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Another knife attack in Düsseldorf! Isn’t this enriching? I was planning to watch the football this weekend but it would feel improper not to throw a party to celebrate all this diversity.
They have the nerve to rant and rave for five days about perhaps a few dozen ‘white nationalists’, whilst this global, organised force is attacking us from every angle? They really are a disgrace. It almost feels providential that this would happen just after Charlottesville. That the Left can hyperventilate about Trump’s supposedly ‘insufficiently fast response’ to those events whilst they – our supposedly moral superior fourth estate – refuses to even name the true evil of our times? Where is their response? It is non-existent.
He is the only leader who will speak honestly about the problem and confront it. I bet they will sleep easier than us tonight in the US knowing they have Trump in charge.
BB,
I spent over 8 years living in Duss. The knife attack was actually in Wuppertal (about 15KMs away). According to the German police report.:
Around 14:45 clock, came from still unexplained cause between several men in a shop at the Kipdorf, in the Wuppertaler district Elberfeld, to the dispute. In the course of this, a 31-year-old man was mortally injured by Messerstiche. His 25-year-old brother was also so severely injured by Messerstiche that he had to be treated intensively in the hospital. Both injured parties are from Iraq. The perpetrators escaped from the crime scene. The search of a house in the Kipdorf, with the addition of special forces, did not lead to the discovery of the perpetrators. A murder commission was established. The investigations continue.
Messerstiche means stab wounds
In light of the rash of Islamic attacks across Europe has anybody heard of this most relevant story which the bBC reported yesterday:
Luton gun smuggling crime gang jailed
A “dominating bully” who led a gang which smuggled a machine gun, semi-automatic handguns and ammunition into the UK has been jailed for life. Muzaffer Ali, 39, from Maidenhall Road in Luton, Bedfordshire had denied importing prohibited weapons. Judge Jonathan Carroll told St Alban’s Crown Court the weapons were to be used for “terrorising, intimidating and causing serious injury and death”. Four other men were also jailed for their part in the gun smuggling.
So according to the bBC this was all the work of a domineering bully , the local rag thankfully reports this a lot better than the bBC does:
Luton firearm-gang locked up for more than 83 years
“FIVE Luton men have been sentenced to a combined total of more than 83 years behind bars for their roles in conspiring to import and distribute firearms into the UK.”
5 men get 83 years between them, so it must have been serious and yet after the leader of the Labour party claims we shouldn’t finger point at the Pakistani community, after the attacks in Barcelona and the resignation of the shadow equalities minister regards Pakistani Muslims, the bBC keeps a most relevant story off the front,second, third, forth and fifth pages.
Gee I wonder why?
Thanks for this pounce. Now, imagine what the BBC’s coverage would be if this was a ‘far right’ gang of whites.
Mair, the assassin of Jo Cox MP, only had some sort of homemade single shot pistol, and they made out he was the next Michael Ryan.
So Isis wants to kill westerners in the street.
Al beeb won’t mention anything about Isis/ Islam/Muslim illegals/ refugees .,
So each time these attacks happen we are mystified why it happened and everybody was full of love , pulled together and lit candles .
Still think albeeb is much happier attacking the confederacy & Trump .
It’s a shame there isn’t a decent military target to hit in response to these attacks
According to the beebistan ‘news’ at 9pm, all of Spain are asking Why?
Allow me to shed some light:
– because they’re muslims.
– because their ‘religion’ tells them to, i.e. their ‘scriptures’, their history, and their ‘imams’.
Simples.
Charlie,
This yahoo article explains a lot about Islam and Spain and their wish to bring it back to Islam:
Why did ISIS attack Barcelona? The history of Islam in Spain holds answers.
Charlie
According to the beebistan ‘news’ at 9pm, all of Spain are asking Why?
Answer: British foreign policy innit
Despite the fact that Spain really did dodge a bullet yesterday when the ISIS bomb factory which was going to supply a load of ISIS terrorists with the means to murder hundreds. The bBC informs me that the people of Barcelona see Islamic terrorists as nothing more than victims:
Spain attacks: How Barcelona rejected hate
Less than 24 hours after the horrific van attack, the people of Barcelona set out to reclaim their beloved city…Stop at a tree where a little stuffed toy had been placed among the candles and flowers, and you could make out the sound of several women crying inconsolably as a man with a guitar led others in a rendition of John Lennon’s song of peace and tolerance, Imagine…Human rights activists Luca Gervasoni Avila and Josep Maria Royo also turned up to observe the silence.Mass surveillance and intensive use of the military and the police did not work, he argued. Instead, “human rights, tolerance and democracy” should be promoted. “We are a city with a large number of immigrants, a city that wants to welcome refugees, a city that wants to offer a different model of response in the event of terrorism,” said Luca. “Now is a moment to think different.
