WSJ Vs BBC

 

The Wall Street Journal tells us that Salman Abedi thought Muslims in Britain were ill-treated and that he became increasingly religious…

Abedi’s sister, Jomana Abedi, said her brother was kind and loving and
that she was surprised by what he did this week. She said she thought he
was driven by what he saw as injustices.

“I think he saw children—Muslim children—dying everywhere, and wanted
revenge. He saw the explosives America drops on children in Syria, and
he wanted revenge,” she said. “Whether he got that is between him and God.”

In May 2016, an 18-year-old friend of Salman Abedi’s, Abdul Wahab
Hafidah, a Briton of Libyan descent, died after being run down by a car
and then stabbed in Manchester. Six men and a 15-year-old boy are on
trial in a Manchester court this month charged with murder in connection
with the killing, which prosecutors have argued was gang-related. The
defendants deny wrongdoing.

Abedi viewed the attack as a hate crime, the family friend said, and
grew increasingly angry about what he considered ill-treatment of
Muslims in Britain. “I remember Salman at his funeral vowing revenge,”
the Abedi family friend said.

Abedi became increasingly religious, family members said, and interested
in extremist groups. A cousin, who declined to be named, said Abedi’s
parents worried he was headed toward violence.

Wonder where he got the idea that Muslims were ill-treated in Britain, one of the most Muslim friendly countries in the world apparently…and that is in comparison to ‘Muslim’ countries.

Contrast that with the BBC’s effort which misses out a couple of the crucial elements…his increasing devoutness and his antipathy towards Britain…..instead the BBC paints a picture of a concerned father trying to take his son away from bad influences…not Muslim extremists but gangs….

The BBC has been told by a Muslim community worker that members of the public called the police anti-terrorism hotline about Abedi’s extreme and violent views several years ago.

We don’t know how the police responded to these reported hotline calls – but we have also learnt that earlier this year, Abedi’s behaviour again raised concerns.

According to our sources, he told local people about the value of dying for a cause.

He also made hardline statements about suicide bombings and the conflict in Libya.

An Abedi family friend in Tripoli has told the BBC that Ramadan took his son out of the city fearing the “influence of gangsters and criminals.” Mr Abedi said he feared his son was becoming increasingly drawn into drugs and criminality after the death of one of his friends in nearby Moss Side.

 

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39 Responses to WSJ Vs BBC

  1. Jerry Owen says:

    Flicking between SKY and the BBC yesterday the narrative slowly changed from the horrific deaths of people to Muslims not supporting this action and indeed Muslims now suffering a backlash ( no evidence offered ) , the tragedy has already moved onto the poor suffering Muslims.
    An interviewer ( SKY ) walking down a majority Muslim market told us that everyone ‘without exception here ( how does he know this ?) condemns the action’, we saw three asked their views and they didn’t actually condemn it they ‘didn’t support it’ there was no anger or any kind of emotion equal to those of English people visibly crying in the street, why? A fourth man was asked the same question and went onto say that he had been accused of terrorism himself and we had to listen to his ‘poor Muslim’ diatribe about our Police, who were of course not there to defend themsleves.
    The media made much of Muslim leaders coming out in solidarity against this bombing. I counted about twenty of them on stage including other faiths, however when the camera panned round to the crowd we saw 90% plus were white!
    This is proof of course that the ‘community is united’ a word in big use now. In other words in BBC and SKY (la la) land the tragedy is over and we have all come together united as one … ‘……….’ ( expletive ) spare me this crap!
    My idea of a community united is seeing thousands of Muslims on the streets ( we do but they generally wave black flags ) shouting ‘not in our name’ or something similar. We need to see real numbers of them with real anger and emotion but it simply isn’t there, I draw one conclusion from this as I am sure others here do.

    If, as we are continually told that these murdering extremists do not represent Islam by our media and Muslims themselves, why is it deemed provocative to the Muslim community to round up those ‘knowns’ and intern them? Surely if they misrepresent Islam the majority peaceful Muslim community would welcome this action!

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    • NCBBC says:

      All these Muslims are playing from standard Jihad strategy.

