367 Responses to Start the Week 2 March 2020

  1. andyjsnape says:

    Letter from Africa: Fake news and Nigeria’s media
    “reports” the beeb
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-51706840

    Funny the beeb doing a report on fake news, kettle black

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  2. Guest Who says:

    …asks the Champion who gets into fights in studios all the time.

    A few are noticing that ‘reports’ thus far are high on inference and low on context. Hence why she is invited on… as well.

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    • john in cheshire says:

      Tommy Robinson has been charged with assault. He’s in court at the beginning of April.

      The reason for his arrest? He detained an ‘asian’ male in centre parcs after his daughter was sexually assaulted in the children’s pool by this ‘asian’ man ( who apparently was in centre parcs with two other men, with no families or children with them).

      The man tried to leave centre parcs and Tommy restrained him. Any father would do the same.

      After three hours the police arrived. The ‘asian’ man complained Tommy assaulted him. The ‘asian’ man wasn’t arrested, Tommy was.

      How disgusting.

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      • theisland says:

        If there was natural justice in our land, as I believe there used to be (I could be wrong!), the police would have arrested TR but not charged him. They would also have arrested the ‘groper’ and his accomplices and confiscated their phones for investigation.
        It all boils down to the same question of who governs us. We should be ruled by common sense and not by the others [pick your group].

        The timing of this is suspicious.

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      • Fedup2 says:

        On the reports – and what TR is saying – it is difficult to understand why the man against an indecent assault allegation on a child was not arrested .

        The result of this is that the little girl will now be ‘pressured ‘ by the police to make a statement in order to decide whether said man be arrested and interviewed . – and whether a prosecution should take place .
        It’s easy to jump to conclusions – but it looks like TR was set up .

        The prosecution will be extended like the last one to increase emotional and economic pressure on TR – as well as undermining support for him .

        So the 2nd of April will be a 5 minute appearance . The judge will order that the name of the accuser be with held and other various ‘reporting restrictions ‘ imposed .
        Those attending the court will be met by riot police looking for scalps and ‘selected ‘ bits of film showing a particular version of events will go into the public media .

        The trial may also be moved to make support more difficult . Maybe they’ll hold it in the Muslim terrorist wing of Belmarsh . It all stinks .

        The next part of the process will be to accuse him of breaching bail , arrest and prison again . Maybe this time they’ll get him to ‘suicide ‘ as his children will be undefended .

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    • Doublethinker says:

      Whether this report is true or not, or whether, as is likely, Tommy or his family was attacked first and if he retaliated it was in self defence, the point is that Tommy would be better off living abroad and leading his campaign from there using social media. If he stays in the UK he will be constantly subjected to state sponsored harassment . The police will never be off his back.He will never receive a fair trial , always get the maximum sentence and be incarcerated in the worst possible conditions. For his sake and that of his family, emigration is his best option.

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      • Fedup2 says:

        Double – I think he’d do well getting his family and himself to America and applying for political asylum as a ‘refugee ‘….

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        • G.W.F. says:

          I suppose Priti the Home Secretary has no say over this behaviour from her cops.

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          • Up2snuff says:

            G.W.F., the first stop these days for Chief Constable supervision are the Police & Crime Commissioners.

            I have my doubts about the value of the said P&CC. I would prefer a good Home Secretary to be robust with Chief Constables and to have them all on speed dial in case of the need to ‘have a quiet word’ in full on Terence Donovan style.

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    • StewGreen says:

      We weren’t there so we don’t know what happened.
      And neither should the police arrest every man just cos someone says they are a groper.
      I bet loads of female shoplifters try to deflect police onto the shop security guard with such an accusation.
      But what alternative explanation have the newspapers offered ?? anyone know ?

      It not believable if they offered not context explanation at all.

      Like TR certainly doesn’t hit people in public cos of the colour of their skin
      or even if they verbally attack him when he’s alone.
      He has hit actual attackers before, but always gave a warning.

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  3. AsISeeIt says:

    I see the BBC’s postergirl Vicky Derbyshire is still tugging at our heartstrings, rattling the communal begging bowl for the feckless, shiftless and those determined to live outside of social norms yet benefit from the taxes of the wider community.

    Under the click heading ‘Heartless bereavement laws mean I don’t count’ we learn a woman (who, let’s be honest, will be the best case and most palatable example the BBC could find) ‘is ineligible for support payments, as she was not married to her partner of nine years.’

    Well, ought we not ask the question were the couple too ‘heartless’ to tie the knot? You know, get married, civil partnership, whatever?

    Every social metric, every societal statistic tells us the children of regular traditional marriage fare far better than those children deprived of a father or mother.

    Yet every liberal-minded BBC commentary and every social campaign which the BBC endorse seeks to relegate and undermine marriage in public policy.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-51676780

    No one seems to call this out.

    Our supposedly conservative government seems about to give way to the liberals:

    ‘A Department for Work and Pensions spokesperson said: “Losing a loved one is devastating and we are carefully considering the court judgments on cohabiting couples with children.”‘

    Who cares how much it costs the taxpayer or how much the further erosion of marriage and the family in public policy priority costs our children?

    ‘Follow the BBC’s Victoria Derbyshire programme on Facebook and Twitter – and see more of our stories…’

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    • Deborah says:

      I read this story somewhere on line at least a couple of weeks ago. Whilst I feel sorry for the lady, she and her partner chose not to formalise their relationship. That was their decision. But this is the BBC and in this case Victoria D seeing a story and thinking they can make a story out of it….. eventually.

