Midweek Thread 11 September 2019

Another anniversary of that World Changing day.RIP
Meanwhile it’s 33 days until Parliament returns and 51 days until the UK leaves the EU .

Will the biased Far Left BBC continue to fight brexit ? will it go into collective mourning if it looks like we are really going ? Will more so called journalists lose the plot ?

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555 Responses to Midweek Thread 11 September 2019

  1. andyjsnape says:

    Couldn’t make it up, the eu.bc does a report on dividing. They are the experts in divide! trying to divide the UK population over the last 3yrs since the referendum

    Brexit: Is Boris Johnson profiting from dividing?

    Thanks Laura for your point, certainly isn’t mine

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  2. taffman says:

    “The Welsh Government’s place at one of the world’s biggest arms fairs is to be reviewed, the first minister has said. ”
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-49680566
    How out of touch the Welsh Assembly is with the workers in Wales .
    We need jobs not virtue signalling.
    Get rid of the totally useless white elephant -The Assembly. Then spend the money saved on Health and Education in Wales.

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  3. taffman says:

    “MPs must be recalled after Scottish ruling, Welsh opposition MPs say”
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-49660958
    Message to Welsh MPs, Wales voted “Leave”.
    We want Out ! Or you will be out .
    Here is one MP that has got the message ……………………..
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-49665710

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  4. theisland says:

    Have the bBC reported this?
    (Apologies if already posted here)

    From The Times yesterday (paywall) but you can read here. Possibly just more double deception?
    https://westlancashirerecord.com/2019/09/12/eu-officials-regret-getting-into-bed-with-remainers/

    “European Union officials and diplomats are “tearing their hair out” at the twists and turns of Labour’s “mad” Brexit policy and regret past tactical alliances with Remain campaigners.

    “The source expressed regrets that links with Starmer, the shadow Brexit secretary, had helped shape Labour tactics that backfired by contributing to three defeats for Theresa May’s withdrawal agreement. There is growing belief among officials that hardline Remain supporters, such as Starmer, have helped create a political crisis that has rebounded on the EU by unravelling the deal.

    “Officials regret not cultivating other Labour MPs who support a withdrawal agreement to avoid alienating their party’s voters who backed Leave in northern and Welsh constituencies by campaigning to reverse Brexit. “It would have been better to talk to sensible MPs like Stephen Kinnock or Lisa Nandy who want an agreement” said the source.

    “More widely, European governments now believe that it has been a mistake to back Remainers such as Blair and Mandelson, who have links in Brussels and Paris, in their efforts to use delays to the Brexit deadline to keep Britain inside the EU.

    The EU are keen on ‘May’s’ treaty, which we know is Remain ++
    The Kinnock’s (EU+++) agree.
    Don’t even think about it BoJo!

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  5. Guest Who says:

    BBC News

    Experts predict bushfires in Australia this season will be hotter and more intense than normal – but what’s behind this?

    bbc.in/34ysdV4

    ***
    There ‘could’ be more possibly, but quite how the heat and intensity increases escapes me. But I am not an expert.

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    • Yasser Dasmibehbi says:

      Dryness has a lot to do with bushfires. I was in Northern Queensland two weeks ago just about to go on a hike on a long bush track when a ranger came roaring along in his Landrover and closed the track. He told me there was a bushfire along it somewhere and no one was allowed in. That surprised me as the temperatures for the previous couple of weeks and on that day were somewhat lower than I had expected for the tropics.
      But the ground was certainly dry.
      It was a shame about the Binna Burra lodge in south Queensland being destroyed though as it was a great spot to stay.

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  6. taffman says:

    “Brexit: John Bercow pledges ‘creativity’ to stop no-deal”
    Yes , he does know a lot about “creativity”.

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    • fakenewswatcher says:

      taffman- this puffed-up, self -important little creep is probably having withdrawal symptoms and needs to stand in front of a mirror shouting at himself, waving his arms about, Must be hell for his neighbours.
      Maybe they could use him in Argentina, or somewhere, on traffic patrol duties. At a busy intersection, say…

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  7. LastChanceSaloon says:

    [Text in square brackets [] is mine. Text in curly brackets {} is from the current Bindel ExtremeLeftypedia article.]
    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/sep/12/rape-decriminalised-vulnerable-women-convictions-cps
    Thu 12 Sep 2019 17.22 BST
    Guardian Opinion Rape and sexual assault

    Rape is becoming decriminalised. It is a shocking betrayal of vulnerable women
    Julie Bindel

    Reported rapes have doubled in a year, yet prosecutions are at their lowest level for a decade.
    The CPS must be held to account

    Julie Bindel is a journalist and political activist, and a founder of Justice for Women

    {“Julie Bindel is a Lesbian”

    “Attention all men in West Yorkshire, there is a serial killer on the loose in the area.
    Out of consideration for the safety of women, please ensure you are indoors by 8pm each evening,
    so that women can go about their business without the fear you may provoke”}

    [ I share the concerns of the author, regarding sexual attacks on women.
    But this is the “Facts are sacred” Guardian.
    A “newspaper” which supports the extreme left Marxist Labour Party.
    The Marxists who killed approximately 100 million people and whose bloodlust in unsatiated.
    A “newspaper” which approves of other “social engineering” projects.
    EG – Muslims imported by Tony Blair to vote Labour.
    EG – Muslims now multiple postal voting with the knowledge of the Labour Party

    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/labour-conspiracy-let-in-36m-to-create-multicultural-britain-92p5750cltj
    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-order/6418456/Labour-wanted-mass-immigration-to-make-UK-more-multicultural-says-former-adviser.html

    Since you extreme left wing queers have very “flexible” memories (ignore anything inconvenient, then attempt to obliterate it from recorded history), let me remind you of events as “reported” in the “Guardian” several years ago.

