Parliament returns Tuesday . The Biased BBC will be ready to criticise the PM for either not returning – or returning before he is ready . The continuing lack of support for any government effort is constant across the days . Maybe a few more people are noticing …..
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I apologise that this is not bBBC though may be of interest. A poem by D.H. Lawrence (1923). All of the below including the final line ‘Not for me’ is the writing of D.H. Lawrence. Quite a coincidence !
Bats
At evening, sitting on this terrace,
When the sun from the west, beyond Pisa, beyond the mountains of Carrara
Departs, and the world is taken by surprise …
When the tired flower of Florence is in gloom beneath the glowing
Brown hills surrounding …
When under the arches of the Ponte Vecchio
A green light enters against stream, flush from the west,
Against the current of obscure Arno …
Look up, and you see things flying
Between the day and the night;
Swallows with spools of dark thread sewing the shadows together.
A circle swoop, and a quick parabola under the bridge arches
Where light pushes through;
A sudden turning upon itself of a thing in the air.
A dip to the water.
And you think:
“The swallows are flying so late!”
Swallows?
Dark air-life looping
Yet missing the pure loop …
A twitch, a twitter, an elastic shudder in flight
And serrated wings against the sky,
Like a glove, a black glove thrown up at the light,
And falling back.
Never swallows!
Bats!
The swallows are gone.
At a wavering instant the swallows gave way to bats
By the Ponte Vecchio …
Changing guard.
Bats, and an uneasy creeping in one’s scalp
As the bats swoop overhead!
Flying madly.
Pipistrello!
Black piper on an infinitesimal pipe.
Little lumps that fly in air and have voices indefinite, wildly vindictive;
Wings like bits of umbrella.
Bats!
Creatures that hang themselves up like an old rag, to sleep;
And disgustingly upside down.
Hanging upside down like rows of disgusting old rags
And grinning in their sleep.
Bats!
In China the bat is symbol for happiness.
Not for me!
Mouse
Very good.
What about a poem about Al Beeb?
“The Jabberwocky” (Lewis Carroll)
Taffman,
Thinking about Lewis Carroll, I’m sure the bBBC are probably well read in Alice and Wonderland or Through the Looking Glass (can’t remember who it was in these books who could change the meaning of any word or phrase by just giving it a new definition).
Not DH nor Lewis Carroll, but I’ve had a quick go to contribute something a bit more bBBC relevant.
This Harlot infestation
Infests each breathe and heartbeat of the nation
Each sucking mite accepts old Auntie’s shilling
Erode’s each pillar with her daily drilling
Feeding on its generous host
It twists each truth in turn to lose the most
So day is night and night is day
All are lost, and all will pay
Keep em coming .
That’s good Mouse. I especially like the line
‘It twists each truth…’
Yes, the BBC. The World’s Most Twisted Broadcaster.
SNAFU, BBC-styly.
It was I heard Hugh Pam use the word “ashamed”, I felt really angry….at him and the BBC. NHS have highly paid procurement people, but I don’t feel they should be ashamed either. Every country in the world is wanting this stuff.
I would like to nominate for a gong, whoever it was from the anychess that came up with the idea of “these gowns that we’ve been struggling to get hold of… instead of throwing them away, shouldn’t we try washing them and reusing them?”
ITV local news”Coronavirus: Capt Tom guest of honour at Harrogate hospital opening”
.. anything missing there ?
They forgot to mention that he won’t be there
It will be via video link
The BBC put it in the third sentence.
“The veteran, who was born in Keighley, West Yorkshire, will appear via video link at the opening on Tuesday”
https://www.bbc.com/news/amp/uk-england-york-north-yorkshire-52340554
Absolutely ! they expect us patients to wear a couple of bits of fabric with 2 strings when in hospital, or having an xray – and what do we do with them afterwards – shove ’em in the bin for washing and reusing. Where’s the problem ?
The bbc are very big on guilt by association.
Usually.
If I were Frankie I should mind my mouth, and be extremely careful of those clawed hands…
I feel sorry for Mat Hancock.
