Weekend Open Thread 14 July 2018

Our beloved al beeb is in full anti President Trump mode . It gave up any pretence of neutrality ages ago and just rants in an unfocused group think way .

At times like this it is easier than normal to evidence the bias so please do….

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411 Responses to Weekend Open Thread 14 July 2018

  1. vlad says:

    Trump for President of Oceania (US + UK)!!


    • Sluff says:

      ‘Trump tells us truths we don’t want to hear’
      ‘On Brexit, trade, Nato spending, or China, the President has a habit of saying what more genteel folk secretly think’.

      Now who could have said this?
      A ‘right wing’ reactionary?
      Any number on this website?
      Any number of people regularly denounced by the BBC LeftMob?
      Nope. Matthew Parris!!!!! In Saturday’s Times !!!!

      Could the penny finally be dropping among a few of the liberal elite?


      • Richard Pinder says:

        Trump tells us scientific truths, censored by the BBC. On Climate Change, the President has a habit of telling us what more intelligent scientists have recently found out. That Man-made Climate Change has been proven to be a Hoax.

        In 2009 the scientist Gerhard Gerlich proved directly the “Falsification Of The Atmospheric CO2 Greenhouse Effects Within The Frame Of Physics“. Further confirmation of the CO2 warming hoax was obtained through thermodynamics and successfully finding a formula that works for both of the carbon dioxide atmospheres of Venus and Mars, as well as all the other planetary atmospheres. In 2011, Ned Nikolov & Karl Zeller introduced the “Unified Theory of Climate” which proved that the temperature relationship with the altitudinal changes of pressure, prove that the physical nature of the so-called Greenhouse Effect is in fact a Pressure-induced Thermal Inertia which is independent of the atmospheric chemical composition. Ned Nikolov spoke at the London Climate Change Conference on Thursday, 8th September 2016 about this. By early 2018, the scientist who had just proven that Climate Change is caused by Galactic Cosmic Rays regulating the Earth’s Cloud Albedo, Professor Henrik Svensmark, was invited to speak in the Committee rooms of the Houses of Parliament on Tuesday, March 13, 2018. In fact, for two hundred years, Astronomers from William Herschel onwards had known about correlations between Climate Change and Sun Spot numbers, this was followed by more accurate correlations with Solar Cycle Length and then finally, the Hale Magnetic Solar Cycle. By 2018 it had been established that these correlations are caused by the speed of the centre of the Sun relative to the centre of mass or barycentre of the Solar System, which determines the length of the solar cycles, or more importantly the 22 year, Hale Magnetic Solar Cycle. This in turn is caused by the orbits and masses of the Planets, short Hale Magnetic Solar Cycles have higher Solar Magnetic activity due to the increase in the speed of plasma within the Sun. Between 1913 and 1996, only one of eight Solar Cycles was longer than the mean Solar Cycle length of 11.04 years, the last of these was the shortest Solar Cycle for more than 200 years, the strength of the Suns magnetic field more than doubled, the cosmic ray flux fell by 11 percent and there was a 8.6 percent reduction in clouds. This caused alarmism about Global Warming which lead the United Nations to set up the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC), but this organisation was corrupted by environmentalism, politics, conflicts of interest and the corruption of the scientific method, as well as the fact that amongst the 40,000 delegates at the 2015 Paris Summit of the UN Convention on Climate Change, Climate Scientists did not dominate the debates that produced the agreement. This lead many Climate scientists to call for the IPCC to be disbanded as well as to set up the 2016 London Climate Change Conference, which was dominated by Causational Climate scientists such as Atmospheric Physicists, Solar Astronomers and Meteorologists. This also resulted in US President, Donald Trump, to end US funding for the IPCC in 2017, and to say that man-made Climate Change is a “Hoax”.


        • IsITaParadox says:

          Spoken to anyone in Greece, Japan, Portugal or California in the last couple of years?



          • Eddy Booth says:

            Overpopulation, urbanization and dopey immigrants having barbecues, might be the real cause

            They have always had stinking hot summers
            EG here’s a couple of Japanese movies from 1958 and 1949
            A couple of mins of either will show it


    • Richard Pinder says:

      The Flag of Trump’s territory in Oceania.



      • Up2snuff says:

        Thanks but no thanks.

        One reason I voted Leave on 23 June 2016 was to stop being incorporated into a flag which has lots of stars, without the express agreement of the whole nation and its Monarch in Parliament.

        Onward to freedom.

        Commonwealth*, I apologise for the UK turning away from you in 1972 and ever since. Let’s make up for that on 30 March 2019 and thereafter. Together in Independence and Freedom!

        [* I include ‘The Cousins’ in the Commonwealth here. 😉 ]


    • JosF says:

      Well the BBC litraly is the MInistry Of Truth, As George Orwell who worked at the BBC in the early 1942s used his time at the BBC for the inspiration for the Ministry Of Truth when writing 1984, certainly over the last 4 decades the BBC has time and time again shown itself to be the Ministry Of Truth.


  2. ScottishCalvin says:

    Happy weekend! (or at least it will be if a few more MPs finalise realise the true nature of the situation and write a letter to Graham Brady)

    Thoughts on the week:


  3. vlad says:

    Your diversity is our strength.



  4. Beeb Brother says:

    Five Live ‘news’ bulletin has an activist saying Trump is a misogynist and racist – how original. Name-calling/ad hominem attacks are the lowest form of ‘argument’ yet are all the left have.

    Is the misogyny based on those recorded comments about – shock, horror – women letting rich, powerful and famous men do what they want to them? Of course no man ever talks coarsely about women in private with other men. I met my mates for beers last night and we were all talking saucily about the barmaid’s large vocabulary and tight grasp of calculus. He actually clearly loves women.

    Is he racist because he does not want open borders? I do not know where the racist insult comes from. It is just the lefty’s standard insult for anyone they disagree with. He has got more black people jobs than Obama, and for all Obama’s bullshit about ‘yes we can’ when you are unemployed the reality for everything is ‘no you can’t.’ Unemployment is the most wretched, degrading situation and Trump is sorting that out.

    I am glad the protests have been a damp squib. As well as being dangerously wrong about almost everything the Left are just so uncool these days which is a huge problem for them. What a load of feckless, whining wankers on these ‘protests.’


    • Beeb Brother says:

      That blimp was the Left in microcosm: infantile, inefficient (it did not fly for long and was not allowed up where they wanted), wasting other people’s money and incapable of having a grown up discussion without resorting to insult and caricature. Did it cost £30k? Someone has made a killing there. It a massive own goal – a cringeworthy gesture which shows who the real babies are here.


    • Scroblene says:

      Well said Beeb!

      The ‘protests’ didn’t really go at all well at all did they!

      Snowflakes and sjws, back on holidays, and still as ineffective as they’ve always been, unless they’re smashing the place up, in which case they’re losers before they even start!


