Start the Week Thread 8 June 2020

Do you notice the BBC has obsessions ? One obsession is Dominic Cummings . Now it is about ‘ largely peaceful ‘ protests on behalf of a criminal who was killed by american police .
‘Largely peaceful ‘ -by the way – In BBC speak -now means 27 london coppers injured and some hospitalised …. It’s lucky none are ‘largely dead’.

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609 Responses to Start the Week Thread 8 June 2020

  1. Doublethinker says:

    I know many folks on this site have renounced listening to Classic FM and so have probably missed two dreadful examples of the station’s growing Wokism. I complained to them yesterday about their ridiculous minute silence but have been unable so far to find a substitute station playing classical music.
    Firstly , on their ‘news’ they reported that Yorkshire Tea , Yorkshire Tea for goodness sake, had joined the BLM protest and the company had said that if you didn’t support BLM they didn’t want you to buy their tea!! The madness has become a pandemic .
    Secondly, Alexander Armstrong , rapidly becoming prat of the week, commenting on how the Golden Gate Bridge in LA was making tunes due to the wind resonating through new railings, said that there was a message there and that it was that the world should listen and get in tune. Obviously a thinly veiled reference to those who refused to bend the knee to BLM.
    It won’t be long before the thinly veiled references become overt threats. I can see stuff like unless your car has a BLM approved sticker on it it will be attacked , or if you don’t wear a BLM badge you will be attacked. Prats like Armstrong and the fools at Yorkshire Tea , plus the idiotic plods , don’t seem to realise that by signalling their virtue , real or spurious, they are in fact condoning the BLM thugs who will take it as green light to ramp up their violence.

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    • Jeff says:

      The way things are going Thursdays “spontaneous” applause will be accompanied by all the numpties adopting the bended knee. Pathetic as this spectacle is, if the media told them to, they’d do it!

      I heard the awful, woke news item about both Yorkshire and PG Tips tea. Classic FM is just about the only music radio station I can still stomach…and it’s really pushing its bleedin’ luck!

      I think these ghastly virtue signallers have misread the public mood. Most of us don’t like to be lectured by people supplying our groceries and we usually prefer having our monuments blemish free and upright. Not covered in moronic messages or at the bottom of a lake.

      The repellent anarchists of Antifa seem to have gained a strangle hold on the media. Without winning any elections they’re dictating the agenda. I keep away from all news items on the MSM, though Talk Radio is a breath of fresh air. They are, at least, taking an alternative stance and addressing the vandalism and criminality.

      I just wish I could say the same about the (so called) Conservative government. God, their response has been pathetic. They’ve been incoherent, weak and apologetic. Johnson models himself on Churchill. A risible comparison judging by his recent feeble performances. He’s so flaccid he makes Neville Chamberlain seem like Attila the Hun.

      Boris has failed us on Covid. And now he’s proving to be equally gutless in the face of militant left-wing fascists.

      FFS man, grow a pair!

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      • BRISSLES says:

        I have just fired off an angry email to Yorkshire Tea, and despite not being able to get through the day without at least 6 cups of Yorkshire Gold, I told them I would shop elsewhere if they persisted with this political agenda. Where does this end, if you’re not catholic you cant buy our biscuits ! if you’re over 70 you don’t need to buy any more clothes !

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      • Charlie Farley says:

        Jeff and BRISSLES
        I emailed Classic FM yesterday and had the standard complaint number back , probably will ignore my comments anyway , so that’s no more Yorkshire Tea and Classic FM for me ……Nationwide Building Society advert I am obviously the wrong colour to have money there …back to cash under the mattress !

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    • Old Goat says:

      I wrote to them yesterday.

      Here are a couple of alternatives, but they are on-line:

      http://radio.garden/listen/classical-for-the-ages-radio/iAzaEDHH

      http://stream.srg-ssr.ch/rsc_de/aacp_96.m3u

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  2. digg says:

    The BBC are determined to rub our racist noses in it today.

    These are all the key headlines on their home page.. A good 90% of all the content there I would guess…

    London statues with slavery links ‘should be taken down’ says Khan

    Why are more people from BAME backgrounds dying from coronavirus?

    The black British history you may not know about

    Raheem Sterling calls for more BAME coaches and leaders in British football

    Lewis Hamilton: ‘Remove all racist symbols’

    George Floyd murder suspect Derek Chauvin has bail set at $1.25m

    That video of George Floyd triggered a lot in me

    The realities of growing up as a black man in Scotland

    A shocking drama inspired by the Windrush scandal

    Learn about the debate with race in America

    Your fight for people who may be different is beautiful

    Hollyoaks investigates racism claims

    KKK leader charged with attack on protestors

    Reebok cuts ties with Crossfit over CEO’s George Floyd tweet

    There are more but I got bored cutting and pasting…

    As for whats going on in the UK you will have to pop over to the Express or Mail I’m afraid

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    • Emmanuel Goldstein says:

      Digg.

      On bbbc Radio newcastle this morning, in between the other virtue signalling goings, on they were supporting the teachers staying off work until at least September for safety because of coronavirus reasons.

      Nobody mentioned that (I have read) only 2 school age children have died (out of 40,000+) with the virus and both had other serious conditions beforehand and that no case of child to teacher case has been identified.
      This is teaching, probably the safest job in the UK yet they won’t go to work because they are frightened.
      Good job the supermarket girls and bus drivers aren’t such a bunch of cowardly softy lefty wimps.

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    • Venutius says:

      Yes Digg, but even when you do, Nigel Farage is ‘Slammed’ in the Express and ‘Blasted’ in the Mail for inciting Racism.

      I listened to the interview on ‘This Morning’. He is rounded upon by three other guests every time he speaks. It’s outrageous.

      The headlines in both outlets should read ‘Militant extreme Leftists shout down guest’.

      There is no opportunity for debate on this subject anywhere in mainstream British media anymore. Facts are irrelevant, reason has left.

      The BBC announced this morning that they had ‘moved on’ from debating whether Britain was institutionally racist. It is simply now an established fact. ‘We want only solutions’ they said.

