Start the Week Thread 3 February 2020

There are reports that the Government is to launch a consultation on decriminalising ‘no TV licence’ – perhaps this week . The Biased Far Left BBC will argue that it will lead to loss of revenue and ability to produce ‘quality ‘ programmes . It would be good if this site could make a contribution to the consultation as a small step to make the BBC British again or end it . Contributions welcome .

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433 Responses to Start the Week Thread 3 February 2020

  1. fakenewswatcher says:

    Gove wasn’t exactly convincing! Put mildly.

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  2. Guest Who says:

    BBC house journal makes presumption. Regrets immediately.

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  3. Sluff says:

    It’s eco virtue-signalling humbug time.
    Being a normal sort of person, we have gas central heating and a gas hob.
    My annual energy bill shows I get five times more energy from gas than from electricity.
    So to go carbon neutral, Someone is going to have to produce five times more electricity than they do now. And it’s all got to be renewable.
    Plus, as was shown by a correspondent a week or two back, when there was no wind, wind energy output was reduced to only 10% of the installed wind power base.
    Plus I’ll be having to use an electric car, along with 30 million other people by around 2050.
    Plus, hardly any new build schools, hospitals, or public housing have solar panels…..so someone somewhere in the public sector knows that they are not cost effective, despite what we are continually told.
    Plus, the tens of thousands of immigrants annually arriving from low per capita energy using countries such as Pakistan are hardly likely to want to use only the same energy they used to use ‘back home’.

    I look forward to St Greta of Thumberg, Lord David of Attenborough, and Mr Roger of Harrabin providing quantitative explanations of future energy use.

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    • Old Goat says:

      Plus, the German Energiewende is falling apart because the wind turbines weren’t such a good idea, after all – and the “government” of the Former UK want more of ’em…

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      • Sluff says:

        Ah yes, eco- friendly, green Germany.
        Which produces almost 40% of its electricity from……errrrr……..coal power stations..

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  4. Guest Who says:

    BBC Today Propaganda

    Today: 0709 Claire O’Neill on being sacked as the president of this year’s Glasgow climate conference, 0810 Head of the Parole Board Martin Jones & 0730 Baroness Shami Chakrabarti on terror laws & 0750 Chaos for the Democrats in the Iowa caucuses.

    ***

    So, useless woman heads to the platform she knows will help.

    Idiot and dodgy lawyer start to undermine the right wing MP for Streatham’s claims… novel.

    And… Jon is inconsolable.

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  5. andyjsnape says:

    Brexit: Will it be a Canadian or an Australian ending?, reports Laura Kuenssberg (German sounding surname), no bias obviously.

    Australia has been negotiating with the EU for 18 months – while the UK wants its deal wrapped up in less than a year the eu.bc “reports” – not exactly like for like example – the eu for example wants the UK’s fishing grounds, and continue to sell French wine, and German cars i’m sure the eu will speed things up

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  6. Terminal Moraine says:

    Reuters reporting a knife attack yesterday evening at a police barracks in Dieuze, France. Police received a warning call prior from a soldier saying he was planning to attack in the name of IS.

    Yahoo and Compuserve also reporting this (didn’t they die out in the 90s?) but nothing at all from the MSM. BBC can add this to their ever growing pile of things in France not getting coverage.

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  7. Frustrated says:

    Anyone else notice that BBC also doesn’t seem to be interested in reporting anything on the French “Mila affair” (at least I couldn’t find anything) even though it HAS been reported in some British papers.

    Suppose it would mean them having to take some sort of stand against our favourite religion of peace?!

    “Mila Orriols, a 16-year-old French girl who had criticised Islam on social media, was forced to go into hiding after she received thousands of death threats from Muslim fundamentalists.”

    French politicians and leftist elite showing their true colours and cowardism, no one daring to offend: “Je ne suis pas Mila” … Do they not realise that this will just encourage the fanatics?

    Similarly our MPs in Parliament yesterday: all jumping on the bandwaggon to criticise the “racist” Norwich high-rise posters.

    OK, maybe the author could have put it slightly less provocatively but what is wrong with saying “if you want to live here and be accepted in our society, please speak English”?

    No one dares to speak out and stand up for what’s right: should it not go without saying that you speak (learn) the language of the country you (want to) live in?