      • Beeb Brother says:

        Why cause all that hassle for the Police? They should be dealing with the theft, murder etc not a mass therapy session for emotionally incontinent chumps. They always complain the Police is underfunded, why cost them millions? If Trump has hurt your feelings can’t you have a little cry in your room, dig your garden or whatever it is you do for catharsis? I play table tennis – a much healthier and more mature way of dealing with my demons.As PJW says:

        “You bring your picnics and make a day of it, instagramming your placards. It’s one big sanctimonious, middle class, virtue signalling shit show.”


      • Beeb Brother says:

        I think the tide is really turning against these w**kers. The days when the BBC could incite mass movements are gone. Now whatever they call for is generally a sound barometer of what you should not do.


    • Richard Pinder says:

      I find the BBC’s posh left-wing middle class white people are racist against Jews, Russians, Americans and black people who do not support the white European Union supremacists, or other establishment elitists, such as those in the House of Lords. But most of all they hate working-class white people with white vans. From personal experience, I regard myself as a middle-class person, but both by Granddads were working class Grammar School boys, so I am not one of those posh middle-class morons who vote Labour.

      There were nice but dim posh people at University who wanted to play table tennis. I also remember a left-wing snob who expected to bet me at chess but looked rather upset at been beaten by a slob with a Yorkshire accent. But I do find that the left-wing snobs do like misogynists, but only if they lean towards terrorism and Islam.


      • JosF says:

        As a Sikh, ie a member of an ethnic minority I have been insulted when I tell people that I dont support the European Urinal and look forward to the day when the European Urinal falls apart as the European Urinal being a fundimentally flawed structure WILL fail. And that is before you try to tell the guardianistas, special snowflakes, beeboids and similar as to why the European Urinal will fail.


  5. Right Angle says:

    Wonderful trolling from President Trump at the press conference yesterday – turning round to PM May and saying, “Do you have fake news here in your country?” He also deliberately leans into the microphone and tells CNN’s Lord Jim Acosta (he behaves like he’s a lord or king) that he is not going to give Fake News CNN a question. Plus, he says to the MSM, “I am doing a great job – in case you hadn’t noticed.” Fun! (And if someone else has already mentioned all this on the earlier presidential thread, apologies, I am just seconding you!)

    It’s not only Americans who appreciate President Trump speaking up for them in support of national sovereignty, strong borders, and against illegal immigration. Here’s the Hungarian Foreign Minister, Peter Szijjarto, on how Trump has actually made it easier for leaders of smaller nations to stand firm:

    ““Saying ‘America First’ was a huge deliberation for patriotic forces in Europe. Because before President Trump had been elected, saying … ‘Hungary First’ was immediately stigmatized as ‘nationalist,’ even ‘fascist.’ Now, those who put critiques on us because of that are a little bit more careful.”

    “Saying ‘Hungary First’, your nation first, is such a refreshing feeling. So we like him saying ‘America First’,” Szijjártó said, addressing those in Europe who criticize Trump for his rhetoric.”


    And remember what the MSM said about him and North Korea? They treated such a serious matter like a football score – I even saw one headline that read something like North Korea 3, Trump 2. But now, guess what, Kim Jong Un has actually sent a thank-you letter to President Trump:

    So, cheers for POTUS from all right-thinking people!


    • bil says:

      England First! Feel better already.

      Actually I’ve been winding certain types up with my mantra for years: English first, British sometimes, European never.

      They do not like it up them!


    • Beeb Brother says:

      They just memory hole all these momentous achievements hoping instead we will just listen to some idiot from a crowd chanting ‘racist!’ over and over like an autistic toddler. Of course we are aware of all he is achieving and the MSM ignoring these momentous achievements only deepens our distrust and disgust at them.


    • Alicia Sinclair says:

      At least we have his new title.
      “His Excellency”. Maybe Trump should refuse to speak to anybody in the media unless they call him that at the start of every question.
      How the hell he lets the likes of Kuennsberg and Peston get a front row seat in beyond me. Let alone dare to talk to him, we know their personal views and they`ll never change. They`re lefties.


  6. Oldspeaker says:


    “February was the only month where there were more killings in London (18) than in New York (14): it was indeed a blip.”

    Using the ‘it could be worse’ school of thought Danny Shaw sweeps another problem under the BBC carpet. The comparison between New York and London is just smoke and mirrors, I’m sure that statistically contemporary London is a safer place to be than the Somme in 1916 but that doesn’t mean the current level of crime in the capital is acceptable.


    • Beeb Brother says:

      Yeah I remember a Guardian piece about all the violence at Notting Hill carnival where they likened it to ultra violent South American carnivals which made it ok. I loathe their low expectations.


    • Willy Eckerslyke says:

      Are you saying it wasn’t a “blip”, or what?

      Are you denying that the convergence is largely due to NY’s success in reducing killings? Something that has not been replicated elsewhere, like Chicago for instance?

      Any why doesn’t anyone around here want to talk about the murder rate on a per capita basis, taking into account places outside London like Glasgow and Manchester?

      Seems there’s only one set of acceptable opinions around here – not unlike the BBC. No wonder people drift away.



  7. Oldspeaker says:

    While I’m here a Vannesa Beeley interview about the white helmets can be heard at


    Very unlikely to appear on the BBC or Guardian anytime soon. Vannesa holds opinions which are likely at odds with many biased bbc’ers but is well worth hearing out. Don’t be put off by the Christian tag, it’s a preach free cast.


    • Banania says:

      All I got from that link was a few minutes of introduction. How do you get the whole broadcast?


  8. Beeb Brother says:

    Few protesters in Ayrshire where Trump is today – involves a bit of effort to get there, you see, and has none of the amenities of a capital city. There will be a ‘carnival of resistance’ in beautiful Edinburgh, however. The word ‘carnival’ is a bit of a giveaway as to what these ‘protests’ are really about: fun in the sun. Were an actual Hitleresque leader afoot I imagine people might bother to travel all the way to Ayrshire to confront him.


    • gb123 says:

      They ought to do what they do in Thailand when there is a big event such as an election. Close all the bars and prohibit alcohol. I wonder how many establishment would want a “carnival of resistance” then. How popular would the carnival be?


    • Up2snuff says:

      Beeb Bro, “Few protesters in Ayrshire where Trump is today”


      Ayrshire is far too pleasant to be spoiled like that. Snuffy has a very soft spot for Ayrshire and Dumfries & Galloway despite that area being far from the old ancestral lands and all that. In fact, I rather object to the ownership of Turnberry GC being in foreign hands. Quiet cough, cough.

      Ahem and move on.


      • BRISSLES says:

        It would serve them right North of the Border if Trump pulled the plug on his golf courses and puts another few hundred claiming benefits, – you don’t bite the hand that feeds you ! Lots of whingeing then.


        • Up2snuff says:

          Certainly, Brissles, and I have a suspicion that the Turnberry Club and associated facilities were perhaps not being run too efficiently and to their full potential.

          I suspect Donald Trump sorted that out, possibly at the cost of pricing locals out, but no doubt to the benefit of the local economy, long before he ran for President.

