Well then. The morning after. I have never enjoyed watching the BBC more as it chokes on the news that Donald Trump has won convincingly and is President Elect. Their coverage of the Election has been SO one-sided, SO pro-Clinton and SO anti-Trump that watching their smug faces coming to terms with the fact that they completely mis-read it has been fantastic to behold. Even Andrew Neil, the one BBC political presenter who I respect, has been snide as can be about Trump and so he too had to choke on his words and his insults and his smugness. What a night. Ok – NEW Open Thread so over to you! Thoughts?
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Surprisingly good analysis by John Pilger in RT interview today around 14.30. Might be repeated.
Said that the establishment and the MSM created Trump, whom they should have seen coming. No real journalists in the MSM – they’re just an echo chamber for a corrupt establishment typified by Clinton.
Digs at NY Times, Guardian and BBC.
Pilger is always interesting even when you disagree. Paul Mason would like to be the same but never in a million years.
Pilger’s like Michael Moore – both so far off to the left that just occasionally they start making good sense. It never lasts long, but while it does it can be briefly illuminating.
That was my understanding but I think I caught most of the interview today and it was well reasoned and spot on.
Perhaps the penny is beginning to drop here and there, BBC excepted.
Yes, Pilger is a JOURNALIST – not a school magazine child.
BBc North West up to it’s usual antics at lunchtime. Yesterday they were reporting on a charity that was selling T-shirts the followers of the cult of “peace & understanding” wouldn’t like.
Today they are back to the “so called bedroom tax”, When not spinning stories for the cult they like to attack certain parts of the welfare system. It’s not a tax. Today they report on a few cases succeding in the supreme court https://www.theguardian.com/society/2016/nov/09/families-win-supreme-court-appeals-over-unfair-bedroom-tax-jacqueline-carmichael But gloss over the cases rejected. I for one and I know of many more are not opposed to the under-occupancy charge on the basis of why should we subsidise people in rented accommodation that is larger than their needs, an aspect North West never bothers to discuss.
I for one and I know of many more are not opposed to the under-occupancy charge on the basis of why should we subsidise people in rented accommodation that is larger than their needs…
Yes indeed. In fact, you think the BBC would think likewise as surely these people are denying housing to the more deserving – like immigrants with large families.
When is our government going to take the issue of BBC bias seriously? It is a taxpayer funded semi monopoly in the UK news sphere, not a privately funded Channel like Fox News or CNN which doesn’t tax US citizens and is entitled to any view within the law . In return for our taxes we are entitled to a truly unbiased coverage. The USA is the worlds most powerful country and our most important ally. We the taxpayers are entitled to a truthful and undistorted reporting of its presidential election from our state broadcaster . We did not get that. The government must act.
Like I said, split it up. Better still give half the license money to a truly ‘British’ broadcaster.
Piers Corbyn and Lord Monckton have a super complaint going thru the system
..6 months so far
We should each keep a notebook diary log of BBC bias
Its a pity a load of people couldn’t get in touch with Donald to give him a full run down of the relentless hateful bias the uk media treated him with
No accreditation should be the demand
Choke them
No.6, I intend writing to him and posting a copy of the letter on this site in due course. I’m just waiting for the dust to settle first.
Any way to get his contact details?
C/o The White House 😉
Best to write to Trump Tower for now. Trump is the first President who will have to down size when he moves to the White House!
My paraphrase of BBC R4 “Women’s Hour” today:
Jenny Murray: “How could any woman possibly vote for a misogynistic potty-mouth like Trump?”
Token Trump-supporting woman: “Because Clinton was worse, and not all women vote purely on the basis of candidate’s gender”.
Murray: “Shut up! Shut up! I asked you about Trump, not about Clinton.”
They also had a big discussion about how Clinton was by far the most “qualified” candidate. As if running for office were like responding to a job ad in the local paper. Again it was left to TTSW to point out that Clinton’s record in office was a good basis on which voters could qualify her out.
Al Beeb & Co have got their hands over their ears and are just shouting like toddlers having a tantrum. It is absolutely wonderful.
