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With close to 2 million applications to vote made in the past 8 weeks – significantly higher than average and with the overwhelming majority in the below 35 age group – something makes me ask why?
Nothing sly and undemocratic going on, is there?
I would like to offer my insincere condolences to those ‘communities’ who are doubtless mourning the death of man of letters and of man of action, Baghdadi.
He is alleged to have obtained a Doctorate in Islamic Studies, which somewhat gives the lie to the claim that ISIS is a perversion of ‘true’ islam. Au contraire, some might say it is following true islam to the letter.
I note that the BBC called him the leader of ‘IS’ and the PM of Israel was allowed to express an opinion, probably because he said ‘Daesh’.
I expect calling it The Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant is a truth too far.
In at least one report, Al-beeb continued to refer to it as the ‘so-called Islamic State’.
Subtext: it’s not really the islamic state because islam is a religion of peace. We know that because O’barmy, May and Khant told us so.
Naturally the beeb can’t bring itself to say anything positive about the President, one reporter accusing him of making maximum capital out of the raid, and of revealing more details about it than he should have. In Beebland, Obama was a daring military leader for taking out Bin Laden, Trump is an oaf who got lucky.
The Washington Post in an effort to display more Islamophilia than the BBC described him as an austere religious scholar.
I hope we can identify austere religious scholarship as a crime manifesting itself in machete attacks, rapes, cars driven into pedestrians.
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He wasn’t that austere.
He “married” the American hostage Kayla Mueller, and forced her to convert to islam. He then raped her every day for what was left of her life, before he had her decapitated for one of his islamic snuff movies.
Still, as the dhimmis of the Washington Post point out, he was an “Islamic scholar”, there was nothing “so called” about the islamic state. He was merely following the example of the founder of his religion. Murder and rape are at the heart of islam, and it can never change. Baghdadi knew that, maybe this fact is just starting to penetrate the dim minds of Western liberals.
One can but hope.
BBC News again returns to its happy place…
Welcome to the Jewish, Queer club night held in London where Ben combines both his faith and queer identity.
My Faith, My Way – a series about young Brits expressing their faith. bbc.in/2Wpe1Kn (Via BBC Stories)
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Sleep well, all.
Labour and Voter ID
London Fire Brigade chief under fire ?
Over to you Al Beeb ……………………
“Die in a ditch Boris” has failed just like Mrs Chamberlain .
All that Parliament has been doing is to continuing to ‘kick the can down the road’ . When will dyed in the wool Tories realise that our ‘Esteemed’ Parliament gets its orders from the EU ?
The only salvation for this country is to vote for The Brexit Party, unless Bo Jo has some miracle in a bag that he can pull by Halloween .
If I hear them mention Workers Rights again I’ll do myself a mischief……
Well I’m a worker and the only Right I’m bothered about is that my vote and 17.4 million other is acted on….surely that’s the biggest Workers Right !!!
Thought he would tweet this –
This guy has a lot of well-known followers.
If he’s correct about this then one of the BBC’s ‘four women of colour’ is in DS –
Editor at Large of the Daily Mail ???? since when ??
Those with long memories will recall a time when the UK if it did not actually win the Eurovision Song contest at least received a decent score.
Then the Berlin Wall came down and the Soviet Union broke up and Eastern Europe joined the competition and the new members voted for each other and we collected lots of nul points.
It would serve all these anti-democrats in the UK right if the Eastern Europe members of the EU got their act together and started overturning the Franco-German axis, throwing out their precious ‘workers’ rights’ and ‘environmental protections’ that they don’t think a UK parliament is grown-up enough to enact.
And there wouldn’t be a damn thing they could do about it.
Who knows?
Lots of interesting information on Imam of Peace, the sort of thing you’ll never hear in a thousand years on Far-Liberal, Islam-Loving, Republican-Hating, Biased-to-the-core BBC.
Tweets by Imamofpeace
BBC heaven !!
Still using polluting materials and polluting services.
Their “Greenery” only goes so far, enough to feel virtuous, not so far that their lifestyle will be affected.
Meanwhile, a bBc questions as a headline is posed, in a Moaning Emole Pulitzer entry…
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Is it OK if someone wants to live for years on a bench?
