719 Responses to Weekend Open Thread

  1. StewGreen says:

    Times : Liberals are undermining western civilisation by Prof robert tombs
    \\ Progressive critics should not abuse the freedoms that our chequered history has given us //

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    • MarkyMark says:

      ‘freedoms that our chequered history’ – rather than totalitarian history that a theocracy gives you.

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    • Richard Pinder says:

      “Give the electorate a referendum on the abolition of the House of Lords”
      Is just short of 100,000, with some polling evidence showing a massive 96% support for abolition. https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/209433

      The House of Lords was abolished in 1649 because it wasn’t democratic enough for the 17th Century. Once we leave the undemocratic EU, we will still have the embarrassment of an elitist House of Lords, making Britain not a fully democratic nation. The uneducated people of France would have chopped the heads off the rich elitist Lords many years ago. So would have the uneducated Black Slaves of the West Indies and then the uneducated Russians. Now it’s the chance for those refused a proper education, with the reintroduction of illiteracy, by the abolition of Grammar Schools and progressive education in the 1960‘s, to rise up and take revenge against the rich (on the back of the taxpayer) liberal fascist elite.

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      • fakenewswatcher says:

        Richard: I agree entirely with your assessment of the House of Lords. I think this challenge is a big one, which – given how the Powers that Be are wrestling with implementing the people’s vote for Brexit- they haven’t the courage or the skill (never mind the desire) to address.
        I also agree about the effect of Grammar schools. They stir envy in the ‘equality’ brigade, and rational thinking goes out of the window.
        However, for getting rid of the House of Lords , we can see from the example of Ghandi that the non-violent method works as well. The petition is a start.
        The puffed-up wearers of ermine know they’re undemocratic and a hangover from the past. But it’s comfy at the trough, hearing the sound of your own voice, whenever desired. Those turkeys won’t vote for Christmas. They may not appreciate your trying to disturb their pleasant dreams.
        Let’s concentrate on Brexit- step1. Let’s also think about how our democratic Upper House will look in practice. Step2 is to get rid of them; when they see popular support for a democratic and viable blueprint, they’ll soon wake up and vacate. It may take another referendum.
        Until then, stay cool.

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        • taffman says:

          fakenewswatcher
          The Dead Politicians Society, where all retired politicians go to get an afternoon nap and pick up their ‘pensions’.
          Get rid of em !

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          • fakenewswatcher says:

            We are in agreement, Taffman.
            So, what would you like to see in their place?

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            • taffman says:

              An elected body that believes in a democratic vote – The Referendum . Simples .

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              • fakenewswatcher says:

                Taffman- So only a ‘lower’ house, then? Any implication for a ‘balance of powers’? (I don’t necessarily disagree. I merely ask. We probably agree also, that the present system of ‘ping-pong’ is a farce…perhaps those in the ‘lower house’ are hoping to have a future career/pension supplement in the ‘upper’ when they are voted out, so are happy to keep it up?)

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                • taffman says:

                  “Upper” and “Lower”, both elected .

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                  • fakenewswatcher says:

                    OK then, Taffman. Nothing prevents this site from generating a vision for how that ‘upper’ will look. I suggested above, the real reason why the present ‘Commons’ may not like an elected ‘upper’, but they’re unlikely to admit it.
                    The tricky part will be to keep it simple and avoid lots of little additional layers of government. For instance, if regional devolution took place in England and all those little devolved governments + Scot, Wales etc somehow became the upper house, we would go under the deadweight. (Why the NE chose not to go that way?)
                    Part of the problem is that the lower house is also way too big. (They know that too).

                    If it were considerably smaller, and a much smaller regionally-based pattern became the ‘upper’, that might work. This is merely one option.
                    The ‘lowers’ will complain they already have too much work to be reduced in size.
                    Is that’s because they increasingly have become ‘social workers’? And/or they have too much time off? Too much leeway to appoint relatives and friends as staff (inefficient?)
                    So:
                    -two houses, with strict limits to size;
                    -democratically elected; upper house: unitary or regionally-based?
                    -professional staff to do a lot of the ‘social work’;
                    -perks and expenses too generous, eg ‘second’ homes – should be reviewed.

                    All of this a purely suggestion to be shot down. I’ve tried to explain why, if you ‘get rid’ of the ‘Lords’, the Commons may be your real opposition. So, not that simple?
                    Can be done but they won’t like it.
                    Some concrete models may help them. If they know not everyone out here is happy with bread and circuses, & are thinking constructively, that may help too.

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          • deegee says:

            Current and Future Peers Abbott and Chakrabarti
            Shami-and-Dianne-3.png

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        • MarkyMark says:

          One Lord removed equals one new nurse in the NHS.

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  2. StewGreen says:

    Racially motivated robbery/murder
    Britexpat shot dead after five armed men stormed family BBQ in #SouthAfrica
    Grandmother : Heila Kilian died brother in law. And wife survived
    Will BBC report ?
    https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/british-family-reunion-barbecue-south-12401676

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  3. StewGreen says:

    Telford story : ‘ 3 white abusers sat in councils”
    Is this spin ?
    Cos for a time period of the last 40 years you will find white abusers who’ll be high profile.
    Cos of gangs there a 1000 victims in Telford yet this story is about 3 churchmen
    And 2 victims
    For victim #1 the 2 men got 1 year each in 2001 , for groom/ assaulting a 15 year old boy
    For victim #2 a man got a 3 year rehabilitation order for taking indecent photos of a 14 year old girl
    Sick men, but not same scale as groom/rape gangs

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  4. Beeb Brother says:

    They have an entire season devoted to ‘Crossing Divides.’