      You are now dealing with the flat earth society. They are right. No statistics, facts, Taliban comparisons or logic will alter the reality they want to see.

      On another subject Daniel Radcliffe enlightened me this morning. Apparently Trans-woman are Woman? Wow.

      I could argue that every single one of the 23 pairs of chromosomes and internal genes on the ‘Trans-women’ would scientifically argue differently. Given it was Daniel Radcliffe who said it, that world renowned geneticist, I bow once again to a higher truth.

      I say to you all, either the world has gone Mad or I have.

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      • Charlie Farley says:

        Venutius
        Its about time he did the decent thing and fell on his magic wand !

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    • Peter Grimes says:

      IF Black Lives Matter, why do they not matter to…

      Other Blacks?

      https://www.nationalreview.com/magazine/2019/12/22/the-need-to-discuss-black-on-black-crime/

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  3. Beltane says:

    Alarming news that a statue of a one-armed, one-eyed man dressed in offensive military uniform and surrounded by lions in a direct and brutal affront to the disabled, partially sighted and endangered wildlife, is in clear, provocative and confrontational view in a central London square.
    The column on which the statue stands is 52 metres high, so a crowdfunding exercise is needed to get a long enough rope.
    Sign up now!

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  4. Fedup2 says:

    Twitter watch

    Alex deane has put up some clips of Morgan Freeman talking about colour . Its powerful stuff .
    Like saying he doesnt like ‘black history month ‘ – and when challenged by mike wallace – an american jewish journo – mr Freeman says ‘ abd when is jewish history month ? ‘

    You can see for yourself . Another question was ‘ how do we stop racist ?” Answer “ stop talking about it “. Totally agree …
    Confession – i was going to put in a little troll trap but that would be too fun -after catching one yesterday. Sorry max – youre getting old n stale .

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  5. G.W.F. says:

    A Commission to look at our waaycist monuments, making sure they reflect the multiculture we never had a chance to vote for.

    Chinless Tories led by Johnson will accept whatever they suggest. He will have to, the BBC will make sure he does

    ———-

    London Mayor Sadiq Khan has formed the Commission for Diversity in the Public Realm which will review statues and landmarks across the capital to ensure they reflect the capital’s diversity.

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    • cromwell says:

      Boris Johnson could lift his dwindling popularity immediately by proclaiming as prime minister of this great country whatever review Khan comes up with we will not be removing any statues or renaming streets so it would be a complete waste of tax payers money.

      I bet May is glad she has gone, she would have been putting the tyre around her neck and offering the mob some matches.

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    • Zelazek says:

      G.W.F.
      This Commission for Diversity in the Public Realm irresistibly reminds me of the Committee of Public Safety, the de facto government responsible for the Reign of Terror during the French Revolution. Now that I think of it, Sadiq Khan is beginning to resemble Robespierre, “The Incorruptible”. I remember that Robespierre started off as a radical lawyer, not dissimilar to the modern type exemplified by Khan. Famed for his virtue and his opposition to the death penalty, Robespierre’s increasingly fanatical journey into virtue-signalling nevertheless led inexorably to his guillotining thousands of innocent people. Khan, a man who can clearly identify threats to his city and is unafraid to face them, first started to go after images of bikini-clad women on the underground. And now he’s going after statues. Who knows where it will all end?
      (I would suggest to the statues of this country that this would be a good time to come to life and skedaddle.)

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  6. Emmanuel Goldstein says:

    Now that the terrorist organisation antifa (along with all its useful idiots and all the msm) know that any statue they decide they don’t approve of and decide to get rid of can be removed (disappeared?) with impunity and in the full view of the ‘police’, I wonder when we will come to the mass book burnings which are also par for the course for these anarchists.

    I can’t see the Flashman books lasting very much longer followed by other racist books such as Rupert the bear.

    Now that JK Rowling has angered the easily outraged I guess Harry Potter’s days are numbered even with that pipsqueak Ratcliffe trying to worm his way into the lefty good books.
    It never works young Harry. They just keep demanding more.

    I suppose that hate filled African/Norwegian (I think, I may have got part of it wrong but she’s something like that) afua hirsch will become a top seller (when she’s not pulling statues of Nelson or Shakespeare down)

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    • fakenewswatcher says:

      EG – I hope you’re not joking about Nelson, cos bbc tv news at 1.00 has just put the suggestion out there. Apparently Nelson had connections to slavery.
      Bit of a climb, but it won’t stop our BLM/Antifa/Troskyists – given that our gutless government and police will possibly just stand by, for the same reasons the Avon police chief gave.
      BBC also entertaining us to Right-wing extremism and statements about terrorism. Some trial and an official from justice saying handy things.I haven’t been following it, but if it has to do with murder (Jo Cox), I condemn that unreservedly.
      Unlike many ‘liberals’ who would probably see ‘racism’ as the ultimate crime and moral offence, I think murder should remain on that plinth. What I do notice is how convenient the timing us for our public broadcaster to kinda blur the lines between murder/terrorism/the Right Wing. And -of course- a quick implicit -rather than explicit- suggestion that the mob probably isn’t that bad.
      My concern is, that once you allow mobs to have their way, murder is far more likely, as inflamed passions get carried away. We are fortunate that the police officer who “fell off her horse/walked into a traffic light” hasn’t died. Enough said.

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    • The Sage says:

      I watched a documentary last evening on Joseph Goebbels. It was amazing the number of similarities between Goebbels propaganda machine and modern-day Britain such as the curtailment of any views or speech that deviates from the accepted line, the universities who could only teach one view of history and the total intolerance of anyone who was not a Nazi.
      I can see all of this creeping in here and with no divergence by the BBC and others from the accepted view on, say, climate change, racism, British history or on the unnecessary and counter productive lockdown. I’m sure there are other examples.

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      • cromwell says:

        Goebbels was a truly evil man, shows you how totally cruel and corrupt he was, his 5 innocent little girls were murdered by him at the last minute when he knew he was doomed before he and his wife killed themselves. The look of him makes your flesh crawl.

