Open Thread Friday

Time for another one of these….any bias about?  Perhaps some careless talk?…such as Emma Barnett talking of ‘IRA soldiers’ giving the murderous terrorists a massive amount of undue respect that the BBC never affords to British soldiers whom they hound at every opportunity….Barnett, as she rejected claims that there was a witch-hunt against British troops in NI, never once mentioning Phil Shiner’s fall and the false claims he made that the BBC peddled as fact for years.

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  1. BRISSLES says:

    Woohoo, fierce criticism of the judging on the BBC SCD website. Ore, clearly not the best dancer, was placed top of the leader board (his parents in the audience) – and much to the disgust of posters. Clearly an agenda (in the name of diversity) for him to get to the top.

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    • Ricks Assessment says:

      He’s definitely been fitted with the BBC’s diversity roller-skates.

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    • Geoff says:

      Ha! Love it posters are revealing the result on the BBC’s very own blog – brilliant!

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    • Thoughtful says:

      3 posts here and not a single one with a link. Obviously this didn’t actually happen !

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      • Dave S says:

        ?????????????????

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        • BRISSLES says:

          Well, here’s the link…….. and after reading it, I’m truly shocked at who was in the dance off !!!! Now I know its a fix.

          http://www.strictlyspoiler.com/

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          • StewGreen says:

            So the Russian have hacked and rigged Strictly ?
            … o is my brain getting mixed up

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          • Deborahanother says:

            I go onto a spoiler website website every Saturday evening and read the posts about the dancers ,then the dance off spoiler is put up.

            I used to watch Strictly when it was just a dance competition but not since it became PC and fixed.

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            • StewGreen says:

              I once saw strictly and thought it a BBC excuse for porn.
              The BBC scowls at seventies telly like Pan’s People, yet today does a show where women enjoy dressing up in little clothes and having men gawp at them.

              They do look good if they are your cup of tea.

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              • BRISSLES says:

                I don’t know when you last watched, but this year the female dancers have been almost puritanical in covering up ! very little flesh on show, and certainly the pole dancers of yesteryear have been consigned to the bin !

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            • Deborah says:

              Another Deb, Deb here and I too go to the spoiler website for Strictly. I do find it uncanny how alike we are. Mind, I do still watch Strictly and watch how the audience is manipulated.

              It is
              -the choice of music
              -the choice of clothes and make up, eg Lesley Joseph’s after she started to do rather well, the make up made her look worse and the clothes more horrible.
              -the judges’s comments eg Claudia last night and Darcy’s comments about her and AJ not connecting. Hard to quantify but enough to justify lower marking. Also I think the judges’ comments are scripted before the show and only if there is a major slip do the judges adjust their comments.
              -the choice of partner. The BBC were determined to have a black person in the final so put Oti with a good dance and Ore with a popular pro.
              -camera angles, don’t show feet if they are not very good but the BBC want that couple to do well
              – if it is a couple the BBC want kept then the clip of their dancing shows the best bit, if they want rid then show a mishap. I knew Claudia was leaving last night when the resume from the previous week showed AJ slipping slightly when holding Claudia.

              The list goes on and on. Nobody knows how many public votes anyone receives and even the comments on digital spy website could be placed by the BBC’s PR department. I no longer have trust in anything the BBC does.

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              • BRISSLES says:

                I’m just waiting for the Twatter squad to go into meltdown after tonight’s programme !

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  2. Dover Sentry says:

    The BBC are angered and indignant about possible Russian attempted influence on the US election.

    Why are they not angered and indignant about their own total bias towards Clinton?

    Beats me…

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  3. ToobiWan says:

    Reithian values, BBC4 playing previously “banned” music; how times have changed! Someone has just said that the BBC are moral guardians, Britain’s Biggest Corrupters these days!

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  4. Dover Sentry says:

    BBC Online News:

    “”Couple buys house for asylum seekers””

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/video_and_audio/headlines/38269394

    Ticks all the BBC boxes.

    Welcome for Immigrants = Good.

    If you don’t do this = Bad.

    No opposing view of course.

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    • ToobiWan says:

      Lovely…er couple, do not spoil a pair.

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    • Techno says:

      It is only charitable if they actually *gave* the house to the asylum seekers ie. signed over the deeds. Did they do that? I can’t bare to listen to it to find out.

      Even if they did that, which is unlikely, they would have to own the house outright ie. no mortgage, in which case they must be better off then they appear as they need somewhere to live as well of course.

      Otherwise they just bought it to rent out to asylum seekers, which just makes them ordinary landlords and not particularly chartitable at all.

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  5. Kennedy says:

    I got around to watching HIGNFY. Due to living on another continent, I wait until it is on YouTube. I agree with those who posted earlier, but I was really struck with how Jacob Rees-Mogg maintained his dignity throughout the programme. Each time I see him, my admiration for him grows. I’d be a bit of a cynic, but Rees-Mogg just seems so decent.

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    • taffman says:

      Kennedy
      For what its worth , he’s the guy that I posted about recently and said ‘should be the next Prime Minister ‘.
      He ticks all the ‘real British’ boxes.
      What say you Biased-BBC bloggers ?

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      • StewGreen says:

        David TC Davies (Monmouthshire MP) is so good that there is a virtual media blackout against him.

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    • NoLiveTVinMyHouse says:

      I watched this episode of HIGNFY too – first time for many years – just because I saw Mr Rees-Mogg was appearing on it.

      I totally agree with you, Kennedy, he’s a great bloke and seemingly immune to discombobulation, however much poked and provoked.

      Here’s a great example from three years ago that shows him in fine rhetorical form at the Oxford Union

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      • Doublethinker says:

        No live,
        Thank you for this magnificent exposition of why if you are a d mocrat you must support Brexit. In 10 minutes JRM destroys any notion that the EU is remotely democratic. I think his case is unanswerable unless you don’t care about democratic values. Absolutely brilliant. Thank you once again.

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    • Invicta 1066 says:

      I wonder why the producers didn’t try to force the white female judges wig on the totally useless and unfunny Asian guy. What would have been his reaction? If only.

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  6. Rick Bradford says:

    A lovely short clip as Rees-Mogg turns the tables on the wretched Dimbleby’s attempt at a sneer.

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    • taffman says:

      Rick Bradford Greetings ! As I said, “He should be the next Prime Minister of Great Britain”

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    • Al Shubtill says:

      I love that clip; it is marred only by the braying of that intensely annoying tw@t Piers Morgan, who was unfortunately also on the panel that evening.

      Jacob Rees-Mogg looks (IMHO) like someone whom Churchill would have had in his war cabinet, a Lord Halifax or someone like him.

      I would have much preferred to have seen him as Chancellor, in the present government, instead of Phillip Hammond.

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      • Scroblene says:

        One of his best put-downs was to some small ‘journo’ on Channel 4, when he struck gold with ‘I’m just correcting your facts and then perhaps we can deal with your opinions!

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        • Grant says:

          So far as MPs are concerned, Jacob is easily the best of a bad bunch.