    1. The Rotherham racist mass Muslim paedophile rapes report was published.
    2. The Guardian, and the rest of the “National” press had known about this for years. The news was supressed, ie the press was complicit in the mass rapes, which encouraged more rapes, which are still happening.
    3. The initial Guardian reaction was silence.
    4. The first Guardian acknowledgement of the report was to chide other newspapers for publicising the Rotherham report.
    5. The second Guardian action was to blame Nick Griffin (a well known Nazi) for exposing the mass rapes years earlier.
    The same Griffin which you Communists had arrested and tried on spurious non evidence.
    You are still doing this. Tommy Robinson jailed by kangaroo courts in the hope that he will be murdered in jail for publicising rapes which you claim to be concerned about.
    6. The third Guardian tactic was to publish a series of exculpatory articles minimising the mass rapes. Blaming the press, the parents, the raped children, anybody except the rapists. This tactic was flawed by allowing comments on the Guardian Humpty Dumpty use of the facts.
    So biased, vile and disgusting were these Guardian articles (mainly by women btw) that regular BTL commentators (who to this day still want all leave voters burnt at the stake) complained.

    Julie, you are a Nobel Prize standard hypocrite. Only the danger from breaking glass stops me from telling you to look in a mirror.

    No comments allowed.]

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  8. Up2snuff says:

    Fed asks in his header to this Thread: “Will more so called journalists lose the plot ?”

    TOADY Watch #1 – Way above their pay grade presumption

    Katya Adler is negotiating on Brexit. The Humph asks her “What message are you going to take back Brussels?” Sammy Wilson had been the prime Interview slot at 8.10am. He was sidelined when our Katya was brought on. She is more important. Very important. More important than the Government’s EU negotiator. More important than the PM, perhaps?

    Who knew?

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  9. Doobster78 says:

    The BBC way ….

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    • LastChanceSaloon says:

      D78
      The magic money tree employment agency.
      Based in Venezuela.
      Funded by the EU, with mile long banknotes featuring many Zer0000000000000000000es.

         18 likes

    • Guest Who says:

      Looking at her, I’ll bet.

      #backendofbusism is the real scourge in the media industry.

         9 likes

    • john in cheshire says:

      Could this be a great way to get rid of people?

      Mr Lineker: I want £1.75 million in salary
      Boss: sorry, we can’t afford you. And it’s not negotiable, bye

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  10. Guest Who says:

    Good question.

       35 likes

  11. Doobster78 says:

    Part and parcel i’m afraid …. how many is that now Fed ?

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  12. Fedup2 says:

    Not BBC but Brexit .

    The Supreme Court ( still get that Diana Ross image ) is due to kick off with its deliberations on the prorogue issue next Tuesday .

    But an issue which it does seem to have to adjudicate on is the ‘ Surrender Act’ against the original act exiting on 31 October . That it whether the latter trumps the former because it is an international treaty against domestic law .

    I’m only an armchair lawyer but I think the treaty one wins . It could well be that Soros’ mouthpiece – Gina – will be going legal again after the Lords has decided the Tuesday case .

    My home is very quiet without the Toady noise in the background . You can get used to anything .

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    • JamesArthur says:

      FedUp
      I looked into this as an armchair lawyer and it would seem it does – in fact is as far as I can see grounds for Brexiteers to seek a judicial review of the legality of the stop no deal Brexit as is goes against an existing law which is also a European law…or something like this.

      Why has nobody from the Brexit side done a Gina? Is it cos we don’t have friends in high places and bottomless pockets?

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      • smoogie7 says:

        A new and rather desperate tactic is now getting judges to sign the ‘surrender bill’

        Now I am not being funny but can I recommend that we vote in our own judges?

        Forget politicians it is all about judges now and judges need to form their own parties.

        No doubt that the BBC would favour remain judges over ones who actually want to leave though

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    • Up2snuff says:

      Fed, funny thing “My home is very quiet without the Toady noise in the background . You can get used to anything.” but after the BBC/Katya Adler arrogance, they had an item on Doris Lessing and I had a hunch that it was going to have a ‘message’ so I switched off.

      And completely forgot – well, other tasks intervened as well – to switch back on. Next thing I knew: it was 9am. The BBC are their own worst enemy.

      And yes, as you imply, the quiet, the peace, the silence is very pleasant.

      Is it an age thing?

      Or a twenty-first century BBC thing?

      Or both?

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      • Fedup2 says:

        Up2
        No it’s not age . It’s just the ability to be aware that the punter is being fed propaganda and lies from just one point of view .