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      • AsISeeIt says:

        The more I think about this campaign the more it bothers me. Assuming all the various family benefits are made available to cohabiting partners – how is the supposed relationship going to be proved? We have enough trouble with bogus marriages cheating the immigration system without opening the benefits system to the risk of bogus relationships. Seriously, what’s so wrong with a registry office marriage? And if these people (invariably women according to the BBC) object to the partiarchy as represented by the institution of marriage (as I have read about in previous BBC reports), then how come they suddenly want all the patriarchal benefits of the welfare system?

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  4. Guest Who says:

    Indeed it is.

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  5. Guest Who says:

    OT, but J’Obsworth was family.

    Just… the comments to the appeal to reason at the end ????

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    • Terminal Moraine says:

      Guest, there’s a lot of this thinking going on these days and it’s terribly muddled. It pretends the only relevance to phenomena is an arbitrarily set origin, thus doing away with whatever cultural practices and historical precedent are deemed unacceptable.

      “Nothing really comes from anywhere, you see sausages are made of animals, animals are made of atoms and atoms come from the big bang so fried breakfasts are as much Pleiadian as they are British.”

      (Exceptions to the rule include drill music, the Islamic influence on civilisation etc etc which absolutely have a rich and defined culture)

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    • john in cheshire says:

      I think the wee jobby had been watching the Scandinavian Airlines advert. I believe that many Swedes are boycotting that airline because of the way it insulted Sweden.

      I’ve boycotted the wee jobby for years. Not only do I not want to listen to him I can’t stand looking at his face. As the saying goes, a face made for radio.

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  6. Guest Who says:

    “Surprised I tell you… surprised!”

    https://conservativewoman.co.uk/johnsons-lost-appetite-for-a-battle-with-the-bbc/?

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  7. Guest Who says:

    The media.

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  8. Jeff says:

    Our media, across the board, are an absolute disgrace. You can’t trust any of them. The Guardian is sanctimonious and full of left wing pseuds and the tabloids are little more than tales of airhead celebrity tittle tattle.
    Someone sent me The Sun’s response to the Tommy Robinson / Paedo scuffle at Centre Parcs. It was the usual hatchet job.
    Terms like “loud mouth” “rabble rouser” and “far right” preceded the malicious and limited information that he “had assaulted” someone.
    Okay, I don’t expect much from The Sun. It’s a low brow, toxic, red top rag. If they get most of the spelling correct they feel they should get an award…
    For reasons best known to themselves they forgot to put this incident into context; ie that before this “assault” Tommy’s eight year old daughter had just been groped by a middle age paedo’ in the children’s paddling pool. You’d have thought it might have given their readers a little insight, but no…
    Although suffering from the regular collective media amnesia when ever he’s mentioned, they do remember to tell us his correct name; Stephen Yaxley Lennon. Why?

    As my old gran always used to say about The Sun “I wouldn’t wipe me arse on it.”
    She had a way with words…

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    • BRISSLES says:

      I’ve always said that most of the programmes on the tele are made with the Sun reader in mind.

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  9. digg says:

    Anyone else catch the segment on the BBC sending a reporter to Bishop Aukland to laud the regeneration attempts being made there this morning.

    Its almost as if the BBC have tumbled to the fact that quite a lot of the UK is “Up North” all of a sudden.

    Of course nothing to do with the election results there!

    I care to bet that most BBC-ites thought that Bishop Aukland was in New Zealand before the election results!

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  10. Emmanuel Goldstein says:

    This latest Tommy situation should come as no surprise.

    The msm, government and police have demonstrated many times that when it comes to supporting either a true heroic patriot or child molesting, raping, gangbanging, drug pushing, bombing, murdering, benefit claiming, lying enrichers, they will go against anyone who dares to go against their pets by simply saying the truth.

    What a disgusting gang of people we have in charge.
    True enemies of the UK.
    I can’t understand why they behave the way they do, it’s against all decent reasoning.

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  11. digg says:

    Is everyone ready for the upcoming treat from the BBC “Noughts and Crosses”?

    From the trailers the storyline seems to be one of inverting the BBC’s perceived view of Blacks and Whites in society EG. the Whites become the underclass rather than the superiors as they “obviously” are at the moment… feral gangs of white thugs on the rampage etc. etc. No blacks to fraternise with whites etc. (Except on TV ads!) I could go on…..

    In other words like South Africa.

    I can’t think of a better way for the BBC to stoke up racial divides and ill-feeling than to generate this politically targeted garbage.

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  12. JamesArthur says:

    I heard the start of the same story on R4 that was on yesterday – it seems Al Beeb have commissioned a story on young women that went to become ISIS brides ..what a bunch of …..I wonder why they decided to promote this tosh….and they are surprised nobody listens to them anymore..

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  13. Terminal Moraine says:

    Looks like the BBC doesn’t think white men are at risk of corona virus: Mohammed’s feeling peaky, Mohammed’s worried about dying, but hold on…luckily Mohammed’s working on a cure.

    Unless they’re hoping we’ve all died off from old age anyway

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  14. Deborah says:

    I don’t understand the connection between China and north Italy. Is there industry in the latter which takes Italians to China, or vice versa?
    And what is the connection between north Italy and the U.K. Those Italian towns with the virus don’t appear to be tourist centres and when Jenny Hill stands at the edge of those self isolated towns, there is no snow, so people are not going for the skiing.

