START THE WEEK OPEN THREAD…

On time and ready to go, a new Open Thread on which to detail the bias. With radical Islam causing carnage on our streets, the comrades at the BBC are stretched to keep their “Vote Jeremy” meme going. Detail the bias HERE.

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  1. Dover Sentry says:

    BBC Online News:

    “”London attack: Police ‘know identities of killers'””

    “”Speaking to the BBC’s Asian Network, an unnamed man said one of the attackers had become more extreme over the past two years.””

    “”‘I did my bit'””

    “”We spoke about a particular attack that happened and, like most radicals, he had a justification for anything – everything and anything.””

    “”And that day I realised that I need to contact the authorities,” he said.

    “”He said no action was taken””.

    “”I did my bit… but the authorities didn’t do their bit”.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-40155451

    There we have it. The BBC true to form blaming the police and deflecting blame from Islam.

    And an anonymous source of course. How convenient.

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    • TruthSeeker says:

      DS
      An unnamed man.
      All the hallmarks of BBC authenticity.
      I am convinced by the AlBeeb eternal truths.

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    • Fedup says:

      Why is there an al beeb Asian network ? Oops the clue was in the title ….

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  2. Lucy Pevensey says:

    Dover Sentry,
    I saw that on telly last night. They were interviewing the man with his face blurred out. (probably an actor)
    You could easily make out a Muslim-style beard but not his facial features. They kept showing close up shots of his dark brown hands to make his ethnic persuasion quite clear without revealing his identity. Obviously a ‘good-Muslim’ propaganda piece.

    BBC news is little more than fiction anymore.

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    • john in cheshire says:

      How did the far-left bbc find this man they interviewed, did he contact them or do they have contact with muslims who are involved with violence? If the latter, has the bbc hive passed what they have to the police?

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      • Minion says:

        john in cheshire

        “contact with Muslims” the AL BeeB had or has a lot of ” kiddy fiddlers ” too they and Muslims go well together ,,,

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  3. Beltane says:

    The torrent of negativity from the BBC and ITV is becoming truly depressing – and the people the Conservatives choose to defend their record, stance and plans do them no favours. I got up early, channel hopped between the anodyne Beeb sofa and a belligerent Piers Morgan on the other side, and simply wondered why….
    Why, when the immense strides in technology and communications have reduced manpower in virtually every aspect of modern life should this not apply to police numbers?
    Why, when police numbers were at a possible all-time high, the 7/7 bombings were allowed to happen? And why are Corbyn’s absurd posturings about police numbers not challenged?
    Why, when praise from all quarters is being, justifiably, heaped on the police and emergency services for the speed and efficiency of their response to both slaughters (Sorry, they were not ‘events’) do the critics not see, or more significantly, have pointed out to them, that their arguments about police numbers and an overburdened NHS are totally contradicted by reality?
    And why, when asked ‘How many mosques are there in the UK, and how many of them are Wahabi financed?’, did the Tory spokeswoman not simply reply to Morgan, ‘No, but I’m sure you are about to tell me. And if you know the figure, are you suggesting that despite all the protestations to the contrary, there IS an exceptionally well financed section of Islam that DOES preach jihad, and DOES encourage terrorists and terrorism? And if such a situation exists, why does the muslim community as a whole not reject Wahabism and Suffism? And why don’t they march in significant numbers in solidarity and support of their British brothers?
    Questions to take the wind out of spiteful, mendacious windbags like Kevin Maguire, Emily Thornberry, Ed Balls, Leane Wood, Piers Morgan, Nicola Sturgeon, Diane Abbott, and just about every BBC commentator you could care to name.

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    • Lucy Pevensey says:

      Beltane,
      Good post but don’t confuse Sufism with Salafism. They are two different strains of Islam. I wish they were both consigned to the dustbin but Sufis are ostensibly a “mystical” expression of Islam. Sufis thrive in Turkey & some parts of Iran.

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      • Beltane says:

        Thanks Lucy, I stand corrected. At least, confusing Sufi with Salafis isn’t quite on a par with Corbyn’s ability to confuse IRA with It’s a Really Admirable organisation.

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    • nogginator says:

      Bel, the reason you can t find the right No10 guy to defend the Tory record is simple, its indefensible.
      Liar Mays deliberate aims curtailing of the internet? in her shameless electioneering when addressing the Islamic mass murders … no safe space on the internet” eh Liar? perversion of Islam? showing her factual, statistical incompetence again not borne out by reality.
      Plenty of safe spaces in Bradford, Tower Hamlets, Newham, Small Heath, Luton, Dewsbury etc
      … plenty of safe space in the Salafi, Deobandi, Wahabi and Mahoudi Mosques, their Madrassa s.

      The toothless COBRA ,meeting will be drinking mineral water, and implementing the “stable door” policy
      Not a long one though, because Liar May has a lot of spinning and twisting of the tragedy to political advantage to do.
      Utterly craven, self serving and showing such a callous disregard for the dead children, the maimed, the critically injured, the families its hard to fathom.
      She met any of the public yet? from her bullet proof bubble? …. ducking and hiding, evading any scrutiny for her deliberate disasters as home secretary, making lame excuses and u turns, and turncoating, and her suppressing information in her utter disregard for the population she s lied to, and still lying to as a incompetent PM.
      … Beneath contempt.

      The BBC, don t get me started
      BBC News – “London Bridge will never fall down” and “I love London” are just some of the slogans being shared alongside the
      hashtag #prayersforLondon
      Jim Crozier from south-east London wrote: “I am going to a concert in central London tonight. I am not afraid to go. I will not be put off. #staystronglondon #LondonAttacks. #prayersforLondon
      … So here we go … today we already get the “just part of living in a big city” crowd
      … how very politically convenient, for the media to just tow the line
      Looks like they ve forgotten the 22 dead children, already … how many maimed and injured?
      Because
      … Hey! we ll light the candle and stand silent, but come on you know
      … been there done that, Westminster Bridge, Manchester etc
      Sooooo folks … not so many candles, nowhere near as long standing, because well, to be honest,
      its all getting, well a bit …”old” now.
      So its … “just part of living in a big city” but ,very, very carefully nobody says it.
      Here s just about the most perfectly politically convenient cartoon … ever, hyped to the hilt
      (only needs Amber Dudd to say “have a cup of tea”)
      https://ichef-1.bbci.co.uk/news/624/cpsprodpb/14450/production/_96342038_capture.jpg
      Oh …. and all politicians supposedly needed to halt political activity out of respect for those killed, and their families, for the day … broken as soon as Liar May opened her mouth, because none of her four-point plan outlined today are immediate steps, and linking to the manifesto? and linking Brexit trade deal to UK-EU cooperation on C&S
      … most of those maimed are not of hospital from last week yet, never mind Saturday

      But, never miss that camera opportunity eh, her craven obsession with grasping more power is above anything,
      so her political capital is paramount, every shameful underhand excuse in the book, just to carry on
      … she s got a lot of her crony backers “pockets to line” at our expense, as payback … and Brexit to use as the next scapegoat for her failings, and utter Tory incompetence.

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  4. Lucy Pevensey says:

    How long did they run film of that Celebrity Virtue-Signalathon concert in Manchester this morning?
    I kept switching between Sky News, RT News & BBC…… News? hoping it would be over & there might be some real news. It wasn’t covered much on Sky & hardly at all on RT.
    How many people were killed in Manchester & London? Are the body-parts even cold yet?
    Where is the space for grief? Their has been nothing like an adequate interval between the Manchester atrocity and a “celebration”. When London was hit (again) on Sat, that concert should have been cancelled out of respect for the murdered.

    Only this morning, One Islamic-jihad victim has been named. Chrissy Archibald, a Canadian national.
    But they had a concert last night! It did nothing to commemorate the dead.

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  5. Fedup says:

    Today watch
    There was a brilliant section of bias this morning . An A&E consultant who rightly worked on those injured by Islamic ( religion of peace ) terrorists followed by a truly wonderfully biased interview with Yvette Balls doing her serious head girl act moaning that there aren’t more police. How she, Corbin and McDonald change their tune – the latter campaigning for the abolition of special branch and MI5. No challenge. However I have got a pound on Yvette to be next labour leader. 7/1.
    Justin almost let the BBC policy out of the bag when interviewing the arch bish of Canterbury when they were musing on the solution to the Islamic terrorism ‘issue’.cantab mused about stuff on the internet like ” internment” to which smug Justin immediately said” we don’t talk about that “.

    So there it was . Al Beeb policy. Not even to discussing internment- perhaps use an island in the Pacific – or Atlantic – maybe that one with the unusable airport bought with taxpayers overseas aid tax money.

    Then if they want to “off ” themselves for their cause – let them .

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    • popeye says:

      Pixie Balls-Cooper? I was expecting the shadow Home Secretary whose brief this surely is. Now what’s her name…Dianne something. Still waiting………

      I though that the BBC would be chasing her for an interview or would that, in their view, be counter-productive for their chosen party

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      • Dave says:

        I think Diane has another migraine…

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      • Minion says:

        popeye

        Al BeeB interview Diane Fa@@ot they would be better interviewing five year old, more chances of a decent debate with sensible answers

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    • Doublethinker says:

      Has Yvette taken in any migrants yet? She said they welcome in her house last year or the year before. Are they there yet?

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    • G says:

      Fedup,
      “….perhaps use an island in the Pacific …” – Bikini atoll and start test firing again………..

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      • ToobiWan says:

        Nah, G, too warm and sunny. I’d recommend a nice sojourn on Gruinard Island!

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        • Manxman says:

          We would have all fallen out bigly if ya had suggest my island.

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          • ToobiWan says:

            Got a daughter in Douglas, M, she reckons that the IoM is 70K alcoholics clinging to a rock 🙂

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    • MartinW says:

      I’m sorry to say, the Archishop, Justin Welby, was a disgrace on the Today programme. He was at pains to group all main world faiths together, implying there was little difference between them. His main aim, it seemed, was to absolve Islam of all responsibility for the violent acts of its followers, making an egregious parallel with violent acts made by the Christian church in past centuries. But the central (and patently obvious) point is that suppression of, violence towards and actual killing of non-muslims (including the ‘People of the Book’) is part of Islam itself. One only has to refer to Islam’s holy books (and they believe Islam is perfect, so no deed that follows its teachings can possibly be wrong). It is reasonable (and frightening) to conclude, therefore, that those who perpetrate violence towards ‘non-muslims. are those who most perfectly follow the teachings of Islam and the life its prophet. We remind ourselves that many (all) Islamic scholars attest that there is no such things as ‘moderate islam’, only islam itself, perfect and immutable. In contrast, the terrors perpetrated by the Christian clergy in past centuries were starkly contrary to Christian teaching. I’m sure Justin Welby is well aware of the diametrically opposed distinctions between islam and Christianity, but chose to be political rather than support the Christian gospel.