A large bulky object wrapped in a bright blue tarpaulin. It is sitting in the middle of the pavement. It could be an old piano, maintenance equipment, a delivery waiting to be unpacked. But then the tarpaulin starts to move, an arm appears and the cover is pulled back to reveal a man and a woman, swaddled in blankets sitting on a bench.
They have been living on this bench on a busy London street for more than four years. By day they sit there watching the world go by. At night they pull the cover over and sleep. The bench has become their home.
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So, a bit like BBC ‘reporting’, ok?
Guest – when I read the heading I thought is was the 500 zombie traitor MPs …. but no .
I was musing the other day that if there ever is an election how many of those traitors would actually go ? A fair balanced media would have published a list by now – showing the working out – but I’ve not seen one . The SNP are safe I suppose because the rabid English haters who support them would vote for a haggis if it had an SNP ribbon on it – come to think of it Ian- the people of Scotland – blackford does look full of the stuff …
BBC R4 advertising a programme later today – described as men trying to reverse feminism….no that isn’t what they are doing they is simply trying to equalise the rampant anti masculine – pro feminine culture – exemplified in a small bar on weekend and the sign said – misogynistic behaviour will not be tolerated …so by default misandristic will be —that’s the issue BBC
Toady
The state broadcaster is on safe ground with the Grenfell fire so is pushing on with its favourite – blame. This time the blame lands on the head of the London Fire Brigade . And it seems – quite rightly .
When you think about it there are tower blocks all over the place – of all different types – so the fire brigade will know how to deal with tower block fires – right ?
It seems not . This is even more serious because of 9/11 and ridiculously films like ‘Towering inferno’. Yet the London Fire Brigade Command seems to have closed their eyes to the threat .
I’m glad I don’t live or work in a tower block any more …
Toady 2
Whenever the Labour Party want to bore people to death they put up Barry Gardiner . If you imagine what hell is like it would be having him talking at you for eternity . The tories used to put up a bloke called ‘gauke ‘ who did the same until he got sat on the naughty step .
But I thought the fire was started deliberately by exterior cladding expert Theresa May and with the help of the local Conservative-led council. That seemed to be the message at the time and if residents and various celebs were to be believed.
Bbc Jugend Editor warning kids about beastly Tories doing what Labour does, but in a more devious way.
terrible news for the bbc…
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-50202916
but obviously the voters in Germany disgree with el-beeb
Good ole Phil Hammond – R4 moaning that BJ and his vote leave friends are delaying Brexit…funny world where Mr Doom and Gloom is now saying he is the good guy..and all the others are nasty..BBC didn’t interrupt of question him on his past actions…I am glad I am limiting my BBC time to very little..
A little sideshow…
Rich metros arguing they should be even richer for looking at cameras always resonates well with the public.
A nicely balanced piece from the local bbc station:
Has Boris Johnson failed as the Prime Minister?
The Conservative leader will today try again to force an election — having failed to do so for a third time last night.
Yesterday, the PM officially accepted the EU’s offer of an extension to the Brexit deadline to 31 January- meaning we won’t be leaving the EU this Thursday, despite Boris previously being adamant that we would.
“Boris previously being adamant that we would”
Not enough of the other 649 agreed with him and and aren’t in the mood to play anything these past three years (and more) other than ‘pass the parcel’.
A PM with a thumping majority has a better chance of looking good in the ‘getting things done’ stakes. I don’t know why we won’t face it; we voted leave in 2016 only to elect a remain parliament in 2017. Who is to blame for that?
We elected a Leave parliament, at least according to their manifestos. Both Conservative and Labour claimed they were committed to leaving, but Labour just lied as they always do, and CINO’s like Soubry and Ken Clarke also lied.
Clarke said that everyone who elected him knew his views; true but then he should not have stood on that manifesto and formed his own Democracy-lite Conservative Partry.
“We elected a Leave parliament, at least according to their manifestos.”
I recall the Labour manifesto of 2005 had a commitment to “let the people decide.”
Manifesto is a word. The Conservatives and Labour both campaigned to Remain in the EU in 2016. I don’t believe in stripe changing tigers; not in the space of a year anyway.
Watch the anti-democratic shenanigans being attempted by the MP’s…………., not allowing a general election in the winter because “its too Dark”, “too cold”, so what ever happened to global warming ?
Not enough ‘indoctrinated’ kids so there will be an attempt to lower the age of the voter to 16?
