291 Responses to MIDWEEK OPEN THREAD

  1. nofanofpoliticians says:

    Belgium, Brussels and specifically the Molenbeek and Anderlecht communities.

    This is the way it is….


    I travel to Brussels reasonably often on business… my hosts have in the past taken me past these areas and this article is pretty accurate.


    • Sir_Arthur_Strebe-Grebling says:

      Nicky Campbell was broadcasting from Molenbeek on Radio 5 Dead yesterday morning. I think he said he felt at home there.


      • Grant says:

        LOL ! Then he should stay there ! Or better still, all Beeboids shoul relocate to Raqqaq !


    • nogginator says:

      BBC correspondent was in Saint Denis as shots fired during raid ………… and?
      BBC Paris attacks: Two die in hunt for ‘mastermind’ Abaaoud
      “Mastermind”? eh! … the BBC is just garbage isn t it?.

      Belgium admits it has no control over Islamic areas?
      One of the Paris terrorists worked in immigration (vetting refugees?)
      You couldn t make it up
      Woodentop – J Kerry visits Paree and thinks that “Charlie Hebdo” was understandable


    • chrisH says:

      A wonderful must-read post nofanofP!
      Ta for posting-the hounding out of even “academic, factually based” research by the soft sciences like sociologists, shows that the Gramscian Marxist bubblecar was easily souped up and pimped into a Muslim SUV.
      And there`ll yet be decent people dragged behind to an appalling death onstream within the next few years-well before 2030 anyway.The brilliance of the article is that it gives you the step by step methods that the Sharia mongers are using right now…using the craven PC broken-backed academics, Lefties and Jew-baiting types that fill the Lefts ranks…and are kapok for the Muslim windsock we`re seeing rise up.
      Great post-a must-read….reminds me of Christopher Caldwells study a few years back…as prophetic as Zarqawi was when he gave us all the timetable for Islam dominance using immigration, technology blagged and lawfare, charities and media…hell, he even gave us the dates for IS creation…and so he`s more honest and credible in death than the BBC are.
      If we binned the Beeb…how many scuds could we buy for Raqqa and Mosul next week?


    • johnnythefish says:

      That report is absolutely effing terrifying.

      Ahrouch said: “The agenda is still the same, but our approach is different now. I think we have to sensitize people, make them understand the advantages to having Islamic people and Islamic laws. And then it will be completely natural to have Islamic laws and we will become an Islamic state.”

      The reporter interjected: “An Islamic State in Belgium?” Ahrouch replied: “In Belgium, of course! I am for the Sharia. Islamic law, I am for it. It is a long-term struggle that will take decades or a century, but the movement has been launched.”

      The implications for the rest of Belgium are absolutely effing terrifying

      The implications for the rest of Europe are absolutely effing terrifying.

      The fact that the BBC is choosing to cover this up is absolutely effing terrifying.


    • Pollystuscanyvilla says:

      Thank you Nofanofpoliticains.

      I lifted and repeated this part from the above article because it is so important:

      “Speaking to a reporter from Radio Télévision Belge Francophone (RTBF), the public broadcasting service of the French-speaking part of Belgium, Ahrouch said: “The agenda is still the same, but our approach is different now. I think we have to sensitize people, make them understand the advantages to having Islamic people and Islamic laws. And then it will be completely natural to have Islamic laws and we will become an Islamic state.”

      The reporter interjected: “An Islamic State in Belgium?” Ahrouch replied: “In Belgium, of course! I am for the Sharia. Islamic law, I am for it. It is a long-term struggle that will take decades or a century, but the movement has been launched.”


      • Al Shubtill says:

        Thanks for posting the link nfop; the quote from the piece which Pollys lifted, reminds me of this from Oriana Fallaci’s book “The Force of Reason” –

        “The only art in which the sons of Allah have always excelled, the art of invading and subjugating. Their most coveted prey has always been Europe, the Christian world.”


  2. Thoughtful says:

    OMG the conspiracy nutters were right all along !



  3. magicoat says:

    Are there different kinds of terrorists? The short answer is no! All terrorism, meaning the deliberate and indiscriminate killing of civilians, is morally wrong and indefensible. But, in Europe and elsewhere people seem to think there are “good” terrorists and “bad” terrorists. My terrorists are bad, because they attack my citizens and kill my people and harm innocent lives. But, your terrorists are good, because they are motivated by desperation and frustration over the policies of your government. My terrorists kill people for no apparent reason, they are crazy and irrational. Your terrorists on the other hand are responding to specific rational decisions, such as the building of settlements and occupation. So when a Muslim extremist with a suicide belt blows himself up in a crowded theatre or shoots people indiscriminately, if they are French people that is bad, but if they are Israeli people on a bus that is good. Well, not exactly good, but understandable and somehow justified.
    Note that the UN does not have an agreed definition of terrorism because the Arab countries have prevented a definition that might include the terrorist attacks against civilians carried out by Palestinians, who they do not want to be classified as terrorists. Pres. Hollande has stated that he will bring a resolution to the UN Security Council to have them unite against terrorism. But, how can they do that it they don’t know what terrorism is? On Friday a father and son were murdered while driving in a car near Jerusalem. Was that not terrorism? If the SC resolution does not incolude that as terrorism then it cannot be justified.

    So now, after the horrific attacks in France, where they used suicide belts and kalashnikov automatic rifles against unarmed defenseless civilians, let us dispense with the liberal cant. All terrorism is intrinsically wrong and morally unjustifiable and because it is carried out by a Syrian or a Palestinian or an Algerian or an Egyptian Muslim, against a night club in Casablanca, a train in Madrid, a family driving in a car in Jerusalem, a rock concert in Paris or a Russian airplane, makes no difference. All terrorism is barbaric and must be fought.

    Please note BBC there cannot be a double standard on terrorism.


  4. seismicboy says:

    After some unusual signs appeared that the BBC might have inadvertently made some unbiased news coverage, things are back to normal with a piece that basks in the illegal muslim immigrants who populate Saint Denis (or petit Ragga as it might soon be called) who have turned this suburb into a complete shit hole by the sounds of it. The something for nothing, society owes us brigade Francais are there and the BBC can’t get enough it seems.


    • chrisH says:

      I stayed in St Denis a long time ago…it was a classic student, cheap B and B place…no banlieu at all!
      If it really IS one now-and the BBC aren`t lying as per-then that creeps me out…as if the skin cancer has erupted in the dermis, not just the epidermis.
      How Islam can take a normalish Moss Side type area and create a Le Defence within 15 years?…some virus is Islam!


    • johnnythefish says:

      When I ask about the Paris attacks, Celine blames French government policy.

      “I think there will be a third world war. But France has been asking for it because of its intervention in Syria,” she says.

      “The Paris attacks lasted three hours – but this happens everyday in Syria. And Palestinians are dying, too.

      “A quarter of Paris says: ‘Pray for the French, pray for Paris’ – but they don’t do it for Palestinians. They have called for solidarity with the Palestinians for some time – but they did it as if it was fashionable.”

      Celine just out of kindergarten by the looks of it, so very much in tune with the BBC agenda.

      You despair, you really, really do.


  5. oldartist says:

    I had to smile at the spat between Ken Livingstone and Kevan Jones on today’s Daily Politics. On being stopped by a reporter Red Ken stated quite vehemently that he didn’t think an apology was necessary after making an offensive remark to Kevan Jones, regarding the latter’s mental health. We know Livingstone has some form in these matters. I’m sure everyone remembers the concentration camp guard insult.

