Mid-Week Open Thread

So Prince Charles thinks we are ‘forgetting to learn the lesson of the Holocaust’ in light of Trump’s immigration policy...this from a man who maintains close ties to Muslim fundamentalists, a major part of whose ideology is anti-Semitic and who fund that ideology across the world, including in the UK.

The same Charles who told us that Muslim  migrants to Europe were like Mary and Joseph and that Muhammed was merely a peace loving migrant himself…never mind he slaughtered the Jews and conquered and colonised so many countries imposing his oppressive ideology upon them.

Seems the only person who forgets the lessons of history is Charles himself.

And the BBC of course.

They maybe need a reminder….all yours on the new open thread…

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596 Responses to Mid-Week Open Thread

  1. peterthegreat says:

    Good old Milo stirring it up at Berkeley ‘university’. The beeb lapping it up, natch, as the leftie-liberals go ballistic with outrage.

    They shouldn’t be called hard left or soft left or far left, or liberal, they should be the Fascistic ‘liberal’-left, the Sanctimonious ‘liberal’-left, the Illiberal ‘liberal’-left. In fact we need a whole new lexicon, starting with a word that encapsulates that hideous cocktail of hyper-sensitivity, imagined victimhood, sanctimony, Puritanism, prissiness, entitlement and hysterical violent intolerance to alternative opinions.
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-38837142%5Bimg%5DGood old Milo stirring it up at Berkeley ‘university’. The beeb lapping it up, natch, as the leftie-liberals go ballistic with outrage. They shouldn’t be called hard left or soft left or far left, or liberal, they should be the Fascistic ‘liberal’-left, the Sanctimonious ‘liberal’-left, the Illiberal ‘liberal’-left. In fact we need a whole new lexicon, starting with a word that encapsulates that hideous cocktail of hyper-sensitivity, imagined victimhood, sanctimony, Puritanism, prissiness, entitlement and hysterical violent intolerance to alternative opinions. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-38837142%5B/img%5D

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  2. peterthegreat says:

    Sorry, made a mess of Milo post. How to embed or paste a bbc video, anyone?

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  3. Thoughtful says:

    Nice to know that there are news outlets which are a great deal more impartial than the BBC, and this time it’s reuters, a press outlet which the BBC certainly gets a news feed from:

    http://www.reuters.com/article/us-visa-ban-commentary-idUSKBN15G4T0

    Commentary: Trump’s visa ban isn’t as new as you think

    For those who say “This is not who we are,” look again. Sadly, it’s who we’ve always been.

    President Donald Trump’s executive order banning travelers and refugees from seven predominantly Muslim countries is only the latest twist of dark threads that have long been present in America. The executive order is not unprecedented. It is evolutionary.

    The countries affected by Trump’s executive order – Iran, Iraq, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, Syria, and Yemen – have been singled out under American immigration law since the days following 9/11

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  4. Lucy Pevensey says:

    Peter “Sorry, made a mess of Milo post. How to embed or paste a bbc video, anyone?”

    Like This?

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  5. ID says:

    The German BBCs are in hyperhissyfit mode about Trump’s Anti-EU Pro-Brexit stance. “We are on the naughty step because of our handling of the British”
    Their Foreign Minister Siegmar “chubby cheeks” Gabriel is off to “what some now regard as an enemy country”!!!! to stress the importance of Nato and to finger-wag about common values.
    Merkel the Mad is in Turkey performing anilinctus on Erdoğan. He wants some high-ranking putsch officiers who are seeking asylum in Greece back. He may well be sending another wave of enrichment on its way to Germany.
    Orban welcomes Putin in Budapest, accuses the west of being anti-Russian and calls for sanctions to be lifted.
    Chatshows full of pompous Anti-Trump leftists.
    They simply cannot cope with the speed at which Trump introduces new measures.
    A Le Pen or Wilders victory would push them right over the edge.

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  6. Amounderness Lad says:

    Yes Mary, Joseph and Jesus went to Egypt but only for a short time and with no intention of remaining there, and two adults and a child, whoever they were, bears absolutely no comparison whatsoever to an influx of a third of a million people every year for year after year after year with no end in sight.