      Jihad can only be waged by a rightfully appointed caliph. Hence the urgency by ISIS and other groups to establish a caliphate. When that happens, all Muslim will be able to wage war with a clear conscience.

      As there is no caliph, the only way that Jihad can be waged is as a defensive Jihad. This means that Muslims must claim that they are being persecuted. This is what we are seeing now.

      Go to every site possible and spread the message.

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    • ID says:

      The Today programme on R4 was deploying Lord Blair and the usual suspects to ply the licence payers with the usual Barretian obfuscation “If the latest muslim atrocity has claimed x lives, don’t worry y >>x fatalities are caused by road traffic accidents/electrocutions in the home/etc, so practically anything you can think of is worse than a muslim atrocity”. I don’t hear Lord Blair telling the Jewish community “I don’t know why you Jews make such a fuss about those holocaust victims -after all, the Spanish flu epidemic after WWI killed three times more people than were killed by the Nazis. The holocast death toll is nothing in comparison. Should’nt you be having a Spanish Flu Memorial Day instead?” The lack of anger these people show reveals their complete lack of concern for the “little people”. In fact,, they despise the “little people” because they are capable of a natural anger which they see as symptomatic of primitiveness, irrationality and moral inferiority. The death of Ian Brady reminds me that Lord Longford showed the same patrician disdain for Ann West because she threatened to kill Brady or Hindley should they be freed. This unseemly behaviour horrified Longford more than child murder. You can see the same warped thinking amongst apologists for muslim terror.
      Apparently, any action you could take to combat muslim atrocities is “counter-productive ” or a “recruiting sergeant”. Lots of talk about lessons from Northern Ireland. Interment was a recruiting sergeant. It’s not surprising that if you lock up some of your enemies, the enemies you did not lock up will fight back. The nationalists and catholics have always been and will always be enemies of Britain. The political and media elites make a different claim about the British muslim community. Unlike the nationalists/catholics in Northern Ireland, the muslim community is supposed to be against terrorism in Britain. In other words, it is opposed to jihadism, and believes that jihadists are following a perversion of Islam and so must be heretics. If this is the case, the muslim community should be overjoyed that jihadists will be locked up or deported. Throughout the muslim world one of the biggest crimes is heresy The only reason why deportation or interment of jihadists would be a recruiting sergeant in the British muslim community would be that they in fact supported jihadists and jihadists were not heretics, followers of a perversion of Islam.

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      • GCooper says:

        The proper place for Blair is in a cell, praying for leniency when he is sentenced, not on our TV screens being paid to lie.

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        • Minion says:

          definitely after he finally gets charged with war crimes

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          • ID says:

            It wasn’t that Blair, but as they share a name why shouldn’t they share a cell or even a gallows.
            Something mediaeval as a method of dispatch so our muslim friends don’.t feel excluded.

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    • Emmanuel Goldstein says:

      I have a solution but it doubtful that any politician would support it as it isn’t pc.

      For each terrorist atrocity death, deport 100 (or maybe1,000) of them from the area where the terrorist comes from, starting with his family and all relatives.

      Manchester could have seen 2,200 (or 22,000) deported.

      This will give an incentive to anyone knowing about an iffy young musling who is suspect.

      Good Muslims who help the police root out these murderers can be given immunity from deportation.

      The muzzy community would have an incentive to behave, all they need to do is act civilised and help the police against these packs of known wolves.

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  2. petebogtrott says:

    sorry but deport his whole family,cousins,etc .Their father felt safe in Libya,so send them there. He was a nice boy and we didn’t know what he was upto. Bollocks they knew and did nothing so they should be charged the same as if you were involved in a group who murdered someone,Guility,lock em up. simples

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    • The General says:

      Amazing how these people turn up on our shores supposedly ‘escaping’ the threat to their lives posed by the Lybian (etc) regime, then having established themselves within the British benefits system feel perfectly safe to travel back to Lybia(etc) presumably paid for implementing one device or another, by way of the British tax payer.
      As for our police force, they stand by while hoards of screaming Jahad supporters berate British society while displaying violent and murders posters declaring what they will do to we British when they inevitably gain power. The police ignore this and even protect such behavior while pouncing on anyone who might ‘retaliate’ with a ‘hate crime’ such as shouting ” Get out of our country if you don’t like it”. MADNESS !!!!!!