          It is a quiet location, has beautiful, much less busy areas to other parts of Scotland and some dramatic landscapes. It is well worth a holiday for UK residents and if you never been, make a point of it before too long. There’s enough in those three counties to take four or five holiday fortnights to cover and if you need some city life, Glasgow is not far away. Sadly, that is now without one of its best buildings.


  9. Oldspeaker says:

    And another thing, https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-44830392

    Nowhere in the analysis by Chris Page or the “who is Gerry Adams” section do I see the words hands, blood, dripping.


    • Rich says:

      And both the bBbc and Sky are allowing the assumption that Unionists and the Orange Order, and therefore the DUP, are connected to this, that this violence is in someway a response to the celebrations at the Twelfth, or even, as has been mentioned, as a response to a hard border. Bullshit.

      There has been scant mention by the bBc of shots being fired at the police, Protestant homes being petrol bombed and ‘viable devices’, a weaselly term used to downplay the threat of a bomb, also being aimed at the PSNI, incredibly attempting to bypass an ongoing and spiralling internal turf war in ‘Free Derry’ and the shit-filled vacuum that Adams helped create. It’s been reported on, but as usual it has been allowed to be seen as a response to provocation, desperate measures, not the violent sectarian violence that it is, hate filled bigots given legitimacy.

      Violence and attacks from Republicans on Republicans, not by Unionists or Loyalists, but by their own, for whom Gerry Adams and his murdering cohorts are not violent enough, who dissidents and the ‘New’ IRA believe have sold them out to ‘the Brits’, and who no longer have the power they once had.

      Conspiracy abounds at the bBBC however, strangers to honest and simple reporting. By allowing Unionist influence to be inferred the culturally significant Protestant Orange Order can be maligned, the traditionally conservative and pro-British DUP can be belittled yet again while their apparent bigotry is subtly pointed out, the DUP connections to and monies from the Govt and the illiberal moral dilemmas that this raises can be questioned, and finally the legitimacy of our Govt and Brexit being morally wrong, supported by bigots and racists, violent oppressors who have driven the oppressed to violence, must be discussed.

      The bBBC have been at this for years over here but is rarely revealed nationally and does nothing but highlight further how duplicitous and conniving, unrepresentative and unpatriotic they really are.


  10. Dover Sentry says:

    ‘Hate’ Placards at demos:

    ‘We Hate Trump’ is ok.

    ‘We Hate Obama’ is a ‘hate’ crime.


    • Beeb Brother says:

      Khan saying he values freedom of expression really is beyond parody when he has thousands arrested for thought – sorry ‘hate’ – crimes each year. He was complaining that Trump ‘singled him out.’ You are the f**king mayor – it is your job to be singled out!


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  12. fakenewswatcher says:

    The beeb admits it has an agenda: Mishal Hussein, interviewing Liam Fox on Toady this am, walked right into what turned out to be a ‘trap’, although not an intentional one.
    They accuse one another of following an agenda, in the Q&As and both accept that’s what they’re doing. For Dr Fox it’s legitimate: he is explaining what government agenda is. For Hussein it’s not: she admits that she doesn’t want information or elucidation, she wants government to follow the beeb’s agenda, which -in this case, as ever- is an anti-Trump and anti-government one.
    He does not want to serve her purpose: to follow up on several days of anti-Trump, anti-Tory narrative with more of the same. It is simply a good illustration of a simple fact: there is little ‘news’ on the beeb; what there is, is twisted to suit their agenda. It could simply be that old favourite: omission. This time, it’s not.
    Worth a listen: about 8.10am


    • Up2snuff says:

      Wasn’t that wonderful, fnw? If you ever needed confirmation that some achieve position through their looks, that was an example of why career advancement must be through merit, and merit alone. I was almost feeling sorry for the sliced and diced Mishal at the end.

      For those that didn’t hear the interview, the beautiful Mishal tried to ‘do a Cathy Newman’ on Liam Fox but as Miss Piggy would say “She just couldn’t cut it!”



    • Zelazek says:

      I heard that too, FNW. I thought it was one of the best interviews Liam Fox has done. He was on top of his brief and he stood up well to old Mishal.


      • Up2snuff says:

        Dr Fox was every kind, Z, to Mishal in Newman mode. He really could and probably should have skewered her on her ‘putting words in his mouth’ but he patiently explained the tariff situation.

        The BBC really have a massive problem in understanding tariffs. I’m sure Professor Minford has explained it to them more than once but it hasn’t sunk in yet.

        Either that or they DO understand and also remember the colossal tariffs and restrictions imposed by the EU on goods coming into the UK from outside the EU. They never seem to do investigations on that.

        I wonder why?


      • Guest Who says:

        Disgraceful BBC NA Slug Zurcher RTs disgraceful BBC local slug Cook trying to rally the faithful.


        • Dystopian says:

          “Took to the streets in their hundreds of thousands”

          How many? Did Diane Abbot count them?

          Or do they mean took to the streets WITH their hundreds and thousands to bake him a cake?


  13. Up2snuff says:

    A Labour(?) Party Spin Doctor, John (Jon?) Baldwin has written a book. Now, there’s a surprise.

    He’s invited on to the TODAY Prog for a bit of free advertising, BBC Charter notwithstanding, and some publicity. There’s another surprise.

    John Baldwin is advocating a ban on something. There’s yet another surprise.

    He wants there to be a ban on paid for political advertising on the Internet.

    Quite how you would bring that into being or police it is something Justin Webb doesn’t appear to question him on much, if at all. Webb, in pious mode, does ask Baldwin to repent of his past sins as a ‘Spin Doctor’ which Baldwin does in a brief, off-hand manner.

    In almost the same moment, Pope Baldwin absolves the BBC of their sins, in fact, the BBC are Totally Holy is the implication from Baldwin. Good job I wasn’t eating my SweetieWheeties at that point because I could have been involved in ‘a NHS moment’. Am surprised the two didn’t ‘mwah!’ ‘mwah!’ on air at the end it was so luvvy-dovey.

    The Internet scares the Alt-Left and the BBC.

    I wonder why?


  14. scribblingscribe says:


    Phew. The BBC has done its ‘fact checking’ on Sadiq Khan’s London having a bigger murder rate than New York, and you’ll never guess what, everything is just peachy-rosy.

    Apparently, it was only one month, February, when the peoples of London experienced a worse murder rate than New York.

    Before anyone gets out their bunting I should remind them of what The Times study actually said:

    “FBI data and studies by the late Eric Monkkonen, a researcher at the University of California, show that since 1800 London has had a murder rate per person of between half and a 20th of New York’s.”

    The Times was arguing that the murder rate in recent years in London has increased dramatically and was now close to or surpassed those of New York.

    BTW, and I have noticed this before. I searched for : “the times London more murders than New York”

    I was offered coverage by The Independent, Channel 4, The Guardian and the BBC before The Times.

    I have seen, before, how left wing new organisations get preference on Google. Troubling isn’t it.


