Midweek Open Thread 6 June 2018

74 years after freeing Europe from the Reich this time we are hopefully freeing our selves from it .

Al beeb will put a remainer spin on it so we post with thanks to those who saved our country and also saved Europe .

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712 Responses to Midweek Open Thread 6 June 2018

  1. MarkyMark says:

    “Take Britain to the Back of the Queue Again.” – Theresa May

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    • Payne by name says:

      Great response that you highlighted though it would have been good if someone had said to The Great Remain that Brexit was an instruction from the majority of the British people in a fair and democratic election.

      Ignoring the wishes of the majority of UK citizens would have been an act of fascism, the very thing that the UK, along with it’s allies, managed to defeat.

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  2. yohodi says:

    Would recommend Hard talk -Misha Hussain interviewing 79 year old Dr Nawal El Saadawi Egyptian Physician Psychiatrist activist and feminist ..Her take on FGM ‘to keep the women calm whilst the men are on Jihad’…my jaw is still on the ground.

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  3. scribblingscribe says:

    Whisper it quietly but The Guardian, the print wing of the BBC, is having a gentle change of mind about the Euro.

    In one piece, just a few days ago, the headline was something along the lines of the ‘the Italians cannot blame the Germans for their problems.” But the article actually did that, ending with what all economists have being saying since the Euro began, that the currency has benefited only Germany and destroyed the economies of most other countries.

    Today, the Guardian has : “The best thing Germany could do for Europe is quit the single currency – but it won’t” by Larry Elliott

    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/jun/06/fix-eu-single-currency-does-not-work

    His opening words: “EU leaders are saddled with a mechanism that doesn’t work. There are ways to fix that, but not the will”.

    Guardian readers are surely collapsing in fits of vapours. Have they really been lied to all these years? Were the economists right and the arts and humanities lefties lying to them for almost 20 years?

    I await the BBC’s take on all this with impatient interest.
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  4. Guest Who says:

    You can take the ideologue out of the bbc, but…

    They should get a room.

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  5. Up2snuff says:

    No TOADY Watch from me – In Our Time Watch instead.

    A change is as good as a rest. The subject for IOT is Persepolis. Three academics (note: two women, often well represented on IOT) manage to get through 45 minutes without mentioning the Bible, Ezra, Nehemiah, Israel and the rebuilding of Jerusalem. despite Cyrus and Darius being key players in the rebuilding of that city. Nothing at all. Zero. The decrees that were made concerning Jerusalem by Cyrus and Darius would have been very similar to those for the building of Persepolis. No mention, not even a brief one.

    I wonder why?

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    • Up2snuff says:

      A mea culpa, (before maxi picks me up on it) I should have, of course, mentioned Daniel – the Bible book and the person – because he had a certain interaction with Cyrus and Darius.

      This is interesting, a personal word from Daniel the Jew.

      Daniel chapter 6 verses 25 to 28.

      25: Then king Darius wrote unto all people, nations, and languages, that dwell in all the earth; Peace be multiplied unto you.
      26: I make a decree, That in every dominion of my kingdom men tremble and fear before the God of Daniel: for he is the living God, and stedfast for ever, and his kingdom that which shall not be destroyed, and his dominion shall be even unto the end.
      27: He delivereth and rescueth, and he worketh signs and wonders in heaven and in earth, who hath delivered Daniel from the power of the lions.
      28: So this Daniel prospered in the reign of Darius, and in the reign of Cyrus the Persian.

      Not mentioned by the BBC on IOT this morning. Funny that.

      I wonder why?

      Er, no, not really I don’t. I can make a certain guess why. King Darius had had ‘a conversion experience’. He had developed a knowledge of, and had started to worship, the God of Israel, the God of the Jews. It probably would not sit well with the way that academe and the BBC currently view Israel to have mentioned that. Melvyn Bragg should have known all that, as an Anglican and father of a Vicar, but not a word from him.

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  6. ToobiWan says:

    Morrisey’s in trouble again!
    https://www.rt.com/uk/428924-morrissey-tommy-robinson-speech/

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    • Kaiser says:

      the daily mail did a hatchet job what the f*** are they up to?

      daily fail

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      • Ian Rushlow says:

        And so brave and clever they are, saying that Tommy Robinson is not his ‘real name’. I don’t recall them refering to the marriage of Henry Charles Albert David Windsor (Saxe-Coburg Gotha if you want to be pedantic) the other week – they were using a ‘false name’ of Prince Harry. The BBC do not use phrases such as ‘George Soros, real name György Schwartz’, or ‘Trotsky, real name David Bronstein’, or use the ‘real names’ of actors and musicians, or of people such as ‘Caitlyn Jenner’ or ‘Chelsea Manning’. It is well established in English law that you can change your name to be whatever you want or use another name (subject to certain restrictions to prevent fraud etc). Such is liberal hypocrisy: you can change your gender (sic) but not your name.