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          • Lunchtime Loather says:

            JRM also featured recently in a programme called “Behind Closed Doors” in which he (and Nick Clegg and Naz Shah) were seen talking to his constituents during surgeries. Again, he came across as a genuinely nice bloke.

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  7. taffman says:

    “Russia intervened to promote Trump – US intelligence”………
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-38273933
    Wait for it, we will have Russia brainwashed all the Brits to vote Brexit next!
    Come on Al Beeb go for it…………..
    😉

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    • Doublethinker says:

      Well it is possible I suppose. But it is a proven fact that the USSR spent decades undermining the UK domestically. Yet the BBC was ever willing to put its 5th columnists in front of us every day. Remember all those union leaders on their talk shows pontificating about everything under the sun, well most of them were in the pay of Moscow. Do we hear an apology to the British people from the BBC for spreading communist propaganda?

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  8. taffman says:

    Dear Al Beeb ,
    An example of an ‘Oxymoron’ = The Religion of Peace.

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    • AsISeeIt says:

      And this is why, having tried in the past, I don’t any longer bother with making complaints to the BBC.

      On the specific issue noted here of the BBC blaming Brexit for the death Mr Jozwik – I note that just this week pro-EU Polly Toynbee in argument with pro-Brexit Toby Young on the BBC’s Politics Show used this case and the standard BBC assumptions about it to state boldly “(The Brexit vote)… led to a death!”

      (I have to admit our Polly may have been referring to St Jo Cox – but the context was post-vote ‘hate crimes’)

      It is my assumption that the BBC provides arguments and talking points for the Left and here was a case in point.

      The racial element of the incident was always going to be murky, the accused, known to be under age, would therefore be given anonymity – so how on earth was the public in any informed way going to be able to judge the racial aspect ? For all we know he might be a fellow Pole.. or.. or.. or.. we just aren’t going to be told. It’s a secret. That element of doubt has given the Left free licence (to coin a phrase) to claim whatever they want with a fully Left-compliant BBC backing them up in their claims.

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      • Doublethinker says:

        The EU has caused untold suffering to millions of Southern Europeans and no doubt driven many to suicide. Imagine if UK government policy had caused such prolonged misery , the BBC would never even stop for breath in its condemnation. Do we hear any criticism of the EU from the BBC?

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        • scribblingscribe says:

          The BBC are 100% against austerity!!!! … erm, unless it is the EU inflicting austerity on the poor sods in Spain, Portugal, Italy etc. Then , as I understand it’s perfectly fine and anyone who who suggests otherwise has hate in their hearts

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    • quisquose says:

      Thank you for the link. Sadly predictable of course.

      I can 100% guarantee that if I was to ask any family member or friend they would still be of the opinion that Arkadiusz Jozwik was murdered because of his race, and because of Brexit.

      The actions of the BBC in this case went beyond bias, they were scandalous and racist, intent on fuelling suspicion and hatred. It disgusts me that I am forced to pay for this.

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  9. AsISeeIt says:

    BBC tv news sport slot tells us this morning :

    “The issue with women’s boxing… is strength in depth”

    In other words, there need to be more females taking up this sport. The message is delivered unequivocally with not a jot of question or any suggestion that there may be some debate or dissent from this bold statement.

    Well there is some dissent.

    http://www.catholicherald.co.uk/commentandblogs/2012/08/27/am-i-the-last-person-opposed-to-women-boxing/

    The liberal media led by the BBC seem to have lost their minds over this and opposition is stifled but it does exist.

    They say pick your fight carefully. Lets fight back at the BBC over this one.

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  10. Lock13 says:

    Nick Robinson – could they find anybody worse to stand in for Marr? They have Diane Hippo Abbot and Owen Jones think I might walk the dog instead

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    • Guest Who says:

      BBC grade Integrity, diversity and obesity.

      Like the three horserear persons of the Tripocalypse.

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  11. Thoughtful says:

    BBC getting worse with its left wing bias on radio 4. This morning we have ‘Broadcasting House’ and an item on the Supreme Court being ‘hideously white’ a phrase we learn was proudly coined by the biased BBC originally.

    So they find a black race hustling lawyer, who is allowed to claim that the entire legal system is ‘racist’ simply because it existed at the time of slavery !

    We are told that competence is now less important than diversity, and the Fascist continue to hammer the nails in the coffin of a country which soon won’t be worth living in.

    Of course there is no mention of the fact that black judge Constance Briscoe was dismissed as a judge for perverting the course of justice. She was one of the first black female recorders in England and Wales.

    Not much chance of getting a Black supreme court judge when they are ending up in prison, and disbarred !

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    • G says:

      Thoughtful, just take a look at Africa which has been stagnant for as far back as I can remember (despite Geldof!). It can only exist on handouts. South Africa, the only beacon of hope has deteriorated under Black Governance and is now equally, almost, the ‘basket case’ that the others are. You say, “we are told that competence is now less important than diversity”. Well, those options have now been tried in South Africa and they have failed miserably. Could there be some other reason why Black countries/states fail?

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      • Grant says:

        G,

        The only African country I can think of which is reasonably well governed is Senegal and congratulations to Macky Sall for that. All the others, black or arab are disasters.

        PS. Mr. Sall, please invade Gambia !

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        • Up2snuff says:

          Grant, Kenya has had its moments but now is struggling under a burden of massive immigration and Islamification & consequent terrorism. Where have I heard of those problems elsewhere?

          Do you think it will all fall apart in Gambia now?

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          • Grant says:

            Up2,

            I don’t think it will fall apart in Gambia. Jammeh is a busted flush. I just watched his broadcast on GTRS on friday evening. He looked terrible. Had lost a lot of weight in just one week , sweating, incoherent even more than usual, eyes darting , rambling. Last ditch stuff, I hope. And I hope there is no killing, except for him and his thugs of course !

            I think Senegal has had enough of his crap over the years and will intervene. Meanwhile, all my family and friends there are keeping their heads down !

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      • Al Shubtill says:

        Not only in Africa, look at the consequences of allowing Africans in America to get control of the governance of cities in the U.S. Have a look at Detroit, Baltimore, Selma, New Orleans.

        Blacks want to live in the world which the white man creates but don’t realize that once the white man leaves (or is driven out) he takes his world with him; they aren’t capable of maintaining even a semblance of it.

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        • Grant says:

          Al,

          True ! In contrast, many ordinary black Africans wish that the white people, especially the British, would come back and govern them .

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    • StewGreen says:

      No if you hung in there, they brought in a black specialist lawyer, who broke their fantasies, cos he said he can’t go to Supreme Court cos he is top in his speciality only, but that top judges from time to time are black, but then they retire. He certainly didn’t say “look at me I’m a victim”

      Now when it comes to that 11 member panel no-one should be arguing that at leat 8 of them should not be white …If we accept that 86% of population is white and only 3% is black.
      So once you have ONE black judge in 11 then they’d be over presented.
      Now thinking about BME which we could say they are 14% so ONE BME judge on panel would be under-representation, but 2 would be over-representation.

      Now remember the % we are using is for today’ population, but today’s top judges are made up of people who went to law school 40 years ago. So of course top judges ethnicity doesn’t represent today’s youth ethnicity.