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  7. Fedup2 says:

    GWF
    Now that really is a good quango to get on . It will take years trying to work out how to posthumously ‘judge’ each contestant .
    Then to decide the criteria for removal and what should be done with them

    How will owners be compensated ?

    How about those who refuse ?

    Disagreements about the good and the bad ?

    I might apply for a job on that quango ….

    Corbyn and his momentum people must be chuffed at what they’ve achieved . And the fact that the mayor of London – in the middle of a pandemic – can come up with such a hair brained reactionary idea could … could almost be beyond belief …..
    ….. I’m guessing they’ll want Richard the lion heart down first …….

    .

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  8. theisland says:

    Did anyone hear this on Radio 2?

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  9. StewGreen says:

    1pm news “Far Right beauty queen”
    Sowerby Bridge, West Yorkshire

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    • G says:

      SG,
      The pair of them, misguided but the message of the State having emasculated those on the Right goes forth……………
      All be warned.

      Don’t see ANTIFA on the Gvts. list. I wonder why.

      Click to access 20200228_Proscription.pdf

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      • G says:

        Sorry, the attached list was somehow removed from my comment.
        I’ll try again.

        Help! the web address to the site cannot be included for some reason but appears in the text box

        Click to access 20200228_Proscription.pdf

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      • fakenewswatcher says:

        Miss Hitler beauty pageant? I doubt that Hitler was ‘far Right’. His ideology was National Socialism. His SA were handy at mob intimidation and smashing things up. (sound familiar?) That later on progressed to smashing people up.
        But what we need to notice is that Hitler was a SOCIALIST. Anyone who knows the difference between nouns and adjectives will make the national socialist thing a bit clearer.

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      • cromwell says:

        Well after last weekend it needs to be

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    • cromwell says:

      Then I now expect anyone from Antifa to be prosecuted and given 8 years .

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    • Doublethinker says:

      One rule or some and another for others.

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    • Thoughtful says:

      This one of the Tory Marxist Leader Theresa Mays doings.

      When she was asked by British security to outlaw far left terrorist group Antifa, she refused and chose instead to ban a number of little known groups she called ‘far right’ but which were in reality far left Fascist groups.

      From this the ‘rise of the far right’ was born but the people concerned were more of a danger to themselves than anyone else.

      Consider the damage that the BLM movement of far left extremists has and continues to do to this country and the ‘harm’ these two have caused and ask yourself why the Marxist leader of the Tories did that.

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  10. scribblingscribe says:

    No one has yet pulled down the bust of Karl Marx at Highgate cemetery? Anyone would think the protesters are anti West.

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  11. fakenewswatcher says:

    Miss Hitler beauty pageant? I doubt that Hitler was ‘far Right’. His ideology was National Socialism. His SA were handy at mob intimidation tactics and smashing things up. (sound familiar?) That later on progressed to smashing people up, which is exactly what happens when people don’t follow Law and Order common sense. Ultimately, everyone gets swept up in the passions unleashed and feels you have to Heil Hitler away for all you’re worth. That is the dynamics of the mob. Fear and dispensing with your moral compass cos everyone else seems to be, is the final recruiter-large scale. The SS and Gestapo follow on.
    (In that other form of Socialist murder rule, it might be the NKVD/KGB whatever. Stalin is reputed to have murdered 30-60 million. Read a little Alexander Solzhenitsyn.)
    Next thing, you have a nation that produced Bach, Beethoven, Duerer, Leibniz, Kant etc etc producing rabble-rousers and property destroyers (because the environment is suitable- say, perhaps a virus and a pandemic are about?)
    But what we need to notice is that Hitler was a SOCIALIST. Anyone who knows the difference between nouns and adjectives will make the national socialist thing a bit clearer for themselves.

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    • Teddy Bear says:

      You’re absolutely correct regarding the position of the Nazis being far left.
      I’m reminded of a poster Digger who complained to the BBC after they used the far right definition also for the BNP – who are also lefties.

      Here’s the reply he got from them:
      Dear Mr Digger

      Thanks for your e-mail.

      I understand you have concerns with our presenters and reporters referring to the BNP or similar parties as “far-right” when you feel that this description is inaccurate.

      I can assure you that we carefully consider the terminology before referring to any organisation or person in our news reports.

      The BNP was born out of the National Front – a “national” party, who like many parties purporting to represent the national interests of a particular country, claim themselves to be national socialists. NS is an extremely left wing form of political belief – Hitler’s Nazi party were national socialists, and therefore technically left wing – but so left wing as to appear right wing in their extreme and racist views. The same can apply to the BNP.

      I would like to assure you that I’ve registered your feelings about this matter on our audience log. This is the internal report of audience feedback which we compile daily for all programme makers and commissioning executives within the BBC, and also their senior management. It ensures that your points, and all other comments we receive, are circulated and considered across the BBC.

      Thank you once again for taking the trouble to share your views with us.

      Regards

      Ross Montgomery
      BBC Complaints

      https://biasedbbc.proboards.com/thread/810/bbc-call-left-wing-right

      “So left wing they appear on the right”
      You couldn’t make it up – So with that reasoning from now on we should call the BBC ‘Right Wing’

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      • Van Helsing says:

        Ross Montgomery of BBC Complaints is clearly too stupid to realise how stupid he is. Sadly, the same can be said of far too many people in this say and age.

        I despair. I really do.

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        • cromwell says:

          I wonder what Mr Montgomerys salary is?

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        • Teddy Bear says:

          Van – this is why it is those of an inferior mindset, because for whatever reason they have not developed the ability to think independently, cling to the tenets and ‘reason’ that the left wing espouse.

          The lessons from history that WE need to learn is next time we win the war – we MUST keep hold of the reins of power. Our biggest mistake in the past has been to let go of them simply because we are not interested in power.
          It is only those with an inferiority complex who desire power in an effort to try and prove how really superior they are.

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          • Mustapha Sheikup al-Beebi says:

            “Whoever MUST play, cannot PLAY.”

            James P. Carse in “Finite and Infinite Games”.