Sorry this prose is a bit woolly. I have been up since 3am enjoying it all 🙂
Yes, WH is another one off my list, Don’t leave much. Wonder when they’ll stick it up, ‘Gardeners’ Question Time’, soon I would imagine.
They’re, already promoting Horrobin’s “Global Warming” terror in our times on GQT!
The BBC got the US election inexcusably wrong.
The BBC assured us women were alienated by Trump.
The exit polls show : white women voted 53% for Trump and 43% for Clinton.
The BBC assured us the educated were alienated by Trump.
Exit polls: 54% of male college graduates voted for Trump, as did 45% of female college graduates.
The BBC assured us the wealthy were alienated by Trump
Exit polls: of American voters who earn more than $50,000 a year, 49% chose Trump, and 47% Clinton.
They said Latinos and blacks would swing the election for Clinton but Clinton had a drop in both demographics compared to the previous election:
African Americans from 93% for Obama to 88% for Clinton.
Latinos from 71% for Obama to 60% for Clinton.
Trump actually increased the percentage of Latinos and African American voters over Mitt Romney’s score. Also the much heralded youth vote fell away for Clinton, from 60% for Obama to 54% for Clinton.
In other words, the BBC’s blind support for a candidate simply because she was a woman, a feminist and a democrat, over ran their judgement.
Sack ‘em all and make them repay every penny of tax money the BBC have hoovered from our pockets. Today wouldn’t be too soon.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/nov/09/white-voters-victory-donald-trump-exit-polls
http://edition.cnn.com/2016/11/08/politics/first-exit-polls-2016/
Obama said he would take it as a personal insult if clinton wasnt elected
Consider yourself duly insulted big ears 🙂
So THAT’S why he only ever talks to the corner of the room. If he looked straight into the camera he would look like the FA Cup.
It’s all beginning to make sense…..
As it is he looks more like a full-on FUcup.
Impartial state broadcaster website headline
‘Markets meltdown fails to materialise’
So absolutely no narrative there whatever
I’m now waiting for the ‘Trump Backlash’ racist attacks in the USA, like we had with the Brexit Backlash….
Trump is a billionaire and now he’s President of the United States – does the BBC think he really gives a toss what the BBC and friends think?
Large USA Poster: ‘YOU’VE HAD YOUR CHANCE – NOW IT’S OUR TURN’.
I liked the T shirt with the slogan “Journalist, Tree, Rope. Some assembly required”.
BBC website “Theresa May leads UK congratulations for Donald Trump”
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-37921086
Highest rated comments show how out of touch the BBC is ..
13. Posted by Stuart
on 4 hours ago
Sturgeon respecting Democracy?? if only she would do that in her own country…..
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Comment number 9. Posted by SryNoAutographs
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I hope that we strengthen our relationship with America following this vote.
Embarrassing people like Sturgeon need to pipe down. Same goes for the BBC and the rest of the media who like to think they speak for everyone.
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Comment number 6. Posted by Eggieplant
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Obama tried to bully us into staying in the EU. ‘Back of the queue’.
Not so with Trump. Front of the queue.
Great for the UK.
Now trigger that Article 50!!
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Comment number 8. Posted by rockin_steady
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the silent majority have spoken – again. throw all the mud you want liberals, when it comes to a vote where every person is equal, the sane people have come out on top again. first brexit and now this, this is greatest year for politics in my memory
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Comment number 50. Posted by Colin
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The message people need to learn from this (and Brexit, too) is you cannot shout down someone with opposing views to your own with accusations of racist, misogynyst, homophobe, islamophobe, little englander or any other slur for that matter. It is lazy politics. Far better to make effective counter arguments and let the voters decide and more importantly – don’t insult their intelligence.
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Comment number 10. Posted by Will
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HRC was the perfect foil for Trump.
She appeared with movie stars and sports stars and tweeted her little heart out but forgot that she was the Democrat who should have been focussing on the little people.
The fact that Ohio and Michigan swung away from her says it all- people with plummeting living standards forgotten by the elites in New York and LA.