      You could argue that Jewish people are over-represented ..should we cut their numbers down ?

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      • quisquose says:

        Now remember the % we are using is for today’ population, but today’s top judges are made up of people who went to law school 40 years ago. So of course top judges ethnicity doesn’t represent today’s youth ethnicity.

        This is exactly the point I keep making in response to “diversity targets”. They always point at the top levels of organisations and scream “horrendously white”, but the top levels of organisations are also “horrendously old”.

        Because the changing diversity demographics of the UK has been rapid over the last 25 years, any attempt to use averages and/or look at organisations leadership profiles, to create “diversity targets” can only lead to racist targets effectively shutting the door for many capable young people just because they are white. It simple statistics.

        The BBC of course is a prime example of this, but then the BBC has become a racist organisation.

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  12. EnglandExpects says:

    Nick Robinson gave the Abbopotomus a very easy time on Not Marr. But even he was professedly non the wiser after repeated questions whether labour would block Brexit or not . The abbopotomus was weirdly menacing as usual and apart from being derogatory about Welsh Labour and Little Boy Burnham, she left me grateful that Corbyn will never win power and be able to appoint her People’s Commissar for Truth and Justice with special responsibility for the Securitate.

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    • JimS says:

      Nick Robinson interviews prototype Radio 4 woman Juliet Stevenson, (all parts are either played by her or sound-alikes), who gives us her views on Brexit and Trump and how her new play has many similarities.

      The people have been given many promises but they ‘disappear like the mist’.

      Well last time I looked ‘Mr Change’ Barak Obama, (Middle East peace, Guantanamo Bay), was still running things and I, for one, voted on the referendum on the basis of where the EU had taken us and where it intended to take us, not some soundbite on the side of a bus that I never saw.

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    • StewGreen says:

      Yes today the Marr sofa tips up like a seesaw as the Flabbot sit on one side.
      But a serious point : The BBC is absolutely mad about diversity, but the BBC’s black output seems entirely split between Dianne Abbott and Lenny Henry.
      – I’m betting that normal black people are saying the same as me that “those people don’t represent me”.
      The BBC isn’t white biased, it is BBC ‘London Media Bubbleworld clique’ biased. Being from Scunthorpe I never hear my local accent ever on the National BBC, we get the mostly London based luvvies shoved don our throats.

      …Why’s the Flabbot on all the time ?
      Is it that she’s the one the Labour Party always put forward, knowing that if they put a whit man forward he’d be allowed less of a free ride by the BBC ?
      (I’m listening to Katie Hopkins on LBC now)
      Anyway I’d be interested in hearing from Afro-Caribbean people what they think of Dianne Abbott and Lenny Henry.

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      • Guest Who says:

        The BBC Primordial Green Room does seem curiously limited in actual diversity, perhaps explaining the calibre of organism that emerges from its gene pool.

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      • BRISSLES says:

        Its well known that Flabbot gate crashes any free buffet that’s going, so perhaps its cheaper to feed her face at the Beeb than pay her a fee !

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        • Guest Who says:

          The BBC have their sound bite du jour:

          Only slight problem is the credibility of the person it is from.

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          • AsISeeIt says:

            ‘Only slight problem is the credibility of the person it is from’

            Cue the exaggeratedly pompous pantomime-style roll of the eyes with the faux-matey use of the interviewer’s forename – à la la* Abbott

            * mixing both French and Italian language borrowings there as a tip of the hat to our european friends.

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            • embolden says:

              Mixing the French and Italian language borrowings……very good! is there a hint of Arabic too as a tip of the hat to the “new Europeans”?

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      • Nibor says:

        When pulling trailers out of Two Sisters there I should think Polish and Portugese give your accent a run for the money .

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  13. G says:

    BBC Marr, preceded by the news read by Christian Fraser. Hold on! “Christian”? Can the BBC’s HR department get on to that right away and replace him with a ‘Fatima’, ‘Abdul’ or something like that? “Christian” is currently on borrowed time. If he’s got a Christmas tree it will surely be the end of him………..
    https://www.jihadwatch.org/2016/12/uk-muslim-singers-family-gets-death-threats-from-muslims-for-photo-of-their-christmas-tree

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  14. StewGreen says:

    Delingpole: Polar Vortex the Next Big Thing in Climate Scaremongering

    Flipping Breitbart is so ad/video heavy that I load it thru a proxy server that turns all scripts off

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    • StewGreen says:

      \\ Kellogg’s announced on Tuesday its decision to pull ads from conservative media giant Breitbart.com because its 45 million monthly readers are not “aligned with our values as a company.”//
      Reciprocal Petition has 411,189 signatures so far pledging to boycott Kellogs.

      There is reason why most corps don’t indulge in virtue signalling politics, cos they they want customers from 100% of the public not just a political percentage.
      Who buys Kellogs in the UK anyway , own brand is just as good.

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    • MartinW says:

      Yes, reading Breitbart is a nightmare, and most of the time even the front page doesn’t fully open before the computer freezes. It would be great to know how to load it through a proxy server. Can you give some guidance, please? I’d be most grateful.

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      • StewGreen says:

        Either load it thru translate.google.com ..setting the source language as Scots Gaelic

        or use a proxy server, by Googling : Proxy PRX :to pull up a list
        I use something like proxy-me.nl

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        • Teddy Bear says:

          Using Chrome – there are a couple of free extensions that can be used that might help.
          Hide My Ass Proxy and AdBlock Plus.
          For Firefox there is uBlock Origin which has good reviews.

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        • MartinW says:

          Thank you, both StewGreen and Teddy Bear. I’m most grateful, and will follow up these leads tomorrow. It will be good to be able to read UK and US Breitbart without hindrance!

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  15. gaxvil says:

    R4 Paddy O’Connell – Single mother on benefits they interviewed 10 years ago – now has 3 kids somehow?
    Is the £220 in weekly benefits okay asks Paddy. Yes we can live quite comfortably, rent free. She would like to get back to midwifery but the Job Centre isn’t helpful.
    I guess she’s not heard of the internet or the telephone. Although they’ve no light in the kithchen for 4 months, they did have a lamp but it broke!

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    • Deborahanother says:

      I thought the NHS was crying out for midwives. When rent/rates are paid for you I expect you can live very comfortably indeed.

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  16. gaxvil says:

    R4 Paddy O’Connell – Nice Christmas time story.:- Single mother on benefits they interviewed 10 years ago – now has 3 kids somehow?
    Is the £220 in weekly benefits okay asks Paddy. Yes, we can live quite comfortably, rent free. She would like to get back to midwifery but the Job Centre isn’t helpful.
    I guess she’s not heard of the internet or the telephone. Although they’ve had no light in the kithchen for 4 months, they did have a lamp but it broke – she is struggling on. She did have a breakdown which I imagine was when then they said she should seek part time work so now she qualifies for Sickness Benefit with no fear of having to work – BINGO!

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    • AsISeeIt says:

      ‘She would like to get back to midwifery’

      ‘now has 3 kids somehow?’

      If we accept she has trained for midwifery, one would have thought she had found out what causes pregnancy?