            In other words, in the ‘game’ of life (incl. politics) which we are all obliged to play, we cannot afford to treat it like a skittles game (because there are others who are ‘playing for keeps’!)

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    • Up2snuff says:

      fake, you are correct, Hitler was of the Left as was Stalin. That is why initially they had a pact to take over the world.

      The Right:Left thing grew post-WW2 when it was easy for lazy journalists and politicians to refer to Communists as The Left, therefore everyone opposing them (in the USA both Democrats and Republicans) all the way up to 1990/1991 were of the Right.

      Ronald Reagan would be called ‘of the Far Right’ by – it seems to me – many Americans, Brits & Europeans today but actually he was very much ‘a middle of the roader’ who had once been a Trade Union official.

      If the BBC and others, on both sides of the Atlantic and both sides of the English Channel wish to describe people who do not subscribe to all their views as being on the ‘Right’, then I prefer the term ‘Wrongists’ to describe those of the Left.

      That is the International Socialists and the National Socialists and the vaguely Liberal, vaguely socialist, control freaks who have demonstrated over two to three hundred years that they have individually and collectively got just about everything wrong when in power. I have no doubt if Antifa or XR got hold of serious political power in a nation then not only would they get it wrong as ‘Wrongists’ but in addition complete chaos would follow until common sense prevailed and some conservatives fixed the mess.

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      • fakenewswatcher says:

        Snuff – Yup Citizen/Comrade, I often try to trace the wrongists origin, that revolutionary socialist mindset. It seems to lead back to the French and subsequently Bolshevik Soviet revolutions.
        It is very appealing to a certain category of people who are convinced that they are ‘owed’ stuff.
        Somewhere in the dark ages of my postgraduate pol degree, i remember an entire thingee on ‘relative deprivation’. If you see ‘wealthy’ stuff around you every day which you don’t have, you become convinced it is because the owners are ‘privileged’. Add another dimension: if the owners are not of your ethnicity, you could come to certain other conclusions. If they then even sound guilty, well now you have TWO dimensions to show why you’re oppressed.
        If the owners then sound very much like they actually agree with you, well -that’s an incentive to get out there and show off your muscle. Add the guilt thingee you’ve identified, now you have two weapons to get out there and show your muscle.
        I wonder if our government needs this scenario explained to them? Maybe one needs to draw them a picture? Add a copy of the ‘Theory of Permanent Revolution’? And a little about Marx and Engels and the 1848 revolution?
        Naw, too much for them…
        All you have to do is sail along on a wire. Beware of cutters and ice-picks, though, and another Ramon Mercader. There are plenty around…
        The Order of Lenin, not so in absentia, and the ghost of Comrade Stalin await to make it. oh, and lotsa Gucci, Prada, Nike etc

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        • Up2snuff says:

          I could be wrong but seem to recall ‘the Left’ designation does indeed go back to the French Revolution, where the protagonists gathered beforehand to debate and plan what they were going to do in the ‘salons’ and bistros on the Left Bank of the Seine. The Revolutionaries were ‘on the Left’ Bank, hence ‘of the Left’. I also have a notion that the Royalty and landed gentry of France may well have had grander houses and property on the Right Bank. Which would also set up the grievance you refer to.

          Roll forward to a time in the 19th Century when Europe was relatively peaceful and prosperous and travel and migration was free and easy around the globe. Russian, other East European and German intellectuals moved around Europe, often pausing in Paris and doing the salon and cafe thing on the Left Bank. Then they moved further west, in the case of Marx and Engels, settling eventually in England.

          The other thing I forgot to mention that the National Socialists and International Socialists have in common is persecution of Jews. Out of envy?

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          • fakenewswatcher says:

            Snuff – interesting. I thought the ‘Left’ and ‘Right’ came from where members sat in the French Assembly.
            It could, of course, be both, as time revises things.
            e.g. I well remember the world of Comrade Nikita Kruschev. He finally decided that Comrade Stalin was a bad boy, after all. (Could conceivably have been involved in his murder). The Chinese Communists decided he was a ‘revisionist’. So the iron law of Marxism-Leninism turned out to be ‘revisable’ as well. Until Gorbatshov decided to ditch the whole thing, cos it stank and wasn’t viable.
            Strangely, I sense it is now coming back into fashion in Britain, albeit under a new guise. The ‘useful idiots’ of the Soviet Union are also reborn before our very eyes. There was one standing on the head of a statue, before that was ditched in the river. Lenin would have been pleased at the sight. So would Stalin, but he probably wouldn’t have let things go that far.
            Our government, bless it, has now got Councils to put police on guard at targets. Lessons have been learnt, but it could be too little, too late. Which does not mean I don’t admire the courage of the officers posted there. It must be pretty uncomfortable, to say the least.
            Especially with so many useful idiots around.

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      • Thoughtful says:

        It would appear that a deliberate act of revisionism took place in British universities in the 1990s when leftist ‘academics’ began to refer to the Fascist movement as ‘far right’. Before this time everyone knew and accepted that Fascism and Nazism were left wing movements.

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  12. john in cheshire says:

    This 16 minute video by Computing Forever ( don’t let the name put you off, the subject is not computers, though he does mention mad Bill Gates in relation to vaccines), imparts some new information about the virus situation, idiot Ferguson giving evidence to a parliamentary committee, and wicked little Fauci changing his tune yet again.

    https://youtu.be/dVogHLy-NT0

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  13. Cooper_Man says:

    Just been listening to that intellectual powerhouse Raheem Sterling on the Beeb’s webshite (the story is dated yesterday, so apologies if people have already discussed this earlier in the thread) and haven’t laughed so much in ages – every sentence seems to directly contradict another one.

    For an example:

    “The only disease right now is the racism that we’re fighting,” and “Just like the pandemic, we want to find a solution to stop it.”

    What pandemic, Raheem? – I thought racism was the only disease we’re currently fighting.

    This one even contradicts itself: “This is the most important thing at this moment in time because this is something that is happening for years and years.”

    There’s that old saying about opening your mouth and proving yourself to be a fool – Raheem shows that to be abundantly true.