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        • Payne by name says:

          I agree and said it last week. One of the biggest areas of annoyance, and a real marker for those who by the very utterance of this reveal this pre-determined bias against Tommy, are the multitude of twats who feel compelled to give out his real name as if they are some kind of Sherlock Holmes that have managed to find something out that no one else has.

          When they talk about the British actor from Zulu, The Italian Job and Get Carter, do they refer to him as Maurice Micklewhite in the same tiresome fashion?

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          • ToobiWan says:

            And who can forget the stellar performance of Marion Mitchell Morrison, in True Grit, the Longest Day to name just two of his many appearances.

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            • Nibor says:

              Or the holy excellencies , the Popes . Or Mao tse Tung

              Or place names , like Peking and Bombay .

              Or the British Broadcasting Company , now the British Broadcasting Corporation , AKA the BBC , Aunty , or the Beeb .

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      • Lobster says:

        Isn’t it highly unusual for the Mail not to have a comments section after an article? I think that speaks volumes.

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        • Rich says:

          Have you noticed the name of one of the co-authors of that article?

          Sebastian Murphy-Bates. I bet he does. As do most of the current Irish government.

          I would imagine a job at bBbc NI awaits.

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Toobi

      The guardian – which has always loved Morrissey is reporting his support for TR but ironically ‘ comment isn’t free’ on this one – think their website would break Down through support for TR

      I can’t understand why there is no appeal against a 13 month sentence . Long way over the top.

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  7. Guest Who says:

    Quite why this is on ‘politics’ who knows.

    #CCBGB

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      • Tabs says:

        and owner of many of these diesel guzzlers …

        Note: Jet A1 fuel is very similar to diesel 🙂

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        • Up2snuff says:

          Tabs, before maxi gets you. I’m going to be a pedant again, two days in a row. Phew!

          It is only similar in that it is primarily oil based. Jet fuel is strictly more petroleum derived, not diesel, and these days it may include a small amount of some ‘greening’ (aka greenwashing) fuels in the mix.

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          • Tabs says:

            I can be a pendant too!

            Jet A1 fuel is a pure form of diesel which has to pass more rigorous checks for the batch to be approved. It is nothing like petrol at all. Jet fuel is oily and a split puddle of it will not ignite like petrol would. You can put Jet fuel in diesel trucks (as some airports do) and it will run exactly like diesel fuel. Difference is price but on airports that don’t have diesel available for the ground vehicles will often use Jet A1 instead.

            Some light aircraft now use diesel piston engines and these burn Jet A1 fuel.

            You might be thinking of Jet B fuel which is a mix of petrol and kerosene but that isn’t used much these days, if at all, at the usual passenger airports. It might be found in very cold climates where normal Jet A1 fuel may freeze before Jet B fuel would.

            Source: I’m a part time EASA Commercial Pilot.

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            • Up2snuff says:

              I was thinking of JetB as well as A because I thought that was now more commonplace, Tabs. However, I thought A & B were both high flash point fuels (unlike the old Avgas which would make a parrot go “Whoof”) and that both were distilled from Kerosene which comes from a petroleum distillate. Wiki appears to confirm that but Wiki can be wrong. It may need a correction from you. IIRC, Brent Crude is so pure & clean, most of the time, it can go straight into a diesel engine without problems. Can you put it through an aero jet turbo/turbofan?

              “Source: I’m a part time EASA Commercial Pilot.” Am grateful to m’learned friend for the correction. “I can be a pendant too!” Lots of hanging around experience, waiting for a customer for a flight?

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        • Fedup2 says:

          Up- you fancy doing a hydrocarbon special questions on mastermind ? Branson’s rocket it gonna be powered by electricity . Unfortunately when he gets to the moon there’s nowhere to plug in a 3 point 13 amp job .

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          • Up2snuff says:

            Think I might have other Sp.Subjects for that, Fed. Although I am learning all the time, on fuels and other stuff. Even if the BBC omit a lot of educate & inform these days in order to squeeze in their propaganda instead.

            Is Branson using the Battery Man’s rocket? I thought the Virgin thing was more like a plane.

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            • Fedup2 says:

              No up he is just using a very long electric cable to avoid having a big slipper print

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              • Nibor says:

                I thought it would be solar powered .

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                • Al Shubtill says:

                  I wonder if he’ll go mental like he did when he was in that hot air balloon and thought it was going to crash, then destroyed the tape which showed him going bananas?

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    • MarkyMark says:

      Man who hates the NHS so much that he sues it says …. listen to me ….

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    • Payne by name says:

      Nice. Out of touch billionaire reveals how little he understands what the impact of bringing forward a ban on petrol and diesel cars will be.

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      • Up2snuff says:

        Don’t think the politicians and Civil Servants have really thought it through, Payne.

        Meanwhile, over on Paul Homewood’s excellent site, there is a post (by him) about the latest emissions stats from HMG. First Citizen Khan will not be pleased to see them.