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      • Moodswing6 says:

        General, you should be in charge. Deportation and a full ban on any further Muslim immigration is the very least I want but it will never happen. The power they already have is ridiculous. These bastards come into this country and look at the mess they are already causing. Even though the numbers are relatively low, their grab for power is so obvious. Once those numbers increase and they get into more positions of power all the idiots who think it’s a religion of peace will shit themselves. I have a friend who is well educated but on the subject of Islam and terrorism she will not be swayed. Doesn’t think for a moment that there is a major problem nor can I get her to see that they have an insatiable desire to control us. I mentioned how the London Mayor has told us to get used to it, doesn’t think it’s a problem and she sees the terror attacks as a tiny insignificance. I’ve tried to get it through her head that if they identify as Muslim then they are as guilty as the actual terrorist but I’m wasting my time. I have a Dutch friend living in London who thinks Geert Wilders is dangerous. He’s the man who has to have 24/7 protection and is trying to preserve her country and yet she calls him the dangerous one. A French guy I know working in London was thrilled that Macron was elected. This is a middle aged university educated man who has no reaction to the atrocities in his country or the loss of French culture. Every time I talk to people they throw it back at me as if I’m the problem. I try with the deepest soul to alert them to the future but it is a waste of my energy and the war has already been lost.

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  3. Englands Dreaming says:

    We are getting lots of the usual talk from politicians from all parties, but I have yet to hear any possible policy changes that might make the British public a tad safer. How about this for a starter:
    If someone goes to certain countries ie Syria, Libya, etc without a valid cast iron reason, then when they re enter the UK they can expect to be kept in detention until they are no longer considered a risk. If this is not possible under existing legislation, then just bring in some new law/state emergency powers. Not so difficult is it?

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  4. NCBBC says:

    In less then 40 years Muslim will be a majority in Britain, ad most of Europe. Eastern Europe is wise enough not to allow Muslims entry, despite threats from the EU.

    Lets look at the scenarios.

    1. We fight back – nasty civil war, with the partition of Europe, like former Yugoslavia.

    2. Eastern Europe supported by Russia invades Western Europe, and implements a policy to restore Western civil8isation.

    Option 2 is my choice.

    Lets look at what we are up against. With Islam there will be no compromise. Not because of us, but Islam will not accept a compromise, unless they are losing. Every canonical text of Islam forbids an abiding peace with the Infidel. A compromise treaty (Hudna), can hold for a maximum ten years, with the specific purpose for Muslims to re-organise and re-arm, and start the war again. This will not end until Islam is victorious, and Sharia is established throughout Christendom – the long term goal of Islam, or it is pushed back out of Europe, as it was at the Gates of Vienna in 1684.

    We now have a window, similar to 9/11, when we can turn back this invasion. We also have Pres Trump as an ally. With American backing, Muslim countries will have no option but to accept repatriated Muslims, or the West will force a regime change to one that will.

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    • Cranmer says:

      NCBBC, the idea that Muslims will eventually be in the majority in Europe depends on demographic trends continuing as they are. They may not necessarily do so. There is a third possibility to add to your two options, which is that continuing Islamic extremism eventually causes a domino effect of nationalist elections across the EU, with leaders like Le Pen, Wilders etc (or their equivalents) coming to power, radically restricting immigration and dealing harshly with trouble-makers already resident. It’s not very likely I know, but it is a possibility.
      I recall similar fears up until the late 1980s about the spread of soviet communism, and as we all know, that turned out slightly differently!

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      • NCBBC says:

        Agreed. But why risk it?

        And BTW, if all Geert Wilder and the like did was to stop trouble makers, then we will lose. All Muslims have to do is to behave themselves till they are a near majority. By then it will be too late.

        As for stopping communism, there is a post below.