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Coop
      Would hope that thicksters like mr Sterling would stay quiet – I heard he was calling for more black managers . Yet – I – as a whitee – would accept a manager of any colour , gender , height , age , politics ….. who gets the team to win – whatever colour ….merit – and nothing else….

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      • Doobster78 says:

        Weren’t they bringing in that rule, or may even be in , where they HAD to interview a BLACK candidate, no matter what ?

        Illegal, positive discrimination, but hey, as we all know, racism only ever works one way !!!!!

        Sickening stuff . I really wonder how the “token” black interviewee feels knowing they are there in the majority of cases, as a box tick only.

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      • Eddy Booth says:

        You never hear them call for more footballers, or at least one , to have a black wife or girlfriend

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        • Mustapha Sheikup al-Beebi says:

          Once upon a time, footballers’ inarticulacy was of the following sort:

          “Well, you know, Brian, we just kept stringing the passes together and Smithy passed it to me and I just sort of hit it and, you know, it ended up in the back of the net.” If only we could go back to that!

          Now we get SJWs like Lineker (£1.75 million a year) and Sterling (£££s) expressing political opinions that few would listen to if it was someone in the street who wasn’t woke or black.

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  14. StewGreen says:

    Coal free electricity grid
    .. Yeh except coal power enters the UK via the inter-connectors to the European grid
    We have a direct connection to the Netherlands grid & its coal power stations.
    And indirectly from the brand new German coal plant

    Second story has HYS for the GreenDream Taliban to pile into
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-52973089
    Top comment with 321 Likes
    Transporting wooden pellets half way around the world to burn them doesn’t seem very green to me.

    In the first they’ve fired up the backlit cooling tower photo again

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  15. theisland says:

    Apparently there was a minute silence in parliament today at 11am in memory of the death of George Floyd.

    https://www.parliament.uk/business/news/2020/june/minute-silence-in-honour-of-george-floyd/

    WHY??

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    • cromwell says:

      We as a nation are lost, what was that saying Lions led by Donkeys. This once great nation. Is finished if someone in government doesn’t stand up to this. Can you imagine in years to come when history will tell us that we had a minutes silence for a serial criminal.

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      • Doublethinker says:

        Agree totally. Last year Peter Hitchens was on the Delingpole pod cast and he said that he thought that there was no way back for Britain and that sooner or later the mob would be coming for people like him and Delingpole. So rather than continue to fight the fight , as he had done for thirty years , he was going to enjoy the time that was left to him whilst watching the country and much of the West slide into anarchy. Delingpole was aghast that this great warrior should be throwing in the towel but Hitchins was adamant , resistance was futile because there simply was no leadership to rally around . He went on to say that anyone who did try to provide leadership today for the forces of true conservatism would be shut down as soon as they opened their mouth and that in the near future things would rapidly get worse. Ten to twenty years is all he thinks any semblance of old Britain has got before the dystopian brave new world swallows it. Make me glad that I well on the wrong side of sixty!

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        • G says:

          DT,
          Agreed. For my part, I’m on the wrong side of seventy.
          I have grown to recognise that, being childless and without any living relatives, I can safely go toward my last breath with a smile of my face. The end of a line.
          Just the thought of all the apathy out there and the nonsense from weak leaders that don’t recognise where all this is going, makes me smile, even now – wrily admittedly – and no, I’m not on my last breath! Not yet anyway.

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        • Thoughtful says:

          Same things as Douglas Murray, except it isn’t just Britain, it’s the whole of Europe going down the pan mainly because of the idiocy of socialism and the cowardice and uselessness of those who should have stood up and fought it when we had the chance.

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      • JimS says:

        No we are being herded like sheep by the village idiots over the cliff.

           9 likes

  16. Eighthdimension says:

    Little Britain and Come Fly with me pulled from IPlayer, Netflix and BritBox. All came to the same decision to remove the programmes.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-8402623/Little-Britain-removed-Netflix-BBC-iPlayer-BritBox-blackface.html

       13 likes

    • thirstypak says:

      Although ‘Whiteface’ is ok to rent or buy from YT including Sir Leonard du Brumshire’s finest role –

         8 likes

      • TrickCyclist says:

        thirstypak,
        The Wayans Brothers’ 2004 whiteface movie White Chicks is available to view on Amazon Prime, too.
        I recall that Sir Lenny Lenny Len once felt the need to apologise for the sexism of his Theophilus P. Wildebeest character. I’m not aware that he’s ever done the same for True Identity.

           8 likes

    • JimS says:

      Oh no!

      Not homosexual Matt Lucas and gender-bender David Walliams!

      I am devastated.

      Oh the humanity!

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         8 likes

      • Thoughtful says:

        Same thing happened to Cleese too! Alas they are still as stupid as every they were, incapable of applying logic of how we got from their own leftist positions of yesterday to where we are now.

        NO sympathy they did it to themselves.

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  17. Emmanuel Goldstein says:

    Copied and pasted from the DT comments today.

    Jay Harper
    9 Jun 2020 2:50PM
    A reminder to Khan. Mohammed was a slaver.

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  18. BRISSLES says:

    I’d like to know what Trevor Phillips thinks about all these shenanigans. He’s one person I don’t mind listening to, there’s no ‘side or agenda’ with him, and he’s generally spot on in his evaluations.

       28 likes

    • Up2snuff says:

      Well said, Brissles, my dear old thing. (Wish it was a proper cricket season – wonder how Blowers is?)

         8 likes

  19. dafydd says:

    .

    ..will anybody be joining me at 8pm tonight to clap the “Black Lives Matter” campaign, “R” level most probably going to go through the roof, great achievement..

       11 likes

  20. TrickCyclist says:

    BBC News website:
    Lewis Hamilton: ‘Remove all racist symbols’
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/52967675
    In which multi-millionaire race driver (ahem) and deep thinker Lewis tells us:
    “If those people hadn’t taken down that statue, honouring a racist slave trader, it would never have been removed,” he said on Instagram.
    “There’s talks of it going into a museum. That man’s statue should stay in the river just like the 20,000 African souls who died on the journey here and thrown into the sea, with no burial or memorial. He stole them from their families, country and he must not be celebrated!”

