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“In case you missed it” on the BBC:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7439131/Home-Office-ends-2-5m-contract-couple-paid-deradicalise-jihadi-brides.html
Home Office ends contract with couple paid £2.5m to deradicalise jihadi brides returning from Syria as the GP and her former cage fighter husband are accused of bullying and harassing firm’s low-paid staff
TUI was among those who benefited from the collapse of Islamic State in Syria and Iraq from 2016.
One former employee, who asked not to be named, alleged his hourly rate was slashed from £80 in early 2018 to £30 just two months later with no explanation.
That was despite TUI claiming £275 an hour from the Home Office for its services.
He said IPs usually met terror suspects and jihadi returnees in probation hostels or cafes and often helped them to fill in online job applications, rather than trying to alter their warped hatred of the West.
‘Most of the time, these people would not be allowed to log on to the internet themselves because of police or probation restrictions, so we would log on for them and watch as they filled in their job applications,’ he claimed. ‘But how is that deradicalising? That could be done by Jobcentre staff.’
TUI recruited IPs from a range of backgrounds and professions, including at least two former minicab drivers with no apparent previous experience or background in deradicalisation work. ‘There was one guy who could not even string a sentence together, and he was hired,’ said a former IP.
According to a source, the Home Office was told that at least one former theme park worker was taken on by TUI and then set to work deradicalising IS returnees.
The whistleblowers also alleged that Dr Misra and Mr Raja paid higher hourly rates to those who were devotees of a cleric called Sheikh Aleey Qadir who the couple followed.
And two former employees said Mr Raja was detained by police following an alleged leak of classified information held by TUI.
Over the past two years, TUI’s owners Dr Angela Misra, 34, and her husband Usman Raja, 42, received more than £2.5 million from the DDP budget.
In addition to allegations of ‘bullying and harassment’, former staff complained that their salaries were comparatively poor compared to the income enjoyed by the company’s husband and wife bosses who last year bought a five-bedroom home in Surrey for £1.2 million.
The BBC gleefully tells me that a new law has been passed that if ‘Boris’ doesn’t do what he is told will have him put in prison.
So I had a look at the parliamentary website and I find that no new law has been passed. There is a bill still with the House of Lords, waiting for them to do things to on Monday though.
Then I had a look at the bill. Although it provides a form of letter it isn’t very clear about actually sending it or how it is sent and certainly doesn’t set any penalties for not sending it. Surprisingly it assumes that the EU will agree to extending Article 50 to January, how do they know that that will happen?
Parliament in recent years has been very fond of passing ‘Canute’ legislation, i.e. ‘the air will be clean by 2019’ etc. and governments of all colours have been very good at not complying. “Sorry, I wrote the letter but my Jack Russell ate it”.
My point though is that what the BBC told me isn’t true. What a surprise.
They are parrotting Starmer who is still managing his balancing act (always one step removed, just in case) and beloved of The New European.
https://www.theneweuropean.co.uk/top-stories/the-left-s-best-hope-can-keir-starmer-save-labour-1-6254802
Robust? Dame Kier must be smoking something. A law that was pushed through with the aid of the squeaker making up the agenda of the day as he feels fit, a deal done so it was pushed through the retirement home for illiberal undemocrats and pronouncements that it doesn’t need royal consent. Yes Starmer it’s really robust.
‘It’s my personal policy’ seems akin to ‘views my own’. Not in a good way.
http://isthebbcbiased.blogspot.com/2019/09/today-hasnt-taken-collective-decision.html
Most seem well aware what Toenails’ ‘personal policies’ are.
Finger on the pulse, Nick, as ever.
I wake up this morning really sad. Yet again another day when we only hear one side of the story. The pro brexit arguments are never ever ever presented. Another day goes by reported as if there is now no-one who supports what we voted for. Crashing out this cliff edge that .. When they could be reporting on everything we have to gain. Sad that all this has even worn me down so I just want to turn the news off and forget it all live in a bubble at home and in the garden and concede defeat. This of course is what they want and has no doubt already happened to many. If only we could persuade fox news or someone similar to set up in the UK to present the other point of view on mainstream tv. Sad that whenever I go abroad particularly to places like Canada, I feel more at home and amongst my own kind than I do in what used to be my country. It always seems like I am entering a foreign land when I come home from holiday let alone turn on the TV.
You have summed it up perfectly.
Don’t be down, this just may take longer than you think! However I would say that in 2009 I moved out to Oz for 5 years to work, whilst the construction industry recovered from the GFC. Arriving back in 2014 I could see a sea change. An enormous influx of foreign nationals (mostly Eastern European) into construction, driven by the industry wanting to lower costs and EU nationals responding. I have nothing against Eastern Europeans coming here and working. Indeed the ones I dealt with on my return were polite and hard working individuals, albeit there was a bit of a language barrier!