“Josep Maria Royo’s immediate response to the violence in Barcelona was to go on social media in an effort to calm people down. “People were sharing images of their crime which showed children, blood, injured people,” he said.
“It’s easy to spread a message of hate against the Islamic population. We must stop these expressions of hate.
So according to Josep Maria Royo’ anybody who tweeted images of the aftermath of yesterdays terrorist drive by are guilty of a hate crime against the people who carried out that attack and therefore must be stopped from spreading their hatred in future. Why am I not surprised how the bBC has taken a page out of the Corbyn book of appeasement towards terrorists in which to knock out a worthy news story. Funny enough, the thugs who carried all this out are young followers of ISIS. The same people the bBC has been promoting all week as….victims
Funny that.
just for the info, 40% of all Islamic terrorist arrests in Spain have been in Catalonia.
Oh, were they Islamic? The bBBC ‘News’ at 10 tonight had reports from several of their staff on a nice little holiday in Spain, and none of them mentioned that the murderers were Muslims.
it is hard to read that BBC report. Impossible to start to understand it. The terrorists must surely despise us even more now.
Contrast this ‘rejection of hate’ narrative with the article they ran about Charlottesville. It related a poor black women being terrorised by people who thought white people were racially pure; a Jewish couple were abused which obviously reminded them of the Holocaust, which the writer then comically evokes in detail, saying 6 million died and it all started with ‘hateful rhetoric.’
I am sure the vast majority at that rally ‘rejected hate.’ It is quite hard to reject hate when people are throwing rocks and urine at you and hitting you with baseball bats; I would say a reaction is more self-defence than marking the start of a new Holocaust. I am sure most involved were very upset about what had happened, but we all know how the Beeb love to portray white men as pure evil. I also heard the driver of that car was Schizoprhenic so he may have panicked when the Antifa thugs came for him. We can never know the facts, but it is clearly not a case of some evil Hitler youth deliberately ploughing his car into a peaceful ‘counter protestor’ who was just singing lullabies.
The Beeb would have us believe they all danced around her dead body and were so inspired they decided to go off and build a gas chamber.
Glad to see al beebeera have their priorities right on News at 10:
First item: Bruce Forsyth dies.
2nd: Oh and a van killed some people in Barcelona.
3rd: (That idiot) Trump fires Bannon.
+ the remaining ‘news’ items in ‘News’ at 10:
a bBBC reporter has died;
a black man has taken photographs of black people.
Morocco: 15 boys catch rabies after gang-raping donkey
That’s a good follow up for countryfile .
I suppose the kids will be brought to Britain for treatment in the InterNational Health Service then granted citizenship
some of these from the Maghreb cannot resist a nice piece of ass! They disgust me & I wish them ill! They should never be allowed in a civilised country ..such as England used to be. Let the Frogs deal with any who want to emigrate…you know..the French (aka that shower that are: “always there when they need you!!) ref WW2 for e.g.! We should definitely not be admitting N. Africans into UK (inter alia!!).
Why the long face, lads?
Did any white people pass any A levels ? The Evening Standard was hilarious this week pictures of two black girls and a girl in a hijab getting their results. Like if it wasn’t dumbed down they could pass an exam . I want to be there on the day that George Osborne is sitting in his country home and the people come a knocking for his wallpaper empire – what a whimpering dick of a bloke
Try going into a Barclay’s bank and take a look at their promotional material.
Or Lloyds. The most deliberately provocative was the gay interracial proposal.
The latest McDonald’s ad would lead to the belief that >80% of the population of Britain is BAME.
As I’ve posted here before, it’s not an accident and advertising people actually boast about it.
The Left drifts further and further away from the common people with every year. Sooner or later there will be a reckoning – there always is.
Are you ‘undocumented’, female, black, lesbian, Muslim and disabled? Then we want your business! The rest of you can piss off.
(We ‘creatives’ get paid anyway)
Its true about the reckoning. In the last days of the Soviet Union, the opponents of Communism found out that the best way to oppose the Regime was to exaggerate its ideology in press publications, radio and television. As we now see in adverts as well as the BBC,s propaganda inserts between programmes.
So the gay and racial depictions should become more and more ridiculously unrealistic and numerous.