    I feel physically sick just thinking about it. I imagine yet another all out offensive against reality. Rape gangs; ‘diversity’ valued over character; London a war zone; perpetual threat of terrorism; et cetera. And it is getting worse all the time. They should call it ‘Entrenching Divides.’

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  5. taffman says:

    “Brexit: Government insists UK will leave customs union”
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-43860453
    I thought we had left two years ago, that’s what we all voted for. What’s taking so long?
    Are Al Beeb trying to change our minds?
    They have plenty of EU Flags waving around on the TV but not many St George’s Flags.
    What ever happened to English patriotism ?
    http://www.itv.com/news/meridian/2018-04-23/the-most-popular-questions-about-st-georges-day/

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  6. G says:

    https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/209433
    @ 1628, almost 94,000 signed. Watching the counter rise and that rate is the same roughly as it was back at just on 60k. Brilliant. Let’s hope it continues to rise at the same rate.

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  7. StewGreen says:

    “BBC has announced The Big British Asian Summer season of programming. Lots of #Midlands stories in there”

    \\ The Big British Asian Summer will celebrate the cultural and artistic contribution of Asian Britons,
    and also explore the fault lines between white and non-white Britain
    – as this unique fusion of cultures hasn’t happened without tensions.//
    Code : we’ll bend over backwards to look at Asian positives AND white-British NEGATIVES.
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/mediacentre/latestnews/2018/big-british-asian-summer#heading-passengers

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  8. taffman says:

    Having been away for a few days I see that our online troll who loves an organisation that ‘robs from the poor to give to the rich’ is back in force, almost always like a cockroach in the darkest hour of the night.
    What on earth motivates him? He is an attention seeker, that’s what .

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  9. Sir_Arthur_Strebe-Grebling says:

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-43869377
    A national Stephen Lawrence Day to be held annually, Prime Minister announces.
    And I suppose on the other 364 days a year, we’ll remember all those black teenagers who are killed by other black teenagers.

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    • Tabs says:

      Is it going to be a Bank Holiday or just a load of bollox?

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    • taffman says:

      What about a PC Blakelock Day or a Fusilier Lee Rigby Day ?

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      • MarkyMark says:

        Everyone will want a ‘Stephen Lawrence Day’ … it’s only fair.

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      • RJ says:

        Or a Kriss Donald day – 15th March.

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        • StewGreen says:

          Kevin Crehan day : undeclared cause of death, whilst in care of prison authorities

          Or what about “The Don’t Hate white men day”

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    • Tabs says:

      Anyone remember Damilola Taylor? Probably a much more shocking murder than Stephen Lawrence as Damilola was 10 years old at the time.

      His killers were of that skin colour where it’s best to just forget about the whole thing and pretend it never happened.

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  10. StewGreen says:

    And when a BME discriminates against another BME the 87% non-BME public gets the bill.
    Tribunal has found against Baroness Scotland over dismissal of Ran Venuprasad.

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  11. vesnadog says:

    Where’s the BBC News when reports like the following come out of California?:

    “this is draconian legislation, and there is plenty to fear, including seeing books and Bibles eventually banned. As Robert A. J. Gagnon has just recently written on this:

    Sure, it is virtually impossible that the state of California will immediately attempt to ban the sale of the Bible itself. Not even the hard Left in California has that kind of chutzpah. But citations of Bible verses in the context of declaring homosexual practice and transgenderism to be morally debased could indeed get one into serious trouble with the law if it comes in the context of selling or advertising a product or service…

    The salient point is that there is nothing in the bill that would prevent the state from outlawing all religious or moral instruction that seeks to change homosexual behavior and transgender identity. The only limitation on the state is its own self-policed chutzpah regarding “LGBTQ” coercion.”

    https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/04/california-progressives-launch-another-attack-on-free-speech/

    “This is the latest step in California’s war against freedom, against faith, and against family. We all should be shocked and horrified at just how far down the gurgler California is going. The rainbow juggernaut continues to roll on, crushing anything in its path.”

    Bill Muehlenberg, Culture Watch.

    This is that bill: https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billTextClient.xhtml?bill_id=201720180AB2943

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  12. StewGreen says:

    Antisemitism party : Labour’s policy is that is antisemitic to compare the modern Israeli government to Nazis
    Nevertheless Labour have only just noticed that Corbyn’s Twitter account follows some profiles which do that. So they’ve started to unfollow them.

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    • MarkyMark says:

      Man makes dog do a Nazi salute and when saying ‘Gas the j3ws’ (sick) … fined £800 and dragged through court for 2 years.

      Man runs an organisation and increases membership to 570,000 costing new members £3 which is full of anti-semitism …. nothing, silence in the BBC even though a new case is found everyday.

      Welcome to 2018 … where stupidity makes everything possible.