Moves afoot by all the anti-Brexit parties to form a coalition .
Expect some absurd project fear being concocted by Al Beeb to push the propaganda for the above .
What on earth does OFcom do ?
If Boris was serious about Brexit he would team up with The Brexit Party . But then, is he “serious” ?
Taffman, if he was serious then he would not have opposed/defended the case brought by Robin Tilbrook of the English Democrats to say that we have already left on 29th March 2019. But he did defend it and had it quashed.
That to me suggests that all he cares about is the Conservative Party and not the UK.
The only way to get a clean break Brexit is to vote for The Brexit Party.
Meanwhile, nationally:
GW,
He needs to do precisely nothing, nothing at all. Do not engage with any traitors or the EU. Sit it out: when in a hole stop digging.
Problem is, he has turned out to be a blatant liar along with all the rest.
BBC News
It is 50 years since Moneta Sleet became the first African American to win a Pulitzer for journalism.
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TOADY Watch #1 – Tony’s boys are losing again
Brandon Lewis MP 3:0 JustRemainIn Webb BBC
Barry Gardner MP (‘Remain but still trying to be a democrat and accept the Referendum result’) had a noticeably less interrupty interview as did Phil Hammond MP (‘ I’m still a Conservative, the rest of the Party are not, even though I’m the one trying to subvert the Referendum result’)
Brandon got the talkover treatment (Justin breaking rule no.2 for radio broadcasters) but still came out on top. Brandon was on top of his brief & clear and not cowed by Justin.
I am very concerned.
If this December GE takes place, the EU machine will go into overdrive on a scale, and budget, of unparalleled ferocity.
Lies will become more common than confetti at a wedding.
Bias at the BBC, you have seen nothing yet.
Boris must tell the HoC we left the EU in March, and send Tusk and Co a large bill.
LCS, the other thing that will happen in a GE is that Corbyn and Labour will make it about other issues. They will be the ones doing the ‘dog-whistle-politics’ and introducing the future of the NHS, the homelessness crisis and Universal Credit.
In a way, another Referendum is preferable in that it ties the Parties down to the key question: In or Out.
Up2,
The ‘key question: In or Out’. Rather ‘in or half out’ surely?
G, that’s what the toadies in Parliament & elsewhere would like it to be. I can imagine there will be an almighty struggle in Parliament over the voting options. As things stand, Bojo would lose, and Hilary Benn would win and it would be as you say: In or Half-Out as a choice for voters.
Game-changer: it may be different if Bojo gets his General Election. Bojo (& Cummings!) will have to, hopefully, eat humble pie and cosy up to The Brexit Party with 15 to 20 seats and go on bended knee in Ulster to repair relationships there. It therefore may be just enough for Bojo to do something radical without another EU Referendum.
Today the government will table a ‘short bill’ for a GE. I assume this will be ‘amended’ by the filth in the Traitors’ Parliament to include 16/17 year olds [?].
Although most of us want a GE unfortunately TBP will be lucky to get more than a handful of seats due to FPTP, unopposed voter fraud etc.
It now appears the Conservatives, even the ERG, will never go for a no deal/clean break.
We shall probably end up with a hung parliament (or worse).
All the while the remainstream media will be permitted to spout their evil propaganda. And alien appeasement in all its vile forms will continue.
We are stuffed.
Not on Brexit but related to Island’s post.
I think it was agreed enthusiastically at the recent Labour Party conference, held btw while parliament was not sitting, as is entirely usual, that the minimum voting age should be 16 and that there should be no voter discrimination as between UK citizens and all immigrants irrespective of status. All should get the same voting rights, in the interests of Corbynite equality.
Thus it will be possible for an under 18 bearded asylum seeker to be both a ‘mature responsible adult’ AND a ‘vulnerable child’ at one and the same time!
Amazing, isn’t it, in Socialist la la land.
The BBC, needless to say, will fail to spot the inherent contradiction.
and ban anyone over 70…as apparently nothing will affect them?
When did we become so yoof obsessed? I thought I knew everything at 5 years old then again at 10 and at 15 and 18 and 20 but in hindsight I knew F** all..and I was one of the brighter kids –
Nice piece on Twitter of our favourite dian abbot falling for the oldest trick – having Maitliss of all people – putting a quote by a labour bod to her – and then she jumps in to say it is a piece Of ‘Tory ‘ strategy .