    Apparently Red Ken has apologised now after a telling off from little Jeremy. Personally I’m all for free speech, but imagine Livingstone’s reaction if anyone, particularly anyone from the right, had offended any of his fave minorities.


    • CranbrookPhil says:

      Ken Livingston has been on the radio every day recently, now that we don’t hear quite so much from Giles Fraser is Ken the Beeb’s new voice of ‘reason’?


    • Chop says:

      “Imagine Livingstone’s reaction if anyone, particularly anyone from the right, had offended any of his fave minorities.”

      Or his Newts…Batrachophobic bastards!….it’s a hate crime.


      • oldartist says:

        Excellent Chop!


      • hadda says:

        “Why do you call him Tiny?”

        “Because he’s my newt.”


        • Chop says:

          Newts need to stand up against Islamic terrorism…#NewtsAgainstISIS.

          You would soon see Ken’s size 9’s coming down on them…even his Newts would lose in a game of protectionism top trumps in favour of Muslims.

          Slippery racist….erm, phobic devils.


    • John Anderson says:

      Livingstone’s initial “apology” was hardly an apology. Even the BBC is reporting that Livingstone spent hours refusing to back down after his disgraceful remarks.


    • john in cheshire says:

      Mr Livingstone appears regularly in LBC. I’ve never listened to him but the very fact they give him airtime speaks volumes about the radio station. I can’t find one radio station here in England that presents news and current events without a left-wing bias. I’ve found myself listening to Alex Jones news on internet radio.


    • chrisH says:

      Anybody checked Kens drinking?…seems pissed to me a lot of the time.
      Or is its the onset of something serious for old age.


    • johnnythefish says:

      Livingstone is the vilest, most odious, repulsive, unpatriotic political figure indigenous England has ever produced.

      Strangely though, he has yet to be accosted by Eddie Mair about his character (unlike Boris).


      • nofanofpoliticians says:

        The other thing I recall about Livingstone is that he got away with with little harassment or explanation around his tax-avoidance that was highlighted in his last mayoral election campaign against Boris. His little problem was just allowed to go away.

        That tactic was so evidently based as a trap for Boris and yet it ensnared Livingstone.

        Strange thing is that in the interim we have had numerous elections, and in none of them has anyone been asked to provide their tax detail/ information. The requirement has simply evaporated.


  6. popeye says:

    Lenin allegedly said “The capitalists will sell us the rope with which we will hang them”. We may now say that Western Civilisation (especially the BBC if that’s not an oxymoron) welcomed the society that would destroy it. (For the pedants, I know that Lenin never actually used those words but it is a good paraphrase)


  7. G.W.F. says:

    Is there a by election somewhere in the North? I heard that Michael Meacher of Oldham was dead and that candidates had been selected for the various parties. But I wonder if anything is being reported?


    • JimS says:

      Either Google isn’t your friend or you are wondering why the BBC isn’t interested?

      Oldham West & Royston By-election 3rd December 2015

      Some bricks fell on a BMW, care of Catastrophic Extreme Weather Event Barney, though.


    • John Anderson says:

      UKIP was 8 to 1 a few days ago in Oldham. Now down to about 7 to 2 – even before Corbyn’s latest gaffes. Tories are 100 to 1 so their previous vote will likely switch en masse to UKIP,

      This could be a big upset – eg how does the Labour Party get its traditional party workers out on the streets to shepherd the vote. And have the Election Officers for the borough applied the recent tightening of the postal vote arrangements ?

      Not surprising the BBC keeps it all very muffled – just like they muffled Farage’s major post-Paris speech in Basigstoke on Monday, and today’s press conference by Leave.EU.


    • john in cheshire says:

      It was briefly reported on Granada Reports last night. They interviewed the labour and conservative candidates but ignored the UKIP candidate, just showing, at the end of the piece, a list of all candidates. I only watch live TV when visit my mother’s house and had thought ITV news was less biased than the bbc but from this and other ITV reports, including the immigrant swarm, I’ve come to the conclusion that it’s just as biased as the bbc. It would be nice to say ‘ at least we don’t pay for itv’, but in fact, we do because you can’t watch ITV without paying £145.50 for a TV licence. And there’s a democratic deficit in all of this because, without a TV licence, you can’t watch the Parliament channel.


      • Doublethinker says:

        As you say in a previous post there is no MSM outlet in the UK which isn’t heavily leftward leaning. We desperately need some balance to our news, we need a Fox station, but of course the liberal left establishment grants broadcasting licenses so there is no hope of getting one. Our only hope is that more and more young people get their news via the net and that some balance is available there. But the Tories seem quite happy to let the BBC try and corner that outlet as well by charging us an increased general tax dedicated to the BBC, so that the corporation can fund its internet activities without having to charge the consumer directly for them.


        • MD66 says:

          Try listening to talk2meradio. Available live on the internet from 10 to 1pm or as a three one hour podcasts.

          The app is available on Android and iOS and the podcasts are available via any podcast app.

          Not MSM and with plenty of unbiased open debate. I’ve been listening for a few months to the podcasts and it’s a breath of fresh air.


  8. The Highland Rebel says:

    Does anyone know why all these terrorist groups support Alloa Athletic football club?
    All I’m hearing from them is Alloa Ahkbar, Alloa Ahkbar………Alloa are great.


    • Nick Darlington says:

      Yes I’ve often thought that too. Perhaps they have a snack bar there – think of the publicity! Sausage rolls and bacon butties a speciality I hope…


  9. Xavier says:

    I am sick and tired of the completely made up liberal bullshitting of “right wing extremists” blaming all Muslims for terror atrocities. I haven’t seen one person call all Muslims terrorists, yet this is what bleeding heart liberals repeatedly bleat and cry about. Are they deliberately misunderstanding the point to get offended on purpose? It is, of course, much easier to shout “RACIST!” than actually try to argue back.


    • G.W.F. says:

      Xavier, Me too. Now can I ask all contributors here who feel the same way to help in devising a name or description of people who shout RACIST rather than meet an argument? I cannot think of a word which could describe such a common phenomenon. Help.


      • BBC delenda est says:



        • G.W.F. says:

          From that last scene in the Invasion of the Body Snatchers, revealing that everyone had been invaded.
          That movie always struck me as a metaphor for total mind control.



          • nofanofpoliticians says:

            Trevor Kavanagh said in yesterday’s Sun that “not all muslims are terrorists, but it seems that currently all terrorists are muslims”.

            Sums it up nicely, I thought


            • Al Shubtill says:

              I like this quote, about the correlation between Muslims and acts of terrorism, from Bill Maher:

              “When there are this many bad apples, there is something wrong with the orchard.”


            • popeye says:

              You can measure the support of the British Muslim community by the number of fatwas issued by its imams. Last time I looked there were………… Hmmmmm let me see….

              Funny, I know they have been issued against cartoonists, film-makers, authors (Rushdie anyone) etc. though I admit that these are far more reprehensible than the BBC “militants” in Paris


            • richard D says:

              I believe Mr Kavanagh’s statement may be a paraphrase of the original comment….

              “It is a certain fact that not all Muslims are terrorists, but it is equally certain, and exceptionally painful, that almost all terrorists are Muslims.”

              Amazingly, this was written by Abdelrahman al-Rashid, the Managing Director of the satellite channel al-Arabiya…………….in 2004. He was castigated widely inside the Arab world at the time, for daring to report the truth, but I cannot be the only one who believes his comment was correct then, has been correct since then, and continues to be correct now and for the foreseeable future.