    So now we see “Scores of heart-shaped messages of love and support (“Everyone is welcome”) now stick proudly on the side of the Norwich tower block where a racist flier was posted on the day the United Kingdom left the European Union.” Good grief :o(((

    A dangerous path they are on …

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    • Guest Who says:

      Seems lacking in balance, and common sense, that certain police forces commit scores of rozzers to follow one jihadi and only pounce once he has done what comes naturally, injuring innocents.

      Meanwhile another police force tells a definite target just to lay low.

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    • Frustrated says:

      Sometimes I think the BBC really does watch this site!

      At lunchtime they posted a fairly “neutral” article on Mila ;o)

      (Hope this works:)
      https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-51369960

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      • StewGreen says:

        @Frustrated you are right
        It is strange that when most media reported on Mila 2 weeks ago from Jan 20th , the BBC ignored it.
        Maybe her being labelled as a lesbian puts her higher up the BBC victimhood pyramid
        the BBC put up the article just before 11:53am (first tweet)

        What’s new
        \\ Interior Minister Christophe Castaner said that the teenage Mila and her family were “protected by the police”,
        the girl being the subject of death threats for having criticized Islam. “Mila and her family are the subject of special vigilance” #AFP //

        The BBC article doesn’t mention this police protection

        The archive
        https://web.archive.org/web/*/https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-51369960

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  8. SkeptikEye says:

    I have recently watched two You Tube videos and am filled with incandescent rage at the BBC’s incapacity to broadcast the truth.

    The videus are:

    and

    What are the British people to do? Well here’s what you do. Start to get organised. Withhold paying your Council tax. They can arrest and imprison 5 people or 50 people but 5, 10 or 15 million people becomes a force to be reckoned with. Secondly and this is hard for many. Stop buying cigarettes and tobacco the impact on the Government through loss of tax and duty revenue will have such an impact. If possible extend this to not buying petrol or diesel fuel for the same reason. Not only will the Government be impacted but so will the big businesses that have influence with the Government. Also withhold paying your BBC license fee. Show the ‘Powers that be’ you are as mad as hell and you’re not going to take it anymore!

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    • G says:

      SE,
      “Not only will the Government be impacted but so will the big businesses that have influence with the Government. Also withhold paying your BBC license fee. Show the ‘Powers that be’ you are as mad as hell and you’re not going to take it anymore!”
      Good sentiments but, wot abaht the advertisers (and their clients) cramming ‘diversitee’ down our throats?

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    • Dystopian says:

      Around 2:13 is the reason why this is not being talked about by the BBC.
      The prostitute had alleged connections with someone of executive status at the BBC.
      This corruption runs to the very heart of the establishment. That is why it is being deliberately hushed up.

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  9. Terminal Moraine says:

    A small moment this morning as Rachel Burden on R5 interviewed Gove about electric cars.

    Discussing the logistics, Rachel Mary Ann Cecilia Burden (born in Marlow, Bucks; grammar school; History and Politics at Trinity College, Dublin; joined R5 just as her journo dad was retiring from the BBC) asked the hypothetical ‘what do you do if you live in a flat in Macclesfield?’

    Something was revealed in the manner in which she invoked this exotic, faraway land where the noble savage struggles against all odds to plug his rope into the charge point.

    Bubble? Wot bubble?

    P.S. In other important news, Serena Williams has lost four major finals since becoming a mum

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  10. ToobiWan says:

    Carl Benjamin and problems with the BBC.

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  11. Guest Who says:

    BBC Moaning emole:

    Polluting cars ban

    Petrol and diesel cars were already set to be banned from sale in the UK from 2040, but that ban is being brought forward to 2035. Some hybrid vehicles will also now be included on the banned list. The government says the more ambitious target is part of choosing “a cleaner, greener future” for the country and will help achieve virtually zero carbon emissions by the middle of the century.

    The move is designed to attract favourable attention to the launch of COP26 later – that’s the United Nations climate summit being held in Glasgow in November. Sir David Attenborough will also appear at the event, but government hopes for positive headlines have been overshadowed by any angry intervention from the summit’s former head.

    Says it all really.

    Claire O’Neill was recently sacked by the prime minister and she has not pulled her punches in a letter this morning. She accuses Boris Johnson of failing to show leadership and failing to deliver the money and manpower he promised to support her work. A source close to her says he is merely paying “lip service” to action on climate change. Downing Street hasn’t replied to her accusations and put her sacking down to the desire to have a minister in charge of COP26 instead.

    As does this.

    Find out more about COP26, or watch Reality Check answer the question, should I buy an electric car? Friends of the Earth say the government should have gone further, bringing the ban forward to 2030, but motoring organisation the AA thinks 2035 might be too ambitious.