    • Fedup2 says:


      I update this site on the latest Londonistan murders from time to time as they are too commonplace for al beeb to report unless it’s non white dead and white killer. Yesterday there were two ‘life threatening ‘ day light stabbings which I suppose is tip of a violent iceberg ( can icebergs be violent ).

      Anyway the New York comparison is a bit of a smoke screen because there would be a need to compare motives for killings as opposed to just numbers.

      One argument says there will be more crime because of more coppers – because more will be reported . But that’s a bit shallow imo.

      Decided to go cold turkey on al beeb whilst our President is here.

      Good luck to anyone marching for freedom today.


      • Zelazek says:

        I am dismayed at your levity on this topic, FU2, but I regret to inform you that icebergs can indeed be violent. Just think of the inquiries into the Titanic deaths. They found that no human being could be blamed. An iceberg was responsible. Icebergs can be as murderous as trucks. We generally underestimate inanimate objects and their malicious motives.


        • Fedup2 says:

          I have to be a bit flippant about Londonistan crime because as a resident twice in the last 2 years young men have been killed close enough to where I live for me to pass through the police tape when I went outside ( I didn’t do either by the way ) . I prefer black humour but in the future I will be deadly serious .

          I suppose people will keep coming to London as tourists because of the exchange rate . But I suppose many European cities have become third world chess pits very quickly .


          • Yasser Dasmibehbi says:

            When I travel I have always managed to stay clear of the “third world chess pits” you mention, Fed up. They sound like very boring places.


          • Fedup2 says:

            I know are serious person so I got another londonistan stabbing murder to add to the stats

            This time it is a 17 year old girl allegedly stabbed to death by a 21 chap called “ mr dada” sounds vibrant – source londonistan evening standard which must get the number to 90 against about 110 for the whole of last year .


  15. G says:

    As soon as you hear Treezer’s unchanged assertion that immigrants, have made a ‘fantastic contribution’ to the UK, any speech in which that expression is used, immediately calls into question the veracity of the speech in total. She lies fluently.
    I would hope that I’m not 180 degrees wrong as, with Treezers mentality: after all, she might be referring to the immigrants being constructively transforming the UK into an islamic caliphate and for her, that is to be welcomed.


  16. G.W.F. says:

    Looking forward to the BBC’s coverage of the Pro Trump demo and the Tommy Robinson demo today.
    I have been told – check me if I am wrong – that the cops have limited the pro-Trump demo to one hour and will issue dispersal orders to prevent it joining the Tommy Robinson demo.

    Keep an eye open as this would indicate the thinking behind the Home Secretary, Savid Javid , peace be upon him, and the rest of the establishment.


  17. G says:

    Well, well! Only to be expected. Do they think the public are stupid?
    My opinion for what its worth? Come what may, the UK has already agreed to open borders for N Ireland. Reason? Simples: we still need to allow in illegal immigrants to satisfy the agreement between Treezer and Merkel.


  18. AsISeeIt says:

    It requires a person to suffer a hightened form of virtue signalling sydrome for them to feel the need to protest a foreign elected leader from a wealthy western allied state with the rule of law. This is obvious.

    Given that a pseudo-religious urge to display virtue is present in these folks – what might be motivating them to pick Donald Trump as their Big Satan?

    I believe the BBC has nurtured and encouraged irrational hatred of Trump here in the UK. There are various reasons the BBC does this and should be blamed for the outcome of their propaganda.

    The overriding issue is of course that the BBC is still providing 70% of news, is market leader setting the trend for ITV and Sky and is still most trusted. One suspects it has an audience that it has increasingly self-seleced with its biases as parts of the audience not wanting those biases switch it off.

    i/ Anti-Americanism: The acceptable xenophobia. Let’s be honest, all groups need to feel some antipathy toward outsiders. That’s human nature. In these days of moral relativism and political correctness the only remaining suitable target for a BBC comedian (for instance) is the loud boasting dumb yank – does that charicature (which if applied to any other nationality under PC rules would be regarded as racist) remind you of anyone?

    ii/ Hob-nobbing with the Democrats. The Katty Kay/Soapy Sopel Problem. Despite the aforementioned syndrome everyone loves Americana in terms of the dollar pay rates, the culture, lifestyle and travel jollies, right? So BBC journos are heavily invested (as it were) in reporting about – and especially from – the good ol’ US of A. The problem is that our national broadcaster is so tightly embedded with Democrat-leaning news networks and fellow lefty journos out there. As visitors the BBC readily falls into the East Coast / West Coast distain for fly-over country and readily accepts the Democrat Party line on just about everything.

    iii/ The Leftist Cipher. By the way by cipher I mean a secret or disguised way of writing – in other words the BBC Leftists find a way to more fully express their political tendencies when talking about another country. Too blatant a bias about British home politics (no, don’t laugh) would evenually have the BBC falling foul of regulators and even our own wimpy conservatives – such as they are. But a journo can wear his leftism with pride when snarking about foreign conservatives.


  19. G.W.F. says:

    Given that the BBC are covering every utterance of Trump so closely one might think they have checked on this story from Reuters that one of his administration has lobbied the UK Ambassador over Tommy Robinson.



  20. Alex says:

    I do not recognise or belong in Britain anymore. I am ashamed at how the fake news media – i.e. bbc/sky/guardian/independent – disgraced the country along with the noisy, puerile, thick, brainwashed leftie scum many of whom couldn’t even articulate why they were protesting. I was trying to apologise and explain to American friends and commentators on facebook that these filth were just the noisy minority; but their response was, where were the counter protests? And I have to agree. Where were we? I am disgusted with how the perpetually offended protesting leftwing scum shamed us as usual and offended our American brethren. I am ashamed that the left have taken over this country and that the likes of Sadick Khanage is mayor. We’re too f****** polite to do anything in this sodding country now, more concerned with our mortgages, mowing the lawn and watching Love Island than rising up to oppose the far left destruction of Britain. And I include myself in this. I believe this country is finished until the time that violent revolution comes…. and come it will. And unreal, even as I f****** type a vile bbc propaganda piece is on focusing on ‘refugees’ in Amsterdam and how much they are contributing to the culture; twice the reporter has emphasised how Amsterdam is a city based on the ‘joys’ of immigration as if to remind us that western culture has grown from continual and unfettered immigration and open borders; one leftie geek in the piece even said that the country would be nothing without immigration. The bbc are disgusting propagandists! I wonder if these dogooders will be covering all the rapes happening across Europe? Nope as it doesn’t fit the narrative.


    • Fedup2 says:

      I posted here before about not being able to see or foresee big change coming . Perhaps it’s matter of looking for weaknesses – such as dependence on petrol for the car or the electricity supply . Lose both and what remains of civilisation soon breaks down

      Hard to see the circumstances but not impossible . Al beeb will blame away –


    • BRISSLES says:

      Sadly we have the rise of the ‘new Left’ , which comprise not of the ‘old style working class’ but trendy young middle classites who are in good jobs, have a mortgage and 2 dogs. I am seeing this in my own family. My parents were the antipathy of working class – Dad was a miner, and grew up in an atmosphere of Tory (business people) and Labour (the rest of us). Now we are living in an age where ‘poverty’ is not having the latest iPhone, not relying on Provident Cheques to have new clothes once a year as I did as a child. Younger members of my family are vocal about Corbyn, but its apparent they are being swept along because they’re equally ‘trendy’ friends they meet in the local wine/gin bars are of the same mindset. Me, their Aunty, is considered an ‘extreme right winger’ just because I am equally vocal when opposing their views. But its clear to me that, though not idiots, they are being led in their opinions because its the ‘in thing’ to do.


