MID WEEK OPEN THREAD…….AND AN INVITATION!

Hi everyone! Reports of my demise have been somewhat exaggerated BUT I have been very busy launching Altnewsmedia.net along with a few million other things. I want to get Biased BBC back on track but I have a request. Is there any volunteers who would agree to help us keep the open threads ready as well as perhaps writing on the BBC’s egregious bias? I need your assistance – please message me via the site! And in the meantime, highlight the endless dready offensive bias!!!

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262 Responses to MID WEEK OPEN THREAD…….AND AN INVITATION!

  1. scribblingscribe says:

    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/world/brussels-threatens-to-cut-off-cash-for-eastern-autocrats-52nf5p7h0

    “Brussels threatens to cut off cash for eastern autocrats”

    Oddly there is no sign of this move on the BBC website at the moment.

    Obviously, the Times headline should read, “Brussel’s autocrats threaten to cut off cash to democratically elected governments.”

    I can’t think of a better time to bid farewell to this overweening, unelected, fatuous despots.

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  2. Tabs says:

    Hitler Youth?

    Exeter University: ‘Why I revealed my friends’ racist WhatsApp messages’

    Typical BBC these days. If someone else doesn’t agree with your narrow views then try and get them sacked/expelled/arrested etc.

    In 3 years time the BBC will be doing another article with Arsalan Motavali about his loneliness and depression.

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  3. Roland Deschain says:

    At the risk of falling foul of Rulez:

    That’s what passes for news at the Beeb these days.

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  4. NISA says:

    Top world news according to the BBC news website is Trump having reimbursed his lawyer’s costs in paying off Stormy’s extortion. If this is newsworthy because of a possible campaign finance infringement, what would be the penalty? Surely more a slap & fine than disqualification from office??
    The news of the possible release of American citizens from North Korean detention requires a more detailed search of the BBC’s site.

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    • Roland Deschain says:

      Careful. You’re following the MSM agenda. Has any evidence been put forward that it was campaign finance, or do they just wish it were so?

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  5. NISA says:

    The BBC, an organisation with a news budget that dwarfs the rest of the UK’s news media, provides only the common purpose angle in respect of the sacked Whitby lifeboatmen . As a consequence the BBC’s audience may be left with the impression that the “inappropriate material of a sexual nature” was something obscene rather than a mug with the picture of a naked, but non-revealing, woman.
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-humber-43980257

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  6. thirdoption says:

    What a surprise, violence has erupted at the funeral march for the burglar who was killed when he attacked a defenceless 78 yr old man.

    https://news.sky.com/story/henry-vincent-funeral-heavy-police-presence-amid-fears-of-confrontation-11356864

    Journalists were advised by police to leave the area to avoid violence.

    Absolutely pathetic. If it’s a harmless celebrity like Cliff Richard the police telephone the press so that they can attend but when it’s a bunch of violent thugs they fail to take action and instruct the press to leave.

    Whatever happened to the rule of law?

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Third
      Perhaps someone will dig the shit up and chuck him in the landfill . Q. Can you be guilty of a hate crime against someone who is thankfully dead ? No doubt there is a police squad specialising in pursuing such people .

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  7. ChrisMorrison says:

    The anti-science reporting of climate science continues day after day at the BBC. Desperate to convince us that humans are changing the weather, the reporting regularly descends to a level that would shame a junior school science lesson.

    So we have David Attenborough using the opening of Kew Garden’s newly refurbished Victorian glasshouse as an excuse to talk about deserts increasing around the globe. Some deserts are on the increase, some diminishing, it was always thus – we know from the geological record. Absent from his biased reporting is any mention that the globe has been greening up nicely over the last few decades with small mostly natural rises in global temperatures. Some scientists – real ones – suggest a 10% rise in plant life due to small increases in C02 that have had a beneficial effect in reducing world famine.

    Not in the script David that all those nice activists gave you to read out loud.

    This afternoon’s “Inside Science” was full of the usual “ifs” that characterise science on the BBC these days. There was a piece on supposed declines of seabird populations on the Yorkshire coast “if” prey species moved due to higher sea water temperatures (unspecified, needless to say – have temperatures actually risen – has prey declined?)

    Then we had a piece on the giant Thwaites glacier in west Antarctica that is supposedly in rapid retreat and “if” climate change occurs “might” lead to higher, much higher, sea levels. One interviewee rather let the cat out of the bag when she noted that scientists were interested in the upper beaches on the glacier formed when sea levels were much higher. Beaches formed, in other words, long before humans started using oil and gas and probably long before humans were even around. It need hardly be added that such inconvenient facts are largely ignored by activist presenters who want the audience to believe that sea levels rise for only one reason. So scare after scare is piled on for a political purpose with little or no basis in science – in the BBC’s case there is a willful disregard of any skeptical science, an editorial policy that has been in place for 12 years.

    In fact it seems to be getting worse. In 2013 science correspondent Jonathan Amos reported on the work of Bedmap2, a co-operative science project involving 60 scientists from 14 countries. It was found that Antarctica had almost 5% more ice than previously thought. Amos wrote: “ …. the extra ice is shown to lie mostly below the current water line and so if melted it would not add significantly to the volume already displaced”. This reporting is similar to the view of many scientists who dispute that sea levels will rise that much if glacier ice melts. Amos might also have noted the view that removing a colossal weight from the land underneath would almost certainly cause some compressed land mass to rise. And he could have also noted that it has been snowing buckets in Antarctica for over 100 years.

    Reporting fair and balanced stuff like that these days at the BBC would most likely get you fired. Today Mr Amos notes that most of the Thwaites glacier is under water but he suggests that the retreat is “accounting for around 4% of global sea level rise”.

    If only.

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Not bias al beeb but interesting all the same . A labour offshoot party in my londonistan borough campaigning in support of comrade Corbyn but against the labour council – which has always been in power.
      I sat down and had a listen – fortunately most of the people passing bye looked as though they no speekee dee inglish ( except in relation to benefits) . So no harm done .

      Any way – proper communist stuff. I asked whether they were worried about splitting the labour vote but they didn’t seem to understand the concept .

      There was a whiff of sulphur about them and the certainty of their cause – a certain national socialism .

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    • johnnythefish says:

      If they think all their ‘coulds’ and ‘mights’ and ‘maybes’ will be their get out of jail free card when this whole multi-trillion dollar fraud is finally exposed, they can think again.

