Tim Farron has claimed, to much incredularity[BBC aside…no reaction from Marr], that he is a ‘bit of a Eurosceptic’….because in 2008 he resigned from the LibDem frontbench when Clegg demanded they abstain from voting on a referendum on the EU Lisbon Treaty…the BBC puts it up in lights…
Tim Farron says ‘I’m a bit of a Eurosceptic’
…not sure why as the main thing of any import he said was that the LibDems would not form a coalition with any other party….[interesting that he mentions his new found Euroscepticism, why now?….could it be because the subject arose 5 days ago on someone’s Twitter feed….guess Tim himself forgot that he was a Eurosceptic and had to be reminded….]
He may have resigned but not because he opposed the Lisbon Treaty...he voted relentlessly for it...the only vote he opposed was an amendment that would give parliament a say on EU decisions…so much for his cheerleading for British democracy…..whilst of course voting yes to increase the EU Parliament’s power….
- On 21 Jan 2008: Tim Farron was absent for a vote on Lisbon Treaty — Second Reading Show full debate
- On 27 Feb 2008: Tim Farron was absent for a vote on Lisbon Treaty — Enshrine the Lisbon Treaty into UK law Show full debate
- On 3 Mar 2008: Tim Farron voted yes on Lisbon Treaty — Accept the changes of terminology in the Lisbon Treaty Show full debate
- On 3 Mar 2008: Tim Farron voted yes on Lisbon Treaty — Increase of powers of European Parliament Show full debate
- On 4 Mar 2008: Tim Farron voted no on Lisbon Treaty — Clause on ‘parliamentary control of decisions’ to remain in the Bill Show full debate
- On 5 Mar 2008: Tim Farron voted yes on Lisbon Treaty — Clause on ‘Commencement’ of the Bill should remain in the Bill
- On 11 Mar 2008: Tim Farron voted yes on Lisbon Treaty — Third Reading
Trouble is Farron didn’t resign in order to oppose the EU but because he had promised his constituency that they could have a vote, he makes absolutely no mention of his own views on the EU here….
Note how hard-core Remainder Farron, much as he ‘respects’ the people’s vote on Brexit but ignores it, also respected Clegg’s leadership…and totally ignored it.
And just because you vote to have a referendum doesn’t show you are a Eurosceptic….Clegg at the time wanted an in/out referendum…and was a committed Europhile as his leaflets made out in 2008…the LibDems would campaign to remain in the EU….
And here is Farron indeed telling us that he wants another referendum…..in order that the British people can vote to stop Brexit…the LibDems are the vehicle to provide that ‘democracy’ to take place…much like Erdogan’s democracy bus…you get off it when you get to the destination you want…so keep voting until we agree to stay in the EU and then…no more referendums…cheers Tim…..
It wouldn’t actually be a vote on the terms of any deal but a rerun of the in/out referendum…reject the deal and we stay in the EU…no renegotiation of the deal to improve it….
According to an amendment tabled by Liberal Democrat MPs including Tim Farron, a vote should be held with the question on the ballot paper asking voters if they support the new proposed agreement with the EU, or if they want the UK to remain a member of the EU.
Farron keeps insisting that the 2016 referendum didn’t give May the authority to take us out of the Single Market and that the People voted for ‘a blank sheet of paper’...and yet that’s just not true…they voted to come out of the EU…that was the question on the ballot paper…do you want to stay in the EU or leave? They voted to leave…and the ‘EU’ means all the EU…Farron is busily picking the bits he likes and insisting that the ‘People’ didn’t vote to ‘leave’ those bits. Not only a remarkable ability to read peoples’ minds but also a remarkable ability to torture logic….by Farron’s logic the vote to leave was not a vote to leave at all…because people did not have a list, a list that would be extraordinarily long, that spelt out every law, regulation, treaty and rule that brought the EU to life and made it real….we, by his logic, must explicitly approve or not every single EU law, infrastructure and institution if we want to vote on the EU….we can cherry pick our membership of the EU according to Farron, though the EU disagrees…they say if you’re out you’re out. Farron also ignores the very inconvenient fact that it was made quite clear by both sides in the referendum that a vote to leave meant leaving the Single Market.
More Farron logic…a massive vote for May would not be democratic.
More Farron logic as he accuses Andrew Neil of guessing what voters want having confidently told us that he himself knows….
Farron is talking out of his backside and spinning us a right old tale….but then again, as Cameron points out, the LibDems are renowned for dirty campaigning…..[why is Farron wrong in the video below?…check the recent post on the lies and hypocrisy of politicians who called Zac Goldsmith a racist Islamophobe]….
Farron is a real Eurosceptic just like Ted Heath and Donald Tusk! Unlike Euro-fanatics like Enoch Powell and Wedgy Benn. Stalin was pro-democracy and the Quakers pro-war. In Farron’s alternative universe the BBC is clearly right–wing.
The BBC are floundering as they look to give excessive airtime to anyone who opposes the government . We now lack an official opposition, which I would define as a party ( not a coalition) that is credible in terms of its policies , capabilities and potential to command a majority in the Commons. As a consequence we see far too many interviews with marginal players of limited ability and fantastical or hypocritical opinions e.g Farron, Leanne Wood, Caroline Lucas, who are all treated by the BBC as if they were a credible alternative government . Worst of all we have the Scot Nats with no role to play in the majority of the UK and who live in a vicious socialist fantasy world fuelled by barely concealed hatred of the English. It is only by referring to their hatred of England by using code such as Tories and Westminster that the Nats avoid revealing their racism in terms that would be illegal.
The BBC would love a ‘ progressive coalition ‘ against the conservatives but even Farron isn’t stupid enough to ally himself with the loonies and barely concealed racists that would be involved in such a coalition . Meanwhile, in order to garner as many votes as he can, Farron is lying about his attitude to the EU and the appalling Lisbon Treaty as pointed out above .
The BBBC is the official opposition to the Conservatives, and their spokesman is Gina Miller.
One of the ‘high-profile’ losers they have created is Prince Richard of Necker, as he has plonked himself in same category as the bloke who said all his jewellry was tat!
SpaceX have just successfully launched a satellite with their Falcon rocket and brought the first stage of the launcher back to earth, exactly as intended. I don’t suppose the far-left bbc have reported on it or shown any live coverage. It was very impressive.
Imagine that your only source of news was the BBC, the Grauniad and your friends, who only read those other two sources. Plus your facebook bubble. Then you take a narcissist and place them in a position where they might well be be the opposition leader. Jeremy Corbyn is a loon but at least you have to give him credit for a consistency in his position. Farron, like Clegg before him, will say absolutely anything if he thinks it’ll get him a 6-figure salary at some point.
I consider tiny tim farron and the lib-democrats in the same light as I consider the BBC pointless, irrelevant and no longer serving any useful purpose