However this quickly demonstrated to me that the Governments policy on immigration had failed and of course being an EU member entitles the free movement of individuals.
The impact of the Eastern Europeans (again no fault attributed to them, I would have done the same) is that it suppressed wages and also meant a lot of money going out of the UK to other Countries. It was a double, even treble whammy. Those coming here to work need support services etc, so overall become a burden, not a benefit to UK plc.
This practice example is why I voted Brexit, not to prevent EU nationals from living and working in the UK, but the UK having some degree of control.
However, if we don’t leave the EU, we will be back into a further cycle of the UK welfare state under significant strain due to lack of income to the UK Government.
Unfortunately if this happens, I am off, back to Oz where there are clearer controls in place and where they are not a vassal state to a regime that has got power ( and financially) hungry.
We will then have to go through another decade before the snowflakes of today realise the mistake they are making.
Brexiteerkent
As the voluntary moderator of this site and a devout hard core brexiteer I completely empathise with your comment . You are far from alone . So far there has only been muted responses to what the traitors are doing .
I’ve stopped taking the BBC – which makes my position here a bit difficult . I was thinking of giving up on the site because some were objecting to my comments – which I carefully crafted not to viewed as criminal offences .
Brexit was never going to be easy . Even the referendum campaign was just wall to wall media propaganda against leave – hard to remember now .
Perhaps we won’t succeed in getting out on this occasion . Maybe we have to wait until the fixed term general election to really say how we feel.
Notice I say ‘we’ – I don’t often do that because it’s presumptuous interpret how groups think . But for brexit I’m on safe ground – especially reading all the comments here every day as just a snapshot .
The current attempt is not over –
Rudd has finally gone ( see has a 700 majority )
The Brexit Party is offering an election pact .
Parliament is soon to be closed
And Boris might have something for us after 2 days with The Queen
Obviously none of this may come to anything and the traitors may manage to extend A50 again with a view to finally withdrawing it – their ultimate aim .
But to repeat – it may be a longer fight – and N.Farage has been at it since 1979. We ll get out – and then move on to other monsters – such as the BBC .
I’d appreciate a reply.
Oh yes – I think TR might be due out soon – if the state doesn’t kill him .
I suspect most of us here only live on scraps from the BBC now. The TV news has now been taken off our viewing schedule. Radio 4 went long ago. My main BBC contact is their tweets, as it’s short and sweet. Plus you can tell them what you think of them – it lowers the blood pressure a little.
In some ways, though, the fight has moved on from just the BBC. It’s widely regarded as impartial in the same way as John Bercow is so regarded these days. It’s the rest of the media which is proving equally venal and that’s reflected in many of the posts.
In respect to TR…unless he “has taken his own life” first! (Note: I certainly would not wish this on anyone, just in case I get done for something that is not PC!).
I am waiting with baited breathe for Plan B. As stated on a previous post, what happened last week would not have been wholly unexpected, it was what the traitors were indeed lining up! The fact the Bill subsequently went through the Lords unopposed would suggest there is another story…
I am not sure on the protocol and closing of Parliament as part of the proroguing process, but it would be great if Boris stood up and said firstly to the opposition, this is your last chance to have a democratic election. This will no doubt be voted down. He can then go on and say thank you very much, meet you back here later in October and you have now had TWO chances to go to the Country.
Finally, he could sign off by saying something like “Oh in passing, we have examined the Benn anti No Brexit Deal Act and have noted the following fatal flaws, which make it unenforceable…”, and then rattle off some key elements of the legislation that will not work.
Then just close his book, say goodbye and walk out.
That would be pretty impressive and it would send all the remain biased MPs, media and establishment into another foaming frenzy.
Of course, with Parliament prorogued, it does give him a clear run at the EU, with No Deal Brexit back on the table.
Here’s hoping!
Dominic Cummings is still in post 🙂
The Remainstream media would have you think that he has failed.
There are still many opportunities for the UK to Leave without a Deal on the 31st October.
As a welcome side show, the swamp is economically draining itself.
More to come!
Hi fed. I have been following your posts for a long time and you always have wise words to say. I agree re Rudd etc but of course her departure is presented as a ‘collapse’ of the conservatives and another example as to how “no-one now wants to leave”. I can see them all out on the streets cheering if Boris gets arrested. The forces against the 17.4 million are just too well set into the establishment. I hope I am wrong and you are right . Surely there would be a market for a less biased news channel .. Lots of viewers who would bring advertising revenue to such a channel. A missed money making opportunity for someone .. Or is the establishmant stopping them from trying. Well done and thank you for the hard work you put in to this website.
Brex
Thanks for your reply -notice – for what it’s worth – that you have 8 ‘likes ‘ by 0825 London time so people are noticing what you say .
Sometimes people turn up here – dump their view – and clear off without engaging in exchange of views . I guess that’s ok . It’s not trolling but a degree of ‘discussion ‘ for those with time -is useful .