      Science by definition is ‘sceptical’. Without scepticism scientific discipline and the scientific method would collapse. The narrative of ‘settled science’ and labelling of sceptics as ‘deniers’ is arguably the most corrosive act committed by the BBC against our advanced western democracy.

      Harrabin, Attenborough and the rest of the BBC eco-fascists should be brought to account for perpetuating a lie that has the direst economic and social consequences for our country.

      The BBC has the resources and influence to open a proper scientific debate on this most critical area of science and government policy, then who knows what might follow – hopefully a few lights might go on in politicians’ heads.

      Fat chance. Our ‘carbon’ targets are leading us over a cliff. When our last coal-fired power station closes down, buy yourself a shotgun and batten down the hatches.

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  8. Al Shubtill says:

    Why is al Beebus currently so concerned with “sex addiction”?

    It was excruciating enough listening to Jezza Vine, talk about this rather sordid and abnormal subject on his show yesterday at midday, without then being subjected to another er…dose of it on the local news; up here Look North at 6.30 that evening.

    I’m no prude by any means but I think it was quite inappropriate to broadcast discussions of such a topic at those times, when there will be young children around. Some of the folk who rang into the Whine Show with this “condition” clearly had underlying issues to put it mildly.

    Maybe al Beebus are thinking if such behaviour can be categorised as an addiction or illness, then it can be used as a defence for the behaviour of folk such as the pedophiles and rapists that the organisation seems to attract?

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    • chrisH says:

      If you drew a Venn diagram of those target audiences so cherished by the BBC-lefties, paedos, pervies, liberals, rapists and Norwegian vans-you`d find that most are up to no-good , practicing their pocket billiards to the whining of Jez.
      What is it about that name? Was St Jerome the last decent one?
      Radio 2 is just a house of tissues when Vinestein is about his business.

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      • Rich says:

        Chris,

        You’re not the only one to have noticed the disproportionate level of twattery seemingly synonymous with the beloved-by-the-beeb Jeremy handle.

        Messers Vine, Clarkson, Paxman, Bowen and Hardy are ex or present beeboid twats of the highest order with Kyle surely on the wrong channel.

        Throw in Comrade Corbyn, Heywood of the HCS and Ashdown of the HoL and point proven.

        Ashdown? Yep. Jeremy John Durham ‘Paddy’ Ashdown. Nuff said.

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        • chrisH says:

          Just heard the BBC refer to the upcoming “In Our Time” as the story of “El Andalus” in its “defending itself from western Christianity”. Unbelievable!
          As for Jeremies-noted yesterdays Media Show repeatedly sneering about Clarkson, obviously he`s still a hate figure in Amol Rajahs world. He asked different “contributors” whether they`d be watching the Price Is Right on ITV at the weekend-unsurprisingly these cultured types would not be stooping so low.
          Pretty disgusting really , sliming ceaselessly under some “pretext” of Amols.
          Apparently it`s a derivative throwback, an act of desperation to bring back this format-I`m assuming the Generation Game was quite the triumph there at the BBC.
          Biased, sneery, slimy lib lefties.
          Yes-just heard the edit…the slavery bit of awkwardness was cut out as I predicted!
          Oh-and apparently it may not have been jihadist conquest-who knows, it seems to have been alliances.
          Hope IS realise that THAT is what we call their sending boys back to the Sultan, slavery for the Spanish people and total domination of western people by Islamic doctrine, Alliances.
          The three lecturers are bought, wonder who`s funding their “Maghreb Cultural Centres and SOAS Lovely Muslims Societies . Did Bin Laden set up a Trustafarian Fund for these figgy puddings?

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      • StewGreen says:

        One Show showed its usual fingerprint of having a SJW hippy producer by the way it pushed pet issues at us
        #1 ‘We sent middle-class white man and Asian woman up to Yorkshire to impose artisan snacks on the locals
        Ha ha look at them squirm as we force chilli on them
        #2 Oh look we have a black man, he used to be very very bad , but now he is very very good and the police caught him red handed in his drug gang operations and jailed him for 6 years ‘
        Twitter noticed he talked about himself and never mentioned the victims of his crimes
        #3 ‘Oh look someone guides growing trees into the shape of chairs which they sell’
        (em they’ve been on two other shows before and cost £5,000 chair
        call that sustainable ?)
        #4 ‘Oh look you working class people buy nasty processed food, we found a man who delivery organic meal ingredients to your house, it’s only £10 for 2 person meal, that you prepare and cook yourself’
        Wanna bet the corp is owned by friend of the producer.

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    • MartinW says:

      Even ‘Thought for the Day’ was on sexual addiction. Or, at any rate, when I the prelate mention those words in his first sentence, I hit the off button, so don’t know if the whole thing was about that. Interesting that the BBC seems to have themed it this week.

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  9. chrisH says:

    A joy to read this site again, glad to see we`re all fully aware of what the BBC are doing 24/7
    1.Stew-the BBC “clearly label ” who they don`t like (centre far fascist rightards etc)…but raving house-trained slobbering commies like the IPPR or the Jeza/Rezo Final) Solution Foundation will of course be charitable, progressive or left-inspired. If at all.

    2.Fedup2 etal was it? I listened to Braggs Muslin love-in this morning, and got lots out of it. Have a listen again at 9.30 and watch for the edits.
    1. Bragg had to include “slavery” among the other golden gifts of the Berber Muslimists-the poppet from Newcastle Polyuni seemed awful keen to talk of salt, spices and gold…but it took Melvyn to have her admit to “slaves” as being their biggest export!
    Bet the SOAS and Newkyuni funders of Riyadh will be having words. And wards next time.
    2. Apparently the Muslims were “invited into Spain”-maybe to get the top off the pepperoni jar. There was me thinking that Romans and Christians had been there first, but our Muzziplogists seemed unaware.
    3. The digital strapline as the show was going on was ” The Almoravids-Great Empires of the “Islamic West” discussed.
    Note that -“GREAT Empires and “THE ISLAMIC WEST”…?
    The djinn is in the details-and we had loads of that this morning.
    Will listen again to see what they miss out-wonder if the “slavery thing” will make it through.
    Muslim cuckbook in audio, but you`d not know unless you check what the BBC and the academic umma of KSA are getting away with. And not the fairies-they kill those.