        I’ve seen , by accident , some of the other TV output of the BBC now – there is no challenge to engage the viewer – it’s jusr dross with a coloured or eccentric character or both talking down in simple words as used by news presenters
        I’m just so pleased that I haven’t paid for it for over 10 years . I never will .

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    • Guest Who says:

      Lord Mandelson? The one the bbc keep having on? Who with colleagues Hall and Patten get to swing legislation? That one?

         33 likes

      • Rich says:

        The very man!

        Dishonourable Member for Hartlepool 1992 – 2004.

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        • john in cheshire says:

          As some commenter on a website called him several years ago:
          Lord Mandelslime of Fondlebum

          Very appropriate.

          He’s also Chancellor of Manchester Metropolitan University, which possibly tells you something about that institution for choosing someone like him.

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  13. Guest Who says:

    OT, but be prepared:

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    We had an EXTRAORDINARY response to our vegan call out last week. More than 250 of you took the time to share your thoughts and knowledge of all things vegan. We’ve learned so much, and it has informed our special issue of Resurgence & Ecologist for January 2020. So a huge thank you. (And also an apology for the broken form and follow up email with a repaired link).

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    Editor
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    ***

    200.

    Ecologist And Graun Environment posts on FB often struggle to hit double figures in days.

    Yet these clowns drive the panic Eliot Carver needs.

       19 likes

  14. Doobster78 says:

    Using the BBC account for free promotion purposes !!! They really do have no shame do they these lot !!.

       22 likes

    • Guest Who says:

      Did he come over by yacht in time for Friday’s strike?

      Or did the licence fee payer fund him sitting up front to pop back to collect his 500 from the VIP car park valet?

         22 likes

  15. StewGreen says:

    BBC likes to keep errors on it’s webpage
    Power expert @IDAU wrote
    For the first time in a few years, I recently complained to the BBC about their online news claims that offshore wind costs £57.50/MWh * – which I discovered they had made when someone linked to a story there following the August power cut.
    (* The claim is generally nowhere near true, one wind farm got a huge subsidy for stage 1, but when they tacked a bit more on it was only awarded this price, about half of the original stage)
    My complaint was ruled out of order, because the story was more than 30 days old when I complained about it.
    So the BBC continues to publish its nonsense unhindered.

    When I checked OFCOM, I discover they insist on the same debarring rule

    BTW in 2016 the BBC produced a story about a Swedish scientist saying plastic particles had harmed fish.
    A few weeks later her research was withdrawn cos she had cheated
    Yet the BBC report is still up with no correction note.
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-36435288

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  16. Guest Who says:

    Only on…

    BBC News

    “I just want safety”

    The African migrants risking their lives to cross a Colombian jungle full of drug traffickers, thieves and poisonous animals

    Warning: Contains upsetting scenes

    [Tap to expand] https://bbc.in/2UOLnBE

       9 likes

    • Guest Who says:

      Comments currently seem more bleeding heart than logical.

         4 likes

      • BRISSLES says:

        I suppose Colombo could be swapped for Calais.

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        • Guest Who says:

          More likely to see Lily and the BBC crew (all 20,000) return to Calais if any march back the same route with the country’s main export.

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      • The Sage says:

        Stay at home then with your mother, sisters and grandmother – all of whom seem to be quite happy being left behind living in Africa and don’t feel the need to flee.
        I have visited Colombia many times and it’s rather pleasant and the days of cocaine and FARC are something mostly in the past. My message is, stay in Colombia and enjoy. Better still, fuck off back to Africa.

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  17. Guest Who says:

    🙂

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  18. upandatem says:

    There’s a touch of middle-earth about the dwarfish John Bercow. A cross between a halfling and a troll inhabiting a Tolkien world of Orcs and Goblins. He’s a comical figure, to be sure, and certainly not to be trusted, but he epitomises the very essence of the people he shares his dark world with. Long may he be given the airtime, by the BBC, to expatiate his undemocratic views, along with other historical failures such as Blair, Brown, Major and Heseltine. The country needs to know the kind of life form that deems itself fit to lead us. The pompous and self-serving Bercow is an embarrassment to this fine country of ours and is another reason why Brexit needs to happen as quickly as possible

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    • rthornton says:

      I thought hobbits were quite agreeable, by and large.

      I think of Bercow as Gollum, a perverted and twisted former hobbit.

      Continuing the analogy, the bearded Corbyn is no Galdalf, that’s for sure. Plenty of greedy dwarves in the HoP but sophisticated elves are nowhere to be seen.

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      • upandatem says:

        You’re right about the character of the Hobbits. I was thinking more about their size. Also, I can imagine Bercow with large, furry feet and living underground – probably beneath a stone.

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        • rthornton says:

          “I can imagine Bercow with large, furry feet and living underground – probably beneath a stone.”

          Yes, that works.

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    • john in cheshire says:

      I think the poison dwarf is doing his Mr Punch impersonation at the moment: ” That’s the way to do it!”

      It’s a pity for us and probably a relief for the swamp rats that we can’t hang them these days for treason and sedition.

      Someone on Nickyknownowt’s show on LBC called them traitors, whereupon he told his caller that he can’t say that. What a joke the man is – not in a good way.