A plane load of gowns/masks were due here yesterday and the flight was delayed. Now an RAF plane has gone to pick them up from Istanbul. Trouble is the cargo plan only holds half of the expected cargo, so another plane is going to have to be sent there. Who would blame Hancock for sitting with his head in his hands, started smoking, or becoming an alcoholic. He must believe when this sh….t happened that he took on the poison chalice of a job.
Stupid questions.
Would you blame a nurse who refused to treat a patient because she hasn’t got the correct PPE?
Then in the next breath we hear how these people are so brave and selfless by putting their lives at risk.
Which is it? It can’t be both.
Hugh Pym retweeted the BBC clip of his frankly, DISGUSTING, question earlier.
I think he was probably expecting his media bubble , lefty sidekicks to offer up their praise, alas, no !!!! He got EXACTLY what he deserved.
A load of stick and abuse and general contempt for the BBC . I imagine he cannot fathom it out.
Idiot.
The CCBGB is turned up to 11
Ratio-ed 3 to 1
175 likes vs 521 replies
7:30pm Panorama wearing PPE
banging on about lack of PPE
Coventry and Warwickshire hospitals
Coronavirus: US faced with protests amid pressure to reopen – BBC News YouTube
BBC using a Photoshopped thumbnail image of Trump with a stars and stripes face mask…
They lower the bar daily.
I see the #BiasedBBC hate hate hate @realDonaldTrump so much that they think it’s OK
to abuse him & the American flag by photoshopping it over his face
These people may be able to answer a few questions ?………..
NHS Procurement
https://www.england.nhs.uk/gp/digital-first-primary-care/procurement/
Channel 4 has found another of those doctors with so little time they seem able to moonlight as MPs, activists, etc.
Oddly similar in many ways.
The Liverpool Echo wants to us to know that the 250 deaths in Liverpool, are due to the Spanish fans attending the Champions League match on the same day Jenny Harries advised against big events. Catch his drift?
He asked if it was a mistake to allow the game to go ahead – because the mayor or Madrid said it was a mistake.
I guess he’s happy with Spain not preventing thousands of fans travelling to the UK, despite the mayor of Madrid thinking it was going to be a mistake.
Norn Irlnd, Diane. Yough don’ wanna go there, it’s full of DYUUPEE – they’ll look at yer p’culargh lake.
I didn’t see this on the BBC
Celtic – they did the same with the union flag last week but I can’t remember where I saw it – I suspect every image as being fixed until proved otherwise now —-
What about Al Beeb then ?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-52358920
Are you flight boys tracking the PPE flight ?
17:25pm Royal Air Force A400 Atlas C1 ZM416 out from @RAFBrizeNorton heading to Istanbul, Turkey
20:15pm BST ZM416 RRR4994
DESCENDING TOWARDS ISTANBUL HAALIMANI AIRPORT
Have we only got one cargo aeroplane left, to pick up the ppe and it’s having to make 3 trips?
Stew – I will thank you – I thought it might be one of those non viewable military jobs – ….
I’ve got a feeling it’s not going to be straight forward ….although an a400 took off from Istanbul at about 2100 heading west ….
I imagine Matt Hancock is wearing the “refresh” key out on his laptop ???? .
Re the BBC Charity
The BBC journo speaks of separation
I used to like listening to the specialist music programmes on Radio 2 – even The Organist Entertains!
First they pushed that beyond bedtime then all the remaining ones got moved to 9 p.m. Now they have all gone to 11 p.m., far too late.
My BBC Radio listening is pretty much down to a bit of Radio 3 before the caterwauling starts and old Radio 4 Extra crime stories. R4E can be a pain because regardless of what time of day or night you turn it on they will be playing what you heard at a different time the day before!
Back in the days when it was Radio 7 you could use an internet radio to play the programme at any time. Then they ‘improved’ the service, probably to only work on iPad2020 or whatever Apple is flogging now.
Fortunately there are other broadcasters around the world that let you listen to their content when you want to without signing in. What’s more their streams don’t drop out for minutes at a time.
Xxxxxxxxxx have won University Challenge.