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        • Cranmer says:

          I’m not convinced that majority Muslim countries necessarily descend into wardlordism and anarchy. The problems seem to occur with Muslim theocratic government rather than the practice of the religion itself. When Muslim populations are kept in line with a strong secular government (eg, Pakistan when it was under British rule, Saddam Hussein’s Iraq, Tito’s Yugoslavia etc) there seem to be fewer problems. What’s happened is that the west has lost its nerve when dealing with Islamists – hopefully Trump is the start of getting it back somehow.

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          • engineerdownunder says:

            Hmm , but none of us wanted to live under Saddam or Tito!

            The other effect (i.e. other than violence) of a country having large Muslim populations that the BBC never analyses is the resulting economic, cultural and even sporting decline. A large or majority population that spends it’s time praying, fasting, learning the Koran by rote and subjugating females does not advance human knowledge or endeavour. Quite the opposite in fact and it’s deliberate so that those in power hold on to power. You can see this all over the ME.

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          • Pounce says:

            I’m not convinced that majority Muslim countries necessarily descend into wardlordism and anarchy. The problems seem to occur with Muslim theocratic government rather than the practice of the religion itself.

            I would love to agree, but whilst there is an element of truth behind that, the fact of the matter is adherence to Islam is the reason why.
            1) Afghanistan:Growth of radical Islam=Civil war= biggest export people
            2) Albania:No radical Islam = huge criminal class = Biggest export people
            3) Algeria: Growth of radical Islam=Civil war= biggest export people
            4) Azerbaijan: No radical Islam = Government corruption = Biggest export after oil, people
            5) Bahrain :radical Islam = Shia/Sunni split= Biggest export Oil
            6) Bangladesh:Growth of radical Islam= struggling Government= biggest export people
            7) Bosnia-Herzegovina :Growth of radical Islam= struggling Government= biggest export people.
            8) Brunei= No radical Islam : Decent Government /Sharia Law= Biggest export Oil
            9) Chad= Growth of radical Islam:Corrupt government= biggest export people
            10) Egypt= Growth of radical Islam:Strong government= biggest export people
            11) Eritrea= No radical Islam : Government corruption = Biggest export people
            12) Gambia= No radical Islam : Government corruption = Biggest export people
            13) Indonesia= Growth of radical Islam:Government corruption= biggest export people
            14) Iran= Indoctrinated Population :Corrupt Government = Biggest export after oil, people
            15) Iraq: Growth of radical Islam=Civil war= biggest export after Oil people
            16) Jordan:Growth of radical Islam=Strong Government
            17) Kazakhstan: Growth of radical Islam=Autocratic Government= biggest export after Oil people (to Russia)
            18) Kosovo:Growth of radical Islam = huge criminal class = Biggest export people
            19) Kuwait:radical Islam = Corrupt Government = Biggest export Oil
            20) Libya: Growth of radical Islam = Corrupt Government = Biggest export people
            21) Maldives :Growth of radical Islam = Corrupt Government = Biggest export people
            22) Mali:Growth of radical Islam = Corrupt Government = Biggest export people
            23) Morocco:Growth of radical Islam = Strong Government = Biggest export people
            24) Niger:Growth of radical Islam = Corrupt Government = Biggest export people
            25) Oman: radical Islam = Decent Government /Sharia Law= Biggest export Oil
            26) Pakistan: Growth of radical Islam = Corrupt Government = Biggest export after terrorism people
            27) Palestinian Territories: Indoctrinated Population =Corrupt Government = Biggest export people
            28) Qatar :radical Islam = Decent Government /Sharia Law= Biggest export Oil
            29) Saudi Arabia:radical Islam exporter= Strong Government /Sharia Law= Biggest export Oil
            30) Senegal: Growth of radical Islam=Corrupt government= biggest export people
            31) Somalia: Growth of radical Islam = Civil War = Biggest export after terrorism people
            32) Sudan: radical Islam exporter= Strong Government /Sharia Law= Biggest export after Oil people
            33) Tunisia: Growth of radical Islam = Corrupt Government = Biggest export people
            34) Turkey: Growth of radical Islam = Corrupt Government = Biggest export people
            35) Yemen:Growth of radical Islam = Corrupt Government = Biggest export after terrorism,people

            The simple fact of the matter is Islam is a very polarised faith, where people are coerced into doing ugly things simply because it is deemed (by that faith) the right thing to do. Autocratic governments/Dictators/warlords/rabble rousers/Thugs excuse their ways (and cross examination) by pointing the finger of blame:
            Jews
            US
            Islamophobia
            Racis
            which at a stroke perpetuates the Islamic standard of victimhood, which in turns justifies intolerance.