    The BBC are happy enough to tell us about teachers at the Guildhall School of Music and other schools who have the virus. We are not being told why people have been visiting north Italy. I feel there are lots of things we are not being told that a decent investigative journalist could ask, if they could be bothered.

    But this is the BBC.

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    • JamesArthur says:

      Deborah
      You are right….I was in ‘northern Italy’ last week and my friends who live there (Italian) have the same view of main stream media as us….They are also losing loads of business from the panic – they lost 90% of their hotel bookings for the next 3 weeks and it may be longer despite being nearer to Austria than these outbreak zones

      It was also explained to me that the reason for the outbreak was poor management by a local hospital that affected a lot of elderly – hence the higher than predicted mortality – but the Government appeared to have used that figure without thinking and caused panic.

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      • Fedup2 says:

        James
        How are you still alive – you were in Italy ?

        Have you locked your self up ?

        Can I catch it from your posts ?

        I’m not taking n anything like the amount of media since Ash Wednesday yet I still get the whiff of hysteria .

        The bloke sitting in 33c last week – I was in 33a was Chinese looking , seemed semi conscious for the whole flight and was wear ing a face mask for a 4 hour flight . Am I going to die ?

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        • Up2snuff says:

          Fed, quick honey and lemon with some aspirin should see you right.

          I posted yesterday how clear honey and the set variety were unavailable at a supermarket on Saturday. Empty space on the shelf and in mid morning, too.

          Was back there today. The Coronavirus panic has obviously caused a run on clear honey. The price has gone up today.

          I’ll get my own coat, thanks.

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  15. JamesArthur says:

    Deborah
    You are right….I was in ‘northern Italy’ last week and my friends who live there (Italian) have the same view of main stream media as us….They are also losing loads of business from the panic – they lost 90% of their hotel bookings for the next 3 weeks and it may be longer despite being nearer to Austria than these outbreak zones

    It was also explained to me that the reason for the outbreak was poor management by a local hospital that affected a lot of elderly – hence the higher than predicted mortality – but the Government appeared to have used that figure without thinking and caused panic.

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  16. BRISSLES says:

    God Almighty, what sort of intelligence do the journalists of today have ?

    Listening to the questions being asked of the Prime Minister in his address this morning on the Coronavirus, I just sat there going ‘oh for God’s sake’. Most were the sort of questions that simply couldn’t be answered because who knows what the numbers of infected will be over what time !

    Like, “what sort of advice can you give to people to give their fridges stocked without panic buying” – (answer, don’t panic buy.)

    Like, ” what can the government do for those suffering hardship by not being able to work if they contract the virus”. (Jesus !)

    Like, ” what can the government do to reassure the elderly and vulnerable if they are frightened about the 1% dying”. (like what?)

    Like, “what advice do you give care homes in the event of an outbreak”. (use your bloody common sense – most care homes have outbreaks in the winter).

    And so it went on. Whatever happened to COMMON SENSE, have we really got to the stage where adults need to be told what to do ?

    Pathetic.

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    • john in cheshire says:

      I’d suggest the solution is to not give press conferences and if you have to, don’t take questions.

      Also, engage with us, the normal citizens of our country, by means of YouTube with live conversations. I think Prime Minister Johnson had already done this, I’ve seen clips. Isolating the lying press has worked for President Trump and it will work for Prime Minister Johnson and his team.

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  17. Dover Sentry says:

    BBC Online News:

    “Choppy waters of Brexit threaten Danish fishing”

    “It might be hard for the UK to sell, because the EU could impose tariffs, taxing any imports. And he adds with a smile: “Or English people have to learn to eat herring – a lot of it.”

    “But British consumers generally don’t like herring, or the other main species caught in UK waters. The UK exports up to 80% of the fish it catches. So businesses like salmon farmers, and crab and shellfish suppliers, who rely on exporting to the EU, could be vulnerable if there’s no fishing deal and the EU imposes tariffs.”

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-51707962

    Once again, and again, and again…the BBC refuse to illustrate the UK point of view. The BBC hate Brexit. You know what? I hate the BBC.

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    • john in cheshire says:

      If the EU boycott fish caught in our fishing grounds and if EU boats are excluded from fishing in them then given the deleted size of our fishing industry, our fishermen would only be capable of catching the amount of fish etc they do now. I don’t know how much of our fishermen’s catch is sold here in the UK and how much to the EU but it’s possible that it’s enough to meet our national needs without the fishermen suffering hardship.

      The consequences would be that
      1. The EU suffers from lack of fish – not our problem,
      2. Our fishing grounds would have a breathing space to replenish stocks – future wealth for our country
      3. Our fishing industry would have time to increase in size, building new boats, new processing factories and developing new custom outside the EU.

      Also, more of our fishing boats out at sea means more eyes to give early warnings of invasion by illegals ( something I suspect foreign vessels couldn’t give a damn about).

      What’s not to like?

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      • Banania says:

        That is the most sensible response I have seen. There is no need to do anything to pacify the EU. Just let the seas lie fallow and the stocks of fish to recover, while, as you say, we rebuild our devastated industry. It is all good news!

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    • Up2snuff says:

      Dover, the BBC also do not understand tariffs and their effects. They also do not understand marketing because the BBC has had a privileged source of income received under compulsion and threat of fine and prison.