              But the BBC continues to try to peddle the line that terrorism and Islam have nothing whatsoever to do with each other.


      • john in cheshire says:

        They’re communists. The unfortunate fact is that a lot of them probably don’t even recognise themselves as such.


      • Athelstan says:

        How about ” Don’t be Racaphobic”.
        ” You’re obviously suffering from Racaphobia ”
        “Don’t you know Racapbobia is a crime and I’m reporting you to the appropriate authorities”
        “I’ve got your disgusting comment on my iphone and your racaphobia will be seen by millions on Facebook, twitter, the Daily Mail and you’ll deserve everthing that’s coming your way.”
        “I hate Racaphobists”
        Will this do to get everyone started?
        NB The c is pronounced as in Race and Racist


        • Nibor says:

          Shoracisbloc , as shout for shout racist and bloc discussion


        • Stuart Beaker says:

          Tar-gobbing, sneer-mongering, dark-vomitting rent-a-shouts. Puke-mantled ear-fillers.

          Bag-orgasmic logocides. Filthy-fingered sound-thieves.


  10. Thoughtful says:


    The Media Show on Radio 4 is indulging in some serious navel gazing about the coverage of the attacks in Paris, I mean, should ‘we’ have even used the word ‘terrorist’ – I think we’re going to find that word absent from Der Lugenpresse along with Islam Muslim, Jihad and others very soon.

    series of co-ordinated attacks in Paris on Friday night resulted in the deaths of 132 people. Media outlets quickly mobilized with blanket coverage across television, radio, newspapers and social media. How do the news media outlet co-ordinate and respond to such a breaking and dangerous situation? How do you decide what is a proportionate amount of coverage? And with so many unconfirmed reports, how can you be sure of the reliability of your story? Steve Hewlett discusses the pitfalls and challenges with a panel of guests; John McAndrew from Sky News’, the BBC’s Gavin Allen, Professor of TV journalism Stewart Purvis, Jeremy Griffin from The Times and Ryan Broderick from Buzzfeed UK.

    And then:

    The chair of the Commons culture, media and sport select committee has written to BBC director general Tony Hall about his concern over the corporation’s plans to spin off its TV production arm into a separate commercial unit and create BBC Studios. Conservative MP Jesse Norman, who replaced John Whittingdale in May, says he has asked Lord Hall about the impact on commercial rivals and the production sector. He tells Steve Hewlett why its important for the public to be fully consulted over the creation of the new subsidiary.

    Were any readers aware this was going on? Seems the BBC is up to a little privatisation of its own without any help from external agencies, thus proving it can be done !


    • AlexM says:

      Yes, this has been public knowledge for a while. The only reason for doing it is to make part of the BBC an independent production company so that what goes on there is outside the purview of the BBC governors/Trust or whatever comes next: BBC collects £3.5 billion of license fee money and pays £3.4 billion in contracts for programs over to its subsidiary where it can squander it as it sees fit, leaving only the pay and perks of the DG and his typing pool open to public scrutiny.


  11. BRISSLES says:

    Cruises aren’t what they used to be. Just returned from one, and the continually repeated info on BBC World News tv is brain dulling stuff. With only a choice of Sky or Beeb (Fox, CBS etc aren’t interested in reported atrocities in Europe) – I got the fully monty of reporters milking and padding for all they were worth. In the confines of a Cabin you really notice these things. Things were livened up somewhat by a fellow table guest who asked “had we realised that over 90% of the crew were Muslim Phillipinos, and how easy it would be for any one of them to blow up the ship to kingdom come !”… that made a few of ’em choke on their lobster I can tell you ! Not an unknown possibility though. After the beaches, the airliners, concerts, restaurants and stadiums, then the Western infidels who take cruising holidays with muslims attending to their every whim, could be on the next ‘hit’ list.


    • Julio says:

      How do they know they were muslim Philipinos and not the more usual catholic?


    • Doublethinker says:

      Indeed. I am certainly not going to be a happy traveller when I go through a UK airport where the security checkers have the look of possible being Muslims. But to have this fear of being blown up at 30,000 feet is obviously hysterical Islamophobia and blatantly racist to boot. Although I imagine that a few more planes being brought down by bombs may well make this fear a main stream one. No doubt we will all get stern lectures from the BBC to the effect that we should regard our possible deaths as being necessary for the advancement of multicultralism , which of course we know is merely the first phase of the creation of the Caliphate. Its a pity the BBC doesn’t understand that , but hang on perhaps they do and see it as desirable.


      • BRISSLES says:

        It may well be ‘hysterical Islamophobia and blatantly racist to boot’ but I think the chances of being assassinated by a group from my local Methodist church is practically nil.


  12. Guest Who says:

    BBC News on FaceBook
    18 hrs · Edited ·
    1939: US rejects Jewish refugee children from Germany.
    2015: Syrian refugees not welcome after ‪#‎ParisAttacks‬.
    Many people are comparing these today. But is it fair?

    Love the ‘there are some who say, so now we can stick this blatant rabble rousing opinion in as a headline: “US says no to Syrian refugees: 1939 all over again?

    Actually no, I don’t. It sucks.

    And it seems a lot of others agree.


    • ray_f says:

      BBC ‘Many people’, ‘some who say’ etc. Quality journalism. Reference your sources journos. Otherwise your probably talking bollox. I would think that was the first rule of journalism, unless their safety is in question.


  13. Guest Who says:


    Not too sure who you are calling ‘the right’, Nick, but if they do they might find I am more inclined to vote for them than currently.


  14. nogginator says:

    After listening to a trope of lies from, Camoron, or T May, or the BBC, or LBC

    This is GREAT, give this a listen, as usual encapsulates the situation perfectly
    New ISIS

    BBC waffling about a Telegraph advert, a “possible” march by Muslims hinted at by the MCB
    … they should draw a bloody cartoon! … you ll see a march then!
    Hope it is more successful than the Paris Islamic March
    France: Only 30 Muslims show up for rally against Paris jihad attacks, 30 out of over 5million?


  15. scribblingscribe says:

    Edward Stourton, whom I like, is presenting a program tomorrow on Radio 4 ‘Paris, could it happen here?’

    You would have thought a Newscaster would be aware it has already happened here. Indeed, it would have happened many more times more had it not been for vigilance of the security forces.

    Still, he will be discussing the matter with a group made up only of Muslims, so no doubt we will learn that the only problem is Islamaphobia from the hateful indigenous population.



    • Doublethinker says:

      Why is the discussion group only Muslim? Have the BBC told us why? But even if the BBC included some non Muslims they would all be towing the line of its nothing to do with the ROP. Surely to God people must wake up soon and see that the BBC doesn’t merely not represent them but that it actively undermines them and their family and their society.


  16. Captain Panick says:

    I met Ken Livingstone when he was an MP for Brent East and I was working in Harlesden back in the early 90’s. This was about the time of the first Gulf War. To put it politely, his knowledge of defence was at the level of ‘ Is that de ting at de end of de garden?’


  17. Guest Who says:

    Lean fare ‘in other news’ from my bookmark surf, it seemed:


    As I say, ‘lean’. but if about others the BBC would go ballistic, so I’ll allow it.


    ‘In a memo to staff (full details on Press Gazette) he’s irritatingly vague on how the remaining £2.5m will be found’

    Well, he is Director of ‘News’ for the BBC.