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    • quisquose says:

      “She would like to get back to midwifery but the Job Centre isn’t helpful.”

      And I would like to be a Premier League footballer, but my local team isn’t helpful.

      My daughter briefly looked at Midwifery, but realised she would not get the 3 A grades required at “A” level to get on the degree course such was the demand. At Manchester University we were told that there was about 400 applications for each place.

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  17. gaxvil says:

    Sorry I also posted the draft but that we still get fed this crap really winds me up.

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  18. Guest Who says:

    Nice bit of boomerang one degree of separation RT work by the BBC here.

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    • SupportOurLefty says:

      Wow, the irony of the Labour Party [Kinnock-style emphasis here] – the Labour Party – complaining about gerrymandering!

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      • Grant says:

        Support,

        You couldn’t make it up. But lefties don’t do humour or irony. They just don’t get it.

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  19. SupportOurLefty says:

    Friends! My now-traditional Sunday roundup of my best Tweets [Ha! – J.C.] is now – literally – available.

    It, naturally, includes Tweets about the Progressive Left triumph in the Sleaford byelection, where Labour managed to comfortably beat the Lincolshire Independent candidate in to fifth place.

    https://supportourjeremy.wordpress.com/2016/12/11/leftys-sunday-selection-of-greatest-tweets-pull-the-other-one-lefty-j-c-what-other-one-jeremy-i-do-hope-youre-not-being-literally-smutty-especially-as-you-have-written-this-in-my-blog/

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  20. gaxvil says:

    Listening to the BBC I’m confused as to who I’m supposed to hate and fear?
    Is it Trump, Russia or Trump and Russia?

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    • Techno says:

      The Western media can’t believe that Trump won, so they are on a mission to discover how the Trump voters were “misled”.

      First, they were fed fake news, now it is because they were deceived by a conspiracy between Trump and the Russians.

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      • gaxvil says:

        Techno, “The Western media can’t believe that Trump won”. Again, I’m confused since journo’s, especially our BBC, are so much betterer educated and informed than wot I am so why their collective consternation?

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        • Grant says:

          The can’t understand how the, mainly left-wing, MSM appear to have failed to influence the Brexit vote and the Trump vote. Maybe they are not as powerful as they think.

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      • Rick Bradford says:

        Yes, they seem to think they can take a mulligan on Brexit or Trump without anyone noticing.

        The quicker they realise that it’s not going to happen, that Mummy isn’t going to make it right , the better for everyone.

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  21. StewGreen says:

    Things BBC forget to report
    Compare the last 24 hours headlines on BreitbartLondon Vs BBC :

    Albanian Migrant On The Run After Double-Stabbing Murder
    http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/12/11/albanian-migrant-murders-polish-man-vienna-street/

    Migrant Terror Suspect Used Amazon Gift Cards To Purchase Bomb Components –
    http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/12/11/terror-suspect-used-amazon-gift-cards-purchase-bomb-components/

    Merkel’s Migrant Policies Divide Germany, Majority Fear Criminal Migrants http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/12/11/majority-germans-fear-criminal-migrants/

    Italy Still Without Government after Renzi Resignation http://bit.ly/2hgxnPK

    Five Killed in Blast as Bulgaria Gas Train Derails http://bit.ly/2gMtAWQ

    400 Migrants Storm Spanish Enclave in North Africa http://bit.ly/2gM6cJm

    DELINGPOLE: The One Where James Smokes Weed with Dave http://bit.ly/2hgfS20

    Turkey Accused of ‘Dissolving’ Camps as Migrants Flood Greece http://bit.ly/2hiFau8

    Bavaria Passes Law Calling for Migrants to Embrace ‘Dominant’ Culture http://bit.ly/2gM8t70

    Remain Campaigners Bypass UK Courts in Fresh Attempt to Frustrate Brexit http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/12/10/remain-campaigners-bypass-uk-courts-fresh-attempt-frustrate-brexit/

    ‘It’s in Man’s Nature’, Says Muslim Who Founded Polygamy Website http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/12/10/mans-nature-polygamous-says-muslim-founded-secondwife-website/

    EU To Allow Countries To Start Returning Migrants To Greece In March http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/12/10/eu-allow-countries-start-returning-migrants-greece-march/

    Far-Left Bust Up: Peter Tatchell Storms Jeremy Corbyn Speech http://bit.ly/2gLLOrG

    German Lawmakers Call for Probe on Imams Suspected of Spying for Turkey http://bit.ly/2gLHvwx

    Murdoch Makes Second Takeover Tilt at Broadcaster Sky http://bit.ly/2gLJq4i

    10 Years after Joining EU, Euroscepticism Growing in Romania http://bit.ly/2h8Zwrr

    Policeman Appeals Conviction of Trading Sex for Migrant Residency Permit http://bit.ly/2h8VWh1

    LISTEN: Award Winning Think Tank Boss Says Political Tide Turning Against Establishment After Brexit, Trump http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/12/09/think-tank-establishment-brexit-trump/

    VIDEO: Hate Preacher Who Labeled Queen ‘Terrorist’ Launches Anti-Police YouTube Channel http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/12/09/video-hate-preacher-labeled-queen-terrorist-launches-anti-police-youtube-channel/

       10 likes

  22. BRISSLES says:

    No light in the kitchen ?? is she on course for baby no.4 then ?

       14 likes

  23. EnglandExpects says:

    BBC political messages this morning:-

    ‘Tory party split down the middle .’
    Angst about why Labour us not doing better.

    We’ve had Abbot, Toynbee of Tuscany, Livingstone all given prime BBC time.
    Another sackful of votes lost by Labour.

       41 likes

    • Wild Bill says:

      Abbot on Vine was asked a straight question along the lines of “are Labour in favour of Brexit, yes or no?”,but of course she couldn’t give a straight answer, as spokesperson for the Labour party.

         25 likes

      • Guest Who says:

        One to add to that special list of BBC terminology…

        The impartial BBC editor/presenter sees the policy and personnel cluster FUBAR that is HM’s disloyal kindergarden as ‘its more nuanced position’.

           14 likes

        • Grant says:

          Guest,

          What the hell does Nick mean by that ?

             2 likes

        • embolden says:

          Labours “nuanced position” is stay in the single market, accept free movement i.e. open door immigration (as defined by the EU) and continue to contribute funds to the EU for the privilege of buying and selling into the market, subscribe to the social chapter and keep the EU courts as final court of appeal….

          In other words….. Brexit means Remain.

             28 likes

        • Guest Who says:

          Nick ‘views my own/just joking/we have OFCOM in our pocket’ Robbo, answers his own call:

          Impartially, natch

             8 likes

          • Grant says:

            Guest,

            Did Nick disclose how much his clothes expense account is with the BBC ?

               8 likes

            • Guest Who says:

              No idea. Must be huge as he is a style icon.

              Wearing headphones front to back rather than across ways shows how edgy he is.

                 3 likes

  24. G says:

    Life in the Netherlands for those who comment on Islam –
    https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/9537/dutch-death-spiral

       14 likes

    • Dave S says:

      Not surprised really. The Netherlands has form .WW2 did not show the Dutch authorities in a good light. A certain measure of efficiency in disposing of their Jewish population.

