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Great clips there! Was Rik Mayall the voice of Bliar? - Scroblene Dec 22, 06:26
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Sky News in full flow over the Las Vegas shooting but some obvious and ill-considered comments abound.
paraphrasing
“how did the gunman get 10 rifles into his room?”
“hotels have different rules”
Really? I’m sorry sir, we only allow a maximum of 5 rifles per room.
WTF kind of crap journalism is that?
Lucy, LOL x 5!!!
Bags for ‘a short’ life …
Bags for life can pose food poisoning risk – Food Standards Agency {02oct2017}
“Bags for life pose a food poisoning risk if they are used to carry raw foods such as meat and fish, a consumer watchdog is warning.”
… related? …
Life expectancy rises ‘grinding to halt’ in England {bbc.co.uk jul2017}
7:30pm BBC1 regional editions (via Sky 956 etc)
BBC Inside Out East
– In Luton, we ask how the national anti-radicalisation programme is viewed in the community two years since it came into force. We speak to the mum whose four-year-old boy was almost referred to Prevent after he drew pictures at his nursery school showing not a ‘cooker bomb’ but his dad cutting a cucumber.
– As the number of newly homeless people living in tents grows, we follow Mervyn, who has Asperger’s and who used to be an engineer,
– And with butterflies disappearing, gardener Bunny Guinness helps us make our gardens in the east better to attract them
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b095h213
BBC Inside Out West
Why has Bristol Prison got such a high suicide rate? (you know which death they won’t mention)
We investigate the failings in the cases of two young men with mental-health problems who killed themselves while on remand in the prison.
– A former boxing champ fighting terminal cancer explains his decision to stop chemo in favour of natural remedies.
– A glimpse into high-rise living in Bristol’s oldest tower block.
Other editions
NE
– the war that’s broken out between traders in one north east town.
– should we be encouraging young girls to take part in beauty pageants,
– why some of the comedians on the northern circuit are standing up for themselves
BBC Inside Out Yorkshire & Lincolnshire
– spectacular folk opera about the terrifying floods which hit the Calder Valley back in 2015
– allegations of wildlife abuse in the Peak District.
BBC Inside Out North West
– Mersey Gateway Bridge is due to open, connecting Widnes with Runcorn. Critics are angry that motorists will have to pay to cross, despite other UK tolls being scrapped.
– People sleeping rough or who are homeless often go without vital medical treatment. exclusive access to a new North West GP scheme which could be a lifesaver AND save the NHS money.
BBC Inside Out East Midlands
– allegations of wildlife abuse in the Peak District.
– controversy which still overshadows the song that launched BBC Radio 1.
BBC Inside Out London
– With the government cracking down on diesel cars, Mark Jordan asks whether the electric car can really save us.
– the mystery of a buried trove of WWII dog tags.
– how derelict glasshouses are being transformed into beautiful market gardens.
BBC Inside Out South
We meet the residents of tower blocks who say their long-standing safety concerns are being ignored
– an explosive experiment, reveal why the controversial aluminium cladding used on many public buildings and tower blocks may not be fit for purpose.
BBC Inside Out South East
– A look at the hidden problem of rural homelessness.
– To mark Bipolar Awareness Day, we find out what it’s like to live with the illness.
– cyclists giving pensioners a renewed lust for life in an outreach scheme set to sweep the nation.
BBC Inside Out South West
– the growing stink over farm pollution in the south west.
– Brixham’s magnificent masted trawlers.
BBC Inside Out West Midlands
Fifty years ago Birmingham band The Move with song Flowers in the Rain was the first to be played at the launch of Radio 1. But the band never made a penny from the track after an extraordinary intervention by the prime minister of the day.
extra bits Inside Out just tweeted about
South- Tiger story
West – Tower blocks firedoors fail on windy days
West Mids – Why are there so few British Asian professional footballers ?
So far I just dipped into those Inside Out Items
I watched the SW item on farm pollution
As ever the BBC took the SJW NGO press release as a starting point
& think that asking a few farmers, covers them for balance. And then only airing NGO voices as the expert voice
The issue was particulates from slurry spreading
and ammonia from dung/urine pool of a farm keeping large numbers of cows (1000) under cover
– I Agree that the farm not getting planning perm first was an issue.
One expert repeated “There are about 29,000 attributable deaths in Britain” due to air pollution
That’s an editorial guidelines breach..you shouldn’t state stats without explaining context..the quick word “attributable is not enough” to explain that the fig come from collecting lost life days on 65 million people so there are no bodies, and that the error bars are a mile wide.
London edition- Electric car super optimistic from a brief glance at the start it might of well being an advert for someone selling green hedgefund shares.
– The Yorks edition seemed to have NGO arguing gamekeepers shoot raptors.
– The East Edition cherrypicked a couple of examples of ridiculous false times the PREVENT prog had been called in .. in an argument to say we should give up such terrorism prevention.
– West Mids – “Why are there so few British Asian professional footballers ?”
In BBCspeak Asian doesn’t seem to include Nort East Asians like Korean/Chinese
NE edition – featured a disabled comedian speaking thru a computer
BBC R2 news this morning I was interested to be informed they were “reporting to suggestions that no one is unsackable.
The only problem that I have with this, I believe it was Andrew Marr on Sunday morning that originally put this proposition to the PM.
Therefore the way I see it was actually Andrew Marr creating the suggestion. Therefore making his own news which the BBC treat as actual news.
The correct BBC Answer is in the BBC Question. Is Trump Evil?
BBC North Korea coverage … … does this make sense Inside the world’s most secretive country {bbc.co.uk sep2017}
– If North Korea is the ‘most secretive’ then you won’t find anything out, so what’s the point?
– No mention of human torture or families in jails or students doing hard time for taking a poster off the wall.
“All the images are from NK News, a specialist publication on North Korea. During any trip to the isolated country, pictures can only be taken with the approval of government guides who are always present. (hence the smiling ladies and no pictures of the jails)”
“Despite the tensions (in North Korea over World War 3), there are enough smiles to go around (Really BBC? Who writes this material? Hello Magazine?).”
I’m not a Trump fan but right now I hope the President manages to get a grip on and reduce gun culture in the USA in a way that Clinton could only dream of and Obama failed to do.
Now is not the time for making policy, you make errors by rushing.
…we should be thinking of the victims.
In the long run it does seem crazy that automatic weapons are available, why not sell tanks and Cruise missles at Wallmart as well ?
Stew, now IS the time for making policy. It is legislating should come later. Remember the Dangerous Dogs and Gun legislation introduced by the Conservatives in the 1990s?
They did it the other way round. They legislated before they had thought through and debated the policy.
President Trump is a strong supporter of the 2nd Amendment and was largely elected by the votes of gun owners horrified at the thought of a Hillary Clinton anti-gun presidency.
Automatic weapons are not available at Walmart or anywhere else. Licensed private collectors can own machine guns in the USA, but they cost thousands of dollars to buy and are not a problem in crime figures.
The handgun ban the Conservatives brought in in 1996 was concerned solely with trying to keep their seats in Scotland (they failed). Lord Cullen was asked to write a report into Dunblane, and he did not recommend a handgun ban, but more handgun restrictions. The government ignored him for base political motives.
If you believe that free people have the right to own arms, and that arms should not belong solely to the state, then that is what you believe, and the actions of a madman will not change your views. If our rights depend on them not being abused by madmen or criminals, then effectively we have no rights.
I am not a follower of conspiracy theories, but in the light of reports of recent terrorist murders I find it hard to believe what governments, the media and cops report. Lone wolves, disturbed individuals, nothing to do with Islam blah de blah.
Thinking for myself I cannot help drawing a plausible conjecture that Stephen Paddock is a convenient patsie like Thomas Mair, whose names were published just hours after the killings – unlike Islamic terrorists ( uhm militants) whose names are witheld for some time.
So why not take the next step and blame a lone white man? Who will investigate?
The Mail trot out the claim that Isis were responsible. Who knows? A story to jettison perhaps?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4941092/ISIS-claim-responsibility-Vegas-shooting.html
But I would suggest keeping stories like this alive – it makes sense.
I am following coverage on Fox, and have looked at online websites. Sky had an interview with this woman, who reported ‘a woman telling everyone they were going to die’ and that she and her partner were escorted from the venue. No word from authorities about this – or Fox for that matter. She must have reported it to the police? Others must have heard?
http://news.sky.com/story/las-vegas-shooting-what-we-know-so-far-11064313
Other things mentioned earlier that seem to have been dropped – I thought the police/media said they’d apprehended his partner – now she is reported as being out of the country. I thought the police had said earlier they were investigating a second property in Nevada, related to the gunman. Haven’t heard anything about this…
I don’t think it’s conspiracy, but I do fully expect that they tailor what the public is told, to suit all sorts of ends. The FBI have dismissed the ISIS claim outright. I’m not sure why Trump would want to withhold a link to ISIS.