    Anyhoo, so far, so typically BBC, if mundane. Then, one click along, things perked up…

    https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/body/bbc (well worth keeping handy)

    Specifically this, which may be of interest to any who feel the BBC may just be above all laws, including those of the land…



  18. Steve Jones says:

    It seems the number of articles the BBC allows us to comment on is getting fewer and fewer. The exception being vapid celebrity tittle-tattle and technology stories (the section where Rory Cellan Jones markets Apple products). If you look at the comments after this article about bombing Syria you get a clue why the BBC doesn’t want to hear the opinions of its paymasters:
    How off message can people get?


  19. ID says:

    I was wondering who would be first, BBC or Channel 4, to question the French state of emergency on the grounds that “innocent” people were being detained without having committed a crime, Human rights. French Guantanamo Bay, undermining our values, -blah, blah. Channel 4 seem to be the winners. After exhibiting numerous peace-loving, patriotic, model Muslim citizens who hate ISIS, some counter-terrorism expert would have us believe these defenders of western democracy would be so incensed by these measures, they would support ISIS. Why? You would think those who were really opposed to ISIS would welcome any measure to neutralise them.


  20. Sluff says:

    Yougov poll today shows 20% want more syrian refugees 49% want none or fewer and 24% want the same.
    I knew this anyway but it was posted on the Al Jazeera news tickertape.
    Over on al beeb of course, no mention of this at all. Doesnt really fit the multi culti inclusive narrative


    • Doublethinker says:

      I suppose that a lot of the 20% who want more are Muslims anyway so in reality the number of Brits ( I don’t count Muslims as Brits) who want none or certainly no more is higher than 73%. Decisive in anyone’s view.


  21. Flawedlogic says:

    I have visited Brussel, Liege/Luik, Antwerpen, Brugge, Verviers and Charleroi on numerous occasions. What is striking is the difference that is obvious as soon as you enter either the Flemish speaking areas or the Wallonian (French speaking) areas.

    Liege ? Luik, Charleroi, Verviers are run-down and full of immigrants and a hotbed of racial tension, contrast that with Antwerpen & Brugge where the cities are vibrant and full of Dutch / Belgian citizens.

    I have seen many examples of Moroccan, Tunisian and Syrian immigrants attacking the local police and anyone unlucky enough to find themselves in the middle of their weekly riots. It is amazing that the BBC fails to report these weekly disturbances and that none of the UK media seems to have bothered to report on, a little digging would show that the Muslim population of Belgium is full of Islamic terrorists who are hell-bent on destroying what was a lovely country.

    Mind you, I suppose that Belgium is a perfect metaphor for the EU… a country with a split personality (French or Dutch) and one that is breaking apart at the seams with the constant influx of Muslims who hate their hosts.


    • Sluff says:

      From nofanofp at the top of this board to flawed logic here, i cant hep but ask these quiz questions from 100 years ago.
      1. In what country are Ypres, Passchendaele, and Messines? Juxtaposed with….
      2. How many French, Uk British, and Belgians were killed in WW1
      Answers 1. Begium in all cases 2. 1.1million, 760,000, and………38,000. Were they all in hiding?

      For decades the Belgium way is to stay low, do nothing, and hope the problem goes away.
      They are a soft, spineless nation. I am pretty sure that more recently, maybe after 9/11 or 7/7, they issued a decidedly ‘neutral’ stance but I’d have to really search to find the reference.


      • ID says:

        If the German media is anything to go by, the German approach is to keep low as well. I have just listened to the Anna Will talk show where members of the political elite have been explaining that every response to ISIS is a cunning trap set by ISIS for the unsophisticated to fall into. Hollande’s 3 months state of emergency is falling into the ISIS trap as the French are destroying their own freedoms. Our Basic Law would not allow this. The flood of refugees from Syria is another ISIS trap. Stopping the flood would make us less humane, just what ISIS wants. We Germans will do the life-enhancing thing and invite 100,000s more in. Putting troops on the ground in Syria? The quagmire trap. Unlike the stupid Americans in Iraq and Afghanistan we Germans won’t get bogged down for years in futile military action. And of course the “blowback” trap. All the “non muslims” in Germany would be incensed that crusaders were defiling Muslim lands and start blowing themseves up in beer gardens. All very Zen. By doing nothing you achieve action. Or some such ballocks. Maybe Putin will Groznyfy IS,. It would certainly solve the returnee problem


      • Wells says:

        Belgiums terror threat level is currently at “Beige”, its highest.


    • chrisH says:

      Agreed Flawed….so to read nofalofPs post at the start of this post from the Gatestone Institute was chilling.
      Only been a few times-last time in 2013, but you`re spot on re the Flemish regions being OK…and the French ones being trouble.
      Ghent and Bruges etc are wonderful_Ghent is one of the best cities I`ve seen.
      Went to Liege and Verviers as well-got mugged in Liege in the heart of their multiculti Rodunda area by some pickpocketing slimeball…wrapped his leg round mine, would you believe as my wife and I stood on…felt a right oaf…but the police knew of it all.
      Muslim Romanian type…but more effort was spent by the gay coppers at the station in collating the data, and giving me a helpline-than in one of them getting off their nice suite seats and sorting it there and then-very EU, and a picture of what Islam gets when it comes up against gay law enforcement…a victory every time.That`s the future.
      Brussels EU elite hopefully will feel Islams hot breath soon enough-the padded oafs are surely sitting on a tinderbox of their own creation.
      Liege?…Standard for the rest of us…coming soon.


  22. nogginator says:

    BBC giving airtime to Inayat Bungalawa on the BBC again … all crawling out of the woodwork eh!
    Moral Maze R4 – Islamic terrorism … 5 minutes of him, you know why we should appreciate
    Ayaan Hirsi Ali who is not on the BBC, not on Moral Maze, and where s D Murray?

    As long as Muslims say IS has nothing to with Islam or talk of Islamophobia they are a part of the problem.
    As long as Muslims say IS has nothing to with Islam or talk of Islamophobia they are not ready to reform their faith.
    and instead of demonising Israel, bring their experience, their trained experts to Europe and develop a no nonsense coherent counter terror strategy
    Ayaan Hirsi Ali
    on Ch4 News


    • chrisH says:

      AS soon as he heard his taqiyya tropes in that limpdick accent of his-I knew it was Bungle.
      I had wondered whatever happened to him-imagine he`s sniffed the wind, smelt a virgin or two and wants now to be onside with the umma.
      The equivalent of hearing Vera Lynn gargling in the next door dressing room-when Bungles About…we`re going to need to tool up.
      He`s the very embodiment of calling for Rushdies death,whilst getting the BBC vestal virgins for a speech fee…thankfully, after savile and Brand…there`ll not be too many of them.
      Hence the endless Children In Need and Kiddie Relief stuff via Dick Dom and the cBBC.
      How many DBS checks do we have on the BBCs staff…FoI able to tell me?


  23. Dazed and Confused says:

    What the hell has this got to do with a publicly funded broadcaster working on behalf of the British people?



  24. Alex says:

    Yet another Islamist act of fascist murderous terror but what do the BBC and the lefty media start to do? Voice concern over ‘far-right bigotry’ and ‘Islamophobia’. I despair, I really do.


  25. Thoughtful says:

    The BBC has refused to give any information concerning the amount of money it’s ‘charity’ Children in Need has given to Kids Company.