         5 likes

  25. taffman says:

    “Tim Farron, leader of the Liberal Democrats, has described the new slogan as “jingoistic claptrap”.
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-38275973
    I am afraid my politeness will not allow me to express my thoughts on Tim Farron.
    Nevertheless my thoughts on Al Beeb are well known 😉

       20 likes

    • Guest Who says:

      And my politeness means any thoughts on BBC one degree of separation editorial advocacy poorly disguised as a daft ‘question’ are best left uncommitted to tablet.

         9 likes

    • embolden says:

      It’s not jingoism to act upon a democratic vote to regain Britains national independence. It is jingoistic to aggressively threaten dire economic consequences to Britain as the price for regaining its independence.

      Farron and his ilk are nothing but starry blue flag waving, EU jingoists.

         26 likes

      • Wild Bill says:

        Farron and the rest of the Limp Dems are desperate because they will soon be out of a job.

           15 likes

  26. Mr.Golightly says:

    One of the most shocking statements made on BBC QT this week came from Nigel Farage, who said that come 2019 we were likely to “end up with a Norway type deal”. To my mind that’s not Brexit at all. James Delingpole and Isabel Oakeshott also discuss the prospects for a “Brexit means Brexit” http://www.podcastone.com/pg/jsp/program/episode.jsp?programID=968&pid=1694348 Listen from 25:20 to 38.00 mins for Oakeshott’s very insightful thoughts on this.

    Delingpole says “we won the battle but we’re about to lose the war”. Oakeshott replies that “In the last week to ten days I have sensed a creeping unease amongst Brexiteers as to whether this is going to work out”. She goes on to explain that a deliberately created vacuum, an information gap, has given very organised and very empowered opponents of Brexit (Blair, Major, Clegg etc) time to derail it. Delingpole agrees saying “an entrenched establishment is hijacking the whole process”.

    Farage, Oakeshott and Delingpole are all correct. We are being sold down the river by the ovewhelmingly pro-EU elites. This may not end well.

    And here’s a bit of wishful thinking by Delingpole –

    “Somewhere right now in a parallel universe, Andrea Leadsom, not Theresa May, is prime minister of Britain; Article 50 has long since been triggered; Michael Gove is in the cabinet; Nigel Farage is in the Lords – and a member of the government; there’s none of this Communistic nonsense about citizen pay monitors on the board of big companies; government waste is being slashed; Mark Carney has been sent back to Canada with his tail between his legs; there’s an extralicious Special Relationship forming with President-Elect Trump; and there’s no talk of Hard Brexit or Soft Brexit or even Red White and Blue Brexit because it’s not up for debate – basically we’re out and if the Euroweenies don’t want to trade with us on reasonable terms then sod ’em, we’ve got bigger better places to go.”

    http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/12/10/delingpole-james-smokes-weed-dave-gets-told-off-talking-like-trump/

       37 likes

  27. Grant says:

    BBC Website reports the bombing of a Coptic church in Egypt. No hint of who may be responsible.

       18 likes

    • Mr.Golightly says:

      Grant. I suspect it might be those ‘Men’ again.

         16 likes

    • Mr.Golightly says:

      While you’re on the line as it were. I’ve just spent a fabulous time north of the border, in Edinburgh. Not your patch exactly I know (more Roland Deschain’s area I think). However, I returned home to East Anglia clutching one bottle of Lagavulin 16 yr old and one bottle of Ardbeg Uigeadail. My God Grant! I’ve never tasted anything more delicious.

         5 likes

      • Grant says:

        Mr G,

        I lived in Edinburgh for many years and was a founder member of the Scotch Malt Whisky Society. In Lagavulin and Ardbeg you have chosen 2 of the very finest. Slainte !

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        • Mr.Golightly says:

          Grant. Do dheagh shlainte!

             2 likes

          • Grant says:

            Mr G,

            If this site was run by the Scottish Executive, they would insist on a Gaelic translation. But I suspect that the numbers of real Gaelic speakers are in decline, sadly. The Executive would include you as Gaelic speaker to boost numbers. My late father was , but I am not.

               4 likes

    • Wild Bill says:

      Probably blame the Kurds again.

         4 likes

  28. Charlatans says:

    Syrian – BBC named and shamed for inadequate, fake reporting along with Guardian, New York times and others.

    See 3 mins into this fantastic realistic appraisal of the Syrian conflict.

       36 likes

    • nogginator says:

      BBC – Syria conflict: Aleppo “rebels”, ‘stem army advance’
      The “Rebels” holding out in the Syrian city of Aleppo say they have halted, for now, the government advance into the few areas still under their control.
      Ibrahim Abu al-Leith, a spokesman for the White Helmets rescue force inside Aleppo, described the bombardment as “unreal”.
      “The streets are full of people under the rubble,” he told AFP news agency. “They are dying because we can’t get them out.”

      All the lies, half the story … all the time

      SCRAP THE BBC!

         23 likes

    • nogginator says:

      BBC – Syria conflict: Aleppo “rebels”, ‘stem army advance’
      The “Rebels” holding out in the Syrian city of Aleppo say they have halted, for now, the government advance into the few areas still under their control.
      Ibrahim Abu al-Leith, a spokesman for the White Helmets rescue force inside Aleppo, described the bombardment as “unreal”.
      “The streets are full of people under the rubble,” he told AFP news agency. “They are dying because we can’t get them out.”

      All the lies, half the story … all the time

      SCRAP THE BBC!

         10 likes

    • nogginator says:

      BBC – Syria conflict: Aleppo “rebels”, ‘stem army advance’
      The “Rebels” holding out in the Syrian city of Aleppo say they have halted, for now, the government advance into the few areas still under their control.
      Ibrahim Abu al-Leith, a spokesman for the White Helmets rescue force inside Aleppo, described the bombardment as “unreal”.
      “The streets are full of people under the rubble,” he told AFP news agency. “They are dying because we can’t get them out.”

      All the lies, half the story … all the time

      SCRAP THE BBC!

         7 likes

    • nogginator says:

      BBC – Syria conflict: Aleppo “rebels”, ‘stem army advance’
      The “Rebels” holding out in the Syrian city of Aleppo say they have halted, for now, the government advance into the few areas still under their control.
      Ibrahim Abu al-Leith, a spokesman for the White Helmets rescue force inside Aleppo, described the bombardment as “unreal”.
      “The streets are full of people under the rubble,” he told AFP news agency. “They are dying because we can’t get them out.”

      All the lies, half the story … all the time

      SCRAP THE BBC!

         4 likes

    • nogginator says:

      BBC – Syria conflict: Aleppo “rebels”, ‘stem army advance’
      The “Rebels” holding out in the Syrian city of Aleppo say they have halted, for now, the government advance into the few areas still under their control.
      Ibrahim Abu al-Leith, a spokesman for the White Helmets rescue force inside Aleppo, described the bombardment as “unreal”.
      “The streets are full of people under the rubble,” he told AFP news agency. “They are dying because we can’t get them out.”

      All the lies, half the story … all the time

      SCRAP THE BBC!