Big lessons for Corbyn especially in that
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Comment number 60. Posted by Shyman Zorpux
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So pleased Theresa May was wise enough to remain neutral before the vote, unlike the obvious bias in most of the media, including the BBC.
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Comment number 5. Posted by Frowny Face
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And back to the front of the queue for trade. Everything’s coming up Brexit! 🙂
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Comment number 3. Posted by Dancer
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I see Sturgeon encourages him to reach out to ‘marginalised people’
Does she mean herself?
Her behaviour certainly is marginalising her
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Comment number 12. Posted by Global Yawning
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And I too.
In addition, what we’re experiencing here, via Brexit and now Trump, is the death of main stream media propaganda and influence.
Tick-tock, tick- tock, BBC. Phahahaha!!!!
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I do hope this result encourages our Government to, grow a pair.
(No, not sexist – It could mean, boobs as well.)
video of the conciliatory part of DT speech today
https://youtu.be/Jhbx6ALSLwU?t=528
…Here’s a better transcript on Sky
Just a shame that all CNN can waffle on about (all day) is how ‘DIVIDED THE COUNTRY IS’ as a result of Trump’s election. But that’s the way of the left, isn’t it? Where others seek to sow community, equality and tolerance all the regressives ever want to do is to break us apart, seed dissent and promote identity politics as a way to keep us all in our separate boxes. They really are total scumbags.
The BBC continues its utterly shameful and negative coverage throughout the afternoon, including a repeat of the ‘highlights’ accompanied by a piano dirge of the Star Spangled Banner. Matthew Amroliwalla – yes, really – seems in shock, probably wondering what they will do with all that champagne now.
It is already way beyond any attempt at balance, even the punters interviewed are 5:1 against and if coverage continues in this vein – as seems likely with the elite so convinced of their righteousness – one bit of advice I would offer to Donald Trump, in all sincerity, is to avoid grassy knolls.
Utterly impotent rage though eh?
The good folk of the flyover states have pissed on their crackers.
And even the BIGGEST BBC idiot(and how many can we choose from?) would surely not assume that the whole of the USA comprises red-necked thickies like we Brexit types!
Oh FFS BBC is this really the best you can do with our money? http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-34903577
If you had any integrity you would all know a lot more about this….https://www.donaldjtrump.com/policies and have reported on it like journalists.
Yes, that`s policies, with details, figures and stuff like that, even detailed comparisons with Hilarys policies, transcripts of his speeches…. so that people could make, you know, an informed voting decision. Or even be informed about the next leader of the free world.
Then Katty Kay and the rest of you wouldn`t have been staring at us this morning saying things like “none of us saw this coming” LOL!! Bwahahahahahahahaha!!!!
The bailiffs will be coming to remove the squatters from the white house soon?
Young yuppie black family on welfare getting turfed out and evicted from social housing by white multimillionaire and his migrant family!
BBC apoplexy, needs mocking up into a Guardian Headline
SOS has it.
Would you believe it is from the NYT?
🙂
I woke at 2.45 due to heavy rain (sjw tears probably) and flicked on LBC where i found Shelagh fogarty and fatty salmond acting like little spoiled brats over the fact that Donald was winning. Ian Dale seemed to be taking the piss out of them. Even when it became obvious that trump had won he still could not accept it. Fogarty being an ex beeboid was close to losing it on a few occasions which was a joy.
Switched on the bbc news channel and it was like a wake with andrew neil and katty kay. Kay especially was really pathetic in her attitude to the trump win. Its been like that all day and its getting worse by the hour. All negative and all the usual suspects dragged out to pour piss and scorn over the trump win. acting like spoilt brats as their little girl did not win. Sky is no better. All they care about now is that hilary is going to make a speech.
This day will be seared into the minds of all these bastards for years to come. I hope they have nightmares every night.
Hillary making a speech? is that the one she couldn`t make this morning for some reason?
As for Katty “None of us saw this coming” Kay……..ha ha ha ha ha!!!
Brilliant! BBC journalism at its best.
How could Kitty Little see it coming?