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  10. MartinW says:

    I turned to ‘Atlas Shrugged’ for the first time for several months, and was most interested to read the remarkable story of Tony Iwobi, a Christian of Nigerian origin, and now a minister in the Italian Northern League https://gellerreport.com/2018/05/iwobi-defend-country.html/ He has a great deal to say about muslim jihad against Christians from the Biafra war up until the present day, and on the folly of allowing muslims to swamp Europe. A lot of the information was new to me, and it is sad reflection on the once-honest BBC that they would never countenance airing such news and comment on any of their programmes.

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  11. Broadcasting-on-Behalf-of-the-Caliphate says:

    In my local election all candidates were British Pakistani Muslim apart from the Green Party Candidate. And all parties were left of centre (some far left) apart from the Conservative Candidate. In the end I decided to vote for a British Pakistani Muslim Conservative. I decided against spoiling my ballot, but there wasn’t much choice. There definitely seems to be a concerted effort to get Islam (no matter what party) into power.

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  12. wronged says:

    I heard on the radio the following which the BBC and Teezer the Remainer are failing to tell us.

    This country needs to know what is going on in Europe.

    The people in Greece are 97% against the EU.
    The population of Greece are currently living on 500 euro voucher and a 300 euro voucher for shopping each month
    Germany: According to recent polls, 48% are currently anti EU.79% are anti the immigration policy of the EU.
    Even Macron has refused to allow the people of France a referendum because he believes they would vote to come out.

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  13. DamonJ says:

    Thanks David Vance for keeping this blog alive. Biased BBC absolutely terrifies the BBC. Hope Up2snuff and Fedup2 take over from Alan and that Alan isn’t unwell. It would be great if other posters, like G and GWF, also took up the white man’s burden and joined you in hosting this blog. Long live Biased BBC!

       22 likes

    • Fedup2 says:

      Damon – I’m being careful about not doing a power grab and will try to coordinate with “Up” to try to keep things consistent . It’s vital that this site keeps going and growing .

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    • oldcrone says:

      I nominate Stew Green.

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  14. ChrisMorrison says:

    DamonJ – what is the “white man’s burden”? How can one reasonably criticise Jane Garvey for referring to a “white” theatrical audience as a “problem”. Or note that the BBC publishes racist advertising by asking for applications from a “non-white minority background”.

    Little more care in language, please.

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    • wronged says:

      I totally agree with ChrisMorrison, being racist on this site does us no favours.

      Diane Abbott,Afua Hirsch and David Lammy are racists. People on this site have more intelligent minds and are not racists.

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      • Up2snuff says:

        Me, too. Have had my own robust debate [ ‘some people’ might say argument 🙂 ] on here with some folk who tend toward a white supremicist view.

        It is fine to be proud of past achievements and recognise where hegemony lies in the real world in the past and right now.

        It is not fine to be racist or to exploit race or, even – in my view – to keep emphasising racial differences or backgrounds. It is not good to have positive discrimination or to be in favour of that because it is just MORE discrimination.

        As I think they are guilty of some of the above, I hold the BBC guilty on at least two counts there, possibly three. It would be good if we can avoid being that, doing that, on here.

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    • Yasser Dasmibehbi says:

      “white man’s burden” Surely that’s Kipling. Do we ban him now?
      And what is this problem with white audiences at theatre? How is that a problem? I have often performed to all white audiences. Not racist at all, it’s a fact. If we had to racially select an audience before we allowed them in to make sure the quotas are right we wouldn’t get enough in the way of box office takings. If we told the punters ‘make sure you bring at least one ethnic or else you won’t be allowed in you disgusting white supremacists”? Yeah I wonder how that would work.
      No! Being a half ethnic myself I might be kidnapped by some liberals and forced to sit through a David Hare play! Oh god no! Noooo!
      My suggestion is that we let anybody who wants to come to theatre. We need audiences. I don’t care if they are bloody Martians. But let’s face it theatre is a British thing and has been for centuries. If some groups don’t like it and don’t want to come and watch us why should we beat ourselves up over it.
      That’s what the self flagellating BBC do so it would be cultural appropriation. Which is racist.

      A bit of a silly rant but the point I am making is let’s not get into the racist calling on this site. It just gets stupid. The Left have ruined the word.

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      • Up2snuff says:

        Yes, Yasser, and also it became a joke expression, used a bit in the Goon Show and other comedy scripts, IIRC, usually poking fun back at officious or imperialistic Brits or the Whitehall ‘system’. I suspect that DamonJ had no malicious intent – and certainly hope he didn’t – in using it in his post.

        Unfortunately, jokes – even when obvious – can nowadays provoke all sorts of responses and snowball way beyond deserved attention. I cite as evidence for that the row that occupied space on the BBC w-s for several days over a jokey Tweet from a Conservative candidate or councillor or something in, I think, the north-west of England.

        I noticed that Goon Show and I’m Sorry I’ll Read That Again repeats sometimes come with a ‘health warning’ these days. Some of the things Bill Oddie used to come out with as ‘running gags’ (standard repeat jokes) on ISIRTA would probably result in the BBC getting closed down today.

        As others have observed, we have to be as absolutely faultless on here as possible. The BBC can get it wrong. And do. They get away with it. But this site will attract a lot of hostility, probably engineered, if we slip up.

        Someone on here wrote an excellent post about a ‘one-dimensional society’.

        We appear to be, sadly, well on our way there in the UK now.

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  15. BRISSLES says:

    Can we just have ONE thread for the weekend please ? I can’t cope with going back and forth on a dual thread.

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    • Up2snuff says:

      Brissles, it has only had twelve posts in something over 24hrs. Those posts may have been replies in ongoing conversations.

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  16. wronged says:

    Question Time tonight
    Well done Camilla Tominey for highlighting the fact that she was the only Brexiteer to the four Remainers on the panel. Stating also that others have noticed the anti Brexit bias on the programme. Dimbleby clearly annoyed. He really is a fascist idiot.

    This means that she probably will not be invited back on the programme. It is quite possible not any programme on the BBC. The fact she knows this makes her act a very brave one. I seem to remember Julie Hartley Brewer making the same point on the programme. I haven’t seen her since on the programme.

