Lord Hall Hall objected strongly to any suggestion that the BBC use a subscription fee method to generate its income saying such a system would be far too complicated and costly to implement. Curious then that the BBC has now been able to make iPlayer unavailable unless you register and have a licence…how difficult would that be to extend to an on demand payment system? Not very, after all large numbrs of other media outlets already do that…including Youtube.
I am guessing the BBC doesn’t want to do that because it would then be at the mercy of the paying customer who, if they didn’t like what was on offer, wouldn’t have to pay for it…such as blatanlty left-wing misinformation being pumped out as ‘news’.
Over the air digital tv could also be by subscription, not as if this is new and untried territory…SKY. Some Freeview channels are also by subscription…so obviously quite simple to operate such a scheme….if you want to. The BBC just doesn’t want to and obviously doesn’t have faith in its own product and with good reason.
I would suggest that if lord hall is unsure as to how to set up a subscription payment service then I would sugest that he should talk to any of the proffessional broadcasters as to how to organise a subscription payment model, If the professional sattelite and cable broadcasters like SKY, Netflix or Amazon can find it easy to organise a subscription service and have done so for many years then the odious BBC should find it easy to organise a subscription payment service for anyone who still wants the miserable BBC in their lives. Either that or the wretched BBC can be forced to pay for itself with advertising. To of course to be followed by the withdrawal and scrapping of the BBC licence fee, Though as far as I {and i suspect many others] the best thing that should be done with the BBC, which is a concept that has long out lived its purpose if it ever had any reason to have been created in the first place is its final and permanant closure and sell of of its assets.
Wouldn’t it be hilarious if the only bidder was Rupert “the Fox” Murdoch.
I don’t use BBCservices but they keep hassleing me to pay them . I didn’t hassle them to pay me for not taking anything of theirs over to the continent when I had trucks .
And why do they want to keep visiting me at my house ? All they’ll see is normal furniture and a television , connected ready to use , which proves nothing .
Nibor
Just do what I do when the BBC/TVL goons turn up on my doorstep is Identify and Ignore they are commision driven salesmen at £20 a pop to sell you a TV licence [Even then it wont garantee that you still wont get done for BBC viewing tax evasion] Remember unless they have a search warent and our joke of a police force the BBC/TVL goons #1Have no powers of entry and search and more important #2 You have no legal complusion to talk to them and not even to tell them that you have moved. So Identify and if A BBC/TVL goon Ignore and close door.
There are some interesting you tube entries on anti licence fee crusaders recording interactions with people from TVs licensing .
Personally I wouldn’t confront, identify myself or indeed speak to them.
They keep writing to me and telling me they are coming to interview me under caution . Won’t happen. Ever.
Jos F and Fedup ,
They had to leave me alone at my last address and don’t know I’ve moved . But now there is new hassle ( just letters) at my new address .
I’m considering writing to them to tell them to book their day in court to bust open their threat scam . I’ve got a television , it can show programmes , I don’t need a licence and won’t get one .
Nibor,
Apart from writing our objections to al beeb here and not paying their TV tax I suppose that’s all we can do .
Fedup ,
You and Jos F are right in how to deal with the TV licence goons ; no contact etc .
I would though , and I’m seriously considering having a tussle with them in the courts to effectively make it near impossible for them to enforce their payment ways .
N,
You might care to look at the Malicious Communications Acts 1988 and the Communications Act 2003. Use of both would involve the Police which will be free rather than contemplating any expensive litigation in the civil courts.
Suggest you write to the TV Licensing and state your position i.e. you don’t need a licence etc and add that if they continue to pester you, you will treat any correspondence from them, with threats, as falling under the 88 Act and, in that case, you will refer the matter to the Police. Obtain a Certificate of Posting from the Post Office (that will suffice for the courts).
G,
Those are good routes , and I did stop them hassling me at my old address .
My thoughts are to get them to take me to court and if when I win it would be a victory for everyone as they would be unable to use their current ways of extracting payment .
This is not speculation on my part . You may have noticed a change in their operations a few years back .
And don’t forget the option of serving a Cease & Desist Notice under The Harassment Act 1997, straight to Alison Roberts. Repeated breaches can then be reported to the Police.
U2S,
Sounds another good route .