A bit unfair though as they had Harry Potter on their team.
Spoiling idiot
Sorry about that Eddy.
I didn’t think about it as a spoiler.
Maybe Fedup can remove it.
EG
I’ve fiddled – I found myself watching mastermind as well – I’m glad xxxxxxx won that !
Boris causes PPE shortage in Germany
Boris causes PPE shortage in France
Boris causes PPE shortage in Ireland
Panic buyer with an overflowing trolley.
Back in March the WHO said the world need to step up production by 40% to cover the expected demand.
In other words, one countries fulfilment is another countries shortage.
Our press and our medics don’t want to share with the world; they demand complete fulfilment.
The price of oil has gone negative . Which I find difficult to get my head around . But one thing that does mean is that we won’t be hearing the SNP talking about independence any time soon as that negative stops the Scots oil industry . Frightening event with consequences which seem unforeseeable…. and potentially making PPE shortages appear trivial …
……………someone tell me I’ve read it wrong .
The same negative pricing happens often with wind and solar power
The oil price is negative because the producers can’t store it all.
The SNP position makes me laugh.
Fossil fuels are bad, they’re destroying the environment.
Renewables are good. SNP is good.
Pssst, we’ve got oil. Give us cash and you can have it. Sod the environment.
I can assure you that won’t shut the SNP up. They have become a cult.
Nope ! apparently producers are PAYING people to take it away !
I can happily store about 72 gallons of petrol in my vehicles and another 10 in jerry cans and I dont even need paying
Big jumps in Brazil and Ireland deaths
And Russia and Turkey have a lot of new cases
which should turn into lots of deaths in a weeks time
The UK had less new cases than both if we exclude key workers on account that they are tested even when they have minor symptoms.
Strangely stats table don’t scale by population
If they did they’d show smaller countries like Singapore and Belgium are booking way more new cases than the UK
Scaling Ireland’s 77 deaths today would be 1013 in the UK
(On April 10 they had a huge spike in new cases and that one day has probably followed through)
Brazil’s 383 isn’t so much cos it’s 3 times more populous than the UK
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries
Carrying on from my previous comment from the last page.
I could neve havr been a government minister giving a press
conference on the Chinese virus. I am too facetious.
One may not approve of Donald Trump answering a question
from a CNN reporter , by saying “Your the last person I would
tell what my intentions are.”
I suppose the government could get back at the BBC by
giving them the last question after say the Daily Star who have
asked, “When will it be OK to re-open massage parlours? Have
they closed?
No I think , going back to my last comments I may say” And the first question from
LORD HAW HAW from the BBC.”
‘“ when are you going to apologise for running press conferences which allow people like me to ask you dumb questions like this one ?” Please make those press briefings end … I’d hope d today was the last one …..
I can’t work out why the government is giving people 80% of their salary.
Everything is closed except food shops so there is nothing to spend discretionary expenditure on.
And we know from the daily graphs that spending on transport is down by nearly 80%.
I imagine the whole public sector are stashing huge amounts into their bank accounts.
The private sector nowhere near so much but still not so much money is needed when there is nothing to buy.
Sluff,
I know two people that are furloughed on 80% and one getting 100%. All three applied for mortgage holidays.
Theta. Payback on this will be a nightmare – they could save 4 billion by privatising the BBC ( use that ‘difficult decisions ‘) line- the back catalogue must be worth something . C4 can go as well . Kill off Hs2 and anything funded by borrowed tax money.
Plenty of tax raises coming – income tax , VAT , National Insurance , corporation , frozen or reduced tax thresholds ….name that tax ….
with oil tumbling I suspect they will bang a big lump on fuel and then let the fuel companies take the flak as the price of oil recovers
fruit pickers ?
Labour politicians like Richard Burgon could pick ALL THE CHERRIES on their own
Not a good look really. He’d rather see a bunch of EU countries suffering more than the UK.
Labour are now the party who don’t accept expert advice from “our NHS” and Public Health England, both saying you mustn’t compare countries, there are too many differences in the datasets.