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  13. StewGreen says:

    Trans – Psychiatrist comes out against puberty-blicker drugs
    Lucy Griffin said
    ‘They are designed specifically for very young children who start to go into puberty very early,
    Their use in older trans might lead to serious side effects like osteoporosis
    ..my colleagues are afraid if being labelled bigots’
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5642577/NHS-sex-change-drugs-putting-hundreds-children-risk-year.html

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    • MarkyMark says:

      When language is used to override reason.

      Wasn’t this what happened when witches could curse you with words and kill you on the spot (generally later … say 70 years time)?

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  14. Cassandra says:

    The BBC are proud to announce that Stephen Lawrence Day will be celebrated every 22nd April. Whoopsie fuking do.

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    • MarkyMark says:

      Now can the Government get on with “The current threat level for international terrorism in the UK is SEVERE.

      LOW means an attack is unlikely.
      MODERATE means an attack is possible, but not likely..
      SUBSTANTIAL means an attack is a strong possibility.
      SEVERE means an attack is highly likely.
      CRITICAL means an attack is expected imminently.

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    • Ian Rushlow says:

      But don’t expect anything to remember Britain’s most brutal and unambiguous racist murder, that of 15 year old Kriss Donald in Scotland on 15th March 2004 by Imran Shahid, Zeeshan Shahid and Mohammed Faisal Mushtaq. To quote the judge at the trial:
      “You have all been convicted by the jury of the racially aggravated abduction and murder of Kriss Donald, a wholly innocent 15-year-old boy of slight build. He was selected as your victim only because he was white and walking in a certain part of the Pollokshields area of Glasgow when you sought out a victim. This murder consisted of the premeditated, cold-blooded execution of your victim by stabbing him 13 times and setting him alight with petrol while he was still in life. It truly was an abomination. The savage and barbaric nature of this notorious crime has rightly shocked and appalled the public. Your victim must have been in a state of extreme terror while held by you during a four-hour car journey across Central Scotland and back, and the agony which he must have suffered during the period between being stabbed and set alight and his death is just beyond imagining.
      See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Kriss_Donald
      See nothing on the BBC website.

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      • MarkyMark says:

        How we want to forget … but should not. We not have a “Who was murdered on this day because of their race day?”.

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      • Lobster says:

        “The savage and barbaric nature of this notorious crime has rightly shocked and appalled the public.”
        The few who were aware of it, presumably. Compare and contrast the coverage the two murders received, both at the time and since.

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        • Nibor says:

          And the place . Perhaps the BBC think London murders are more important than Scottish murders . SNP where are you ?

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    • BRISSLES says:

      Strange language to use – ‘celebrated’. If his community want to ‘commemorate’ that day let them get on with it, but it won’t take off through the rest of the country. Its just lipservice by the government. I’m sure Twatter will be awash with similar views to those held on here, but we won’t get to hear them.

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  15. Fedup2 says:

    Happy Stephen Lawrence Day – screw St George – that’s yesterday’s Britain . Now we can play the ethnic victim sympathy day –

    You’ll be able to buy special Stephen Lawrence gift cards , a lottery , a statue , a whole albeeb radio station devoted to him and his family . And of course a Motion Picture Movie directed by Steven Spielberg or that black American film director with a
    chip .
    As for others murdered – they don’t count .

    I cannot believe a conservative PM could do something so over the top – but then she’s not really a Tory at all .

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    • Ian Rushlow says:

      “but then she’s not really a Tory at all.”
      Au contraire – like her predecessor, David Cameron, she is a true Tory i.e. stands for the interests of the rich and powerful. But she definitely is not a conservative – tradition and culture and history have absolutely zero meaning for her.

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      • Fedup2 says:

        James corden as the victim -.thandie newton as baroness Doreen and Lenny Henry as his dad. Danny dyer as the baddy. Cumberbatch as the racist bent incompetent overworked cop ( delete as applicable )

        This one really is beyond popcorn . It really couldn’t be made up .

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    • Tabs says:

      If they do make a movie then it is only fair that the actor playing Stephen should be white skinned – just for equality like the BBC bang on about all the bloody time.

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      • G.W.F. says:

        Taps
        And the gang who killed him should be played by black actors, led by Sir Henry Lenny, who will all have white wives and girl friends like our adverts portray British families. I am sure Lilly Allen and a few of her talented friends would be suitable

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    • MarkyMark says:

      Day of guilt. Day of hate.

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    • Nibor says:

      In the comedy series Fasier , there is a Frasier Crane Day .

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  16. tarien says:

    A Stephen Lawrence day-whatever next? Are there not so many awful things committed by coloured people including murder but those victims of such crimes are not accorded such an amount of publicity or recognition of a state mourning & a special day set aside. We are not, the millions of white people who live in this nation, without sympathy nevertheless let us not allow those seemingly in positions of power put there by us, throw so much aggression against us.

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    • MarkyMark says:

      Amber Rudd Hate Day.
      Theresa May’s Enough is Enough Day.
      David Cameron’s “I quit!” Day.
      Jeremy Corbyn’s Day for the Many, Not the Few.

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    • Broadcasting-on-Behalf-of-the-Caliphate says:

      Theresa May has just made it a National Memorial Day. To compete with Holocaust Day and St Georges Day.

      Maybe there should be a National Memorial Day for the thousands upon thousands of English white girls raped, impregnated, trafficked, murdered by Muslim rape gangs. Each English town could have its own memorial day.