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      • Ian Rushlow says:

        What qualifies Justin Welby to speak about Christianity? He doesn’t seem to be a Christian, himself. Just saying…

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        • Dave S says:

          The C of E is ill served as always by it’s bishops and senior clergy.

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      • Lucy Pevensey says:

        The problem for Welby’s credibility as a man of God is that not only do we all have access to The Koran in English, we have access to The Bible as well. He can’t justify from the foundation of his professed faith, a betrayal of his own [Christian people] and a promotion of what The Bible calls “A Foreign God” He should be urging Muslims to faith in Jesus Christ if he is given telly time.
        If he is preaching any other gospel, both the Prophet Isaiah & the Apostle Paul warn he must be a liar.
        (As far as the faith is concerned)
        Feed Muslims? yes. Clothe them? Yes. Then drop-kick their odious god from the country.
        Have we not been taking care of many thousands, if not millions of Muslims? Exceedingly.
        I can’t see where Britain could be faulted for ignoring the poor. We have taken them in & we have sent aid abroad. But the establishment never talks about sending them home eventually.

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      • MartinW says:

        I think a mea culpa may be in order. I have now read Cranmer’s article about Justin Welby’s Radio 4 interview , and it seems I much misheard and misinterpreted what the Archbishop said. On this basis, I withdraw my previous remarks made on him. I was actually much relieved reading Cranmer’s article, since I had had high regard for Welby, knowing something of his history of his pastoral and other work with needy people. I shall listen again to the interview.

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    • theisland says:

      Fedup
      My guess is that crooked Starmer is ‘earmarked’ for the next Lab leader.

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      • Up2snuff says:

        Hilary Benn was hoping for that job but I think he probably blew it with that emotional tirade in the last HoC Syria debate. Like BoJo and Phil Hammond, he has been strangely absent from the GE17 Campaign.

        I like the nickname that someone on here gave the former DPP head: Der Starmer.

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      • Fedup says:

        Nah- the island – he’d need to wear a dress and convert to Islam…. there again….

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      • Grant says:

        theisland,

        Starmer, there’s another beauty.

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  6. Doublethinker says:

    The contributors to this site have long known that the BBC shares all the values of the liberal left , they ram them down our throats every day, it is also apparent that the Tory party has much in common with the BBC , particularly on immigration and Islam. We can see that there will be much fine talk from the Tories about combatting extreme Islam but as soon as the Muslims show even the slightest degree of unhappiness at any action that is taken it will be reversed. Of course the anti British Labour Party ,which increasingly relies on the dubious postal voting of immigrants , will open the flood gates again and swamp us with millions of of third world Muslim migrants. Of that we can be absolutely certain.
    We are a country that is being destroyed from within by our own leaders. Indeed we are a continent that is being destroyed by its own leaders. These evil fools have decided that European culture , peoples and civilisation is to be sacrificed to the false god of Globalisation. It is abundantly clear that the mass migration these idiots encourage is resulting in great strife , that the migrants are not enriching our society but destroying it. Already many Europeans have be killed or maimed by migrants or their off spring, tens of thousands have been brutally raped , millions live in fear of the next terror attack. Yet the people still vote for the very same leaders who have inflicted this tragedy on them. Even in France and Holland where solid anti Islam options were available to voters the majority chose the pro migration alternatives.
    What spell are the people of Europe under? Some have swallowed the liberal left enrichment tripe and the ridiculous notion that it is racist to resist, put out by the MSM and the educational establishment. Also I think many fear the consequences of attempting to deal with Islam. I can understand that, it will be tough, but the consequences will get worse the longer the problem remains unaddressed. If nothing is done simple mathematics shows that there will be a majority of Muslims in Europe by the end of this century. But long before then European civilisation will have been destroyed. It is past the time that Europeans woke up to what is being done to them . But who will set the alarm off? Not the likes of the BBC or Labour that is for sure. Even the Tories are reluctant to do so.

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    • Lobster says:

      Those in power can’t claim that they weren’t warned.

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    • Cranmer says:

      Doublethinker, I have noticed that the lefty snowflakes seem to be in even stronger denial at the moment. I think what’s happening is they know deep down there is a problem with Islam, but they daren’t admit it even to themselves, because it could bring the whole rotten edifice of multiculturalism crashing down. This is making them angry because of cognitive dissonance. I even heard someone say that it was ‘disgusting that someone like Farage is now considered mainstream.’ At the moment they still think that Farage is somehow the problem, not a reaction to the problem. There is a long, long way to go but I think if violence continues, they will have no choice but to accept the new geopolitical realities and maybe then something will be done.

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      • Doublethinker says:

        Cranmer,
        In a way the terror is at least alerting Europeans to what is happening to their civilisation. As you suggest it may get bad enough to actually wake them up and for some sort sensible defensive action to be taken. But What is also true is that Muslims can and are getting exactly what they want by the mere threat of violence. And whilst they do that they keep on breeding their way to domination. The chilling fact is that with the current policies of European governments Islam will triumph without the need of violence. I am very glad I am 65 years of age but I have deep fears on behalf of younger generations who are being duped by politicians and the media like the BBC.

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        • Cranmer says:

          Doublethinker, we can never be sure what will happen in the future. A classic example is the fall of the Soviet Union, which nobody really predicted. As late as about 1988 I still recall newspaper articles raising fears over a Russian invasion of West Germany, etc. I’m not holding my breath, but an equivalent could be the resurgence of strong secular government in the Middle East and north Africa which would keep the mad mullahs in check and prevent widespread emigration, coupled with the rise of nationalist governments in Europe following a collapse of the EU.

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        • Moodswing6 says:

          Doublethinker I’m 62 and won’t be around for too much longer. Yet I keep fretting over what’s happening. Despite telling myself over and over again that it’s not my problem, I can’t help but feel helpless despair. I was taught good manners and I got smacked but I never felt afraid nor did I ever relate being smacked as cruel or unkind. I played outside and went alone with friends to the Saturday morning pictures for six pence. I was even allowed to travel on the train into Glasgow Central. It wasn’t far but for a young boy it was an adventure and I am so grateful to my parents for giving me the freedom. I’m not fond of children in general. I have met some lovely well behaved and very polite ones but overall the rest of them are welcome to enjoy the world with their Nike trainers, beats headphones, I pads and x boxes. That’s about as far as their world exists. Despite the internet, instead of opening up the world to them it’s actually closed them in. Their headless parents don’t have a clue either. As soon as you even look at one the wrong way the parent will be screaming for your blood. So don’t fret for the young fuckers, just pour another drink and be grateful that we’ve had the best of times. Oh I forgot to add that I used to look forward and enjoy BBC afternoon television with Andy Pandy, Bill and Ben, Sooty, Punch and Judy. They were innocent and great fun. Now crazed parents and social justice warriors would be horrified if their children were subjected to these programmes but letting them play the most violent of games on their X box that’s fine.

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          • Doublethinker says:

            Moody,
            I totally sympathise with your post, many youngsters are hard to relate to. By the way I hated Andy Pandy . I now realise he was a role model for a liberal left Beeboid so my hatred of the BBC has been with me for sixty years. I am proud of this ! My wife knows that my epitaph must be , ‘ Here lies a man who hated the BBC all of his life’ So what you may ask , well perhaps someone wandering around a country church yard , assuming such places still exist in the future, will see that at least some of us were able to think for ourselves and knew that the BBC was evil and determined to destroy our nation.

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            • Moodswing6 says:

              Double, this is where I have to admit ignorance. I had no idea of the CBB agenda back then and I was taken to Australia at the age of 9. Growing up I would always look forward to episodes of comedy and drama coming in from the UK. Even on arriving back here in 2012 I was still completely unaware. I can’t say exactly when the penny dropped but I felt like a fool. Thank god I am clued in now, at least I won’t die in ignorance. Again let’s celebrate our age and the best of times. I know they were far from perfect but let me at least think they were. I feel like bursting into Land Of Hope and Glory!

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        • Dysgwr_Cymraeg says:

          The younger generation:
          Until a couple of months ago, I’d have shared your concern for their future.

          Then I read a post on here ( sorry cant remember the author) who prescribed a course of ‘ sit back and enjoy the decline”.
          In essence it argued that us old timers cant change it. We can see what is happening, but only the generations coming later have enough votes to change anything. And they, quite frankly aint interested in sites like this. They are swallowing hook line and sinker the shit being pumped out by the broadcast media. They think it’s cool to be PC. Peer pressure counts for some of that as well as being a result of a leftward slanted education system. Also, many employment sectors wont keep an openly right wing person employed.
          The previous poster basically says, look you cant make them see that they are sheep inviting wolves to devour them tomorrow ( my words not his/hers).
          Therefore, warn them yes, if they dont listen….well…bollocks….I’ll probly be pushing up daisies before they get to me.
          When you get movements like an LGBT group marching in favour of islam you just know we are all fucked, not to mention feminists claiming the burka liberates women.
          So…I truly have taken the advice…worry about the snowflakes? Nahhh…not me.
          I must confess that previously I’ve been thought of as the usual racist or ( insert-any-word)Phobe, ny ynger generations, and it bugged me. They resorted to that of course since they have no logical argument. NowI laugh at their future. Either they wake ip or will die nasty deaths.

          Oh…having read Doublethinkers post above, I just thought perhaps I could have on my tombstone:
          ” I told you the bbc was shit”

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          • Cranmer says:

            I think things with ‘the yoof’ are slightly better than they were, say, ten years ago. Apparently the ‘alt right’ (for want of a better term) has quite a youthful following. As Paul Joseph Watson says, you can’t be counter-cultural AND part of the dominant culture at the same time. Youngsters – those that can think for themselves – are starting to see that a lot of the stuff they are fed at school and university is BS and they are rebelling against it. There was no ‘alt right’ when I was an undergraduate 25 years ago – the only non-lefties were spotty ‘Tory Boys’ who couldn’t get girlfriends.

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            • Doublethinker says:

              Cranmer,
              It is true that on the continent there is a growing identitarian movement of young people who oppose Islamification. How strong this movement really is I don’t know but it is at lest a seed which may grow. It is also true that in France the FN is well represented amongst the under thirties.

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    • Fedup says:

      Double thinker,
      Having been exposed too far too much al Beeb in the campaign I was starting to scheme the benefits of a hung labour government. So bad that it would collapse as the British voter came to its senses and put in a full conservative government next time – you know – one that believes in law and order – will control al Beeb – privatise it and al c4 – that sort of thing.

      Then I woke up and realised that the British voter is far too sensible to vote Corbin, Abbott and McDonald into power – right?