    David Liddington was a completely pathetic character and did not support Camilla at any stage. He should have done, the opportunity about the BBC bias was there. He left Camilla out to dry. Quite appalling. I say sack the incompetent traitorous wimp.

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Wronged – can’t watch QT – anger management

      Toady Watch

      Normally Local Government elections are treated as opportunities to give the governing party a kicking . Well on the results this hasn’t happened – which should perk up Tories .

      But you would not see this narrative on al beeb Toady. They describe the out come as “mixed” whilst I’d see it at the limit of Comrade Corbyn even though the government has been busily shooting itself in its feet recently.

      At least toady won’t have a line of labour types crowing about preparing for government – bless .

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      • Banania says:

        As well as QT I also listened to Any Questions and noticed something new (it is a long time since I last listened to it). Instead of just clapping (which they do far too often, interrupting the discussion) the audience shriek like young girls. This happened throughout the programme. What is next, vuvuzelas given out at the door? I found it intolerable. Has anybody complained, I wonder? It would be easy to ask the audience not to do it.

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    • Al Shubtill says:

      Liddington is just a vacuous blatherer, I remember watching him on QT a while back and being singularly unimpressed; this was before he got a far more senior cabinet position. Ma May certainly knows how to pick ’em.

      I’m very selective on which QT I choose to watch, if there’s no one likely to stir things up: I don’t bother with it.

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  17. Foscari says:

    I have got too excited over the Barnet election result!! My comments
    about it are on the TRUMP segment !!

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    • Up2snuff says:

      Your mea culpa should just be enough to stop Pounce pouncing on you!

      [ Sorry, Pounce, just couldn’t resist. 😉 ]

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  18. Englands Dreaming says:

    The Beeb website has a slightly strange headline for its report on the council elections

    Local election results 2018: Mixed picture for Labour and Tories
    http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-43997872
    The article is thankfully factual, I guess because its not really possible to spin it as a good day for Labour, clearly most people dont want the Communist Party.

    The analysis is “it looks as if Labour has moved on slightly since the general election”, thanks Laura.

    The Tory’s have been lamentable under May, but Labour makes zero headway – clearly they have no chance today of being voted in and if the Tories got a proper leader they could slaughter them.

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  19. Broadcasting-on-Behalf-of-the-Caliphate says:

    With regard to Brissles comment above, this site used to pin the current open thread at the top of the page and other articles below it. So whoever is responsible for the technical side of this website – or whoever might be taking over from Alan – might want to look into that. Many thanks.

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Broadcasting – I’ve beeb given access to the threads so any advice is welcome . I think Up2 has access too .

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  20. AsISeeIt says:

    “It’s cheap, I think that helps”

    A female footballer guesting on BBC tv this morning perhaps goes further than she may have intended to explain in large part the BBC’s ardent enthusiasm for the women’s game.

    Have you ever watched a shopping channel? It’s lame stuff. Desperate presenters engage in fakey conversation with oneanother in praise of the product – competing as to how much they love that product. A product you may think you could happily live without – and thereby attempting to persuade the viewer that they simply must buy. Well, at least we all know the game the shopping channels are playing.

    This morning our BBC presenters are busting a gut in promotion of the wimmin’s FA cup between Chelsea and Aresenal ladies televised later by the BBC. Well, at least Arsenal may win one piece silverwear this season.

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    • StewGreen says:

      \\ on @BBCWomansHour – @SarahMulkerrins talking about this year’s BBC Women’s Footballer of the Year Award and tomorrow’s FA Women’s Cup Final at Wembley //
      bout minute 3
      “Now to the BBC Women’s Footballer of the year Award”
      Presenter “but isn’t there ALREADY a FIFA Womens Player of the year award, equivalent of the Palm D’Or ?”
      .. “yeh, but, yeh ..increase awareness”

      FIFA have run its award since 2001, BBC started theirs in 2015
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FIFA_World_Player_of_the_Year

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      • johnnythefish says:

        ‘Increase awareness’. Any footie fan worth their salt will be well aware of the women’s game.

        It therefore lives or dies on its own merits, regardless of the statist coercion from the BBC.

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  21. Guest Who says:

    Dominos are bringing out a deep pan sexual. Apparently.

    Comments could….

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  22. Dover Sentry says:

    ……be going better.

    🙂

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  23. Up2snuff says:

    Switched on the TOADY Prog late this morning. 🙂

    Whoo hoo! Nick Robinson has just had (at 8.52/53 on R4) a history lesson from a very communicative UKIP spokesman. I’m loving it. Feeding back some ‘In Our Time’ to the BBC who broadcast on that very subject not that long ago.

    Do the BBC ever listen to, and learn from, their own output?

    No?

    Really?

    Started listening just before the 7.40-ish newspaper review. Air of gloom at BBC in the TOADY studio. Norman Smith almost in tears. Socks at half-mast. ‘Part-time’ was reading from a piece of paper. It sounded like her planned report had been torn up and Sarah Sands or the Editors-of-the-day had pushed a sheet of paper into Laura’s hands at the last minute with the instructions ‘read this’. Black armbands all round, office curtains left almost closed.

    Brandon Lewis had been scheduled to appear for the Conservatives after a night when the BBC had been expecting (hoping?) they would be shredded in the Local Authority elections. He did a good job with an interrupty Martha (goodness, gracious! – she wasn’t like that at Kew Gardens) and accepted the very few losses openly. Martha didn’t like that.

    The Labour Party-loving-BBC are not happy.

    I am.

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    • smoogie7 says:

      Oh I am happy as well!

      No corridors full of empty Champaign bottles today then huh?

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Up
      Thanks for the toady think as I snoozed through it. As I wrote earlier -all those labour politicians who had entries in their diaries to do a victory tour can have the day off!

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      • Up2snuff says:

        smoogie & Fed, LOL.

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      • smoogie7 says:

        Plymouth is where the party is today! Not quite Brighton but it does have green spaces for the remnants of the Corbyn Youth to cheer their saviour on with the now dated chants of ‘Oh, Jeremy Corbyn’ while the most that they can really enjoy is that the weather might be pretty good!

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  24. AsISeeIt says:

    Norman Smith, the BBC political number two to Kuenssberg, in summing up the night’s election results tells us:

    “Brexit is a huge cloud overhanging our politics”

    Sounds a little bit as though he’s not keen.

    I can’t resist this – Norman, could it be that Laura Kuenssberg is: ‘the huge cloud’ that overhangs your career at the Beeb?