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  17. Broadcasting-on-Behalf-of-the-Caliphate says:

    Yes the BBC is angry. It asks – is British Tolerance Dead? after reporting on claims that there is one attack every three weeks on a Muslim in Rotherham. The BBC demands the British should be tolerant of hundred of Muslim men gang raping thousands of white girls in more or less every town containing them. I wouldn’t be surprised if the BBC contains hoards of child rapists given their demands for the tolerance of it – at least when it involves gangs of Muslims and young white English girls.
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-43791600

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  18. fakenewswatcher says:

    Well, well. A Stephen Lawrence Day. What about a ‘Windrush day’ on the day following? The day after we could all take off our shirts and flagellate ourselves? In public ,of course.
    Tres bizzare.
    Flagellation: Ten strokes in public. Fifteen for those who feel particularly guilty. But for our cabinet we need a little more. I’d say twenty is plenty.
    Now we have to work out what to do about all the bobbing boobies…
    Back to the history books.

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  19. Foscari says:

    With the Stephen Lawrence Day, does this mean that the BBC
    Londonistan programme wont be observing Mark Duggan
    Day anymore ?

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  20. Swelter says:

    Stephen Lawrence day? why stop there . I’m sure a Lee Rigby day is being discussed. Or Manchester bombing day. Just when one thought this country couldn’t get any madder. I’m off to be fitted for my hair shirt

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    • Oaknash says:

      I think Theresa should just come out with it and have a ” I am ashamed of my own culture and want the rest of us to feel guilty too day”
      We could call it it “Traitors and penitents day”.
      or “maybe I am desperate to suck up to any racial minority for a couple of votes day”
      Or maybe even “Stephen Lawrence – the liberal gift that keeps on giving day”

      Having said that I do feel sorry for his father who does seem to have some dignity about him. I wonder what his thoughts are to the memory of his sons murder being used as a racial, anti white battering ram. By this sort of action it seems to me that Theresa is in effect creating a wedge between communities – not increasing harmony. Though I am sure the BBC will cream themselves silly over this.

      As for our cringeworthy PM. The word “pathetic” does not do justice to the actions of this professional political sado masochist, but she seldom seems more energised than when she is being deferential or “sorry” to some effnik minority or other. If its not telling Coppers off for SUS laws – then its wearing an “ever so umble” headscarf in a mosque or this latest offering, Maybe she has a Lilly Allen hotline at No 10 which she can ring when she needs advice.
      Since the word “pathetic ” is not enough in this case. I took the liberty of “copying and pasting the rest of the synonyms which are similair to pathetic on the online dictionary.
      These are – hapless, miserable, misfortunate, piteous, pitiable, pitiful, poor, wretched, ridiculous, silly

      I rest my case.

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  21. fakenewswatcher says:

    Bobbing boobies? Why, I’m thinking about all those elderly and overweight men, of course. What were you thinking about?

    PS: Still haven’t found the original photograph. You know the one I’m referring to: the one that hasn’t been cropped, to leave only the head showing. Is fact now being edited? Anybody come across it, anywhere? Or is it just my mind playing tricks on me after over twenty years?

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  22. thirstypak says:

    Maybe we could have a BBC day for when they start to report facts instead of opinion……say 29th of Feb or 12th of Never?

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  23. StewGreen says:

    6:15pm News the SLaw memorial service with royalty
    .. Fiona Bruce smiles and says coming up “The Magic of Mo Salah”

    Bit shortchanged ..where was the Enoch bashing item ?

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Stew

      Al beeb always seeking the opportunity to celebrate the evolution of our fine country into Britanistan. Time to grow a beard – including you ladies .

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  24. Despairada says:

    Happy St George’s day to all.

    Have you seen the St George’s day Google Doodle today?

    A cute kids play. The St George is played by a child of colour, while the dragon is not only a white kid but a ginger!

    Ok sorry, not bbc bias, but someone’s bias.

    St George was Greek apparently. Some like to make out he was born in Turkey but the place was Greece at the time.

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    • Ian Rushlow says:

      More traditional picture on Microsoft’s Bing site.
      Mind you, given that St George’s Day is also celebrated in Russia and Syria, Google probably think they are being ‘edgy’ by mentioning it at all.

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  25. Broadcasting-on-Behalf-of-the-Caliphate says:

    When all main political parties agree on the same shite – we no longer have a democracy. There seems to be a neoliberal consensus to islamify and diversify and feminise British society. Of course down the road there will be issues between Islam and the feminists – but most of the feminists are posh and will probably decide to live in the US or in the Caribbean or somewhere else.

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Broadcasting ,

      One day we ll look back on these days as the last days of freedom before it was completely extinguished and the propaganda become total and a monopoly.
      Adverse comments on websites being erased and blocked . People paid to grass on anyone expressing on regulation opinion.

      We ll all be in it together – or else .

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  26. Fedup2 says:

    Londonistan crime update

    14 year old stabbed in the leg in my local park but likely to survive despite the best efforts of the awful local hospital . There is no description in the local newspaper report which normally infers a non white victim and a non white offender .

    I believe they call such activity “dissing” next year it will have happened on Lawrence day”.

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  27. StewGreen says:

    white van in Toronto : 8-10 people have been struck
    Van Plows Into Crowd of Pedestrians
    Toronto police say they are investigating
    driver fled : Police said both the van and the driver are in custody.
    Rental van, “motive unkown”
    https://www.cbc.ca/amp/1.4631564

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  28. fakenewswatcher says:

    Thanks, also Eddy. Starting to ‘get the picture’ now.
    Got the date now Ian, sorry about that.