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      • Doublethinker says:

        Fed up,
        Until the last three weeks I too thought that common sense would prevail and Corbyn et al would get a pasting, losing fifty plus seats. But now it really does look like whilst they are unlikely to win there are lots of idiots out there who will vote for them and their losses will be much less than fifty. I don’t particularly like referring to my fellow voters as idiots but if you vote for Corbyn you have to be one or to have been brainwashed by the BBC. If the brainwashing continues who knows the outcome of future elections.

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        • Dysgwr_Cymraeg says:

          Dont believe this labour surge being touted by the opinion polls….they are miles out.
          They still havent wised up to the ‘ closet tory’ concept.
          Corbyn scares the voters shitless.

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      • Lobster says:

        Fedup – I rather like the idea of a hung Labour government – piano wire should do quite nicely ….

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    • Rick Bradford says:

      Doubleplus good, Doublethinker.

      The answer to your question “What spell are the people of Europe under” is answered in the video below (12 minutes, but the answers come in the first half)

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      • Doublethinker says:

        Interesting. I didn’t grasp all of it but I did get the way the likes of the BBC and Labour have noting but contempt for our society. It also explains why our duration system is dedicated to making young children feel ashamed of British history etc. The stranglehold that these Post Modernists have on our society right across the West is frightening.

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  7. Tabs says:

    I was a bit bored so I made this…

    [url=https://ibb.co/b5y17a]lambs_to_slaughter.jpg[/url]

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    • chrisH says:

      Do love this.
      “if a picture paints a thousand words”.
      Stay bored Tabs(which won`t be difficult given the medias weirdity at the minute).
      A true creative-like our Scottisn Calvin artist.
      Creativity wins-the Left no longer have any.
      Only bitter hippies like Roger Waters and Steve Bell.
      Keep en coming-and thanks for the laugh!

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    • Dysgwr_Cymraeg says:

      Stolen and used on my FB page..many many thanks

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    • Pete says:

      Maybe if the lambs had a pop concert it would make it all feel better .

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  8. Charlie Martel says:

    So I researched terror attacks since 9/11 and here are my findings: some were by Muslims with a connection to ISIS or Al Qaeda, others were by Muslims with no links to terror organisations. Some were young Muslims, some were old Muslims. Some were Muslims who were recent migrants to the West, , others were Muslims born and bred here. Some were poor Muslims, some were rich Muslims. Some were ‘good’ Muslims who didn’t drink alcohol and attended their mosque, others were very ‘bad’ Muslims indeed. Some were Muslims who had been in jail while others were Muslims who hadn’t. Some were extremist Muslims, some apparently moderate Muslims. Some were Muslims seemingly well-integrated in Western society, some were Muslims on the margins. Some were Muslims with mental health problems, others were sane Muslims. Some were male Muslims, some were female Muslims. Some were Muslims from Pakistan, some were Muslims from Syria, Iraq, Libya, Afghanistan, Tunisia, Egypt, Lebanon, US, UK, Kirghistan, France, Germany, ‘Norway’… almost every country on Earth.
    So despite my best efforts, I could find no common thread whatsoever. Baffling, isn’t it?
    Perhaps some eagle-eyed readers will be more successful than me in spotting any commonality. If so, please notify the beebistan and the authorities.

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    • Tabs says:

      The common factor is right wing extremism!

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    • Ian Rushlow says:

      This is a difficult one. But it’s nothing to do with Islam, right?

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    • Charlie Martel says:

      My above post got truncated. It was meant to start:

      Once again our finest minds at al beebeera and elsewhere are baffled as to the possible motivation for the London terror attack. If only we could find some common denominator that connected all the terrorist of recent years, we could perhaps find a clue to the above question and maybe begin to find a way to stop future attacks.

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      • chrisH says:

        We here at the Educated Muslims for Jihad bitterly resent you missing us out there Charlie.
        You are hereby renamed Lena Al Martelani, and a Fatwine has been tissued on you.
        Al Atta(PBUH) was-in fact-an architecture PhD from Homburger Uni-and was correct to call out crap town planning like Manhattan.
        Look and weep-he dreamt than one day ALL towns would look lie Aleppo.
        And London and Manchester certainly lookj like Kabul today-which is at least a start.
        Abedi went to Salford Uni, which was founded by Lord Albert Tatlock.

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    • Lucy Pevensey says:

      Again…….

      nothing-to-see-here.gif?w=300&h=151

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    • boohanna says:

      Charlie, the MSM also struggle with this very same conundrum.

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  9. Thoughtful says:

    LBC had a depressing interview with an anti terror ‘expert’ this morning, towards the end of the interview he said that no matter what anti terrorism legislation is brought in, there is a small group of left wing liberals who will when it is applied to a terrorist employ lawfare to frustrate the process and by the time the sleepy legal process is completed the terrorists objectives will be either fulfilled or he will have escaped.

    Time to make lawfare illegal.

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    • Deborahanother says:

      As I keep saying we need to repeal the Human Rights act and withdraw from ECHR.Hit these lawyers and so called activists where it hurts ie in the pocket.Blairs government was stuffed with lawyers including his wife who got stinking rich on her husbands legislation .

      If Mrs May gets a large majority she needs to use it to dismantle this Liberal leftie clap trap once and for all.

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      • Ian Rushlow says:

        If Mrs May gets a large majority she needs to use it to dismantle this Liberal leftie clap trap once and for all.
        I agree with the sentiment, but if she gets a large majority despite the liberal leftie clap trap, then it simply confirms to her that it’s not an impediment to her success so she doesn’t need to do anything about it. The Tories have been bleating on about reducing net migration to 100,000 since 2010, with Mrs May as Home Secretary doing much of the bleating, without actually doing anything about it. Didn’t stop people voting for them in 2015, nor will it in 2017. In general, politicians only act when it affects them pesonally in their climb up the greasy pole, otherwise they simply view it as ‘noise’ which they can ignore.

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        • G says:

          Ian,
          Now we are told by the Conservatives that it will take as long as the next Parliament to bring it down. No it doesn’t and no it won’t. I smell the long-grass………..

             14 likes

        • ToobiWan says:

          People voted them in, in 2015, Ian, because of the fear of a possible Labour/SNP “dream team” stitch up and it worked.

             10 likes

      • Minion says:

        Deborahanother

        not forgetting to dismantle the BBC at the same time

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      • theisland says:

        Deborahanother
        Absolutely.
        You have hit the nail on the head here.

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  10. gaxvil says:

    Cressida Dick says, we don’t need more armed Police because those we have can drive to the trouble in their cars.
    Again with the, the public don’t want to see armed officers on street corners.
    Like she knows what we all think? Amazing!

    And no, as we listen to the excuses, the empty words and worthless plans, we do not feel united or confident.
    Must try harder, Sally is tired of waiting.

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    • gb123 says:

      I am surprised Cressida didn’t say that the police could use bicycles to get there to reduce the carbon footprint. PC no longer means police constable in the leadership of today.

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      • Deborahanother says:

        Cressida Dick sounded more like a hippy social worker. She didnt fill me with confidence. Another product of graduate fast tracking.

           63 likes

        • chrisH says:

          Maybe if we tell her that these so-called Islamic nuttaz are merely Brazilian electricians infiltrating the ChekkaTrade Quality Kite Mark Awards?
          All who sign up with this nomark are Desert Island Dicks as well. As for no Marks?…well, lots of Marx-but no Sir Robert.

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          • nofanofpoliticians says:

            and therein lies her problem. She risks the full wrath of the liberal left, lead by the BBC if she goes full on… she’s compromised by her role in the Menezes case, something which the boy Jones alluded to in the run up to her selection.

            Actually, in its way, its quite similar to what happened to Whittingdale at the time of the Charter renewal discussion. Eager readers will recall the dirt the BBC had on him and how that worked out.

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        • GCooper says:

          Graduate fast ‘training’ and, never forget, tick box minority fast tracking.

          Desperate to prove how ‘inclusive’ they are, the only trick they missed, as far as I am aware, is that Ms Dick has all four of her limbs, so she missed a tick in the ‘disabled’ box.

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        • Old Goat says:

          Oh, she is. She is dedicated to “diversity”, so you can expect the Met to become even MORE PC, if that’s at all possible.

             22 likes

          • RJ says:

            “you can expect the Met to become even MORE PC,”

            OG, there was an item in the news last week that the Met will now recruit directly to CID. The sensitive snowflakes won’t have to spend any time on the streets in uniform interacting with us plebs.

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        • ToobiWan says:

          Product of Common Purpose 1996/97 when she graduated the Matrix course, Alicia.

             18 likes

          • GCooper says:

            And to think how the Left used to bang on about the Freemasons and their prominence in the police force. Now the force gets infiltrated in a far more nakedly subversive way and… not a peep.

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            • ToobiWan says:

              Not just the Police, GC, CP’s tentacles spread as far as local government, education, media (BBC heavily represented) anywhere where “people can lead beyond authority” Nuspeak for subvert and undermine!
              Punch a name or organisation into the search fields on:
              http://www.cpexposed.com/graduates

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              • GCooper says:

                Yes, indeed, ToobiWan. CP is on my list of undesirables, believe me.

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        • Up2snuff says:

          Think not, Deborah.a;
          IIRC, Cressida Dick did post grad stuff as thirty/forty-something at Oxford. She’s bright but couldn’t disguise the fact that she was having to speak ‘from a script’ this morning.

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      • Thoughtful says:

        Whilst I agree with the sentiment given the London traffic, especially after an incident like this, bikes are often the quickest way to get somewhere.

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    • Emmanuel Goldstein says:

      Gaxvil.
      8 minutes is an impressive response.
      I wonder what the armed police response team time would be for a similar ‘event’ in Carlisle or Yeovil?

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      • G says:

        That’s the problem EG, for total impact the Islamists may head for the likes of Carlisle or Yeovil to take out their hatred of the Kuffar. That would really put the cat amongst the pigeons – no obstacles and it would have the greatest impact on the public.

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    • Rob in Cheshire says:

      An unarmed British Transport Policeman ran to the scene and was badly injured. If he had had a pistol, the incident could have ended then and there.

      Unarmed police belong in the era of Dixon of Dock Green. In an era of rampaging muslim terror, they are of no use at all. Politicians have changed our society out of all recognition, yet they cling to the notion of unarmed police. Is it because if they admit we need armed police, they will tacitly be admitting that they have completely screwed up the country?

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  11. Mice Height says:

    I can’t think why the BBC won’t have Lee Hurst on anymore. Far better to stick to the entirely predictable, entirely humourless twats that infest R4 and their TV panel shows daily.

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  12. chrisH says:

    A comedian refugee still with his brain intact?
    We need to create a safe space or sanctuary for our creatives and comics who refuse to tow the BBC Lefty line.
    Frank Turner, Lee Hurst and that Andrew comedian I`ve noted once or twice.
    Richard Osman said something off piste during the Eu Referendum as I recall.
    Got a full phone box anyway.