      • Up2snuff says:

        Brissles, my dear old thing (well, it is STILL the cricket season) the affluent middle, the monied and even the hUpper Clahhses were always the driver behind leftish/elitist/Leftist/Rightist/Marxist/revolutionary theory and, to an extent, practice.

        Melvin Bragg and his IOT mob discussed William Morris the other week. A perfect example.

        Everyone else was ‘experimented on’ for which, we are all meant to be suitably grateful. I am not. Just one careful look around the globe in the 20th century should be enough to convince anyone of the fact that liberalism, Leftism/and all -ist-suffixed theories have cause strife and poverty wherever they have set foot and seed.


    • Roland Deschain says:

      Where were we?



    • Richard Pinder says:

      I don’t mind. Londonistan is a foreign country like Iran, run by a Muslim ruler who hates America because Americans don’t like terrorists very much.

      I have been very successful in avoiding going through Londonistan. I have got trains from Doncaster that stop at Peterborough for connections to Ely, Cambridge and Norfolk. Others from Doncaster to Oxford and Southampton. And other trains that avoid Londonistan by going from Doncaster to Cheltenham and all the way to Penzance.

      I think that intelligent civilised people try to avoid Londonistan, Afghanistan, Pakistan or any other Stan. If I did go there, I probable would be arrested by the Londonistan police force, for protesting against the liberal elite.

      Also I just found out that my local Tory MP Graham Stuart, wrote a virtue signalling article about supporting democracy for Women. But only for the women who lived a hundred years ago. In the present day, he is known to have supported the antidemocratic remain cause, he is also known to support the antidemocratic House of Lords and now supports Theresa May’s fake Brexit. My sister reports someone in the pub talking about “the days of needing to fight for democracy, returning. The need for the downtrodden and disillusioned to rise and kill the liberal elitists who oppose democracy, have arrived“. I suppose that could mean that MP’s like Stuart could be safer if they didn’t hold any local surgeries in the future.


      • Lucy Pevensey says:

        It’s a bit difficult with trains because everything bottle-necks through London. Even going from South-East to South-West takes you through changes in London. I’ve tried to avoid it too but there have been times it’s been impossible without spending days traveling.


  21. StewGreen says:

    Investigative reporter Donna Laframboise’s latest piece invites us to think about Greenpeace stunts
    ..How they are normally widely reported
    ..but when they go wrong like when they were convicted of “causing irreparable damages in 2014” to the Nazca lines
    ..the reporting dropped off
    and the conviction was basically only reported in the Spanish language press/

    and also court systems are very lenient on Greenpeace’s lawbreaking
    .. only the leader was prosecuted ..got a large fine and a SUSPENDED prison sentence.


  22. StewGreen says:

    Saturday Morning 8:35am R4Today sneered at Trump opposing wind farms.
    The presenter first played an interview he’d done with Trump in 2014 where Trump states he thinks the SNP lost the referendum partially cos of their policies on Onshore and Offshore wind.
    The presenter laughed and then brought on Alex Salmond himself to laugh along.


    • Up2snuff says:

      Yet it was BBC TV, Stew, that I recall had a comedy programme called ‘Blott on the Landscape’ (based on the book by Tom Sharpe) which is exactly what onshore windfarms are or seascape for those planted in the sea to ruin holidays, marine & bird life.

      The BBC have no doubt forgotten that TV series. Either that or prefer to forget it.


  23. G says:

    From the 1st January 1973 when the UK joined, (wait for it) the “Common Market”, the EU in all of its earlier disguises, has been a total con on the public. A mere tool of the Globalist/NWO Order.
    Quite amazing that we were conned in the period up to 1973 going in and, if Treezer has her wicked way, the people will be again conned when coming, “out”(?) Has the public learned nothing?


  24. StewGreen says:

    BBC will be banging on I guess
    \\ Sir Lenny is now also Doctor Lenny after graduating with PhD
    … COMEDIAN SIR Lenny Henry has received a PhD in Media Arts from Royal Holloway //

    Admirable .. but I haven’t heard him say anything funny/entertaining for decades.

    \\ Henry’s thesis was titled: Does the Coach Have to be Black?
    The Sports Film, Screenwriting and Diversity: A Practice-Based Enquiry.

    In addition to his screenplay, Henry needed to do a critical analysis of how black and ethnic minority characters are treated in the sports film genre.
    He then completed a critical reflection study of the development process his screenplay underwent and how this illuminated questions of diversity within the film industry.
    He said: “After I completed my MA one of the tutors at Royal Holloway suggested I consider a PhD and once I had that idea in my head I was excited by it.//
    \\ He will be honoured with a celebratory broadcast on BBC One to coincide with his 60th birthday this year.//


    • G says:

      We would also appreciate a specified day a year in which we can annually celebrate Sir Lenny’s success in obtaining a PhD in “Media Arts” but that day should not coincide with the Stephen Lawrence/Grenfell day or any of the rest.


    • ToobiWan says:

      COMEDIAN SIR Lenny Henry
      This from the man who got his break and made his name culturally appropriating Michael Crawford’s character, Frank Spencer and his catchphrase, Oohh Betty!
      I wonder what he would have to say should a white comedian take the piss out of a black actor?
      Silly me, all current, so called comedians are achingly PC, right on, SJW leftards, so the situation would never arise!


    • Alicia Sinclair says:

      PhD in Media Arts from Royal Holloway!
      How many Persil box tops do you need to get THAT.
      Let`s hope the good people of Dudley take down that statue of Duncan Edwards and put Sir Lenward up on his plinth.
      Being a Doctor, he may now help us with NHS staff shortages.
      Or is he only one of those John Reid types?
      Will write my own degree for Worcester Poly now on Media Arts.
      Doreen Tipton-name just one of her kids, and you`ll get a degree.
      (And-either Tazer or Tangerine would have satisfied the examiners)


    • StewGreen says:

      BTW it’s only 3 months to last BBC tribute show to Lenny Henry and his roots
      Lenny Henry: The Commonwealth Kid


  25. Alex Feltham says:

    Something weird is going on with pro-Brexit MPs and ministers.

    David Davis was totally sidelined for 6 months and his ministry a sham but it still took the Chequer’s betrayal to push him over the edge!

    Boris Johnson called May’s deal ‘a big turd’ and signed it anyhow!

    The Mogg won’t even challenge May’s leadership!