#NotSurprisingNews : ‘Make something up’ threat Lancashire Police officer suspended
The BBC tips on avoiding spreading misinformation
apply exactly to te agenda pushing of BBCnews.
Yet they are all “oh we are perfect, it’s social media that is evil”
Aaaagh! I clicked the the play button.
This morning, I got on my push-bike and rode 5 miles around a 10 metre circle on my driveway, in 18th gear.
Lunchtime. I spent three hours within ear-shot of my wife making three phone calls to her friends to discuss their lives since last speaking to them yesterday.
This evening, I watched the press briefing. Half way through Hugh Pym’s question I cried with boredom.
The indomitable Katie Hopkins telling it like it is on the rising political power of the muslim bloc, the ghastly Ilhan Omar and more…
“GAME OVER” FINALLY! FINAL VERDICT TO KICK ILHAN OMAR OUT OF CONGRESS APPROVED BY PRESIDENT TRUMP
Vlad, I’m not sure if that is accurate – I doubt Trump would get involved?
I think the BBC is guilty here – it’s really a matter of judgement?
Read both stories –
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-52241221
@Celtic_Mist StopFundingFakeNews are the GOOD guys
They patrol the internet, intimidating advertisers from helping websites which have WRONGTHINK
We can trust these watchers, cos they keep all their own names and funding secret.
Nothing on their website except they have some quotes from Obama & their own FakeNews
https://zelo-street.blogspot.com/2019/04/stop-funding-fake-news-is-pushing-fake.html
and their own article says
“SFFN is a campaign group dedicated to halting the spread of post-truth online.
It is made up of *anonymous activists* who administer the campaign,
and relies on its supporters to *contact* brands advertising on fake news sites. “
I wouldn’t dismiss it as lefty , cos it at least makes a pretence of attacking 2 Corbinista websites
and then smears about 7 righty sites.
I guess they are globalists and the antiCorbinista wing of the Labour Party
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-04-21/kim-surgery-report-fuels-speculation-about-north-korean-leader
I have been taking Hydroxychloroquine for years, and my regular pharmacy didn’t have any, and it was left to me to telephone around looking to fulfil my prescription. Thankfully I did, but it involved a car drive out of my area to do it.
I find it extraordinary if there is a shortage, because its a drug you cannot get without a script, so why should GPs prescribe it unnecessarily ? even private scripts you need a reason to take it. Its baffling to me.
I think India stopped exporting it
Same playbook as the BBC
BBC ‘News’
Stopping pay for almost half of its workforce will save Disney up to $500m (£400m) a month, according to the Financial Times.
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The irony of the BBC, currently uniquely fully staffed and over paid, passing this on from another provider from a ‘reporter’s’ back bedroom, is not lost.
BBC Moaning Emole (with added #wefiles and further irony about who gets paid and who is ‘essential’)
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By Victoria King
UK virus latest
Coronavirus latest
The government’s scientific advisers will meet later to discuss whether the public should be urged to wear masks to help combat coronavirus. However, hospital bosses are warning that supplies of masks for the NHS could be seriously put at risk if the go-ahead is given for general use.
Experts are split on the value of masks. The World Health Organization has said there’s no evidence to support them being used by the population at large, but other scientists say they can reduce transmission. London Mayor Sadiq Khan, among others, has called for them to become compulsory while travelling in the city. Read what our online health editor has to say on the whole debate.
The supply of protective kit in general continues, of course, to be a major issue – and we’ve learned now that dentists are also struggling to get what they need.
On Monday the UK’s deputy chief scientific adviser, Prof Dame Angela Maclean, said the number of new confirmed virus infections was “flattening out”, and Chancellor Rishi Sunak said there were “encouraging signs” of progress. Lockdown measures must continue, he insisted though, and to that end, when the House of Commons resumes later the public will see new screens in the chamber to allow MPs to question ministers via video link.
We’ve got a dedicated page pulling together all of our coronavirus material. Among the latest stories, small UK festivals appeal for patience from ticket-holders, and we look closely at just what those key workers we cheer every week are paid.