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  18. SkeptikEye says:

    I have a ‘conspiracy theory’ to expound. I reckon this Covid-19 corona virus was genetically engineered by the Greens, Extinction Rebellion and Greta Thunberg.. Because if you notice it only seems to kill old people or people with underlying medical conditions which tend to be older people. When all these ‘troublesome’ older people have died off (they were the ones that voted to leave the EU and are also not keen on mass immigration and are cynical about ‘global warming’). Shed loads of money can be saved in pensions, the burgeoning impact on the NHS, and frees up loads of housing. The government can replace the population with all these immigrants wanting to get in (nobody will complain for fear of the ‘Hate Speech Police’. There will be another referendum about rejoining the EU which will be won by a landslide by the Remainers. Sharia courts will be the norm and it’s goodbye to the Britain we once knew.

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Some liberal clown has already said ‘ stop Brexit ‘ to fight the flu bug …

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    • G says:

      Aye, SkepticEye.

      Chief Medical Health Officer has earlier stated that a mere 1% of those catching Covid-19 will die. Interpretation from the WHO and World figures by those who know based upon existing facts, suggests otherwise.
      For CT scanning, a good assessment of testing compared with the ‘belt & braces’ in the UK:

      Age and mortality:

      Summary:
      Case fatality rate:
      2.3% of 44672 confirmed cases;
      49% of critical cases;
      1% of those < 10 years;
      1% of those 10 – 19;
      8% of those 70 – 79 years;
      14.8% of those 80 years or older.
      I'd much prefer these more accurate figures. Don't know where the CMHO got his figures from but he's clearly wrong or intentionally lying.
      Its clearly a 'Brexiteer' issue. Maybe after the cull of the sane elderly, there will be more calls for another referendum…………

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    • Up2snuff says:

      SEye, 🙂

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    • BRISSLES says:

      Skeptp, in 1976 there was a film called Logans Run, where once the age of 30 was reached you were bumped off !

      I suggest that we start living at 50 and sod all those that are under that age 🙂

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      • Up2snuff says:

        Brissles, my dear old thing, was there not a survey done recently and publicised on the BBC that the happiest age group in the UK is the over-60s?

        🙂

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      • RobRoy says:

        Yeah but we did get to see Jenny Agutter in the buff first :0P

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        • Scroblene says:

          We’ve worked out that people in their seventies are the new fifties people now.

          And March is now the new May, because gardening starts now, not later in spring!

          What’s not to like?

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          • BRISSLES says:

            “We’ve worked out that people in their seventies are the new fifties people now”

            Oh I wish ! some of the blokes I’ve met in their 70’s could be taken for 90 !!

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            • Up2snuff says:

              Brissles, my dear old thing (well, the cricket season is about to start) I haven’t hit the seventies yet but I feel like I’m in my nineties already.

              “Have I had my tea yet?”

              “Where did I leave my glasses?”

              “Is it tea-time already? I’ve only just cleared away the breakfast things.”

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  19. john in cheshire says:

    I’d suggest the solution is to not give press conferences and if you have to, don’t take questions.

    Also, engage with us, the normal citizens of our country, by means of YouTube with live conversations. I think Prime Minister Johnson had already done this, I’ve seen clips. Isolating the lying press has worked for President Trump and it will work for Prime Minister Johnson and his team.

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    • Fedup2 says:

      John
      Some might argue that people forming groups such as press conferences could hasten the spread …. of anti government propaganda .. and a flu bug …

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    • Scroblene says:

      One issue I learned from a course I went on years ago, was if you’re stuck at any time in a conversation, ask a question!

      I can never understand why politicians don’t just ask the usually fatuous interviewer why they’re asking such stupid questions.

      If someone as bad on TV as Diane Abbott, or Old Joe Horribin, had tried to be a little brighter than the average mental lightweight, they might at least have got a little respect, but no, we were always treated to a stream of incoherent nonsense, which just proved what everyone knew in the first place, that they really are idiots!

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  20. Fedup2 says:

    As we all know – the BBC covers America like it is part of the UK . So I wonder whether any of the multitude of BBC drones will be covering what looks like the development of Joe Biden ‘s Dementia .

    A clip on twitter shows him trying to recite the first sentence from the Declaration of Independence and blowing it .

    To me – having had a bit of exposure to Dealing with Dementia it looks like the kind of memory loss which occurs in early stages of dementia for many people .

    My read on the BBC attitude is that they will support anyone in any condition as long as President Trump is removed from office .

    Today being Super Tuesday could see more attention given to him . He is Just Not Right and it is sad that he is campaigning -which I don’t see as being beneficial to his health ….

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    • john in cheshire says:

      What does President Trump call him? Sleepy Joe?
      Others call him Creepy Joe because of the way he can’t keep his hands off children.

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      • Scroblene says:

        There was a rumour that Spitting Image might be making a comeback!

        I hope they wouldn’t make the same mistakes that they did with President Regan, who really was unwell in the end.

        And that was on ITV!

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      • Fedup2 says:

        John
        I’m afraid it’s a bit beyond Sleepy Joe and his tactile overdoses … irrespective of political preference he makes Ronald Reagan look sharper than a sharp pointy thing .

        If he does well on Super Tuesday even friendly media will have to look at him . The democrats really have poor choice but I suppose Mickey Bloomberg will buy the nomination in the end . Good money wasted ….