         11 likes

    • Grant says:

      Charlatans,

      Wow ! That is some feisty lady ? Why can’t we have more of them in the UK ? Love the way she says that the BBC et al are telling the opposite of the truth. I think one problem for the BBC is that when Arabs are killing Arabs, muslims killing muslims, the BBC do not know what side to take. So much easier if Arab muslims are killing Israelis.

         31 likes

      • Grant says:

        I would love to see just one, useless, cowardly, lying BBC scumbag try to refute what Eva is saying. The BBC always support evil and in my book that makes the BBC itself evil.

           29 likes

    • Invicta 1066 says:

      Thank you so much for that link. What a wonderfully erudite and informed lady; and not afraid to call out the BBC and the Guardian for their false reporting.

         14 likes

      • oldcrone says:

        Thank you Charlatans for that link!

        Please everyone do listen to the full report by this woman.(18 mins but worth every minute of your lifespan) This is journalism .!!!!! . or what it is purported to be. The BBC and the MSM should be ashamed as this listen to this woman. The questioner asks her to back up her claims …. this woman speaks from the heart and experience. Media … weasel words and lies!!!!

           5 likes

  29. G says:

    Is it my imagination or there has been a massively accelerated number of Muslim atrocities perpetrated against Western ideals and values in more locations around the World just recently? The BBC saw fit to broadcast the one in Turkey where 23 were murdered but, to my knowledge they did not consider worthy of reporting that 25 were murdered in St Mark’s Cathedral, the Orthodox Christian church in Cairo. Presumably, it works on the basis that Muslims murdering Muslims in Turkey is ok to broadcast whereas, news of Muslims killing Christians should be restricted in case the Licence Fee payer deduced that Muslims kill Christians. Now that would be odd wouldn’t it? It certainly would not accord with the illusion maintained by the BBC that Islam is a religion of peace. Thank goodness for other sources of proper news. If we didn’t have that, we would all continue to think that Islam is ‘warm and wonderful’ and no threat to anyone.
    Read the news the BBC did not attribute any importance to –
    https://www.jihadwatch.org/2016/12/egypt-muslims-bomb-st-marks-coptic-orthodox-cathedral-in-cairo-murdering-dozens

       28 likes

  30. Grant says:

    G,

    Yes , muslims killing muslims presents a problem for the small minds of Beeboids. In the case of the istanbul bomb, the evidence seems that it is Kurdish terrorists, call them PKK, call them PAK or whatever. The BBC has always supported PKK but they also support Erdogan against the secular Ataturk people. The problem for Beeboids is that the world is too complicated for their simple minds to comprehend .

       27 likes

  31. Grant says:

    In the Commons vote last week on the Government’s timetable for Brexit, the only Tory MP who voted against the Government was the increasing ridiculous Kenneth Clarke. So whose opinions do the BBC give prominence to on the website ? Bias ? What bias ?

       26 likes

    • Beltane says:

      I’m sure I remember a TV leadership debate, years ago, between our Ken and William Hague where the portly member for wherever got very testy very rapidly. Not really cabinet material, not never, but he has allowed his own shortcomings to influence his decision making ever since. Very probably a font of wisdom on malts and a good cigar, but not much else.

         13 likes

  32. G says:

    “Bend it, bend it, just a little more
    Without you, baby, I’m so insecure
    But you can make me feel that I am sure
    I’ve got a sickness only you can cure
    So just relax, there’s stacks of time, but honey
    Please don’t tease me – try to please me”. – One of the lyrical parts of, ‘Bend it’ by Dave, Dee, Dozy, Beaky, Mick and Tich.
    Heard being hummed by a BBC News Editor whilst he stirs the boiling news cauldron?…………

       10 likes

  33. Thoughtful says:

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4021158/Ex-BBC-chief-says-Theresa-block-Murdoch-s-bid-Sky-City-revolt-grows-18-5bn-deal.html

    BBC trying to block Murdoch taking over Sky because it fears a FOX news type output.

    The comments are very telling:

    The BBC can only succeed in polluting the minds of the UK viewing public with its pernicious marxist effluence, if it has no competition. So of course it tantrums at anyone that threatens its, near monopoly, sized portion of the pie.

    If the BBC are against it, it’s probably a good thing.

    The BBC is a biased Marxist leftwing news agency disproportionately funded by a law enforced tax. They are the last ones to preach.

    The UK needs a more unbiased right of centre news channel. Our MSM is in danger of becoming just like the American MSM, totally bias, not objective and politicised.

    What the hell would a BBC chief – chief of the luvvie latte brigade – know about being a ‘fit and proper person’?

    We want a fit and proper person test for the BBC.

       37 likes

    • Guest Who says:

      When the Mail and BBC are in sync, it is time to check under the hood.

      “called on Prime Minister Theresa May to refer the bid to Ofcom”

      Add Ed to the triumvirate and send it straight to the breaker’s.

         13 likes

    • Beltane says:

      All valid comment Thoughtful, but never lose sight of the fact that the overwhelming majority of the population, if they read a newspaper at all, read the Sun and Mail and the same people watch ITV almost exclusively – those that don’t are mind-numbed by Andre Rieu on Sky.
      The popular belief is that many are swayed by BBC propaganda, but using politically biased programmes as a reflection of Guardian circulation, the actual influence is minimal. The plain truth is that most simply don’t give a toss – but even so they still see UKIP as their salvation.

         18 likes

    • gaxvil says:

      And a ‘Conducive with the public good’ test? That’s, ‘THE PUBLIC’ not elites, lefties, luvvies and immigrants.

         8 likes

  34. Thoughtful says:

    Europe on the brink: Streets ‘will become war zones’ as continent descends into crisis

    European leaders are said to be preparing for mass civil unrest as multiple catastrophic problems engulf the continent.

    It comes after months of warnings from experts – including top military brasses – that massive economic issues, mass immigration, and terrorism will lead to a full-scale crisis.

    They have predicted this will affect the entire continent, eventually leading to civil war on the streets.

    http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/568976/europe-civil-war-islam-france-italy-referendum-eurozone-crisis-far-right-movement

       15 likes

    • MartinW says:

      And so the manipulators of Saudi Arabia and Qatar will have achieved the second of their objectives after four decades of their stealthy, silent, non-combative jihad.
      On the subject of international terrorism, I am currently listening to a very sobering speech by Sen. Mike Lee at a recent Heritage ‘Crossroads’ Summit http://www.texaspolicy.com/multimedia/page/live-stream [the first speech of the session]

         11 likes

    • Old Goat says:

      It’s about time something kicked off – there has to be a limit to this elite madness. Shame the people aren’t armed, but I suppose their emasculation was part of the grand plan.

         9 likes

    • gaxvil says:

      And it’s not something you can just throw money at to solve with taxes here and subsidies there.

         5 likes

  35. Thoughtful says:

    This is just hilarious, she even manages to piss Andrew Marr off !

       6 likes

    • Grant says:

      Marr, Diane has “known and worked with Corbyn for a very long time “. LOL ! What kind of work is that , Andy ?