She even sailed afterwards not even realising how dumb she sounds -and looks . And that character could land up in charge of national security . I ask you .
Is Cor Bin a closet Brexiteer ?
Will the so called ‘Labour Party’ change their leader ? There are a lot of Anti-Brexit candidates for his job .
Perhaps Al Beeb will direct its propaganda towards a new leader for The Labour Party?
Time will tell …………………
I’m out of the country ? Have I missed something ?
Yesterday the Parliamentart Committee on Standards issued a long awaited report- 1142 days – on the conduct of one Keith Cocaine Vaz .
Has this report been reported by the State Boradcaster ?
Particularly now that mr vaz has become ‘poorly ‘ and admitted to hospital .
Don’t forget – after being accused of misconduct by a fellow MP the Labour Party got Vaz appointed as chair of the ‘justice ‘ committee .
This is an extract from the report –
The actual reason for Mr Vaz’s invitation to the two men is equally clear. We find the evidence to be compelling that Mr Vaz was previously acquainted with the men, that he had paid them money to engage in sexual activity with him, that he had paid money to procure the attendance of a third man also to engage in sexual activity, and that at the conclusion of the encounter (when those present had finally accepted that the third man was not going to arrive) he did engage in sexual activity for which he had paid. We support the conclusions of the Commissioner on this matter, and would add, on the basis of our own examination of the audio-recording and transcript, that as well as the evidence she brings forward in support of her interpretation of events, numerous other instances from the recording and the transcript could also be presented. Mr Vaz’s claims as to the purpose of the encounter are, frankly, ludicrous.
Drain the swamp .
You know that his real name is Nigel Vaz? Strange that is never rammed down our throats in the way Tommy Robinson’s is every time his name is printed in the MSM.
Accidently caught a few seconds of Hospital Radio’s nearest competitor, Radio 5, last night.
Bath MP, German-born Wera Hobhouse, was telling us that she didn’t want a general election as Boris could carry out his dastardly plans with a mere 38% of the vote whereas a referendum would require 50%.
Of course Mrs Hobhouse only became an MP with a minority of votes (47.3%) and we already had a referendum with a 52% majority being ignored by her and her fellow Quislings. (Her own dear leader has already told us that she would ignore a majority ‘leave’ vote again).
I’m sure Hospital Radio would have challenged that but not our ‘impartial’ BBC.
TOADY Watch #2 – Memory Loss or Lack of Learning?
Lady firefighter on to talk about California wildfires. JustRemainIn Webb was BBC US Editor before returning to UK to host TOADY. Did he learn nothing about the USA while in the USA? Was he totally Washington-centric and only concerned with the politics?
On twitter bbc going the ‘quote’ route reassigning blame from the fire brigade back where it suits better.
Expect more diverse fire chiefs who don’t know folk live in tower blocks.
She got the job, she got the uniform and she got the title, now she gets the pension. The responsibility ?
https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2019/10/28/politics/isis-leadership-contender-al-mawla/index.html?__twitter_impression=true
New Leader for ISIS. Another austere religious scholar. Better not say anything negative about him. This Tory Government are afraid of being seen as Islamophobic and will very likely lock you up
“In Europe, unless the law says you can do something then you assume can’t. In Anglo Saxon Britain unless the laws says you can’t do something you assume you can. And that is the fundamental difference between us (UK) and Europe.” @8:40
Marky
Me and the free speech idea really clash here . I don’t personally accept the idea of ‘ hate speech ‘ but as a moderator I have to take It from a different angle .
It’s the same with language which some might find ‘ offensive ‘ or even ‘racist ‘ . Challenge but don’t stop
It from being used . But I can’t adopt that here so sometimes I and others moderators edit a bit .
I think it’s a testament to users of the site that this doesn’t happen much – even with people who might be ‘ tired and emotional ‘ late at night . … thanks
It’s a hard one but to hold words back means they won’t be heard thus you cannot view someones real intentions. Anjem Choudary though hated at least told you what he thought.
No actually it’s the opposite of what she says
In most of Europe including Germany a law is merely a suggestion
not a rule that cannot be broken, like we in the UK believe.