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    • Up2snuff says:

      AISI, you have it right, there! You could hear in Norman’s voice, just after Part-time’s appointment, that he was not a happy bunny.

      Think he has some supporters in the Editorial team, because he was given lots of opportunities, except when John Pienaar muscles his way in, during Part-time’s frequent absences

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    • johnnythefish says:

      ‘Subversion of the democratic mandate by Remainers in both houses is like a huge cloud hanging over our politics’ would have been more accurate.

      But the BBC political viewpoint holds sway for 70% of the nation who depend on it for their news.

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  25. scribblingscribe says:

    I have been educated by BBC radio’s ‘flagship’ news program, “Today”. Apparently, labour’s only problem was “managing expectations”.

    Really BBC? The opposition cannot make inroads during the mid term of a government, when opposition parties have always have done so in the past. Labour can’t oust lying tory scum when the BBC have patiently explained that it was lying Tory scum who caused the Grenfell Tower fire, created all the problems in the NHS and are racists to people whose files were destroyed by labour.

    Sorry BBC. But if Labour cannot win seats now then something is wrong and it isn’t “managing voter expectations”.

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    • smoogie7 says:

      Even Corbyn was reduced to let everyone know that ‘The Tories are killing children!’ yesterday out of desperation as perhaps despite his massive ego he knows inside that Labour where not going to do as well as they wanted

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Scrib – they’ll probably blame Jewish people .

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      • smoogie7 says:

        Oh yes, the Jewish people who voted against them for obvious reason of course!

        I am going to be lurking on Facebook today which is where a lot of the action happens. Labour supporters always at war with Tory supporters on the Tory page and of course a lot of trolling. The Labour lot have been very aggressive the past few days but so far a lot of them have been left very quiet. Unless there is a ‘victory’ for Corbyn there is very little for them to get hyped up over but I expect to see Labour share Corbyn’s Plymouth speech all over the internet and no doubt that the BBC will be using that as ‘Glastonbury 2018’

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    • johnnythefish says:

      Oh, I don’t know – they manage mine. Under Corbyn I expect them to be a bunch of lying, anti-Capitalist, anti-Western, anti-Semitic, violent, terrorist-supporting, Islam-loving, communist vermin.

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  26. fakenewswatcher says:

    I haven’t kept up with parties and their performances, but was disappointed with the UKIP result, which provided especially Nick Robinson with a lot of childish glee.
    One would have thought that, with the Lords already having declared war on the people, Commons waiting in the wings to see whether the negotiations sounded as if they might be panning out for the referendum result, in which case THEY would TELL us what they think of us (trumpeting their sovereignty, but forgetting that that DERIVES FROM THE SOVEREIGNTY of the people)- and that it was no business of theirs, stealing the final decision from the people.
    That leaves government, and -in particular- Ms May. The whole lot of them have been disappointing, especially her.
    A strong UKIP would have made her think twice. We had to rely on Tory backbenchers. PHHHHT to that.

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    • ToobiWan says:

      I think a lot of the voters could have been worried that a vote for UKIP would have split the vote and allowed a Labour candidate to get in by default. This happened in my constituency at last year’s GE.

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      • smoogie7 says:

        I think that UKIP won’t gain much support in the long term. I know a few people who still support them but only the strongest of Brexiters. Once we do leave the EU then naturally their support would likely to decline further as they would have achieved their goal by that stage.

        Indeed Labour cannot be trusted on Brexit so if voters want to vote tactfully then the UKIP vote will go towards the Tories instead.

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        • StewGreen says:

          Previous years the BBC had a technique, whereby they only cover UKIP if there’s something negative …and then they’d run attacks on UKIP
          ..that obviously backfired.
          .. So they seem to have reverted to almost zero coverage
          ..and that has worked
          On our local channels there was minimal prior coverage of this weeks councils elections for all parties.

          BTW today’s BBC local news reports followed this format
          Labour loss, bring on the Labour voice
          Labour win, bring on the Labour voice
          ..you had to listen for quite a while to hear a Tory voice.

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          • smoogie7 says:

            Let me guess?

            Labour lost: ‘Local elections do not mean much as the views of local people can change all the time,’

            Labour win: ‘It is clear that our message is getting across and everyone is sick of the Tories so today our mighty leader will be out partying in Plymouth where he shall thank everyone who came out and voted for Labour and made a difference.

            Meanwhile:

            Tory loss: ‘We are disappointed with the result in Trafford,’ *interruption from BBC interviewer* ‘but do you think that people have had enough of austerity and cuts so are looking elsewhere?’

            Tory win: ‘We are happy with the result and would like to thanks everyone who voted for us,’ *interruption from BBC interviewer* ‘But you cannot call this a victory though as local elections do not mean much as the views of local people can change all the time?’

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        • johnnythefish says:

          It’s a pity Farage has disappeared from the national political scene.

          But then when your family has suffered attacks in the street by left wing hate mobs and ongoing threats are being made against you, who can blame him?

          Typical of the state of British politics and life in general – increasingly ruled by the socialist mob.

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  27. ChrisMorrison says:

    The BBC has two main weapons against the serious charges of institutional bias – stout denial and the hide of a rhinoceros. But every now and then the arrows get through and the creature starts to yelp.

    Such a rare event occurred last night on Question Time when the formidable journalist Camilla Tominey provoked David Dimbleby by pointing out that the panel was always composed of a majority of people against Brexit. Dimbleby, a long time noted Corporation grouch, was beside himself with anger, suggesting that it was impossible to always maintain a balance (trying doing it just once, David). Then he fumed that two members of the panel accepted the Brexit vote, as if that justified the initial bias. The magnificent Tominey stuck to her guns. Time is always pressing on the programme – she could gone on to note that no American is ever bought on to explain why Trump won the election and nobody described as a “comedian” is ever funny. Last night’s smug offering Matt Forde made one think that even Marcus Brigstock would have been an improvement.

    Everything about Question Time and its radio twin is subtly staged from the panel to the carefully unselected audience. Note how many times the programme comes from areas of high public sector employment, people most likely to vote for left wing policies. Notice how often teachers and medical staff and social workers are called to ask questions.

    There are more plants on this programme than Gardeners’ Question Time.

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    • Up2snuff says:

      CM, good spot and post.