    The information you have requested is excluded from the Act. This is because our subsidiaries
    (including BBC Studios & Post Production Ltd, UKTV, BBC Global News Ltd and BBC Worldwide
    Ltd), as well as the charities BBC Media Action and BBC Children in Need, are not subject to the
    Freedom of Information Act, pursuant to 6(1)(b)(ii) of the Act. The BBC is therefore not obliged to
    provide this information to you and will not be doing so on this occasion.

    I’d say that the BBC had something to hide by not disclosing this information.


    • Lobster says:

      I hope that all the mugs who gave money last week are suitably impressed.


    • JimS says:

      The FOI request is inappropriate and the BBC’s response is wrong.

      The BBC isn’t responsible for the charity BBC Children In Need, it has its own management board and trustees so it isn’t appropriate for the BBC to respond at all. If they were being helpful they might have pointed out that any request for information should have been directed at the Charity Commission. However unless the request makes a challenge that the charity is operating outside its declared remit or is breaking charity law they are unlikely to be of any help.

      The Charity Commission does make public the accounts of the charities that it oversees, such as
      BBC Children In Need 2014

      I don’t think the BBC can be challenged as to how BBC Children In Need spends the money it receives. It is legitimate to ask though if what started out as an internal charity should be inflicted on us for a period that gets ever longer and over more ‘platforms’ as the years go by and also, should the best part of half-a-million pounds of licence fee money be ‘gifted’ to their charity for ‘hotel’ costs? (They claim that we sort of get it back because otherwise the BBC would have to spend money on putting on real programmes).


  26. Dover Sentry says:

    Jewish teacher stabbed by IS supporters. Marseilles.



  27. Alex says:

    The BBC is now quietly pushing the ‘alienation’ and ‘western intervention’ narrative that is an all too familiar hallmark of the left and their revolting apologist cowardice.


    I don’t care about diversity in the French suburbs. However, I do care about innocent lives being destroyed because of Islamic fascism.


    • Dave S says:

      As clear an example of an agenda driven article as you will find. The BBC is rotten to the core. Always the same attempts at moral equivallence.
      No Syria is different. It is a civil war and complex in it’s origins and that is why people die. Lazy journalism and sadly typical of our useless BBC.
      And I forgot the obligatory swipe at Israel.
      What depresses is the extraordinary lack of imagination. Young Parisians butchered like cattle and this author writes as if it is not a seismic event .
      Where do they find these writers?


      • ID says:

        It never ends! Fatty Staunton is doing a Goebels special on BBC R4 tonight. “Can it Happen Here?”
        Four Muslims explain why “it’s nothing to do with Islam”. What a stupid fucking title! It already has happened here or am I living in the same dream world as the BBC?. 50,000 ISIS “militants” murdering other Muslims in Syria would be none of our concern, but progressive politicians ,without any democrstic consensus, have contrived to create a massive Muslim 5th column which is the real danger to us. Opinion polls of Muslims in Britain and Europe seem to show consisently that 1 in 3 Muslims support Muslim terror.
        I’m surprised the Chakrabati woman has not been on the BBC, looking serious and concerned, warning of the dire consequences of any state of emergency à la Hollande. Not British, undermine our values, blah,blah We all know the mantras the BBC churn out like some massiveTibeten prayer wheel.


  28. Englands Dreaming says:

    More complete nonsense from BBC Trending
    ‘We’re just as shocked’ – Muslim messages going viral after the Paris attacks

    There is a great part in the report, the irony of which, obviously escapes the Beeboid who put the piece together:

    “In a viral video from Pakistan, five young men say that they are not going to be “apologetic” about the Paris attacks and “cannot be held responsible for a few deranged individuals who somehow claim to be like us”. They explain how they are no different from people elsewhere in the world: they get annoyed when they don’t get their morning coffee and “the only thing they slice and roast is a gooooood piece of juicy steak”.
    But as John Lennon’s Imagine plays in the background, they add in all seriousness: “We’re the same people as you. We have the same fundamental problems as you have. We have the same hopes, dreams and ambitions as you.”

    Imagine there’s no religion. Now there’s a thought.


  29. Sinniberg says:

    When the terrorist attacks took place in Paris last week half of me was wondering when we would see the BBC jumping to the defence of Muslims/Islam and the other half was thinking that surely they wouldn’t dare after such a horrific event.

    But no, true to form, today there has been an outpouring of pro-Muslim, pro-Islam propoganda. Some of what I’m seeing and hearing is an utter disgrace. I don’t want to see the brother or cousin of one of the attackers “laying candles” on his balcony.

    My guess is they were just waiting until the initial rawness had passed because they knew people were so angry they wouldn’t want to see it.

    The link that nofanofpoliticians posted about what’s happening in Belgium with the election of two Muslim politicians shows the truth that there is no two sides to Islam. Those two Muslim politicians were voted in en masse by fellow Muslims who obviously support what they stand for – Sharia Law and the Muslim Religion. Why else would they be voted for?.

    I heard a little of the Jeremy Vine programme today(I was too busy to turn it off so it was warbling in the background) and the most telling comment that was sent in said it all, infact I was surprised they read it out.

    The caller in question pointed out that when all the other world buildings displayed the red, white and blue of the French flag buildings in the “Muslim world” such as the Pyramids and Mecca didn’t.



    • nogginator says:

      Ah yes! This political ideology Islam,always the same political reaction in fact it is overt political strategy
      1st silence, gauge how the ground lies –
      then damage limitation, an advert in the Telegraph/a proposed march etc–
      then some chosen narrative usually “backlash”
      and with that then of course … the rights industry angle Islamofauxbia … as regular as clockwork


    • Glen says:

      “The link that nofanofpoliticians posted about what’s happening in Belgium with the election of two Muslim politicians shows the truth that there is no two sides to Islam. Those two Muslim politicians were voted in en masse by fellow Muslims who obviously support what they stand for – Sharia Law and the Muslim Religion. Why else would they be voted for?.”

      And therein lies the big problem, the candle burning camp fire singing wankers believe that the only muzzer threat they need to be afraid of are the AK/suicide vest wearing lot, the rest are peace loving people who want the same as us westerners want…or that’s what the bbc/ch4/Sky etc,etc, keep telling them!

      To me a muslim is a muslim is a muslim…the burka wearing muslim is as committed to the cause as the muzzer holding an AK, they are just a little bit smarter and are prepared to wait to get what they want which is to totally control the western world for their gain.

      All of the warnings of Jizya, dhimmitude (if they allow it) and sharia are falling on deaf ears because the liberals simply don’t believe there is any threat…they are utter morons. They won’t pay for their ignorance but their children and grandchildren will.


    • TrueToo says:

      It seems to me that political ‘journalists’ and ‘editors’ at the BBC consist almost entirely of Muslims and their bleeding heart, leftie ‘liberal’ supporters. They really have hijacked the political wing of the corporation.

      Re Belgium, I recall an old interview with a Muslim leader in the country gloating over his predicted demographic victory of Belgium Muslims and the inevitable introduction of Sharia ‘law.’

      God, if there is a god, help us.

      All the more reason, of course, for the UK to get the hell out of the EU.


      • JimS says:

        The BBC employ people like Sarfraz Manzoor, who were probably ‘The Only Muslim In The Village’ , who go down the pub and watch football and think that they are ‘moderate Muslims’.

        In March he went looking for the ‘moderate Muslims’ that the politicians and the BBC believe in:

        Sarfraz Manzoor asks if moderate Muslims exist. If not, where did they go?

        Sarfraz describes himself as a moderate Muslim. He says he isn’t offended by satirical cartoons and belongs firmly among the liberal and progressive of his religion. But now he wonders if he’s something of a rarity.