Not BBC bias, but I have actually avoided reading the BBC because it is untrustworthy. I am going to beat the addiction!
Just as the North begins its winter refreeze and at quite some speed this year the BBC decides to mislead its audience with this:
UK’s longest-lasting patch of snow melts away
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-highlands-islands-41346118
Experts believe snow at that spot has now only disappeared completely seven times in the last 300 years.
Another patch of snow on Aonach Beag melted last week. This is the first time in 11 years that no patches of snow have survived on Scotland’s hills.
It does give the reason for this as being:
Mild and wet weather during the most recent winter was a major factor in reducing the snow patch’s chances of survival.
But that does not counter the impression that a major melt is underway when the reverse is actually true.
If all the BBC ever talks about is melting ice then people who cannot spend the time to disprove their lies will believe the melt is global when the reverse is true.
There’s no mention of climate change in this article, but that isn’t the point, it’s the lie by omission that they haven’t reported on the speed of the refreeze which means people don’t know about it, and my money says that is deliberate.
They reported the same story a few weeks ago
and 21 August 2017 “Ben Nevis snow free for first time in 11 years”
The first snow on Ben Nevis this year was Sept 14/15
https://twitter.com/2017TrumpPence/status/909233704240791552
Isn’t it interesting that Al Beeb has no HYS against any of their political news on that page of their website?
Soapbox, IIRC, they started to close down debate during Nick Robinson’s time as Political Editor. When Laura Kuenssberg took over, no comments were allowed except on one Blog, I think. That one probably slipped through by mistake.
Limits were placed on Pesto, too, as Economics Editor when he moved over from Business.
Simon Jack as Business Editor Blogs far less frequently than Robert Peston ever did but Pesto’s output was exceptional, some might say ‘manic’. Simon’s are usually open to comment. He’s done one today on Monarch.
I wonder why the BBC closed down debate on their web-site when they have such a privileged position (£3.7bn unique funding) in our democracy?
What has obviously happened is that the community that was formed around the BBC web-site in general and the three Senior Editor’s Blogs, in particular, has drifted away. The BBC certainly do know how to lose friends and influence people unfavourably.
Look Norths from Hull
..”Coming up next what growing up Muslim in Grimsby”
Pres “Hi , am Nadia and I’m Grimbarian, Muslim and ethnic Palestinian”
segment coming after weather I guess
I`m sorry……………
I`m not having this….. I am from Grimsby… WTF ??!!
Nadia nobody in Grimsby really gives a sh*t about you, your lifestyle, your religiously intolerant viewpoints regarding the land of Israel or whichever description comes first in your fake identity orientated politically motivated flatulant diatribe aimed at the people of Grimsby, Jews or the non-existent injustices you and your opinions based on religious bigotry wish us to know about… If you don`t like the area and you wish to identify with a non existent `Palerstinian` ethnicity, well maybe you should f**k off to Jordan. Egypt, or the Northern region of the Arabian Peninsula where your Arab people actually belong and not Gaza, Israel or Lebanon!!! Grimsby will not miss you, and tbh I would rather not hear what you have to say about whatever bulls**t you have to peddle….
Thankfully Grimsby is that much of a sh*thole that we don`t actually have any enclaves of Islamic people…… As for Xenophobic feelings, the people of Grimsby is home to descedents of the Scandanavian fishermen who settled here during the last century who settled and became part of the populace during the towns time as the home of the largest fishing fleet the world has ever known…. Hardly a hotbed of racism …..
Look Norths from Hull
..”This WEEK Look North has a series on being Muslim in the region
Coming up next what growing up Muslim in Grimsby”
Pres “Hi , am Nadia and I’m Grimbarian, Muslim and ethnic Palestinian”
segment coming after weather I guess
“The media often shows them as bigotted and backward, but I assure you only a tiny minority fall into the category”
after 911 there was a sudden of change
and with each terror attack that fear increases
(is that irrational ?)
75% of the victims of Islamic terrrorism happens to Muslims in Muslim countries
(so ?)
Tomorrow report from Lincoln
Next week……
We travel to `New Holland` once known for its` population of Dutch settlers who came over to work irrigating the local flood areas of the Humbers` South bank… We ask who killed all the Dutchmen?? Ghrist!! I hate the BBC!!!
I heard at the end of PM that they decided to replay O’Bummer’s response to an earlier mass shooting that occurred under his tenure, when he stated that as a consequence there needed to be tighter gun control in the U.S.
In what world is al Beebus reporting the news by doing that?
They are just choosing to broadcast views of an ex-POTUS (one possessing the Beeb’s most favoured status) which just happen to accord with their own. It was point scoring of a particularly shabby variety in light of the fact that there had just been a huge number of people murdered and injured in a gun attack.
As this tragedy unfolds it will probably be the character of the perpetrator which will determine how long the msm will remain interested in it. In my book there can never be an excuse for this kind of atrocity and it should not be forgotten whatever the motives.
BBC reporting that there are 58 dead and 515 wounded as a result of the Las Vegas shootings.
I’m sure someone like Pounce with some military background will be able to make more sense than I can of these numbers, because they seem awfully high for a single shooter over a 3 minute period.
I know modern automatics can discharge huge quantities of rounds but this must have taken over 1000 at least. The guy had no military training in weapons use either
No one who knew this man has been able to give the slightest insight as to this mans state of mind, nor how he came by so many weapons.
Those Americans who do know about these weapons are saying that what happened is more or less impossible for a single untrained shooter, begging the question whether we are being told the truth of what has happened.
I believe some of the injuries were inflicted during the panic that unfolded, that being said people underestimate how many rounds can be fired but until the full report is revealed speculation will have many conspiracy theorists working overtime.
I have been led to understand that it depends on the ordnance and how the lead (if the bullets were lead) fragments, especially if it hits something solid either inside or outside the body. The human skeleton may fragment a shell that could even kill someone else.
Spraying the area with fire from a height could conceivably result in many fatalities and casualties. It is the selective assassination that is difficult to achieve, especially from high on a tower block which would be moving with any wind.
Pounce is our authority to comment here and no doubt will.
Oh here we go – Yasmin Alibaba Brown in righteous mode again on Sky.
Great! Lucky you, Brissles.
I actually feel really good that I cannot legally watch telly so I don’t watch it and can let such wonderful opportunities pass me by. It genuinely creates a lightness in my inner being.
I can play Tom Petty & the Heartbreakers and The Travelling Wilburys instead. 🙂
Against my better judgement, I listened to Start the Week (R4 9am) today. Well, the Radio iPlayer was on, anyway.
Quite interesting in a way. It has always amused me how Anthony Powell affected to be non-Welsh (I assume) by having people pronounce his surname as Pole. Seem to recall that that was a relative late in life choice on his part. His biographer, Hilary Spurling, was on the programme. She tried to maintain he was “an ‘umble soul’ from a very modest background” but not only did she contradict herself later in the programme, Powell’s Wiki entry indicates he came from a military family and mixed with aristocracy. Perhaps they confused Pole with someone from eastern Europe?
Very fashionable.
The BBC would like me to believe ‘Powell is seen as the arch-conservative’ post-WW2 author ‘but biographer Hilary Spurling shows his fascination with power and people at every level of society’. Power tends not to exist very much in many levels of society (especially in and for the period for which Powell wrote), unless of course, you are in, or on, the all-powerful BBC.
Maybe we should say “all-poleful BBC” and then shorten that to “allful BBC” ?
From TWMTB
“IS’s claim of responsibility for the Las Vegas attack is very unusual in that the perpetrator’s profile does not fit that of supporters or “soldiers” that the group has claimed in the past, writes Mina al-Lami, who monitors jihadist groups for the BBC. If true, his suicide would be deemed wholly “un-Islamic”, she adds.”
Monitors = Spends all her time looking for excuses for the Muzzie Mass Murderers.
un-Islamic = Very Islamic.
No comments from TWMTB about reports that AntiFa literature was found in the hotel room of Paddock.
If these reports are true TWMTB will delay reporting it as long as they did the paedophile Muzzie Mass Rapes.
More on the LA shooter.
Something snapped
When? Before he took ten rifles to the hotel or while he was taking them, or did he snap later on?