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  19. Guest Who says:

    Here’s Rob Burley telling it often enough. Again.

       4 likes

    • Guest Who says:

      Rob telling it, again…

      Rob unaware that it is not convincing anyone?

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  20. john in cheshire says:

    Ezra Levant has just issued an email telling me that Tommy Robinson has been released from prison.

    Thank goodness he’s in good physical and mental health.

    Now, who is going to provide the media coverage that Julian Assange will need to ensure his mental and physical health is secured and that he can successfully fight his extradition to the USA?

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  21. Doobster78 says:

    Clueless out of touch muppet. So the Conservatives who are ahead in all the Polls will get punished for the state of the NHS ??? But he doesn’t think Labour will get punished for not delivering Brexit as per their promise to all those Labour heartlands??.

    How can one man be so consistently wrong ??? Amazing.

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  22. Dover Sentry says:

    BBC Online News:

    “”Democratic debate: Who had the best one-liner?””

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-us-canada-49670326/democratic-debate-who-had-the-best-one-liner

    And this is front page news for the BBC?

    Does it tell us something about the Hard Left, Democrat loving, Brexit hating BBC that we don’t know already?

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  23. MarkyMark says:

    Give to Christian Aid … pay for an MP to travel … this feels wrong, did the donors know what they are paying for?

    Name of donor: Christian Aid (FOR UK MP TO VISIT)
    Address of donor: PO Box 100, London SE1 1RT
    Amount of donation (or estimate of the probable value): £1,200 (FOR UK MP TO VISIT)
    Destination of visit: Israel/Palestinian Territories
    Date of visit: 8-13 June 2011
    https://www.theyworkforyou.com/regmem/?p=24929

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  24. s.trubble says:

    Isn’t it amazing that the bBC favours the recent Scottish Court Brexit verdict while underplaying almost to the extent of ignoring the Belfast Court decision which threw it out.

    What they wont tell you is that Lord Carloway has previous when it comes to controversial decisions.

    During a convoluted Tax Case against a Scottish Football Club he tried to impose an unlawful transfer ban during the course of events.

    This was found unlawful and overturned .

    It was therefore, to general surprise that he turned up later at the Appeals Court in the TAX CASE process when he overturned the findings of 2 previous tax tribunals which had found in favour of said Football Club.

    What stood out in his judgement was the introduction of the phrase…”common sense would tell you”
    Essentially Lord Carloway shifted the goalposts in favour of the HMRC.

    Now is this bias or good judgement?

    So in effect his understanding and judgement of common sense trumped the technical findings of the Tax experts at the previous trials.

    It does make you wonder if Kwasi Kwarteng was on to something?

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    • theisland says:

      Then there’s this

      and this

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    • honestus says:

      If we relied more on ‘common sense’ as m’lud alludes to, we wouldn’t be in this shite of a mess to begin with. And how does common sense sit against statute? Does it defer to it or dictate to it?
      I suggest a quick whip round amongst the leave fraternity to contribute towards his lordships, ahem, expenses, to up the ante to more than he is currently receiving from the other side (soros).

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  25. s.trubble says:

    Hi my name is Jon Sopel.
    In my last year while being paid in excess of £300,000 I have had 3 principal roles at the Circus

    1) Clown
    2) Writing this book
    3) Obtaining the distinction ” another beauty”directly from president Trump.

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  26. Up2snuff says:

    TOADY Watch #2 – Fraught for the Day

    Very Rev Nick Baines, Bishop of Leeds, brought us this today. Unfairly, I switched off at the first mention of the Far Right and Hard Right in Germany. I was tempted into assuming that a Lefty Bishop was going to do a propaganda piece.

    In my defence, I’d had a bad start to the previous night’s sleep and woke late @7.30am.

    There are at least two significant dangers for the BBC and Lefty Bishops here.

    Obviously, I didn’t listen to the full three minutes and it may not have been a propaganda piece and I may have missed out on something worthwhile from a TftD contributor and the BBC. Then there is the possibility of distractions of daily life after switching off and the Radio 4 on-switch may be left OFF for some (considerable) time. There’s another danger in that as the BBC appear to be keen to paint anyone – with TftD contributors possibly helping them out – slightly to the ‘right’ of the so-called ‘left’ and at odds doctrinally with Jeremy Corbyn and in danger of aligning with Conservatism and the Conservative Party as being Hard Right and Far Right, the very real Hard Right/Far Right, ie. (Inter)National Socialists, then get a free run at establishing themselves.

    In other words, BBC inclinations or prejudices or misunderstandings then enable the real villains to ‘slip under the wire’ and get a grip on our society.