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    • Roland Deschain says:

      Apropos of nothing, Mike Oldfield included a Morse Code section in his Amarok album that said “F**K OFF RB” after a disagreement with said gentleman. Who am I to disagree?

      https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amarok_(Mike_Oldfield_album)

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      • Fedup2 says:

        Roland – there was always a question about where mr pickle got his initial investment which some say might have been from controlled herbal imports

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        • Al Shubtill says:

          He should also have gone to prison for the fraudulent import / export scam he pulled with records when he first got going; but Mummy spoke nicely to the judge at his trial on his behalf.

          I would recommend Tom Bower’s biography of Branson, which he fought tooth and nail to prevent being published (always a good sign something is worth a look) it shows quite what a delightful chap he isn’t.

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  8. Guest Who says:

    Luckily for Nicky, his views are his own. Apparently.

    https://twitter.com/wallaceme/status/1004655116509687809?s=21

    Just one of the unique ways the bbc is not like other folk.

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  9. MarkyMark says:

    The West tries to liberalise Islam …

    But the mosque is not unusual because of its location. Rather, because of the people who come here. At Berlin’s newest mosque, men and women pray together, women are allowed to lead Friday prayers, and gay, lesbian and transgender people are welcome.

    “Our mosque is open for everybody,” says mosque founder Seyran Ates, a German Turkish-born lawyer and women’s rights activist.

    Islam (in Egypt) says Islam is perfect and cannot accept gays …

    The founder of a new liberal mosque in Berlin that allows men and women to pray side by side has vowed to press on with her project even though the institution has been issued with a fatwa from Egypt and attacked by religious authorities in Turkey within a week of its opening.

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    • G says:

      Toobi,
      As with Amy and her “Homophobic” issue of having uttered, “Have a gay day”, did the police threaten to break her door down to get to her?
      We don’t know.

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  10. JamesArthur says:

    Ah…R4…today….will be discussing on WH why there are no women on the Forbes top sports earners this year ..why it is and what they can do about it??
    I am struggling to see why they don’t know the answer and why it is so important. They don’t attract the same audience as men….and it is mainly men who watch sport – and they even said Serena fell out this year because she had a baby..answer number 2..

    I am pretty sure if you did a list of top paid fashion models there wouldn’t be too many men – what can we do about that!!

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    • ToobiWan says:

      I am pretty sure if you did a list of top paid fashion models there wouldn’t be too many men – what can we do about that!!

      Same in Porn industry, James (so I’ve heard) most women are paid much more than men.

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  11. MarkyMark says:

    So … Christianity and easter bad …. make it about chocolate. (REMOVE RELIGION)

    Attacks on Islam about turning British Street party into Ramadan celebration. (ADD ONE RELIGION ONLY)

    “Hundreds of people attended a memorial event, which aimed to combine a traditional British street party with breaking the day’s fast” {bbc.co.uk 07jun2018}
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-44394666

    NOTE: No British flags flying.

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    • Tabs says:

      What better way for Corbyn to mark the D-Day anniversary!

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      • MarkyMark says:

        British man paid by British people sits with Islam (4% of population) to celebrate D-Day …. Diversity-Day!

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  12. Eddy Booth says:

    Is that the same Branson that is planning pointless space tourism?
    I wonder what filth those rockets will pump out

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  13. Fedup2 says:

    Marky,

    I wonder if comrade Corbyn realises they’d kill him as a kaffir?

    And try now awful From Our Own Correpondent.

    First story about Muslim Pakistani peasants killing kids they use as slaves. .managed to get through that one. – how hard. It. Is to do ram a van in Iceland. . Offswitch

    Can only be a matter of time when Al Beeb does a “ come and join Islam month” the wahibis are certainly in charge now.

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  14. StewGreen says:

    @TalkRadio hit back at James O’Brien snarling at Paul Dacre

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  15. MarkyMark says:

    797 Lords.
    650 MPs.
    £300 for Lords to enter a heated room for the day with free coffee and biscuits.
    18% MPs Pay rise since 2010.
    0 Interest in the citizens.

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  16. vlad says:

    The excellent Rod Liddle on the odious wimmin on Radio 4:
    “There are too many women on Radio 4 and they’re always moaning”
    The Speccie: https://www.spectator.co.uk/2018/06/there-are-too-many-women-on-radio-4-and-theyre-always-moaning/

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  17. MarkyMark says:

    Why am I always discussing Islam?
    What do I have to always fight it?
    I would rather talk about better things in life … but Islam demands that we talk about it.

    It’s not that we are interested in Islam, it’s that Islam is interested in us … and wants to remove Western freedoms (slowly … Halal chicken by Halal chicken) so it can then dominate.

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  18. StewGreen says:

    Times \\ A London fashion director who was shouted at and kicked by a stranger on a busy Tube carriage has condemned two “WHITE middle-class” men
    who she said simply moved seats rather than try to help her //

    Now why would the text mention “white” ?
    ..yep it’s those Japanese men again
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    • MarkyMark says:

      Kim Jong-un suspect in Train Attack …

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    • Kaiser says:

      anyway it appears shes happy about more immigrants as they are needed to protect her from the other immigrants

      The fashion CEO is keen to stress she does not blame this man, who she describes as being 6ft tall and asian

      She said she believes he needs medical help but added the incident was ‘terrifying’.