I wrote a long piece here last night about BoJo being locked up as PM – together with the AG. I took it down as some people claim my views are extreme particularly as a voluntary moderator. So I am censoring myself on this site because of it . Ive been accused of being drunk , ill and extreme . It reminded me of inferior internet sites like twitter – which I only monitor .
My religion tells me to ‘ turn the other cheek ‘
Which isn’t easy …
Fed. Your voluntary moderation on this site makes it a safer and more pleasant place and most of us appreciate the effort you put into it. I can see where you are coming from. I once got called a ‘libtard’ by someone for the sin of putting up an amusing image all about the irony of it but got flamed for not providing context. That one thing really pissed me off, almost to the point of leaving this site forever. When I asked for the apology, I only got flamed more.
Anyway, I got over it eventually.
So. Keep it up Fed….
There’s something about the internet that makes people talk to each other in a way they wouldn’t face to face. Probably because it’s impersonal. We don’t know who we’re speaking to, even those we agree with. Recognising that, it’s best not to take snipes personally.
I try my best not to be rude, but by God it hasn’t been easy this week and I’m sure I’ve snapped on occasion when I shouldn’t. I prefer to mildly take the piss. Viciously if I think they deserve it and I can think of a good one. I’ve veered from optimism to despondency time and again. I suspect this week, when Parliament is prorogued, may give a clearer indication if Boris has an ace up his sleeve once MPs are too late to do anything about it.
Fedup, Volunteering your time and talent and then having to take near constant criticism and abuse is disheartening. Claire Booth Luce said it best. “No good deed goes unpunished”.
If you do step down you will be sorely missed. Not one of your detractors would consider volunteering their time nor would they handle the job with the dedication and patience that you have shown.
Please know that the majority of folks who value this site appreciate all you do.
I second that
Yes the liberal Globalist establishment is well entrenched and holds most of the levers of power and fighting hard and dirty to maintain their position. History tells us that to remove an establishment elite a revolution is often required. We are experiencing the first tentative steps down that road to a very British revolution. The big question is does Boris and his key cabinet colleagues have the guts to see it through? I think there is no doubt that if Boris can force a GE and he can convince Nigel that he is worthy of support, then a pro Brexit Parliament will be voted in by the people. The establishment know this and will do anything and everything to prevent it. But each Westminster game they play, each dirty trick they pull, each time they manipulate the law or parliamentary procedure , more and more people will vote for a Tory/ TBP alliance, if and its a big if, they are given the chance. Remoaners are playing with fire and will hopefully get burnt to a cinder.
Yes, a Tory Brexit party Alliance could likely win .. Will it ever happen or be allowed to happen .. The stuff of dreams ? Just maybe a reality ? We can only hope.
If there is no Tory/Brexit alliance, there will be a Labour dominated Labour/Lib Dem/SNP/Green soppy lefty alliance.
Half listening to Radio 4, as I often do because him indoors can’t cope with silence in the background, over the last few days I have heard several instances of Corbyn being pushed as the leader of an interim emergency government.
Is it possible for the slumbering electorate to be roused into taking on board how disastrous for the Country would be either scenario?
Is it not possible to introduce a law banning people from any kind of public office if they have shown themselves to have treacherous tendencies, if they would not pass a test to work for M15 or M16? Maybe i’m super naive and the Secret Services are already full of traitors.
I’m tending to avoid the news altogether and take refuge in drink.
But this is the opposite of what is required. Why is it mostly the supporters of soppy liberalism: the anti brexit, no borders, immigrants welcome, heavy state, that are willing to take to the streets?
Take heart. Eventually , and probably within the next year, there will be a GE . I think that sufficient people will have been roused to ensure that a Brexit Government is elected. Both the Tories and Labour MPs have shown themselves to be mainly made up of Globalist liberal lefties and anti Brexiteers. If Nigel can rouse the labour voters and Boris can secure the traditional Tory voter, then a new political alignment will take over from the old left v right. It will be national v global and national will win. Of course Boris will have to be very clear that he is unambiguously a nationalist , that he really does believe in Brexit etc. It may be too much for him but if he can do this the prize is waiting for him.
The Globalist are slowly but surely being forced to show their true colours as anti British and anti democrats. For those who were in the Tories it is all about big banks and corporations. For those in Labour and the Lib Dem’s it’s all about transferring wealth from the British people to the third world. They care I have more about third worlders than they do about their constituents and everyone is beginning to realise this.
I was a bit sceptical about Boris at first but he is sticking to his guns (so far)
The best thing is that the Conservative party is on its way to becoming the Conservative Party again.
All these wet lefties who should be in the libdems, greens or labour but joined The Tories as their only way to get into government are either getting booted out or spitting out their dummies and leaving.
There are still some to go but the crap is being gotten rid (Rudd) of.