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    • Mice Height says:

      Yep, Andrew Lawrence is a legend too.
      I’ve only really recently started taking a bit of an interest in Twitter, but both him and Lee Hurst constantly post great one-liners. As their humour aims at targets other than UKIP and Trump though, then there’s no way the BBC would even consider employing them.

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      • Cranmer says:

        In the USA there’s also Doug Stanhope and Bill Burr, and in Australia there’s Steve Hughes. I don’t agree with all they say but they are consistently non-PC comedians who don’t bow the knee to the usual idols.

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  13. Beeb Brother says:

    Allahu Akhbar friends!

    Wasn’t it great on Saturday night when it seemed the death count was up to eight, but it turned out the eighth killing was actually unrelated gang violence? What a relief! How vibrant is that – two different shades of our rainbow nation spilling red over our fallen capital. I shed a tear of joy in celebration of such diversity.

    I think they should create a full-on BBC TERROR channel, otherwise that is all we ever hear about on the news. We have long been told what immeasurable benefits the influx brings to our country and this is certainly one burgeoning industry. There could be betting odds on above or below ten kills for the next atrocity, or which platitudes will be uttered the most; Bet 365 are currently going even money on ‘will not divide us.’ Supporters could follow the stats of each country, with Libya currently top of the league. Eagle-eyed investors could recommend buying shares in candle companies or the rocketing prices for houses in the countryside. Perhaps there will soon just be an automated, recorded response from politicians to each atrocity or perhaps it will be outsourced to local councillors.

    I fear gallows humour is the only response to the dystopian horror show unfolding. I was in London just hours before the attack. Such a glorious city – shame I can never visit it again. We have the well-mannered tyrants at the Beeb to thank for that. They thought by just pretending everything was ok and vilifying anyone who dared speak the truth these problems would go away. They have not.

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    • Dave S says:

      I very much resent not being permitted to take my grandchildren to London . Their parents will not allow it.
      Now when would this last have been the situation in peacetime?
      During the plague I suppose.
      The mayor can bleat all he wants. London is off limits now and for the foreseeable. I feel sorry for those who have to go to work but I am sure technology will soon negate a lot of that.

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      • Lobster says:

        I used to visit London on a regular basis but I haven’t been for about five years, not because of the fear of terrorists but because of the “multicultural” shithole it has become. When I felt like the only native Briton in a railway carriage in my own Capital, I decided to call it a day.

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        • Fedup says:

          Very wise lobster – sadly I’m born and bred londonistan so I get used to talking to my self to hear English being spoken – yep I’m a racist – I’m not fond of the vibrancy , diversity and excitement that a Saturday out in Borough High Street can bring.

          I hope the 40 plus still in hospital pull through.

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        • Clare says:

          Depends where you go. I doubt if many people choose to stroll around Tower Hamlets or New Cross, or have done for some time.

          I mentioned recently that I was in Borough Market a short while ago. Not very multicultural unless you include white Europeans, which is why it was targetted of course. We had a very enjoyable, non multicultural, walk along the South Bank to Charing Cross. Clean, safe, civilised. The worst part of this experience was entirely home grown – the peculiarly British lack of aesthetic sensibility in public open spaces. The Queen Elizabeth Hall has always been ugly, but they’ve actually achieved the impossible and made it worse, adorning the front with painted transport containers. Then there’s the long-established skateboard “skatepark” underneath.

          We’re ensconced in Suffolk, which is relatively undamaged by unwanted immigration, but it’s all relative these days and unlikely to survive unless May gets her act together. Even here the impact of white-flighters with no real interest in the countryside is just starting to change the area for the worse. Ours seem to be from Birmingham. Londoners seem to head for Kent and Essex. Drive north or north-west and the full benefits of diversity become more obvious.

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    • Cranmer says:

      Beeb brother, I agree, sadly such comedy would never be allowed on the airwaves. In a way, we deserve what we get. Despite all the killing, my social media feeds are riddled with idiots appeasing the terrorists; on a perfectly reasonable forum discussion we were told we should all go to ‘Britain First’ because there was no place for our opinions elsewhere. At best there’s a sort of handwringing and ‘but what can we DO?’ approach. It’s pathetic.

      I’ve already had one foreign friend, from Hungary, cancel her visit to the UK this summer. We should encourage anyone who does this to write to Visit Britain, the British tourist board, explaining precisely why they will not be visiting. If politicians don’t care, maybe those whose incomes depend on tourism do.

         27 likes

      • Beeb Brother says:

        What effect will all this have on tourism? It will surely cost us billions.

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        • Up2snuff says:

          But all the politicians, and the BBC have been happy to transmit their words, are telling us how immigration is essential for Britain and brings skills and colossal economic benefits to our country.

          There may be some re-calculating going on this week.

          I hope it is at No.11 Downing Street but that may be a doomed hope, already.

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          • Kaiser says:

            ” telling us how immigration is essential for Britain and brings skills and colossal economic benefits to our country”

            now of course what they hide in that is

            they dont cost in the future costs when they need health care and pensions

            the costs to the natives of higher house prices and wage deflation, job losses etc

            nearly all the benefits of white european and white commonwealth immigration are wiped out by the costs associated with 3rd world immigration

            that Indian sub-continent immigration is a massive net loss

            that they even have to include actual indians in those figures and they are still a massive loss

            over 50% of Muslims are not in employment

            20% are claiming disability benefit

            they are churning out geneticly defective children at a massive rate

            it cost us 9 billion just to monitor (some) muslim radicals

            and that’s just the tip of the iceberg of lies and deceit

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        • Despairada says:

          Isn’t that part of the plan? To force the host country to spend treasure and resources so as to be seen to be doing something about it. Deliberately living off benefits has the same intent. We are to be drained and weakened.

          The terrorist events are a distraction from creeping islamisation, which is so nice and peaceful that nobody minds that. We are only allowed to mind being killed and maimed.

             20 likes

        • Ian Rushlow says:

          We do have a great Health tourism industry, though – not sure if that will be affected. And that costs us billions.
          Oh, hang on a sec…

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  14. Franglais says:

    BBC interviewing a Moslem Imam, a Leftie Woman Vicar and somehow a Jewish Rabbi holding his hands out to our Moslem friends!!!
    And of course, NO REPRESENTATION view for the majority of us.

    What planet are the BBC and these idiots on? There are still murdered bodies in mortuaries FFS……….

    No Bstard BBC, the only way now is ship ’em out en mass……The politicians are not protecting us, Plod is not protecting us (quite the contrary….be careful what you write), well I don’t care anymore, I have gone past listening to these apologists.

    Can we not commandeer the boats on the South Coast, fill ’em up and fire ’em out?

    Is there not some organisation that can be formed to sort this problem out?

       70 likes

    • chrisH says:

      Sad to say that any Jews that I see getting interviewed by the media are their preferred version of Judaism.
      More Julia Neuberger, less Stephen Pollard. Christians likewise-no to Ian Paisley or Baroness Cox, yes to Dianne Louise Jordan or Lucy Winkett.
      Religion really needs to stop feeding the liberal media with anything but the doctrine of hell.
      Maybe-until they do-that`s the role of Islam.

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    • gaxvil says:

      You’re talking about something akin to the French Resistance of WW2 or the UK groups trained in readiness for a Russian invasion.
      I can’t believe that the powers that be have not made similar provision but maybe not? Maybe they just have a plane standing by to take them somewhere nice. Branson’s island may get very crowded.

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      • Cranmer says:

        I find it highly unlikely that there are any official secret government plans to combat Jihadism. What is possible however is that elements within the armed forces (one of the last bodies to not have been completely taken over by cultural marxism, common purpose etc) may be unofficially be preparing plans. We know that something similar happened in the 1970s where a group of senior officers were in readiness for a coup during the Winter of Discontent. We can but hope.

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    • Doublethinker says:

      Franglais,
      I too used to think those who opposed mass migration were in an overwhelming majority. But these polls over the past few weeks make me wonder. If you are opposed to mass migration and more third worldersin our country , how on earth can you vote Labour? Surely even the most stupid voter can see that if Corbyn is PM there will be a tidal wave of migrants into our country. So I have to conclude that at least a third of the population , possibly more if you take Lib Dems into account, want to throw open our borders and let the world in. Either that or the polls are hopelessly wrong. Let’s hope it’s the latter.

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      • Kaiser says:

        now your just not taking into account those who dont actually pay tax and need/want labour to increase their freebies

        I know many who deep down know that voting labour is very very wrong but the hope of a few pounds of someone elses money gets them making excuses for corbyn (ex NI squaddie, minimum wage slaves, etc, etc)

        I can explain it all too them very very slowly, they agree with every word and then when you finished off they go, but corbyn doesnt think that anymore, but thatcher, but but but but but but but … my dad always voted labour, but but but

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  15. nogginator says:

    BBC – going big, very big on … One Love Manchester: The most emotional moments this morning.
    Katy Perry, Black Eyed Peas??? … where is the love etc
    BBC – ‘They just didn’t get back to me’ – A man who knew one of the London attackers says he reported him to the anti-terrorist hotline two years ago. On Al Beeb News and Asian Network,” its given a bad name to my community now”
    … so on Asian Network it appears to be our fault.
    BBC – “Unbelievable amount of blood”,
    BBC – “he didn t look scared, he looked demented” … hope that doesn t lean to erm … “mental illness” again

    Stop importing terrorists – M Steyn
    “No one likely to end up as Prime Minister or Home Secretary after this Thursday’s election seems minded to say that, never mind act on it.
    Instead, we have the usual post-terrorist theatre: Congratulations for the speed of the emergency services, and sober anchor men announcing that Theresa May will be chairing a meeting of COBRA – as though a bunch of bureaucrats with a butch-sounding acronym has any clue about how to stop the corpse count from mounting.
    The cynical strategy of British and Continental leaders is to get their citizens used to this.”
    “The Islamic supremacists want to kill as many infidels by whatever means are to hand. Nor are statistics relevant: If you’ve lost your only child because she went to an Ariana Grande concert, that’s 100 per cent of your kids who are dead. When it comes to deceased loved ones, the only statistical pool that counts is your family, not the nation or the planet.
    This is a heartless sophistry from, in large part, the very same people who supported the policies that imported these pathologies to the west. It seems, at a certain level, incredible that you can have two major terrorist attacks in Britain’s capital and second largest city in the days before a general election – and yet it will make no difference to Thursday night’s result. For who among the major parties is offering any alternative to the disastrous, destructive conventional wisdom?
    https://www.steynonline.com/7885/a-lot-more-than-london-bridge-is-falling-down

    COBRA – Was Citizen Khan there?, he ll just be so pleased Liar May has adopted his,
    nothing to see “just part of living in a big city”, move things on, approach to terrorism … so enthusiastically ,
    (for her own selfish political advantage of course).
    Was Sayeeda there? … who wants to have specialist teams watching – all 23 000 – 24/7 that are on the watchlist,
    (hand -forehead -slap), she didn t consider internment though

    http://talkradio.co.uk/news/london-attacks-muslim-peer-baroness-warsi-says-every-known-radical-should-be-watched-247

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  16. nofanofpoliticians says:

    I am puzzled by the polls, unable to understand a spread of +1 and +13 points 3 days before election day.