Perhaps we need to list all the Acts and sub sections that are armoury in our court , the court of the common man .
Lord Hall Hall objected strongly to any suggestion that the BBC use a subscription fee method to generate its income saying such a system would be far too complicated and costly to implement.
Costly? To whom exactly? It’s costly NOW.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4657202/BBC-s-Lord-Hall-vows-Amazon-Netflix.html
Lucy Pevensey
“…..saying such a system would be far too complicated and costly to implement.”
Private companies manage to do it and make a good profit, while the Tory Government has failed to do anything about it.
I wonder how many would pay voluntarily for the BBC?
Any surveys on that?
With thee billion a year tax, you’d have thought that the bbbc would have enough dosh to work out for them selves how to become subscription-only.
The Tories, at the flick of a switch, could shut that tax down, pay the money to pensioners (funny how the sum is similar to winter fuel payments), and get a shed-load of votes into the bargain.
I don’t really know why I voted Tory recently, even that clown farting about at Glastonbury could do just as good a job at pissing off the country, but from then on, it would of course be utterly dire, and unions would tell me when I’m going to die.
Probably better to pay it to the NHS. Even then, LeftMob and the BBC and their friends in print media would be howling.
In those circumstances, if I was Chancellor, I’d say “Fine you can keep the Licence Fee but it becomes subject to Corporation Tax because you charge people twice or more for the same things in running your BBC business. Oh, and by the way, as the NHS has lost out on a much needed £3bn, I’m going to have to consider creating a special rate of NI for the high paid just to make up for it. Oh, and absolutely no more payments to service companies or off-shore. Is that OK?”
Of course Lord Hall is right to fear the impact of a subscription funded on the bloated BBC. It would make the BBC have to compete and take note of what the public wanted . which is the exact opposite of the way in which the BBC Molds public opinion at the present time. It ought not be up to the likes of Lord Hall to decide how the BBC is funded, it should be the government who makes that decision . On this site We constantly write of our amazement that the Tories allow the BBC to show extreme leftist bias across the whole of its output. Indeed many folks believe that the recent election result where young voters backed Corbyn and his leftist gangsters is the bitter fruit of forty years of left bias across the educational establishment and the media. Forcing a subscription funding model on the BBC would be a very sensible and necessary step in trying, at well past the eleventh hour, to correct the dire consequences of the last forty years . But the Tories are too scared of the BBC , or need them too much to keep the lid on the immigration / Islamification debate, to even allow Fox to increase its footprint in the country, let alone force a subscription model on the corporation. As long as the BBC is allowed free rein the centre of gravity in this country will continue to move leftwards.
DT,
“….continue to move leftwards.” And downwards!
Lord Hall Hall objected strongly to any suggestion that the BBC use a subscription fee method to generate its income saying such a system would be far too complicated and costly to implement.
As Mandy Rice-Davies said about Lord Astor: “Well. he would [say that], wouldn’t he?”
Her comment marked a great triumph for the individual over the vested interests, the kind of attitude which the BBC is desperate to ensure doesn’t happen with relation to them.
The BBC already operates a subscription service. In order to “…download or watch any BBC programmes on iPlayer – live, catch up or on demand” (see http://www.tvlicensing.co.uk/check-if-you-need-one), it is now necessary to pay an annual fee of £147. This is due to a change in the law, which was implemented in September 2016 and the implications of which are quite substantial.
Lord Tony Hall can feck off – he has spent a career working for the BBC and since 2013 has been the BBC Director General. He got a peerage out of it and oodles of taxpayers money.
Tony Hall and the BBC:
“After graduating from Oxford University, Hall joined the BBC as a trainee in 1973, initially working at its Belfast newsroom. He later worked as producer on Today, The World at One, The World Tonight, and PM. He became editor of the Nine O’Clock News at the early age of 34 and was appointed Director of BBC News and Current Affairs Television in 1990 and, combining TV and radio, became Director of News in 1993. He was Head of Current Affairs between 1996 and 2001.
Among his career achievements are the launch of BBC Parliament, Radio 5 Live, BBC News 24, and BBC News Online. In 1999 he applied unsuccessfully for the position of Director-General of the BBC, but was later successful, being appointed as BBC Director-General on 22 November 2012, and took office on 2 April 2013.”