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    • engineerdownunder says:

      Don’t be taken in by the BBC/Govt figure of NET immigration.

      Actual immigration, even on the Govts understated figures, is 650,000 per annum.

      The fact that 300,000 of the more affluent are fleeing every year is just as bad.

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      • Grant says:

        engineer,

        I would not believe Government or Civil Service figures on anything without some kind of independent verification. They are not to be trusted.

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  7. Tothepoint says:

    It’s 10pm. Its time for the Islamic Al Beeb sermon to the believers, and the Imam today is George ‘unnaturally smug and self-opinionated’ Allah-giah.

    Yawn….it’s propaganda overload again, as the lunatics just cannot give it a rest. Telling, the only point the deviants wanted the sheeple to know from Saviour Trumps ‘National Prayer Breakfast Speech’ was the Arnold being rekt by the Donald. ..but of course the fake news was to make it look like Arnold won the Shitter battle…he didn’t. Trump was once again utterly brilliant

    Trump is on fire! It’s laughable how the Islamic Al Beeb have to sensor all the wonderful detail of a fantastic speech for their fake news story.

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    • ToobiWan says:

      I noticed that George Alagiah actually used the Don’s official title in his intro, TtP, that was a first!
      Maybe someone has read the complaint I made yesterday.

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    • Dystopian says:

      Thank you for the video clip “Tothepoint”.
      This shows the president as the total opposite of the person as whom he is being portrayed by the MSM.
      He talks about the rights and freedoms to practice ALL religions and even mentions the persecution of peace loving Muslims by ISIS but the BBC do not choose to show that do they!

      I find myself asking who really are the evil ones, the monsters and it certainly isn’t the President, of that I am certain.

      The BBC need to be stopped.
      The sheeple need to open their eyes and see the truth.

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    • gaxvil says:

      Hell, you’d be smug if you came from nowhere to be POTUS in just 18 months!
      George, you are, like your MSM colleagues, a bottom feeding, trash-bag whore.

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  8. Sluff says:

    Its the 10 pm bBBC1 news and with all that’s going on in the world what do we get?

    A feature on Sonya Boyce. No, me neither. But guess what? She is a black ‘artist’ focussing on black and equality issues.

    So as usual, absolutely no agenda whatever.

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  9. PayNoPropagandaTax says:

    The Nazis: A Warning From History.

    Now, I wonder why they are repeating this. Surely not because of Trump?

    We are going to get 8 years of this from the snowflakes.

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    • StewGreen says:

      And the Julian of Norwich prog before that
      #EveryDaySexism cos the presenter immediately portrayd women as victims.
      “Women never had any power in the church”
      I disagree actually Lady Godiva ran the rebuilt Coventry Priory for years. Theres Eleanor of Lincoln and more

      Then at the end of prog she contradicted herself by speaking of another churchwoman writer

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      • engineerdownunder says:

        Nah no point trying to use historical facts, it’s become a snowflake article of faith that the whole of human history has been mysogynist. Bxxl of course.

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    • embolden says:

      The Nazis: A warning from history: It may be a coincidence, but I`ve just read a book review of Laurence Rees`s new study of the Holocaust, and since he was involved in producing “a warning from history” there may be a connection?

      BTW “a warning from history” featured in the Daily Mails photo of the “extensive collection of Nazi literature” found in Thomas Mairs house, so be careful about buying the box set.

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  10. ToobiWan says:

    “Unbiased” QT, five on the panel and four admitted to voting remain in the referendum.
    Some German bint in the audience dripping about how her life has been turned upside down, since the referendum and how we will never get a better deal from the one we “enjoy” at present.

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    • Tabs says:

      The German lady also said she has “lost her identity” since the brexit vote.

      Seriously some people need to get a grip on life and stop pretending to be a victim of everything.