    I would not use the BBC to reality check boiling an egg.

    Caucus hold-up (Dems’ latest cluster-FUBAR)

    Results have been delayed in the first big event of the US election campaign. Voters in Iowa flocked to more than 1,600 schools, libraries and churches across 99 counties on Monday to pick who they want to be the Democratic candidate for president, but the answer from the caucuses has been held up by apparent “inconsistencies” in the reporting. The state’s Democratic party stressed the unprecedented hold-up was not due to a “hack or an intrusion”.

    Follow our live page for all the latest, while this helpful guide explains how a caucus works. Here we profile those hoping to take on Donald Trump.

    Jon, Anthony and Katty still having a group hug.

    Terror sentencing challenge

    As promised in Monday’s News Daily – and following Sunday’s attack in Streatham – the government has announced plans for urgent legislation to ensure those convicted of terror offences are no longer automatically freed from prison at the half-way point of their sentences.

    However, a former independent reviewer of terror legislation, Lord Carlile, is warning the plans go too far by including current as well as future inmates and “may be in breach of the law”. Any attempt to lengthen the jail terms of those already sentenced will inevitably be challenged in the courts, he told BBC Newsnight. He argues the focus should instead be on tougher restrictions on released prisoners, such as the reintroduction of control orders, scrapped in 2011.

    Just after giving a Labour MP full BBC to serve both barrels for not doing enough, the BBC flips to worry about the consequences.

    How many people are currently serving sentences for terror offences? Find out here – and read more about how efforts to rehabilitate them are meant to work.

    ‘Meant’al.

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  12. tarien says:

    You know ladies and gentle men, Human beings only have a limited time and energy with which to live their lives. It follows that the time and energy a society dedicates to the pursuit of material wealth, the less it will have for other things, such as community or political engagement. Taken to its extreme, such a society may end up extremely affluent, comprising individuals who are alienated, disengaged and lonely-and not so rich at all. As indeed we are experiencing today.
    Further The truth is that among us live almost an entire generation that may live in the lands of plenty and conspicuous consumption but our children are deeply and traumatically unhappy, concerned with trivia like the rest of us and often increasingly unable to cope with the harsh realities of life and finding solace instead in ‘celebrity’ and cultic designer fashions and the impact of drugs. The pressure from this aided by the avarice media adds to their confusion with the world. With austerity measures exacerbating the situation our society of plentiful conspicuous consumption is slowly but surely collapsing around us all and nobody seems to give a dam, or know what to do about it. Any answers?

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  13. Guest Who says:

    http://isthebbcbiased.blogspot.com/2020/02/americast.html

    Love the Xmas tree comment.

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  14. Guest Who says:

    Not, possibly, due to garner the usual BBC free publicity?

    http://isthebbcbiased.blogspot.com/2020/02/advertisement.html

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  15. Guest Who says:

    From the ITBB Open thread:

    Charlie4 February 2020 at 11:12
    The BBC has launched its first multiplayer video game aimed at a attracting younger, smartphone-using children, even as the broadcaster faces a squeeze on resources and cuts hundreds of jobs.

    How on earth is video game publishing within the BBC remit? Who thought this was a good way to spend some of the licence fee?

    They think this is the way to attract new viewers at a young age. It won’t.

    It is also… ‘interesting’, what they have money for, and when, and not, and need a top up.

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    • LynetteO says:

      The BBC World Service Business Daily programme “is the future hydrogen” – https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/w3csy7fh only talked about its production from hydro carbons and electrolysis.

      The other alternative methods were ignored. For example the many methods that Israel is developing
      https://israelactive.com/?s=Hydrogen

      But the BBC is reluctant to report anything good coming out of Israel.

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    • ToobiWan says:

      I may have mentioned this before GW, in respect to the CBBC video, fronted by the achingly funny Nish Kumar (not) but as Stalin said, “give me the child for four years and I will plant a seed that will never be uprooted”
      If the BBC is to continue, it needs to indoctrinate the next generation of prospective licence payers.

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      • thehoiman says:

        Unfortunately for the Beeb, I would doubt most children would even bother to look away from their favourite YouTube channels and/or Twitch streamers to even notice it. Only a very small fraction who happen to be from “progressive” families will watch under the duress of their parents.