    This sits alongside analysis from the 2015 election, a lot of which concluded that it will be very hard for Labour to win the next election (2020, now 2017) UNLESS it started winning places like Basingstoke in the South, ie places it had never won in history. This analysis recognised or stated that Labour did so badly in the last election that it had more MPs in marginal constituencies (with majorities less than 3000) than ever before.

    The time that has elapsed has been unmitigated disaster for Labour and nothing has happened to suggest that any of this analysis is wrong or has been addressed or corrected.

    Granted, the Tory campaign has been pathetic, but that doesn’t account for the spread in these polls so I reckon

    1. They have been skewed by Momentum supporters in much the same way as BBC audiences have been, or
    2. The broadcasting media (BBC ITV and Sky) have skewed their reporting to indicate a more positive showing for Labour

    Anecdotally, I have heard examples of 1, but maybe its a bit of both. I can’t recall reports of Corbyn spending much time in the South or indeed visiting any marginal constituencies at all, so I guess someone is going to have a bit of explaining on Friday morning?

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    • chrisH says:

      Been reading a book on the 2015 election.
      Not one pollster was sacked-yet three party leaders fell in the one day.
      Basically-selling a perpetual crock, following like minded lemmings into the pen. So they can rebrand Ribena next month. The media are giving us no figures-which means a Tory landslide I`d guess. If it was close, or geniune-remember the 2015 floods of polls as they thought they`d be correct or affect anything? Betfred and Paddy Power are FAR more reliable-it costs them if they fuck up, whereas (like the Millennium Bug, like 2015, like Brexit and like the Sinclair C5)…these pseudoquax in the soft snakes belly rune loon pants-are PUBLIC SECTOR dependents.
      No-since 1979, only two things
      a) The respective Leaders polling
      b) Who`s going to be better with your money.
      May wins on both counts-and has done so since she became Tory Leader.
      Labour makes the mess, Tories clear it up and only get booted out again if they messed up on the economy(thank you Major!)…or the electorate have forgotten re the “no money left” note of Liam Byrnes. They haven`t.
      Only other poll that tells us anything will be the exit poll at 10pm Thursday-so until then,mess with lefty heads, store up your settlement on the BBC and Libdumpsters, mock the Green, love God and Trump and demand a vicious Brexit, get those gallows polished for Friday.

         31 likes

    • RJ says:

      You’re forgeting that although we do the voting they do the counting. They have had two years to teach staff across the country the new arithmetic tried out last time in Thanet.

         32 likes

    • Doublethinker says:

      Agree something very odd seems to have happened very suddenly in thepolls

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  17. Minion says:

    Did anyone else notice how AL-BeeB on the lefty news channel went over the top telling us that the police used 50 rounds of ammo to stopped these bas@@@@s ,,FFS would it matter if they had used 150 to stop them, but as normal AL-BeeB tries to turn it around to make out the Muslim terroists were the innocent party.

       43 likes

    • RJ says:

      So all 3 died a natural death.

      If you’re shot 16 times you’re naturally going to die.

         36 likes

      • gaxvil says:

        So much more humane than beheading with a steak knife, burning alive or crucifixion.

           30 likes

    • Al Shubtill says:

      When I heard al Beebus making mileage yesterday out of the number of rounds fired during this er…”sequence of unfortunate events”; it brought to mind the response of the SAS soldier at the inquest into the deaths of the Muslim terrorists killed in the Iranian Embassy hostage crisis, when he was asked why he’d shot one of the hostage-takers so many times?

      “I ran out of bullets.”

      That should be the response of any police officers asked the same of the number of “50 rounds” used to kill these Muslims.

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    • Pounce says:

      All three wore fake suicide vests, police will have ensured that the idiots are dead. We saw this at Stocktwell tube .If the weapons were on semi automatic, that’s 3 rounds,, and due to the movement of the barrel not all will hit the target. We already know that one missed and hit a bystander, so the real question should be how many actually hit.i

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      • Up2snuff says:

        In an underground train, I understand the chance of ricochet is much higher. The excessive number of rounds fired there might be attributed to the stress & tiredness of one of the officers. Both were lucky not to kill themselves as well as passengers.

        Pounce, you are the bloke to check this with: is it right, that in training, you are taught to fire rounds in pairs, varying the target point, and to NOT empty your magazine indiscriminately, just in case one of your targets is still alive enough to move and then take a pop at you?

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        • dafydd says:

          Best to fire two rounds at a time, double tap and then move, try not to become a target

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    • dafydd says:

      …they should have shot them in the legs to immobilise them and then cut there heads off with a rusty knife, thats there preferred way of dealing with people, an eye for an eye etc, give them a taste of there own medicine ..bastards

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      • Ian Rushlow says:

        In British India, troublemakers were sewn into pig-skins and tied to the mouths of cannons. Apparently body bits with piggy smell don’t make it into Paradise. Helped concentrate the minds of would-be jihadist warriors.

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  18. Sinniberg says:

    Radio 2 @ 10 ‘o’ Clock News.

    “Islamist Militants”.

    No, I think you’ll find that it was Islamic Terrorists.

       44 likes

    • Thoughtful says:

      I’m not sure that it matters a great deal, however a terrorist by definition is someone with a set of political objectives which he wishes to achieve by means of violence.
      Perhaps you might like to tell us the political demands these Jihadis had in mind?

      Personally I do not believe that they are terrorists at all. They are not interested in negotiating they have no objectives other than to kill as many non believers as they can, and that’s about it. It’s difficult to know what to call them, however they did appear to have had military training which the security services must have known about (or should have) so perhaps militants is indeed appropriate?

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  19. shelly says:

    Sorry this has nothing to do with the Al beeb, but seeing the culture secretary getting her arse handed to her by Piers Morgan this morning over the lack of armed police, made me realise quite how stupid our politicians really are.

    Surely she must have known the way the interview was going to go. He badgered her to admit there are less police on the streets and that when the appeaser was home secretary she accused a member of the police federation of scaremongering over cutting police numbers.

    She refused to answer, but a quick google on her phone before going on would have handed her a credible retort, i.e. France has more police per head of capita and they are routinely armed, but this did not stop Charlie Hebdo, Nice or an elderly Catholic Priest getting stabbed at morning Mass, by Islamist nutters. It was a woeful performance and handed Morgan an easy target. Instead of standing her ground she looked weak and evasive.

    It took me seconds to get that info off the internet, and while I know you can’t always believe what you read on the web, at least it would have given her some breathing space and a credible response to Morgan, who by the way, was vehemently oppose to Guantanamo Bay. Not sure what His solution is, but she could have hit back at him with that one too.

    We really are being governed by Donkey’s at the moment, the notable exception being David Davis, why the hell he isn’t leader I will never know.

    Seriously Corbyn with Abbott riding shotgun, or Teresa May on Friday morning…What a choice !!!

       27 likes

    • Roland Deschain says:

      One gets the distinct impression the Tories aren’t actually interested in winning.

         17 likes

      • chrisH says:

        Said it many times Roland. The Lefts desperation for power, our money and media hegemony drives them FAR more than the right.
        These people on the left can do nothing more than grub, groom and grasp for money and influence-what else could they do?
        What parallel universe has a role for a Thornberry or Abbott, a Huhne or a Grayling?

        That the Tories haven`t finished off the worst run of Labour pillbox pinheads since 2003 only shows how far removed from this nations thinking they`ve been. But been lucky so far.
        The New Nasties of the Left are already getting juiced on REAL nastiness, evils and have our kids captive…and have done this since 1967 bit by bit.
        This is dangerous anti-politics, great fun to have Brexit and a Trump. Less funny when the left find their serious Sanders, Corbyn or a Macron with his tried and tested goons and street thugs.
        We`re very close to it-if the BBC and education are not defanged pronto, and Islam not put in its coffin as a social force-then we`ll live to see it.
        Eurozone-Venezuela-Izzard and Tariq Ramadan-five years tops.

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    • Fedup says:

      Shelly,
      The party of law and order bent under pressure from the MSM every time some gang member got shot by police to cut down on armed police ( remember) . As well as armed coppers being subject to Politically correct court cases and vocal civil liberty lawyers ( haven’t heard many of them in the last two weeks have we ? Even Shabi has been quiet).
      So apart from duty, why be an armed copper ? I normally support the tories in the absence of any one better but by going liberal we are now paying the price with armed coppers probably working too many hours.

      The idea that labour ever cared about police numbers is a joke.

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  20. StewGreen says:

    BBC Pet issues prioritising “so called refugees” above other people
    Coming up at 12:15 A woman will discussing how proud she is to raise money for refugees phone credits .
    12:15 R4 Phone-in How has fundraising changed your life? 03 700 100 444
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b08sks12

    Now on 12pm news
    R4 find a RANDOM person caught up in the LB attack : A bakery worker hit an attacker with a crate.
    “His words are spoken by a translator”
    … Jesus how can you be working safely in the UK if you don’t speak English ?
    Seems whenever something happens the word goes up thru the BBC find a “random” to put in front of the mic.

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  21. Beeb Brother says:

    The BBC programme about the Met is good. Of course they have to race bait. They interview some moron who says the Police should have better intelligence to know when there is about to be a shooting, rather than coming in all heavy handed when there has been one; and he complains of how he hates being stopped and searched when he has nothing to hide. This victim mentality is so toxic.

    What about just not shooting people? What about working hard at school rather than just wanting an easy life of crime? Who cares about being stopped and searched if you have nothing to hide? Bloody BBC always giving a platform to these scumbags. Maybe if you had a job to go to and weren’t hanging around all day the Police would leave you alone. Wear a suit and tie and go to an office between 9 and 5 and I am sure you will be bothered less by the Police. Take some responsibility for f**k’s sake.

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  22. gaxvil says:

    Theresa must spend a fortune replacing shoes with worn heels – all that time she spends on the back foot.

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    • gaxvil says:

      I’m beginning to think that our only hope will be a benign invasion and occupation by the Yanks.
      Because, sure as eggs is eggs, our fuckers have neither a clue nor the will.

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  23. BRISSLES says:

    Corbyn seems to have toned his voice down. He’s currently on answering questions in a slow and measured manner, and he’s practically whispering ! Has he been taking media training ???