But then as Lord Hall and his gang begin to think its beginning to look embarrassingly over the top, they find that they cannot do anything to reign it in, because to do so would only cast them as racists or homophobic. Which means that the Politically Correct systems reckoning comes through a mad collective collapse of credibility through fear of not conforming with the Politically Correct ideology.
bBBC ‘Celebrity’ MasterChef. Four competitors, two British and two foreigners.
No prizes for guessing which two have gone through to the next round.
Masterchef Saudi Arabia
Bill Smith – Sausage Mash and Beans – way out in front
Got his own book coming out – Bill’s Travels around Saudia Arabia
Interesting Any Questions this evening.
The panel was reasonably balanced with a hilarious ‘Dave Spart’ caricature extreme left winger, once on the Corbyn team, plus Jesse Philips, always good for a laugh, but counterbalanced by two Tories who for once fought their corner on things like Pakistani rapists with minimal apology.
What was interesting was the applause. Left wing views, thunderous applause. Right wing views, isolated applause.
A biased audience. On a bBBC audience participation programme. What are the chances of that?.
Jess “the foghorn” Philips is vying with the Hackney Hippo for the Most Stupid Woman on the Media award.
The mindless bint asked out aloud for all to hear why did all those men in Spain commit mass murder? “Why are they being so nasty? “, she ponders. She seems to think that at least one of the latest atrocities in Britain might be down to the cultural derailment of the once so reasonable Men of Kent. It’s a complete mystery to Jess. All those staunch, loyal Brits who have lived in and defended their country for generations suddenly turning violent and butchering their fellow citizens. It must be the evil Tories and austerity to blame. What else could it be apart from that or the patriarchal society we live in? Comforting to know that if Comrade Corbyn has his Machtergreifung, Jess’ towering intellect will be deployed to benefit the nation.
You should try applying to be on Question Time. They practically ask you everything you have ever thought or done. Even if someone should get through who is not on message, they record it in advance so they can edit out any thought crime.If they really had confidence in their beliefs they would choose their participants via a lottery and record it live – that would really be free, fair and impartial.
Also on Any Questions tonight.
Apparently, according to LeftMob and I quote in terms, Sarah Champion’s error was in giving her story to The Sun. If she had given it to The Guardian, things might have been different.
This was an argument actually put forward on Any Questions by either Jesse Philips or Dave Spart.
Thing is, the Gaurdian is a serious news-paper.
That argument was deployed against Sarah Champion (who remains an @rsehole btw despite this article) by Yasmin Ol’-Billy-Bob-Brown on the Overpaid Vine show the other day: it was wrong that she chose to write such an article in The Sun.
I somehow don’t think The Guardian or The Mirror would have published it, even if she had offered it to them.
I notice that the weidos who run the BBC are terribly excited about one of their weirder creations ‘passing away’.
I also noticed that they call him a ‘national treasure’. How very weird. The BBC is always so fervent in its hatred of any expressions of nationalistic feeling from the plebs, yet they yearn to pretend that the plebs care about one of its manufactured pets. The bubble is stretching to popping point.
Savvy aging celebs should note that a good time to shuffle off is when the BBC has a few items of news it does not want to devote any time to.
Sorry Spain, Finland…
I would add to that an overwhelming sense of sadness and regret for all of the children who have suffered, and will continue to suffer, as the agenda runs its strange and, seemingly, incomprehensible course. The agenda (or should that be ‘age ender’?) flows down from the top and settles in dark and stagnant pools.
The Charlottesville thing is fishy, it doesn’t feel like a deliberate preplanned attack.
One girl is dead you have to respect that
And all things should come out with time.
But from the beginning it doesn’t look like a terrorist attack to me
He just killed one
Yet terrorists try to kill lots , they pick the moment and kill with the car again and again, they don’t drive away.
This could be like his foot slipped on the accelerator and then he panicked.
It’s America after all if he wanted to kill 10 he could have don’t easily with a gun
Indeed, one car runs into the back of another and one woman gets caught in the collision. A copycat killer would have waited for a clear run, they would have mounted the sidewalk, and as you say, with a readily available handgun they could easily have killed a dozen people.
There are similarities here with ‘the boy on the beach’. Supposedly hundreds have died trying to get into Europe yet the death of one boy ‘suddenly’ produces calls to open the doors to Europe.
I can’t get over Mrs. May’s daft ‘no moral equivalence’ this week. A young man wearing full SS-regalia and singing the Horst-Wessel-Lied song does not a Nazi or a Fascist make. Misguided maybe but a long, long way from actually engaging in racial genocide. Yet any thugs that call themselves ‘anti-Fascist’ get a free pass while attacking people and property. Now here is where the BBC should be using the term ‘so-called’.