Only lives there, is paid to report from there and ought to be steeped by now in what REAL Americans think.
Not Huff Po colleagues at the ballpool.
BBC 21 mins ago Markets meltdown fails to materialise
Someone please go to wayback and bookmark this morning’s BBC biz doom page
The kneejerk reaction of a leftwing media is to call the voters “stupid” when a rightwing candidate wins the Presidential election.
Perhaps one day they will pause to think: why are the leftwing candidates not as popular as we like to think they are?
“It’s all those OLD WHITE men, they are racists aren’t they ?”
say our non-racist, non-age-ist snowflake friends
R4 Media Show is analysing yesterday’s headline
“Hillary has ALREADY won” …. Delingpole is on vs Emily Bell
JD “Snobby Left leaning media bubble”
EB ..”partially agree …but …not of the investigative against Trump stuck”
!!!
Paddy says “Do you think Obama was born in the USA ?”
EB is trying to say DT’s insinuations hurt Hillary
…ProjectVeritas or Wikileaks not mentioned
EB “I meet more experts walking here around Columbia Uni than I do talking to JD”
….Em but they were WRONG ..and JD predicted correctly
..so you have a strange definition of expert.
Paddy says “Do you think Obama was born in the USA ?”
JD ducked the question, but I do wish that instead of saying that he hadn’t seen Obama’s birth certificate he had said that he hadn’t seen Clinton’s evidence when she first raised the question of where Obama had been born.
This exchange was followed by a classic BBC moment when the presenter made an aside implying that anyone who didn’t agree that Obama was born in the USA must think that he was born on the moon.
If you don’t accept the BBC version of events you must be barking mad.
F me – live now on Fox News, ‘Hillary won the popular vote of Americans’.
What the hell does that mean?
And now Live on Fox News – fighting talk. No unity or coming together here – just an inability to accept reality.
Remember to Pilger, Assange said
“They won’t let Trump BECOME President”
I took that as even if he wins the vote , they’ll shoot him B4 office.
Did a double take on the people behind Trump.
1. Is that Donald Nielsen next to him, pretending to be Mike Pence?
And-as the Don walks down the line, is that Michell Obama who shakes his hand eventually.
Hubby and I both thought it was-by the time I went to find my glasses,the moment had passed-nice blue dress anyway.
“nice blue dress anyway.”
I do hope that it wasn’t a blue dress with a stain on the front.
Blimey the Left are so superior – we’re not fit to live on the same planet.
They accept gays, transsexuals and Islam – why don’t they accept us? (bleat, bleat)
BBC news channel currently obsessing about LGBT community and why any could have supported Trump. Their faulty analysis based on minorities continues . Until their editorial staff and biased reporters are flushed away, things will never improve .
I just don’t know why the bbc feels the need to champion the LGBT community. Did they actually ask any of them if they wanted a champion? If I was G, B or T (L is a bit out of my reach) I would want to live my life on my own terms and in my own way and I would gladly tell the bbc to fuck off.
L is still possible. I remember years ago reading about a man who had a sex change, but then decided he was actually a lesbian born in a man’s body.
Seismic – I think the BBC loves to turn certain communities into “victim” communities so they can do their virtue signalling bit and also look as if they are performing some sort of useful social function. (Its a bit like a bowel function but less satisfying)
They seem to love communities that are quite vocal anyway so it is always an easy gig.
They have done this with Islam – Islamaphobia this and islamaphobic that and the same with homophobia. It has reached such a state of stupidity where some of these “victim” communities can literally get away with murder, as people are afraid to be critical.
The LGBT community (whatever that is) aided and abetted by the BEEB seems to have developed a very thin skin and now always seems to be looking for issues. (but not the ones that matter)
In fact most of the gays I have known over the years are certainly not “shy pansies” and are generally earning five or six times more money than I ever will. Good luck to em.
This is why I like Milo because he does not play the “victim”
He refuses to be defined by his sexuality (though he plays on it) and will not indulge the MSM in their shitty little games and is unafraid to speak the truth as he sees it.