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    • gaxvil says:

      Medication?

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    • Fedup says:

      Yes Brissles- definitely – like getting McDonald to smile when he’s talking about dismantling the British State. You can see that smiling is not a natural act for him. Don’t think they’ve managed to get either of them to kiss any lefty offspring yet. Two days to go…

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    • StewGreen says:

      Tell me how old Corbyn will e at the end of the next parliament

      …. 73

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    • Up2snuff says:

      Laryngitis, caught on a visit to the BBC?

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  24. gaxvil says:

    MSNBC – SURPRISE! SUPRISE!
    “….. is there a danger of over reacting to terrorist incidents?”

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    • Fedup says:

      Always a pleasure listening to yanks telling us about terrorism. Many seem to think there wasn’t any before their 9/11 and that the IRA campaign never happened. Obviously Corbin would prefer it that way. I’m sad that so many are unaware of the poison he and his friends ( livingstone – Shabi – Diane ) spread in those GLC days. Albeeb and the lefty state education system depend on ignorance or amnesia.

      Our solders and their families (and the police and innocent victims) won’t be forgetting any time soon.

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      • ID says:

        Fedup

        Yes, the malign influence of the Kennedies, Teddy and Jean in particular, seem to have been completely forgotten. TK supported the Troops Out movement, said that Unionists who did not want a united Ireland should return to Britain and backed Noraid. It was only after 9/11 that Bush stopped Noraid funds flowing to the IRA. A major blow. I think it was Blair, who else?, who put Teddy Kennedy forward for an honorary knighthood.

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  25. An English Gentleman says:

    Just watched the latest Theresa May speech………….Is she trying to lose this election on purpose, I wonder? The press core (inevitably we had to have a question from Kuenssberg) was just as bad asking all the usual left wing questions and she was playing the usual politician’s game.

    Well, we find out that the positive action she is taking is to form a ‘committee’ to deal with the problem of radicalisation…….Wow, that will have the 30,000 islamic possibles quaking in their boots.

    Not one of the press was able to think of a genuine question such as ‘Are you going to arm the police?’ ‘Are you going to prosecute these creatures waving the isis flags at demos?’ for example.

    Instead we have the usual anti trump comments and loaded questions.

    I also see the bbbc are now going into their usual mode of letting us see muslim victims and the usual comments about islamophobia etc.

    Everyone falling over themselves to say how marvelous the 8 minute response time was Err, I don’t think so. If anyone out there has waited 8 minutes for police assistamce (believe me, I have) 8 minutes is an incredibly long time – don’t forget this incident was right in the centre of London Had these creatures the brains to work out that they could commit far more damage going to a rural town, the response time there would be 20 minutes.

    Plus, of course the bbbc are relentlessly giving comrade corbyn an easy ride………

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  26. Beeb Brother says:

    Just saw Mark Steyn on Fox News. He says one of the London killers had been on a BBC documentary about jihad. We could have a field day if that proves to be true.

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  27. gaxvil says:

    We are so under the thumb, even wholly justifiable British military action against ISIS overseas just does not get a mention.
    Or is it just reconnaissance or have we stopped that for fear of criticism?

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  28. dafydd says:

    .. Corbyn has just been interviewed and said that May should resign because of her reduction in police numbers..

    and I say Corbyn should be prosecuted for his links and continued links with Terror groups

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    • StewGreen says:

      Unbelievable that on BBC Radio they reported the Labour statement seriously
      … Yeh like as if 4 days before the election the PM is going to say “yes Corbyn, you are right, I resign”

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  29. Sir_Arthur_Strebe-Grebling says:

    The bBBC today is echoing Labour’s message that we need more Police, and that May is at fault for actions when she was Home Secretary. No mention of the would-be Home Secretary Diane Abbott, who has no idea of police numbers.
    But in any case the answer is not more police; it is fewer Muslims.

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    • Lobster says:

      I’m sure that Diane Abbott would recruit lots more police – after all, they only cost about £80 per annum each don’t they?

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    • JimS says:

      I’m afraid that is beyond the politicians’ understanding.

      During the Irish ‘troubles’ far more troops were deployed there than active IRA members and the security experts now talk in terms of needing a 12:1 ratio to keep tabs on the jihadists, let alone the ‘police on the streets’.

      Mark Steyn has been making the valid point that the Irish ‘problem’ was limited in numbers and locations, there were only a certain number of IRA supporters and they were largely confined to the UK. However the new ‘troubles’ are ‘global’ and we are importing more and more potential participants daily. Not only that some will see it as ‘cool’ to join in as a ‘convert’.

      Imagine if during the ‘troubles’ we had started importing lots of young male ‘refugees’ from the global Irish diaspora – “the troubles have nothing to do with Irish republicanism”.

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    • Banania says:

      “…the answer is not more police; it is fewer Muslims.”
      In a nutshell! How long before our masters realize that obvious truth?

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  30. Pounce says:

    50 years ago today. War erupted in the Middle East when Israel attacked her neighbours. The left use this so called pre-emptive strike to illuminate to all just how evil the state of Israel is and thus substantiate their hatred of Israel. The bBC’s Middle East editor Jeremy Bowen has knocked out a huge article of the Six Day war. But as this is the bBC it omits vast amounts of information in which to paint their picture of Jewish Zionist aggression. As this article is so long, I will break down my posts in which to keep it manageable:
    1967 war: Six days that changed the Middle East
    Mr Bowen write’s
    Palestinians call 1948 “al-Nakba”, or “the Catastrophe”. Up to 750,000 Palestinians fled or were expelled from the land that became Israel, and were never allowed back.
    The left, particularly the bBC keep on screaming about the 700,000 Arabs who were kicked out of Israel . Just to keep things simple lets say that everybody was kicked out by the Jews that’s 700K.
    If that is so, why doesn’t the left mention this
    “At the end of World War II, 850,000 Jews lived in Arab countries. Just 8,500 remain today. Their departure was no accident. “
    The thing is the move to expel Jews from their own homelands didn’t just start in 1948, it had started years before.
    “The first large-scale exoduses took place in the late 1940s and early 1950s, primarily from Iraq, Yemen and Libya. In these cases over 90% of the Jewish population left, despite the necessity of leaving their property behind”
    More Jews were kicked out of their home countries by Muslims than Palestinians in Israel. Two wrongs don’t make a right, yet it would help the story if the bBC actually mentioned that salient part.

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    • Lucy Pevensey says:

      Pounce you set me off!

      Happy Jerusalem day to the Israelis.
      Israel is an inspiration. I hope our people can finally find the backbone to fight for their own existence.
      From a non-BBC source:

      A combination of bellicose Arab rhetoric, threatening behaviour and, ultimately, an act of war left Israel no choice but preemptive action. To do this successfully, Israel needed the element of surprise. Had it waited for an Arab invasion, Israel would have been at a potentially catastrophic disadvantage.

      While Nasser continued to make speeches threatening war, Arab terrorist attacks grew more frequent. In 1965, 35 raids were conducted against Israel. In 1966, the number increased to 41. In just the first four months of 1967, 37 attacks were launched.

      Meanwhile, Syria’s attacks on Israeli kibbutzim from the Golan Heights provoked a retaliatory strike on April 7, 1967, during which Israeli planes shot down six Syrian MiGs. Shortly thereafter, the Soviet Union — which had been providing military and economic aid to both Syria and Egypt — gave Damascus information alleging a massive Israeli military buildup in preparation for an attack. Despite Israeli denials, Syria decided to invoke its defense treaty with Egypt.

      On May 15, Israel’s Independence Day, Egyptian troops began moving into the Sinai and massing near the Israeli border. By May 18, Syrian troops were prepared for battle along the Golan Heights.

      Nasser ordered the UN Emergency Force, stationed in the Sinai since 1956, to withdraw on May 16. Without bringing the matter to the attention of the General Assembly, as his predecessor had promised, Secretary-General U Thant complied with the demand. After the withdrawal of the UNEF, the Voice of the Arabs proclaimed (May 18, 1967):

      “As of today, there no longer exists an international emergency force to protect Israel. We shall exercise patience no more. We shall not complain any more to the UN about Israel. The sole method we shall apply against Israel is total war, which will result in the extermination of Zionist existence.”

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    • Pounce says:

      Mr Bowen then tries to apologise for the Arab loss by painting the Jews as the best of the best:
      “In a report on the Israeli army in January 1967, the British defence attaché in Tel Aviv assessed that “in command, training, equipment and services the Israel army is more prepared for war than ever before. Well-trained, tough, self-reliant, the Israeli soldier has a strong fighting spirit and would willingly go to war in defence of his country.”
      And
      “Western powers had no doubt which side in the Middle East was stronger on the eve of war in 1967. The US military’s Joint Chiefs of Staff judged “that Israel will be militarily unchallengeable by any combination of Arab states at least during the next five years.”
      And the Arabs as only poor soldiers:
      “It came to a head with a full-scale air and artillery battle between Israel and Syria on 7 April, 1967. Israel routed the Syrians.”
      Really here is a list of just what Syria got up to April 11th 1967. (Taken from the same source Bowen uses for the sizes of the Israeli and Arab militaries . )

      And
      Egyptian forces and those of its ally Syria, trained less, boasted more and forgot that the political victory that emerged after the 1956 Suez crisis was preceded by a military defeat.

      Trained less, Egypt not only had been fighting a war in Yemen since 1962 and But still had 35,000 troops in country in 1967. In fact he pulled back 15,000 to make up for the Six day war losses.
      syria.jpg

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      • Pounce says:

        The article then displays the following figures for the sizes of the different sides, Bowen uses the following for the information. Really, because when I looked up those stats from that very book, the figures given for the Arabs are almost twice as large, whilst the Israeli ones remain the same. Why would the bBC downsize the Arab armies for the biggest defeat they have ever suffered.
        arab.jpg
        jew.jpg
        and the original article from where the bBC states it gleaned those facts:

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        • Pounce says:

          Bowen writes:
          “Israel and the Palestinians felt the biggest consequences of the 1967 war. Israel began an occupation of the Palestinian territories that continues half a century later. It annexed East Jerusalem and the Golan Heights, in moves not recognised internationally. Military occupation is by definition oppressive. The occupation has created a culture of violence that cheapens life and brutalises the people who impose and enforce the occupation and those who fight it.”

          Here is something the left, the bBC and Bowen leave out:
          “On June 19, 1967, the National Unity Government [of Israel] voted unanimously to return the Sinai to Egypt and the Golan Heights to Syria in return for peace agreements. The Golans would have to be demilitarized and special arrangement would be negotiated for the Straits of Tiran. The government also resolved to open negotiations with King Hussein of Jordan regarding the Eastern border.”
          In September at the Khartoum Arab conference the Arabs gave their reply: (known as the 3 Nos)
          “No peace, no recognition and no negotiation with Israel”

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          • Pounce says:

            Regards the six day war. With over 1/2 million Arab soldiers waiting on the borders to invade, Israel could not allow itself to wait for them to attack. So got the first punch in.