What the hell is going on? I engaged in debates at school where freedom seemed to be an obvious and hard-won achievement. I went to university to study and ignored all the politics like trying to ‘Ban Barclay’s’ etc. I have never been a member of any political party. I have never taken part in any demonstration. I would like to see the good in all peoples. I give strangers the benefit of doubt, (though if they looked hostile I would cross the street as an act of sensible self-preservation). I quite like the idea that people around the world do things differently, let the French be French, etc. I’m quite happy for them to come visit, learn or trade in reasonable numbers, but I know that if they stay my culture and their culture will be modified. I suspect that the vast majority of the people in the world think, (or rather did), think the same. Live and Let Live.
And yet I rather think that our Prime Minister would call me an extremist, something that I would quietly and politely deny. No, rather she and the vast majority of our politicians are appeasers, in the mould of a Chamberlain, wanting ‘peace’ at any price. Either that or they are part of dark forces from inside that are seeking to overturn ‘the enlightenment’ and destroy the whole of Western Civilisation – and yes that means your iPads, air travel, electricity and internet you gullible idiots!
I heard he had mental health issues. I suffer from anxiety and if those thugs were coming at me I could see how an accident could happen. It seems only Islamic terrorists ever suffer from mental health problems though.
Saturday 2017-08-19 01:37
I am typing this in the mid-week open thread.
Notice a few things about the beebistan ‘reporting’ of Finnish terror attack:
1) It’s all but invisible on their webshite.
2) No mention of the murderer shouting Allahu Akbar.
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2017/08/finland-muslims-screaming-allahu-akbar-go-on-stabbing-spree-woman-and-baby-among-victims
3) In their video clip a witness spouts the usual liberal platitudes ending with “We can’t and we won’t ever give in to the ideologies of fear and hate.”
Meaning: don’t hate or fear those who want to destroy us. But maybe it’s time we DID hate and fear those who want to destroy us. Or they will.
Funny how they always quote the pc libtard in these cases (possibly fed their lines), never those – I suspect the majority – who are thinking much less charitable thoughts, like the angry crowd who were cheering and jeering at a suspect arrested in Barcelona. Now my Spanish isn’t fluent, but I don’t think they were shouting ‘we mustn’t give in to fear and hate’.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-40978446
I would say hatred is a pretty good start if you want to win a war. God if one of those monsters hurt someone you loved, can you imagine the hatred you would have for them? To just murder a decent, innocent person at random like that? We’re supposed to join hands and sing? How on earth did we let these alt-left lunatics take control of everything? They have ruined everything.
Charlie,
I wonder how many terrorist attacks are not being reported at all. There is clearly an Establishment cover up of muslim terrorism and the BBC are part of it.
“We mustn’t give into hate and fear” . But that is exactly what the Establishment are doing. “Doublespeak” as I think Orwell called it.
The decision to omit references to the muslim deity and specific utterances such as ‘Allahu akhbar’ are based on BBC energy saving policy and have the approval of the Environment Agency.
Certainly the staff electrician at the Eiffel Tower seems on board.
At the rate the wonderfully diverse multicultural Islamic terrorist groups are working maybe they can make the eifull tower flash. And have a slide show of national flags of countries attacked by those vermin. They can add Finland – which isn’t even worth a tearful outside broadcast be Huw , Emily or Mishel.
Beeb obviously isnt allowing comments on the news, except Brucey of course. But turn to BBC news FB page and you can enjoy Leanne Woods digging the hole she made for herself about the Barcelona attack as “far right” deeper and deeper. I’m amazed she has nothing better to do with her time.
BBC rule ‘When mentioning the Prevent programme always emphasize the far right aspect first”
7:50am R4Today complied today.
#1 That’s criminal to think of allocating resources since almost all so called rightwing attacks are lone wolf mentally ill
#2 Is there a Prevent prog for grooming gangs ?
Cos we are talking about 5,000 + victims
Indeed the way BBC/MSM never quote numbers shows they are playing the problem down
Possibly cos the real fig could be huge ?
Couldn’t find a Leanne Wood thread there
But there is this
https://www.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10155019749697217&id=228735667216&__tn__=-R
There’s also a post on Antifa
showing them masked.
About that…
Interestingly the BBC Facebook page header is in Catalan today.
Maybe out of respect for resident roadblock Diane, they are giving Finnish a miss?
Antifa thread
Not a bad page for BBC
Calls Antifa out as violent anarchists
Comment
Left logic
: not all Muslims are terrorists! We will not let hate divide us
Also left logic
: everyone on the right is a Nazi, kill all the scum!!!
