Is ‘Fake News’ Fake News?

 

The Guardian wants to know what it can do to promote accurate, unbiased, accountable journalism, and the Social Media, saints or sinners?…it has a conference to discuss the issues…sorry, a ‘summit’….far more important than a mere conference….

The Guardian’s flagship summit returns on 7 March 2018 to look at responsibility against a backdrop of rapid change, and discuss how publishers and brands can best serve their audience and consumers.

View the latest programme here and list of speakers here.

As​ ​the​ ​mainstream​ ​media​ ​faces ​increasing​ ​accusations​ ​of​ ​bias​ ​and misinformation,​ ​we’re asking what constitutes balance in news?​ ​And as​ ​new​ ​and​ ​independent​ outlets​ ​make​ ​headway, how​ ​can​ ​they work with the mainstream​ ​to​ ​best​ ​serve​ ​readers​ ​and​ ​the​ ​public?

As news and information consumption changes, social media platforms are are finding themselves under more scrutiny than ever before​.​ ​So what​ ​responsibility​ ​do these platforms have for​ ​the​ ​content​ ​they​ ​host?​ ​Should​ ​they​ ​be judged​ ​by​ ​the​ ​same​ ​standards​ ​as​ ​news​ ​providers?

Unfortunately the conference’s opening keynote speaker is…Paul Mason, radical, hysterical and bonkers….and once fanatical fan of activist social media…now?

Emily Maitliss is there…relegated to moderating the discussion on women’s issues….nice bit of sexism from the Guardian there….lot of white faces as well.

And of course Nick Robinson will be on hand to give us his unbiased thoughts on balance and bias in the media…no bias in the question at all…..

9.20 – 9.50 Transparency, objectivity and the new media landscape

During both the American presidential election and Brexit campaign, media owners faced a dilemma over showing balance in their coverage and giving credence to false claims – so in the post-truth age, why aren’t all ‘facts’ equal? And who are the new media players staking a claim in a more divided world?

  • Moderator: Polly Curtis, editor-in-chief, HuffPost UK

  • Nick Robinson, presenter, BBC Today programme

  • Matt Kelly, editor, The New European and head of content, Archant

  • Sacha Berlik, managing director, The Trade Desk

Can’t wait for the video…and no doubt Robinson will be back in the papers treating us to more reassurances that the BBC is the finest and most trustworthy news provider worldwide and stoutly defending it agaiinst all claims of bias and partisan reporting.  He has to do this by written word in the Press as he can’t talk on the radio with his tongue so firmly in his cheek.

Also look forward to seeing all those BBC ‘outside contractors’ getting their tax bills now they are deemed employees by HMRC.  Blooming tax dodgers.

 

 

 

 

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24 Responses to Is ‘Fake News’ Fake News?

  1. NCBBC says:

    Possibly the greatest thing anyone has done for freedom and liberty in the last 40 years is Pres Trump calling out on the lies, deception, fraud that was being perpetrated by giant media organisations on a sleeping public. If Clinton was in the White House, this insiduous deception, fakery and lies would have become embedded in algorithms of the entire News disseminatiom system of GoogleFacebookTwitter conglomerate – a real Big Brother.

    Pres Trump has woken the people about the reality of “Fake news”. He has brought the whole house of cards crashing down. That is possibly the real reason that the media so hate him, and will do anything to bring him down. Of course the media, in America is wholly owned by the corporate and finance structure. Its in their interest to keep the the panto show going. No wonder they hate him, which is then reflected in the mass media.

    But this Orwellian snake is not going to give up. Its pretending that blog sites such as this one, and others such as Breitbart, are to blame. The reality is that it is GoogleFacebookTwitter, Reuters and AP, that have to be broken up using anti-Trust laws.

    In the UK, the tax payer funded Radio Moscow BBC wins the prize for Fake news. There is no serious opposition when BBC is state funded to the tune of £3.7bn. BBC has to be broken up if Britain is to survive as a free country, rather then as a lefty marxist satrapy based on the doctrine that has killed more people then the Nazis.

    The Guardian wants to know what it can do to promote accurate, unbiased, accountable journalism, and the Social Media, saints or sinners?
    Well it did take a step in the right direction, albeit forced to, when it had to stop its print editions.

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    • Fedup2 says:

      NC

      I hope they are going to define fake news. Is it just stuff someone doesn’t agree with because it doesn’t accord with their view of the world ?