    Yes, Lewis. We must remove all symbols that pertain to past oppression and slavery. You go first.

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    • JimS says:

      There can’t be much value in a slave that gets ‘thrown in the sea’.

      Simple economics tells us that African slaves were of more value to the plantation owners than to their compatriots who sold them.

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      • infoquest says:

        Heard today on the BBC that the cargo was insured!

           5 likes

      • Ian Rushlow says:

        Indeed. A fine ‘buck’ (the terminology of the time) sold for around $1,000 in early 19th Century USA, equivalent to around $100,000 in contemporary money. When you invest that amount of money in somebody or something, you tend to look after it rather than abuse it. Much as you might do with, say, a Mercedes-Benz G350d, which goes for between £95,000 – £145,000 today depending on the model.

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    • Charlie Farley says:

      TrickCyclist
      Not forgetting Hugo Boss that he takes money from…..they made superb quality uniforms for the Germans using skilled Jewish workers…now when was that then ?

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  21. BRISSLES says:

    Ok, we’ll get rid of all the statues, then next comes the stately homes, but as a black professor just said on Sky – “remove the statue, remove the deed”. If we do all that, they’ll have nothing to moan about in the future, and all evidence of any wrong doing will have been removed.

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    • TrickCyclist says:

      They’ll always have something to moan about, Brissles!
      Not sure if anyone has brought this up already during the current brouhaha, but remember the iconic 9/11 photo Raising the Flag at Ground Zero by Thomas E. Franklin?

      new-york-firefighters-raising-flag-at-ground-zero-c101070121.jpg

      All the firefighters in the picture were white but a statue based on the photo was planned for FDNY Headquarters in Brooklyn, with the ethnicities of two of the figures changed to black and hispanic. This was despite the fact that these two groups made up only about 6% of the city’s firefighters. The resultant controversy was enough to ensure that the memorial was never erected.
      Does any good ever come of such race hustling?
      https://www.foxnews.com/story/multiracial-ground-zero-statue-offends-some-nyc-firefighters-and-families

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  22. JimS says:

    Is it ‘acceptable’ to have a mayor of London called ‘Khan’?

    Do the actions of Kublai Khan sit well with our ‘modern values’?

    Should people called ‘Khan’ be required to atone for the evils of their ancestor?

    (‘Headlines’ that we won’t be seeing on the BBC webpages any time soon.)

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    • Van Helsing says:

      Exactly, Jim.

      The Mongols were known for their extreme cruelty to those whom they conquered. The destruction of Kiev and the slaughter of its population being but one example of their savagery.

      And then there was the Ottoman Empire – another shower not exactly renowned for their benign attitudes.

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  23. Fedup2 says:

    Government Briefing

    Mr Sharma – the sleeper of the cabinet zzzzzzz -led this gig .lots of ‘laser light focus ‘ on opening shops .

    Luckily Mr Sharma didn’t break into a sweat causing fear that he had the virus like last week in the Commons .

    At least coloured people can get their Big Macs and KFCs now so that’s good ..Maybe they’ll want a few more statues of Colonel Sanders …

    The BBC droid wanted the distancing dropped to 1 metre ( whatever that is 6foot maybe ? ) personally I prefer a 20 feet distance . If coloured people are are more likely to get the virus and maybe carry it so definitely best distanced in Fedup world …
    …. . The C4 droid wanted more bits of the report on covid sensitivity and race published . Maybe it’s the bit which suggests coloured people stay locked down longer than non coloured because their greater risk to their health from exposure to the virus .

    The MSM seems to have a split personality – in the morning it’s celebrating schools staying shut but in the afternoon it wants distancing dropped to a metre and everything – businesses opened up now …..

    I get the feeling Mr Sharma won’t be doing too many more of these gigs …..

    No one cared about excess deaths today or a thousand less on ventilators today compared to last Tuesdays numbers – if you can trust any of them of course ….

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  24. BRISSLES says:

    Wall to wall coverage of a funeral. The media do love a black funeral, this one, Aretha Franklin, Michael Jackson, Kobe Bryant, Prince. Still it justifies all the media correspondents who are based in the US. But I’m sure most of the population in this country will give it a pass.

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    • G.W.F. says:

      How many funerals is Floyd George having? I may be confused, seeing the same one being shown over again, but it seems as if he is getting one each day.

         10 likes

      • BRISSLES says:

        G, I think you are confusing a ‘funeral’, with a ‘memorial’ of which there have been a few since his death, in various cities. Gives an opportunity for lots of black lady singers to air their lungs.

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  25. JamesArthur says:

    R4 Evan Gobsh**e

    Sycophantic weasel (sorry I am letting the Left wing in my argument escape).

    And it seems you can only be black to discuss racism unless you are white and agree with all the rhetoric – No discussion of facts – just unchecked comments and emotions – bit like climate change..
    Led by the BBC and MSM

    I just hope that Boris finds his testicles soon…The Tucker Carlson video earlier summed it all up…this defunding of police is all about the Left taking over the police and nothing to do with racism – well it’s too late here…

    Just caught the bit on Oxford and Cecil Rhodes statue – funny he wasn’t involved in slave trade..so now it is anyone who did anything anywhere in a country that black people existed?

    We must stand up against this thuggery – I hope all of the students and lecturers protesting at Oxford give up their jobs and studies so as not to benefit from his money. Hypocrites

       23 likes

    • Mustapha Sheikup al-Beebi says:

      I hate the way in which Evan Davis and other Beeboids talk piously about the BLM protests and George Floyd hysteria as if these were simply phenomena like heavy rain or eclipses – acts of God, things that just happen and become newsworthy. He, the BBC and others, whip up the hysteria and then pretend to be impartial reporters on what they have helped create and spread.

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  26. Foscari says:

    Is the BBC the marxist anarchist “black lives matter” organization main
    media outlet ? I think it is. The anarchists have been embedded
    in the BBC for years. They have now come completely out of
    the woodwork, and have gained control over the BBC’S news output.