Bet Aunty wishes he was one of theirs!
Friends! Thanks to one of the good people here (I’ll spare their blushes by not naming them, although of course they are free to identify themselves if they wish!) for asking me if I was going to produce a piece about the literally disastrous election of the widely-hated Trump, for my Blog.
Well, I really hadn’t planned to, but the suggestion made me think (unusual for me, I know!) that I could basically recycle the piece I wrote in the Graun this morning, with a new beginning, end, subheads and (characteristically verbose) headline. Anyway, in case any of you are interested, here it is:
https://supportourjeremy.wordpress.com/2016/11/09/the-election-of-that-far-right-neoliberal-racist-fascist-the-widely-hated-trump-is-literally-the-biggest-disaster-to-hit-the-world-and-indeed-elsewhere-since-the-hate-vote-for-hard-right-brexit/
That is so sad friend Lefty. I was almost in tears reading what a travesty it was for the Trumper to win in such an underhand way, what a dirty trick it was to win more votes. Red Wedge
Literally tragic, Friend Demon! Many thanks for your comment, btw :).
Sniggeringly good.
Thank you, Friend Johnny :).
I have been trying my hardest to come up with something memorable and erudite to say in the wake of today’s momentous event. Unfortunately, I don’t seem to be able to come with anything other than…
F*CK YOU BBC.
Quite catchy, I like it.
Thanks BBC for all your hard work on Brexit and Trump – you really are clueless aren’t you. Oh and did somebody mention ‘Climate change’ how do you think that one is going to work out for you?. Billions of pounds extracted from us all by stealth and we all sit here and watch how out of touch you are with the real World. Get Cleggy ,Sturgeon and Toynebee on Marr this weekend because when they speak we all go quiet and listen – such huge intellects who have their finger on the UK pulse don’t you think?
Hillary speech “We are all equal in freedom of expression
…and we respect that”
LIAR LIAR LIAR
She meant for all Lefties, btw. No Hate Speech is allowed, which is basically speech that Lefties hate.
I would say the BBC didn’t misread this election as much as utterly distort it. There’s a huge chasm of difference between reality and how the BBC tries to present it, and in this election outcome more than any other recent event the reality on the ground has shown the whole corporation to be a pack of liars. I really hope people can see things this way…
Can I point that the a non racist
would not divide the vote into sexes, races, but accept that voters have a right to be treated as individuals
Dividing into rich or poor, degree holders etc. is fine
Indeed, ‘uneducated white males’ got the blame for Trump in much the same way as the bbc blamed old people for brexit. Singling out a demographic group like this has a distinct whiff of racism.
My maxim has always been that with liberals, hypocrisy is never far away.
As a Mensa member brought up and living in a hideously white Tory country town. I never associated people voting Democrat or Labour with a good education. The fact that Black people and left-wing middle-class people overwhelmingly vote for these Political parties, confirms my prejudice about these people being uneducated morons.
In fact the Labour Party was set up to represent the Uneducated, not the unemployable middle-class low IQ children of Tories, sent to University on a Mickey Mouse degree course, because they are only fit to do jobs that immigrants are brought in to do.
And of course dont forget the women without a college education also who did not support Hilary.
Real sistas got degrees!
and of course access to a “safe place”
I see that the FTSE100 has finished the day by “crashing” +68 points and the FTSE250 by “falling” +143 points.
Oh dear …..
Lobster,
The BBC’s Business section has been particularly laughable today and that is saying something. First off, when the Asian markets wobbled very slightly as Trump took the lead the BBC was trying to stoke up a melt-down. That effort failed so the next fictional piece spoke of uncertainty. Oh dear, that failed as well. Then the markets were, apparently, muted. Finally, as you point out, the markets closed up apart from the BBC Global 30..hahahaha. The Pound is also up. Poor little cub reporter Kamal Ahmed is having a deservedly torrid time.
My bank shares have plummeted upwards. I blame Brexit/Trump.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-4dFBq8878&feature=player_embedded
It just shows that Hilllary’s supporters are as unhinged, nasty, violent, vicious, racist as she is and to a man/woman/dog irredeemably stupid as well.