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Also of note is the ‘experts’, of which there are many, all disagree. So those making decisions need to make a call based on, at best, conflicting advice which, if incorrect, the bbc will cherry pick for gotchas, carefully deep-sixing any expertise they have pushed that may be shown to be inaccurate or based more on ideology.
…more on…
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Comparing nations
Everyone wants to know how well their country is tackling coronavirus, but you have to make sure you’re comparing the same things when looking at one versus another, as BBC Reality Check explains. That being said, some countries do stand out. Take New Zealand, where the country’s success – and Prime Minister Jacinta Ardern’s leadership – have won global attention. Other nations might be looking at their unwitting successes – India, for example. There the skies over polluted cities quickly turned an azure blue, and the air unusually fresh, when transport was suspended and economic activity curbed. Could it be the start of a permanent shift? Read more.
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Anyone turning to the bbc to check reality needs to pour Harvey another double.
…and more on…
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Are hospital cleaners forgotten heroes in this crisis?
On 26 March, Chicago stopped for a moment of gratitude amidst the growing coronavirus crisis. People took to their balconies, porches and rooftops, cheering and ringing bells in the dark night. The applause was for the healthcare workers, first responders and service-industry employees on the frontlines of the pandemic who were risking their lives every day to save people from the virus wreaking havoc around the world. But for hospital cleaner Candice Martinez, 39, the recognition of nurses and doctors has left her feeling empty.
Read full analysis >
Marianna Brady
Washington
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Marianna is new. And is in Washington. Yet for her stirring piece appears to have found, or been found by a Dettol sprayer in Chicago. This whole applause lark has gifted the outrage industry a whole new category of whinge to the ‘essential’ news.
Wonder if this will make it into bbc ‘analysis’ of kit provision?
Or… ‘civil service courtesies’ apply?
Or…
Was it NHS provisioned PPE?
If yes, she is stealing from her employer and the tax payer.
She should be removed from her post and an enquiry held.
If I was caught stealing equipment from my employer (private sector) I would have faced disciplinary action and most likely lost my job.
A few years back an individual I used to work with was sacked for posting potentially revealing photos of our products on social media without approval or constent.
I’d offer that in the case of many failings in our country, whether it be in the fields of Education, Health, Defence, Local Government etc the Uncivil Serpents are very much to blame.
Lots of this though.
Khan is only pushing the face mask thing because its a version of the muslamic veil. That much is obvious.
If he was truly concerned about the transmission of disease he’d have closed the tubes weeks ago.
He is an utter cretin.
The Telegraph on Tuesday carries a fairly detailed article on the real numbers of people who have died because of the Chinese virus .
As I have been predicting – it’s sobering and horrible
Whilst government briefings have been fixated on the numbers in hospital the real story and suffering is outside . Particularly care homes -where the numbers of ‘ unexplained deaths ‘ have shot up when compared to ‘ normal ‘ corresponding months .
Conclusion – there has either been a policy of leaving care homes to their fate and concentrating efforts on hospitals – leading to the NHS fetish
Or just incompetence / negligence in elder care – which is ongoing .
There is of course a far more heartless and sinister “they’re going to die anyway “ doctrine which I’m sure concentration camp guards used to justify what they did .
https://twitter.com/bbcbreakfast/status/1252481067052867588?s=21
Tread carefully, bbc.
Beards on. Beards… off.
Guest – tweets gone !
There’s a thing.
Maybe they saw a looming issue?
I think there will be some disquiet (well even more*) if our ‘peaceful’ practitioners are seen to be flouting the rules during their cult worship – and even more so if the authorities turn a blind eye.
*For disquiet, See various MSM and social media sources re: Romanian fruit pickers, flights landing at Heathrow, invaders on the beaches of Kent, UK Plod checking shopping bags, walkers and sunbathers…
I’ve Romanian friends, love the country, and they certainly need the money. But whoever decided that it is a good idea to fly in people at the present time to pick fruit and veg needs to be put against a wall. Only in a figurative, Greta-sort of way of course 🙂
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-50799233
Ian, that’s the point.