His brother Eric tells DailyMail.com his family have no idea what happened to make him shoot
‘He was just a guy. Something happened, he snapped or something,’ he said
‘He has no military background,’ he said, adding that he doesn’t know where his brother got his stash of automatic weapons from
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Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4940800/Las-Vegas-shooter-s-brother-says-family-dumbfounded.html#ixzz4uNuSJ8KK
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If true, his suicide would be deemed wholly “un-Islamic”
Which of course all depends on him actually being the shooter and not being a victim who was shot and left to take the blame – or alternatively acting under duress.
Thoughtful
Exactly
It has taken the authorities less than 12 hours to determine that he is not connected to Isis. But after 12 months they have not determined whether Trump is a Russian spy3
Intended to mention this little bit of BBC naughtiness:
” 06.55
In 1967 a scientific paper by Dan McKenzie and Robert Parker opened the door to plate tectonic theory by publishing the first paper on the subject in the journal Nature, describing the motion of rigid plates on a spherical Earth. Dan McKenzie is professor of Earth sciences at the University of Cambridge. ”
Saw the above in the TODAY Programme running order today. That jingled a bell in this schoolboy’s head. Well, I was a schoolboy 50 years ago. When I saw it, I thought ‘That’s not right, is it.’ ? And thus it has proved.
I thought Tectonic Plate Theory was well-established when I was studying science at Secondary School. 1967 was a few years before I left but I was certain that it had been talked about before then, maybe even in Junior School where they made a point of acquainting us with Atlases and their contents. It turns out my memory was accurate and McKenzie & Parker were merely ‘standing on the shoulders of giants’.
BBC: providing listeners and web-site users with partially correct but otherwise FakeNews or FalseNews. The bit that IS correct is that McKenzie and Parker published a paper on the subject in 1967. This ‘opened the door to plate tectonic theory by publishing the first paper on the subject’ is rubbish.
Oh dear!
Where is maxi?
He had to go relieve himself when he heard Las Vegas shooter was white.
Allegedly White. The shooter may have been a Black Muslim Woman. We simply don’t know how the shooter self-identified in terms of race, religion and gender, so let’s not jump to hasty conclusions. That’s how it works, doesn’t it, BBC?
BBC Online News:
“”Five-year-old girl ‘misses’ Muslim fosterers, court hears””
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-41476357
So. Now the BBC listens to the views of a five year old girl?
The BBC’s British messiah, Tony Blair, starts to realise the obvious:
I wonder if he can remember who created the problem in the UK?
Nothing to do with Labour.
BBC News @ 10:00
Shows Boris Johnson in jogging gear, running into a building and then the BBC interviews other people and not Boris Johnson himself …
“My predecessor (Boris Johnson) just needs to keep his mouth shut.” – John Howell, MP, Conservative Henley
Please note we don’t know what the BBC question was asked prior to his answer. “How does Boris stop swallowing flies?”
“Would you have sacked him?” – BBC Interviewer, no name given
“I think he would be sacked by the public” – John Howell, MP, Conservative Henley
“Is he(Boris Johnson) a good comedian?” BBC Interviewer, no name given
“He’s funnier than me. But that ain’t hard.” – Jim Davidson, Comedian
Please note than Jim Davidson was standing infront of a campaign to reduce re-offending, but this was not discussed by the BBC
…
Show picture of Jacob Rees-Mogg talking to crowd (no words from the man himself) then pan across to protesters at back of auditorium shouting “Tories Out! Tories Out!”.
But the BBC are afraid to show Jacob Rees-Mogg chatting to protester … and exposing the protesters limited reasoning … {order-order.com}
…
“The Tories know something is wrong, but don’t know how to fix it.” – Laura Kuenssberg
…
BBC, no mention on news of Somali-born refugee charged in Canada ‘terror’ attack {bbc.co.uk 02oct2017}
“A Somali-born refugee has been charged with five counts of attempted murder in connection with a weekend attack in Edmonton, Alberta.”
BBC Local News Interviews “Urban Explorers” as heroes who scare of kids accessing sites that are closed to the public, but they are trespassing because they are the public? It’s getting confusing!
Fom TWLLV
“The spread of rightwing blogs, claiming the shooter was an anti-Trump liberal, on to mainstream platforms is the latest example of hyper-partisan trolling after a tragedy”
Allegedly, followed by a photograph.
“People take shelter inside the Sands Corporation plane hangar after the mass shooting in Las Vegas that killed more than 50. Photograph: Powers Imagery/Invision/AP”
That AP, the “Build your next story with . . .” AP. Build? No reporting of facts?
Just like Lego and Meccano, take some of the components and create your own version of the truth.
Photograph.
100% “Nothing to do with AntiFA” States TWLLV.
100% lies.
100% Women (3) in photograph.
100% Sitting on the floor.
100% identical with Corbyn & Co who could not find a seat in a half-empty train.
66%+ Non-white (2) women in photograph. Well known attendees of country Music. Not. Slap my thigh.
100% posed pictures.
100% doubt the veracity? Look at the Charlie Hebdo videos/photos and compare the really scared of death with the
AP/TWLLV version. No contest. AP/TWLLV 0 Truth 5^63.
“More people read The Guardian than ever . . . ”
Probably correct.
Why?
Because 80% of the BTL commenters expose TWLLV nonsense with one swipe of the keyboard.
Because 80% of the BTL commentators do not like a challenge.
Lazy really, I have a spider in my bathroom who uses my laptop when I leave it on.
This is a Portia spider, highly intelligent, and understands the principle of the lever, which
enables him/her (Well I do not want to get too intrusive in the Muzzie/Donkey fashion), to operate the keys.
Portia spiders have outstanding optical faculties for an invertebrate.
Portia spiders are also polyglots and my spider has a command of European languages.
My Portia spider has multiple Guardian accounts, how I know not, since I am banned, for truthfulness.
Most of the BTL comments in TWLLV which receive 200+ approvals are from Portia.
Summary, TWLLV is lying, again. Remember their Rotherham mass rape report response?
Firstly, they ignored it.
Secondly, the reporters were villified.
Thirdly it was the fault of the BNP, who publicised the mass rape years before. TWLLV/TWMTB, et al, attempted to get Nick Griffin jailed for telling the truth.
Fourthly, it was the fault of the children who had been gang raped by the Muzzie filth.
Fifthly, it was the fault of the families who had failed to protect their children. The same families who were threatened with jail by the police, who removed some children and returned them to the rapists. The families were also threatened with murder by members of the (So-called) ROP.
Sixthly, eventually some slaps on the wrist were administered, by our impartial, public sector, comic impersonation of a judicial system, and many Muzzie rapists are it again. Unless they have fallen in love with a donkey.
I have no idea what TWLLV is so I did a Google and came back with that it is a kind of advertising agency dealing in luxury goods.
Again I am none the wiser as to why the agency would have any relevance to a shooting in America?
Of course this could be an obscure use of an acronym the poster has coined themselves, but in not posting what it means has rendered the entire post completely meaningless !
T
TWLLV
The World’s Leading Liberal Voice.
What the Guardian describes itself as.
“https://www.theguardian.com/uk
Video embedded · Latest news, sport, business, comment, analysis and reviews from the Guardian, the world’s leading liberal voice”
Where have you been?
TruthSeeker,
Portia here.
I have to prepare a lecture on non-linear differential equations for 2017 10 03, 10:00 BST.
So I am unable to give your comment the thought it deserves.
SOTNSYMTWDYNFOAD.
maxi, while you are here, any comment on the falseness or fakeness in this BBC TODAY Programme running order segment: “opened the door to plate tectonic theory by publishing the first paper on the subject in the journal Nature”?
I notice that you appear to have skipped over it.
Maxicony aka Zero
Just say no. Good advice. Bet the little girls raped by your kind of people in Rotherham and elsewhere said no.
So Nick Robinson claims last week the BBC is under attack from alternative news sites. This morning his coverage of the Tory party conference was completely balanced by playing a recording of the “Oh Jeremy Corbyn” ditty. The obvious message from our impartial Nick is that Jezza, no actually we are coming to get you. The only saving grace from this is that the audience it was aimed at won’t be out of bed for a few hours yet.
A reflection on BBC reporting …
BBC Labour Conference … “Oh! Jeremy Corbyn! Oh! Jeremy Corbyn!” (BBC focus on speeches)
– little mention of conflict/divisions/protesting in Labour party
BBC Conservative Conference … “Tories Out! Tories Out!” (BBC focus on protests)
– lots of focus on conflict/divisions/protesting in Conservative party
– BBC, you pay under threat of prison £145 to be told that Labour is good (no one protesting) and Conservatives are bad (lots of protesting)
I have realised that the BBC claim of staff ‘leaving politics at the door’ is simply BBC ‘accuracy’ through semantics.