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  27. tarien says:

    Let us engage in a little history to set some trecords straight that obviously the Remainer MP’s et al have forgotten or never did know.
    Within hours of the Brexit decision in 2016, the then President of France, François Hollande, bragged that he wanted to teach a lesson to the UK. In the remaining months of his tenure of the Elysée Palace he wanted to show that, a price had to be paid for leaving the EU and that he would ensure all other members would combine against the UK. To many in the UK this would smack of a deliberate intentent to damage British industry and British jobs, so causing suffering to the United Kingdom. To those who are acutely aware of the heroic support we gave to help liberate France and the rest of Europe in World War Two, this would appear to be the ultimate insult and betrayal.
    President Hollande and his colleagues in the EU27 were well aware other countries might decide to leave the EU if the UK continued to prosper after Brexit. Unfortunately the Irish PM Leo Varadkar made it clear on the 24th July that he would in effect support France.
    The same bureaucrats are prepared to allow countries such as Greece to have a horrendous youth unemployment rate in the region of 40%, by imposing a doomed financial straight-jacket namely the Euro, solely to achieve a federal Europe.
    It is interesting to note that even the principal founder of the Euro has warned it is destined to fail. To rub salt into the wound, the EU expects the UK to guarantee what could be in the region of €500 billion if the Euro fails, which could drag our own economy into a similar recession.
    One has a feeling that some see British friendliness and good nature as a sign of weakness but they greatly underestimate our resolve in a time of crisis. That same liberal ‘elite’ – with tremendous support from the BBC – has done its best to frustrate and undermine the most important and largest democratic vote this nation has ever undertaken. It is feared our country could be divided for many years to come no matter what the outcome of any EU departure, simply because some have refused to accept a democratic decision.
    The “do or die” pledge of Boris Johnson to deliver Brexit on October 31 is a huge gamble. If he fails he may well be the last Conservative PM, as his credibility could be completely destroyed together with that of the Conservative party.
    If I were Prime Minister or a person of influence, I would be sending out directions to every procurement office in the UK that, wherever feasible they should purchase British products and services to help protect British jobs and the British economy.
    This would help send the signal to the EU that we are resolutely determined to leave and it would remind those that seek to betray our trust and act in an underhand manner that this will not be tolerated.
    The third mandate is from Boris’s own appointment as the Conservative leader. In July, he was elected with an overall majority of his MPs and the support of two thirds of party members. He was absolutely clear about his intent. Britain would leave the EU by October 31, he said, “do or die”. The rebels who seek to stop him can hardly claim to be surprised now that, he is doing what he promised-perhaps this should be remembered by all the traiterous MP’s.

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    • Beltane says:

      History will show just how duplicitous and downright evil the EU commission has been over Brexit, not least as you rightly point out tarien, in light of the sacrifices we have made in three major European wars.
      Hitler continues to take top honours for costs in human life and infrastructure, but Napoleon runs him a good second – far more, pro rata, than WW1 and over a far longer period. I am aware of Stalin’s contribution to human progress but his efforts did not directly affect Europe in the same way.
      European ingratitude will be repaid by the US when they withdraw from NATO and Putin immediately capitalises on the gap in defences. If they seriously think that an EU ‘army’ could withstand the Red Army, even in its present underfunded state, they will learn a hard lesson – and one we should appreciate by watching as interested and uninvolved spectators. A position which with hindsight we should have adopted in 1914 and again in 1939, letting the French air their grievances to their heart’s content.

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      • honestus says:

        Tarien,
        good points well made. However, without the undermining and internal attack from the numerous fifth columnists within our own country and particularly within our own government and parliament, the EU federalists would doubtless be singing from a completely different song sheet. Their belligerent and self centred negotiations exist only because of the disunity created by our own home grown federalists and their confidence, for what it is, comes not from their own competence but from the fractiousness existing within our own negotiators, fostered and encouraged by the EU.
        Acting against your country’s interests use to and should still carry the charge of sedition, with the appropriate punishment being immediately enacted.

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  28. rthornton says:

    Apologies in advance because this is about SKY (is there any difference?).

    Around the time that Tommy Robinson is released from a high-security prison for contempt of court (!), SKY this morning features the return of some Netflix series about London gang culture. Enticing, yes?

    Two members of the cast in the Studio. One of them: “….was arrested and, in 2002, jailed for 18 months, in a young offenders’ institute. Having spent the previous nine months in custody, he subsequently served an additional nine months to complete his sentence.[8][9] On 31 March 2014, he was fined £600 after he admitted assaulting a security guard in Aberdeen in September 2013.” (Wiki)
    The other: “The 32-year-old was accused of attacking a couple in London’s Shoreditch House last September. But after Suzzan Atala and Henry Kinman failed to turn up for the trial at Wood Green Crown Court, the case against Kano was thrown out. One of them, Mr Kinman, appears to be on a climbing holiday in France. ” (BBC)

    No mention of these “difficulties” on SKY, of course, but any mention of TR is always accompanied by a reminder of his past.

    MSM racism, pure and simple.

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    • cromwell says:

      I know Sky are as vile as Bbbc but have you noticed for the last few weeks it’s been upping its bias and negativity. Inviting mostly remainers on. At the end of last year I started watching Sky news as it was not quite as bad as BBC but now it is just the same. I cant watch either I have starting listening to Nick Ferrari in the morning and Nigel Farage at 6p on LBC. Then radio off. I don’t think it’s good for your health to get riled by the b***yards everyday.

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      • rthornton says:

        “I know Sky are as vile as Bbbc”

        They are, but then they come from the same smelly pool. It’s all part of the same problem.