       26 likes

    • Thoughtful says:

      They have only been able to do because of the complete cowardice uselessness and incompetence of the Tory party.

      The BBC know that Boris the bottler (should have trademarked that one now everyone seems to have nicked it!) is never going to have the guts to even stand up to his own shadow let alone them.

         13 likes

      • Oaknash says:

        Mark my words – it is only matter of tie before he “takes the knee”

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  27. fakenewswatcher says:

    beeb TV news at 6 have found another government u-turn.
    Oh, and a certain funeral.
    Oh, and a gathering in Oxford to bring down the statue of Rhodes.
    Now, WHO would have thought…?
    beeb have already put Nelson out there, so I suppose he’s next.
    Hopefully, they will eventually get to Broadcast House.
    Sleep well, Boris.

       18 likes

    • JamesArthur says:

      If they try Nelson – expect resistance….Why do these people hate this country and its history so much – but don’t bother to examine the history of other countries/cultures for these same ‘crimes’ ?

      Where is Boris…?!!

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  28. digg says:

    Under the Proscibed Terrorist Organisation document under The Governments Anti-Terrorist Act it asks the Question:

    What is meant by ‘terrorism’ in the proscription context?

    A. “Terrorism” as defined in the Act, means the use or threat of action which: involves serious violence against a person; involves serious damage to property; endangers a person’s life (other than that of the person committing the act); creates a serious risk to the health or safety of the public or section of the public; or is designed seriously to interfere with or seriously to disrupt an electronic system. The use or threat of such action must be designed to influence the government or an international governmental organisation or to intimidate the public or a section of the public, and must be undertaken for the purpose of advancing a political, religious, racial or ideological cause.

    This surely gives the Government and the Police all the guidance they need in relation to what is going on right now?

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    • fakenewswatcher says:

      digg – too busy standing up/virtue signalling in parliament.
      Then there are those who fiddle…
      (In more ways than one.)

      Looking at Rhodes/Oxford on toxic beeb: who would have thought those ‘anti-viral’ face coverings would become so handy…?

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  29. StewGreen says:

    Local news : two local wildlife parks are in dire straits
    cos the government says they are not allowed to open
    Even though it’s only like taking your kids on a outdoor walk in the country side past fences with different animals behind them.
    That tough on the Yorkshire Wildlife Park
    and Lincolnshire WP.
    They must be aggrieved that people can be crowded in London BLM demos, but people are not allowed even 2m apart to walk past their fences.

       17 likes

  30. StewGreen says:

    Oh now it’s “local sportsmen and their GROWING support for BLM”
    #1 The prog only managed to find a couple who’d go on camera
    #2… why the heck did they have to put droning backing music on
    As it was a public relations advert ?
    which it was the TV basically created a BLM party advert.

       14 likes

  31. Dazed and Confused says:

    Picture of the evening so far..

       27 likes

    • G.W.F. says:

      Dazed and Confused

      Chris Rose
      @ArchRose90·
      I know he’s great but it was a bit much for the protesters to kneel for Peter Hitchens after he arrived.

         7 likes

  32. AsISeeIt says:

    BBC: George Floyd’s funeral under way in Houston

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-52978803

    Thanks for that, BBC. Do keep us updated, won’t you.

       14 likes

    • StewGreen says:

      FFS where I had my tea , there was live funeral coverage blasting out from the BBC news channel.

         5 likes

  33. digg says:

    Funny how the BBC decides that certain groups are oppressed and need help and others should be on the naughty step.

    Early evening news carrying a heart-rending plea for sympathy for “Working Girls” and they don’t mean shop assistants!

    Apparently this “oppressed” minority are having a difficult time making ends meet due to a fall in “trade” and need help despite the fact that they are probably the most dangerous sector of society when it comes to potential Covid spread!

    These “working girls” will obviously not be wanting to pick vegetables for £5 an hour when they can normally make 10 or 20 times that!

       8 likes

    • BRISSLES says:

      Digg, an image springs to mind of copulating couples both wearing surgical masks (or other, depending on predeliction), veterinary gloves, and a Hug screen (look it up) between them.

         4 likes

      • digg says:

        Ha! Ha! Ha! that was very vivid Brissles…
        Gives Social Distancing a whole new meaning!

           2 likes

    • StewGreen says:

      @Digg I think a lot of that stuff moved on line
      Cam girls etc.

      Adverts run “thousands of normal girls want to be your online sex partner”
      no money involved I’m sure

         3 likes

  34. BRISSLES says:

    AsI, Sky have been at it since 4.30 !!! even the daily government briefing was avoided, and we had to look on the website if we wanted to know what was happening in our country.

       9 likes

  35. StewGreen says:

    Is it me or is their a script that presenters on all media read from ?
    #1 GF is almost always introducd fully
    … ” George Floyd who died after police knelt on his neck for almost 9 minutes”
    100% victim

    #2 Then it’s “Edward Colston the Slave Trader”
    See how they have picked the MOST extreme framing from either end
    Colston’s life is summarised in the most extreme simplistic negative way 100% oppressor
    Wheras GF’s negatives are not mentioned.
    It’s not “George Floyd the Career Criminal”
    nor even “George Floyd the reformed Career Criminal”

    So why can’t it be “Edward Colston the rich London Merchant who for 12 years was in the triangle shipping trade involving slavery.” ? or something ?

    It’s never “

       20 likes

    • StewGreen says:

      London Streets will probably be renamed Floyd the Martyr’s Square etc.

         19 likes

      • G.W.F. says:

        A statue of Floyd George pointing a gun at a pregnant woman’s stomach ought to be erected to replace one of the removed trader’s statues.