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  29. Foscari says:

    The BBC Londonistan Programme was in it’s element this
    evening. I don’t think I have seen Riz Lateef so involved since
    she was” eulogizing” over Mark Duggan.
    The programme does not hold back that much
    slagging off the Metropolitan Police on a daily basis. BUT tonight
    the Anarchist, Fifth Columnist , Trotskyist editors knew they
    could get away with anything on Stephen Lawrence day. The
    Met was attacked with vitriol by all asunder.
    Tonight was like watching a Black Panther Movement
    meeting. Stephen Lawrence would not of wanted that.

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    • Al Shubtill says:

      I wonder if the Met Police were withdrawn from London, how many hours would need to elapse before that city would collapse into chaos?

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      • Fedup2 says:

        Al – from my recollection of the most recent riot – the police weren’t that far away from losing it .

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Fos
      Yes the demotivating effect of beating on the boys in blue will only mean dead black kids – an effect which the race industry will never accept .

      The irony of all this – and the black lives matter – movement seems lost on al beeb but I guess it’s a group think job where no one is able to say “ that idea is stupid “.

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      • Oaknash says:

        FE2
        After speaking to various coppers and ex coppers over the years – It appears that the days of the normal copper are long dead to be replaced with battalions of Cresidas “Common Purpose” droids.
        These days the few remnants of the old guard have to be really careful what they say as one of the best was of getting on in the modern “force” is to inform on those who dont hold the PC line.

        Sounds more like North Korea than North London .

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        • Fedup2 says:

          Oak – as I guessed but didn’t want too.
          I’m guessing that the next time there is sustained rioting they’ll more than have their hands full . Worrying . I can hear the “lessons will be learnt “ crap and spare a thought for the dead.

          Al beeb will have a blame field day.

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  30. Eddy Booth says:

    A MasterChef semi-finalist has died after collapsing during the London Marathon, it has been confirmed.
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cumbria-43864835
    _100992084_matt.jpg
    Matt Campbell on the right was running his second marathon in two weeks
    ”Matt Campbell, 29, collapsed at the 22.5 mile mark and died later in hospital.
    He appeared on the BBC’s MasterChef: The Professionals in December 2017, and had been running the race – the hottest on record – for his father who died 18 months ago. ”

    Never heard of him or ever watched the show.
    I would have cautioned against him taking up that activity , those chefs never look healthy, maybe it’s all that rich grub they eat.

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    • imaynotalwaysloveyou says:

      Unlike me some of my lefty friends like to stay healthy and go in for things like half-marathons to raise cash for left wing charities. None of them have died so far, but especially for the full 26 miles you often get someone kicking the bucket (often at a shockingly early age).

      They’re nutters as far as I’m concerned. But I suppose they dropped dead for whatever ghastly ‘peace, luv ‘n understanding’ cause they thought they believed in.

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    • Number 7 says:

      As a retired sportsman, having pushed my body to extreme limits and also having the resultant after effects.
      Give the poor lad some credit.

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  31. Up2snuff says:

    Our ‘Orwellian’ BBC:

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-43873804

    ‘Multiple pedestrians’ – some people will be wondering whether it is more than one set of Siamese twins walking around a Canadian city. Once upon a time ‘Toronto pedestrians hit by van’ would have been an informative heading but is deemed to be no longer adequate in 2018.

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  32. StewGreen says:

    18year old stabbed outside Woolwich Docklands station

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  33. Swelter says:

    I feel that the deification of St Jo of Cox cannot be far away. That will be compulsory.

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  34. taffman says:

    “Up to 10 pedestrians have been struck by a van that witnesses said mounted the kerb in Toronto, say police.
    The vehicle fled the scene after the incident at a busy intersection in the north of the Canadian city, police say.”
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-43873804
    It was the van that did it, It “fled the scene” – lock up all vans !

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    • taffman says:

      All Readers & Maxi
      Update
      Notice how they have changed the wording …………..
      “Nine people have been killed and 16 injured after a man drove a van into pedestrians in Toronto, police said.
      The driver fled the scene of the incident, at a busy junction in the north of the Canadian city, but was arrested several streets away.”

      This time its from “Van” to “Man” and “vehicle” to “driver”

      They read and heed our posts !
      http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-43873804

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  35. Lock13 says:

    I wonder if the BBC could show me one square in the East End of London that had a St. Georges day party today? You know like the one they just showed us in Eastenders . BBC have any of you ever been to the East End in the shadow of the wailing tower in Tower Hamlets ?

       33 likes

    • DownBoy says:

      The locals can all gather around the Joanna in the local pub, Chas n Dave or Madness style and sing all the old favourites like;
      ‘Knees up Mother Khan’
      ‘Baggy Turbans’
      ‘My name is Mishal Caine’.

         25 likes

  36. StewGreen says:

    Panorama : Jonathan Pie just got pushed over by Ukrainian mafia
    ..then a 20s clip from out Labour Governments Chancellor : John MacDonell

    … Labour Government ?

       9 likes

  37. StewGreen says:

    Abolish HoL Petition needs 2K to trigger parliament debate
    1,950 .. 1,940 …1,800

       12 likes

    • Fedup2 says:

      98470 latest count after I signed .