The media think this is a bad thing and are overjoyed thinking the Tories are falling apart.
That feeling will last until the next election when a proper Tory party will be elected, perhaps with some TBP partners.
The lefty tumour is being cut out of the Tory party.
Boris, you’re doing great.
Don’t take any notice of the media, they are wrong.
Norm likes quoting people without using “quotes”
Groper Marr of course hosts Amber and John McPsycho for cozy chats on just how beastly Boris is.
One bit of good news to put the BBcs nose out of joint this morning, Serena William’s lost to the young girl. Even though she had her besti mate Megan flying over to cheer her on. Just a brief mention on BBC.
Surely she only lost because of racism? Couldn’t the BBC explore that angle?
Well said Cromwell. I touched on this last night although I didn’t make it obvious what I was talking about.
Al beeb will be beside themselves that Saint Serena of Compton did not win. Their poster girl of tennis is a racist bitch but much loved by those skinny latte sipping twats in Islington and St. John’s Wood!
Still, England’s men will possibly throw away The Ashes later which will send Al beeb and its minions into raptures!
If England put a one-armed black transsexual in to bat at number 11, then they might change their tune…. ????
Poster ‘girl’ ? (I’ll say this quietly, but I’ve always had my suspicions).
Funny how Meghan can fly to New York but can’t make it to Balmoral because Archie is too small.
Another one who should go
The following is a succinct ‘thread’ by Veterans for Britain:
Strategy used by Civil Service / Remainer ministers 2016 – 2019:
> join EU joint defence schemes
> con MPs by saying ‘it’s for industry’
> don’t tell them we’d be a rule-taker
> keep command link as a surprise for later
> make them think UK can ‘pick + choose’
> don’t name the others, just mention wider obligations
and maximum commitment under EU law
> that way we’re committed to join the others anyway
> backstop means N. Ireland is cut from the UK if we wriggle out
> downplay defence part of deal
> disguise EU policy under ‘UK strategy papers’
> find excuses for why UK industry loses to EU rules
> get industry on board, say they’re pushing for it
> in the deal, mention just 3 EU joint defence schemes
> just ones we said were ‘for industry’
> tell people it’s ‘continuity’ and ‘no change’
2019-2021:
> If exit deal fails, just put all this in a trade deal
> Say ‘without defence the trade deal fails’
On R4, BH has patched together a string of anti-Boris one – liners, to show how badly he’s losing, to kick off the programme. The first guest is the oh so predictable John Pienaar, member of the small clique of beeb ‘news’ ‘commentators’, who always strikes me as never having an original or new thing to say.
A little incestuous beeb ‘news’ group, forms again, this time around Paddy O’Connell, yet another predictable leftie, whose programme is usually sufficiently dull to allow for a little more Sunday sleep. In fact, the highlight of his programme is usually some odd sound, eg cowbells, mostly of a nature which will help you to drift off..
Oh, big ‘news’ – May sidekick, Amber Rudd has quit. Good riddance to both her and this programme, biased like all the other beeb stuff.
Off switch.
Is Amber Rudd from a ‘Leave’ Constituency?
Another seat ready and waiting for The Brexit Party .
The Lib Dem infiltrators are finally coming out of the Conservative woodwork .
Its gonna be a boost for BoJo’s popularity and Al Beeb don’t like it.
Or in the words of Corporal Jones “They don’t like it up em” !
😀
Given its Blatant Bias Al Beeb should form a political party.
Its funded by the Telly Tax Payers.
How would its votes go ?
What does Lord Adonis, Al Beeb and HS2 have in common ?
They could get Paul back.
“Fascists… fascists everywhere!”
Well, some more.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/stories-49584157
Will France say no to an Extension ?
Come on Al Beeb, follow it up …………..
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/brexit/9874014/france-deal-extension-remainer-mp/
The tide is about to turn?
Johnson is starting to reveal his next steps and with parliament soon to be prorogued would they now have enough time to counter him?
I read an interesting comment on the Express comment section yesterday:
‘One other thing, by the way, Cummings is a very big fan of game theory. Its a standard proposition in many formulations (also miIitary tactics) that you have to fIush out your opponents strategy. I think Benn & them planned this Bill to happen about a week/10 days before 31 October. Boris would then be absolutely cornered & have to comply. Thats why they prorogued – to force Grleve et al to show their hand. Cummings ALSO gets the remainer press very well. All of this stuff about him saying this or that is deliberate for the same reasons – remainers and their press and Iawyer proxies go cIucking around in print and social media about their next pIans and Cummings is watching it all. Note how not ONE Cabinet Minister has so much as whispered a briefing. All of this, like I say, has been perfectly sequenced.’
It seems that the media have put their foot in it. Running around declaring Johnson the loser while bigging up the remainers has given away their game plan allowing Johnson and Cummings to plan quietly in the background. The BBC are responsible for this as well.
The fools the lot of them!