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  16. JimS says:

    Jeremy Vine has a caller on with an electric motor bike. He is pleased because it only takes him a couple of hours to charge it up to travel 100 miles. My car only takes 30 seconds to fuel it up to do the same.

    One of Vine’s other caller loads false praise on Harrabin. I wasn’t sure if he was taking the michael.

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  17. theleftwilleatitself says:

    @Anon
    “The difference between Nazi state propoganda and BBC is that the Nazis didn’t make its population pay for it under pain of imprisonment.” ????

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Now that is very True . The similarity in the way bbc propaganda and national socialist propaganda infect every day life is frightening . Both organisations had / have agendas not disclosed to those they are infecting .

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      • theleftwilleatitself says:

        Fedup, have you seen the story about how Spurs’ lawyers have contacted al beeb regarding some One Show programme recently that put the club in a terrible light? It was to celebrate National Holocaust Day.
        They really went to town on us implying the club and fans are racist, and fans and the club are up in arms. Apparently they even had that tosser David Baddiel on just for some impartiality ????
        One negative story a week for THFC for the next year from al beeb methinks! Just for even questioning their wonderful output ✌️

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        • Fedup2 says:

          Theleft
          There has to be ‘ racist chanting ‘ whether there is or isn’t . One of the unspoken rituals of following footy is the love hate relationship that real footy fans have with their own team – yet alone the opposition .

          It’s more complicated than the whitees in the BBC who just wanna leap up and down screaming ‘ witch ‘ or in modern language ‘ racist ‘

          As footy got more expensive and ‘ family friendly ‘ the atmosphere went straight to space . Go any big club and hear the away supporters chanting ‘ is this a library ?’ – which they very often are . Seating and stewards and spotters killed it off too .

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          • theleftwilleatitself says:

            Fedup, al beeb hate English footy with a passion as it’s not diverse enough, gay enough or muslim enough ????
            I caught a bit of MOTD2 on YouTube from Sunday and Jermaine Jenas, Micah Richards and some Indian woman were on. All non-white, but do we complain ???? The woman presenter said “the last time such and such ‘lost’ a penalty” when she clearly should have said ‘missed’. But she’s the right gender and colour so that’s the most important thing, not whether she knows what she is talking about ????
            And don’t get me started on Kane’s rainbow captain’s armband in the run up to Christmas ????
            Do we get any thanks? No they just want more.
            Also the left are trying to ban ‘hurtful’ chants now – like “sign on, sign on…” to Liverpool fans because it was sung in the lead up to Christmas when some people are at their most vulnerable ????
            Honestly, football fans will not put up with this nonsense and it will not end well for the diversity, agenda-pushing left ????

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            • Fedup2 says:

              The left –
              ( not BBC – just footy ) I’ve been to anfield as an away supporter a few times and the ‘ sign on ‘ tune always goes down well .

              When the BBC go on about the Kop and singing ‘ you’re never walk alone ‘ – they play it on a tape before the game starts . Anfield can be as dead as old Trafford , Stamford Bridge or the Arsenal …. that’s not shown on TV

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  18. Dystopian says:

    Good question. What IS the answer?

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  19. Emmanuel Goldstein says:

    Regarding all these terrorists being released early and being radicalised in prison.

    We outsource various services already so why not pay prisons in other Countries to take these terrorists and have them serve their (full) terms in foreign prisons.
    I’m sure a young jihadi wannabe would think twice if, instead of having a cushy time in a British prison where nobody in authority dare say or do anything for fear of being called racist, they were instead put into prisons in places like China, Albania, Venezuela, Cambodia and the like.
    Many of these Countries could do with the money for this service and the prisoners might have more to think about than getting themselves radicalised.

    Another possibility is that any of them found guilty of terrorism offences should be deported,along with all of their family unless the family themselves reported that they were worried about the behaviour of the wannabe terrorist.

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    • Cane Corso says:

      Excellent idea, Emmanuel
      The costs could easily come from our aid budget.
      God with us

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  20. scribblingscribe says:

    Wonderful piece about the BBC on Comments Central which includes the line:

    ” … Boris Johnson will soon discover that the real obstacle to Brexit progress is not Michel Barnier et al, but rather Britain’s own publicly-funded, very bitter state broadcaster. ”

    It has garnered a 99% approval rating.

    https://commentcentral.co.uk/85447-2/

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Scrib
      I disagree with that because all that poison propaganda the BBC vomited out in the last 3 plus years in even remotely work .

      I think the sad thing is that because stuff happens people forget the ‘project fear’ the remorseless ant brexit messages which in the end gifted the Tories an 80 dear majority ….