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        • john in cheshire says:

          Fedup2, I know. I’m waiting for President Trump to initiate proceedings against him and his son, Hunter; hopefully soon to be the hunted; and their Ukrainian dealings.
          If it’s going to happen, I think it will only be after the Presidential election so next year at the earliest.

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      • Banania says:

        Is that the one with a hair fetish?

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  21. Deborah says:

    Calls for Priti Patel to step down amid bullying probe after her former aide got £25,000 DWP payout over claims minister drove her to take ‘overdose’ says the Daily Mail on line headline. Then I read it was Diane Abbott on the Today programme.

    The swamp is getting deeper. The on line DM was very Remain. Presume a headline like this is to attack any prominent Brexiteer. Whether it is revenge for Brexit or just the DM editor wants to take out any effective minister who might make Brexit work. But Abbott on Today counts for nothing (both her and the programme, nobody listens to either).

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  22. Socialist Dungheap says:

    Good day to all. I’m new here but so far have been impressed by the cogent musings of the contributors.

    I was listening to R5 this morning due to an insomnia moment and drinking a mug of tea (which we all know courtesy of a certain Nish Kumar is not British or English). When I heard two comments I would like to ponder.

    Children are having nightmares about ‘climate change’. Now having heard about 19 thousand children in the past year being ‘groomed’ (such an anodyne term, makes one think they were taken for a manicure) by Muslim rape gangs I would have thought our dear children would rightly have been having nightmares about those instead.

    Then later on in the programme the fact that someone claimed to have enjoyed a ‘Patriotic’ breakfast was sneeringly commented on. Though had it been a Scottish, Welsh or Irish breakfast what could have been more ‘Patriotic’ but this happened to refer to an English breakfast. Why I ask is the Bigoted Broadcasting Association so hateful? Is it something we’ve done?

    Next time I will enjoy my mug of good English tea in silence.

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Dear Heap – or Dung ?
      Welcome to the site …. sometimes I think users of the site should have periodic blood pressure tests because the BBC sends mine up far too much …. welcome again .

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  23. Emmanuel Goldstein says:

    Aren’t our msm wonderful.

    Standing outside number 10 and shouting at any politicians that happen to be visiting.

    Well worth all their msm training.

    I bet their Mums are proud of them.

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    • gb123 says:

      EG, I have said previously and still think the Trump solution works best. Get Marine 1 of in our case a helicopter of any description or some pretend road works with drills. As the ministers are due to go in let loose with the maximum decibels so the presstiots cant be heard. Problem solved.

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    • BRISSLES says:

      Emm, I commented on this on the previous page ! So you don’t have to rescroll, I’ve cut and paste for you………….. I’m kind like that.

      Well, I’ve just watched a Sky journo John Craig shouting in the street to Priti Patel “are you a workplace bully minister ?” , and Beth Rigby walking alongside Rees Mogg demanding his answers about the coronavirus (he told her to ask the Health Minister).

      This sort of journalism is a disgrace, shouting and screaming in the street like delinquents. It happens all too often as ministers enter No 10. These well paid idiots know too well that they aren’t going to get a reply, so why do it ? If it was me I would walk across to them and say on camera … “I refuse to engage with someone who screams at me”, and let them look the stupid ones.

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      • Thatcherrevolutionary says:

        That Rigby is a piece of work. Her face was picture though at the GE result.

        Cowbag.

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  24. vlad says:

    ‘How do I convince the Home Office I’m a lesbian?’

    This article has been festering on the beeb’s Home page for over a week. Unsurprisingly, as it ticks so many boxes dear to the beeb: black, female, homosexual, refugee, and a box that could be called: Aren’t we nasty and heartless? ‘We’ meaning of course ‘You’.

    You see, the nasty Home Office had the nerve to ask this wannabe asylum seeker intrusive questions about her sexuality, that caused her to cry. But how else is her sexuality to be determined other than by asking questions that will of course be personal and intrusive? And should we even be giving refugee status on those grounds?

    What’s to stop half of Africa claiming asylum with a gay sob story?

    Now made easier by the beeb helpfully explaining what and what not to say, and how to behave. Above all, just cry abundantly and Bob’s your uncle. Thanks Beeb, just what we need: truckloads of African lesbians, real or invented.

    And note that she first landed in France, land of Liberté, égalité, fraternité. Perhaps the welfare benefits weren’t as good.

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  25. Guest Who says:

    Kids seem oddly cool on Covid.

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  26. Guest Who says:

    BBC wheels in a Labour minister… calling for an inquiry….

    ***

    Shadow Home Secretary Diane Abbott says Labour wants a “genuinely independent inquiry” into Priti Patel bullying allegations.

    She says in 30 years as an MP she’s never seen a permanent secretary issue a legal claim against the govt.

    Read more: https://bbc.in/38dHtaA

    ***
    ‘Shami… you free? Good. Time to dig in’.

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    • Thatcherrevolutionary says:

      She was strangely quiet on the Bercow bullying allegations? In fact weren’t all the Labour dross?

         22 likes

  27. AsISeeIt says:

    Serendipitously to my earlier posting concerning the BBC’s persistent backing of all and every liberal social campaign that undermines the institution of marriage…

    ‘Russian President Vladimir Putin wants marriage to be defined as the union of a man and woman in a revised constitution, ruling out gay marriage.’

    Cue much BBC liberal pearl clutching and Russophobic knee jerking.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-51719764

    ‘Mr Putin’s drive against Western liberalism has included a controversial ban on disseminating “gay propaganda” among young Russians.’