Now sources are coming out that Johnson will challenge any law against him. It is not over yet!
smoogie,
“nullius in verba”……………..
BBC Online News:
“”Tories bid to depose Speaker Bercow after Commons revolt””
“”Berkow earlier this month told an audience at the Edinburgh festival fringe he would “fight with every breath in my body” to stop the government forcing through a no-deal Brexit by by-passing Parliament.””
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-49624334
Brekow has to go. He’s a BBC favourite.
The same BBC that has been and is fighting tooth and nail to stop Brexit.
DS “he would “fight with every breath in my body””
Solution, remove breath.
Careful. I know you don’t mean that seriously, but there are many who will look to make mischief for this site who will pretend they don’t.
“I joined your cabinet in good faith …”
No, your parents should have named you Red, Amber.
You are merely another lying cuckoo to be added to the long list of Manchurian Candidates who have infested the Conservative Party nest, since at least the time of the gay paedophile “bend over” sailor boy Heath.
Although fossilised resin from the palaeolithic semi-suits you and your Commie mates.
Quick look at BBC twitter, within 1 minute blood is boiling when I see James harringtons reply …..
I just despise these fanatical lefties. Still banging on about electoral fraud in the Leave campaign !!!!! Typical blinkered liberal , doesn’t give a toss that Remain campaign were also fined, not bothered about the voting fraud in Peterborough and doesn’t care about all the underhand dealings by Remainers . No, let’s just single out the Leave campaign !!!!!
There is quite simply no reasoning with his sort. Piers Morgan is right, the left have completely lost the plot.
Can we also have something on electoral fraud from the Labour Party?
Students voting four times?
It might be the time to watch again a wonderful reminder of different times; the current remoaners are wetting their pants over what Boris does next.. I love the General’s labrador!
Start at 3m.23s
https://youtu.be/2gc6uv3x91o?t=203
Integration and diversity….
Doing it for charity..
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I watched a bit of Casualty on BBC1 last night. A white man threw acid at someone and that victim was saved by a black doctor…. just like the total opposite of real life!
I was not alone in noticing the permanent anti-white attitude in the BBC reporting of a recent tennis match.
From the HYS
“14. Posted by Alucard
on 7 Sept 2019 22:09
Wow the bias on these pages towards Williams is vomit inducing. Just like Wimbledon, an over-hyped belief that she is guaranteed to win.
Can we have more on the brilliant display from a teenager please?
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Plenty more if you are interested.
Ha ha. Just had a look, some belters on there !!!!! Very anti BBC which is a joy to see !!!
French foreign minister Jean-Yves le Drian confirms that the French government will not agree to any extension whatsoever past October 31.
Over to you Messrs Grieve, Clarke, Major, Rudd, Gauke etc. etc. – since you so evidently believe yourselves to be clever and politically adroit….
I might feel compelled to add that it seems to put their plans ‘down le drian’ but that could be seen as far-right triumphalism.
Betane
Still nowt about it on Al Beeb yet ?
They’ll get round to it after the period of mourning required for the shock of Serena’s loss.
Beltane
I’m thinking the Remainers will have fixed it with our enemies for them to refuse an A50 extension unless certain promises are made – such as more bribes and guaranteeing certain post brexit rights for the EU and it’s citizens .
Remember this is a war – as shown by the double agents pretending to be Tories when in fact they are EU staff
Fedup2
“Remember this is a war – as shown by the double agents pretending to be Tories when in fact they are EU staff”
If it is war let’s hope that MI5 and GCHQ are working with our Prime Minister and are monitoring all the ‘traffic’ and moves going on to subvert this country’s bid for Freedom, Independence and democracy?
Taffman
It is a war – labour ex AGs are already openly discussing the prospect of Jailing the PM for contempt of parliament. They’ll probably do a Vicky Sharp on him and have him banged up in solitary at Belmarsh . ( it was she who sentenced TR- no appeal )
Such prosecutions must have the consent of the AG – appointed by BoJo – which could mean the AG as a cell mate for the PM.
The governing class has got that bad .
But does the bill force Boris to agree to any such promises? I don’t recall the precise wording, but don’t think it does, so Boris merely needs to say “non”.
I suppose that Gina Miller will be taking the French government to court to put them back on the right path.
Is the “impartial” Berco gonna boil when he get his marching orders ?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-49624334
I think Dancing Terry May blocked the poison dwarf’s peerage when she was booted out. I hope no one decides to change that decision – it was probably the only good one she made.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/9885912/john-bercow-quit-election-tories/
A Commons source said Mr Bercow has privately told staff he is will step down as Speaker at the next election.
But some suspect he is planning to stand as a pro-Remain Independent MP if the PM refuses to give him a seat in the Lords.
Such arrogance. ‘They’ have become far too accustomed to getting their own way.