      The BBC is , hopefully , embarking on the game of musical chairs when so many will be looking to preserve their previous pension rights that it will be a horror show for them.

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  21. gb123 says:

    I was doing some mindless surfing for a meme when I came across this. It seems a perfect description of the TV Licence.
    S0jB7P7.jpg
    Credit: https://www.minds.com/newsfeed/1071306712688443392

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  22. Sluff says:

    The world’s finest nationalised healthcare system has only gone and done it again.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-51369881

    ‘A culture of avoidance and denial’ allowed a breast surgeon to conduct botched and unnecessary operations on hundreds of women’…….’offloading of responsibility at every level’

    Personally, I’d take the profit motive and shareholders every time over political considerations, jobs for the boys, circling the wagons and total non-accountability.

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  23. G says:

    Twato just:
    My oh my, why is Boris supporting the so-called Climate Change issue? Share a platform with the Marxist BBC’s climate Representative, Sir David Attenborough?
    Is Boris so obtuse that he cannot see the contrary evidence? Or, is he, (as every other leader) been sold the apparently legitimate increased tax avenues/benefits in going along with the nonsense?
    ‘Thumbs down’ very much. He’ll be called ‘King Boris Canute’ soon at this rate.

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    • Up2snuff says:

      G, there was an excellent radio programme on BBC Radio 4 on Sunday just after the BBC’s Chief Sneerleader had done his bit for TWiTW. 1.30pm ‘The Purity Spiral’ if you wish to listen again on BBC Noises, as our Fed calls it.

      Right at the end, Gavin Haynes posed this question for the future by looking back at the past: “When will the Witch Trials end?” “When people stop believing in witches.”

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    • Dystopian says:

      IIRC, G, someone on here said that Boris’s girlfriend is a climate activist.

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  24. Fedup2 says:

    Sometimes the Biased BBC just gives and gives . Last week they could not distinguish between two black basketball players – one of whom said farewell to life by dying in a helicopter crash – now they have two black Labour Female MP who got wrongly labelled – dawn butler being one and some one called de covena … just keeps giving .

    On the upside for the biased BBC – adds to the minutes of black faces being put on the TV to hit some nonsense diversity target .

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  25. StewGreen says:

    Something interesting, it seems for decade that had been a group of Green-Totalitarians who monitor newspaper/blog comments for when people call Green-Totalitarians “eco-f@scists” etc.
    and then report the hell out of them until they get their totalitarian way.

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  26. andyjsnape says:

    This warehouse seems to be an issue for the beeb
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-essex-51362134

    Why is it important that its a warehouse, this sounds like most blocks of flats unfortunately.

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  27. Hereward Wake says:

    “The BBC is the glue of the nation” – says the Guardian. Hmm, personally I never had much success with glues: I haven’t found one yet that didn’t come unstuck sooner or later. Looks like it might the same story with the BBC.

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Hereward?
      Does the Guardian think that 17 million people still all sit down and watch the new Morecambe and Wise Show .
      The BBC is more like a glue solvent than anything else .By pushing itself social change agenda just alienates the people who see it . Hence going elsewhere for news and entertainment .

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    • Not Gwent says:

      “The BBC is the glue of the nation”

      It poisons. It divides.

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    • Doublethinker says:

      Well shit sticks to blankets.

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  28. Up2snuff says:

    Do you remember all that fuss that the Left/Libby/Socialist mob made about a report into possible Russian interference into UK General Elections? Such a fuss. Bordering on hysteria. The BBC joined in.

    Funny how that has all gone away.

    The Cabinet now know what is in the report. I guess that the appropriate House of Commons (HoC) Select Committee have seen the report, now that the Chairs have been elected. I wonder when we are going to hear a summary of what the report contains? BBC?

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Up2
      The downside of publication is that we ll have the BBC rolling out Mr Grieve and his bloody self righteous EU crap again – he having been chair of the security committee before the electorate told him to go and spend more time with his parliamentary pension ….

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    • ToobiWan says:

      Talking of Russian “involvement”. Like a dog with a bone!
      https://thefederalist.com/2020/02/03/schiff-trump-will-sell-alaska-to-russia-if-we-dont-impeach-him/

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      • Fedup2 says:

        This morning there was a confused R4 documentary about how the NHS is now better at keeping stab victims alive by changes in transfusion practices .