        Is the idea of tolerance and integration a hopeful myth and the reality something more troubling? We’re often told the vast majority of Muslims in Britain are moderate, but what exactly does that mean? Sarfraz finds out.

        He found out that now some schools are 90%+ Muslim, that girls see the hijab as part of their ‘identity’ and that the new young are ‘reclaiming’ their heritage that their parents have abandoned – they are more Pakistani than their Pakistan-born parents. I think he was quite shocked.


        • taffman says:

          If they are so keen on ‘reclaiming’ their heritage they should be encouraged to head for the home of their heritage and remain there .
          Permanently .


      • mikef says:

        A notable exception is Andrew Neil. See his comments reported on Guido’s site, where he calls IS Islamist Scumbags.


  30. TrueToo says:

    It seemed that Dan Damon, one of the BBC’s less bad staff, was going to produce a reasonable World Update today till he got to Jenny Hill, who was trying to convince listeners that the ‘refugees’ waiting to enter Germany, to add to the 750 000 already there, consisted of children and the handicapped and would never in anyone’s wildest nightmares represent the slightest threat to the host nation. Absolutely nauseating stuff.

    Then he moved on to the presenter of the BBC Asian Network phone in programme who whinged about the imaginary wrongs done to Muslims after Paris, like one Muslim being scared to go to the bank in case he might be attacked by white people and another, on joining a solidarity rally for Paris, being asked what he’s doing there. And this was presented as evidence of a major hate wave against Muslims. (I’m not making it up.)

    Then Dan Damon said something that made me feel shame for him:

    “I think we share some responsibility in the media… one of the things that people want is for Muslims of good heart to come out and say this is not done in our name, this is not the God we recognise. If we’re not reporting that then we should be, we should be putting it on the TV.”

    How about Muslims doing that first and then the media could report it, Mr Damon.

    Then he redeemed himself to a degree with the following:

    What, though, do Muslims of good heart do about the guys who set up their stalls in West London, for example, where they are selling jihadist literature. They are outraging the local population, but they, because it’s Britain, the police won’t stop them, they’re allowed to do it…”

    Then he was, naturally, interrupted by the little shmuck from the ‘Asian’ Network who dodged the question entirely and went on to spout the most outrageous propaganda, saying that if people are spreading hate speech against Muslims they should be treated in exactly the same way.

    But of course, they aren’t. They are arrested even for criticising Islam, while the Muslim preachers get away with encouraging murder of infidels.

    There’s a helluvah lot more to Fisk in that programme but I’m afraid that I simply cannot do it. I need a long, hot shower after wading through all that crap.

    For those with strong constitutions, have a listen from 14:30 minutes in:



    • JimS says:

      Quite frankly I don’t care if all the Muslims in Europe went on the streets to proclaim ‘Not In Our Name’ because the killing is just one side of the coin.

      The ‘moderate’ Muslims provide the cover for the killers, they vote for the appeasers that take away our hard-won freedoms, they provide the ‘democratic legitimacy’ for creeping sharia – “wouldn’t it be simpler if all food was halal, it will do you no harm?”; “wouldn’t it be simpler if all schoolgirls covered their hair – it’s just a uniform anyway?”; “wouldn’t it be simpler if you just ignored the true nature of ‘the prophet’ and showed ‘respect'”; “wouldn’t it be simpler if you just ignored our bigamy, it’s just ‘our’ culture?”; “wouldn’t it be simpler if you just ignored the way we curb our girls sexual urges, by intimate modification or capital sanctions?”. No? Well tough luck because with your ‘liberal laxity’ we will overcome you by flood, fertility and fatwa!


  31. Geoff says:

    So the unelected fossils have ok’d it for 16 and 17 year olds to vote in the EU referendum, the establishment are purposely dumping on the country again. This of course gives our lefty laden educational establishments and the BBC the best part of two years to step up the indoctrination and brainwashing. Cue endless propaganda pieces on BBC3, CBBC and Radio 1.

    I didn’t know my ass from my elbow at 16. Maybe we should have a refererendum on it…..


    • Al Shubtill says:

      I’m not so sure that allowing 16 & 17 year olds the vote, will benefit the ‘Yes’ vote as much as Cameron and the rest of the pro-EU scum think it will.


  32. taffman says:

    Living in the far western shores of these islands , can anyone tell me what the difference is between a ‘Muslim Terrorist’ and an ‘Islamic Terrorist’?


  33. Dave666 says:

    I find my self still deleting people on my social media page after 4 days.. The latest is someone in his early 20s who requested to be a “friend” as they are a “friend” of a real life friend He has a picture which is credited to radio 2 (weird) from Portsmouth declaring not in our name or some such. He has then gone on to inform us that some people are saying where is the apology. I assume this banner is supposed to make up for everything. Funny how it only appears when the cult are expecting a back lash or at the very least a drop in their income through selective shopping. Where was this banner when the Russian airliner was blown out of the sky? It’s got to the stage where I just delete and don’t even bother to point a few (well a lot) of facts their way which they seem oblivious to. Seems the bias sticks with the sheeple


  34. Ian Rushlow says:

    The BBC knows what’s important. The home page on its ‘news’ website is currently showing two items without challenge or thinking or research.
    First one: the Hijab wearing patriot (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-trending-34852817) about a Muslim woman who wore the Stars and Stripes as a headscarf on Fox News. Look at the first picture, a screenshot in which the woman, Saba Ahmed, makes the profound and BBC-approved comment of “You wouldn’t shut down churches just because there were one or two Christians acting badly”. One or two? Some would say the problem is that there are one or two THOUSAND Muslims acting badly in many Western countries, and one or two MILLION Muslims acting badly across the World. Secondly, remember Waco? Where the US government decided to slaughter 76 Christians because there were “one or two acting badly?”.

    Second article: the World Economic Forum reports that the gender pay gap between men and women may take “118 years to close” (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-34842471). A table in the article lists the ten most ‘equal’ and ten least ‘equal’ countries, the latter comprising: Yemen, Pakistan, Syria, Chad, Iran, Jordan, Morocco, Lebanon, Mali and Egypt. Can any eagle-eyed readers spot anything that those countries have in common? Because the BBC sure can’t. Nope, it’s a total mystery to them, as with so many things.


    • popeye says:

      “Can any eagle-eyed readers spot anything that those countries have in common?”. And no HYS for those with superior analytical skills to comment on it. Strange that.


  35. Peter Grimes says:

    Al Beeb’s Toady programme perpetuating the myth of the cost of Brown’s Banking Crisis. Kamal Ahmed said at 8.08 that it cost over a trillion pounds. The country’s accounts show it cost over £125 billion, nowhere near the trillion, and that much of it has since been repaid.

    Happy to pile as much shit on the idiot Brown as he deserves, but Al Beeb wants to heap even more on the bankers who BrownBallsMrsBallsMiliband failed to regulate.


    • chrisH says:

      Heard only a few minutes from Kamal Akbar(wonder what HIS views on Sharia banking must be then?).
      And no…not a mention of Brown, of Fred the Shred, of McKillop, Stevenson and Sir Hector.
      And_I repeat-no Gordon Brown whatever/My Cavity , the Cat or what?
      Funny how Thatch liberating the Stock Exchange in 86 gets blamed for it all-but Brown gets off Scot-Free!
      Fucking Nationalist Socialists like Sturgeon ,Brown seem to never get the blame…


  36. Thoughtful says:

    Today on Radio 4 they were in Rue St Denis They interviewed some young liberal who said he moved there because it was very ‘tolerant’, and was then shocked that the tolerance he had, had allowed a cell of Islamic terrorists living in the same block. Thanks to his liberal idiocy, he was so tolerant he tolerated them!