        I do avoid MSM most of the time. I’m probably speaking to the converted but there are some very good comments, interviews and debates on YouTube these days – Triggernometry, New Culture Forum: I So What You’re Saying Is, Politico, Sargon of Akkad etc. Keeps me sane, more or less.

        I have them downloaded automatically (‘4k Video Downloader’ works very well, for those interested).

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  29. Halifax says:

    Im getting desperate here. We are stopping in arent we. Can somebody please tell me that they have heard a rumour that Dom and BO have got a plan but they cant reveal thier hand yet. If I dont get a respose to this request im going to have a pooh weekend.
    Even Nigel doesnt appear to see a way out all he does is blame Boris somebody somewhere must have a rumour or somthing !!!Please dont spoil my weekend give me a glimmier……..please.

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    • Sabreman64 says:

      I read on the Daily Express website a couple of days ago that ITV’s Robert Peston has talked to senior Tories. Peston claims that Johnson and co have a plan on how not to request an article 50 extension from the EU. They are keeping it close to their chests and will reveal it when the time comes.

      I’m trying not to get too excited about this as I’ve had my hopes raised and dashed one too many times over the last year or so.

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  30. Terminal Moraine says:

    Nothing on BBC about Britain’s biggest ever visa scam, allowing 900 immigrants to stay in the country illegally.

    Mohammed Khan, Mazharul Haque, Maksuda Begum, and Shaheda Roxsanna all got suspended sentences. (DM, Telegraph and the Metro picking this up; tumbleweed elsewhere.) Nice detail: “Another man behind the scam has fled to Bangladesh, where he reportedly ran to become an MP.”

    Why travel? Stay in the UK and stand for parliament… fraudulent MPs all welcome here…

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  31. JamesArthur says:

    Halifax
    I think many here share your pain – being a bit snowflake today 🙂
    I just hope they have a magic hat from which to pull an EU spell

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  32. Roland Deschain says:

    Ok, hands up who’s in the slightest surprised.

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    • Guest Who says:

      Clearly it’s Friday, it’s Remain o’clock and it’s FBPE crackers Jack!

      Tonight Emily is going to personally let the tires down on all TBP MEP’s cars… live. Views her own.

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  33. Fedup2 says:

    Nearly 52000 people have viewed the TR Ezra interview on YouTube as TR came out of solitary confinement in a political prison.. If you remember what he was like the last time – he does look both physically and mentally better than last time . By the way the video 6minutes 20 seconds long and the police riot van in the background is a nice touch. They’ll probably do him for filming outside a prison

    They haven’t killed him yet .

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  34. Doobster78 says:

    Working incredibly hard to get a deal, even though those who say they want a deal the most have done everything they can to jeopardise getting said deal by taking no deal off the table therefore making getting a half decent deal even more of a ordeal !!!

    Jeepers, Swinson, Grieve, Lucas, Starmer etc have got me so wound up, i’m sweating like Fred West watching a episode of Ground Force !!!!!

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    • JamesArthur says:

      Doob
      That last paragraph is completely un-pc and made me chuckle…does that make me far right?

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  35. Celtic_Mist says:

    We’ll have to listen to the one heckler now for the rest of the day via Sky and BBC

    https://news.sky.com/story/boris-johnson-speech-interrupted-by-heckler-11808504

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  36. Sluff says:

    Some light hearted ‘you can’t make it up’ relief but with a twist. Not BBC (yet, but give it a year).

    In France a man has died of a heart attack whilst having sex with a stranger while he was on a business trip.
    A court has decided this constitutes an industrial accident and his wife and family are due compensation from his employer !!!!!

    Quite how the BBC, Corbyn, and Mcdonnell might play this to inform future policy I leave to your imagination.

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    • Sluff says:

      Perhaps ‘tickbox’ Steph (female, northern accent, lesbian) could spend her valuable time in Rotherham investigating the sexual preferences of certain…ahem…. members of the ‘community’ for underage white girls, instead of brainless anti-Tory shit-stirring.

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  37. theisland says:

    Littlejohn provides context

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7458221/RICHARD-LITTLEJOHN-Sing-song-Commons-sums-absurd-MPs-become.html

    Here’s an idea. Forget the Parliamentary shenanigans and costly court battles.  
    Why don’t we just decide the outcome of Brexit based upon a Britain’s Got Talent-style contest? Simon Cowell could occupy the Speaker’s chair. 
    After all, he couldn’t be any worse than that weasel Bercow.

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  38. Fedup2 says:

    Theisland
    I’ve started watching the latest documentary series on the rise of the nazis – I never realised that Bercow and Goering had something in common – they were both speakers of their respective parliaments .

    The situation with a speaker and 500 MPs up against a government which can’t even dissolve itself is deeply worrying – even without reference to Brexit .

    It’s a great example of group think allowing the Fixed Term Parliament Act into law.

    Supposing it wasn’t a Remain majority – but one with other equally extreme views – such as the extermination of all ginger people . There would be nothing to stop it – even if the general public disagreed .

    We are no longer in a Democratic State . It is as though the speaker has become the Prime Minister – with a head of state hiding in balmoral and not paying attention to the way people feel .

