Weekend Thread 18 July 2020

The biased Far Left BBC continues to re announce ‘job losses ‘, closing programmes and then ‘saving ‘ them as though we care about them . The truth is that the social campaigning propaganda onslaught is being noticed by more and more people who are forced by law pay for the poison . There is no evidence of ‘diversity of views ‘ from the publicly funded State Broadcaster .

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300 Responses to Weekend Thread 18 July 2020

  1. theisland says:


    Whatever will Doreen say?

    Black Country flag banned by fire bosses who fear the chain symbol is linked to slavery.


    • Up2snuff says:

      This compulsory face mask thing is very strange in the context of the PM’s words this morning.

      The two are completely at odds? Why masks when infections are falling, deaths are falling? If you are about to relax the lockdown PM, why?

      Instead of asking questions, Ed Stourton could only seek to throw rocks at HMG and find ‘confusions’ and ‘difficulties’ with the help of suitably negative reporters and some vox populi.


    • StewGreen says:

      Where’s Doreen Tipton’s opinion ?


      • Thoughtful says:

        If Boris the bottler and his cowardly gang had any backbone they would make false accusations of the meaningless word ‘racism’ a criminal offence – but they haven’t so we have to sit by and watch political cowardice destroy our country.


      • JamesArthur says:

        Much as I disagree with the stupidity and wokeness of the Firebrigade…the inclusion of the link to Eleanor Smith is worthy of the BBC as it was 2017 and nothing to do with this current fire brigade farce.
        She was equally stupid…but still not linked to this…can we try to keep our standards up or soon we will be the NYT 😉


        • StewGreen says:

          James, yes it is unfortunate that the tweeter failed to point out
          #1 Eleanor Smith story was from 2017
          #2 and that it is not directly connected to today’s firebrigade story.
          cos she lost her seat at the last election

          However I disagree that it is totally unconnected, her 2017 campaign must have set the path to the fire brigades decision.

          “Wolverhampton South West MP Eleanor Smith at the time said the design of the flag had been ‘a big mistake’ because it failed to represent the Black Country’s multi-cultural communities.”

          \\ A statement issued by the MP’s local Momentum group called for the withdrawal of the flag.
          Ms Smith said she had not appeared on a photo with other Black Country MPs holding the flag “due to parliamentary commitments”. //


  2. JimS says:

    Just before the 4pm news Radio 4 tells me that I ought to be interested in archiving Black American History.



  3. Dobyns says:

    2 Legs Bad


  4. Fiter says:

    Just cancelled my BBC tax and received my official scare email. I just wish there was a way to tell them how much i hate the socialist Nazi machine they have become


    • Fedup2 says:

      Good for you . The club is getting bigger . Tell them nothing . Ever .


    • NCBBC says:

      Good for you. Mine expires this month. No more tele tax.

      The BBC are not stupid. They know that they are despised by a majority of the population. But they carry on regardless, as they know that they wont get this chance of broadcasting left wing propaganda world wide, hiding behind a global BBC reputation, and funded by the UK tax payer.

      The BBC would rather it is destroyed then reformed and a counter argument or a non-biassed BBC replaces it.

      Nothing else explains its suicidal policy.


  5. Fedup2 says:

    Ben Thomas: Former BBC presenter pleads guilty to child sex offences

    The above is from the wales section of the BBC website – he was apparently busy in wales england and eastern europe .

    He said he modelled himself on a Mr J Saville ( a tiny lie from me )


    • StewGreen says:

      #1 The BBC report it
      #2 They use an honest headline “Former BBC presenter pleads guilty to child sex offences”
      Not the expected “Flintshire *man* pleads guilty”


      • Lord Blagger says:

        Interesting they present it.
        What’s also interesting is on the BBC website no mention at all of the Defund the BBC campaign.


  6. Broadcasting-on-Behalf-of-the-Caliphate says:

    Has anybody noticed a ramping up of the BBC anti-British anti-English agenda that the BBC pass off as “news” ever since former convicted criminal George Floyd was killed way back in May in the United States?

    Originally it was claimed that the four policeman involved in the arrest that led to George Floyd’s death were all white, but it later turned out two were white, one was asian, and the other was black (father from Nigeria). I wonder why it was originally reported that the officers were all white?


    • Scroblene says:

      No need for them to report it, Broaders, most normal people automatically assume they are getting it wrong.