    • Leha says:



      • G.W.F. says:

        I think there is a contrast between multiculty liberal Paris and the country outside of Paris. Rather like London and the British people. We shall see come the elections.


      • chrisH says:

        Great piece of reportage-thanks for putting it up, leha.
        M.Flambes, Flanneurs dream is Paris…a fat spotted dick of a culture that will soon gets its remaining croissants stuffed up its gloryhole by the racailles, if Gavin is correct…and he seems to be.
        Remember Hollande getting pissed on all over on his open minded/empty headed death rattle of a “motorcade” as he scuttelbutted into the Elysee Fields of Leftyland in 2012…and his tin plane getting hit by “Blitzen” as he went to give Merckel a footbath…or be a footstoolie anyway.
        God is SCREAMING at us all is he not?…and every picture like these ones I mention tell one hell of a story.
        F…in mounting block for the new face of the Charlemagne tin god of horsies? Can you buy a suitable scaled Ka`aba black rock to mount the clapped out Champion or Trigger that Bin Laden rightly said was the West in equine form?
        Put Merckel and Hollande together-you get either Merde or Murder!
        Best learn how to make our own croissants soonish…the EU will doubtless ban them within a few years.
        France is fucked if their elite here are as craven as our BBC is for us…but we here know we`ll be fighting back…
        A picture of Jim Morrison, a soundtrack is a stylophone by Lennons “Imagine” playing on an autoloopie.
        “Sound And Vision” from the land that gave us Zola, De Gaulle and Debussy?….time to bail out on that great culture we used to admire so.


  37. Englands Dreaming says:

    If I read almost any of the print media it would appear that Labour is going rapidly into melt down due to the wise words uttered by Comrade Corbyn following Paris.

    This does not seem to be quite the case in the Beeb bubble who report on his trip to Wales where apparently he has a lot of grass roots support.


    • Steve Jones says:

      Poor old BBC. The water is starting to pour from the widening cracks in the dyke (and I don’t mean Sandy Toksvig, Jane Hill or Susan Calman) and they are running out of appendages to stick in them.
      The Muslim PR push just won’t find traction amongst the population at large and their political party is an unelectable basket case. Their desperate tactics are allowing the mask to slip past the point where a quick shove puts it back safely above the nose.


  38. Up2snuff says:

    More BBCeeeb pismromunciation (really poor diction &/or enunciation) today that had my ears out on stalks for a millisecond: the Belgian Prime Minister was called ShahMichelle in the 9 a.m. News on R4.

    Thought the Gatestone information provide by nofan at the top of the page had suddenly become very out of date.

    Charles . . Michel . . .

    Phew! That’s a relief!


  39. Oldspeaker says:

    The BBC “news” homepage’s mask is really slipping today, nice sprinkling of propaganda type warm and fuzzy articles that aren’t really news.




    William Joyce himself could have provided us with a more honest account of current events than the BBC. Who is driving this agenda?


    • taffman says:

      As the news of possible chemical and biological attacks from terrorists arrives, Al Beeb’s radio in Wales topic of discussion this morning? why aren’t we writing or singing enough protest songs about global warming or the environment?


  40. AsISeeIt says:

    I hadn’t realised homosexuality was a sport

    BBC Breakfast is here to put me right – A quick tribute to Jona Lomu and then yet another plea from the BBC for an ‘openly gay’ Premier League footballer to ‘come out’

    A suitable quote is extracted by the BBC inquistion from weak and willing football boss Richard Scudamore ‘the time is right’

    Just before Christmas? Or do the BBC put it on their New Year resolutions list alongside Euthanasia, narcotic legalisation et al? Don’t bogart the Bailey’s, Nan, this could be your last Xams – have a toke on this good stuff’

    When I suggest Scudamore is too soft to stand up to the PC BBC I’m not of course implying any effeminacy on his part

    As well as telling me about his past trouble with sexist email banter (penny to a pound that’s why he’s gone all PC) Wiki also tells me :

    ‘Scudamore is married to Catherine and has five children…. A qualified level 5 referee, Scudamore is a lifetime Bristol City fan’

    Yeah, we gathered that from his emails

    How about a BBC campaign to say ‘sex – kick it out – in all it’s forms – kids are watching’


  41. Steve Jones says:

    The BBC trying the old rise of the right scare tactic again:
    As usual, the comments suggest the BBC is out of synch with what the public knows to be the truth.
    Time this shameless bunch of nation destroyers was disbanded.


  42. Thoughtful says:

    BBC Today on Radio 4 interviewed some French Socialist politico loonie who told us that the deaths of so many people at the hands of Islamic terrorists was not as bad as the Front National gaining power ! I’ve heard this from the Fascists before, and it just goes to show how little regard they have for the people, and democracy.
    One of the most incredible things she came out with, was that the people might vote Front National because they’ve been telling them this would be the result of Fascist Leftist policy for years.

    Obviously reality is totally lost on this cossetted woman.


    • Englands Dreaming says:

      This is exactly what loony French lefties think and is the narrative for Michel Houellebecq’s book Submission.

      Fact is stranger than fiction.


    • Roland Deschain says:

      Any half-competent interviewer would have put it to her that this proved the Front National right. Naturally, that never occurred to him.

      You do wonder what it will take before reality hits home.


    • chrisH says:

      Was she that Senator?
      She elected?…and do we really need to care?
      Basically, the Left talk over our heads and wish to massage and bend a Muslim electorate to its rainbow alliance with disability scooters, hummus vol au vents and Saviles old photo albums by way of inducement.
      If I hear one more Muslim that requires hugs, understanding and a media space to tell us why she is the real veiled face of “Soumise”…and her fear that Marine Le Pen might get a parish council seat in Le Puy or such if we don`t just bury the dead quickly and quietly( and Islamic rites would show some compassion for her, SVP)-then I`ll gag on Bin Ladens ball gag and get a whetstone for her with the piss of Abu Muzzadeen to wet it.
      HTF did HE end up in Hungary then?…BRITISH?…fuck off BBC!


    • Invicta 1066 says:

      Supporter of FN stabs a Muslim in a street.
      How does the BBC report and react?
      1) He is not a typical FN supporter, in fact because of his action he cannot be a supporter of this legitimate political party, whose member and supporters love the French culture and history.
      2) All FN supporters, like this man are racist, fascist, Islamophobic hate filled scum and the Party must be prosecuted and banned for this action


  43. seismicboy says:

    The BBC would do well to note the word ‘terrorist’ that other media outlets are using.. What is it about the BBC that they cannot bring themselves to use the word ‘terrorist’ and ‘muslim’ in the same sentence. Instead they prefer neutral words like Jihadi or militant. They are showing their true colours by romanticising and championing these muslim terrorists and not describing them accurately. There is no place for political correctness when you are dealing with murdering muslims, as the French police and security services are now showing.


  44. taffman says:

    My message to Al Beeb and the Government this morning following the France/Belgium fiasco, is their own words, ‘There are lessons to be learned ‘.
    Vote here ……………………..