      Ms Cincik said: ‘Children were crying and women were crying, it was awful. I wasn’t crying I was in shock.

      ‘I remain more angry with those white middle class men who left me to it. As fathers, husbands and sons they should be ashamed of themselves.’

      Miss Cincik praised those who came to her aid as ‘angels’, saying: An Eastern European man who had seen the guy on the platform had worked his way down the train as he felt that man was dangerous and he got to me when the train stopped.

      Any bets on how much this woman privately sneers at white working class men hint google her brexit views

      Just another middle class rich person, getting the rewards of the things she supports in my eyes

      ps yes the blokes that moved are pussies (but probably aware of knife crimes) and karma should mean its their wives next,

      but hey hoe sow the cultural marxist wind, reap the whirlwind

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      • RobRoy says:

        Kaiser, you can bet had the ‘white, middle-class men’ intervened she would have castigated them later for mistreating the ‘6 foot asian’ who obviously only required some TLC and an understanding ear. Later in R5 they interviewed a man who had helped out a mugging victim only to be arrested by police! Luckily the case was thrown out of court, but you can see why many wouldn’t want to get involved.

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        • RobRoy says:

          Anyway, she’s a woman and doesn’t need a patronising male to help her out.

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          • Payne by name says:

            Exactly what I was thinking. If the guys had stepped in, she would probably have loudly remonstrated them in the hope that it would dissuade the attentions of the 6ft rocket man.

            I used to be all for protecting women but if this woman is adamant that the 6ft Asian isn’t to be blamed would she have offered any sympathy if one of the white guys had got stabbed protecting her honour?

            If society wants to blame anyone for men not chivalrously coming to the rescue of women, blame the overly vocal feminists.

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          • Rich says:

            Rob,and

            She’s also the founder of a non-profit pro-EU pressure group of fashionistas, full of their own self-importance, called Fashion Roundtable. Connections to Labour and access to Parliament.

            ‘The essential link between fashion, politics, business and the consumer’. Apparently.

            I smell agenda driven bullshit myself.

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      • Guest Who says:

        As pointed out, after the treatment meted out by authorities and media to a pensioner defending himself and home against a fellow white male, true bravery would indeed be a young suited couple so much as looking askance disapprovingly at they who can claim all wrongs.

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      • Fedup2 says:

        Any one intervening would have been insane . Our authorities have made it that way .

        Chivalry is not a legal defence in either criminal or civil proceedings .

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  19. Kaiser says:

    Police given more time to question MEN arrested on suspicion of terror offences

    its getting very close to home now, my dad goes to the pub quiz on the end of that street

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Kaiser – I. Can beat that – the bitch who planned to. take her baby on a plane and blow it up on the way to America lived opposite me in good old Londonistan. She is still alive unfortunately and probably out by now. Need the death penalty for them .

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      • imaynotalwaysloveyou says:

        Some years ago I actually worked in the same office as a young feller who was later done for terrorism a couple of years afterwards, I think he’s still inside. All I remember of him was that he seemed a bit dim, but otherwise normal-ish. He’d go on and on about the gym and weight-lifting.

        I’d assumed he was a muslim from his name at the time, but after the trial it turned out he was a convert. His family were quite well-to-do and were Christian. He went properly bonkers from watching too many jihadist videos I think, and developed an unhealthy interest in explosives. He was caught before doing any proper mischief – actually thanks to other muslims alerting the old bill. If only that would happen more often..

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  20. Fedup2 says:

    Although al Beeb now has. A 24. Hour Grenfell news channel methinks they wont be. Reporting. Another. Nine. Diverse fraudsters. Falsely Claiming benefits. As victims . I think. I might if it’s that easy .

    I’m. Waiting. For al Beeb. To start selling. A. Grenfell. Calendar , wall. Chart , model tower block. There must be a film- sorry – movie. – in the making with a. Diverse cast. Of. Thousands.( sorry about the illegal punctuation but. Me. iPad. Screen. Isn’t well ).

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  21. Jeff says:

    Breaking news, though the BBC are doing their darndest to camouflage it; nine more people have been arrested over Grenfell fraud.
    Cor blimey, what a bleedin’ shock. I’m gob smacked. Knock me down with a feather…
    No photographs of these scallywags at the moment. Of course I’m guessing all of them will be native Brits.
    Cough…splutter…snigger…

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    • Kaiser says:

      there will soon be more fraudsters than actual dead

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    • Foscari says:

      Jeff-Let’s see if Riz Lateef or Asad Ahmad mention it on the
      Londonistan progaramme this evening.

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      • ToobiWan says:

        Fos,
        Rearrange the following into a famous phrase or saying;
        your, hold, breath, don’t.

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        • Al Shubtill says:

          Doesn’t it show, all these fraudsters that keep cropping up, that they didn’t have a f***ing clue who was in that building?