        It didn’t grasp the feral nature of those involved. It seems that more stab victims are surviving – which will only lead to the development of more effective ways of black kids killing other black kids on the street .

        On the upside perhaps those who might be considered real victims and worthy of survival eg Streatham might well benefit from all this research .
        Apparently the NHS has a ‘ stabbing czar ‘

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      • fakenewswatcher says:

        Toobi – Schiff sounds mentally deranged!

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        • ToobiWan says:

          Like all of the Democrats, Schiff suffers from Trump Derangement Syndrome, FNS. A $32million investigation cleared Trump of any involvement with Russia; they now need another investigation to see if there is any Democrat involvement with America!
          I’m waiting to see if Pelosi carries out her threat to resign should Trump be acquitted. Whatever’s happened to the left of late needs to be fatal!

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      • Doublethinker says:

        I think it is very likely that Schiff is insane. Surely any sane politician , even one in a safe district, wouldn’t claim in the Senate and on live TV that the President was going to sell Alaska!! Even the most credulous voter will fall about laughing at such a ludicrous claim. It makes him and his party look idiotic. If he can’t see that it does so must mean that he is deranged.

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  29. StewGreen says:

    BBC news across all networks every hour
    Headline #1 .. Here’s a huge list of things Boris has just done for Climate
    Headline #2 .. Here’s a long bit from Claire Perry/O’Neill saying that Boris never does anything for Climate

    .. would any other network
    run such incongruous headlines ?

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  30. fakenewswatcher says:

    The ‘Neue Zuericher Zeitung’ reports that Manfred Weber said in the EU parliament that Brexit cannot be allowed to be seen to have succeeded, or this would be the beginning of the end for the EU. Britain leaving was a mistake, so it would have to suffer consequences. Other member states thus had to be scared off coming up with similar ideas.
    This interview was quoted from ‘Die Welt’ this morning. NZZ observes that such statements were not signs of emanating from a strong and confident organisation, but a union that fears for its future.
    Indeed.

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    • Up2snuff says:

      fnw, perhaps coronavirus may have different plans for the EU and the world economy? It will have an impact, there’s no doubt, as will today’s capitulation to the Green Lobby by Bojo. The future is likely to be peppered now with little economic hiccoughs.

      Some will affect all nations; others maybe just a few or maybe impact on just one region of the globe.

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  31. Guest Who says:

    I know this ‘might’ just be a wrap sign, but why does the bbc still have all these EUloons on news cycle rota still?

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  32. StewGreen says:

    R4 History prog talking about
    The London Metro Elite vs the rest of the country

    .. they started with idea of HoL could move to York
    ..which echoes Roman Britain where York was joint capital with London

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    • Doublethinker says:

      I would welcome it moving to the north but I have in mind somewhere like the centre of Bradford so that the noble lords and ladies can feel the full benefit of diversity and enjoy the close proximity to a hot bed of radical Islam.

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      • Up2snuff says:

        Dt, we could send them to Coventry. It’s close to Warwick which was a bit of power base a few centuries back. Coventry is the City closest to the geographical centre of the UK, I am told.

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    • StewGreen says:

      Claims : There used to be the traditional party of government the King’s court party the Tories
      vs the The provincial groups nicknamed the Whigs
      Tories = landed
      Whigs = moneyed
      later Whigs were regarded as the “City of London money”
      so the geography switched around : Tories =country

      Early in 1688 the Tories expressed opposition in the Europe idea, the way the King kept fighting war there.
      City business people seen as Anywheres, … countryside seen as Somewheres

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  33. pugnazious says:

    The BBC trying to be not biased….surely…or having its cake and eating it…these two reports bang-up next to each other on the frontpage…In one Boris is bowing down to the climate lobby with a hugely, massively, ruinously expensive policy, the second he doesn’t know or care about the climate….

    boris-cc.jpg

    So Boris makes a ‘bombshell’ announcement [certainly for the car industry] and the BBC reports it on the frontpage, of course it’s good news for the Climate Change lobby so hot news for the BBC, however they fail to question the costs…both in actual cost of implementing it with all the added infrastructure [compare broadband…costs billions and billions and years of huge disruption to the roads as they close them all off…what’s going to happen when they electrify the transport network?] as well as cost to the car industry and the public who have to buy these expensive cars….and note there’s also this which seems to have gone unnoticed by the BBC…from the Mail…

    ‘Britain’s energy regulator unveils plan to rip out gas central heating from EVERY home and put 10 million electric vehicles on the road within 10 years’

    How much?