  45. ObiWan says:

    Well worth a listen – James Delingpole and Douglas Murray have a chat about the Paris terrorist attacks:

    November 18, 2015
    When are we ever going to understand that Islamist terrorists really mean it? This is the theme of a special Paris edition of Radio Free Delingpole starring the go-to expert at dark times like these – Douglas Murray, Associate Director of the Henry Jackson Society. Douglas has been warning for years that attacks like the one on Paris were coming. How did he know? Because unlike so many politicians and commentators who find it more seductive to bury their heads in the sand, Murray listens to what the Islamists are saying, studies what they do and finds little reason to believe that peace and love are about to break out soon if only we light a few more candles and get James Taylor to sing You Got A Friend again – maybe this time with the whole Laurel Canyon crowd. So: who’s to blame? Where do we go from here? Are Britain and the US next on the list? And is there any damn thing we can do about it? Douglas has all the answers…


    You won’t hear this anywhere on the BBC! I wonder why?


  46. nogginator says:

    BBC – News night … all the worms are crawling out of the woodwork 2
    Using the slimiest of Islamist-in-chiefs Tariq Ramadan as a source, to look
    at what to do, and does it have anything to do with Islam 😀
    The MCB, Inayat Bungalawa, and T Ramadan in one day!
    Sheesh! … “Taqiya” triple whammy.
    Well, if ever you ever want to hear confusing obfuscation, projectionism, denial
    and dereliction of decency in one day … Al BBC is your choice.

    The surreptitious, insultingly obvious manner in which these simpering pseudo-intellectuals bamboozle the “all ears”
    BBC is very depressing
    While the population know the score, and want decision, the enemedia, the politicians, the professors, the supposed elites
    drive them in the opposite direction, by their flapping denial, whining and hand wringing self blame.

    … IT WON T BE LONG! … tick tick tick

    Brother Tariq – The Doublespeak of Tariq Ramadan
    By Caroline Fourest, a classic


  47. Thatcherrevolutionary says:

    Best analogy I’ve heard about the immigrant wave –

    ‘if you had 10 grapes and were told 2 of them were poisonous, would you eat any of them?’


    • JimS says:

      That means that you have a choice from eight that are good to eat.

      Get another ten from the same source and now you have a choice from sixteen, which is 60% more than the original ten that you were offered but these are all safe!

      There are of course now four ‘bad’ grapes, but we can’t call them that because that would stigmatise the other 16, (and the others queuing up to get in!).

      Eat enough ‘bad’ grapes and your body might adapt.


  48. Dave says:

    Oh no, the French are shifting right and may vote for, horror of horrors, Le Pen. Mardell is not impressed. Amusingly the BBC has allowed comments on this piece.



    • chrisH says:

      Ta for pointing up the comments bit.
      Note that “Private Baldricks” comments are worst rated-and, despite Tony Robinson now having Alzheimers-even HE might be more coherent than his presumed mini me.
      If “Private on Manouevres” is NOT a BBC staffer-I`ll be surprised.
      Yet his comments are loathed-the good sense of the likes of Wisconsin Bird get top ratings from the Demos.
      Imagine ther`ll have to be some “technical glitch” soon to close them down
      “Clear The Streets”…Inayat and Medhi are coming to the BBCs aid as we speak.
      And yes, Today features Webbmeister worrying some French Senator(eh?) re the Rise of the FLN….oh no!
      (To quote Bruce from Family Guy!).
      No matter WHAT Islam does-the BBC wish to match it from within, without the inconvenience of having to buy their own Stanley knives.
      The cossetted liberal lefties and IS want the same thing-but at least IS march under a black flag and I`ll know `em…the BBC stroll gaily under a stonewashed rainbow ribbon and think they`ll corrode us all from within by pouring olive oil onto the flames they`re warming themselves over…with an option of leaving trails for ISIS to spot the rest of us.
      Traitors…IS tell more truth than they do. Evil or evil deferred….our call.


      • Guest Who says:

        It’s still up, amazingly. Despite, well, you know.

        Not much to laugh at, but this one amused:

        859. Posted by Rather_Be_Cycling
        16 minutes ago
        836. Posted by Rather_Be_Cycling

        Not long ago, a British school choir was prohibited from singing Elgar’s “Land of Hope of Glory” out of some preconceived notion that it might “offend”.

        Jack Napier replied–

        That sounds like a classic ‘PC gone mad’ urban legend in the ‘Baa Baa White Sheep’ hold.

        Does it now….:




        • johnnythefish says:

          And this quote:

          “So much of left-wing thought is a kind of playing with fire by people who don’t even know that fire is hot.” George Orwell

          Though in Orwell’s time there were probably more naive ideologists on the Left than the out and out anti-Western Marxists we have now.


  49. BBC delenda est says:

    Yahya Rashid, IQ 65-70, used the student loan funds intended for his Middlesex University course, to join IS.

    Funds obtained by forging his educational credentials.
    Jailed for five years.
    Reports the BBC, and other sites.

    The BBC does not enquire how this amoeba obtained funds from a “university”.
    The BBC does not comment on the additional costs to real British people on keeping this scum in jail.

    Just sack the ****s at the university, it should have been evident to a tapeworm that this amoeba was not
    suitable. If he obtained funds without an interview sack more people.

    In fact make membership of all and every teaching organisation a capital offense.
    And stop the BBC licence PDQ, let them fail in the real world, and all go on the dole.
    Treat the Muslims as they treat others.


    • Tom Paine says:

      Today is International Men’s Day which I was unaware of until the spat between Phil Davies MP and Jessie Phillips MP.
      Breakfast decided to have a virtually all female show with the two female presenters. Even Steph was doing her bit at the NEC careers event in Birmingham, the usual ‘why oh why aren’t girls going into engineering.’
      So no discussion of male suicide rates, or the banning of International Men’s Day at York university on the very day a 21 year old male student took his own life. The fact that men are more likely to be unemployed, homeless and if in work, die at work doing the jobs the women don’t seem to want.
      I’m not sure if the decision to use the two women presenters is the beeb making a point!


  50. taffman says:

    Earlier this year this question was asked …………………..
    Today, more so called “British men” arrested in Hungry. Perhaps Al Beeb can answer the above question?

    The best answer would be to issue the warning that anyone leaving theses islands to head ‘East’ should not be allowed to return.
    Vote here……..


    • BBC delenda est says:

      The best answer would be for us to ensure that these organisms head due South.
      Six feet due South.


    • Cull the Badgers says:

      I saw the report on RT. Their reporter Paula Slier has my considerable respect. She was holed up in her office under police instructions because the killer was thought still to be nearby, and whilst having just witnessed the aftermath of the murders, was reporting in a calm, controlled and lucid fashion.

      Unlike the BBC wimp, was it Graham Satchell in Paris, poor boy, who started to cry because he had been standing in the rain for a couple of days. Had he just seen someone dead on the pavement and another dying being carried away on a stretcher, a few minutes before, both stabbed to death, as had the magnificent Paula?

      She, and many other of RT’s reporters are streets ahead of their equivalents in the BBC.


      • Rob in Cheshire says:

        And are probably paid far less.


        • BRISSLES says:

          I’m old enough to remember the Aberfan disaster in 1966 where an infants school was buried underneath a coal slag heap. In grainy black and white, I clearly remember the reporter (but not his name), he wore an old style Mac with tie belt, and with microphone in hand he slowly spoke of how this tragedy had unfurled. His voice broke many times, but through gritted teeth he relayed his report. The same when Walter Cronkite reported the death of Kennedy, clearly moved, he carried on reporting. On the other side of the coin I remember Fiona Philips (now defunct from a morning news show) reporting on the death of Princess Diana, totally unemotional as though she was reading the weather forecast.