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  22. Tabs says:

    Perfect example of BBC bias today….

    Stockholm lorry attacker Rakhmat Akilov jailed for life
    An Uzbek man who carried out a lorry attack which killed five people in Sweden last year has been sentenced to life for terrorist crimes.

    Note that there is no mention of the words “terror attack”.
    Compare that with…

    Finsbury Park terror attack victims ‘still suffering’
    Survivors of a London terror attack are still suffering a year on, one victim’s brother has said.

    I would guess that using a lorry to run people over is not a terror attack but using a white van is a terror attack – or does “terror” now only apply to white skin people running down Muslims?

    Edit: very similar to how the BBC use to say Israelis “died” whilst Palestinians were “murdered” in like for like violence.

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Another proud example to hang on their statue of George Orwell

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    • Roland Deschain says:

      Makes it sound like he attacked a lorry. Had it insulted his prophet?

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      • imaynotalwaysloveyou says:

        Teddies and candle vigils for lorries is the next step!

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  23. Rich says:

    The undercurrent of anti-British pro-Europe rhetoric and bias on the Daily Politics has become a tidal wave.

    Shameless and sniggering supposition and hearsay, why and how IDS sat to be ridiculed, to have his integrity openly questioned and accused of incompetence by a group of conceited crusaders and unchallenged critics is beyond me.

    I haven’t seen this programme for a long time, it made me tired, but it seems to have lost all sense of balance and relevance entirely.

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  24. Tabs says:

    Just heard on Jeremy Vine Show Radio 2 an interview on how to fight off moped thieves wearing a crash helmet.

    Guest, “…grab the bottom of the handle like this…..pull it back like this…..then I can go for their shins….. see what I’m doing…..like this….”.

    Jeremy, “yes, I can see that would be very effective”

    Someone ought to tell Jeremy “£750,000 a year” Vine that his radio listeners (both of them) cannot see what he and his guest are doing via the medium of radio.

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    • Al Shubtill says:

      I thought it was funny the other day on Whine’s show, when an old al Beebus reporter was on to discuss the Jeremy Thorpe saga and compare it to their current drama.

      In reference to how Norman Scott is being portrayed, the chap said that it wasn’t really true to life because Scott was a big strapping fellow: “Not at all a pansy.”
      I’m not sure his career with al Beeb would last too long if it was starting today and he used that particular epithet in one of his reports.

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    • JimS says:

      I read a comment earlier today in which the writer said that he thought that the world was becoming more tolerant and that we were less distrustful of strangers, all that was needed to complete the road to Utopia was for the oldies to die off.
      Now it is just possible that the youngsters in the West have been trained to regard the stranger as a friend, (“Refugees Welcome Here!”), but it is somewhat naïve to assume that the stranger has gone through the same process. The fact that the stranger appears to retain the same language, dress and behaviour as ‘back home’ doesn’t give me much confidence, but then my time is limited.

      Forgetting about the strangers from abroad for the moment, what about the previously ‘excluded’, the homosexuals, ‘trans-genders’ and assorted weirdos. Now that ‘inclusivity’ is the buzzword, i.e. society at large is supposed to be more ‘tolerant’, I don’t see it being reciprocated. Flaunting ‘Gay Pride’ is hardly promoting ‘inclusivity’ the other way is it? And as for rabid Feminism, well it is clear that the endpoint is similar to the PLO’s plans for Israel.

      Personally I would rather keep my homeland and let the strangers improve theirs to the point that I might just consider visiting them.

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  25. ToobiWan says:

    Free speech is OK in principal, all depends on which direction it comes from.
    Hate speech is the same, all a question of which side is spouting it.
    https://www.forbritain.uk/_antifa_show_their_true_colours_in_lewisham?utm_campaign=last_chance_for_lewisham&utm_medium=email&utm_source=forbritain

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    • MarkyMark says:

      “Free speech, and freedom of thought, is the foundation of what we are. (Western World)” – David Starkey

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  26. MarkyMark says:

    Dear House of Lords,

    Would you please supply me by email the names of peers in the Lords who are in receipt of EU pensions.

    Thank you,

    Yours faithfully,

    . . . .

    The House Administration does not hold a list of members who are in receipt of EU pensions.

    Paragraph 57 of the Code of Conduct and Guide to the Code covers members’ responsibilities in relation to the registration and declaration of any EU pensions:

    “57.Members are not required to register pension arrangements, unless conditions are attached to the continuing receipt of the pension that a reasonable member of the public might regard as likely to influence their conduct as parliamentarians. Such conditions attaching to pensions from European Union institutions do not normally require the pension to be registered or declared in proceedings in the House.”

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    • ToobiWan says:

      Vested interests don’t apply to these bastards, MM.
      Could it be that they obtain a financial advantage by staying in the EU?
      If so, it should disqualify them from sitting on any committee, meeting, what ever, discussing the leaving of the EU.
      Not exactly impartial, what?