Nasty!
It turns out there are some women who really would suit a burka. You live and learn.
scary and disgusting. And they think Donald is a bully! Uncivilised (mostly) youths.
I think you’re going too far including a dog 🙂
17:25 Radio4 Bridget Kendall
“well first we have to work out what his policies are”
A page which seems to be blocked by BBC and MSM firewalls
http://www.donaldjtrump.com/policies
They seem to be having their own problems internally.
This on the earlier HYS with a headline about crashing markets that seem to have ended… higher:
‘We’re having some problems displaying the comments at the moment. Sorry. We’re doing our best to fix it.’
I’ll bet.
“well first we have to work out what his policies are”
Sounds familiar.
A bit like ‘There’s no plan for Brexit’.
You don’t think the highly paid BBC snowflakes would have sullied their minds actually reading Trump’s policies do you? The man’s a racist and a misogynist, everybody says so, so it must be true.
bbbc ALL afternoon just negative comments towards TRUMP – what a surprise!!
Oh well, back to reality…………
I think Nigel Farage would make an excellent US Ambassador – Anyone agree?
Didn’t I read Trump was going to make Farage his ambassador to the EU?
How about allowing the USA to rejoin the Commonwealth?
R4 8pm Has political discourse ever been as poisonous? ~
written about criticsm of Brexit High Court and Trump’s (failing) bid for Presidency (sic)
Now the euphoria of today’s election result is subsiding a bit, I thought this might bring everybody back to the reality of the Planet Zog we are currently forced to live on by a small but zealous bunch of shrieking anti-capitalist enviro-leftards:
Greece set to win €1.75bn from EU climate scheme to build two coal plants
The 1100MW coal stations will cost an estimated €2.4bn, and emit around 7m tonnes of CO2 a year, casting doubt on their viability without a cash injection from an exemption under Europe’s carbon trading market.
Leaving aside the sheer hypocrisy of this EU decision, the reaction of the climate zealots in this article i.e. those people who are currently driving our energy production to extinction and our prosperity into oblivion, are a joy to behold. Come the revolution, just as with Brexit and Trump, the little people will have their day of justice and these eco-socialist one-world shedheads will be called to account but not, I fear, before many innocent and vulnerable people have died for want of access to life-sustaining heat, light and modern technology.
Hope you’ll still be around, Horrorbin.
https://notalotofpeopleknowthat.wordpress.com/2016/11/07/greece-set-to-win-1-75bn-from-eu-climate-scheme-to-build-two-coal-plants/
Another 7 million tons of plant food each year. What’s not to like?
I lived in NY for 4 years still have good friends there. Their Revolution was no taxation without representation which led to Independence. Pity George 3 did not have the internet to give a non MSM non BBC view of his day and may be come to a decision to listen to their complaints and we would have America like Canada and Australia.
That is the bias BBC we are being taxed and no representation they are not fulfilling their Charter so we should refuse to pay their tax. May be this will lead to our Revolution and Independence it a way it already has. The BBC has a Charter and is a tax their bias and today,s broadcast is a disgrace but they are becoming irrelevant we look elsewhere for alternative journalism but the corporation needs to be bought to account.
ha BBC’s motto “£145 Taxation without representation”
Useless uninteresting factoid is that Trump will be the oldest US President ever elected, taking the position from Ronald Reagan by one year.
Will he survive the full four year term though?
That’s a good point Thoughtful, the greatest threat to Trump is assassination; though it’s worth posing the question: if he were to be murdered, the Progressives might discover that the person who emerges after him (subsequent to seeing what DT has achieved by putting forward the policies that he has) might make the Donald look like a SJW.
If they want him dead, they need to be aware of what the consequences of that might be and I don’t think it would be the Republicans selecting a John Kasich type, in four years time, would be one of them.
I hope Trump will be very well protected. Unlike Hillary, I feel he will value his Secret Service bodyguards. She looked down her nose at hers, and treated them like servants. Not wise when they are meant to take a bullet for you, but typical of the snootiness of an upper class liberal when they have to deal with real working people.