            The irony here is Egypt actually had its own Pre-emptive strike planned for Jews. called Operation Dawn set to strike on May 27th . This was to be followed up by ground invasion .

            Fortunately for Israel , The Russians believed the cat was out of the bag so with that they sent the Russian ambassador Dmitri Pojidaev to knock on Nassers door in the middle of the night/morning of the 26/27. (hours before H hour) Nasser rushed to his Supreme HQ and warned Gen Abdel Hakim Amer (Minister of defence) to stop the countdown as the jews knew and were ready for them.

            By some stroke of luck all this was incorrectly substantiated by the capture that morning of 5 senior Egyptian officers privy to the invasion plan and reports of 500 IDF vehicles moving towards the Egyptian stronghold of Kuntilla. (Where the IDF had broken through in 1956)

            Funny how the Left and the bBC never mention the above.

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        • gb123 says:

          Pounce, Bowen is playing a sneaky. He is only showing the totals for Jordan, Syria and Egypt as combatants. He is ignoring the others even though they were part of the threat but chickened out at the possibility of real fighting.

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          • Pounce says:

            Pounce, Bowen is playing a sneaky. He is only showing the totals for Jordan, Syria and Egypt as combatants. He is ignoring the others even though they were part of the threat but chickened out at the possibility of real fighting.

            Not exactly true, in the fighting for the West Bank could be found the Iraqi 8th Mechanised Brigade supported by a Palestinian battalion.

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            • Al Shubtill says:

              Solide posts Pounce.

              You briefly mention the USS Liberty in one of them, regarding Bowen’s book, I think there may be many readers of this site, who will be unaware of what befell that ship; maybe you could describe it with your customary flair for detail? Especially since 2017 will be the 50th anniversary of the incident.

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              • LynetteO says:

                The BBC bias at the time of the 6 day war was astounding. In fact the BBC served as the main instrument of the Arab information services during the 6 Day War. The Arab accounts of the progress of the war were utterly different to the events themselves.

                The Egyptian air force was said to be wreaking havoc in Tel Aviv , Haifa and Netanya but in fact no city received a bomb or any other attack by Egypt. According to an Arab communiqué the Israeli air force lost 160 planes on the first day alone. In fact the Israeli air force came through with a loss of 19 planes in the 6 days. Two or three days after the Israeli forces had overwhelmed the mass of Egyptian armour and tens of thousands of Egyptian soldiers had given themselves up or fled towards the Suez canal, reports were still being made of gigantic tank battles in the Sinai desert with huge losses on the Israeli side.

                The BBC publicly repeated even the most improbable of the Arab reports and severely censored the only version of events – from its reporter in Jerusalem that – corresponded to the truth. Television and radio listeners were convinced that the war was going well for Egypt and Jordan and badly for Israel and by the second day it seemed certain that Israel was on the brink of defeat.
                (from Battleground Fact and Fantasy in Palestine by Samuel Katz updated edition 1985 )

                Many hours after the commanding officer of the Israeli air force had announced the destruction of the Egyptian Air force, British newspapers were still debating whether Britain could stand aside and see Israel destroyed.
                ( Randolf S Churchill and Winston S Churchill The Six day war ( London 1967 ) Chapter 8 and appendix1)

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  31. gaxvil says:

    Facebook, Apple, Google etc., think that our privacy is worth dying for. Well, at least their CEOs in their secure mansions and armoured cars think so.
    Threaten them with blocking, as China does, they would quickly re-think their high and mighty opinions.

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  32. Beeb Brother says:

    I thought it could not get any more farcical than when the Beeb reported on selfless Muslim taxi drivers picking up young girls from the Manchester concert, the week after that harrowing film about the grooming scandal was aired.

    Now it turns out that one of the London Bridge killers was on a documentary called The Jihadi Next Door. Could you get any more blatant? He is on national television telling the world how much he hates us. We just sit and do nothing and wait until he slaughters us.

    May says we have to toughen up and become less tolerant of extremism. Well you cannot get any more farcically tolerant than we have been. Wow – how did he slip through the net? What underground ‘network’ was he part of? Channel 4! All MI5 needed to do was stay in and watch tv and they would have known about him.

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  33. chrisH says:

    Fail to see how ANYTHING that Corbyn says can be relied upon.
    If a bloke can`t even sit on a Virgin train without lying about how occupied his carriage is-then what hope have we for anything resembling truth?
    No dount one of his 72 Virgins as promised to useful(in his case useless) idiots like Corbyn-by the Caliphate.
    Hennaed beard next for Creepy Corbyn.

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  34. nogginator says:

    BBC Today has a vomit inducing drone from their security expert,” ironsides “himself Frank
    “where s me Koran” Gardiner on Prevent strategy 1hr 30
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b08sks0t

    DP has more airtime for Nazir Afzal, and the chocolate fireguard of , “Prevent”
    Prevent apart from a couple of areas, is totally ineffectual, and not because it isn t erm
    … reaching out to communities, said community believes it should be above our law
    doesn t accept our laws, this inducement crap, is pointless
    … they ll take the inducements, and laugh at you
    Allowing Islamic groups,(as Islam aim is political power) to have a degree of the power in
    Prevent is a key failure, their only interest is manipulating it to put blocks in place to stop effectiveness
    and make No10 go cap in hand to them, needs a 180% turn in activity.

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  35. Kaiser says:

    nice to see manchester carrying on as normal

    came off the train this morning … greeted by 3 police officers with machine guns

    machine guns just let that sink in

    my partners dad is an retired ex bobby he was armed with a truncheon and a pointy hat,

    oh how our multi-cultural society has progressed what an improvement it is.

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  36. StewGreen says:

    You know we keep importing these kids aspiring to be lawyers and doctors
    Times : “Record number of lawyers in country”
    Now 175,000 when in 1979 there were 36,000, and 115K in 2009 (thats a 50% increase in 8 years !)
    Like that’s 5 times as many ..at a time when so much law stuff is automated
    Women make up 62%
    But at higher levels 40% of men make it to partner
    ..and only 20% of women
    same for BME .But .remember BME population is skewed towards youth , so most of them haven’t been in the career long enough yet.

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    • GCooper says:

      I wouldn’t be surprised if we have seen an identical increase in the number of cockroaches. There is probably a correlation between the decline of a nation and the increase of either of these two species.

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    • Expat John says:

      I’ll bet they’re all ‘ooman rites’ lawyers, too.
      All aboard the gravy train with Mr. Shiner….

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    • Ian Rushlow says:

      A nation of laws being replaced by a nation of lawyers…
      But it would be interesting to know how many of these are ‘fake lawyers’, concerned with ‘uman rights and diversity disease rather than, say, commerical law, family law, criminal law, property, disputes etc.

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  37. Al Shubtill says:

    As a fellow poster mentioned further up this thread, here is Mark Steyn on Fox today discussing the latest London Jihad attack and the response to it.

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    • MartinW says:

      Yet again, Mark Steyn is spot on. It only goes to highlight the fact that NO voices like his are allowed by the BBC, ITV, C4 or any of the so-called main media to be broadcast. Unless the new May government gets tough, we are truly stuffed. But we contributors to this site can make a difference by constant pressure on her, her government, our own MP, media organisations and individual spokesmen (by the way, that’s a general term – like mankind – that encompasses both men and women), and so on. It is also high time that root & branch changes are forced on the BBC (I won’t hold my breath).

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      • GCooper says:

        From the noises being made by Mrs May I’d have said it was more likely that the BBC will get worse, not better.

        When she uses the word ‘extremist’ I can’t help wondering how long blogs like this can last.

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        • Lucy Pevensey says:

          GCooper,
          I had the same reaction upon hearing May frame the internet. U-oh! It’s the likes of us they will target. Not terrorists. (I so want to be wrong about that)

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          • GCooper says:

            Likewise -= and it’s one of the reasons why I will not vote for her party this week. She, and the kind of Conservatives she surrounds herself with, are part of the problem.

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            • Demon says:

              I’m voting Conservative to try and stop the Corbyn Bandwagon. May is a poor choice of Prime Minister but Corbyn will be far worse. If he and his extremist allies in the other left-wing parties get in then there will definitely be a ban, probable prosecution and possible imprisonment for many of the comments expressed on this site. Real extremism, whether Islamic or leftist will be allowed but not anything expressing a view from the right, nor even the centre, that’s remotely critical of “The Project”.

              It probably sounds alarmist but that it how I see it: any vote for any party other than Conservative – even UKIP – is a vote for a socialist hell future. Back in the EU and never a proper election again probably. Every election I worry about this more as the left have infested all the institutions which has allowed them to become bolder and oblivious to sites like this pointing out their infringements on our liberties. Despite her past May must win or we’re all doomed, doomed.

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              • taffman says:

                Demon
                “The lesser of two evils”

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                • Demon says:

                  Agreed taffman. I voted UKIP at the last two elections and was going to vote Conservative this time as UKIP is currently a mess and May should be made to deliver full Brexit, and is the only one who can. Full Brexit will not happen under a left-wing government – they are planning to accept the worst possible deal whilst still being subject to EU laws. I am more determined to vote for May’s candidate (he’ll get in anyway) and hold my nose as it’s getting as close as I predicted at the start of the campaign.

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        • theisland says:

          GC – But WE are just normal!!!!

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          • G.W.F. says:

            I often think that May sees the extremist threat as those who counter the BBC and her sharia compliant multiculty objectives. And this is why MI5 and the security service are not bothered about following up reports of Islamic extremists

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            • ToobiWan says:

              G.W.F.
              When Teresa the appeaser talks about combatting extremism, she isn’t talking about the sort of extremism that is on the curriculum in the mosqes and madrassas. It’s the likes of Tommy Robinson and the “far” right, aka patriots that are the ones in her sights!

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  38. dafydd says:

    ..Our potential Prime Minister….Comments from within his own party,interesting article.

    JEREMY Corbyn was accused of “disturbing behaviour” last night after admitting attending a wreath-laying ceremony for a Palestinian terrorist.
    The Labour leader visited a cemetery in 2014 in Tunisia where PLO terrorists – including one involved in the 1972 Munich Olympics massacre are buried.
    Last night Jewish groups – already angered by Labour’s stance on anti-Semitism – erupted in fury.
    Jennifer Gerber of Labour Friends of Israel – which represents 100 Labour peers and former MPs who are currently trying to be re-elected – told the Daily Telegraph: “It is almost unbelievable that any Labour MP would participate in a ceremony honouring a man involved in the vicious murder of innocent Israeli athletes.