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  27. Beeb Brother says:

    This is a great article I thought I would share.

    https://quillette.com/2018/06/04/prison-house-political-language/

    Beeb moaning earlier about not enough women giving evidence to select committees. All feminist/#Metoo anger should be directed at stopping the rape gangs. It is like trying to fly space ships before you can crawl – not having school children raped is about as fundamental as it gets.

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  28. Marion says:

    “Brussels boots out UK military – ‘UK no place in defence of Europe'”

    Now you tell us, 80 years too late.

    https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/970840/Brexit-news-EU-ends-British-military-in-Europe-over-security-issues

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  29. OldEngineOil says:

    Final word on sport I promise , my mum loves tennis, as do the women at work. Just been watching a brief bit of the tennis on Eurosport……FFS is it that painful part of the month?? Or are the two women giving birth live on court???
    Roger Federer on the other hand is just brilliant, a tennis player I can watch. I guess he has waited out the French in order for Wimbledon?

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  30. G says:

    Croatians will have rights of “Free Movement” as from the 30th June.
    https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/832716/brexit-latest-news-croatia-migrants-settle-uk
    They, “demanded” the right to settle in the UK before Brexit.
    What can the Croatians bring to the Multikulti party? Well, seems they’re the third largest exporter of arms to the US.
    https://www.total-croatia-news.com/business/26424-10-of-firearms-imported-to-us-comes-from-croatia
    Croatians are predominantly Catholic and as staunch followers, are highly professional gun-runners. No conflict there then. They should fit in rather well over here. In fact, their arrival on the scene might well be just in time to ply their preferred trade.

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    • Fedup2 says:

      G
      Speaking as a Catholic it sounds like Croatians are Taylor made for bandit country in south Tyrone . Sorry about the sick humour but the idea of further imports of guest workers to Blighty can only make me laugh .
      More seriously l was trying to do the sums on bribing voters in the republic of Eire to leave the EU which would take away the the border problem .

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      • Kaiser says:

        how about £40billion

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        • Fedup2 says:

          Kaiser – I was trying to work the sums out. There was a poll in Ireland a while ago where on a fair size survey they found that 40% would leave because they are fed up with fellow EU citizens turning up and claiming benefit / causing more trouble than they are worth . Blighty is probably the biggest export market for the Republic so we should use that as leverage .

          History will look back and wonder how the conservatives elected a car crash remainer PM when it needed a tough rough brexiter . Shocking .

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          • Kaiser says:

            tough rough brexiter

            If only eire was a sovereign nation that could make its own trade decisions and make a free trade deal with the uk in their own interests

            oh dear no they cant do that!!

            fuck em shut the border impose tariffs, or dont buy irish goods like me, fuck em

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      • Al Shubtill says:

        The Croats are tough folk, they were never conquered by the Ottomans.

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  31. fakenewswatcher says:

    Emma Vardy on the BBC tv News at six, very excited that the Supreme Court has indicated that abortion law in NI can be overturned, and if an individual were to bring a case, it would rule in their favour. The excitement was because such an individual has already popped up. Surprise!
    A human rights issue, apparently.
    So really, devolved powers can be overturned/ignored if judges know better. I’m trying to figure out whether this is another blow for democracy?
    Ever since Eire voted on this, the pressure suddenly built up on Stormont to follow suit.
    Prelude to Irish unification (along with the border issue, a simple thing deliberately made complex)?

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    • Rich says:

      No fake, it’s not a prelude to Irish unification, speaking as someone who lives here, it’s just more noise from the empty vessels.

      The thing is that abortion is legal in NI if there is a threat to the life of the mother or a direct threat to her physical or mental well-being and subsequent quality of life. A bit broader and more open to interpretation than the bBbc and the anti-British and feminazi shit-stirrers, because that is all they really are, would have us believe.

      Some well meaning and genuine women are being manipulated here by people, like Sinn Fein and Stella Creasy, who I don’t think really care about women’s rights or equality in Northern Ireland half as much as they say they do, their real aim is to undermine the British government and to further their own political agendas.

      I’m broadly pro-choice but there has to be some control, some rational discussion and debate here and only here in Northern Ireland, so that ultimately the women of Northern Ireland can decide upon this themselves.

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      • Fedup2 says:

        Rich
        You got to love Stella Creasy – or is it lady Creasy due to her aristocratic background . Her constituency in east London isn’t twinned with any part of Ireland but she is full on for the right to kill baby boys and girls to accord with the right to choose in the north of Ireland or Northern Ireland – depending on ones view.

        I’m a chap and know that when it is wanted – life is cheap .

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      • fakenewswatcher says:

        Thanks, Rich.

        ‘Their real aim…’, you say. Yup, I think that’s what was bubbling up in my mind.
        The rational debate by the people directly concerned, is what’s missing.
        There was a sudden tide, like a Tsunami, that rolled over all pause for thought.
        Right now, the British government looks underminable, regrettably.
        So some are taking advantage..?

        (And that would include especially the EU, whose bigwigs have seen an opportunity to exploit?)