    There has to be a reason for their passivity. Maybe it’s this: https://bit.ly/2mgpR8E


  26. vlad says:

    A man is charged with the murder of his baby and the beeb show a picture of… a street?

    His name is Rejwanul Islam. Oh, I see.

    Diversity is our strength.




    • Fedup2 says:

      What an excellent example of deceit through omission – surprising they named the monster .

      Wonder if we should have a ‘star’ system to grade al beeb bias/ propaganda …. just a thought .


  27. Dover Sentry says:

    “”The toddler died of a head injury on 5 March 2016 in Euston, according to a police statement.””


  28. G says:

    The insurgence continues apace:
    “June 2. A group of up to five “Asian” males drove over a teenage rugby player and beat him with a golf club in an incident police described as a hate crime. Police said Littleborough RUFC player Matthew Hayden, 17, suffered a fractured skull in the unprovoked attack in Rochdale. Littleborough RUFC said that a car in which Hayden was riding was rammed by another car. When Hayden got out of the car, another car struck him; he was then hit on the head with a golf club. The attackers shouted racial abuses during the assault, which is being treated as a hate crime. Detective Mark McDowall of Greater Manchester Police described the attack as “brutal,” “unprovoked” and leaving Hayden with “life-changing injuries.”
    A “Hate Crime”???? I’d go for Attempted Murder but, as “Hate Crime” the penalties are lower for our islamic friends.
    Needless to say, reported by the Manchester BBC. Any bets on whether the stasi will catch the perps?


  29. BRISSLES says:

    In the reporting of the welcome news of the rescued boys in Thailand, has anyone else noticed the hospital ward they are now ensconced in ? Well, I have, and wouldn’t I just like to be treated in those surroundings ! Absolutely spotless, pristine machinery, and the staff kitted out in their ‘whites’ would certainly give me confidence of a full recovery. Ok, it may not be the full picture of medical facilities in Thailand, but if that ward is typical then I’m on the first plane out if I ever need hospitalising !!


    • StewGreen says:

      Thailand is possibly a triple class country like a lot of them are
      – Poor Burmese immigrants are there as cheap labour
      – Then there is the Thai peasant class to work in shops etc.
      – And then there is the upper class of shop owners, dentists doctors etc. who live better than us, cos they exploit the lower classes and so can have house servants etc.
      Ethnic Chinese would say they work hard and deserve the success of private schools, private hospitals etc.
      I’m guessing the peasant class don’t get to use such hospitals normally.


      • BRISSLES says:

        Stew, thanks for the insight. It wont be long here though before its the norm that our peasant classes will not be using our hospital facilities, cos there are never any beds available !!!


      • Up2snuff says:

        I had the opportunity for several chats with a well-qualified nurse from the Philippines some years ago.

        In conversation she related how Governments there years before that decided to prioritise health and then education for all their people. Any overseas money they received, especially in aid, went into medical education & training and the health service. Then the next spending tranche went into education which is paid for at higher levels like the American college system.

        She had taken a job in our NHS because she could earn much more in our NHS than at home and could send the money home, not just to help feed, clothe & house poorer relatives but to go into her trust fund for her very young son. It will pay for his higher education.

        She only got home once every three years to see her son.

        The Health Service in the Philippines, once upon a time excellent and becoming one of the best in the world, had suffered from outward migration of staff, like her, to the UK and the USA.

        The BBC never make any programmes, as far as I know, about the damage done by the New Imperialism.

        I wonder why?


        • Dover Sentry says:

          Good phrase from Up2snuff. ‘The New Imperialism’.

          We strip the skills from impoverished countries to give our bosses profit, yet fail to provide employment for our youth.


  30. flake says:

    BBC Horizon about time travel compares Trump and Clinton to Hitler. You have to press play in iplayer, no autostart. It will start at 47:05 to 47:30

    Considering the suggestion, assassination, it seemed a bit more casual and normalised than it should be. Not sure why Clinton was mentioned maybe trying to be unbiased. Perhaps this was the second attempt at the shot: “your gonna have to say Clinton if you say Trump!” lol! “but we wanna keep the Trump assassination in there, and we got a graphic!”

    Remember, this is meant to be a science and edutainment program, so why the tainted political snipe?



  31. StewGreen says:

    Folkstone :
    libmob ‘ugh the film Zulu is racist and horrible and should not be used for this fundraising day’
    Ans : ‘No it’s not I was in t , it helped our tribe make progress, the filmakers respected us ..and look at the story the two sides are seen gaining respect for each other.’ .. says The leader of the Zulu nation who appeared alongside Michael Caine in the 1964 ( Chief Mangosuthu Buthelezi, 89,)
    \\ Even if the past is uncomfortable, and perhaps especially when the past is uncomfortable, it needs to be examined and unpacked rather than hidden away. //

    \\ Yet again we have a strident group taking offence on behalf of people who are not offended.//

    \\ the star of the film was actually Stanley Baker, whose idea the film was and who co-produced it with Cy Endfield //


    • crist says:

      I read that before they started the film crew and cast were told by the authorities that sleeping with local (ie black women) was strictly forbidden and would be punished with flogging, at which point Stanley Baker asked if they could arrange for both at the same time.
      I wonder if any of the self righteous leftist mob will dare call the chief a coconut, as they sometimes do in these cases when a black person speaks against the narrative?


      • Up2snuff says:

        c, “I wonder if any of the self righteous leftist mob will dare call the chief a coconut, as they sometimes do in these cases when a black person speaks against the narrative?”

        Hopefully, even at 89, the Chief might still manage to handle an assegai. I wonder if any of the self righteous leftist mob would ‘like it up ’em’?


  32. BRISSLES says:

    Thankfully there are still people living who are in a position to defend our history from idiots who are hell bent on destroying it – namely those who are mainly under 40.


    • crist says:

      I see this frequently at work, educated people with a decent job and in many cases a family, who for the most part are perfectly reasonable, yet mindlessly repeating arguments they’ve heard in the media without any thought whatsoever.
      I’ve challenged them on IRA terrorism (apparently not so bad as they used to give warnings) and Brexit (stupid people who voted in favour should not be allowed to vote). The latest nonsense has been to legalise marijuana but frankly unlike them I have work to do and I’ve got better things to do than try and talk sense into them. Interestingly they all talk and think the same way, even the token Tory, a particularly smug mealy mouthed chap who was once at a festival surrounded by his friends jeering and laughing at him, chanting Tory Boy, and it seemed he saw nothing unusual or wrong in this at all.


  33. G.W.F. says:

    A Tory with a sense of humour, blasted for Islamophobia for tweeting about a Sadiq Khan balloon with a pig. Apparently pigs are offensive to the Mayor and his kind.



    • flake says:

      It’s not even Islamophobia, it’s ridicule. It’s not racist, it’s not even an attack! But pussy politician whimps out and deletes it apologising all over the place like the spineless tools they are


  34. fakenewswatcher says:

    Speaking of South Africa: Andrew Harding reported on R4 this week (to my surprise) that the Zuma government had overseen the collapse (deliberate destruction) and looting of the South African Revenue Services. Unusual for the beeb…
    Their take was that, now that a new broom had been installed (Comrade Ramaphosa), there would be some cleaning up of the widespread corruption in the SA civil service.
    Anyone out there optimistic?