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    • honestus says:

      Fed, agreed. The one person one vote may have been an imperfect manifestation of a democratic process but it gave citizens the outward feel of being able to take part in and shape government policy. Now that the feline has escaped the receptacle, who knows what further abrogations will be committed by the few and imposed upon the many. Especially seeing how manifestos, upon which our enlightened and upstanding MP’s are voted in upon, are things to be discarded if the representative so whims, disposing of mandates like some bothersome triviality.
      Revolutions are born of less.

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      • Fedup2 says:

        Honestus – the worst thing was if you replaced the word ‘nazi’ with ‘remainer ‘ – the voting system would support either belief with the help of the Rule of Law . Both nazis and remainers have one thing in common though – they both believed that what they were doing – are doing – is for the benefit of ‘the country and people ‘ .

        I am not comparing or saying that Remainers and Nazis have anything in common apart from that view . But we have landed up with a parliamentary system happily going against a majority vote

        Bercow , it has frankly mad obsession with the primacy of the Commons over the people , is starting to smell like a dictator – even standing back from his Hitler like rants – and yes I am comparing him to Hitler .

        His abusive shouting about ‘calm down young man’ to some MP who has got upset is frankly embarrassing – one day people will look back at this time and say ‘what happened to them ?’

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    • Up2snuff says:

      Fed, I realise you do not like the word ‘prorogation’ but it is important. “The situation with a speaker and 500 MPs up against a government which can’t even dissolve itself is deeply worrying -”

      Our Parliament is always returned to sitting after being prorogued. Prorogation is not the dissolving of a Parliament, it is a suspension of Parliament for a good purpose.

      The last half of that previous sentence being completely lost (temporarily) on those Remainer MPs who have worked themselves, our media and the Remainer supporters into a state of erroneous and erogenous excitement that borders on Victorian hysteria.

      I don’t think your example works. It falls on a point of law.

      A better example: there is a danger – and it has happened at least twice in major nations in the twentieth century – is that a group win Parliamentary power via the Ballot Box (National Socialism) or promising the Ballot Box (in the case of Revolutionary Socialism) but then dispense with it.

      This, effectively, is what the Remain MPs in the House (led by the Soubrys, Grieves, Hammonds, Cables, Swinsons, Starmers, Benns and others) are doing. Pretending dishonestly to be concerned about a ‘No-Deal-Brexit’ because of ‘the harm it will do’ but really wishing to abandon UK Democracy (especially that UK-wide Referendum decision) in favour of another authority – the nascent EUNation.

      As to Her Majesty hiding and not paying attention, I would point out that she usually spends this part of the year at Balmoral. I would also suggest that she is far more aware of what the British people ‘feel’ and think than many, especially Socialist MPs, would give her credit for. In addition, as a Christian, she will be open to supernatural information from the ‘still, small, voice.’. 😉 (Isaiah 30v21, Psalm 143v8) I suspect that right now our Monarch is ‘carrying the Nation on her knees’.

      It would be a folly to discount that.

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      • Fedup2 says:

        Up2, Prorogation isn’t what I’m on about and I know HM spends her late summer in balmoral each year . But at some stage A Head Of State has to speak . I sincerely believe , as I’ve said before , is that her primary drive is to preserve her enterprise – the `royal family – so won’t engage or signal anything about the ongoing -remainer concocted – crisis.

        I don’t see my example failing on ‘law’ – the a50 treaty beats the surrender act .

        If we played an even longer game – that we left , it didn’t work , and there was a drive to rejoin -in a few years – the cost to Blighty would be very high after these shenanigans . We’d all be driving on the wrong side of the road – for a start !

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        • Up2snuff says:

          Fed, why then did you post this: “The situation with a speaker and 500 MPs up against a government which can’t even dissolve itself is deeply worrying – even without reference to Brexit.” ?

          It is a convention now that our Monarch no longer directly speaks on political matters. The Queen will make her views known [there are ways 😉 ] during the weekly audience for the Prime Minister when she is in London and Parliament is sitting.

          It would obviously be illegal for the State to do this. “Supposing it wasn’t a Remain majority – but one with other equally extreme views – such as the extermination of all ginger people.”

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          • Annunaki says:

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          • Fedup2 says:

            Up2 – dangerous to be talking of ‘conventions ‘ these days when the speaker boasts of subverting and destroying them to aid his own political belief .

            As for passing an extreme law – Bercow would just say that parliament is supreme – exempt the legislation from anything which would counter it – eg ECHE – and get on with it – complete with a rubber stamp from the 850 muppets in the Upper House – as happened with the Surrender Act last week.

            As it stands – can’t see the point of a monarch – apart from some residual affection and nice pictures – or an upper house – which ritually expresses self justification by talking of ‘experts ‘ and ‘revising bad laws ‘ – well it’s proved it does neither .

            Drain the swamp .

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            • Up2snuff says:

              Fed “As for passing an extreme law – Bercow would just say that parliament is supreme”

              In that instance it would be trumped by International Law. Bercow would find himself on trial in the Hague. Should it ever happen. It wouldn’t. There would be a mass rebellion of the people.

              As for the Queen, rthornton rightly makes the point below which was behind my post. HM is tremendously experienced and brings much more than a photo op to our country.