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    • Kaiser says:

      human rights huh
      human rights for irresponsible humans
      how many types of contraceptive are there now?
      my ex managed to avoid conceiving for 20 years

      jeez they chased mengele to the grave for killing children

      make your feckin minds up

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  32. chrisH says:

    Typical BBC huh?
    Paul Dacre is standing down from the Mail.
    Anne Leslie has worked with him, and has a raft of stories we could have enjoyed.
    But, we can`t let her give us the benefit of all that experience, our greatest living female journalist can we?
    So let`s put Polly Toynbee in to stymie her,
    Thus we get endless ack-ack deflection tactics, sneering, smearing and red herrings from old Bolly. And I can hardly get any front line stuff from Anne.
    Guess Anne would be too dangerous to the BBC unopposed, as if endless inanity from Humph isn`t the same.
    Typical BBC crap.

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    • Dave S says:

      Last sentence sums the BBC up nowadays. We know it is crap and i suspect they do too in the wee small hours.
      Why would any half decent journalist want to work for it?
      Money and a bit if fame just about sums it up

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    • Emmanuel Goldstein says:

      Chris,
      On the running banner on Sky news now, Geordie Grieg will take over Dacre’s job at the mail.
      Grieg is the mail on Sunday editor.
      The MoS is the opposite to the daily mail as the MoS is a left wing paper so bang goes a right wing paper.

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  33. chrisH says:

    I know zip about Margaret Attwood, she`s sounding like a serial Canadian lefty idiot on Bookclub as I`m listening now.
    On watching bits of her serialisation, having read the book way back?
    Seems to think that Trump is her terror, and not aborting women who do mad jobs for the state and die as bitter old crones.
    As for Islam and what IT is now doing to women? As for what Clinton did?
    …..oh….let`s get back to you on that one…here`s a pill in the meantime.

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    • Up2snuff says:

      chrisH, Margaret Attwood. What a wonderful voice.

      When she reads her own books on R4 Book at Bedtime insomniacs everywhere rejoice.

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  34. Guest Who says:

    Someone shared this and I thought it a worthy few minutes. Apols if already on here.

    Have to say that Amol is no Andrew Neil. In fact he would run Emily M close in the short plank department.

    His earwig must have been buzzing as the edit suite were bellowing at him to stop getting schooled.

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Guest – I can’t remember when this took place but i guess this is why amol does easy subjects as opposed to failing to shut up some one who knows what they are talking about.

      As usual the other guests look ga ga when JRM is explaining .

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      • Fedup2 says:

        Stop press

        Apparently nasa has found life on Mars – and it’s already had a letter for TV Licencing saying they’ve opened an investigation .

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    • Nibor says:

      What he says about the police being political applies to TR .

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  35. Foscari says:

    I may of missed the Londonistan programme mentioning
    that there were a further nine arrests for suspected
    Grenfell faudsters. But it would not surprise me if it
    was just kept stumm.
    But the rest of the programme was just about par. We saw
    a cyclists demonstration in Woolwich . Apparently it’s a
    very dangerous place to cycle. One of the leaders of the demo
    took us around some of the black spots on his bike. However
    I am not surprised it’s dangerous , as he wasn’t wearing a safety
    helmet, weaving in and out of the trucks.
    And now for something completely different. When any of
    you in London are being mugged or knifed or shot, you should
    have empathy for your attacker.
    You see it was explained to us on the programme that the
    gangs that are doing this, are similar to front line soldiers
    going into battle. They suffer the same stresses. As Richard
    Littlejohn says” You couldn’t make it up!!”

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Fos
      Personally I worry about the health and safety of scooter muggers on unsafe roads and breathing in polluted air . No one should have to commit muggings in such terrible conditions .

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      • Foscari says:

        -Fedup2 The BBC must be pleased that the stress ridden scooter
        muggers are at least wearing protection helmets, as opposed
        to the cyclists in Woolwich.

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  36. Rich says:

    Who is the bBbc pillock who keeps shouting questions, I think with the hint of a Scottish accent, at politicians going in and out of Downing Street?

    He was on two of their news reports in this evening’s news programme in two different locations. They even edit the reports to include his bawling. Has anybody ever answered this moron?

       16 likes

    • Lobster says:

      Jacob Rees-Mogg would no doubt tell him to “Go forth and multiply – Genesis 9:7”

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      • imaynotalwaysloveyou says:

        Lobster – if only. As much as I admire JRM for his intelligence and thoughtfulness, answering questions properly in interviews, and actually being reasonably Conservative compared to the rest of his awful party..

        Yet I feel he’s like Walter the softy from the Beano. That man needs backup snarling bodyguards like Norman Tebbit back in the day. Or an Alistair Campbell type. JRM is in the wrong party IMO, and even if he isn’t I can’t see him making a bid for the leadership. Not ruthless enough.