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  36. Beltane says:

    Priti Patel has been assailed in the commons by black Labour MP Flo someone or other for having the temerity to suggest that her experience of racism is in any way comparable with the ‘real’ racism only the black races experience.
    Just a brief glimpse behind the curtain of reality, in which Indians and Pakistanis despise one another and the blacks, Arabs loathe blacks, whites and browns while the Chinese – who have been and are without doubt the most deeply racist of races for centuries, firmly believe themselves to be infinitely superior to all others bar none. Well, perhaps with the exception of Ghengiz Khan who slaughtered them in their tens of thousands for failing to recognise the ultimate Mongol position in society.
    Also worth noting are the Spanish and Portuguese for their genocide and enslavement of South and Central American tribes, the Americans for eradicating the Plains Indians etc, etc, etc.
    Oh, and I didn’t mention the French, the Belgians, Italians and Dutch.
    But, as the BBC assures us, we’re the worst of them all, not least for trying to give democracy, medicine and a fair legal system through the largest and generally the most benevolent Empire in history. We should be ashaaaamed. One knee is simply not enough.

       33 likes

    • Mustapha Sheikup al-Beebi says:

      Flo Eshalomi, the Labour MP for Vauxhall.

      If you want an image of the decline of Britain, compare and contrast Ms Eshalomi with the previous MP for that constituency, Kate Hoey. I have never voted Labour and have no ‘dog in the fight’ but always respected Ms Hoey, especially her courage over Brexit. The new MP is what Donald Trump would call “another beaut”.

         29 likes

  37. Northern Dreamer says:

    22/5/2017 – BBC BREAKING LATEST – Manchester Arena Bombing – At least 1 muslim is sadly known to have died, and 22 others possibly slightly killed in a largley peaceful explosion. We just want to reassure viewers that all the body parts are there, they are just not joined together anymore.
    Our thoughts are with Salman Abedi’s family. Salman took the full force of the device in attempt to shield other people, says distraught father, Ramadan Abedi. Crowdfunding has already raised over £500,000 to erect a statue in honour of his brave sacrifice, and will be sited on the now vacant plinth at Old Trafford, after the statue of hideously white football manager Sir Matt Busby was pulled down because he had a really annoying Scottish accent.

       38 likes

    • Mustapha Sheikup al-Beebi says:

      When Whites and kuffar are killed by Blacks and Muslims, it’s all “don’t look back in anger” and “fears of an Islamophobic backlash”; when one Black criminal is killed by one rotten cop in Minneapolis, the whole White world has to stop. SICK, SICK, SICK!

         32 likes

  38. TrickCyclist says:

    Gareth Southgate was just on ITV News agreeing with Raheem Sterling in bemoaning the lack of opportunities for black players in football management. He said white people had to do more – step down then, Gareth! Make way for a BAME!
    England Women had a black manager, Hope Powell – she didn’t do so well, did she? They then had their best World Cup result under Mark Sampson – who they ended up getting rid of in a race row!

       27 likes

  39. StewGreen says:

    Little Woke Britain

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  40. StewGreen says:

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    • fakenewswatcher says:

      Stew: I think our twitterer could be in for trouble. In the present day climate you can burn some books with enthusiasm, but others are strictly a no-no. He may well have his facts right, but we are not living in an era where facts are of any consequence.
      Nor would I agree with him. If people feel that is the way, who am I to argue? My opinion is that they are misguided, but the judgement of that is not up to me. As a Christian, I wouldn’t like anyone to burn my book.
      Alas, it wouldn’t surprise me in the least, if that happened. Give the MSM time, and who knows where we’ll end up?

         7 likes

  41. TrickCyclist says:

    As predictable as it is pathetic. Genuflect again, fools!
    “Democrats face backlash after wearing Kente cloth while kneeling for George Floyd”
    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/06/09/democrats-face-backlash-wearing-kente-cloth-kneeling-george/

       7 likes

  42. fakenewswatcher says:

    There seems to be a competition on amongst the MSM to outdo one another.
    On Channel 4 it seems the entire news programme with KGM has been devoted to keeping the pot on the boil. A whole sequence of complainants leading up to an Oxbridge ‘master’ Ms Alleyne holding forth.
    The propaganda has moved on from George Floyd to the slavery issue. Even Cummings, driving to Durham, wasn’t as promising a little earner for the MSM.
    What is striking is how utterly one-sided everything is. KGM managed to get interviewers to Edinburgh to start things up there. The targets are wholly bad. No one is bothered about the good side they may have had. All is darkness. And hypocrisy.
    I remember reading somewhere that those who tore down the statue of Rhodes in Cape Town included Rhodes scholars. We have to go back to good ole Karl Marx’s ‘dialectic’ to find out how such contradictions are resolved.
    Talking about Marx, one notices his statue in Highgate is safe as houses. That may be cos it’s too difficult to count the dead: there are too many of them. Slavery? Try the Gulags.
    Another safe statue is Nelson Mandela. A hero and a saint. No one is going to research the organisation he led before 1994, and what it got up to, it seems. Or the current slaughter of whites in South Africa, because they are white.
    WHITE lives don’t matter. Nor do their achievements.
    All of this shows how little facts and history actually matter, and what appalling double standards there are. History does not really matter either. The MSM are not minded to point this out.
    Strange: Marx, who one would suppose is their favourite, had a great deal to say about history.

       17 likes

  43. Fedup2 says:

    Time for the new thread . I have to hand it to anyone still engaged with the MSMBBC. I really couldnt do it , ta

       11 likes

    • fakenewswatcher says:

      fed – know where you’re coming from. For what it’s worth, it pays to keep your eyes on the enemy.

         9 likes

      • Fedup2 says:

        Fake – yes ive considered going back to it out of duty . I did that for a long time but was breaking too many radios and grinding my teeth too much

        My next door neighbours must have known when the radio was on due to the vile swearing coming from Fed HQ …

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  44. Foscari says:

    May I suggest that the Marxist anarchist media outlet the BBC,
    show some video clips of statues in Palmyra Syria being
    destroyed by the Islamic State(Isis). This should be
    a great help to their brothers out on the streets.

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  45. JimS says:

    Two years old but well worth a watch:

    When you watch the news ask yourself, “who wants me to believe that and why?” (Ever wondered why all the ‘journalists’ have the same take and the same words?).

    Sharyl Attkisson finds that Google’s boss fed the idea of ‘fake news’ to Obama – then they got upset because Trump turned it back on them!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oa7QvcKYGZA

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