              As for a second chamber, I think it should be drastically slimmed and elected but on a non-partisan, from the people (Jury service style), basis. That would create a scrutinising House able to put a brake on any swerves such as the one you were suggesting earlier.

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              • Fedup2 says:

                Up2 – you have fallen for the detail on an extreme and mad example I gave . I can’t think of something with Bercow and his 500 friends would come up with -.or maybe – amending the fixed term act to make elections every 10 years .
                My point is that an unelected tyranny is now possible and the media support it .

                Public opinion has no value -people can get shouty on QT but the Remain parliament are still not answerable to anyone but themselves until maybe 2022 .

                The next speaker will be appointed by them to carry on where Bercow left off – and we ll suffer Hattie Harmon screeching instead of the malicious midget.

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          • rthornton says:

            “The Queen will make her views known [there are ways ???? ]”

            Good point. The Queen has known 15 Prime Ministers. How many advisers or consultants, which is what she is, can equal that? In a time when people in prominent positions seem to come and go so frequently, a little continuity is no bad thing.

            The validity of the German Head of State is rarely challenged yet, in many respects, there is little difference.

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  39. Beltane says:

    Earlier posts expose the frailty and prejudice behind the Scotch law lords rulings, but I suppose if you are penned in – for all its validity and common-sense – by 73 miles of 20ft high stone wall and denied the finer things in life for centuries, feelings of inadequacy and resentment are bound to build.
    When these culminate in spite-driven mentally challenged midgets like Salmond and Sturgeon, maybe we should ask the Italians for reparations in payment for the continual strain on our patience.

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  40. Guest Who says:

    “Rob, love… you’re up… again…”

       5 likes

    • Guest Who says:

      In true BBC style, all done whilst in control of the mike and the target is gone.

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    • honestus says:

      saw the McGovern ‘joke’ whilst perusing the Daily Mirror web site, which i do from time to time to cheer meself up. Steph obviously ‘takes down’ BJ ‘brutally’, according to the Mirror. As said so many many times on this site before……..Comments could be going betterer!

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      • Fedup2 says:

        Since Boris is up against it – he might as well address the BBC directly and say ‘what sort of unbiased people are you employing ?

        The BBC , in response , will announce this – er- lady as the new Toady presenter after Humphreys goes off to spend more time with his bank balance ….

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        • Annunaki says:

          Would help if she was proficient at the English language, I would have thought a prerequisite in her job but not in todays bbbc, when I did watch the BBC it drove me mad listening to her pronounciation of “here” : “hayah” and without the autocue in front of her in a live situation, the endless errrs and ummms.

          Channel 4 a close second now with black announcers and their complee inabili h i to use the letter “t”

          and they say exam passes are going up ? the use of basic English maybe does not feature anymore

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  41. taffman says:

    Pound climbs to highest level since July. Petrol prices to be cut and The Brexit Party are in Hartlepool. Cumon Al Beeb “despite Brexit” .
    It could be a sign that freedom and Independence is on the way ?
    Rule Britannia!

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  42. theisland says:

    There are rumours that Shamima Begum has been secretly flown back to the UK.
    https://www.euroweeklynews.com/2019/09/13/isis-bride-shamima-begum-flown-to-uk-amid-press-secrecy/

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  43. Annunaki says:

    To be absolutely honest I was ecpecting this to happen, another good reason to get out of Europe and its muslim appeasers

    “The so called ‘ISIS Bride’ has apparently been flown back to the UK after the country has been put under increasing pressure from its European counterparts to allow the entry of the 19 year old back into the country.”

    She shoud still be a legitimate military target as the vicious b@tch is happy to see heads in bins

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  44. theisland says:

    The defence sell out is being noticed more widely at last.

    https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/mays-secret-scandalous-surrender-of-our-defence/

    Two Prime Ministers agreed a deal that removes control of the British Armed Forces from the Queen, acting through Parliament, and neither has mentioned it. And no one picked it up, until Lord James mentioned it on Monday as the House of Lords rushed through the Bill to prevent no-deal – no doubt feeling pressurised by the Remain morons chanting ‘stop the coup’ in Parliament Square. The reality is that those who oppose Brexit have almost pulled off a feat that must be close to treason.

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    • john in cheshire says:

      This is very serious and no one in the MSM is reporting on it or explaining it to us and the ramifications for the future. UK Column covered it today on their YouTube news report.

      We have to get out of the EU – it’s an existential battle that we must win – and once out, we have to withdraw from this EU army and use our defence forces and nuclear deterrent to defend our country not foreigners.

      And as sure as night follows day, as Lord Tebbit has said, once the EU have this power, they’ll use it. To suppress dissention in any EU country.

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  45. Up2snuff says:

    I haven’t watched the BBC clips linked here: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-us-canada-49670326/democratic-debate-who-had-the-best-one-liner but I take some heart that maybe, just maybe despite his best efforts so far to lose, President Trump may and will win in 2020.

    The paucity of quality in the Democratic Party is very worrying for a two Party Nation.

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  46. Mackers says:

    Donald trump the socialist crusher,the delayer of the end times or for you non believers out there world war 3.

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  47. Annunaki says:

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