      Last week’s audience for Any Questions in Sevenoaks was obviously full of ‘plants’. Jonathan Dimbleby at one point tried to explain (trot out the usual BBC claimed, er, I mean lame excuse) that the audience was ‘self-selecting’. (Oh yeah?) He then, almost immediately, shot himself in the foot by pointing out that Kent had voted pretty much in the same national proportion in the EU Referendum.

      I laughed!

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    • Beltane says:

      Quite right CM, the phrase ‘the lady doth protest too much’ summing up Dimblies outrageous and juvenile performance. Camilla was, without any shadow of doubt, the only honest Brexit voice against an array of petty-minded Remainers – but what’s new about that? She should at least take comfort from the fact that her performance made fellow panel members look and sound total lightweights, although I must except Matt Forde whose political acumen and weight of intelligence could be easily exceeded by my 8 month old grandson, even without a full nappy.

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  28. StewGreen says:

    Chiles on £500K or something
    And he doesn’t know basic rules that only voters and candidates are allowed in polling station during voting, so that voters are not influenced.
    Has he not noticed the way that all other journos hang out across the street OUTSIDE the polling station, NOT inside ?

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  29. wronged says:

    How odd it is that I can be sent to prison for not paying for a tv license, yet in prison I would be allowed to watch tv without a tv license!

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  30. Kaiser says:

    Ha Ha radio 5 had decamped on mass to wandsworth expecting a labour coronation party

    they had quick interviews with about 4 locals and bloody hell 2 of them claimed to have family members affected by the windrush “scandal” how lucky is that??

    a long section on the arsenal Chelsea cup final had me a little confused until I realised it was wimmims soccer the final is going to be really close and exciting as they are both such great teams with a horde of trophies apparently blah blah blah

    wimmims soccer is now very popular!! and is catching up in popularity with da da DAAA
    wimmims soccer in the USA
    blah blah blah

    they quietly finished with the kicker walk-up tickets for the final are still available, children get in for free , popular my ass

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    • Woolwich says:

      I remember being taken aback a few years ago when I heard that the England cricket team were playing an international test, on further investigation I wasn’t badly informed it was the women’s team but nothin was said in the bulletin to clarify that.
      Some women’s sport is great, in horse racing men and women compete on equal terms, the Olympic basketball was an eye opener, different to the men’s game and not quite as physical but it had a different set of qualities, especially long range shooting, that made it absolutely a great watch. Then you have cricket and football and at the risk of repeating a cliche one can’t help but think that a well drilled team of keen teenaged lads would compete on equal terms with most international women’s teams.
      So if in the pursuit of diversity and inclusiveness the BBC wish to also broadcast from the local 3G pitch while a group of young amateur men test themselves to a similiar level I won’t complain. I won’t hold my breath.

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  31. Up2snuff says:

    Up to 100g of Novichok were used in Salisbury.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-44002029

    Sorry, BBC, but you previously said it was a liquid. There is definitely some FakeNews or FalseNews there. Are you going to resign, BBC?

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-43798068

    Apart from using a weight measurement for something in liquid form, you are using the term Novichok when the OPCW have previously been very careful not to. You have not questioned that in your article. That’s definitely FakeNews or FalseNews. Are you going to resign, BBC?

    BBC, you are guilty of misleading the public. Are you going to resign?

    BBC? BBC?

    Will you resign?

    (Phew! Can I keep this up four times a day for the next fifteen days, or so, until they do, eventually, resign?)

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    • Al Shubtill says:

      It was probably Fentanyl poisoning, but it’s too late for HMG to change its tune now. There has been too much set in motion off the back of the “Deadly (?) Weapon Grade Russian Nerve Agent Attack”:- worldwide diplomatic expulsions; brink of conflict with Russia in Syria; sanctions etc to walk it back now.

      The Skripals will probably be relocated to the US with a good few quid and told to keep quiet, if they haven’t been already. There has been no news about them for weeks and neither they nor the detective, have been photographed, filmed or interviewed since it happened.

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      • Up2snuff says:

        Al, could have been anything, including a ‘Novichok’ except the OPCW were very careful not to mention that originally.

        I no longer trust BBC journalists and their Editors to be thorough in what they publish and broadcast. The BBC’s integrity is shot. Gone! Especially so since Ritula Shah claimed the BBC were 100% accurate during a long spell of the BBC attacking the new media and social media for being infiltrated and influenced and a platform for FakeNews & FalseNews.

        I suspect that my first guess was possibly correct. Sergei Skripal had probably obtained the drug, whatever it was, in Russia while he was in the GRU or later from a contact in the GRU or FSB. Or Julia did. Or someone else in Russia, or with Russian links, did. Either he or Julia brought it to the UK.

        In the first instance, it was probably a mutual suicide. Significant evidence? The visits to the family graves followed by a final drink and meal together. Don’t forget the poisoning of the pets, too, along with the concentration on the front door handle of the house and, now very significantly, the new news that the Skripals had left a trail of the stuff (small amount – only four BBC teaspoonfuls – just like sugar! < please note a mocking tone is implied there) around Salisbury.

        In the second instance (Julia acquiring or being given the drug) then it could have been a Russian intelligence assassination attempt, by Julia, or a business/criminal hit by her for something or some reason unknown. The third-party assassin theory is not borne out by recent news. There apparently is no apparent third-party perpetrator.

        UK Government involvement. As perpetrators? No. Doesn't hold up to examination.

        However, Theresa May as PM has been under constant pressure since last year's General Election. It is not too far a concept for me to consider that maybe someone decided this event, tragic as it so nearly was for one unconnected person, could be 'played' for political advantage over Jeremy Corbyn and also might bring down one or two other challengers to Theresa May's place in No.10.

        Evidence? Corbyn was attacked straight away – even by the BBC – for his response to Salisbury. And dear old Bojo had one of his 'unconnected brain, moving mouth moments' on it as well.

        Theresa May decided to use it to make herself look like a strong leader on the world stage, especially in Europe and the EU, but didn't realise how quickly things could get out of hand.

        Whether the BBC and media media that is hostile to Theresa May, the Conservative Party & government and Brexit merely reacted out of natural understanding mixed with fear, or, whether they decided just to stir the Cold War/Hot War pot out of malicious intent due to the aforementioned hostility to the PM, etc., I do not know. Either could be a possibility.