They stand one one side offering support one way whilst oozing gossip and shrieking abuse the other.
It’s a DNA thing, I have learned.
When I saw an item on the BBC website entitled ‘A strange encounter with St Vincent’, I genuinely thought it would be something about Vince Cable, the Brexit-hating
senile old foolprincipled politician so beloved of the BBC. But it turns out to be an extensive advertisement for a singer (no, me neither) who has a new album to promote. Question: such an advertisement on another platform with a large audience would cost thousands of pounds, so why doesn’t the BBC charge for these shameless plugs and use the money to reduce or eliminate the hated TV tax?http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-41467671
St Vincent is some sort of lesbian pop singer. She used to be Cara Delevingne’s girlfriend. All very hip.
Maybe it’s me – but a piece on al Beeb talking about women ( I won’t say mothers ) who bang out kid after kid which are taken into care / adoption . There were mad numbers 7000 wimin one year 15000 the following banging out 32000 kids which go into state care.
Albeeb s auto solution is to “support the Wimin” no one mentioned sterilisation . Why? Change the law . Stop the problem .
Camilla Cavendish invited on to TODAY @8.56 a.m. to contradict and rubbish the PM’s earlier interview with Nick Robinson. She does a great job.
Matthew d’Ancona is there as well. His definition of ‘populist’ is hilarious, really worth listening to again on BBC Radio iPlayer.
Where Camilla may be right (I’ve been saying the same thing on here) is that Boris Johnson is doing a rubbish job as Foreign Secretary.
While maxi is in the vicinity I will state that I think the attitude of BBC Radio 4 N&CA to the Labour and Conservative Party Conferences is markedly different. Bias? Definitely.
BBC, you pay under threat of prison £145 to be told that Labour is good (no one protesting) and Conservatives are bad (lots of protesting) …
A reflection on BBC reporting (no definitive statistics, only my opinion on BBC reporting) …
BBC Labour Conference … “Oh! Jeremy Corbyn! Oh! Jeremy Corbyn!” (BBC focus on speeches)
– little mention of conflict/divisions/protesting in Labour party
BBC Conservative Conference … “Tories Out! Tories Out!” (BBC focus on protests)
– lots of focus on conflict/divisions/protesting in Conservative party
Marky,
Since it is clear that al beeb wants to stop or dilute brexit it wants to get rid of the conservative leader – get a replacement – bang on about mandate and get another general election then support their messiah – comrade Corbin who will agree free movement of people to keep the single market and screw the financial services industry . Then he ll blame the tories for every thing with the help of al beeb . Job done
Getting tired of this BBC thing and the feeling that prison is looming because I can’t reasonably pay for this anymore.
I pay £145 for a broadcaster for a £3.5bn British and global view of the World but all I get is ‘we want 65% women working in the BBC’ and ‘the BBC pays football presenters large wages who can spout negative things without argument or seeing the other side’.
Last night on the News News at 10 it said that Monarch airlines had gone into administration due to terrorism (tick) and the fall in the pound (tick) and Brexit (double tick).
Reallly BBC? The presenter ends on Brexit causing the problem so that is the one left in the viewers mind … the other two reasons now have lower priority …. see what they did …. dropped a negative Brexit association into your head at the end, like ending on football to make you feel good this is the opposite … let’s have a look at Monarch passenger numbers ….
Monarch Airlines {wiki}
Passengers on Monarch Airlines Charter Flights:
2010 – 2,103,347
2011 – 1,391,291
2012 – 943,935
2013 – 788,789
2014 – 757,956
Scheduled flights … run all year usually set times from a limited number of airlines [dependent where you are going]
Charter flghts …. are those used by tour operators during the holiday season they may be owned by the Tour Operator or seats purchased from an external source.
Lucky old beeb Part 2. First the mayhem in Spain knocks the Canadian Islamic terror attack off the Home page. Next the huge story in Las Vegas knocks the French Islamic terror attack way down the rankings. So 24 hours later you’d be hard pressed to find either muslim terror stories anywhere on their website. If you’ve got a magnifying glass you might just read that ‘a man’ was arrested in Canada. Them men again, eh?
Talk about burying inconvenient news. Literally.
Some one up there must love the beeb. Or rather some demon down there in the lowest circle of hell.
Yes Charlie , two innocent girls slaughtered in the name of Allah . No mention , no tears , a career labour politician killed and they want to put up statues and roll out her dodgy husband each time the muzziis attack Blighty again . What bias?
1. Islam asks for one simple thing. Islam asks for everything – religion, police, morals, schools, science, laws, food, clothes and art to be Islamic.
2. Islam only has two problems – Muhammed and Mohammed. Once the first problem has been solved then the second one can be solved easily.
Nick Robinson was his usual ultra biased self when interviewing the PM this morning. All Grenfell and ‘burning injustices’. Now May isn’t particularly good at dealing with this stuff and no she isn’t a ‘big ideas’ person. But do the BBC have to dance to Corbyn’s tune so blatantly? Corbyn promises the earth with no thought as to how it can be paid for. He backtracks and is inconsistent . Behind him stands the sinister Mcdonnell, unashamed Marxist and believer in Street violence, political strikes and anti democratic methods. Then we have the modern brown shirts of Momentum, shouting down opposition and using intimidation if necessary . It’s not obvious that we would ever get rid of a Marxist government if people were stupid enough to vote labour in. McDonnell doesn’t believe in parliamentary democracy, just as Lenin, Stalin and Hitler didn’t. And our economy would be ruined.
I wish May would be more convincing in pointing all this out but surely the BBC could be more balanced? Where’s Brillo?
England
Sadly I think Brillo might be quietly giving up on al beeb . He could easily drown in their sea of lefty bias .
Sky were just as bad. Me Me Me was interviewing may but she was just smirking away asking her gotcha questions and not letting her finish the answers. Constantly interrupting and snidely commenting. Marr done the same on his sunday hour of socialism constant interruptions and wrecking her train of thought. That marr interview with may was off the scale on sunday. Just before may Marr interviews Jon lansmann the fuehrer of momentum who got such a soft ride instead of taking the scumbag apart.
Once me me me had finished her questioning she has tamara cohen from manchester to give us her version of what may just said. Minchin was the same on the beeb asking may her scripted questions written down for her and forensically checking everything. Minchin just couldnt hide the venom and again over to chris mason for his version of what may said.
A total 180 to what happened last week at the labour lovein. A chimp could have taken apart what corbyn and johnny ira were ‘promising’ the young deluded idiots but no, everything is wonderful in la la land. No divisions either apparently but it was obvious there was, as some of the momentum retards looked like they wanted to knife a few labour mp’s and even during the great leaders speech you could see them looking around to make sure everyone was on message clapping along to the dear leader which many weren’t. But there was no mention of any of this from the worlds greatest broadcaster just that labour stand on the edge of power. Anti semitism what antisemitism down the memory hole like a bullet, its only a fringe thing as if its nothing to do with labour, but it goes all the way to the very top in that rotten cabal.
just had the chance to catch up with Marrs interview with May on Sunday. You are absolutely correct in that May lacks the quickness of wit and the confidence to deal with these diversionary tricks, employed only to back foot the victim. Marr himself had twice succeeded with this tactic within minutes of his ‘interview’ by saying ‘let me ask again’ and ‘lets try that again’ to present May as devious and unsure in response to questioning. He continued to interrupt knowing that he could prevent her train of thought and contribute to her already indecisive style of delivery.
His first question:- ‘so Prime Minister, are you going to apologise for your failure during the general election’ set the tone and her policy announcements became secondary to the selective bear baiting which now passes for political discourse, if you are of a certain political persuasion.
‘so Prime Minister, are you going to apologise for your failure during the general election’ – Marr
Theresa May’s response could have been – “Labour lost GE17 and Conservatives won, Labour are in waiting but the Conservatives are in Government now. Next question please …”
– Theresa May should be coached in how these interviewers speak and attack.
– Note how you end with “Conservatives are …” so it is the last thing said and in the person’s memory.
Yes Marky, the Conservatives are much too deferential to the evil beeb, I suppose out of fear of provoking their hostility: WAKE UP dudes, they’re already hostile, you can’t make it worse. Cowering only emboldens them like all bullies. I’d like Tories to take a leaf out of the Milo approach: treat them like the trash they are, despise them, don’t give an inch, talk over them. Stop being so damn nice.