            But then somebody will say, But Dr/shopkeeper/taxis driver/???family etc is/are such a nice /people person. However when you ask the following questions:
            Do they allow their females freedom of thought and expression ( Can they date white boys?)
            Are they hypocrites: Do they gamble/drink alcohol/date white people whilst promoting Islamic POV: sharia/FGM/smoke/wear gold etc
            Then we can openly see that Islam in all its many forms is the problem.

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            • ID says:

              It’s fascinating comparing your list with the “integration problems” recently highlighted by the German BBCs. This is because the problems are so severe, they can’t be ignored anymore by the media. Albania, Algeria, Bosnia, Kosovo, Libya, Morocco, Somalia, Sudan, Tunisia all feature to a greateror lesser extent. The only countries left out of the list are Poland – their specialiality is burglary and confidence tricks – and Rumania – specialism begging gangs and pickpocketting. According to ZDF’s reportage 60% of those arrested for pickpocketing at Berlin main station where Rumanians.

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          • Amounderness Lad says:

            When the Indian sub-continent was under British Rule Pakistan did not exist. It was only created after India was granted Independence after much slaughter and religious turmoil as a result of Muslims refusing to live peacefully amongst the other majority religions of India. Eventually two Muslim areas East Pakistan, now Bangladesh, and West Pakistan, now just Pakistan, were created in the hope of solving the religious disputes.

            I can’t be absolutely certain but Bangladesh and India seem to coexist quite peacefully together. On the other hand Pakistan seems to refuse to be willing to live peacefully alongside India and to constantly find reasons to resort to violence using the slightest excuse, real or imagined. The whole of the rest of India, despite it’s multitude of different religions and variety of very different regional peoples manage to coexist without problem never mind wanting to provoke bloodshed.

            Even when India was under British control during the Raj the North West Frontier, now Pakistan and Afghanistan, was a constant source of trouble, disputes, fighting and outright warfare. Even when they weren’t fighting others they would resort to fighting amongst themselves.

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      • ToobiWan says:

        Turned out differently. That’s correct, Cranmer, but when the wall came down in 1989, the soviet communists just didn’t give up their ideology and aims, they just rebranded themselves as greens instead of reds and moved west to take up power in the EUSSR.

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        • Cranmer says:

          ToobiWan, you are correct – which is why I referred to the end specifically of soviet communism rather than communism itself. Marxism in its wider form, as we know, continues to flourish in the west, far more than it does in countries of the ex-USSR, as they have seen first hand the damage it can do.

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      • Payne by name says:

        But even with a nationalist uprising, the Muslims already here are breeding quicker than the indigenous population. In countries like France, even if they wanted to vote Le Pen there simply might not be enough non muslims and non snowflake liberals in 5 years time to make it a reality.

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        • GCooper says:

          There is nothing that cannot be done if a country gets desperate enough. Unfortunately, the longer it takes, the worse the action is likely to be. Liberals, led by the BBC, are providing the perfect conditions for some sort of violently extreme future.

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    • Englands Dreaming says:

      Less 40yrs sounds to short a time period for the demographic change given the current numbers?

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    • Tabs says:

      I recall seeing statistics many years ago that showed the problems Islam causes as the Muslim population grows. It was something like:

      Muslim population <2% (i.e. Canada)…
      Total integration and no problems. Muslim families are so isolated from other Muslims there have no choice but to fully integrate.

      Muslim population 2% to 5% (i.e. most UK towns)…
      Small pockets of Muslim only communities, displaces indigenous population from certain areas.

      Muslim population 5% to 10% (i.e. Hackney, Birmingham, France)…
      Enough population to create Muslim only industry such as Hallah butchers, Muslim shops, Mosques etc. Integration with indigenous population almost zero. Discontent with indigenous population.