    • Sluff says:

      Spending time in the Eastern Cape earlier this year, our amiable and bright black driver drove past a dirt track and said she lived in the treeless, dusty, township at the far end.
      I did gently point out to her what a shame it was that after 25 years of ANC government, they could have supplied her community with a bit of tarmac.
      There was a small glimmer of realisation that she wondered whether her community had been had for years.


      • StewGreen says:

        in 1991 I’d sometimes go out to the Cape Flats shack townships.
        Yes they were shacks, but then you’d notice that inside they were smartish with ornaments on the sideboard and then notice than many had one or two cars outside.


  35. G.W.F. says:

    A man who ate a bacon sandwiche to lose an election now supports the incarceration of anti Islamic Tommy Robinson.



    • vlad says:

      “Oppose the Nazis and Tommy Robinson”. See what he’s doing there?

      Oppose the Marxist mass murderers and Ed Miliband!


    • BRISSLES says:

      I never understood the ‘bacon sandwich’ , surely as a Jew he is forbidden to eat any product from a pig.


  36. StewGreen says:

    So some people are getting laid off
    \\ BBC axes Daily Politics show as part of changes to political output, to save costs
    Press Association 2018 //
    will be replaced by Politics Live, which will air from Monday to Friday. four days a week by Jo and Andrew Neil will host a special extended programme on Wednesdays, to include PMQs.
    Sunday’s there will be a new BBC1 half-hour stand-alone regional Politics prog.
    (How can they say axed when it’s the same topic and presenters ?)


    • Alicia Sinclair says:

      Is ANYBODY listening to the liberal medias political guff anymore?
      Pestons been booted off, Dimblebys going, Daily Politics as you say too.
      Add that Newsnight is in single figures, Marrs had a stroke; and nobody ever watches or listens to Yesterday In Parliament or The Week In Westminster-and the picture is clear.
      Nobodys listening-we`ve all scooted off to Breitbart or Tucker Carlson, RT or Al Jaz for a laugh as well.
      The BBC need to be garrotted here-they have no purpose in political life, they`ve shown themselves to be unhinged liars. And most of us will only do the opposite of that they want.
      Just don`t see why WE pay for Owen Jones, Alibi, Polly or Campbell-why do we?


    • Up2snuff says:

      Does that mean John Labour Smith’s girl is out of a job? Was under the impression she was coming in to head it up – Daily Politics that is.


  37. StewGreen says:

    And the pay off bill rises
    Times exclusive: \\The BBC has doubled its spending on “golden goodbye” payouts in the past three years to almost £37 million, despite the director-general promising to tackle the problem//

    OK when you close departments, contract jobs out etc. you do make staff rendundant, yet the article make no mention of statutory redundancy.

    I hope money isn’t being wasted by paying off staff who are then redeployed like the Sunday Politics’ Sarah Smith with a weekday job on BBC Scotland.
    Or wasted on staff who are then simply rehired by other depts or contractors.
    Wonder if it’s all due to a cosy arrangement with unions ?


  38. Sluff says:

    As I write, the Nadal Djokovic semifinal is still going. Like tennis or not, the two semifinals have so far taken ten sets and eleven hours of play.
    For the same money, the women played for roughly a quater of that time.
    Equality? Don’t make me laugh.
    Equal pay, yes. But only for equal work with equal knowledge, skills, effort, and experience.


    • Roland Deschain says:

      And… that’s the women’s final over in, what, 1 hour 10 minutes? Still, if the men are happy with that state of affairs who are we to argue?


      • Up2snuff says:

        Oh dear, the German lass won. The BBC will not be happy. Serena Williams is very much their poster girl of the Wimbledon Fortnight.

        Did you know she had had a baby?


  39. StewGreen says:

    Indy : Tommy Robinson and pro-Trump marches prompt fears of violent clashes in London
    Previous far-right demonstration saw metal barriers and bottles thrown at officers *

    * No, that’s not a fair general characterisation
    99% peaceful, yet I suspect undercover agitators were there hoping to stir up some loons by initiating violence for NUJ cameras.


  40. smoogie7 says:

    Nothing on BBC South Today about Bournemouth Pride yet. I walked through it on the way home and as expected there where more straight people there and families with kids rather than those who identify as LGBT.

    Of the men there where a few Queens hanging around, a couple of firemen/ bodybuilders and the odd Owen Jones type of two and of the females there where the usual ‘butch’ woman with short pikey hair or a few girls with the ‘leftie’ looks, you know them when you see them!

    The event and mood seemed tame though with people enjoying themselves and a world away from the silliness at the anti Trump marches that Corbyn seems to have hijacked.

    This weekend’s events have seem to have diverted attention away from the Brexit shambles started by May (I hate having to use Corbyn’s words) and as I sad before, the door to Number 10 is left swinging open for Corbyn to sneak in. A new Tory PM is needed!


  41. StewGreen says:

    Terror watchdog Max Hill QC who once called for laws not to target Muslims shortlisted TOP to take over £204,000-a-year director of prosecutions job


    He supports suppressing reporting


    • StewGreen says:

      Mr Hill would succeed Alison Saunders, who steps down after a chequered tenure in the post.
      \\ The primary aim, and purpose, of a good DPP is to ensure that the prosecution code is implemented evenly and without compromise in adhering to its core principles.

      Saunders failed to achieve this miserably when she maintained an incompetent regime whereby the rights of individuals were sacrificed routinely seemingly because the nature of the offence, sexual crimes against women, justified a formulaic judicial incompetence that became her hallmark.

      In truth, the aberrant behaviour of police and CPS staff merited her dismissal and those of her CPS division heads responsible for the scandal.

      Whoever assumes control of the CPS must ensure the law is not broken again because of some biased administrative agenda.//


  42. StewGreen says:

    Why was Aaron Banks get called to Parliament ?
    Cos they thought they could score political points from pillorying him.
    But they don’t call the Oxfam boss


  43. Fedup2 says:

    A rough sleeper died close to their parliament ( its not mine ) and Corbyn and co shed crocodile tears and gave it the big one about many not few .

    Now breitbart reports the inquest . An african paedophile who had been deported twice and died of drug abuse . Apparently even had somewhere to stay but chose not too.

    If this is reported on al beeb great but I suspect not .

    I hope Corbyn paid for the funeral


    • smoogie7 says:

      Another cockup for Corbyn eh? He is still being quiet as the left are sitting on the edge of their seats wondering what is going on with Theresa May and if or when anyone will replace her. Of course Corbyn threw himself into the anti Trump stuff only for that to backfire when one of the major complaints was that Trump was rude to our PM. Had anyone else done that then Corbyn would have brought them a drink, or a house as seems to be policy


  44. Fedup2 says:

    I find the President Trump blimp offensive but I understand the need for free speech . Yet an mp has to apologise for a picture of the mayor of Londonistan with a pig – or similar – i haven’t seen it as I’m guessing twitter and google is suppressing it – one rule for one but a different rule for another .