It’s nice to have a bit of light entertainment, courtesy of Ms Woods, to help us through sad times. I can imagine her bored, drunk on her third rum and coke on a beach somewhere coming up with the great idea of equating Islamic terrorism and the ‘extreme right'( i.e. Anyone who doesn’t agree with her).
It’s lucky she doesnt do an important job
https://twitter.com/becca_march/status/898263923715039234
Ref. GW.
Do you remember the delightful Emily Thornberry (she is on the bBBC so often she must have a service contract with them) and her amazement at all those St George flags and white vans outside people’s houses?
Maybe she was on to something and they were all secret terror cells. Flying the St George flag. And those white vans. Quite a give away. Obviously rabid right wing extremists.
Perhaps the bBBC should pass the film over to the Police.
It could be a good clue, after all neither of them ever seem to have any idea who could possibly have carried out these continuing examples of poor van driving.
I do.
Seems Diane Abbott and Lady Nuggets’ interviews in future will be conducted OB at the W1A bollards in future as part of enhanced security measures.
Sources close to the BBC may have learned….
Sluff
In future please refer to this creature by her proper title – Lady Nugee [ emoj joke] Probably swaying one of her alternative homes for the summer dreaming of socialism. I’ve got her as next labour leader 10/1 .
She was a less than successful barrister like comrade Blair so they went into something easier and far more lucrative – wrecking Blighty
08:30 “What we so know so far” [About Murders in Spain]
BBC report part # ?
The terms “Muslim” and “Islam” still absent.
However the suggestion that vehicles are behind the terrorist murders has been abandoned, for the time being at least.
Cognates of “Jihad” are present.
Present before the next presentation from TWMTB which will, menaciously, describe the Jihadis as an aberration, a distortion, a misunderstanding, a tiny proportion of mentally ill people, who do not represent the real Islam, which is all sweetness and light.
The 70% of Muslims who have sympathy for Jihadis will not be mentioned in the AlBeeb “analysis”.
Naturally the Muslims with their long-established, dedicated, record of lying, will be absolved by AlBeeb.
More AlBeeb treason.
Last week was a full-on SJW attack with the most vicious slurs hurled at Trump from all angles. Most people would be so terrified that they would be forced into a humiliating apology for something they had not done. And people learn the lesson you must never deviate even slightly from SJW demands, no matter how divorced from reality they are. This is how they have silenced debate for decades. And look where it has got us.
BB
SJW?
I call them totalitarian successors to mass-murdering Commies.
Who will start the Gulags and mass murder again just as soon as they can.
Because they are right, everyone who disagrees has to learn to love Big Brother, or disappear.
They are not bothered which solution occurs, as long as the problem is “solved”.
Also the Commies are a bit pissed off they are second in the historical mass murdering statistics, behind the
Muslims.
They want that gold medal position very badly.
The only difference I see between The British Labour Party and ISIS is that ISIS is adhering to their tenets.
The BLP is 100% traitors, and the smuggest, most self-satisfied, luxury enjoying, self-congratulatory bunch
of traitors to be found anywhere.
They do have rivals in Europe and North America.
BBC Today reporter in Barcelona observes two groups of people: the candle and flower bearing faction that is facing up to those opposite chanting, ‘far right-wing’ anti-multiculturalism, anti-muslim people across the street. The police keep them apart. Now, the sleight of hand reporting goes like this – interview only one of the candle/flower bearing faction for his views. He ends his nonsense with the expression, “love prevails over hate”. We are then quickly taken to a Spanish Government Minister that tells the listener that multiculturalism has worked in the area and the group none like to name, muslims, are integrated. BBC’s reporter fails to ask, “why has this atrocity happened then”. I was thinking about these highly selective exchanges when I opened up this pithy observation –
https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/10521/intolerant-culture
“Meanwhile, men, women and children are being offered as human sacrifices on the altar of political cynicism.” Too true.
Doublespeak. It is hard to think of something failing so spectacularly.
“We signed this striker at great expense, and though he has just scored fourteen own goals we are delighted he is on the team.”
It is spiralling out of control. Nobody can believe their patently absurd narrative anymore.
And what is this idea that being poor and alienated leads to terrorism? I am poor. When I watch the MSM and so much else I feel utter disgust and total alienation. Yet I would never in a trillion years consider turning to violence over it, yet alone mass murder. It is obvious what really ‘radicalises’ certain people and it is not the Buddhist concept of enlightenment.
G
‘Love prevails over hate’
Just ask the dead people in the mortuary whether that it true. You won’t hear any al beeboid mentioning that.
Tomorrow they can run the follow-up story of how God switched the light off over America to show how much He hated President Trump.