NF on LBC just mentioned the recent article by Vernon Bogdanor (a Remainer)
Without an immediate election, the British people are being denied the opportunity of deciding whether or not they wish to leave the EU on October 31. But perhaps nothing better can be expected from the wretched and now unviable Parliament elected in 2017.
Sunday Telegraph paywall but you can read the article on pressreader.com.
Arch Remainer Amber Rudd leaves Boris’s cabinet, leaving Boris with one less wet in the Cabinet to undermine him.
However, Laura K would have us believe that this is a ‘massive blow’!
Why is it a blow, let alone a massive one? She has zero charisma, and was on a totally different page to Boris where Brexit is concerned.
Good riddance.
“I was not alone in noticing the permanent anti-white attitude in the BBC reporting of a recent tennis match.
From the HYS”
I think the BBC uses this strategy in other areas as well, LCS…
Anybody seen ‘The Loudest Voice’ on sky tv.
It’s about how Fox tv came about in the USA.
An interesting point they made at the beginning when making the pitch to start up the new Fox network was that EVERY other national tv media in the whole of the USA was left wing and half the Country had no one to speak up for them.
It sounds very much like the position we are in here.
All tv is wet lefty propaganda and the right has nobody.
There’s a fantastic opportunity for somebody to start up a tv network that isn’t left wing. Even a middle of the road unbiased one would be a welcome change.
I don’t know why Fox tv news channel stopped showing on sky but, if the left will allow it, (they control all the media), there’s at least 17.4 million just waiting for an honest, impartial tv channel to watch.
A right of centre channel would be even better.
Can you imagine it?
Honest, impartial news.
Losing Amber Rudd from your cabinet must be devastating.
It’s got to make us going for the full Brexit really tricky…
It’s a bit like losing the late Carry On star, Charles Hawtry from a Mr Universe contest.
However, I do wonder what Johnson was thinking when he gave her the job.
She’s an ultra Remainer and she can’t stand Boris.
She shouldn’t have been in office in the first place.
It’s on a par with Nigel giving a job to Anna Soubry.
Eugh…
True.
Some commenters on social media seem to assume I am a Tory Boris fan.
I am neither, but whoever serves best in the ‘politics of the least bad’ circus gets my support until they don’t.
Using the honoured cliche, if nothing else lessons may get learned about keeping friends close and enemies out of sight of Cabinet documents or foreign foes could be sinking in.
I am having trouble reconciling elected British representatives colluding with a foreign power to further its interests against that of the country.
And hope that when the time comes I still have a vote to express how I feel.
That gets honoured.
No doubt Rudd s resignation speech will be another opportunity for the ‘ people s alternative government ‘ to have a go at Boris .
Personally I wouldn’t even be present – she’ll fo one of those theatrical floor crossings and go sit with Soubry and the girls .
It seems that BoJo can close parliament from Monday . Please .
One thing that must be changed in the future is that those toerags that cross the floor don’t get to carry on. There must be an immediate By-election to allow the constituency to determine what they wish. No way in the future must these toadies be able to commit this action.
I’m betting Jeremy Hunt ( remember him?) will be the next traitor minister to resign . He still wants the top job so will disassociate himself . Another one for the liberal unDemocrats .
And good riddance to bad rubbish if he does. Another Tory wet that is far better suited in the party whose emblem is coloured yellow.
Off topic, but I’m a massive fan of cricket. I listen to TMS on the beeb radio as I won’t pay SLY TV subscriptions. Usually on in a regular expert summary slot is Geoff Boycott. It’s been noticeable in the last two matches how absent he has been. Replaced by the one eyed ‘Australia to win 5 nothing’ Glen McGrath and some droning female who’s a batter for England apparently.
I think perhaps Geoff is too old, too male and too pale, plus his views on Brexit will have marked his card I’m afraid.
As I’m typing this I am listening to Geoffrey Boycott on TMS.
Piku by name Piku by nature? …………………..
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piku
Good for you Piku.
I’ve listened across the match. He has been on just the once today and about three times in total across the whole match. Whereas Ebony Raining Brent gets two stints every session.
That’s probably because of his other media commitments rather than some weird conspiracy theory.
It wasn’t so long ago that we were told it’s better to be part of a reformed eu and that we should stay in and change it as a member.
Why don’t the likes of Rudd, Lee and Johnson (minor) take their own advice and stay in the Tory party and reform it from within.
Oh, I know why.
It’s because they will not be able to change the party from within and they know that.
Just like they knew we couldn’t change the eu from within but we’re perfectly happy to lie to us about it.
I think this is a major error. I’d love to see the back of this iniquitous tax, but that is far down the pecking order from Brexit. It will not impress the Labour-supporting leavers in the north and we need to hold this coalition together.
Income tax is by far the most unpopular tax in the UK – introduced as a temporary measure by Pitt to help pay for the Napoleonic wars – and its collectors, HMRC are by far the rudest, disorganised and tyrannical of any of the ‘civil’ service.