    • G.W.F. says:


      Just seen a FB vid of a woman at the Pro Trump rally being threatened with arrest for carrying a Khan balloon where he appears to be straddling a pig. From what I saw she was not arrested because the crowd surged forward. Reports from the Tommy Robinson demo suggest it is large but a scary atmosphere with aggressive policing, horses etc and attempts to break the crowd up.
      Sod all on the BBC who have all gone to Scotland.


    • Lucy Pevensey says:




      • Up2snuff says:

        The Mayor of London was interviewed on TODAY today and he said he was OK with that because he believed in, and wanted to protect, free speech.


      • StewGreen says:

        A typical libmob bully tactic
        ..They goad you with something nasty like the Trump baby balloon
        … Then you react by doing something like a cartoon of a Sadiq balloon with a pig on top of it .. they then look to take offence
        and the shout “racist” technique is the one they choose.


        • G says:

          On that theme, Up2, apparently Pres. Trump has said, “……said Sadiq has done a bad job on terrorism..”. The Left run away with anything and embroider it so, it becomes: “….…Trump is saying that Sadiq is ‘responsible for terrorism’, says Labour’s shadow foreign secretary Emily Thornberry.” “…its islamaphobic…”. It appears a willing press is anxious to take up the issue and distort it out of all or any comparison – https://www.jihadwatch.org/2018/07/uk-labour-top-dogs-slam-trump-as-islamophobic-for-criticizing-sadiq-khan
          Reminds me of my childhood in the junior school playground. The little girls always took any titbit and reported it to teacher or a prefect. And Thornberry is an adult………………Or is she?


        • Dystopian says:

          Isn’t the ‘not eating bacon’ a religious belief?
          Religion has nothing to do with race .
          So how is it racist?


      • vlad says:

        You can be as offensive as you want to the white President of the US, our most important friend, ally and trading partner, but you can’t make jokes about our useless pipsqueak mayor. He’s muslim and brown, you see, therefore above criticism or mockery.


    • Grandpapopeye says:

      It is interesting that Sadiq Khan seemed to say in an interview that freedom of speech can not be curtailed because the target of the protest may be offended.


    • smoogie7 says:

      Yes let them have their freedom of speech but let us have ours as well.

      Most people I don’t think could care less about Trump or protesting and have better things to do. The left just want an excuse to riot


  45. Emmanuel Goldstein says:

    Just watching the free Tommy meeting on Facebook and Lord Pearson has started his speech.
    After a few minutes the sound went and the picture froze, comments still flying up the screen but a message ‘broadcast interrupted’ appearing at the top.
    The messages are all saying it is happening to them all over the world.

    A free speech meeting being censored/blocked thus stopping free speech.


    • Fedup2 says:

      Isn’t it great living in a free country ?
      Where can I find one ?


    • NameNotNumber says:

      Watching Ruptly coverage on youtube at 4.32 when screen blanked out immediately after mention of Sadiq Khan. Coverage not resumed yet.


      Try this link:


      • StewGreen says:

        Min 5:30 Raheem shouts “There can be no violence today, nit from us , not from the police..free TR” crowd cheer
        “if anyone provokes you, show restraint we are the good guys ”
        looks like many thousands there
        Vid mostly fine when Lord Pearson’s recorded message was played (he’s in hospital this week)


  46. Emmanuel Goldstein says:

    I’ve found another stream, live Tommy Robinson.

    The comments are literally from everywhere in the world.
    99.999999999999% or more fully supportive of our Tommy.


    Are you watching May?

    Please show it to our real leader, Trump.


  47. Guest Who says:

    The bbc bring up subscription. Which is brave.


    • cromwell says:

      i am so ashamed to be british this weekend. What President Trump must think of the people of this country is any ones guess. Yesterday the dregs of britain on the streets of London and today in Scotlant the haters are out in force. All egged on by the bbbc. i found the relentless one sided bias from them quite unbelievable . i do hope he realises that we dont all think like that. Oh i wish we had him here standing up for us and telling the EU where to stick it. If i was younger i would leave this country, it too late now for me but any younger person with a career should think about thier future here. Our once great country is being strangled by the lefty msm and all the elites who spread themselves around universities and goverment.
      i have complained to the bbc this afternoon about the non coverage of the pro trump march, not a peep all day just wall to wall Trump bashing from Scotland. Oh how i dislike the lefty bbc and its journalists and i have told them so. I dont think i will be buying another licence.i cannot bear to part with the money for such s**t,


      • kingkp says:

        Your country is gone. You have to accept that, many can’t bring themselves to accept it. The cultural marxists have won in the UK and in Europe. The US and Eastern Europe are now the last remaining bastions of freedom of speech, the rule of law and the repository of the west’s cultural heritage and scientific achievement.


    • Up2snuff says:

      GW, but the the BBC idea of subscription is that you still have to buy a Licence Fee but you can also buy BBC programmes on DVD or as downloads. That last bit is the subscription. 😉


  48. Roland Deschain says:

    Well, it was entirely predictable that Auntie would tut-tut over the attractive ladies that Russian cameramen noticed at the World Cup during lulls in proceedings.

    It’s the language itself that the BBC uses in the article that really gets my goat.

    It’s known as the “honey shot” – when a conventionally attractive woman is picked out of the crowd by cameras at a sporting event.

    A conventionally attractive woman. No-one talks like that. Except where all joy has been sucked out of the right-on bubble they live in.

    Anyway, what’s wrong with occasionally focusing on good looking ladies? Most of the game is spent focusing on 22 fit young men.


    • flake says:

      The ladies they think we should be looking at you can see at the local co-op.



  49. Payne by name says:


    It’s amazing isn’t it? I made a comment yesterday about how hypocritical the Beeb and MSM were for mocking Trump and his inauguration crowds and then doing the very same by over inflating the numbers that were out to protest him in London.

    And what do you know there is already the above meme doing the rounds on Facebook. The comments are the usual virtue signalling guff – plenty of noise about stupid idiotic Trump supporters yet not one of these bright sparks is able to see or acknowledge the staggering difference in zoom on the two shots.

    The one of the white house is taken about a mile away, whilst the one in London is from a 4th or 5th storey building right above the crowd. There’s probably only about 6 or 7,000 people in the shot in London yet these literally hate blinded imbeciles cannot see the difference in the two shots. What a perfect example of Trump haters desperately faking shit to push their narrative.

    I even had some loon yesterday moaning about how bad it was that Trump didn’t bow for the queen and Melania didn’t cursty. When I told them that they didn’t have to because Elizabeth wasn’t their queen they huffed off with a dramatic ‘I don’t want to talk about this’ – well don’t talk utter bollocks then!


    • RJ says:

      The photo of Trump’s inauguration was taken hours before the ceremony started. The crowd was still assembling – most of them hadn’t yet arrived.

      Classic Fake News.