        There is another faint possibility. The Civil Service were up to some mischief. In the past I would have been horrified at the suggestion and protested on their behalf their impartiality and integrity. Post-EU Referendum and after other 21st century Whitehall scandals, I am now not so sure.

        We live in interesting times.

        I could be totally or partially wrong, of course. All I have to go on is the evidence, almost entirely from the BBC (courtesy of their inadequate journalism & presentation) together with a little bit from one or two UK newspapers.

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        • Al Shubtill says:

          Up2 – interesting points, where did you learn that the pets were “poisoned” by the Skripals?
          I thought the guinea pigs had died of thirst due to the house being sealed and the cat had to be euthanised at Porton Down due to being so “distressed”; all of the dead animals were subsequently incinerated at Porton Down.
          Because it was just too dangerous to store the bodies due to the potential risk from them – on the premises of one of the world centres for chemical and biological weapons research and production.

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          • Up2snuff says:

            Via the BBC, Al.

            As you point out, there could be an alternative explanation. Can’t rely on the BBC.

            They had better track down that second cat pronto in case it:
            a) kills thousands of humans, and/or
            b) allows a third party to run tests on any possible ‘Soviet era’ chemical weapon it is carrying.

            If they had died from thirst or ‘distress’ there would be absolutely no need to incinerate them due to potential risk, would there?

            Are ‘the authorities’ (including the BBC) now trying to say that the ‘Novichok’ in the house and all over Salisbury was there because of careless investigation by 250 highly trained, specialist troops from a chemical warfare battalion? < Source: BBC R4 News.

            Really?

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  32. Al Shubtill says:

    I caught part of a programme on R4 this morning, about all those hard working foreigners here in the UK and the remittances sent to their home countries; the annual value of which was given as £16 billion and therefore greater than the UK’s exorbitant overseas aid budget.

    I was surprised that al Beebus made such a programme, since they are always (drip-drip) extolling the virtues of the absolute good that is immigration and imply how Britain would practically cease to exist without these folk here.
    Yet here we have £16 billion per year, every year, no longer circulating in our economy, regardless of all the tax these folk (allegedly) pay or how much “shopping” they buy. This is an enormous financial hit to our country and is, not surprisingly, ignored by those who champion unceasing immigration to the UK.

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    • Up2snuff says:

      Al, £16bn per annum gone from the UK economy? That’s up £10bn in about twenty years.

      And in a time of vile austerity, low pay and near total poverty, too.

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  33. StewGreen says:

    Standup Standup !
    J Vine is playing Billy Bragg now
    singing the Internationale

    He’s not messing about ..he’s playing it in full with the encore as well.

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    • StewGreen says:

      Vine “We are talking about the 200th anniversary of Karl Marx
      ..here’s expert PAUL MASON to tell us about it”

      … I’m seriously not making this stuff up

      Ah after 10 mins of lefty crap , Roger Scruton was on talking sense
      now they are back to Paul Marxist Mason

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  34. Panda says:

    BBC are utterly aghast that Labour haven’t swept the board in the local elections. Don’t these silly voters know that Jeremy is the chosen one? Perhaps his ‘message’ hasn’t got through. Yes that must be it.

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  35. Deborah says:

    GOOD NEWS – well at least I take the local election results as good news. In spite of the BBC for the last few weeks working even harder as the Labour propaganda machine for the local elections (i.e. even more bias than usual) and their ‘careful’ choice of subjects to try and discredit the Conservatives even more than ever, the BBC’s influence didn’t work. They are useless.

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  36. Eddy Booth says:

    Can’t see anything on the BBC about this Sunday’s Tommy Robinson inspired march..

    DAY FOR FREEDOM MAY 6TH
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  37. Foscari says:

    It is easy to get paranoid when writing about the BBC. Please
    let me know if I am paranoid to suggest that the political
    correspondent who wrote that Basildon and Peterborough
    which voted to become Conservative councils was thanks
    to UKIP . This appears to me that whoever wrote this was
    being facetious , and could not hold back his own political views.

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  38. Fedup2 says:

    JRM on twitter supports Sir John Curtice ( pollster) saying former UKIPers have returned to the Conservative fold but if HMG doesn’t deliver a proper brexit they’ll be toast .

    I think the really good news is that the results have probably put paid to any real likelihood of a second referendum – unless chuka and the girls in the lords try to fiddle it again. Won’t be hearing anything like that from al beeb for a while – about 325 days to go …

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  39. AsISeeIt says:

    Welshman Huw Edwards puts aside his Welshness (identity politics, eh?) as he leads the BBC’s English local election coverage today and just in case you hadn’t got the BBC narrative loud and clear by now he will just reiterate oncemore for the hard of hearing:

    “THE UKIP VOTE HAS COLLASPSED !!!!”

    Phew, Huw, that’s got that out of the way – for about the next three and half minutes of airtime….

    And here’s another favourite narrative for today – the BBC boffin psephologist has been looking real hard at the last Census for areas where people self-indentify as Jewish (careful, now) and – get this – the Labour vote has dropped due to “what we’re calling the Anti-Semitism row”.

    As a by-the-by the BBC bod on the ground in Barnet reckons when you ask people they don’t know precisely what nastiness was said but just that Jezza was a bit show off the mark dealing with it. So that’s alright, then. Seems it was just an admin issue really.

    You’ll notice, perhaps, the bit of bias by ommission of BBC boffins not looking at all closely at those London boroughs where the Labour vote has gone up and not at all puzzling over which self-identifying community might be concentrated and indeed fast expanding therein that might just be somewhat partial to a bit of Israel-bashing and consequent Jew baiting. Heaven forfend we ever go there. You can put that page of the Census away right now.

       17 likes

    • Fedup2 says:

      Do you ever notice that there are no authodox Jews as reporters on al beeb . ? Obviously no Christians either .

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      • Up2snuff says:

        Fed, don’t forget Motty!

        Oh, he has retired.

        Quite remarkable.

        Anyway, does sports journalism count? I assume you mean News journalists and Presenters.

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  40. MarkyMark says:

    BBC Propaganda …. amazing ….

    German teens condemn ‘unfair’ English exam in petition {bbc.co.uk 04may2018}
    “Grappling with the Statue of Liberty and Brexit in one English exam proved too much for more than 30,000 German school students, who are protesting in an online petition.”