“they (UC Berkeley) have 65 grand of my (Milo) money, they said they returned it, they didn’t. Their liars and no one will call them out on it. Not a single journalist will write a story about it (BBC journalist listening does not offer his £3.5bn BBC Services). 65 thousand dollars, I paid for those venues and they refused to give those venues. They haven’t given me the venues and they haven’t given me the money back. And all the while, they are leaking my speaker list to the chronicle of higher education, to give Antifa a heads up about who is speaking. They gave domestic terrorists a month long heads up on law enforcement. ” – {youtube – Milo Clubs The BBC to Death … Again – @9:24}
– Hit the BBC with hard cold facts, limit their time for responses – that’s the Milo way!
MM Hit the BBC with hard cold weapons.
Robinson was a disgrace this morning. In principle I have no objection to a PM being subjected to intense questioning, but what he did was don the donkey jacket of self-righteousness and go full Momentum on her.
That said, the ghastly woman does herself no favours. She sat there twittering away about her ‘racial audit’ or whatever she has called it and then responded to Robinson’s pompous posturing about Grenfell as if anyone but a handful of virtue signalling Lefties in the media any longer gives a damn. So what if ‘people of colour’ are stopped and searched more often than whites? If they weren’t implicated in vastly more criminality they wouldn’t be. and it is absurd to pretend otherwise.
However, like her idiot protege, Rudd, she believes she can placate the crocodile by feeding it tasty morsels, mouthing platitudes about ‘right wing extremism’ or ‘hate crimes’ instead of doing what everyone with an ounce of intelligence knows must be done – stopping the immigration of anyone who supports or might support Islamic radicalism, deporting the many thousands who do and who are already here and clamping down hard on violent, drug related subculture.
Instead of giving Robinson both barrels, Treezer shot herself. So be it. Go. Your time is done.
Instead of trying to be nice to the beeb and the left Theresa and the tories need to realise they hate you, they always have and they always will no matter what you do. You can give them all they ask for they will still try to destroy you. Learn from trump and treat them with the respect they deserve which is none. His press secretary Sarah Sanders is excellent at it. She Treats them like the little spoilt brats they are. Her colleague Sean spicer learned the hard way. They hated him. He tried to be nice and they tried to destroy him. He came back and treated them the way they treated him.
Katie,
” You can give them all they ask for they will still try to destroy you.”
You hit the nail on the head there. It’s best we all accept we are dealing with irrational hatred.
Right. Like that vile tweet from that woman in US – ‘Hope only Trump supporters are dead’.
It’s nasty, it’s gold plated hypocrisy and it’s no great stretch to imagine Robinson shooting at a crowd.
As you say, highly irrational hatred, stoked by what? Fear of something they think has hurt them or will hurt them?
The motives and actions are as mysterious as the Vegas shooter.
PS: Having witnessed May on Brexit it now makes complete sense as to why the ‘Hook’ fiasco took so long. May is an political midget and even makes me nostalgic for the days of the knock about Prescott interviews – bit sad really.
The Tories are bloody stupid enough to offer BBC hacks all manner of gossip and bitching over Boris.
Won`t they learrn from the lefty SNP and Labour shock troops who, at least are disciplined in their nastiness-they keep the Jew baiting out of view and throw bricks at women Labour MPs when the TV cameras aren`t on anyway?
Boris offends the left and BBC , so he has got be looked after-and the creeps like Rudd and Hammond need to be swept out of the party and welcomed into the LibDumps.
The Tories need to want to win, need to hate the left and BBC as we do-or else they`ll be Corbyns bitches very soon.
KatieH,
“…… need to realise they hate you, they always have and they always will no matter what you do. You can give them all they ask for they will still try to destroy you.” – I think I know another similar group that act as Fifth Columnists in the UK: muslims!
Grenfell
– Amnesty was given to victims incase they were criminals or illegally in the country, this has now set a precedent for future tragic events. If one of those let off turns out to be a rapist or killer then the lives we think we saved will be taken away by the evil we let through our grasp.
– A full investigation will take place looking into the state of the rooms and any neglect on tenants, owners and councils. Of course by giving the tenants amnesty we have given them a reason not to be responsible for their actions.
– A review of the current flats around the country has found that this is happening now …. i.e. show future possible tragedies because of litter, blocked fire doors, sprinklers not working, over crowding, sub-letting etc.
Agree entirely GCooper.
I listened to the whole interview, yet somehow the BBC see fit to put whatever was said by the Prime Minister through their muslim bag by way of filter. You plebs out there may THINK you heard what she said-but here is Laura Kuennsberg to translate, interpret and chew it up and out for you-in case the PM is somehow able to explain what is REALLY going on here.
Disgusting-when I want Kuennsbergs spin or Robinsons spew , and not what the Prime Minister or telling us, then …well…that`s all the BBC have decided is “news”, so go hang yourself basically.
May is inept-she really needs to take her diabetes injection in front of them ceaselessly and simply repeat that Corbyn didn`t dare go onto Today last week, that Kuennsberg needs police protection from Labour, that Holocaust deniers have taken over key areas of Labour policy-and that we`re scooting out of the EU with as hard a Brexit as we can get…if only to bring down the salaries of scum like Nick Robinson.
Grenfell is the monument to Blairs unfettered immigration, Red Kens lax fire regulations, Green Party lagging and EU rules that replaced ours…play a little nasty politics with them Mrs May, because something far more nasty will result if you do not.
RIP Tom Petty…that`s the only real news for us here today.
Theresa May really needs to grow a pair and stick up for herself against the relentless tide of BBC snidey sarcasm.
Grenfell Tower was not some shocking indictment of Broken Britain. The council had just spent £9 million on the place. The tenants I have seen talking about it on TV seem to have loved living there. The problem was that the EU compliant insulation and cladding turned the place into a death trap. No-one wanted that to happen, but it came about because the block was being modernised. Ironically, if the council had neglected it, this fire would never have happened.
RiC
“No-one wanted that to happen”
How do you know that?
Why, who do think wanted it to happen? Are you perhaps referring to the mysterious Ethiopian tenant in the flat where the fire started? Has he been found? I haven’t heard much about him, but I doubt he wanted to burn the block down.
With the actual victims forgotten by the MSM already as they scramble to get an angle to push, the BBC does a nifty ‘left hand; other left hand’ move dredging up an old bit of footage with a shrink telling media not to get into body counts.
Rather, one BBC strand does. Other BBC strands run with the body counts.
Maybe expert in these matters Mishal Husain could be prevailed upon to advise on what relative numbers are acceptable?
Any special victims progs today ?
#1 R4 now Black R1 DJ Trevor Nelson’s prog is about mixed race familes
#2 R4 8pm Extremism: Hidden in Plain Sight – hate speech and extreme Islamist messages in some of Britain’s mainstream Urdu language newspapers
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b096hczb
#3 BBC1 10:45 : Reggie Yates spends a week inside an Iraqi refugee camp,
(So overall today has little.. so it’ll be up to the news/magazine shows to do their normal SJW campaigning shouting “Theresa May is in Crisis etc.”)
BBC2 9pm David Starkey has a prog about a religion that has “unleashed terror across Europe”
… he’s talking about the Protestant Reformation
Ah Reggie yates who no matter where in the world he goes he ‘finds’ racists. They are everywhere with him. Two massive chips on those shoulders of his yet the beeb love him and are aiding him in his new ‘political’ direction. He was doing a show on rubbish dumps in Ghana last week alleging that it was the UK’s fault. No proof just lots of alleging.
KH
Would that be the same Ghana that had a higher standard of living than South Korea in 1953?
Would that the same Ghana that now has large advanced technology companies like Samsung, LG Electronics, Hyundai, Doosan Heavy industries, etc?
Well yes and no.
Regarding Grenfell, while not condoning any mistakes or bad practice that actually caused the fire, and feeling for the bereaved, my view is that the ‘injustice’ revealed is far different from that spoken of by the BBC and its lefty chums. Why do immigrants, including illegal ones, get priority for social housing in London? Together with our benefits system and refusal to deport illegals, housing must be a major pull factor behind the high net migration figures. Young indigenous British people going to London for work reasons get no opportunity to have social housing and pay astronomical rents at the market rate, out of their own pockets, not out of benefit money.
Secondly why is sub-letting by social housing tenants not tackled vigourously.? It’s been known about for years. Another social injustice and another factor encouraging immigration I would imagine .
I am heartily sick of the BBC and the left distorting the real issues revealed by Grenfell. As usual the Tories appear inept and passive in the face of this.
As pointed out above , there is no point in ‘feeding the crocodile ‘ by allowing BBC interviewers to rough you up or by offering ‘Corbyn lite’ policies.