    LBC is talking money….

    Whilst Roger Harrabin is more interested in making headlines with smears against the PM…

    ‘COP26: PM ‘doesn’t get’ climate change, says sacked president’

    Again not reporting the truth about this woman’s sacking [she was very difficult to work with, abused her staff,…official complaints sent in, and was too in-hock to the climate lobby] but is reporting constantly and loudly her attacks on Boris whch are remarkable. This is a woman who says the climate conference in Glasgow is vital and yet here she is trying to savagely undermine Boris who will lead the charge…here’s what Harrabin’s final thoughts are…rather telling…

    ‘Her words are likely to resonate round the world, although she is not the first climate diplomat to express this sort of frustration – and she’s unlikely to be the last.’.

    So as O’Neill shrilly denounces Boris her attack will resonate around the wworld…..

    ‘The prime minister admitted he “doesn’t really get” climate change, the former head of this year’s key summit on the issue has said.
    Mrs O’Neill told the BBC there was a “huge lack of leadership and engagement” from the government.
    Ms O’Neill, the former Conservative minister for energy and clean growth, said people should be wary of the prime minister’s promises.

    “My advice to anybody to whom Boris is making promises – whether it is voters, world leaders, ministers, employees, or indeed family members – is to get it in writing, get a lawyer to look at it and make sure the money’s in the bank,” she told BBC Radio 4’s Today programme.
    “The prime minister has made incredibly warm statements about this over the years. He’s also admitted to me that he doesn’t really understand it. He ‘doesn’t really get it’, I think is what he said.”

    She said the UK’s climate efforts were at “Oxford United levels when we need to be Liverpool if we are going to do what the world actually needs us to do”.

    In a letter to Mr Johnson after she was sacked, Mrs O’Neill accused him of promising money and people, but failing to deliver either.
    Mrs O’Neill wrote: “The cabinet sub-committee on climate that you promised to chair, and which I was to attend, has not met once.

    “In the absence of your promised leadership… departments have fought internal Whitehall battles over who is responsible and accountable for (the conference)”.

    She said at this stage, the UK should have clear actions to communicate to the diplomatic network, an agreed plan of ministerial international engagements led by the prime minister and a roadmap for the proposed “year of action”.

    “As of last Friday, we did not,” she said.’

    Pretty extensive coverage from Harrabin who states…

    ‘The timing of the letter could not be worse as Mr Johnson is launching his strategy for the conference on Tuesday with the help of Sir David Attenborough.’

    So telling all the world’s politicians heading to the conference that they can’t trust a word Boris says and that he doesn’t have a clue about climate and no intention of really doing anything is her way of helping out and ensuring the conference is a success….it actually seems that this is a very bitter woman who is prepared to sacrifice the burning planet [lol] in order to make herself feel better with a bile-filled, scornful attack on Boris….all helped by an idiotic Harrabin who is also bizarrely undermining the very conference that he wants so desperately to succeed.

    The BBC’s climate change coverage is as ever, corrupt, dishonest and going to cost us a very big fortune.

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    • Fedup2 says:

      I think the bitter Mrs O Neill is auditioning for a new career with the Labour Party . With such a kiss and tell attitude she should fit in well . Seems she missed the time when the PM was a bit preoccupied with a traitor Parliament .

      As for the diesel ban -I wonder if BoJo will be PM for the next 15 years to see such a dumb idea through .

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  34. Cane Corso says:

    Fedup2
    You’ve asked for folks on this site to suggest ideas for your contribution to any inquiry into how the Beeb should evolve. A brilliant idea. Apart from the obviously pithier or fruitier comments could I kick off (if I haven’t missed anyone before me)? Simply:
    The 9 TV channels should be subscription (the well-funded and commercially astute Beeb could determine how to bundle this).
    The 10 national radio channels should be advert/patronage/donation. Classic FM survives.
    All local radio stations should be sold – they have done untold damage to inventive local media.
    The 2 (I think) orchestras should be patron supported – maybe along with Stormzy for the sake of diversity.

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Cane
      Thank you – you’re the first to make a suggestion . I still think the key is the proportionality – or lack of it – I’m putting people who don’t have a TV licence through the criminal court process . In 2020 that is disproportionate to the ‘ sin’ and rooted in a socialist dogma that the State Broadcaster is important – which before the internet it was – but thankfully no longer .

      The targeting of victims by capita and performance related pay also needs a look .