The fact that my ex, late and comprehensively unlamented mother-in-law was a tax officer is purely coincidental – although it does much to confirm the reality.
Yes and no.
True, most nobs in Notting Hill have finance guys to deal with such things, and are unlikely to vote TBP anyway.
However there are many in the working stiff community who do tuck a bit away for the kids, and funding Amber, Jez, Jess, or Dominic’s pensions via a tax on this may not be over popular.
I always have problems finding Delingpole podcast links
either they are Apple versions
or they force you to download an App
.. I found this link
https://player.fm/series/the-delingpod-the-james-delingpole-podcast/delingpole-29-dr-rex-fleming
You can get an mp3 file by right-clicking and selecting download link.
Rex Fleming he claimed to be the first to prove in a paper that Catastrophic Carbon dioxide CC is false, saying that at high altitude the CO2 molecules don’t reflect much heat as they do at low level.
He was OK but not as impressive as Bob Carter
Another recent Delingpole podcast is with Andy Ngo
He wouldn’t talk like a rightie like Dellers wanted him to.
Like he said victims should be believed like Owen Jones.
– He spoke about been beaten into a brain haemorrhage by Portland Antifa
– How there is a double standard in that the police just ignored the violence and don’t seem inclined to investigate ..like one of his attackers has been identified but not arrested or anything.
and there is heaps of video
– Said that Portland is not diverse , it’s almost all white, so the anger is coming from *white guilt* rather than true support for minorities.
He described them as being clever with word games, words not meaning what you expect.
He said that violence is part of their system as they believe that is how to cause the revolution that will overthrow the capitalist
state cos they are anarcho-communists and although Democrats won’t call them out, Antifa are not liberal but rather want to overthrow both Democrats and Republicans
– He then said the Proudboys were more of a working class drinking group,
… some of whom are up for a fight, that they are not fascists.
– However speaking on Charlottesville he said that was an extreme right rally, and that many soft right had stayed away, so it was just a few white supremacists
(AFAIK that’s not true and it was more mainstream right, with some white supremacists tacked on
and that you get things like agitators getting people to sing antisemitic songs)
Ngo said it was a failure of policing that failed to keep the 2 groups apart.. And that incited the guy to drive a the antifa later.
– On Trump he said that the “liberals” just routinely misquote him to play to their own crowd.
https://player.fm/series/the-delingpod-the-james-delingpole-podcast/delingpod-34-andy-ngo
Pug,
See thread on Reddit Posted by u/BethRigby
The MailOnline table doesn’t show all the results
The survey was taken on 30 August
On the the idea that BBCnews puts out bunk
and then BBC More or Less corrects it, as they deal with facts.
The point is BBC news is like a shouting choir continually putting out narrative
.. It’s a loud propaganda operation.
Whereas you have to seek out progs like More or Less, so it has only 1% of the impact.
There is #1 fact, there is #2 narrative, and #3 things we don’t know.
Narrative is a simplistic and often false maze template of the real world.
As it tells us things like Father Christmas brings presents and storks bring babies.
Just as a rat dreams of mazes if they are made to practice them beforehand, and afterward can deal better with real mazes.
I believe human beings form maze templates when they are dreaming
However if they are fed false narrative by media it’s GIGO
and you get maze templates that say “if a person is not a wooly liberal, they must be a fascist”
Such grand-narratives are the dogma of organised religion, Marxism, GreenDream religion etc.
In real life you should be exploring the full maze of a topic, not just applying an old maze-template from something else.
I can read a BBC headline and know exactly what they’re going to say.
When will Al Beeb start calling The Tories and The Brexit Party – “Fascists”?
taffman – don’t tempt them!
Talking Brexit (this post also does appear to a reply above).
I am waiting with baited breathe for Plan B. As stated on a previous post, what happened last week with the anti No Brexit Bill would not have been wholly unexpected, it was what the traitors were indeed lining up and it was expected to pass through Parliament!
The fact the Bill subsequently went through the Lords unopposed (after 100 amendments were withdrawn) would suggest there is another story…
I am not sure on the protocol and closing of Parliament as part of the proroguing process, but it would be great if Boris stood up and said firstly to the opposition, this is your last chance to have a democratic election. This will no doubt be voted down. He can then go on and say thank you very much, I am now proroguing Parliament meet you back here later in October and don’t forget you have now had TWO chances to go to the Country for a democratic vote.
Finally, he could sign off by saying something like “Oh in passing, we have examined the Benn anti No Brexit Deal Act and have noted the following fatal flaws, which make it unenforceable…”, and then rattle off some key elements of the legislation that will not work and cannot be enforced.
Then just close his book, say goodbye and walk out.
That would be pretty impressive and it would send all the remain biased MPs, media and establishment into another foaming frenzy.