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  37. Lucy Pevensey says:

    Trump the racist. Trump the misogynist. So we are told repeatedly.
    What a load of effing liars the MM are.
    https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/trump-frees-woman-after-kardashian-intervention/ar-AAykhTM?li=BBoPWjQ&ocid=mailsignout
    AAyiRRb.img?h=450&w=799&m=6&q=60&o=f&l=f&x=699&y=421

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  38. Sluff says:

    Sometimes the bias comes out by juxtaposition.
    At 1330 on TWATO there was, for reasons not entirely clear, a walk down the memory lane of the flawed but in truth parliamentary-arithmetically-awkward Major years. Yes, he was weak. Yes times were difficult (mainly caused by the fixation with the ERM) . And yes, the BBC were within their remit to review it, though perhaps not as enthusiastically acerbically as they did.
    But then in contrast immediately after, at 1345, we get Nick Toenails Robinson ‘interviewing’ ( aka a cosy undemanding fireside chat) one Angela Rayner, the rising star, uneducated, unmarried mother, Labour working class girl made good. The aim being clearly to humanise and popularise her.
    In other words, over a continuous 30 minutes the clear and deliberate message is ‘Tories weak and inept, Labour likeable and cuddly’.
    What a pile of biased shite.

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    • Fedup2 says:

      I remember when Brillo took apart rayner on teacher pupil numbers and she did a “ numbers” job in the way other labour front benchers do – wearing a “single Mum comprehensive school” only you takes you so far me thinks . Talent is a bit more important although as some might say – she has got a mouth on her .

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    • Kaiser says:

      even as a northerner I just cant warm to this thick ideologue, the continuous repetitive spouting of 70’s TUC conference style bollox just winds me up, she has zero imagination, zero opinions that dont follow the party line, and for a northerner cant even be “straight talking”

      just another bandwagon jumper trying to sell a sob story, not even bright enough to keep her legs shut or buy a jonnie, she now wants to run a country,

      fuck right off

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  39. vlad says:

    Oh look, the mother and baby stabbing suspect has a distinctly diverse name and appearance.
    Oh look, the beebistan don’t seem very interested.

    Seems he was one of those nice illegal immigrants – sorry, children – the luvvies get so excited about.
    rehan-khanJPG.jpg

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    • Fedup2 says:

      I saw that this creature was subject to a deportation order to Pakistan but he should be at home in londonistan

      Perhaps stabbing 11 month old babies is a heritage thing in diverse communities .

         23 likes

      • vlad says:

        You can see why they want Sharia. Stabbing your wife is no big deal, specially if she disobeyed you, refused sex or burnt your dinner.
        Maybe the baby showed her face in public, so she deserved it too.

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    • Sluff says:

      These vulnerable children really do need to shave more often

         21 likes

  40. Sluff says:

    Apologies if covered above.
    This morning on the radio (5 live I think) we had an article on FGM. In particular we also had something that is not in fact FGM but instead consensual vaginal body piercing. Now not mine or Mrs. S’s cup of tea but each to her own. It turns out there were 1500 FGM reported cases last year ( though I believe no successful prosecutions). The two insidious points are these. The authorities have decided to include consensual body piercing in the statistics. And the BBC got through the whole article without one mention of the Religion of Peace. It is if the authorities are trying to massage the whole issue so they can say it is a ‘general community issue’ rather than the cultural and relgious issue most of us know it to be.
    How very 1984. Ignorance is strength. Freedom is slavery.

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    • Kaiser says:

      simple solution to insidious problem

      if you need NHS treatment due to FGM (i presume this is how they find the stats)

      the parents pay the bill for the treatment , full fucking stop, directly from benefits , 100% of if need be.

      we try to seize the assets of gangsters so why not these animals.

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  41. Kaiser says:

    nice pug real nice 🙂

    proper take down

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  42. Kaiser says:

    nice pug real nice 🙂

    proper take down

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  43. Up2snuff says:

    Alcohol drinking among young people is said to be in decline. The BBC, worried that they may have to pay more in Income Tax to make up for the lost duties, are trying to get the young to get bladdered at home instead of in Town Centres as in the Blair & Brown era.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcthree/article/8c1960fc-5a7f-4f4a-9e82-d9e774c4ee5a

    Never mind the Global Warming, all that near naked drinking with the heating thermostat turned up.

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  44. Up2snuff says:

    Back to the BBC’s problems with maths. Here – https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-44386267 – I keyed in a postcode and looked at the house prices above £1m. The BBC tell me this: “In Haringey there were 2,008 homes over £1m sold since 2007, with the most expensive sold for £18,000,000.”

    Knowing the Borough quite well, I found it hard to believe that a house could achieve that figure, even on the Highgate side. The best 4/5/6 beds achieve £3-£5m. When I check, the £18,000,000 sale – assuming the search engine is right – appears to be £1,800,000.

    Ooops, must be that BBC NHS floating decimal point again. Never mind that £1.8m is not the highest for the Borough.

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  45. Guest Who says:

    One. Trick. Pony. Show.

       8 likes

  46. Guest Who says:

    I reckon that at dawn, there will be a scag load of handbags.

       4 likes

  47. Guest Who says:

    Bbc News.

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