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    • engineerdownunder says:

      Well she can always return to EU Central, I mean Germany. It’s an affluent civilised country, not at all like those muslim-dominated failed states that the USA has identified is it?
      …… Is it?

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    • Grant says:

      Toobi,

      She can just piss off back to Germany and good riddance. By the way, I had completely forgotten last night was QT. Shows how irrelevant it has become.

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    • Guest Who says:

      Not Mrs. Farage one is guessing, as the BBC would have screened her out?

      Not in a Trumpist way, you understand.

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  11. Sluff says:

    Off topic, but Phil Shiner has been struck off, or whatever the term is, from being a lawyer, following the exposure of his actions trying to get British soldiers convicted of war crimes based on false allegations and ambulance chasing.
    Question. Why has he not been arrested?
    Is there not a fraud investigation begging to be carried out? Where are the Police on that one?
    How about suing the guy and getting back some of the millions of taxpayers money wasted investigating these ridiculous trumped up charges against some of the bravest young people we are ever likely to meet?

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    • Sir_Arthur_Strebe-Grebling says:

      Dear Sluff, There is so much BBC bias that it is impossible to keep up with everything on this site, but there was a series of posts about Phil Shyster on the previous page of this thread, starting about 1 o’clock.

      I think you’ll enjoy some of them.

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    • StewGreen says:

      It’s normal to let such legal procedures play first then police afterwards as there is no immediate public danger.

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  12. StewGreen says:

    Notice how the Dems have a propaganda trick of framing every thing Trump does with extreme and hysterical framing
    “Muslim Ban”
    “Narcissist, racist, self confessed sex pest”
    “set to introduce torture”

    Yet of instead of challenging those framings the BBC just run with them.

    eg Trump’s immigration controls are labelled as “bans on mainly Muslim countries ”

    or “The Trump administration is to introduce torture”

    Yet much softer framing is used when it came to Obama or Bill or Hillary sex issues etc

    It’s that obvious
    Look what they did with Fracking
    … no science against it, doesn’t appear on any death certificates or $million court awards against it.
    Yet by going along with framing as “controversial” the BBC has made a self fulfilling prophecy.

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  13. StewGreen says:

    Next week “Channel 4News is running a whole week on FakeNews”
    No change there then.

    Then 8pm Monday C4 have a new comedy panel show The FakeNews show

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  14. taffman says:

    What do think of the Brexit paper , There is a HYS running on it now http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-38836906

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  15. seismicboy says:

    Why aren’t we gene editing people to be my size?
    Here’s the dross of the week front-runner. A vertically challenged person or dwarf has suggested that we genetically modify future generations to be the same size as her – to alleviate global warming.
    It’s a double box-ticker for the bbc.
    Yes, we are paying for this sh!t.

       21 likes

    • Guest Who says:

      The bbc is, as we speak, interviewing for the new position of Oompa Loompa Editor,

      Internally of course.

      Apparently.

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  16. Sluff says:

    Hot news on bBBC breakfast programme.
    As a result of the weather in Spain.

    It is getting very difficult to buy Aubergines.

    Of great interest no doubt to many BBC managers and news editors, residents in the Islington set and Guardianistas everywhere.
    I nearly choked on my organic free range quinoa.

       25 likes

    • Grant says:

      Sluff,

      BBC too dim to realise that this may make people think that we should not be so dependent on food imports from the EU.

         19 likes

      • Dystopian says:

        Could stop subsidising the farmers and tell them to get off their backsides and grow something.

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        • Grant says:

          Dystopian,

          NZ abolished farm subsidies in 1984. Their farmers seem to be doing well. NZ lamb is cheaper here than British and, I think, tastes better. And, amazingly, NZ is not in the EU. How do they survive ?

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  17. Grant says:

    I doubt if the BBC have reported this yet, as they are always way behind the news, but I read that some in the EU want to block Ted Malloch’s appointment. If it happens, this gives Trump a great chance to say that he is not going to appoint one at all and the EU have to go through the US ambassador to the UK.

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  18. GCooper says:

    They like to say Americans don’t get irony but this morning’s Toady revealed a complete irony-free zone at the BBC!