We are in lockdown in the UK, civil liberties removed in order to supposedly following the medical science, yet this stance is completely contradicted by the open borders policy and the fact we have let many overseas ‘visitors’ in to move freely.
Its clearly wrong on many levels, but no one in the MSM is calling the Government or science out over it.
And still the disgraceful BBC gets £76,923,076.9231 (that’s seventy-six million, nine-hundred and twenty-three thousand, and seventy-six pounds, and ninety-two pence), every week of the year to peddle it’s bile, incorrect statistics, leftie untruths, bad management, misrepresentation of the facts, stupid game shows, idiot unqualified autocue readers, hatred of our Conservative elected government, sublime ignorance of any commercial responsibility, expensive tastes, appalling disrespect for America’s President Trump, crappy reality ‘shows’, pathetic plays by unknowns, simpering adoration for a bloated and overcrowded NHS ‘management’, BAME rubbish, waspish wokeness, and generally being a piss-poor bunch of overpaid lefties who are unable to cobble a half-decent story by themselves.
What a bloody waste of money the BBBC is!
End the tax that robs from the poor to pay the rich.
“Trump calls to suspend immigration “
Odds for Trump being next President of US , 5/6
Joe Biden 6/5
Coronavirus: Immigration to US to be suspended amid pandemic, Trump says
Shock horror! Nasty Trump! The BBC reports on a US immigration ban.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-52363852
No mention of Australia or NZ or where they have largely irradiated the virus directly because of a travel ban.
If everyone is a potential ‘Trojan horse’ what justification for immigration can there be now? That’s the question the BBC should be asking. Or alternatively, ‘Why the hell are our borders open…Still’!
https://www.heathrow.com/arrivals – This is just one airport today. You couldn’t make it up.
Also, I note;
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-52363378
Wearing a mask could put supplies to a healthcare system ‘at risk’ (I deliberately do not use NHS – as it’s too emotive for some).
It’s not, and never has been, about your personal safety it’s about doing everything to protect a healthcare system, and by extension, government reputation. What a peverted, second rate nation we have become.
Who does Trump? Putin? NZ, Australia? Japan? S Korea? etc etc put first? Not their state healthcare provider.
Conclusion – Get a mask, like most other advanced nations.
https://twitter.com/cotic/status/1252491870313369600?s=21
Simpo best wear camo out.
In the interests of impartiality, this BBC (!!!!) article sheds a little more light on PPE provision than most.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-52362707
But I wonder how sensibly it is being used?
A few years ago I attended an appointment with a consultant. He washed his hands. Then he used seven or eight paper towels to dry them. He notably did this every time he washed his hands.
Meanwhile…..hospitals are supposed to differentiate between general waste and clinical waste. The bags and bins have different colours. Clinical waste is disposed of at a cost of maybe £1000 a tonne. But on many occasions I have seen the general waste bins full and, rather than being emptied, staff zand visitors alike just put general waste in the empty clinical waste bins, oblivious of the cost.
So don’t underestimate the ability of the NHS to waste what they have un-necessarily.
But then again, being the NHS, one is not allowed to comment. They are, as we know, untouchable.
Toady watch at circa 07.15. I’ve self-isolated from it for a while now, but thought my BP was suitably low this morning to take the hit.
A well-spoken and calm female member of the medical profession comes on to be interviewed. I listened for a couple of minutes thinking it may be ok, I also didn’t get her credentials as was still half asleep.
However the usual same old same old was rolled out,
PPE. Lack of. Check.
Guidance on use. Check.
A questionnaire has been filled out by members of the organisation. Concerns and Issues over masks not fitting. Check
But then a new one, death in-service benefits for the front line staff and finally a plea not to deport the families of the many many overseas workers in ‘r any chess’ that fear being sent home should the key worker in their family tragically die whilst serving this country.
No interjection by the Beeboid (Robinson maybe?)
Off button hit.
His people know their people.
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BBC News
British artist Damien Hirst has created two new artworks in response to coronavirus – one to raise money for charity and the other to raise spirits. ????
bbc.in/3aq0A2h
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And profile too. Think Megharry.
All those Beeboids at home surfing twitter for leads need something to post.