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  41. StewGreen says:

    Voices not heard on BBC
    Ermine elite’s conspiracy against voters. Yorkshire Post – 2018-05-04 – OPINION by Bill Carmichael:
    Treachery – the Fifth Column of Remainers colluding with a foreign power to damage us over Brexit
    https://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/opinion/bill-carmichael-treachery-the-fifth-column-of-remainers-colluding-with-a-foreign-power-to-damage-us-over-brexit-1-9148934

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  42. MarkyMark says:

    One Last Big Push … BBC Top Story (on right) has this image nicely placed in it … “German teens condemn ‘unfair’ English exam in petition”

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  43. Emmanuel Goldstein says:

    On QT last night, Martyn Lewis said that students should not be included in the immigration figures.

    I think it’s meaningless because if, for example, 100,000 students arrive for a 3 year university course, after 3 years 100,000 students will leave.
    A net gain/loss of 0 students.

    Removing the students from the immigration figures will make no difference.
    Maybe the government will have more opportunity to fiddle the figures to somehow make it appear that net immigration is falling but I think they are on full ‘fiddle’ now anyway.

    Also, when they were discussing housing, why did nobody ask “Does the yearly 300,000 net increase from immigration have ANY effect on the housing shortage”
    Most of the 300,000 will be directly competing with our youth for the ‘affordable’ housing.
    Such obvious points.

    Well done Camilla.
    Let’s hope every week the leaver on the panel points this out to Dumbledore.

       9 likes

    • MarkyMark says:

      What if they all have babies and stay?

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      • RJ says:

        “What if they all have babies and stay?”

        They’ll be able to find work as actors in TV adverts.

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  44. MarkyMark says:

    The Labour Left believe the BBC is a propaganda machine for the Conservative Party … this is good news.

    “Labour gained 3 seats in Kensington&Chelsea, the Tories lost 1. An unimaginable result until recently. This, and many others like it, is the untold story of Labour’s successful performance which produced the best results for Labour and the worst for the Tories since 1971.”

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  45. StewGreen says:

    BBC More or Less on Farage
    and the fallacy of shouting “Farage is on Question Time again, he’s been on 32 times”
    Most people know that is ridiculous lefty smear
    Other people have been on more , and it’s lying by omission to say hes the most frequent guest by year, if you don’t add that other people are only a fraction behind him
    He’s had 1.7 appearances/yr but a heap of people are on 1.6
    in 2017 thru 2018 he’s been on just once
    In 2016 he was on twice
    Overall UKIP take up 5% of QT guests yet they took 12% of the election vote.

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  46. StewGreen says:

    You know who does get a disproportionate amount of air time, @EmilyThornberry
    and she’s on Any Questions tonight
    \\ @dimbleby_jd will be joined by @andrealeadsom @piersmorgan @EmilyThornberry & @Wintersonworld
    https://bbc.in/2KB42eE

    So writer Jeannette Winterson is a Brexiteer ? NOT
    She tweeted
    \\ Why do politicians keep telling us we have to honour Brexit when this dishonourable campaign was built on deliberate lies for personal gain? //

    23 May 2017 Someone called her out
    \\ Jeanette Winterson blames the manchester attack on @UKIP & #brexit in the @standardnews @Wintersonworld save your bile for child killers… //

    andrealeadsom is Brexit, what about slimey Morgan ?
    He’s a pragmatist
    \\ March 2017 Brexit’s happening.
    President Trump’s happening.
    Time for all wailing doom-mongers to get a grip & give both a chance to succeed.//

    \\ June 2017 If Britain had to vote again on Brexit today, we’d vote Remain. //

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  47. StewGreen says:

    What is the real windrush number ? MoL said less than 57K but unknown
    It’s a dead give way that a vague number is given, which is clearly not right cos although 57K don’t have UK passports many will have other proper documents

    Their expert said
    Census 2011 600K arrived from Commonwealth before 1971,
    90% have a UK passPort already
    that seems 60K who don’t they say 57K
    21K dont have any pp, 34K have commonwealth pp
    Can they prove UK residence ?
    Many yes via passport stamps, naturalisation certificates etc.

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    • Up2snuff says:

      Stew, buried deep in my brain is the idea that I have heard a stat from the Passport Agency that 87% of the UK population has a Passport of some sort (not necessarily UK) or, in the case of underage little peeps, they will be on their parents Passport. Not sure if I have remembered this right. If I have, it certainly goes back quite a few years to close to 2005/2006, maybe 2007 so could be out of date information.

      Of the true Windrush Generation immigrants (ie. from the Caribbean) it is highly unlikely, I would have thought, for obvious reasons that they do not have (or had at some time) a UK Passport in the succeeding years since their arrival and will therefore be on Passport Agency records.

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      • StewGreen says:

        @Up2snuffIt’s not enough to prove that you came here legally.
        You have to prove that you are a non-returner ie that you didn’t leave the UK for more than 2 years at a time.
        That’s why some got refused at Jamaica airport
        They’d worked in the UK say 20 years, but not bothered to become naturalised , then gone back to live in Jamaica for say 20 years popped back to the UK then gone back to Jamaica, but then the next time they tried to fly UK immigration say “no, you can’t come and live in the UK again cos, by going back to Jamaica for more than 2 years , you lost your status”

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        • Up2snuff says:

          Stew, except that to get the passport you have to provide a UK address. You get your old passports back so, unless you have carelessly thrown them away, you have your continuous residence proof. If you have been on holiday for over two years – lucky you – I suspect that would have been a fraction of the fraction of the Windrush immigrants who had not applied for UK citizenship.

          Counted on the fingers of two hands?

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    • StewGreen says:

      More or Less shortchanged us their expert was Madeleine Sumption of Migration Obvservatory at Oxford University
      What’s the point of her being brought on ? Cos in the end she admitted she had no idea how many people fell through the gap by not having UK pp OR other proper residence proof.
      I et her office is more focused on helping illegals and thwarting Brexit.

      There must be someone with a better grip of the numbers
      I suspect the Windrush pressured are limited to the Senile and criminal, with maybe just 1 or 2 when the home office lost the paperwork.

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  48. Al Shubtill says:

    I wish we had QT panels like these!
    Tony Benn’s verbal flame-throwering of Woy Jenkins is an absolute pearler (5m17s). David Starkey looks like a different person.

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