      The idea of an unelected legislature is pretty repulsive – oh yeah – tradition .

         10 likes

  38. Deborah says:

    I thought I would see what the viewing figures for the recent Stephen Lawrence programmes on the BBC. BARB gives this message on 23rd April:

    Due to a technical issue with the delivery of programme logs for BBC channels, we do not have weekly programme data for these channels from 12 March 2018. We will make these data available as soon as possible.

    How long do you think we will have to wait before we get the data that the BBC slips out. I am sure there will be a ‘minor’ correction to adjust the numbers upwards. Why would we believe the BBC?

       18 likes

    • Fedup2 says:

      Deb
      I’m glad they can’t include me in their figures but I suppose they’ll run it again and again each year .

         4 likes

      • Fedup2 says:

        9 dead in Toronto using a van . Evening standard says the driver started fighting with people after he’d carried out his killings .

        I won’t hop skip or jump to conclusions but maybe the truth will out .

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    • StewGreen says:

      @Deb weekly data is visible eg figs for top 30 April 9 – April 15
      So April 16- April 23 should be available in a couple of days
      http://www.barb.co.uk/viewing-data/weekly-top-30/

      Viewing figs seem rubbish ..just 3.5 to 6 million, (last month Call the Midwife got 9m)
      Notable lib-Agenda shows – Countryfile 6m, Have I got News 5.5m, News 11 positions in the top 30 , Also charted : Holby/Casualty/Graham-Norton

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  39. StewGreen says:

    More on : BBC The Big British Asian Summer season of programming (post above 4:34 pm)

    3m British Asians are now the biggest minority population in Britain.
    .. not just part of the fabric of contemporary Britain – they’ve helped create it.”
    “this unique fusion of cultures hasn’t happened without tensions.

    The culture isn’t fused .. And I saw no tension in my childhood
    I can’t see any big difference to most peoples lives, only the people who like Asian food
    – And BBC please Stop breaking the trades descriptions act by using the word “Asian” like you do
    ..You mean “Indian-Subcontinent immigrant culture”

    BBC2special progs
    – cookery series Taste of Home
    – series; Passengers (3×60′) social history of the journey
    – Inside The Factory; a spotlight on curry
    – Gardeners’ World, celebrate South Asian influences on British Gardens
    – 2 parts Made In Asia: story of 4 adopted women, now looking for their mums

    BBC1
    – Leicester Sings; documentary musical for BBC One telling the story of a family, exiled from Uganda
    – Anita Rani exploring British Indians in Bollywood. 2 parts

    BBC4
    – last Maharajah of the Punjab, .. wrenched from his mother’s arms by the British Empire.
    – stories of British Asian Men
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/mediacentre/latestnews/2018/big-british-asian-summer

       6 likes

    • Fedup2 says:

      Stew
      A dishonour killing special
      Do it your self fgm
      Health inspectors guide to curry houses
      The caste system
      3rd world peasants in a 1st world country
      Aborting female babies
      How to abduct and take white children

      An excellent selection of programmes – wonder who they’ll send to Pakistan Indian – meeesshhhalll?

         8 likes

    • JimS says:

      3m British Asians are now the biggest minority population in Britain.
      .. not just part of the fabric of contemporary Britain – they’ve helped create it.

      No the biggest ‘minority’ community in Britain are the Not BAMEs, the ones that have no ‘community leaders’ (ever noticed that?) that have no culture, the ones whose forefathers didn’t just create it, (without help), but fought amongst themselves to define the principles that the civilised world adopted. The ones that see that civilisation being destroyed by corrupt knife-wielding barbarians and all, not for a ‘mess of pottage’, but a spoonful of curry covering up God knows what.

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  40. Fedup2 says:

    House of Lords abolition petition now at 99386
    Target 100000 but needs to be higher .

    Al beeb won’t say anything about it as their senior hierarchy want a place there one day – similarly to and politician who doesn’t want to have anything to do with the punters anymore .

       8 likes

    • Dystopian says:

      Now 99444

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      • Number 7 says:

        Already signed – Think of the savings to us poor people who are struggling to exist while these clowns are ‘earning’ some £300/day merely for turning up ( before going down the pub, Soho or whatever their strange predilictions dictate ).
        The Old Lords did, at least, have some respect for their peers (us), this lot are a shower of sh*te traitors just looking after their own EU incomes/pensions.
        If anybody needs to be deported?
        Start with our (less than) ‘Honourables’.

           14 likes

    • fakenewswatcher says:

      Fedup- Spot on. The target is in the bag.

      Tried to explain in my little discussion with Taffman why I think the ‘Lords’ are not the only obstacle;
      and that they scorn our petitions cos they think the deplorables out here are too uneducated to show them the way.
      Some thinking, independent from political parties, may not be a bad thing?
      The petition is the QUANTITY. Do they feel we have no QUALITY out here? The contributions to this column suggest otherwise.
      The BBC and their MSM buddies certainly don’t have more.
      As for the politicians, look around at what they’re up to and weep. How on earth have we allowed it to come to this?

         5 likes

      • Fedup2 says:

        The rationale for the existence of the peers used to be

        Not the party affiliation that exists in the commons

        Peers have life experience which enables them to correct draft legislation

        Peers have specialist expertise which they can use to shape legislation .