Guardian in shock admission that loss of the nation state and incumbent politics is related to increasing chaos and instability. Ah but only in the Middle East.
Their GCSE-level take on the killing of Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi: The sociology of violence […] will only be defeated by a political project that transcends the religious, nationalist and ethnic schisms in the region.
Anyway it turns out it’s mostly Trumps fault. But 27 years after the publication of Fukuyama’s The End of History, the Guardian still clings to the suspect idea that Western liberal democracy is the utopian solution. They say there should be a “serious attempt to transcend the religious, nationalist and ethnic schisms in the region. Economic and political modernisation, forgiveness and peace would help lay ghosts to rest.”
One wonders what that serious attempt will look like. Open borders / climate crisis / one-world teachings in the bombed out streets of Raqqa? It’s all lightweight fluff from a media class that would have Netflix, veganism and Oprah-style sharing as the tools of ‘modernisation’ to tackle deep rooted ethnic and religious conflict.
TM,
“The sociology of violence […] will only be defeated by a political project that transcends the religious, nationalist and ethnic schisms in the region.”
Surely that’s Globalism………….
Jeremy Corbyn has caved into supporting a general election in December. But of course he only did so because he knew that it was going to happen anyway and he didn’t want to look defeatist.
Yes I’m looking forward to Corbyn setting out his EU policy – the deal he would strike, the confirmatory referendum he would hold.
Of course it wouldn’t be Corbyn without there being strings – schoolchildren and EU citizens being allowed to vote in the election?
I only listen to TOADY a bit later in the day so sorry if I’m repeating what others have already said: really pushing Remoaners again this morning (if they had a Leaver I missed him/her/it – wasn’t listening avidly all the time ;o)
Sounded pretty much like “electioneering” to me though.
Even though they (occasionally) attempt to hide their bias by actually interrupting their guests’ preaching [Martha Kearney/Drew Henry, Justin Webb/Chuka Umunna – who were each allowed to state that the PM and government cannot be trusted “because they lie and don’t keep their promises” … promises they are unable to keep because the Opposition Benches block them at every turn!] why only INVITE one side? (… good example of their bias?? ;o)
Naomi Smith (“Best for Britain”, oh yeah?) was given a platform by the BBC to push a website where people can apparently check how to vote tactically to ensure Remain parties win enough votes …
What absolute rubbish by LibDems /SNP saying the 9th December is preferable to the 12th because of the “poor students” who then might not be able to vote (twice). It’s so obviously just another power grab to demonstrate they have the ability to change a date – and prove Boris has not kept yet another “promise”.
As if 3 days will make ANY difference with this Parliament?
Geoffrey Cox was on point yesterday: they are an absolute disgrace. I will say one thing for this farce though: I am sure many, like me, have for the first time taken an interest in politics and actually watched ParliamentLive and seen how these “creatures” behave / talk / dress – as representatives of their constituencies – and I hope that will also affect how people vote next time!
When I think back to the pompous Weeble (Blackford) last night going on about the importance of giving young folk the right to vote (those lemmings who have NO idea what “real [working] life” is all about and just follow the [wrong] leader – see f**ing Fridays for Future). Wonder what Corbynist lie they will be promised to gain votes this time?
This morning each speaker emphasised the fact that they don’t just want to stop a no-deal Brexit they want / need to stop it all together … Goodbye democracy!
I can only hope that all this “pressurising” by the media will make the enraged Leavers (and disgusted Remainers) get out (whatever the weather – I’ve told my Mum I’ll pay for a taxi if necessary!) and vote for the Leave parties …
(Sorry, this has taken longer to upload as I kept getting an error message?)
Frustrated – I’ve deleted the duplicates – if you wondered where they went …
It is interesting that remainers have suddenly started ranting about under 12s getting the vote – that over the hill fool Kenneth Clarke ( first elected 1970 ) was on about it last week and now others see it as another remainer weapon .
Why stop at the under 12’s ? when all pregnant women (or other) would be eligible for a double vote !!!
Each sperm is able to fertilize an egg, so how many votes will a man have?
Each sperm is able to fertilize an egg, so how many votes will a man have?
A GE is about to be agreed. A BBC claim that the Tories or Brexit Party won’t win… the bias is about to get extream!
Looks like Paul, Ash and Owen block booked on Newsnight to Xmas.