      Muslim population 10% to 30% (i.e. Hackney, Birmingham, Ethiopia)…
      Radicalisation, occasional terror attacks etc

      Muslim population 30% to 60% (i.e. Nigeria, Chad Lebanon etc)…
      Civil war, war lords etc

      Muslim population 60% to 80% (i.e. Sierra Leone, Bahrain, Kuwait etc)…
      Poor human rights, executions, unrest, genocide, intolerance of other religions etc.

      Muslim population 80% to 100% (i.e. Pakistan, Libya, Sudan, Nigeria etc)…
      Dictatorships, constant state of war, brutal violence to population, even stricter Islam enforce, daily death common etc.

      One thing is for sure, as the Muslim population tends towards 100% the greater the killing, brutality and backward the human race will become. The UK is on that tipping point where reducing the Muslim population back to <2% is a real possibility.

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  5. NCBBC says:

    I note that Pres Trump is going to demand that NATO change its normal policy of defence of the West from Russia, to defending the West from “radical” Islam.

    Its a very good start. If it happens, then just as immigration from Warsaw pact countries was virtually impossible when the USSR was kicking, so it will be from the Islamic world.

    What other positives I see.

    1. Unlike past visits to Saudi Arabia by a US president, his wife did not wear a hijab in public. Then following on, Ivanka wore a Catholic head cover (mantilla) when visiting the pope. Very interesting. Coincidence?

    2. Pres Trump pulled no punches in his speech to Islamic leaders in Riyadh. They were told that they have to get rid of the evil in their ideology. No one has ever done this to the Saudis in their own house.

    3. NATO is being “asked” by the President of the USA to change its defensive strategy. From the responses, I think European leaders will do so, as all of them are in a state of panic, but they are asking that America commit itself to the defence of Europe. Trump will graciously agree.

    As an aside, Trump’s negotiating ploy has worked. He put the frighteners on NATO members, and now he can afford to be charitable if they fall in line. They will. There was never really any serious policy to abandon Europe.

    This is all very good. If we can go to a war footing with “radical Islam, just as we were with the Warsaw pact, then Europe is saved.

    I have always said that we have to be in a state of war. France already is. Germany too. With troops on the streets in Britain, we too are. All it requires now is for NATO to declare its new enemy and make it official.

    War is a every effective polarizer of society. It also leads as a consequence for opposing factions to self-separate.

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    • NCBBC says:

      Correction:

      1. Unlike past visits to Saudi Arabia by a US president, his wife did not wear a hijab in public. Then following on, Melania wore a Catholic head cover (mantilla) when visiting the pope. Very interesting. Coincidence?

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  6. NCBBC says:

    As an aside, for once I do not have anything against BBC coverage of the situation.

    At this moment, Britain has to be in a state of calm. Hard decisions are going to be made, and are being made. We don’t want to excite the populace, particularly leftists. Decisions are being made in concordance with NATO/America, and then have to be implemented.

    Not sharing information with America is pure hogwash to distract the enemy. MI5 and 6, GCHQ , NSA and CIA are tied at the hip.

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  7. ObiWan says:

    Dunno about any of you, but I’m getting fed up to the back teeth with smirking, disingenuous muslims appearing on TV, radio and online to tacitly excuse or offer weasel-worded apologia for the sins committed in the name of their hateful religion. Last night on two different channels and on two different occasions I saw examples of these scumbags being given air time to offer their sly misdirection whilst claiming victimhood in what is by any sensible and rational measure a viciously evil and premeditated crime perpetrated by a muslim murderer driven by a toxic, vile ideology of hatred, racism and terrorism.

    *fuming*

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  8. Payne by name says:

    It is remarkable that any Muslims could go on TV after the slaughter of 22 innocent concert goers and try to conflate this heinous act with the possibility that someone might shout something nasty or wave a bacon sandwich in their face.

    It’s like someone coming to you and saying that their house has burnt down and you saying ‘I feel your pain, I spilt some tea on the living room carpet last night’.