@EnglandExpects It is clear to me that part of the reason for the disproportionate amount of coverage about Grenfell (compared to say grooming gangs/terrorism) is to fill any vacuum and not leave space for people to ask questions about the the illegals and subletting etc.
Stew, I think it has been disproportionate compared to say the deaths in Manchester caused by our Libyan friend and his circle, however I wouldnt have minded that so much if there had been more balanced coverage of the issues involved . As pointed out above these issues are, to me, the interaction in London and probably other cities, between immigration , including illegals, and our offer of housing, benefits and immunity from due legal process.
Sky reporting house in Paris raided and 5 radicalised arrested together with bomb making kit. How much coverage will this one get after Marseille , Canada and who knows how many?
We are today in SERIOUS trouble – the EU is to vote on a condemnation of our Brexit negotiating stance.
I find it so hard to reconcile that this is the country that produced the likes of Churchill, Marlborough, Wellington and such.
Gax, let’s face it, we have been at war with other’s in Europe for centuries with the exception of when we went to their assistance last time round. I would argue that it would not happen again. Anyway, the EU plan their own army which will only be used to quell the domestic populations when they rise up to end the EU/muslim debacle.
They vilify climate-change Deniers; they lock up Holocaust Deniers. I propose a new crime: Islamic terror Denial.
In future, every euphemism of ‘lone wolf’, ‘mental problem’, ‘unknown motive’, ‘van attack’, ‘crime of passion’, ‘Norwegian suspect’, ‘French national’, ‘knife attack’, ‘car ramming’, ‘shooting’, ‘terror incident’, ‘nothing to do with islam’, ‘religion of peace’ etc, will face the charge of Islamic terror Denial.
Will the defendant please rise. Bbc, you are hereby found guilty on multiple charges of Islamic terror Denial, for which you are sentenced to switching to a Subscription method of funding.
I would have preferred the death sentence but apparently it’s been abolished.
Man Jailed For Anti-Islam Facebook Posts, Germany Raids Homes Of 36 People Accused Of Hateful Social Media Posts {zerohedge.com 24jun2017} – The Lady who is quietly in charge of the EU (not that she was voted into that position) and a steady force for the European Union (not that she was voted in) is also the lady in charge of the country that hates hate and hates Anti-Islamic conversations.
blasphemy – the action or offence of speaking sacrilegiously about God or sacred things; profane talk.
Seems like over reaction and it never happened in the days of ‘letters to the editor’.
It’s like they’re really afraid of ……………………. something and desperately trying to suppress ……………………… something? Germany, don’t they have a history of repression?
Meanwhile, Sussex police are, no doubt, closing police stations. And at what stage has anyone ever been asked in this country whether we want the police to have a ‘diversity budget’? I’m damned sure it has never appeared on any election leaflet I have received. Who decided this? And why? And how do we get them back into the Job Centre queue where they belong?
We don’t need the UK police … religion has all the answers … Germany: Chechen Sharia Police Terrorize Berlin {gatestoneinstitute.org 08jul2017}
Threats of violence against “errant”(straying from the accepted course or standards) women are viewed as “acts of patriotism.”
“Everyone’s attention is fixed on the Syrians, but the Chechens are the most dangerous group. We are not paying sufficient attention to this.” — Police in Frankfurt (Oder).
When will the BBC stop broadcasting the, “Trump lied” excerpt in the trailer for Katy Kay et al’s reporting on the USA? Perhaps the BBC could replace it with a ‘Katy Kay lied’ focus?
JeremyVine has just tried to get two naive young country and western singers on tour here to denounce gun ownership back home.
The politicisation in furtherance of the lefts agenda is ceaseless.
The two lads clearly have no idea of how the BBC operate do they?
As for Vines “candid friend” slipperiness and deceit?…well, after Question Time of Sept 13 2001-it`s pretty clear what the BBC think of America.
Vine also gets to read out abusive tweets about Trump in the name of vox pops.
Never miss a good crisis do they?
Bodies still in the morgue and the BBC riding them all like bucking broncos in the service of Hillary and Corbyn.
Still-Bonnie Grier was described as a journalist for “The New European”, you`ll not be shocked to know that she`s against gun ownership.
Many of us wondered what the hell Bonnie Grier could be described as , apart from a talentless black female race hustler safely berthed in London as a negative Alastair Cooke in reverse. Now we know-maybe that`s the only point of the New European…to let any nasty Remaining snob get to call herself a “journalist”.
Jimmy Savile was an author too.
PS-Steve Wrights show has a great piss-take impression of Jeremy Vine, Wright is worth every penny this month!
New EU Directive for BBC Programme Labels – for a new transparent and accountable BBC, after each Jeremy Vine programme …
“I, Jeremy Vine, cost the public £750K* per year which is the equivalent to 21.5 nurses on £35K, declare that I have no other incomes derived from my broadcasting at the BBC. I have declared all my expenses and registered all gifts on the BBC expenses website. I, Jeremy Vine on this 30 minutes of show, with production time of 2 hours at an hourly rate of £1153 cost you the public £2884*. This does not include the studio and team wages. All monies I make from my ‘BBC Brand’ go back into the BBC. I follow the BBC guidelines – not giving my opinion on subjects that I know little about on twitter, facebook. If I do give an opinion then they are 100% in agreement with the BBC and have been approved by the BBC at time of publishing. Please note that reading out this EU compliant notice just cost you, the public enforced to pay my wages under threat of prison, a total of £76*.”
* hourly rate is rough calculation, without knowing Jeremy Vines full wage it will be hard to workout. Figures are for illustrative purposes only. They may go up or down depending gender or TV Tax, but are NOT linked to the talent market. {old post}
@Marky were you talking about extra income like doing the book festival circuit being paid to plug your own book
… Which is also widely plugged on the BBC
Is he also one if those that earned a load through Strictly ?
Has anyone mentioned Nice – not guns, just a truck?
Has anyone mentioned the countless IEDs around the World – not guns, just readily available chemicals?
No mention yet about the gun-crazed country of Switzerland who are also fully armed. So being a country of gun owners doesn`t make you necessarily a loopy nation undergoing a breakdown.
As yet, no calls for cars or knives to be banned, which surely cause more deaths than this I.S tribute act in Vegas do.
Has anyone pointed out that in America murder is illegal?
That should have stopped the gunman
Switzerland has a lot of guns but I don’t recall meeting a “gun-crazed” Swiss. Some men in America seem to have a lot of ego invested in guns, or convertible guns, that go way beyond what is necessary. I’ve met a few, they dress up like children. Pathetic.
Who is in charge of the Government of the UK? Boris Johnson must be sacked to prevent Brexit negotiations breaking down, warns senior MEP (Manfred Weber, a key ally of German Chancellor Angela Merkel)
‘Please sack Johnson because we need a clear answer who is responsible for the British position’
…
“There is a lack of clarity, there is even disunity. There are oppositions between Hammond and Fox. There are divisions between Johnson and May,” Mr Verhofstadt said.
…
Some senior Tories believe that Mr Johnson is deliberately attempting to set Mrs May up to fail by making demands that Brussels will never agree to.
– Barnier or Verhofstadt or Merkel (via Manfred Weber) or Juncker or Tusk? Who is in charge?
– ‘United in diversity’ (of thought and leadership)?
Barnier points out that no progress has been made in Brexit negotiations – and May and Davis can’t agree… again. {twitter}
M & S pushing #MoreEqualThanOthers & off on the diversity bandwagon.
Did M&S (Retail) publish what percentages they are after for their utopian (nowhere) view {twitter} of the World like the BBC did?
“By 2020, the BBC wants its employees to comprise 50% women, 8% disabled people, 8% lesbian, gay, bisexual or transgender people and 15% people from black, Asian and ethnic minority backgrounds.{bbc.co.uk 14sep2017}”
“and 15% people from black, Asian and ethnic minority backgrounds.”
Or, in other words, black.
We are all equal, but some (Women,Gays,BME) are more deserving of employment than others.
George Orwell was a genius because he saw how the World is, not how he wanted it to be.
im looking forward to the pikey presenter
and do we have polish one yet
No but they recently recruited a senior female exec who has now just extended her maternity leave.
BBC Dept’s when downsizing would probably keep a less talented black gay disabled woman and make redundant a better white man, thus ticking the boxes.
Blind immigration judge ‘had no idea of the law or his own powers’ says panel after 12 out of 13 appeals against his rulings succeed {dailymail.co.uk oct2017}
“As a result, every one of the decisions under appeal shows error in law, in most cases serious error, in most cases multiple serious errors.'”
– Some are more deserving than others, a bit more equal.
