he is concerned with the Catholic Church’s stance on gay rights, abortion, and contraception fair enough.
I am not aware of Fry’s views on Islam’s stance on Gay rights however, though I’m sure he must hold strong views on this, it’s just that both Fry and the BBC are not quite so vociferous when it comes to confronting the religion of peace.
I was going to say that Fry is an asshole but I thought better not.
Speaking of never off the BBC…
http://order-order.com/2015/08/18/alibhai-brown-tries-to-sniff-out-british-jews/
Not sure, but which studio is that in the background?
In any case, she has assured herself many the invite more now.
These links are very informative, I never realised Lauren Booth had converted to Islam.
Mind you I wish she’d do the decent thing and wear the full Burqa, and maybe persuade Sister Cherie to do the same, in the interests of aesthetics.
‘..maybe persuade Sister Cherie to do the same’
Well, Cherie already has a letterbox shaped mouth.
So Yasmin Alibhai-Brown has outed herself as Jew-Finder-General of the left.
Her public demise must be close – I somehow assumed she and Camila Batmanjelly were one and the same – hence the distracting outfits.
Listen in to erm “sister” Lauren, get put on the spot
on the BBC to boot … deep joy
… check out women s rights erm … inspired by Mohamhead
”I cannot believe Mr Fry is as odious ” He is.
Stephen Fry was on Room 101 with Paul Merton, he was waxing lyrical about a very young male actor, it was borderline on the age of consent, who appeared on Eastenders.
Room 101 would be the best place for Fry, provided he was alone.
Stephen Fry met Jimmy Savile on a train once, this is what he said on is Twitter page. ”Oh, Sir Jimmy Savile is no more. Spent a train journey from Leeds to London with him once. He was not as other men. Fascinating & rare: RIP.” https://twitter.com/stephenfry/status/130396311320137728
Stephen Fry made a joke about paedophilia on his programme QI. Hmm, I think the phrase is hidden in plain sight, join up the dots…. http://www.theguardian.com/media/2013/aug/29/stephen-fry-paedophilia-limerick-apology-bbc
‘”would not have exceeded generally accepted standards” given the audience’s expectations “
There is some truth to that.
But nice to see Fraser and team getting to the bottom of what really matters again, vs. silly stuff like blowing the Charter requirements out the water daily, if often as ‘own views’.
Meanwhile, back at the Labour leaderwreck hustings, a sPad passes a briefing note to a BBC reporter…
“Plane crashes? Capital city terrorism? That’s not news!!!!! What has a source close to Jeremy revealed this hour! Wait Caitlyn thinks someone dissed her on twitter… Hold the front screen! “
The mysterious case of Stephen Fry. ” Is there more to Stephen Fry than meets the eye ? What do we really know about BBC luvvie, Stephen Fry?
At first glance he appears to be no more than a pompous, arrogant, smug, twit, who loves to lecture all and sundry about grammar and gayness.
Look a little deeper though and an altogether more disturbing picture emerges of someone up to his neck in filth of the highest order.” Read on. https://thecolemanexperience.wordpress.com/2014/05/01/is-there-more-to-stephen-fry-than-meets-the-eye/
” The BBC Trust has rejected a complaint that Stephen Fry “trivialised” child abuse during an episode of QI in which he recited a limerick about a chaplain’s desire for a choir boy.
A report by the BBC Trust’s Editorial Standards Committee (ESC) said the broadcast was “at the margins of acceptability” but had not breached editorial guidelines.
During the episode, Fry recited the lines: “There was a young chaplain from King’s / Who talked about God and such things / But his real desire / Was a boy in the choir / With a bottom like jelly on springs.”
Unlike mother-in-law jokes or jokes about ‘the wife’, which are unequivocally haram, courtesy of the Alternative Sharia, laid down by their very own in-house comedic Jihadists.
How on earth can that be called “on the margins of acceptability” ?
The BBC Trust – you know you can’t trust them
Given the BBC’s record with cherry picking and editorial by omission, this tweet by their very well-staffed (is it 140 or 200?) PR dept. is…. brave…
Here’s another. Guessing the commenters thus far have not been blocked or banned, which can help with the overall ‘balance’ of favourable feedback for Rona to mention… everywhere.
One does wonder what guides the BBC’s choices pausing to publish claims and images even as the fog of confusion still swirls. Or not.
Some commenters seem confused…
Marwan D. @randomindead 2h2 hours ago
@BBCBreaking white guy? This cant be true
This featured person’s life will be ‘interesting’ no matter what, even if innocent.
Maybe they are simply a visiting waste disposal logistics executive from Scotland?
Stephen Fry’s lurid speech http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-2618339/EPHRAIM-HARDCASTLE-Stephen-Frys-lurid-speech-liberal-minded-guests-dinner-event.html
Can’t say I’m surprised judging by what he gets away with on QA e.g. describing somebody’s anus as his ‘man hole’.
A hetersosexual equivalent of Fry would very quickly draw predictable shrill screaming outrage from The Sisterhood and demonisation generally from the Left – Clarkson-style – including BBC ‘comedians’ and Wimmins Hour.
‘Texts’ from viewers were invited by the BBC this morning on the subject of NHS presciption gluton-free grub for those afflicted with certain conditions.
I note here – since the BBC report didn’t mention – that prescriptions aren’t ‘free’ unless you’re on benefits anyway.
It was ‘news’ to me that this was going on. I’m not sure whether I think it right that this happens or not. It ought to be a careful dispassionate cost/health equation.
One thing is for sure – once something is given it is surely going to be hard to take it away again if the BBC has any say in the matter. The BBC report soon contrasted neighbouring health regions with different rules. Already we hear ‘it’s not fair’ from those missing out.
Four ‘texts’ were read out on air. Three to one in favour of the freebies and – if I recall correctly – the three may each have been from interested parties.
BBC responding to their viewers in the way that comes naturally.
All hail the wisdom of the BBC !
Apparently there is a shortage of homes because of divorce and longevity.
We are told that another 100 000 houses need to be built, but that the building companies have gone out of business and the skills aren’t available.
In other words mass migration has had no effect on housing demand, and it’s all whitey fault again! The only way we can get the homes needed is by – yes you guessed it, importing more migrants with building skills !
Yes import more migrants with skills. Lucky Greeks, migrants will erect beautiful building to match any of the classical structures. A new dawn of prosperity awaits them. Greece has the pick of the litter. We are in danger of missing out .