         16 likes

      • Al Shubtill says:

        I would understand that to mean “known” in the biblical usage of the word.

           9 likes

      • Lobster says:

        Grant – Don’t even think about it if you value your sanity! Or your Sunday Lunch, come to think of it.

           9 likes

        • Grant says:

          Al and Lobbie,

          LOL !

          Without bragging, I have known a few real African girls in my time, but I would never lower my standards or standard to the lovely Diane.

          But she proves a truth . Human beings can put a man on the moon, but they cannot put a man on Diane Abbott.

             15 likes

  36. Thoughtful says:

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-4021278/PETER-HITCHENS-No-10-disaster-Minister-caught-telling-TRUTH.html

    Looks like Peter Hitchens is finally getting to the point with Saudi Arabia , he just needs to accept the fact that they are bribing Western politicians, rather than that they are so desperate to sell them weapons that they will do anything for them.

    Maybe the time is not yet quite right to come straight out with it, but I do have to confess to priming him with all this via Email !

       13 likes

    • Al Shubtill says:

      I used to rate Peter Hitchens but he is too wishy-washy these days, seemingly obsessed with marijuana legalization and attempting to explain away many of the “lone wolf” terrorist attacks as being due to the perpetrators (supposedly) being among its users; he is also far too weak on Islam generally, which is odd, as one would have been led to expect (from his writing) for him to subscribe to a much more assertive and muscular Christianity.

         12 likes

  37. Fol-de-rol says:

    On a lighter note, just had to watch the one-armed girl on Midlands Today weather. Have every sympathy for her but why does she swing her stump around, wearing a sleeveless summer top in the middle of December? Shefali (newsreader) has a tight fitting, figure hugging woolly sweater and then we cut to the main BBC weather man who is wearing a shirt, tie and jacket! Why not in a T-shirt with bare arms?

    Amputees are the new Black? Gatuitous voyerism of the disabled in my view. Next up, our nightly pre-watershed gay kiss to rub our homophobic noses in it.

       28 likes

    • Grant says:

      Fol,

      For the BBC , all these things are a form of pornography.

         7 likes

    • Rob in Cheshire says:

      I have to agree. I feel very sorry for anyone who has lost a limb, and I am happy that she has such a good job. But it does not make me a bad person to find the sight of an amputated stump unpleasant. There is no excuse for it, a long sleeve would hide it, and I can only conclude that I am being punished in some way by being forced to face her disability when I have no desire to.

      Typical left wing agitprop.

         25 likes

  38. Gillian?? says:

    Sorry to remind you all about the despair of watching parts of the Andrew Marr Show on iplayer.
    The Millhouse lookalike and Flabbott slot. I cannot believe that such a thicko as her can be an MP. She is so pathetic with her drivelling crap.
    She is an embarrassment – I am cancelling my TV Licence now as if this is the best they can muster I absolutely despair. Disgusting.

       27 likes

    • Thoughtful says:

      She is a senior Labour person, and it might be said that inviting her onto TV does absolutely nothing for Labours popularity with the electorate.

      Some might allege that amounts to a left wing bias !

         16 likes

      • Gillian?? says:

        The only lefts are champagne socialists. Not true left wingers. They’re Blairites – new Labour.
        I hate the distorted view of us Brits.
        I come from working class East End of London stock where people worked hard and paid their way as most of true grit Brits have done nationally.
        I’m sick to death of freeloader pathetic people that can’t string more than two words together and can’t get out of bed in the morning due to their tiredness. I reckon Flabbott could be of the same ilk.
        Sorry for the rant!

           36 likes

  39. Fol-de-rol says:

    Countryfile has just reminded us what they spend our licence fee on. After a piece on evicting council farm tenants (cos of the nasty Tory cuts) they then send presenters up to Scotland on the public purse to look at wild cats. This is one of their favourite jollies and this week they have found a wild cat, called it Jake and have placed straw bales in a derelict barn to give it something cosy to sleep on.

       21 likes

    • Old Goat says:

      So that’s where Tibbles went, I’ll get the car out, and go and pick him up…

         16 likes

    • JimS says:

      Tom ‘Disaster’ Heaps was doing the ‘green’ thing and recycling his old story about council farms. Surely if they were introduced in England, (but not Nothern Ireland), to solve a post-WW1 problem isn’t it possible that they are no longer needed? What is happening to the ones that are being sold? Wouldn’t it make more sense for young farmers to work as managers on big farms? As modern farming is so multi-faceted it seems a lot for a young graduate/farmer’s child to take on without gaining experience in a junior role. Why are councils making money anyway? They aren’t businesses. Why not close schools and convert them into offices to rent at high prices; income sink becomes income source!
      So many unanswered questions. Only one ‘Heapiean’ solution – more public money please!

         6 likes

  40. Fol-de-rol says:

    Countryfile Update.

    An outfit called Wild Cat Action is neutering cats because the threat to the wild cats is … INTER BREEDING.

    Oooh racists. This far right group are looking to promote genetically pure indigenous wild cats. I’m sure Nick Griffin said something similar on Questiontime a year or two back.

       26 likes

    • Rob in Cheshire says:

      So, like grey squirrels, is this a case where the indigenous population is being outbred by unwanted invading species? Odd how there is no debate that this is a bad thing when the MSM is talking about native British flora and fauna, but are silent when it is the actual British people to whom it is happening.

         31 likes

  41. All Lives Matter says:

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-38254946

    “Did Clinton win more votes than any white man in history?”

    Why are we still funding this prejudiced shite? Plus they’re still pushing the fallacy that Clinton ‘won’ the popular vote when this has not been verified, and probably never will be since it would prove how many illegals voted for Clinton and would give Trump the popular vote as well, along with probably a larger college victory.

       28 likes

    • Grant says:

      All,

      The BBC confused again. Racist and sexist as usual !

         10 likes

    • gaxvil says:

      All, “Did Clinton win more votes than any white man in history?”
      Well maybe, maybe not and was Obama the most useless, divisive, President for decades and do more harm than good and was he African American with strong Islamic leanings? Are the Clintons seriously corrupt and immoral?
      It’s yes, yes, yes, yes and yes to those questions.
      With no in depth analysis, hacking or hair splitting necessary.

         24 likes

      • Grant says:

        gax,

        The BBC have concerns about Trump’s finances and tax situation. But the BBC never ask these questions of the Clintons. That is strange. I would almost think the BBC is biased !

           25 likes

        • gaxvil says:

          Don’t forget the BBCs concern that Trump will be friends with Russia or start WW3 ………… or both.

             14 likes

        • Al Shubtill says:

          I don’t recall hearing al beebus ever giving any credit to him, for deciding to forego the presidential salary.

             18 likes

        • Wild Bill says:

          Did they ever check on Obama’s finances and tax situation?

             15 likes

    • Dover Sentry says:

      And the BBC are doing exactly the same with Brexit.

      The BBC continues the fight to Remain.
      The BBC continues the fight for Clinton.

      BBC Bias never ends.

         33 likes

    • StewGreen says:

      a PNN Production with BBC money
      …… Propaganda Not News

      What possible utility can it have to my Mum ?
      Cos she paid for it.