I stopped shopping in M & S when they changed their suppliers from British ones to Third World ones.
I was not prepared to pay the same price as a quality British product for some tat made in a sweatshop in Bangladesh or some such dump.
I gave up on them when they got Tracy Emin in to represent the women that they hoped might shop with them.
I walked out, as did so many of my friends…we`ll never go back.
BBC R4 lunchtime news today reported that Amber Rudd is to announce that the Tories will beef up the law on online terror material. Currently it is an offence to download such material. Soon it will be an offence merely to view it, even if you don’t download it.
This was presented as self-evidently a good thing, even though there are any number of ways in which it isn’t:
* how do you know whether a publication is terrorist or not until after you’ve viewed it?
* don’t these publications reveal the truth about our enemies who publish it? On that basis, the more of us who see it, the better;
* having established the principle, to what other types of content will Rudd & Co wish to apply it?
Another freedom snatched away in the name of Security.
Tom,
“Rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic”.
Simply one more rearrangement……………
G, looking like 1992-1997 all over again.
What about offline material? So much harder to find …
After Manchester attacks 2017 … man finds evidence of hate of Western Ideals in a Mosque “Direct from Didsbury mosque this is a leaflet that I was given on an open day and this says living in a society in which people have accepted Western lifestyle as their way of life brings immorality at every step” – [youtube - BBC Question Time 25May2017 @ 25m49s]”
“What more do you want?” – the evidence is there if the Government would like to see it!
– Amber Rudd could nip in after her conference talks … The Didsbury Mosque, and the Manchester Islamic Centre, are co-located on Burton Road, West Didsbury, in Manchester, England.
Tom,
Online terror material -as defined by who? The loopy loonies in government who want to criminalise their own people at every opportunity?
We know they won’t ban the Koran. So why the commotion over “online terror material”
The Koran just needs to move from non-fiction to fiction. No need for a ban.
MarkyMark
Same with the Burker and all the other junk. Just remove threats and prosecutions for taking the piss out of them. Fairly soon people would drift away and only the lefties from the yoonies would accept it.
Nothing like the wit of British people for combating an intellectual malady
Mark,
In reality, I wouldn’t want a ban on it. It’s information. We should know what our enemy is up to.
Any fool knows they don’t use conventional aps. They use encrypted and transitory connections and the likes of those that will not permit a back door for GCHQ.
Tom,
Your last point is the one which we need to worry about. I have every expectation that the government will follow the German line and use this law to make illegal criticism of Islam.
Not a good word about Farage here in the article and numerous comments beneath –
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2017/09/ukip-rejects-anti-sharia-leadership-candidate-new-leader-wants-to-move-away-from-the-focus-on-islam
CEO of failed airline Monarch, one Andrew Swaffield, bravely appeared on R4 Today this morning. I thought he did well in difficult circumstances.
Inter alia Swaffield explained that Islamist terrorism was the root cause of the airline’s downfall. Bookings to once-popular holiday destinations in the Middle East and North Africa had been decimated, whilst competition on European routes had intensified, depressing fares and profitability.
“We won’t let terrorism affect our way of life” our leaders keep telling us. Tell that to Monarch’s 1,858 former employees.
Meanwhile Transport Secretary Chris Grayling has described the operation to repatriate 110,000 Monarch passengers stranded overseas as “the biggest ever peacetime repatriation”. A CAA(?) spokeswoman on R4 Today made the same claim yesterday, but failed to give a clear answer as to who would be picking up the tab.
“We won’t let terrorism affect our way of life”.
– Monarch’s 1,858 former employees. (jobs gone)
– 110,000 Monarch passengers stranded overseas. (personal security of citizens)
– Loss of future earnings and a carrier
– UK Tax payer to pay for repatriation (£1 billion+)
“We won’t let terrorism affect our way of life”
Thirty-eight people lost their lives when a gunman (Seifeddine Rezgui) opened fire on tourists staying in the popular resort of Port El Kantaoui, just north of Sousse in Tunisia on 26 June 2015.{bbc.co.uk 01feb2017}
General Question – for those in the know.
How do I access old stories from the BBC’s England regional news section?
Example “Birmingham & Black Country” – this BBC news webpage only lists the latest stories which currently means from 2 October 2017 onward. How do I find the list for 1 October 2017 and earlier? Is there a way to do this from the BBC website? Ideally I would like to get a list of news stories in chronological order. Thanks.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/england/birmingham_and_black_country
Try this in the google search box:
site:bbc.co.uk Birmingham
The “site:” at the front tells google what site to search.
Click on ‘news’ section to see just news articles.
You search by date range by clicking on ‘TOOLS’ and then select ‘Recent’ and change this to a Custom – date range.
Some pages like Linconshire News live will get wiped by today’s news
So click the down triangle next to the link in the search results and selected cached version.
Always search on Twitter first.
The BBC search engine is both a complete mystery and a wonder to behold. It manages to hit the item you want exactly 0% of the time.
The BBC website has an article about a woman forced out of her job due to giving birth. In typically honest style, a false name is used so key facts of the story could be fabricated.
What is so annoying about the SJW mindset which infects the Beeb is how black and white it is: women and ethnic minorities can only ever be victims, for example. Reality is far more complex; political correctness has all the intellectual rigour of a nursery rhyme.
My brother had to employ a nanny. She took the job knowing she was pregnant. A month in she went off on maternity leave and he had to pay her in full! He is self-employed and not some vast company who could afford this. His wife then had to quit her job to look after the boys and the whole sorry saga caused him all manner of hardship – mainly the effect it had on his wife’s earning potential!
What a bitch that nanny was for taking the job knowing she would only work a month then leech full maternity pay off a hard-working family. Though equalities law can indeed protect the vulnerable, it can also be used by the lazy and unscrupulous to exploit decent people.
I wonder if the Beeb would run with this story – a nasty woman forced another woman out of her job? It would not fit the narrative. Just like the ‘hate’ crime which turned out to have been perpetrated by an immigrant against another immigrant.
“My brother had to employ a nanny.” No he didn’t – he CHOSE to employ one, apparently without taking the trouble to find out what might be his responsibilities as an employer.
Neither did he have to pay her maternity pay if he had employed her for just a month:
“Statutory maternity pay (SMP) is a weekly payment from your employer. You’ll only be able to claim it if: You’ve been working for the same employer without a break for at least 26 weeks. You can measure these 26 weeks against the end of the 15th week before the week your baby is due.”
You then say: “His wife had to quit her job to look after the boys.” Surely his wife could simply have taken maternity leave (and maternity pay) without quitting her job?
Frankly your story is full of holes, and provides no basis for your closing pop at immigrants. It undermines the effectiveness of this site by enabling fans of Al Beeb to mis-characterise us as right-wing buffoons. Please think before posting.
Plus they must give you 15 weeks notice before they take maternity leave
Plus the gov pays much of the cost.
\\ All employers can claim back at least 92 per cent of the maternity pay given to employees.
But employees who paid less than £45,000 in Class 1 National Insurance Contributions last year – likely to be small business owners like you – can actually claim back 103 per cent of the maternity pay.
Criteria for eligibility and payment calculations can be complicated, so you can use the government’s online calculator to do it. //
Dianne Abbot in charge of immigration as the next Home Secretary – now there is a scary thought. Here Dianne Abbott says it is inhumane of the British Home Office to leave all these Islamic immigrant claimants without British passports. It seems they can get a working visa and then after five years claim “indefinite leave to remain” in Britain for themselves and their families.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-41096675
If that woman becomes Home Secretary the country will face its deepest crisis since 1940.
Expect nationwide systematic oppression of heterosexual white males.
Do you mean the “H-” minority group which is everyone except heterosexuals.
Saves on all that typing of LGBTTQQIAAP
…
The initialism LGBTTQQIAAP (lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, transsexual, queer, questioning, intersex, asexual, ally, pansexual) has also resulted, although such initialisms are sometimes criticized for being confusing and leaving some people out, as well as issues of placement of the letters within the new title. However, adding the term “allies” to the initialism has sparked controversy, with some seeing the inclusion of “ally” in place of “asexual” as a form of asexual erasure. There is also the acronym QUILTBAG (queer and questioning, intersex, lesbian, transgender and two-spirit, bisexual, asexual and ally, and gay and genderqueer).
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“To site the other person you just said that would *trigger you Sam Harris*, Mark Steyn said this the other day, *this is the conversation we will be having when the Mullahs nuke us*.Everyone will be discussing if someone is transgender despite the fact they’ve had no operation (ref Jack Monroe in UK)” – Douglas Murray
What’s wrong with LGBTWTFIT?