      Or is it the sort of bias we document here ,
      The promotion of views to the exclusion of others – such as anti trump anti brexit

      The omission of facts which do no support a view – such as Muslim paedophilia

      Or omission of reporting events at all which do not support the editorial view ( such as the killing of a”British” isis terrorist by drone recently ).

      This summit will focus on Russia and Murdock and Fox News, they’ll nod sagely and then get a tax paid taxi home – all within their bubble

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      • sharethedebate says:

        Real Guardian reporters see Offguardian website. Fake Guardian funded by Soros and they and BBC use Soros software Fullfact to fact check!!!!! No wonder we get no real journalists reporting. George Webb utube daily webcast reporting I follow and Judicial Watch for US news.

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      • sharethedebate says:

        Guardian part of the Soros funded Project Syndicate giving ‘real news’ to journalists also used by BBC. Once you know the tentacles of Soros in the media we have a real battle on. See OffGuardian website, this is where the real investigative reporters are. And of course this site to counter BBC propaganda.

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    • Holly Selassie says:

      Yep, I for one know now about the media ship that Trump has holed below its waterline.
      Before he came along, only those who came to sites like this knew-although there was an uneasy feeling about what they were getting fed. But now everybody I know is aware of the BBCs agenda, particularly in trashing its opposition like RT, Fox and Breitbart.
      Nobody believes the BBC-and nearly everyone is ware that the BBC only say what is meant to promote Islam, immigration, get Trump impeached or killed-and keep us in the burning building that is now the European Union.
      Now we know-there`s no need to bother with them again, Fake Flake News.

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  2. Guest Who says:

    A Graun summit on fake news with as representative contributors of the nation and its media Paul Mason, HuffPo, The New European and….Nick Robinson?

    Uh-huh.

    Rob Burley going to have his work cut out pitching that as impartial on Twitter, but one is sure he’s up for it.

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  3. Guest Who says:

    Here’s a post liked by Paul Mason, where the bbc media editor synergises with the FBI (the bit the bbc likes; not the bit messing up):

    And here is an ex-bbc anchor in full flow:

    https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2017/02/james-obrien-spreading-fake-news-via-bbc-must-watch/

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  4. vesnadog says:

    “The Guardian wants to know what it can do to promote accurate, unbiased, accountable journalism”

    What a joke!

    When I posted a message on one of their threads the very week the Yorkshire/Muslim child prostitute broke I posted a message:

    This is just the tip of the iceberg.

    It was deleted straight away! And ever since most of my comments never appeared on said threads.

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    • Fedup2 says:

      I suppose that whilst we busily pour vitriol over al beeb presenters the real sinners are the editors – and their chiefs who set the agenda and style each day.
      They are not accountable at all because there is no direct public contact . The left hate the editor of The Daily Mail -Paul Dacre -is it? But there is no reciprocation about the( New ) editor of Toady yet alone the WATO – the 5 pm news Or the Workd tonight . , week in Westminster , Westminster Hour, that thing with Patrick O’Connell on Sunday mornings – yet alone TV output .

      There doesn’t seem to be accountability in viewing – listening figures due to the comfort blanket of public compulsory taxation without representation

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      • Holly Selassie says:

        Good points Fedup2.
        Has there EVER been a BBC programme that shows us who these faceless news setters are?
        How they choose, what when and why?
        Why is Corbyns link with Czech spy networks not news-but Tom Daley “having a baby” is deemed news?
        Be good to film how they decide what we need to know.
        S`pose they feel it would be wrong to let sunlight in on the magic circles at the BBC and Guardian.
        They seem awfully good at getting into Premier Inns, JB Sports and Food Processing plants(never halal though)-less good at getting into their own editing suites and morning conference calls to the Guardian or Momentum.

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        • Fedup2 says:

          Holly
          I reckon al Beeb thinks that McDonnell Corbin will win the next one so won’t highlight any eastern block stock story.

          The comrades must have looked at Corbin and thought “ what a soft Western European wimp” he won’t be any good to us – but msdonald – a far more promising vessel.

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Ves -I tried do battle where comment is free but got such frightening responses that I pulled the plug .