Of course, with Parliament prorogued, it does give him a clear run at the EU, with No Deal Brexit back on the table allowing some decent negotiating to go on!
Here’s hoping!
Sky dropped showing Fox TV on UK channels during 2016 when the UK govt were delaying giving News Corp greater control over SKY TV citing the sexual harassment charges over Ailes and O’Reilly as a reason to question whether News Corp were a fit and proper corporation to be able to take a bigger stake in the UK TV market .
The useless Karen Bradley was the Culture secretary at the time and one suspects her civil servants at the Dept of Media wanted to get Fox TV banned and succeeded .
Fox TV was good during the Tea Party era (2009- 2011) but went downhill afterwards .No idea what it is like since it has been removed from UK tv
I still get the US version. It’s got some sound folks on it such a Tucker Carlson, Sean Hannity, Laura Ingraham , Levin but it also has some anti Trumpers . But it is certainly better than the leftist drivel out of CNN, MSNBC, NYT, WP , BBC , Sky UK, CH 4 . Interestingly though Sky Australia is pretty sound and very different to Sky UK.
I only seem to get YouTube clips – is there a way to get it live?
MSM always has an agenda, even in the midst of suffering
Why few from the Bahamas government feature in the BBC disaster reports.
The BBC seem to have ignored the fact that they are nowhere to be found?
I think the NYT angle is that the Bahamas is a tax haven
It wont be long now before we see Weatherspons becoming the subject of Al Beeb’s hate .
“Amber Rudd quits cabinet blaming Brexit inaction”
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-49623737
The cabinet Is Not inactive in carrying out the wishes of 17.4m leave voters. Thats something all of Parliament promised to do and failed to do so far.
Parliament is only interested in the status quo – Keeping Great Britain in The EU.
Al Beeb is anti-democracy and anti-Brexit and some of you posters pay for it.
I wonder if the racist far-left bbc swamp rats are now having to live in some kind of ghetto?
I can’t imagine them mingling with us plebs, and I don’t think they have done so for several decades.
But in light of the increasing numbers of us who actively despise them, I wonder if they are now too frightened to step out into the real world?
Yes, the ghetto for the BBC amoeboid community is called the London suberbs, and they don’t need the real world – London is enough for them. You see they have easy access to the continent that most of the country do not have, via the tunnel, or a short flight. And so Paris is almost seen as the City next door. Little wonder they are fighting tooth and claw to maintain the easy access. I’ve seen such false indignation from the little selfish idiots.
Got to laugh – Catherine McKenna said in one recent incident a man in a car pulled up alongside her and her children, swore and called her a “climate Barbie”.
Oh diddums !!! Now gets extra security.
Strange old game, throw milkshake at Tommy Robinson, throw milkshake at Nigel Farage, Jo Brand tells people to throw acid instead of milkshake , Lammy tells us he would throw whatever he could at white supremacist s and John McDonnell tells his followers to harass any right sided politician and make sure they don’t feel safe anywhere ……but, call a climate change do gooder a climate Barbie and it’s extra security and news on the bbc .
Agenda ? Never.
Some here are suggesting that Boris has a trick card up his sleeve and will play that at an appropriate time. I do really hope so but, alas, the reality may well be something totally different. Anyway, please consider that if he has some ingenious plan to play, plan B, when and if he plays it, it will surely wind up the opposition to a frenzy they have never displayed before. That’s the dangerous point for all Leavers. Imagine if ‘they’ give their friends in Antifa even more licence to break the law than they ever enjoyed before, what will happen?
Just saying………………
With reference to the weatherspoons comment earlier – Did you not see that little blonde on skye yesterday having a real go at him – Tim Martin – What are they on these young women – the bile coming out of them…..
G
Off topic, but, based on comments you made a while ago about a book on Cultural Marxism called The Red Trojan Horse, I decided to buy it and have just finished reading it. I would like to thank you for recommending it and would encourage anyone interested in understanding how we have got to being on the verge of the disintegration of our finest values to read it too.
Usually the bbc is not keen on teasing, unless of course the BBC approves.
Blimey, McGrath, Rowlatt, Shuckman, Harrabin and the new girl plus even the political wonks will be all over this surely?
https://notalotofpeopleknowthat.wordpress.com/2019/09/08/puffins-starve-as-danes-grab-uk-sand-eels/
Or… not.
What did the Rudd actually do in a positive way as Pensions Secretary – She spent most of her time resigning in one way or another – She was useless. Why did Boris offer a place in the cabinet – not on competence grounds that’s for sure. Was it just to make up the female contingent?
What have we come to when we think gender balance is more important than merit.
Surely you feminist facists out their do not want to be employed because you are female – how patronising is that. Earn your place like everyone else.
Perhaps with his sense of humour Boris appointed her in the hope of sharing a taxi after a late night sitting.
This Corbyn?
https://twitter.com/EllieHarleyand/status/1170314163442409472?s=20