    [Yes, sounds reasonable]

    ‘The ban – condemned by many liberals and the European Court of Human Rights…’

    [Well, they would, woundn’t they?]

    ‘…has been used to harass gay rights activists.’

    [Perhaps it is because they keep campaigning in certain ways that they get push back]

    [And if you can make any sense out of this quote from an anti-Putin ‘Political scientist’ then you’re a better man than I am, Gunga Din]

    ‘Grigory Golosov criticised the changes as “political”. “The constitution we have indicates that the state should be free of ideology. So I think these changes are inappropriate.”‘

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  28. AsISeeIt says:

    This is why we can’t have nice things

    First I should declare my own disinterest.

    I have no desire to attend the rom com stage musical Pretty Woman. I recollect the movie but it wasn’t exactly my cup of tea (apologies to the BBC’s Nish who reminds me recently as a Brexiteer I really have no right to my cup of the old chi).

    Seriously, in my world view I’ve no wish to censor or criticise the content of this commercial theatre production aimed one suspects at an older, more female, probably foreign tourist demographic.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-51705574

    But just look at some of the liberal media commentary the BBC is pleased to pass on:

    ‘Natasha Tripney in The Stage drew attention to the show’s male-heavy creative team, arguing it somewhat dampened any feminist message the musical attempted to convey.’

    Where to start with this? One: why the Francis Fukuyama does every piece of light entertainment have to convey a flippin’ message? Two: How does the sexual indentity or ethnic origin of the unseen off stage production team matter a jot?

    How and when did the media uniformly buy into this tosh?

    The former ‘Torygraph’ calling for progressivism:

    ‘The Telegraph’s Dominic Cavendish said: “There are empowerment-sloganed T-shirts on sale but the evening hasn’t a progressive bone in its body.’

    ‘Alexandra Pollard of The Independent felt the feminist tweaks didn’t go far enough, writing that the musical “offers up a shallow and outdated version of sex work, female agency and womanhood”‘

    Alexandra, dear, I feel compelled to mansplain this – it’s a musical show, it ain’t supposed to be a documentary.

    So this is why we can’t have nice things

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  29. Emmanuel Goldstein says:

    Have you read the Tommy article in the Daily Mail.
    They don’t mention that his daughter was sexually assaulted by the ‘enricher’ detained by Tommy until the police came.
    They just say he was arrested for holding this person against his will.

    It’s what we’ve come to expect from the police of course but I thought the DM would at least mention the reason he was detaining this person.

    Lots of their comments are against Tommy.

    I submitted a comment (calling all those who were against Tommy as people who must therefore support the sexual abuse of little schoolgirls)
    I very much doubt if they will let it on to the comments.

    My poster name on there is Charlie Farley, (for well over 10 years) if you spot the post.

       32 likes

    • john in cheshire says:

      It’s a sad state of affairs to suggest that whenever Tommy Robinson is out of the house, he should be recording himself and his surroundings all the time.

         19 likes

    • Charlie Farley says:

      Emmanuel
      Using my identity…….please leave cash in envelope behind cistern cubicle 3 gents toilets House of Commons !
      MSM, BBC and Police really have it in for TR , looks like a set up…..Was the Asian pediophile another policeman ?

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  30. StewGreen says:

    Yvette Cooper has made a big speech
    saying that tackling Grooming/Raping gangs is an absolute priority for Labour

    … Nope of course she hasn’t
    Dhe has speaking at a Hatey No Hopers PR event

    The Yorkshire Post spins the print headline as
    “Copper hits out over failure to tackle far right”
    .. the text doesn’t actually say that she said that

    and indeed the online headline is different
    (and has bad English)
    “Stop blaming Brexit for rise in abuse towards politicians, says MP Yvette Cooper
    A senior Yorkshire MP has accused the main political parties of failing to “show proper leadership” in the face of the racism and prejudice she says new far-right movements are helping to enter public debate”

    At no point does the YP make clear that HnH is a Labour front group.

    https://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/stop-blaming-brexit-rise-abuse-towards-politicians-says-mp-yvette-cooper-2009692

       17 likes

    • G.W.F. says:

      Hopey not Hatey receive hand outs from Unbound Philanthropy, an outfit which transfers donations from the business community to worthwhile progressive pro immigration groups.
      https://www.unboundphilanthropy.org/who-we-are

      In 2019, we have awarded 30 US grants, totaling $4,388,068 and 18 UK grants totaling £2,320,000.

      UK Program

      Behavioural Insights Ltd
      Bite the Ballot Education Limited
      British Future
      Central England Law Centre Limited
      CITIZENS UK
      City of Sanctuary
      Democracy Club Community Interest

      Hope not hate Charitable Trust
      Just for Kids Law
      More in Common
      New Economy Organisers Network
      Reach plc.
      RECLAIM Project Ltd
      Refugee Support Network

      In 2018 Hope Hatey received £120,000

         18 likes

      • john in cheshire says:

        They all sound like leftwing scamathons.

        I’ve not heard of many of them but I’d have nothing to do with any of them.