Before my mind turns to serious research, I’ve taken a general look at how International Treaties can be withdrawn from unilaterally. Starting from the established principle (subject to change of course if Bercow has anything to do with it) that one Government cannot bind a successor, it appears it is only the shame and opprobrium from the International Community that applies if one party decides to pull out. Interesting info here:
https://lonang.com/library/reference/vattel-law-of-nations/vatt-213/
I’m thinking that if TBP have eventually any influence, it would enhance their standing and prospects if they stated that irrespective of the “deal” that the UK signs up to with the EU, they pledge to withdraw from any Treaty resulting. Then, ‘let rip’ all you remoaners/Bercow/Miller go for what you feel is appropriate in the knowledge that if Farage & Co come to an influential position and despite the condemnation Internationally, we will pull out. That would put the cat amongst the pigeons……………..
I for one, would be happy to feel ‘ashamed’.
The problem is we all thought voters would vote against Jeremy Corbyn in 2017 and instead he almost won. Will that happen again?
Indeed Corbyn did well in 2017 by not talking about the EU. May famously delivered a manifesto that attacked her core vote. Job done.
James,
Once you accept that, whatever, we are all on the road to hell in a handcart, it doesn’t matter. It may only be the speed of decent into total anarchy which will be affected. The slide is inexorable. The ultimate destination, known.
Indeed Corbyn did well in 2017 by not talking about the EU. May famously delivered a manifesto that attacked her core vote. Job done.
I am sorry for the duplicate post. I’d thought it was lost along with the original. By the time both appeared I had no opportunity to delete either.
I am sorry for the duplicate post. I’d thought it was lost along with the original. By the time both appeared I had no opportunity to delete either.
I see what you did there.
Yes Roland. It’s unbelievable. I’m going to have a lie down in a darkened room. I’m seeing double.
That is my concern. In the last GE my first thoughts where ‘what if he swings it?’ And he almost did.
Then again May was disappointing while Corbyn promised everything to everyone including getting those students on board with the student debt ‘ambition’ which turned out to be false. I think those youngsters, now three years older might be poached by the ever greedy Lib Dem’s and the Greens with the environment policies so Labour might struggle this time
Nothing to do with lawless open borders or mass immigration I’m sure but……
An infectious disease that can harm the brain and is spread to people by tick bites has been identified in ticks in the UK for the first time.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-50206382
“ How it got here is less clear. Experts say infected ticks may have hitched a ride on migratory birds.”
Hahaha yes of course. It’s a mystery how it got here.
How long have birds been migrating for?
When did the illegal immigrants start pouring in unchecked?
Dystopian
There’s not many birds, it’s mainly blokes.
A BBC report from Nov 18 is now at the centre of a debate on Twitter –
“The BBC has uncovered details of a secret deal that let hundreds of IS fighters and their families escape from Raqqa, under the gaze of the US and British-led coalition and Kurdish-led forces who control the city.
A convoy included some of IS’s most notorious members and – despite reassurances – dozens of foreign fighters. Some of those have spread out across Syria, even making it as far as Turkey.”
‘Raqqa’s Dirty Secret’
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/resources/idt-sh/raqqas_dirty_secret
Also In the article –
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“We took out around 4,000 people including women and children – our vehicle and their vehicles combined. When we entered Raqqa, we thought there were 200 people to collect. In my vehicle alone, I took 112 people.”
Another driver says the convoy was six to seven kilometres long. It included almost 50 trucks, 13 buses and more than 100 of the Islamic State group’s own vehicles. IS fighters, their faces covered, sat defiantly on top of some of the vehicles.”
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Interesting to read Burgon’s quote as it sets out Labour’s stall – they will run a negative campaign.
‘Hope not fear’ didn’t last for long?
Labour will win less than 100 seats at the election………i wonder if i can put a bet on??
more likely a 130% postal vote turnout
I might bet a lot of money that they win so if they do win then at least I get some cash out of it while I plan my escape from this country. Labour will cripple this country
I might bet a lot of money that they win so if they do win then at least I get some cash out of it while I plan my escape from this country. Labour will cripple this country
Labour will win less than 100 seats at the election………i wonder if i can put a bet on??
Labour will do well by sticking to their 2017 plan and ignore those thorny EU questions as much as possible; instead campaign on ‘social issues’ and their arsenal of vote winning slogans such as ‘get the Tories out by Christmas.’