      It was fun – a bit- because I could feel the anger at the deviation from their world and the lack of anything like a discussion – just people shouting out really

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    • NCBBC says:

      On Islam and terrorism or rape of Infidel women, the Guardian simply closes “Comments are free”, as they are now well aware that even confirmed Guardianistas are not following the party line on Islam.

      So much for ” Free comment”. More like “compelled free speech”.

      The sheer horror of tens of thousands (possibly 50,000, as the number is being massaged), of rapes of young Infidel girls by Muslims, with connivance by the authorities, has no parallel in history. The reason is that there has never been a regime in all history anywhere of such cowardice and depraved morality, that allowed the rape and possible buggery of its own children. I cant think of a suitable punishment for such a crime. Which means perpetrators, connivers and silence by the media, all go free.

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    • NCBBC says:

      SHOULD ANTI-TRUST LAWS BE USED TO BREAK UP THE SOCIAL MEDIA GIANTS?
      Google, Facebook and the rest wield more power than most governments.

      https://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/267758/should-anti-trust-laws-be-used-break-social-media-robert-spencer

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  5. DownBoy says:

    “The Guardian wants to know what it can do to promote accurate, unbiased, accountable journalism”

    Close yourselves down!

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  6. djaym says:

    Emily Maitliss ?

    This Emily Maitliss ??

    https://order-order.com/2018/02/16/maitlis-stripper/

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  7. Richard Pinder says:

    The good thing about BBC Climate science censorship is that it has forced scientists to do their own journalism. From this you get emails showing how the BBC produces fake news through the process of censorship of information, lies from people with vested interests, deception to drown out the truth and pushing fraud in the form of assumptions presented as facts.

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  8. Oaknash says:

    The Guardian wants to know what it can do to promote accurate, unbiased, accountable journalism, on the Social Media.
    Mmmmmmm – Methinks the Gaurdian doth complain too much.

    The conclusion will be of course be tighter controls on the internet to control people and organisations such as Breitbart and Rebel Media where we are forced to go to because the MSM has sold out to the views of the likes of Soras and the EU and no longer wishes to tell us the truth.

    I always love the way these totally biased and scheming left wing outlets such as the Guardian set themselves up as the wide eyed virtuous “arbiters of truth and unbiased journalism” whilst doing exactly the opposite. We had the same bollocks with the BBC last year.

    All I can think is that it is some sort of echo chamber self justification exercise where they just bore the pants off each other expressing confected concern, because what in effect has happened is that these people have been rumbled and shown up to be the charlatans we all know they truly are. So now they think they can put the genie back in the bottle by shutting us up.

    With the likes of Robinson and Polly Curtis (Huff Post) as moderator I expect it will end up like a Flat Earth Society AGM. Everyone in earnest agreement on what is essentially bullshit. But dangerous bullshit because they still have a lot of influence.

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Oak
      Amongst many other things -I’ve given up al Guardian for lent . Anyway I would have thought the best thing al Guardian could do is open up comment on all the things it reports. Any regular will notice that there is no comment on the more sensitive stories it reports

      The al Guardian summit will be a classic groupthink that there really is no problem and to carry on and before .

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  9. NCBBC says:

    Walking through Morrisons this evening, my eye caught this

    Corbyn ‘The Collaborator’: Czech Communist spy reveals how he recruited Labour leader in the Cold War and used him as an ‘asset’ to create network of informants in Russian operation

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5401097/Jeremy-Corbyn-paid-Czech-secret-police-spy-claims.html#ixzz57OrXu9ge

    So Googled “Jeremy Corbyn communist spy + BBC”

    Have a look. Nothing.

    Now if Trump had allegedly spied for the communists, you wouldnt hear the end of it.

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  10. Annunaki says:

    A stunning silence in the mainstream media ???
    A PROBE has been launched into an alleged grooming ring targeting teenagers in Glasgow’s city centre.

    Girls as young as 14 are thought to have been targeted by men hanging around the four corners area of the city – at the junction of Argyle Street and Union Street.

    Officers are investigating the claims after relatives of one of the victims contacted the authorities.

    A social work source told the Evening Times the area is “rife” with child exploitation problems.

    One of the victims, a 17-year-old girl, is understood to have been taken to houses in Govanhill and Dennistoun for sex with multiple men, but believes the man who took her there was her boyfriend.

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  11. gb123 says:

    The Guardian wants to know what it can do to promote accurate, unbiased, accountable journalism.

    Quite simple. Close down.

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