        Compare that with the creatures who are actually in there – how many is it now? 800 plus ?

        You can give your own examples of unelected peers who challenge the brexit referendum . But it’s not just that . It’s the principle – The party leaders using it as patronage for his friends . No selection – no independent review – just patronage – Adonis , shami, Patton , Mandi , baroness Doreen of Lawrence ( Who can Do No Wrong ) and countless nobodys who no one has ever heard of . It’s just corrupt .

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        • fakenewswatcher says:

          We are agreed. 800+ is absurd. Says all there is to be said about that place. The whole edifice reeks of corruption. Add those of the lower house, and we can take over the government of China and India. (Strictly numerically-theoretically speaking!) The lower house is very happy with that. ‘Keep giving the peasants the run-around with Brexit, and they won’t be able to think of anything else’. So all that wonderful ‘expertise’ has solved zilch?
          Cut by half, at least. (Commons by a third?)
          Now we need a clear picture of the alternative upper house. Or not?

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Stew ,
      I had a quick look at your link but I feared it might offend my Roman Catholic sensitivities . I know al beeb equates RC with paedophilia and nothing else but it has been around a bit longer than al beeb and will be there long after sky buys albeeb

      I think the church is trying to make nice with sodomites and lettuce lickers but they might have s bit of explaining to do with the boss.

         4 likes

    • StewGreen says:

      and https://www.therebel.media/media_insiders_tell_katie_hopkins_they_have_had_enough_of_half_truths_and_lies

      (Actually Fedup that BBC Scotland piece is Ok, as it’s OK t air a poet who doesn’t like Catholicism
      but it’s the hypocrisy that the BBC wouldn’ allow similar free speech to some one criticising Islam)
      … HoL petition zoomed past 100K , gov has 5 days to respond

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  41. Tabs says:

    The BBC haven’t mentioned the name of the Toronto van driver who killed 9. In fact the BBC state “No description was given of the driver.”

    Meanwhile in the real journalism world, CBS have named him as Alek Minassian (yes it’s a Muslim yet again).

       18 likes

    • Number 7 says:

      Is anyone surprised?

         9 likes

    • Roland Deschain says:

      Have they pronounced him mentally ill yet?

         9 likes

    • taffman says:

      Well spotted Tabs.
      And I thought it was a “Van” .

         3 likes

    • Ian Rushlow says:

      The surname Minassian is commonly associated with Armenia, which is a predominately Christian country. So, it is necessary to withold judgement at this stage, although be prepared not to be surprised. However, at the very minimum the perp should be done for ‘Cultural appropriation’.

         6 likes

  42. scribblingscribe says:

    I was signature 100,061.

    Please let everyone one know about this attempt to bring back democracy.

    Thanks to all above for alerting me to this. Save me rolling the barrels of explosive beneath the house of lords.

    https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/209433

       14 likes

    • Number 7 says:

      We may need pitchforks to pursuade the ‘lower house’ to accept the referrendum vote.
      I’ve been sharpening mine – and the rest of the collection – just in case they need to understand to comprehend the word ‘majority’.

         15 likes

    • Fedup2 says:

      Scrib
      Congratulations – it’s probably meaningless but it’s the least that can be done eh?

         5 likes

    • G says:

      @ 0858 today: 101,700 and still rising but slightly slower now. I hope that’s due to the early morning. I’ll return later today and watch for 5 mins or so to get an idea of the rate the number is increasing.

         3 likes

  43. Roland Deschain says:

    It is somewhat reassuring to see that the idea of Stephen Lawrence Day has not gone down well with many on Twitter.

       9 likes

    • taffman says:

      Roland Deschain
      The indigenous population of this country called Great Britain have been forgotten by Liberal, Politically Correct, Politicians, who are out of touch with their people.

         22 likes

      • Ian Rushlow says:

        There was a debate in parliament some years ago (sorry, don’t have my Hansard records to hand) in which our esteemed MPs voted that the UK didn’t have any indigenous people, just waves of unending immigration throughout the ages: Romans, Angles, Saxons, Vikings, Normans, Hugeunots, West Indians, Bangladeshis, Somalians…
        But, in fairness, the politicans are in touch with their people. You know the sort: American bankers, Russian oligarchs, Saudi paymasters, ‘Hungarian’ billionaires…

           6 likes

    • Scroblene says:

      Why call it a ‘Day’? Isn’t it during the night when all these murderous yobs get out their knives and go round terrorising normal people?

      How about a ‘Night’, when it’s ‘dark’ – or is that waaaaaycist?

      The whole idea is just ridiculous, but then so was Cameron’s waste of time as ‘PM’, and the other previous lot with that grinning white smarmy git.

      As a good friend once told me, there are two people in the world I hate, and he’s both of them!

         5 likes

      • MarkyMark says:

        May Day! May Day! May Day! – the day everyone had enough is enough of Theresa May … May Day!

           3 likes

    • MartinW says:

      A National Day must have the approval and support of the population but, as for as I know, there has been no survey to determine the national opinion. The preposterous decision to have a National Day for Stephen Lawrence seems to have been decided in secret by Theresa May and a small pressure group, and imposed on the nation. My view on this is clear, and I venture the suggest that, if polled, the nation would vote against this move. I shall make 22 April Lee Rigby Day.