    In a discussion with a former GCHQ director, the Beeboid (was it Robinson?) was banging on about how Russia exerts influence by use of trolls, RTE, fake news and the rest and how this could have affected elections.

    This from a broadcaster which has an agenda on the EU, ‘climate change’, ‘But Labour said’, ‘LGBT ishooz’ and race, about ten miles wide?!

    Mote, beam, eye…

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  19. Chilleden says:

    Great 8.10 interview on Toady programme about Russians trying to spread misinformation and disinformation to try and sway elections. Nick Robinson sounds horrified at the idea. The BBC would never spread disinformation to influence an election!

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    • engineerdownunder says:

      Was that the item that was introduced as being an interview with an expert on the Russian use of disinformation where the Beeboid straightaway linked it to “Trump”? Farcical again.
      We shouldn’t have to pay for this infantile propaganda.

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  20. taffman says:

    T B making a comeback in UK
    Al Beeb causes? homeless, drug addicts , …….
    Elephant in room ?

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    • G.W.F. says:

      taffman

      Got to try hard not to see the elephant. Er er…I know…T.B. is making a comeback due to climate change. Or….er er…Brexit.

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      • Sluff says:

        There are a lot of Brexit, Trump, and climate change issues in Tower Hamlets, according to the disease statistics.

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  21. Cranmer says:

    This is interesting – complaint against BBC by Barnabas Fund (for persecuted Christians) over misrepresentation of comments by Donald Trump:

    https://barnabasfund.org/news/Barnabas-Fund-challenges-BBC-to-correct-wholly-wrong-statement-on-Christian-refugees-in-the-USA?audience=GB

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    • Grant says:

      Cranmer,

      That is a classic example of the BBC broadcasting Fake News and then being totally unaccountable for it. The BBC are the World Leaders in Fake News.

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    • Dystopian says:

      Busted!

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  22. Grant says:

    http://www.breitbart.com. Tucker interviews Milo on the riot at Berkeley.

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  23. Peter Grimes says:

    ‘Un militaire de l’opération Sentinelle a ouvert le feu ce vendredi matin vers 9h45 au Carrousel du Louvre à Paris sur un homme qui voulait les agresser. A l’entrée de la galerie, un homme avec un sac à dos s’est approché des militaires, a sorti une machette et a voulu les agresser. L’un des soldats a fait feu. Dans la riposte, l’agresseur a été grièvement blessé. ‘

    Other sources are saying the (almost inevitable) Allahu Akhbar was shouted out.

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    • NameNotNumber says:

      This was quite clearly an attack set up by the Russian authorities who have callously exploited an unfortunate, mentally disturbed, lone wolf, right wing, Norwegian Christian. His face book page displays an unhealthy interest in Nigel Farage, Vladimir Putin and Adolf Hitler. After an extensive search by security police his identity card, proving all of the above, will be found under the seat of a lorry left in a nearby street. Luckily, the security services were completely aware that an attack was imminent but, unfortunately, his killer car accomplice made an audacious escape. We have to be thankful that an Islamic hero was able to save 15,000 art lovers found cringing in the museum basement. Earlier eye witness accounts that the attacker shouted ‘Allah Akbar’ have been discredited. Please disregard any fake news reports you may hear otherwise a storm, which has not yet been named, may come and take you away while you’re sleeping.

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  24. Englands Dreaming says:

    Always interesting how the Beeb reports or doesnt an item. If you wanted to find out about the Rotherham child sex abuse verdict its been well and truly buried on the website despite being fresh news. I only managed to locate it when I did a search for Rotherham!

    Men jailed for Rotherham child sexual abuse
    http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-south-yorkshire-38845332

    They did though tell us that two of the defendants shouted “Allahu Akbar” after sentencing, strange what these “men” say.

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    • Peter Grimes says:

      Unfucking believable.i hadn’t heard a word about this on the news!

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    • Peter Grimes says:

      Al Beeb’s Yorkshire’s news site has as its lead article alleged racist abuse of a Muslim councillor who was told to ‘go home’.