(I notice there are a few duplicate posts appearing today (mine included). A bug?)
Fair question from Piers !!!
Letterbox fight!
Are you sure that wasn’t the Monty Python cast heading for the set of Life of Brian?
Lots of interesting information on Imam of Peace, the sort of thing you’ll never hear in a thousand years on Far-Liberal, Islam-Loving, Republican-Hating, Biased-to-the-core BBC.
Tweets by Imamofpeace
1pm news, both local stations playing a long clip of Corbyn then a little later clip of Tom Brake LimDem. then briefest clip of a Tory
The Genfell report blames the London Lesbian Feminist fire chief for her actions on the night, and astonishing insensitivity.
The reality is that the people in the Grenfell tower died not only as a result of flamable cladding, but because of political correctness in promoting someone beyond their ability purely on the grounds of victim status.
Not that you will hear that from the media though.
Part 1 of the report only deals with the response
Later part 2 will deal with what caused the fire.
Oops didn’t mean to report…
Why does the cause and initiation of the fire get discussed after the response?
That’s backward
I had a moan on here yesterday about how many times Attenborough mentioned climate change in his latest offering.
Surprised I was not to read this:
Looks like he just made some of it up. Unchallenged by the BBC, naturally.
Roland
To be able to make money out of gullible virtue signallers is to be welcomed . Every year the state broadcaster rehashes its nature footage – stocks a green message on it and flogs the DVD / full colour book for the Christmas market
There always has to be something cuddling under threat from a nasty spider / insect / reptile
For some reason I find myself rooting for the baddy -if I’m ever anywhere where some one has it on .
I gather I’ve missed out on ‘ something’s melting ‘ again . Yawn
So at last a nice clean fight is arranged. It’s Boris versus Labour, Momentum, SDP, Lib Dems, BBC, Channel 4, Guardian, Independent, ITV, and the shouty bloke outside Parliament.
Seems like a straight fight to me….
…and, in the studio, expert analysis from impartial guests Gavin Esler, James O’Brien, Jon Humpty, Jim Naughtie, Paul Mason….
Narcissists ‘horrible people but happy’ https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-50184281
Al Beebs choice of stock photos again reveals their hatred of white people. Negative article = white people featured.
Also, please tell us about the demographics of the sample in this research? I’m pretty sure the rap culture youth are narcissistic.
TWatO Watch #1 – Faulty correspondent
The Grenfell Tower fire report part 1 is being talked about. There is an apparently rather dim (‘some might say’ extremely thick!) correspondent (Martin something) who believes the cladding on Grenfell Tower set fire to itself. He keeps referring to the cladding as being the primary cause of the fire.
It was not.
No correction to his fake/false on-air report from The Montacutie.
The BBC are still happy to keep pushing out FakeNews and FalseFacts themselves, while pointing at others of being guilty of those faults.
I seem to remember that there were hundreds of buildings clad with similar inflamable cladding. Of course there are also a few houses with timber floors and roofs scattered about the country.
@Up2snuff Did you hear an extra word
“polyethylene material in the cladding was the primary cause of the fire’s **spread.**”
BTW aluminium ignites at a certain temperature and acts as a fuel.
Think I missed that bit, Stew. Was probably too busy moaning at the radio & making a mental note to post on here.
Alu does burn, indeed, esp. when hit by missiles made by one EU member State and sold to an enemy of a fellow EU member State and used against them in combat. So much for the EU keeping the peace & its peace-keeping capabilities, huh?
Up2snuff I am not saying BBC Martin said that word “spread”
he should have said that
maybe he didn’t.
Not on radio, Stew, you are right he didn’t.
Were you watching a TV report, from the same reporter? He said on R4 twice (or Beeb repeated a segment) that the cladding caused the fire. Just plain not true. The fire is thought to have started in a faulty electrical appliance but we will have to wait for Part 2 of the Report to know for sure.
The cladding made the effect of the fire worse. The Report, rightly imv, said the Fire Brigades approach & other operational problems made the casualties worse.
@Up2Snuff No I took the quote from twitter
..and that phrase is plausib;e
However the actual cause of the fire could well be an illegal cannabis factory igniting nylon curtains that were wafting out of an open window etc.
Just one of many possible scenarios.