           14 likes

      • G says:

        G.W.F,
        Any bets that upon deeper research, one would find the name, Soros lurking somewhere? “Contributions” of Nineteen million US for 2015 and fourteen million for 2014 is too lovely round sums for my thinking.
        https://www.unboundphilanthropy.org/financial-legal-information

           13 likes

      • 7Clubs says:

        if unaware Reach plc are the new plc name for Mirror Newspapers.Some see them as a defensive play with Coronavirus going on.On the other hand if you do not like The Mirror one can always try to make money shorting Reach

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    • StewGreen says:

      Monday’s Yorkshire Post
      frontpage headline : Region’s Far-right activists moving online
      (strangely almost the same as a BBC headline 2 years ago)
      It continues
      ‘State of Hate’ study fears recruitment of the young.

      Yet again the online title is different
      Far-right activism in Yorkshire moves off the streets and onto Youtube – but grassroots movements not dead yet
      Far-right activism has moved off the streets of Yorkshire and onto YouTube and other social networking sites, a new report has claimed
      Two prominent users of the video-sharing platform in Yorkshire have been identified by advocacy group Hope Not Hate as being at the forefront of a “youthful, leaderless, online community” bringing the views into the mainstream. It suggested far-right ‘vloggers’ could even inspire terrorists to carry out attacks.

      That looks like a cutNpaste of HnH material.

      https://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/politics/far-right-activism-yorkshire-moves-streets-and-youtube-grassroots-movements-not-dead-yet-2005530?amp

      There is also an editorial as well invoking Jo Cox AGAIN
      Fighting the far-right in wake of Jo Cox murder – The Yorkshire Post says
      YORKSHIRE knows only too well where far-right radicalisation can lead.
      The horrific murder of the Batley and Spen MP Jo Cox was the most shocking possible illustration of its consequences.

         8 likes

      • StewGreen says:

        All terrorism in democracies is wrong
        .. AFAIK Yorkshire Islamist terrorists have killed people in Britain
        and are a way bigger threat than a largely mythical far-right
        yet I haven’t seen similar YP campaigning to stop Islamist beliefs in Yorkshire

           20 likes

        • StewGreen says:

          Meanwhile last week a 15-year-old pupil at Morley Academy from an Afghan Sikh family
          was attacked at a bus stop
          apparently by an ethnic Pakistani.

             16 likes

      • Banania says:

        What real evidence is there that the murder of Jo Cox was “far right”?

           18 likes

  31. digg says:

    The Independent put the TR Centre Parc story in their crime section… they don’t even mention the Asian “man” accused of molesting TR’s daughter in the pool which caused the affray, they even show some library pictures of Tommy getting milkshaked by an asian “man”

    Utter, utter despicable pond life….

    I do notice that the story has now vanished rather quickly so maybe they got cold feet or even better cold writ!

    They don’t realise that they are just burying themselves to ordinary decent folk in this Country and adding flames to their fury at the injustice of this…

       44 likes

  32. s.trubble says:

    Here’s a suggestion…………if the PM is cornered into removing Priti Patel, he should simultaneously announce her as “Special Projects ” minister with the initial responsibility to review the bBC.

       34 likes

    • Old Goat says:

      I think he’s backpedalled already, so far as the BBC is concerned…

         16 likes

  33. Tabs says:

    Tommy Robinson arrest video for those who are interested…

       31 likes

    • scribblingscribe says:

      Be nice to have an answer why they have left the accused guy to be free to possibly wipe his phone.

         28 likes

  34. StewGreen says:

    Desert Island discs aired the head of Channel 4 News Dorothy Byrne
    she said there is a huge problem that the public has little trust in politicians.

    … That is the same claim a beeboid woman made last week.

    Seems to me like obvious deflection by the media.

       21 likes

  35. Celtic_Mist says:

    Made me smile –

       17 likes

  36. Guest Who says:

    Be interested how the BBC reacts to this, given their interest, albeit selectively unidirectional.

    https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/fake-news-web-sites-may-not-have-a-major-effect-on-elections/?

       6 likes

  37. Fedup2 says:

    So…. Fiona Bruce says she had a ‘ briefing ‘ about a particular individual on her weekly propaganda show .

    It seems the briefing was necessary because the guest didn’t conform to the standard identikit muppet on the panel .

    Who says it’s biased ? She also said that the difference between doing Antiques Roadshow and QT was that the furniture in the former was less wooden than the average panel member on QT….

       22 likes

    • StewGreen says:

      Bruce, who took over from David Dimbleby as Question Time host in January 2019, explained to Radio Times:
      ‘I had a briefing about Laurence, and what he might say,
      but the thing about Question Time is that it’s entirely unpredictable,
      so people will get into arguments.’

         16 likes

  38. StewGreen says:

    Local Hull news : Milkshake supporter Labour MP Karl Turner is on saying that the 10 migrants who arrived in Hull inside a shipping container are victims.
    https://metro.co.uk/2020/03/03/fiona-bruce-briefed-laurence-fox-ahead-controversial-question-time-race-row-12339386/

       8 likes

  39. JimS says:

    Jeremy Vine today was covering the story of the girl who took the drugs, had her bits cut off and is now complaining that she wasn’t well advised before having these procedures performed on her.

    A lady calls in to talk about her 13 year-old daughter who was also ‘confused’. Our Jeremy can hardly contain his enthusiasm! This girl has ‘lived an experience’!

    Eventually it dawns on Vine that the mum wasn’t ‘supportive’ of her daughter, in fact she was very concerned and was now relieved that her daughter had now seen sense. Quick back-pedalling on the trans-enthusiasm.