      Diff subject

      A blessed ‘ health professional’ who carried out surgery without control is getting the ‘ grave ‘ BBC lead news treatment . But it doesn’t say what his motivation for carrying out breast surgery was ?

      Money -personal status ? I don’t know and the BBC isn’t saying .

      I have little confidence in the medical profession after some serious failures . Reports like this and staffordshire just build on that . Since the medics operate a code of silence one can only guess as the other evils they cover up each day .

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      • Cane Corso says:

        Fed
        I sincerely hope that decriminalisation of non-payment of the licence fee starts soon – before little old ladies get hauled before the beaks. Then it’s Review in 2022 and the new Charter on 2027. Those dates mean we’re in the 21st century O Beeboids. Get real.
        And I did have major surgery myself last year. Still not sure I needed it.

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  35. Emmanuel Goldstein says:

    I’m hearing many talking heads on tv saying laws cannot be made and applied retrospectively when they are chatting about terrorists getting out half way through their sentences because they have been good boys in prison.

    What happened a couple of months ago when our ‘supreme court’ came out with a new law then applied it retrospectively to say that proroguing parliament was illegal, all aided and abetted by the bent speaker.
    Was that also illegal.

    They pick and choose what they want and as in ‘Alice’, words mean what they want them to.
    And we let them get away with everything.

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    • Fedup2 says:

      EG
      This was put to Shabi on Toady this morning into the respective law change to “get “ the chaps who murdered a black student in south London over 30 years ago .
      Oh this is different – says Shabi – it’s not nice to resentence Islamic terrorists . So police surveillance crews have to wait out side the prison gates waiting for allahs monsters to come out and then follow them until they go on a stabbing spree or drive into crowds .
      My death penalty idea hasn’t featured yet . I’d also be looking at the families .

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      • Charlie Farley says:

        Fedup2
        Agree with you on the Death Penalty, needs bringing back for these people. Shabi is a nasty piece of work …..what did she do to end up in the Lords ? and is she another one like Alibaba Brown that was going to leave if Boris got in and Brexit happened ?

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      • theisland says:

        Nigel Farage is discussing this on LBC and it is depressing. Everyone is far too weak and soft. Someone brought up the idea of military prisons and NF said it wasn’t practicable. Death penalty/deportations are the only sensible options imo.

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  36. pugnazious says:

    Ooooh…so near…the BBC’s David Shukman on the news bulletin told us that Boris was banning the sale of petrol and diesel cars [but first gave top billing to David Attenborough saying we’re all going to die….] but ‘One thing left unsaid….’…yes…yes…what, what’s been left unsaid? Maybe the cost of this brave new electrified world? No? Not important?

    No….what was left unsaid by Boris was any response to the ‘stunning criticism’ of the sacked Claire O’Neill who unfortunately played to stereotype as the woman scorned and has heaped massive amounts of abuse onto Boris much to the delight of BBC journalists who report it in full rather than actually report real news like the cost of Project Whizz.

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  37. Darcy3 says:

    Our permanently offended minority in action:

    Horrifying video of Afghan woman cowering in a hole as she is stoned to death by a furious crowd shouting ‘hit her’ and ‘Allahu Akbar’ is investigated by rights group

    The clip shows a woman being mercilessly pelted with stones in front of a crowd
    Activists and an Afghan presidential spokesman and have blamed the Taliban
    The country’s human rights commission is investigating the video’s origins

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7964797/Rights-group-investigates-horrifying-video-Afghan-woman.html

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  38. G.W.F. says:

    Darcy3

    Expect a massive turn out of feminists protesting this atrocity with a balanced discussion on the BBC.

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  39. ToobiWan says:

    Ubiased BBC election video. I wonder if US media devote as much time and expense to UK elections?
    Why would they care?

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  40. ToobiWan says:

    UK takes post Brexit seat at WTO. Jeff Taylor.

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  41. StewGreen says:

    The BBC and Evening Standard say sorry for mislabeling pictures of Black MPs
    The BBC Parliament channel briefly mistook Labour’s Marsha de Cordova for Dawn Butler in an on-screen caption during a debate on Monday afternoon. Later that evening, the Evening Standard newspaper reported on the mistake, but accidentally did so using a photograph of another Labour MP Bell Ribeiro-Addy

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  42. Charlie Farley says:

    R4 18.30 , PhilWang so called comedy ,
    Anti White
    Anti British
    Anti Everything we care about
    And we pay for this ?
    Turned Off …..that’s better !

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