         9 likes

  44. BRISSLES says:

    Are Harry & Megan filling the gap left by Ant & Dec ? they seem to be appearing everywhere and attending the opening of every proverbial envelope. Never off the screens, and now just watched yet another performance at the Stephen Lawrence church do. They must be in desperate need of a holiday with all this hard work of public speaking, hi fiving, pious expressions when necessary, and emoting with concern (this is where the acting lessons pay off).

       19 likes

    • Number 7 says:

      Sorry Bris.
      It’s a royal baby.
      At least it means the MSM have to stop the ‘Corbyn is Magnificent’ trope.

         6 likes

    • Ian Rushlow says:

      It would be good if they could stand in alphabetical order, just like Ant & Dec always do, so you can tell which one is which. Thinking about it, that should apply to all members of the ‘royal’ family.

         4 likes

  45. BRISSLES says:

    A royal baby I can cope with, but H & M are rapidly becoming the Posh and Becks of the Royal family !

       14 likes

    • Scroblene says:

      Quite agree, Brissles.

      I’ve developed a method of avoiding anything to do with them.
      I ignore it all!

      Blood pressure normal, tinctures all round, and a lovely way to enjoy life!

      Of course, I do the same with Corbynals, Posh and Biscuits, Thronebury, Adornis, Bliar, Remoaners, murdering night-time knife-stabbers, police in their offices all safe, Izzardists, Transits, John Minor, any bbbcist, and anyone who disagrees with me!

         13 likes

  46. Loobyloo says:

    Not bias, but if you need a laugh, read the comments. It’s the only humor like this you’ll see on the beeb!
    https://mobile.twitter.com/BBCNews/status/988480337264115712

       3 likes

    • Scroblene says:

      I’ve got a tea mug with a pub sign on it saying ‘The Crowing Cock’.

      I’ve always wondered why Senora O’Blene bought it for me, but I think I know now…

         4 likes

  47. Beeb Brother says:

    Darkly comic on Five Live as they ponder what could possibly have motivated the driver in Toronto. I assume they have taken inspiration from that font of political strategy Harry Potter where noboby mentions the name ‘Voldemort.’ It does not reassure us but instead creates the impression that things are spiralling out of control as nobody believes this was just a case of bad driving.

       14 likes

  48. AsISeeIt says:

    One suspects that the lanky lightweight would-be matinée idol Dan Walker has not yet been completely inculcated with the lefty mindset. Of course his perch on the feminin-dominated BBC Breakfast sofa is precarious – his co-presenter, the fully-paid-up BBC sistazs union chapel member Louise Minchin, will occasionally be moved to slap him down whenever he shows a little too much…. let’s call it ‘maleness’.

    Perhaps there’s some hope for the young man. Some spark of independent thought remains.

    And our Dan hints at the level to which BBC presenters are battered into subservience to a uniformity of politically correct right-on outlook by a noisy vociferous lefty minority of viewers.

    This morning he muses “You know these British citizens who are not particularly happy about the birth of the Royal baby, well they should see this American media coverage, with the National Anthem and all”.

       6 likes

    • thirstypak says:

      5 minute warning……Dan ‘never on a Sunday’ has just proclaimed Lammy is coming on at 8:30……brace yourselves!!!

         1 likes

  49. AsISeeIt says:

    I know I’m being a little obtuse – but what exactly do the BBC mean by the term ‘Female Statue’ ?

       5 likes

    • Scroblene says:

      It comes from Captain Mainwaring answering the phone in the bank and muttering: –

      “Elizabeth, statue”?…

      I think my coat is called for PDQ…

         8 likes

    • Ian Rushlow says:

      Allow me to explain. All previous statues in this country have been of men only. Excluding Queen Victoria. And Boudica. Plus Elizabeth 1. And Florence Nightingale. Not forgetting the inn keeper, Mary Seacole. And various others. And the reason for this is the prevailing, er, white male patriarchy. So because this is the very first statue of a woman then it is necessary to specify that it is a female statue, otherwise members (no pun intended) of the public would get confused. Is that clear? (c) a BBC Junior Editor 2018

         15 likes

      • Fedup2 says:

        Toady watch

        More popcorn -Martha interviewing some bloke from Cambridge analytic . She was ready to give him the traditional al beeb beating but he just wasn’t having it .

        It had echos of the great Cathy Newman prof Peterson encounter . They did the “ running out of time “ thing so that they could put on some meaningless crap .

        The data issue is of no interest . If you put anything on the web – including this – it goes in a file somewhere and is used for something

        . If someone could explain the benefit of being on the mushbook I’d be grateful .

           7 likes

        • Fedup2 says:

          Toady watch 2

          Toady is reporting on traffic chaos in Toronto – serious questions are being asked about the enforcement of traffic law in the city as apparently someone drove on the pavement for a mile before stopping . It’s feared he did not have insurance .
          Al beeb is marginalising such mass murder to an ordinary event which will be completely forgotten by the baby is named.

             6 likes

        • MarkyMark says:

          Burglars know when you have left the house?

             2 likes

        • MartinW says:

          And when that admirable spokesman for Cambridge Analytica said that [contrary to the media’s narrative] they did not work with the Trump Campaign, Martha Carney immediately shut down the interview. It would have much too dangerous for the BBC to risk further disclosure of the truth.

             9 likes