    While we should make allowances for the mentally-confused there is no such excuse for these sick people in the media and politics that are pushing trans-genderism as if it is just some sort of fashion craze, rather than an irreversible, life-changing event for the individual.

       27 likes

  40. Guest Who says:

    Was there ever any doubt Newsnight would weigh in?

       11 likes

    • john in cheshire says:

      From what I have read, German and Greek reporters have been told by the island citizens to leave because they have had enough of the lies these lying media cockroaches have been spreading.

      If I was this representative of the racist far-left bbc, I’d make myself scarce pretty sharpish because once the local Greeks find out who he/ she/ it is, they won’t be too happy.

         21 likes

  41. Fedup2 says:

    It’s not the BBC but below is an extract from the daily twitter feed in remembrance of those killed by terrorists in Northern Ireland – every so often it seems right to remember …..

    OnThisDay in 1972 the IRA murdered Stephen Keating, 18. Soldier shot, N Belfast. 2 wks later mother‘s “Open Letter to a Sniper” published in @BelTel “Sniper do you know what you have done? Stephen wasn’t a Catholic or a Protestant but a Christian guarding a Catholic area

       17 likes

  42. Socialist Dungheap says:

    Err? Let me get this straight in my thinking. Daughter (a child) complains to father that a male POC inappropriately touched her whilst she (the child) was in a swimming pool. Father remonstrates with male POC and attempts to effect a citizens arrest. Officers of the Law arrive and arrest the father and let male POC go free.

    Is this unconscious bias or institutional racism?

    May be some one could check my thinking?

       36 likes

  43. Halifax says:

    I won’t be using Starling Bank.

       4 likes

  44. john in cheshire says:

    This from the Church Militant website is only three minutes long but I recommend watching it to the very end. It really is shocking what commies will do to people:

       5 likes

  45. MarkyMark says:

    Turkey
    Budget: £53,833,672

    https://devtracker.dfid.gov.uk/search?query=turkey&includeClosed=0

    The UK’s contribution to the Facility for Refugees in Turkey.
    UK Department for International Development
    The Facility will help people who have fled the conflict in Syria and now live in Turkey. Turkey hosts the largest number of refugees in the world, including 2.7 million Syrians. Support will include food, education, health care and job opportunities. Helping refugees and host communities in the region makes an important contribution to addressing the European refugee crisis. Work is now under way to understand the implications of leaving the EU for the UK’s development work. The EU continues to be a significant aid donor and is an important partner in some DFID programmes. All decisions on programme funding are in line with the UK Aid Strategy.

    Project Identifier: GB-GOV-1-300287
    Activity Status: Implementation
    Start Date: 26-09-2016
    Total Budget: £288,249,998

       6 likes

    • Fedup2 says:

      Wouldn’t it be nice if the budget includes a closure of the department for overseas giveaways and the budget being cut to zero ?

      And money being redeployed to something a bit more domestic – like elderly social care ? .

      This doesn’t affect me directly but it just seems insane when the UK has such a shameful attitude to people at the end of their lives -.which one day will be you and me .

         25 likes

  46. Thoughtful says:

    There’s a terrible new desease spreading across the world. It causes delusions a fall in inteligence and a tendancy to extreme violence, it’s called the Qur’anovirus !

       24 likes

  47. Guest Who says:

    Probably.

       9 likes

  48. davylars says:

    LIES, LIES, and MORE DAMNED LIES
    BBC 1 news this evening
    Another one of our roving reporters adding to his carbon footprint in the Antarctic reporting the fact that the waters in this part of the Antarctic are minus 2 c.
    Doesn’t say which part, but the underwater wildlife and ecosystem is threatened with destruction by the rising temperatures of the water.

    Lie 1. A “climate scientist” backs him up by stating that this ecosystem has remained the same for 2 million years and any rise in temperature will wipe it out….
    I am not a scientist, but am pretty dammed sure that the world has gone through thousands of temperature changes in that time, and this particular ecosystem has managed to evolve quite happily throughout.

    Back to Sophie at the desk…

    Lie 2.. she continues by saying that this due to the recent record breaking temperature of 20c…

    This “record temperature” was proved to have never happened. It was reported gleefully by the BBC, but they were strangely silent when it was proved to have been false..

       24 likes

  49. TrickCyclist says:

    Been reading the comments here about the arrest of Tommy Robinson while apparently restraining an Asian man he suspected of interfering with his daughter.
    Just realised there is a small, BBC-related irony here. In the parallel universe of Monday’s EastEnders, black teenager Keegan (well he’s half black, at least) tackled a smirking white burglar, who had also managed to nick the wedding ring off Tiff’s (Keegan’s new wife) finger. While the two are scuffling on the ground, the police turn up – and arrest Keegan, allowing white guy to escape. “It’s just the way it is, Son!” says Keegan’s dad. Just to pile on the agony of his prejudiced existence, Keegan later gets hauled away by hospital security when he feels he’s being unfairly ignored in favour of other patients. “It’s just the way it is, Dad!”
    EastEnders has been building this story for a little while, with Keegan moping about being stop-and-searched while trying to make an honest living with his fast food small business – ignoring the character’s history of theft, violence and drugs (admittedly this kind of scriptwriting amnesia is common in all soaps, which is why I really shouldn’t watch this crap).
    Evil White Males abound in EastEnders, although the recent death of Leo the Stalker has left them minus one. There’s still wife-beating lawyer Gray though!

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