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  9. Pounce says:

    Anybody able to shed more light on this:

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  10. chrisH says:

    Having heard a bit of JeremyVine, think I can see a “league table” of the victims of the Manchester atrocity emerging.
    If you worked in PR, appeared on “Come Dine With Me” or got a sad Istagram face from Mariah Carey-well, there`ll be plenty more on you and your shallow empty and vacuous life before too long-cue emoting gays on Canal St.
    Whereas if you`re a dumpy divorced mum who simply worked at a school and found herself waiting to pick her kid up…well, sorry but hardly living the dream is it?
    And now I know why so many self-appointed BBC “First Responders” are trawling the North West now-how many weepy school tributes, days off and market stall vigils can you phone in to Salford and get a cheque…blood money, but plenty freelance camp followers can earn a Dominos crust.
    Now-let me say HERE-that even these shallow vapid deaths are bloody awful-these kids doubtless did plenty good before they chose the Fame Game-and their deaths are avoidable tragedies…I pray for them, and it`s awful to be so cynical.
    But Lady Di showed the media how to set the agenda-and as long as we major on Trump and MI5, that`ll keep our eyes out of the Koran and our minds well away from immigration, the hounding out of Christianity in public discourse and the judgement due for our reflex hatred of Judaism in public life and media.
    Trus Vine to do this-a League table of whose death got more sighs and tissues?…my God Islamic State must wonder how thick and devoid of sense we now are.
    Thankfully we here at this site know all the worldwide links to the likes of Bill Warner, Anne Marie Waters-and thanks to all who posted this stuff for us.
    We have no excuse.

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  11. Sluff says:

    Abu Hamza
    Abu Qatada
    Anjem Choudry.
    All given wide and generous uncritical coverage by the BBC. Interviews, preaching in the street, etc.

    The same organisation now consistently bending over backwards at all times to portray only a positive image of the Religion of Peace.

    Pardon me while I throw up.

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  12. taffman says:

    While the defence of the realm is the first duty of the British government, Al Beeb sees its duty as “defender of the faith”.

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  13. Thoughtful says:

    No surprise to find that the Political Correctness Enforcement Squad once known as Greater Manchester Police and ruined by the Fascist Tony Lloyd as Commissioner sees its first duty as protecting (some of) the public from offence.

    The video of the middle aged overweight woman who has reported a nervous looking Muslim woman sitting on a bench at Victoria Station looking at the arena foyer where the bomb went off was told she was a ‘racist’ and how would she liked to be labelled as a terrorist? This was a few minutes before the bomb went off.

    This officer needs some reality training to counter the Political Correctness which has brainwashed him.

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  14. Amounderness Lad says:

    What a load of pathetic garbage from the WSJ. By far the vast majority of the bombing carried out in Syria has been carried out by the Syrian Regime and Russia. Yes there have been the odd attack by the US and Britain using bombs but they have been carried out not against Syria but against ISIS and those attacks have been carried out not for any reasons of religion but because of the primeval barbarity of ISIS and it’s followers.

    When it comes to the gang killing in Manchester there has never been any kind of religious or racial motive behind such behaviour. In fact the gangs in Manchester are most definitely Equal Opportunity organisations who don’t care what race or religion their victims come from only that they have some connection, directly or indirectly, with one of the rival gangs.

    For the WSJ to try and spread the lie that somehow a gang murder, even if it was of a friend, is some kind of cause for the radicalisation and cowardly behaviour of the homicide butcher is nothing other a feeble attempt at PC blame shifting of the most pathetic kind.

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    • Thoughtful says:

      Well the MSM really has done a number on you!

      Remember that Cameron was in Saudi’s pocket and that the only objective in his mind is getting his ands on as much money as possible in the shortest possible time.

      As soon as the commons vote to allow bombing in Syria was in his favour he switched his attention from ISIS to Assad and regime change. There was something of an outcry from the people & MPs who realised they had duped, and that Cameron actually wanted to protect the Saudi backed ISIS fighters, and attack those who were trying to defeat them – the Syrian Army.

      Eventually the Russians moved in and it became much more difficult to bomb Syrian targets.

      This should never have happened in the first place, but it’s just another indicator in how far the British politicians have put the lives of other people at risk in order to impress the money men back in Saudi.

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