      I say it has zero utility
      ….. You can’t make assertions Popular Vote, cos there was No Popular vote , as the election wasn’t fought under that rule !

         10 likes

      • StewGreen says:

        And as for “more votes than any white man in history?”
        What a contrived statement.
        To be racist and only think about white politicians cos Indian presidents have won more votes.

           9 likes

        • StewGreen says:

          Oh 64m people ticked a box marked Hillary.
          But often that wasn’t so much an endorsement of her, but a vote against the Bogeyman the media made out Trump to be

             12 likes

          • Rob in Cheshire says:

            Trump won the Electoral College vote, and that is the only system which counts as a win.

            The popular vote would matter if that is how the President were elected, but it isn’t, so it doesn’t.

            There is just no point for a Republican to bother to vote in New York or California, so we will never know how many votes the Donald would have got under a popular vote system. He barely bothered to campaign there or spend any money there, because they will always go Democrat.

            It is simply a left wing plot to delegitimise the Trump win by floating the idea that he did not “really” win the election, when in fact he did win under the system the Constitution put in place. It is typical of the hard left agitprop we can expect from the Democrats and their MSM bitches.

               4 likes

    • Guest Who says:

      Ah, another BBC one degree of separation question as a statement headline.

      Next.

         3 likes

  42. Wild Bill says:

    Just watched This Week on i player, what exactly was Pete Doherty on for?
    What a state he is,Doherty is 37,Michael Portillo is 64 I think and seemed far more the fitter and healthier of the two.

       17 likes

    • Alicia Sinclair says:

      Because he has a new CD out Wild Bill.
      Think he was on Loose Ends last night on Radio 4 with Clive Anderson too.
      Just the kind of bad boy that the BBC like.No talent, but acts as a Dylan Thomas tribute act for them. Funnier than Russell Brand anyway,

         11 likes

    • Al Shubtill says:

      In an earlier time such creatures would have been pitied; despised or avoided, whereas now they are lauded; are enviable and desired; it is astonishing how far our society has fallen (is still falling).

         12 likes

  43. taffman says:

    “Plaid Cymru leader Leanne Wood has said placing curbs on immigration after Brexit could lead to “a real risk to some industries and places” in Wales.” ……….
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-38280118
    How completely out of touch with the people of Wales is this woman ?
    She is a classic example of ‘the tail wagging the dog’

       17 likes

  44. StewGreen says:

    8:45am BBCr2 On Clare Balding , Comedian and screenwriter Deborah Frances-White was able to name Jehovah’s Witness as a cult due to in practicing “shunning” ie if you leave the rest of your family is forbidden from speaking to you.

    But Clare cut her off after 3 mins.
    And LeftMob dream that the BBC should cover Islam more, but can you see how can you cover these religions without exposing their negatives.
    That’s probably why the BBC buries religion away on Sunday morning.

    With JWs the issue can be child abuse. I met a guy in Italy who was crying cos his family was shunning him, he explained that he’d tried to expose abuse but the Church had closed ranks and turned on him. I assured him I’d tell my BBC contacts. I assumed that they would get into investigative reporting, but they never got back to me or the guy. I guess in 2008 I still trusted the Beeb on every except Climate and Green issues.

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  45. AaronD says:

    You’re more likely to have walked on the moon than to have won a third Tour de France. Yet the man who achieved it this year doesn’t even make the BBC’s shortlist of SIXTEEN for their annual sporting achievement award. There are disabled equestriennes and lesbian hockey players aplenty, but the bloke who wins one of the toughest, most prestigious annual individual events in the world can go hang. I know this is old news by now, and I only found out via a question down the pub quiz, but it is absolutely astounding. It sums up the general state of the credibility of the BBC i.e. lost & gone forever.

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    • Mr.Golightly says:

      Sports Personality of The Year. It’s the perfect BBC vehicle for parading their politically correct credentials. Remember last year’s humiliation of Tyson Fury because of politically incorrect speech and behaviour. Remember how tw@t of the year Gary Lineker forced him to fumble through an apology. Remember how Clare Balding put on her serious face at the prospect of having a homophobe up for the award. SPOTY is X-Factor for the Cultural Marxists.

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      • AsISeeIt says:

        A couple of the more pertinent comments on this most redundant of prolonged BBC charades SPOTY come from non-BBC jounalists:

        “Three hours of clapping”

        “Achingly Politically Correct”

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    • Demon says:

      Now of course they are selected by quota. Must have the right number of females, paras, LGBTRHQIJCS* ones.

      *I couldn’t remember all the letters in this particular PC alphabet soup, so I guessed some. 😉

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    • embolden says:

      They detest Chris Froome, too Kenyan for them.

      Unlike Mohammed Farah, who’s as British as can be.

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      • Grant says:

        Like most contests on the BBC, Bake off, Strictly etc , it is rigged. doesn’t apply to mastermind, univesity challenge yet, or does it ?

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      • ToobiWan says:

        Mo wouldn’t stand out in a crowd in most of our towns and cities, E, whereas Chris would stand out like a sore thumb.

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  46. Mr.Golightly says:

    David Vance has got a twitter poll running at the moment – Who is the most loathsome Conservative MP? Nicky Morgan, Anna Soubry or Ken Clarke. It’s a tough choice. In the current context I would go for Soubry, but Clarke’s longevity and persistence swung it for me. I voted for Ken. Current standings – Nicky Morgan 9%. Anna Soubry 62%. Ken Clarke 29%.

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    • Demon says:

      I agree about Clarke, although Soubry is a strong candidate. What about Amber Rudd? Phil Hammond? I know he’s no longer an MP but Cameron should be included.

      However, there should be a poll for decent Conservative MPs, maybe not so many to choose from but to start with Jacob Rees-Mogg, Andrea Leadsom, Pritti Patel, Iain Duncan-Smith, David Davis, Liam Fox, Michael Gove, Peter Bone, Bill Cash. And bring back Esther McVeigh (give her a safe seat).

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      • G.W.F. says:

        For me, it is definitely the Dhimmi Prime Minister, Treezer the Appeaser

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      • Up2snuff says:

        I always thought Frank Field was a good conservative MP and he is in the Labour Party!

        At least he represents his constituents and speaks up for their best interests.

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  47. Guest Who says:

    Enjoy.

    https://milo.yiannopoulos.net/2016/12/carlson-vox-fake-news/

    There’s also a nice comment below about the BBC.

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  48. Guest Who says:

    BBC reading the national mood a treat, again…

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  49. embolden says:

    Lyse Doucet on Today, suggesting that the “rebel fighters” need to be given safe passage out of Aleppo “to keep families together”, otherwise their only choice will be “to fight to the death”.

    “Chief foreign correspondent” FFS.

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    • Demon says:

      Let them die so as to to decrease the amount of innocents being slaughtered by them.

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    • Grant says:

      So Doucet wants to save terrorists’ lives so that they can carry on killing. Which side is she on ? No need to answer that !

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    • Guest Who says:

      Things have changed a bit since Joseph did the decent thing, sadly taking the missus and brood along with.

      A real loss to the BBC recruiting team one is sure.

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