T
Surely you mean eight years, he must be re-elected.
Catch this libtard lol
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10157922397520647&id=826300646&refid=18&ref=m_notif¬if_t=group_highlights&_ft_
Votes need seasonally adjusting
Like Brexit I think we have to adjust for media biased of ProjectFear and ProjectSneer
The real Trump vote would have been 60+% if we adjust for the “hostile media season”
…. There will be plenty of people who will soon see
“Hey the world didn’t collapse like CNN said it would. I wish I had voted for Trump too”
turnout was up 4.7% so I surely its only non-Trump voters who stayed at home
I was thinking the very same myself. Adjusting for obscene media bias, dead voters, illegal voters just in from Mexico, multiple votes by one person, faulty machines (always favouring Dems), intimidation of Trump supporters – if you factor in all these things, then the real margin of Trump`s victory would have been substantially higher.
It is disquieting though to hear from people we know, BBC opinions being trotted out word for word. There have never been so many information sources and yet they trust the BBC – ‘The Worlds Most Dishonest Broadcaster’. I don’t reckon this is the BBC I grew up with anymore and the Daily Sun often has more credibility these days – that is quite a realisation to arrive at?
We so need a Trump. We do and his name is Farage.
gaxvil
Farage did it for Trump .
Agreed Gaxvil – but we also need a decent opposition party.Just such a pity that UKIP without Farage cant seem to keep their shit together!!!
It still amazes me that pretty much everything Farage has said about the EU migration and Brexit has come true – yet he still remains probably the most maligned person in the UK media.
I guess the truth hurts-especially if you have spent the last couple of decades not telling it!
Double Brexit
“For 70 years America has been the biggest inward investor into Wales and because of that firms from the United States have a significant impact on the Welsh economy.”
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-37923417 GOoooooo……Trump
Another example of BBC disconnect?
On The Media Show Jane Garvey tells us:
“Radio 2, which is the most popular radio station in Europe, has no women on the daytime schedule”.
Could that be why it is popular?
Smell the cherries being picked ?
Bottomline Across the networks you can almost always hear woman presenting 24 hours a day
Weekdays there are often 2 Women’s Hour simultaneously
….. WH on R4 and Emma Barnett on R5
And There a lot of women presenting TV eg Victoria 2h everyday and 3 women presenting that consumer show etc
Now across R2
Doreen Tipton Victory speech
She is my heroine!
These are the Policies of Donald Trump, which according to the BBC he doesn’t actually have:
– Scrap climate change agreements and dig for coal and oil
– Invest in infrastructure
– Reduce immigration and send illegal immigrants home
– Cut taxes for workers
– Increase taxes for hedge funds
– Stop getting involved in so many wars
– Stop treating Russia as a clear and present danger
– Make the Europeans pay their fair share for NATO
– replace Obamacare with something cheaper and more efficient
– Tackle China over currency manipulation and product dumping
– Reform or replace free trade deals
‘ you can be a bully and a bigot and get to the highest office in
the land’ Matt Frei, C4 ex BBC.
I’m enjoying the discomfort of C4 news as much as that of the BBC.
“you can be a bully and a bigot and get to the highest office in the land”
Didn’t she lose the election?
Got a form for you folks to fill in.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-us-2016-37929562
Show those luvvies you care!
thehoiman,
Thanks for the link, here is my question,
‘Hey Steve Jones, thanks for asking your question: “Given the BBC’s appalling bias against Mr Trump I would like to know if the BBC has damaged US/UK relations ahead of him taking office?”
If we’re able to investigate it further, we’ll give you a shout’
I don’t expect a ‘shout’ any time soon.
Good one @SJ
Mine : “Now bubbleworld journos curate reporting to direct public thought toward SJW_Media_Party.
Will they stop suppressing news/making stuff up ?”
SJ
I think that the Donald has been bold (and perfectly correct) in calling out the ‘corrupt media’. He laid it all on the table. There are not many people, to my knowledge, who have had the balls to do that. I hope it is just the beginning.