      Priorities right there then.

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      • Dystopian says:

        Maybe they were just telling him his tea was ready! Home being Bradford probably.

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  25. Thoughtful says:

    Breaking news

    Seems like a member of the RoP has attacked a soldier outside the Louvre in Paris screaming Alans snackbar.

    http://www.thelocal.fr/20170203/paris-louvre-soldier-opens-fire-on-man-armed-with-knife-near-louvre-museum-in-paris

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    • Tabs says:

      BBC have actually reported the news including the Alans snackbar shout
      http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-38853841

      Are the managers out of the office on an early lunch and this one slipped through the net?

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      • Dystopian says:

        Apparently there is a popular Indian restaurant in Bradford called Akbaars….what they are actually shouting is “ah luv Akbaars” in a northern “Ilkley bah ‘tat” accent.

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    • Tabs says:

      Last nights BBC Question Time had Nick Hewer quoting from someone else saying Trumps “Muslim ban” has turned Trump himself into the biggest recruitment Sergeant for ISIS/ISIL etc.
      http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b08d2cyv/question-time-02022017
      (starts at 6m30s)

      Seriously? Does he really believe this crap? If someone from the Middle East is refused entry into the USA for a holiday does that make them join ISIS?!? There is nothing else to do such as visit a different country? All those Muslim doctors, engineers and architects refused entry to the USA will now join ISIS and throw their careers away? Biggest load of Islam apologist shite I have ever heard in my life.

      I’ll give the BBC until noon to link the above French attacks to Trumps recent ban.

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      • Thoughtful says:

        The flip side of this, and this time with actual proof not conjecture is that Trump is the symptom of the Fascist Lefts love affair with Islam, as is the rise of every opposition group to Fascist limitless allowance of Muslim invasion by asylum seekers.

        Take a look at the rise of Le Penn, Wilders and many others who reject the Fascist narrative.

        There is on the other hand no evidence that Trumps very temporary Muslim ban will cause anyone to join a Jihadist group, and I doubt there ever will be.

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        • Dystopian says:

          Ah but it’s the right wing white “extremists” who are the fascists apparently!
          It must be true cos the BBC said so…. :$

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  26. Wild Bill says:

    A boost to financial markets since Donald Trump’s election has helped the UK economy, a central banker has said.

    Ben Broadbent, the deputy governor for monetary policy at the Bank of England, told the BBC that some of Mr Trump’s economic plans could help the UK.

    Mr Trump has promised to cut taxes and boost US infrastructure spending, but also erect trade barriers.
    Global markets were boosted by the so-called “Trump effect” after investors bet on Mr Trump’s policies of infrastructure spending and lower corporate taxation coming to fruition and boosting the US economy.

    That economic plan would probably help global growth, Mr Broadbent said.

    The US Dow Jones share index broke through the 20,000 point barrier in late January for the first time ever as investor confidence built.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-38845575

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  27. Lucy Pevensey says:

    I saw this for about half an hour on BBC Fakenews 24. No mention of Aloha Snackbar, while I sat there thinking
    “I wonder if his name was Mo or Abdul?”

    Look online & the Telegraph is reporting it as an Allah Ack attack.

    Mid-Week Open Thread

    Good to hear a soldier fighting back! Let’s hope they don’t harass him by bringing charges when it’s plain he was defending. And if he hadn’t acted, howmany others might have been hurt.

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    • Sluff says:

      Totally agree Lucy.
      Problem is, if it happened in this country, the soldier would need to do a risk assessment and probably have to get a legal opinion and then afterwards be suspended from duty while a full enquiry took place to make sure the Human Rights of the attacker were not violated, the latter supported by ambulance chasing lawyers using the legal aid system to fleece the taxpayer.
      Then we would get the peace demonstrations and Stop the War protests, with Corbyn at the front.
      Yep, our soldiers are bloody brave lads and sadly they need to be for far more reasons then the situations immediately in front of them. Such is the left liberal la la land we now have.

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