    “Unfortunately, this appears to be part of a very disturbing pattern of behaviour and we are seeking urgent clarification from the Leaders office on this matter.”

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  39. Lucy Pevensey says:

    So-called ‘ Post Brexit Skills Shortage ‘ back in the BBC spotlight again today!
    We don’t have enough bearded bomb-making specialists I suppose.
    The poor Muslims are having to use knives & lorries.

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  40. RGP says:

    http://www.middleeasteye.net/ <—- Middle East Eye is a project per someone from the Guardian, so, they've certainly got a liberal slant. Also cover some articles one might not see in other places but I don't think they had the London attack as the main story once this weekend.

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  41. Stella2 says:

    I haven’t posted much on here recently for the simple reason that I only ever expose myself to the BBC’s so-called “News” by accident these days. I actively swerve “the narrative”. The destruction of a once-enviable news service is too depressing.

    However, husband had Radio 3 on in the car, and the “News” headlines were unavoidable. The naked bias is even worse that I imagined!

    “Here is the BBC News. The Prime Minister has been *forced to defend herself* after the London terror attack. Theresa May has been *strongly criticised* over police cuts. Labour’s Jeremy Corbyn has said that she is *responsible for the attacks* and should resign.”

    SEE WHAT THEY DID THERE? Of course we can, but what about all the woolly thinkers and snowflakes, can they see how a supposedly impartial news service made it May 0, Corbyn 4? Naturally, Mr Corbyn is not “forced to defend” his Cuban economics and everlasting support for terrorism. And yet, it was highly relevant to the comment he made about terrorism.

    Now, I am not a great fan of May (but unfortunately she is the best we have), but is there really no journalist who can see further back than yesterday? They know the bias, so why is no one from the Conservatives making the point that obviously May did not want to cut police numbers, it was all part of correcting Labour’s “No Money Left” situation? And reminding everyone that if anyone from the Tories is to blame it is that snake in the grass Osborne who cut the funds, to her fury at the time. Lack of judgement again? To let the BBC walk all over them like this at a critical time is simply astounding.

    When all this is over, there HAS to be some kind of reckoning with the BBC’s politicisation.

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  42. Pullyourselftogether says:

    I agree with you Stella2. May is the best of a bad bunch. I’m not a huge fan but it was Osborne that cut the funding not her. How the hell can Corbyn tell her to resign over this. He was asked to go TWICE by his own party with a vote of No Confidence. The thought of Abacus as Home Secretary, Rayner (Give It Me) as Education Secretary and Emily Thornberry as Foreign Secretary fills me with absolute dread.

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    • Stella2 says:

      Quite, Pull. I have no issue with May being judged on her record. The point is that Corbyn and Co are being given such a free pass for far worse.

      Are the Left in this country – and dominating the BBC – really so stupid and irrational that they can’t see the logical end of Corbyn’s game, when his creed has been shown as abject failure in every nation it has touched? How is that going to be good for any of us?

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  43. StewGreen says:

    The BBC who are the Kings of Misrepresentation cry “Misrepresentation” again
    ..Against who ?? Trump of course

    Their new head of Media reporting AmolRajanbbc’s Twitter feed is an obsessive cesspit against Trump
    Lets recap Sunday morning Sadiq Khan gave a 5 min interview on Sky, which had at Min3:17 “I am reassured that London is one of the safest cities in the world, if not THE safest”
    and min 3 after speaking about extra police on street said “There is no reason to be alarmed”
    Interview Sentiment was very much “Do not be alarmed”
    Yet LibMob picked on that wording coming just after the speaking about extra police on street and asserted ..the alarmed bit only applies to the extra police
    Surely they are misrepresenting to try to just walk away without adding that Khan also said “London is one of the safest cities in the world, if not THE safest” so that entire sentiment was “Do not be alarmed”
    Trumps only got 128 characters, so of course he can’t quote the entire interview, just the sentiment.

    Anyway Amol was already on his crusade against Trump before the attack started


    Then on Sunday

    Currently over 52,000 retweets for Trump’s smear of an elected (Muslim) Mayor by quoting out of context, at a time of high tensions. Imagine

    Genuinely interested to know if Trump realised he was misrepresenting Sadiq – i.e. whether malice or stupidity behind that astonishing tweet

    commenter puts forward a conspiracy theory about bots being a reason for Trumps popularity on Twitter and Amol just accepts it “You KNOW that Trump’s crowd use Bots to inflate their Tweets, right?
    Amol replied : Yes. I did a report for the Ten O’Clock News on @BBCNews about this. Thank you.

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    • StewGreen says:

      Yorshire post has a piece on Brendan Coxes view on the attack
      Why air him ?

      And then it quotes the Sadiq interview
      “increased police..no need to be alarmed by this” ..I just checked the Yorkshire post has added extra words in , there is not “by this” in the video
      Same for the rest ..the words the YP writes are not the same as in the vdeo even though they used quotation marks.

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    • Guest Who says:

      Amol was second reserve when Paul Mason couldn’t be tempted back as he felt the BBC to be a right wing coup nest.

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    • StewGreen says:

      Amol just fired up yet another Tweet about Trump and the matter
      After Trump made a second tweet
      but I make this Amol’s 7th tweet about Trumps tweet

      Of Amol’s last 20 Tweets 11 have been anti Trump
      Does that reflect a true perspective on media
      (I don’t think Amol tweeted at all about the beheading anti Trump photo stunt)

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    • GCooper says:

      Rajan’s employment by the BBC is just one more sign of the gutter they sweep. Just another boilerplate Lefty with the added advantage of ticking the token box.

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  44. Beeb Brother says:

    The World at One kept banging on about May’s cuts to the Police being to blame, as they do not have the resources to catch the bad guys. They are so shameless. This is not ‘news’ it is just Left wing propaganda.

    How about letting them use stop and search on anyone they like and not having to waste endless hours filling in paper work to show the search was ‘reasonable’ and recording the ethnicity of those they searched? We should just trust the Police to keep us safe – the criminal justice system is massively tilted in favour of offenders anyway, which is one hell of a safety net. They are overwhelmingly good people risking their lives to keep us safe – we should trust them to just get on with their jobs without having to justify everything they do. How many hours, millions and lives would be saved if their hands were not tied through politicisation of their work, which was cheerleaded by far left loons like Al Beeb? We had the farcical situation during the riots when the Police just stood and did nothing right in front of offenders, such are the constraints lefty lunatics have placed them under.

    Over and over through the programme they asked if they had enough resources. Well, who helped usher in this glorious world of all cultures are equal, anything goes insanity? Then they have the audacity to blame the other side when the inevitable chaos ensues.

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    • Beltane says:

      Plus the part the LibDems and Clegg in particular played in reducing police numbers and limiting sensible legislation during the ‘coalition’ – but if it’s not mentioned, it might go away.

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      • Stella2 says:

        And Corbyn and Abbott want to slash funding for the military and intelligence services. Where is the logic in the BBC’s campaign? So fed up with this irrationality – and smugness.

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        • Guest Who says:

          It’s bonkers. No challenge to endless promises and threats based on simply not being in power and needing to make the sums add up, much less question the near daily exposes of opportunistic hypocrisy.

          They are all as bad. I can only presume Jez’ honey trappers have footage of Adam Walrus of Sky in bed with Emily and Di.

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  45. Thoughtful says:

    Funny how the BBC and other leftie media outlets don’t want to criticise Ariana Grande over her horrible attitude, and I know there has been quite a few comments posted about her comments here, but not this one I think, when back in 2014 Ariana said she wished her fans would “just F*****g die!”

    Pint-sized pop star Ariana Grande had a choice word for fans after a recent radio show visit: Die!

    Confidenti@l has learned that while visiting a Manhattan radio station this summer, the 21-year-old “Better Left Unsaid” singer should’ve left her thoughts unsaid.

    “She did autographs and pics and was all smiles until she got into the elevator,” a stunned industry insider tells us. “And as soon as the doors shut she said, ‘I hope they all f—king die.’ ”

    Allegations of Grande’s obnoxious attitude are nothing new. But they’re suddenly getting their own spotlight now that a nasty pattern has emerged.

    http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/gossip/confidential/ariana-grande-diva-antics-poor-reviews-article-1.1940573

    One love? Seriously? With this much hate and anger inside her it seems that this horrible kid has had a very easy ride from the media, and a left wing which has somehow lost sight of what is right and what is wrong.

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  46. Beltane says:

    Another special moment, a few minutes ago. BBC News channel 130, BBC Election news 131, Sky 133, all showing Corbyn’s stirring and statesmanlike speech. Bias, what bias?

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    • Dysgwr_Cymraeg says:

      Have you noticed his voice level is lowered by 5 decibels on each successive interview?
      Someone has obviously told him the low voice portrays a caring analytical thoughful considerate brain.
      To me it says what a wanker for listening to idiots.

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  47. Jo says:

    Concrete barriers installed on London Bridge to remind commuters how defiant we are:

    ‘Stop adding to the chaos!’ Fury as cyclists moan about anti-terror barriers on bike lanes

    Like generals fighting the last war, our security services are always trying to prevent the last terrorist attack.

    Look, stupid, the next one will be somewhere else! The only thing we can be certain of is which group of primitive, superstitious fuckwits will be responsible. Put barriers around them instead – ask Israel.

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    • Guest Who says:

      I am presuming the logic of throwing folk out of hotels into the path of slash and burn loons was based on the Mumbai attacks more than several of the latest outings, so I am guessing these generals are actually even further behind the curve than you suggest.

      I guess it needs intel. Quick. AKs and RPGs make short work of bolt holes. Knives may struggle even at a Travelodge threshold.

      Trouble is, the establishment seems devoted more initially to not saying anything helpful or otherwise to maintain PC protocols.

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  48. Guest Who says:

    Bit of ‘balance from both sides…’

    http://medialens.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=848:the-bbc-has-betrayed-its-own-rules-of-impartiality-yemen-saudi-arabia-and-the-general-election&catid=55:alerts-2017&Itemid=249

    Now last night John Prescott tweeted his view too that the BBC was biased against St. Jez, and of course the momentum was unstoppable.

    Some brave soul nipped it all in the bud by suggesting that the BBC should no longer be immune from audience displeasure financially, at which point the back tracking was like an Italian army formation team.

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  49. StewGreen says:

    LibMob says “we can’t let terrorism divide us”

    5 minutes ago LibMob said “You lot are deniers, you Brexiteers are all racists, you are all far right, extreme right, white supremecists ” etc.

    BTW R4 panel show around 11:43 had an Irish comic Ed Byrne making an obligatory sneer at UKippers 17m40 s
    “the uncontrollable habit of saying embarrassing things , we have a word for that Ukipper”
    ha ha R4 studio audience clap like seals

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