Name of donor: Muslim Charities Forum (Register of Members’ Interests – Diane Abbott)
Destination of visit: Somaliland (7-10 April 2016)
Purpose of visit: to visit the different refugee camps and charities (development) in regards to the severe drought in Somaliland.
Britain no longer rules the waves, which surely pleases the lefties, or is swimming in treasure.
We face serious economic challenges and have significant health, social care and security issues.
So why does this small island have to be responsible for the World’s misfortunes?
Sounds very White Colonial to me so the lefty imperialists need to reconsider and shove it up their supremacist blow holes.
Oh dear, more amnesty on it’s way. I cannot see a figure in the article regarding ‘Home Office visa delays ‘inhumane’ – is it 10 people, 100 people , 2 million people?
If their visas have expired then shouldn’t they go home and reapply? You know , follow the laws of the country?
It’s official – the EU has condemned us for not rolling over for them. Seems like what they have in their mind is the rape of this country. I hear rape is very popular in the EU.
Anyhow they happy for us to leave so long as we don’t change anything, pay them money and disadvantage ourselves at every turn. Being nice to the EU is like being nice to the bbc and the lefties – pointless.
Shine up those heels Theresa and start walkin’.
gaxvil “Shine up those heels Theresa and start walkin’.”
Yep, I won’t go back to Egypt!
Yes, I won’t go back to Egypt!
I won’t go back to Egypt!
Won’t be a slave no more
There’s a better place
A sweeter space
Beyond the Jordan’s shores.
No, I won’t go back to EUgypt!
Lemme see the Jordan ‘fore I die
I need to see the Promised Land
Help me across to t’other side.
No, I won’t go back to Egypt!
I won’t go back to Egypt!
Won’t be a slave no more
There’s a better place
A sweeter space
Beyond the Jordan’s shores.
God’s freed me for a purpose
To fill another land
The Cloud and Fire will lead me there
Under His powerful Lovin’ hand
No, I won’t go back to Egypt!
I won’t go back to Egypt!
Won’t be a slave no more
There’s a better place
A sweeter space
Beyond the Jordan’s shores.
Another excuse for me to post……
Juncker’s army can drown in the English Channel.
Lucy, 😉 🙂
… some more verses may follow.
Frantic writing in 15min edit time – gotta go lie down awhile.
… when the Muse strikes …?
The milk’s awalkin’ in the meadow
The honey’s hummin’ in the breeze
I’m thirsty in a desert
But I’ll get there on my knees
No, I won’t go back to Egypt
I won’t go back to Egypt
Won’t be a slave no more
There’s a better place
A sweeter space
Beyond the Jordan’s shores.
You may wriggle and moan
And start to turn away
My face is set to fire and rain
I’ll follow it night and day.
No, I won’t go back to Egypt
I won’t go back to Egypt
Won’t be a slave no more
There’s a better place
A sweeter space
Beyond the Jordan’s shores.
That land has giants
And I’m weak and small
I’ve seen our Captain in the lead
Let’s hear that trumpet call!
No, I won’t go back to Egypt
I won’t go back to Egypt
Won’t be a slave no more
There’s a better place
A sweeter space
Beyond the Jordan’s shores.
No, I won’t go back to Egypt
I won’t go back to Egypt
Won’t be a slave no more
There’s a better place
A sweeter space
Beyond the Jordan’s shores.
(Now I’m goin’ to lie down – next year and the year after: out of Brussels and in Jerusalem/London/Cardiff/Edinburgh/Belfast!)
The flag of Egypt as a British Protectorate from 1914 to 1922
Surely it Bradford Metropolitan council’ s flag.
One of the problems in ruling Egypt was that foreign nationals were subject to the laws of their own country not those of Egypt, and of course they could change their designated country as often as seemed expedient. This was under a series of treaties known as the Capitulations.
“Capitulation, in the history of international law, any treaty whereby one state permitted another to exercise extraterritorial jurisdiction over its own nationals within the former state’s boundaries. Later capitulations, which in the case of China and other Asian states resulted from military pressure by European states, came to be regarded as (and, in effect, were) humiliating derogations from the sovereignty and equality of these states. ”
https://www.britannica.com/topic/capitulation
This seems very similar to the Brexit demands of the EU, that EU nationals be subject to ECJ rulings rather than those of the British courts. Not that the BBC would ever dream of calling the EU demands by their correct name – capitulations.
Think that the EU(might have been the UN) have warned IS that they will end up in the Hague under war crimes tribunals…maybe, if they carry on as they`re doing.
This is the law in 2017 for international bodies like the EU. IS muct be quaking. To be fair to them, we too need to laugh and belch in the direction of Junckers drunks with their “condemnations”.
We need to get trading now with the rest of the world and be the European “neighbour from hell” for them. That`s the only way we`ll ever hear sense from these pervy pygmies in Strasbourg.
May needs to get off her knees , and set the dogs onto them.
They seem to hate Boris, so send Farage with him to Brussels with a stetson and a map of the commonwealth.
No sense of humour over there-so let`s use it to drive the Euro into the Med.
What next ? 103% of people in Scotland will vote for Nicola Sturgeon ?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-41484153
First rule of journalism is that you don’t just accept extraordinary claims, you test them.
If some dictator claimed 99% of people in his country support him, would the BBC accept that ?
Now there are 7million people. In Scotland , the 99% result would be about 1% of population bothering to submit a comment and almost them voting against.
And only 600 people ie 0.01% of population expressing for fracking
Seems fishy to me.
Paul Kagame re-elected president with 99% of vote in Rwanda election {05aug2017}
“Former guerrilla leader praised for bringing stability and growth after genocide but criticised as authoritarian wins third term”
– 99% is what World leaders dream of getting for a vote!
– Wonder what the 1% thought?
– The European Union official was very happy ….
‘“The world has important lessons to learn from Rwanda,” gushed a European Union official. Embassy observers hailed it as the most orderly vote they had witnessed in their careers.{theguardian 03jan2016}‘
Rwanda election: President Paul Kagame wins by landslide {bbc.co.uk 05aug2017}
– Notice how BBC use word ‘landslide’ rather than 98.63%. Alarm bells would ring with such a high figure.
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And activists are struggling to have 51%
I find the figures quite believable.
When governments ‘consult’ they frequently publish massive papers that cross-refer to each other. They then hide these away so that the vast majority of the public don’t even know that they exist.
To further control the process the ‘consultation’ is reduced to returning a questionaire which only allows one to comment against Document Three, Section Nine, Clause 15.0.3 etc. If one troubles to find that clause it will be found to refer to a Schedule In Document Six, Section Ten, Annex C and so it continues.
Unsuprisingly the only people who will respond in favour of fracking, say, are the legal team working for the fracking company. On the other side various ‘environmental’ groups will have circulated model responses to all of their members. The members won’t have had to actually read any of the consultation dross, they just ‘top and tail’ the model submision.
The whole process is designed to deter dissent.
What is really sad is that the civil servants that prepare this tosh are lazy and lack diligence. Any amateur that is prepared to waste days of their lives will soon find that the cross-links frequently break as the consultation documents will be cut-and-paste from previous works and no-one will have bothered to check for internal consistencies.
But then one knows that the buggers will do what they want to do anyway.
Guess Turkey are having the last laugh against the EU Millions of metres of dangerous cable ‘in homes across UK’ {bbc.co.uk 03oct2017}
“In 2010 it was discovered Atlas Kablo, a now-defunct Turkish company, had sold 11 million metres of cable that posed a potential fire risk in the UK.”
“If Europe continues this way (banned Turkish officials from campaigning in Germany & Netherlands), no European in any part of the world can walk safely on the streets,” Mr Erdogan told journalists in Ankara. {independent.co.uk 22mar2017} – or be safe in their own homes, he could have added!
Last 3 items on Radio 4
4:30 pm Book prog
#1 Talking about Jeremy Thorpe MP being gay
#2 next discussed Jan Morris, Transexual travel writers book about transitioning
#3 Trailer before 5pm News : Cebrates a special programme to celebrate 1917 Communist revolution.
Agenda agenda agenda
Jan Morris is from another era.
The trans fatties with their knuckle dusters could learn a lot from her.
SG
Thorpe, you say.
Who can forget The Sun headline “Scott of the arse antics.”
Maybe the embers of enlightenment glowed a bit brighter today … And if we can drive on that great cause of female empowerment and education, the Swiss army knife that solves so many problems, then I believe we will eventually find a cure for the psychological contamination of radical Islamist extremism. Just as we have eradicated smallpox and polio. {order-order.com 03oct2017}