      The BBC aren’t that good at research, their under-managers did politics and vegan-diversity at their academies and got a third…


    • Peter Grimes says:

      “ I wonder why it was originally reported that the officers were all white?“

      I know everyone on here knows the answer but it’s worth stating it anyway – if you get the lie out first on the world’s favourite public service broadcaster, it is around the world before the truth gets out of bed (with apologies to Terry Pratchett).


    • NCBBC says:

      Wonder indeed.


  7. StewGreen says:

    @PaulWoodthorpe tweeted
    #IStandWithJeremyAndLaura is trending because some Twitter prats are angry that journalists are harassing Jeremy Corbyn outside his house.

    Didn’t hear those same prats complain when Dominic Cummings family endured it for several weeks though.


  8. StewGreen says:

    Sopel The Hate-Pusher-General wrote a Times article


  9. JamesArthur says:

    Just caught end of Feedback R4..apparently they are stopping the Inside Business programme – one of the few good programmes on R4.

    Typical – one of the few that actually was of interest to the rapidly declining number of listeners –
    And apparently Sarah Sands is standing down from PM to be replaced by Owenna Griffiths – who is cited as having great editorship in producing Covid Chronicles, where listeners have shared their own experiences of the pandemic, and the award-winning seven-part series Anatomy Of A Stabbing. WTF
    Did anyone actually listen to the Covid Chronicles?? I could have dished that up whilst dozing on the settee – getting your chosen subjects to talk incessantly about themselves doesn’t take much effort
    And anatomy of a stabbing – I didn’t listen but at a guess she probably got somebody to talk out their experiences….

    If this is the best R4 have – fewer listeners than ever before

    Switching R4 off now as it is a continuation of TWATO and just anti Govt narrative –
    How often can Andy Burnham be on BBC about covid …without mentioning Muslim/Islam in context of local outbreaks and keep blaming Govt for everything.


    • Denton says:

      Try commercial radio which now makes the BBC look very second rate – talkradio, times radio and LBC. Also LBCnews radio.


  10. StewGreen says:

    Sadiq’s city of Khanife crime & shooting


    • NCBBC says:

      Even if Khan goes, the community that elected him, is growing rapidly.

      London, the greatest city in the world, second to none, has been destroyed by unrestricted immigration, legal and illegal, of a people who are hostile to the culture of Britain, or are just unable to live a law abiding life. The latter simply like to have the goodies created by White men, without paying for it. They are just parasites , who live off the economy created by White men. These demographic also have a very birth rate.

      Future of the country that created the Global Engineering, Scientific and Technological civilisation, is not good.


  11. pugnazious says:

    Shouldn’t this be the BLM salute instead of the clenched fist?


    Funny how the BBC always wants to keep them in oppressed servitude, ever reliant on the help of their white saviours to lift them up…just a little ways.

    The BBC is very keen on blaming all Black people’s alleged ills on ‘whiteness’….white privilege. ‘White Privilege’ as a term is no different than using the word ‘Nigger’…it’s meant as a term of abuse, to demean, demonise, belittle, marginalise, to ‘other’, and to silence….as the BBC’s very own racist anti-white podcast proclaimed….white women should get out of the way, stop being so loud, shut up…just go away.

    They tell us that you’re ‘privileged’ because being white means you don’t have to think about your skin colour and thus you don’t suffer racism…which of course is complete tosh….just ask Paddy, Taff, Jock, Yank, Scouser, Yokel, Brummie, Polack, Frog, Fritz, Sassenach, Ginge…..I could go on.

    ‘”As a white person living your life, everything is built for and normalised for you – you have a free pass to live your life as you want without thinking about your race.”‘

    ‘White Privilege’ is a racist term of abuse and the BBC should stop using it…along with ‘male, pale and stale’…which combines three abuses in one….sexist, racist and ageist.

    The National Museum of African American History in the US employs similar language and narratives about whites and the sin of ‘whiteness’….would they object if we spoke of the problem of ‘Blackness’ in a similar way as a sin?

    The Museum has published a long tract decrying and demonising ‘whiteness’ and published a chart in it describing what‘are common characteristics of most U.S. White people most of the time.’ whilst suggesting the imposition of these upon Black people, or expectations that they might aspire to any of these characteristics, is racist….they have their own culture and ways of life and of doing things.

    The museum had to remove the chart from the article but didn’t edit anything else out…. its basic racist anti-white premise is still there…..‘Whiteness and white racialized identity refer to the way that white people, their customs, culture, and beliefs operate as the standard by which all other groups of are compared. Whiteness is also at the core of understanding race in America. Whiteness and the normalization of white racial identity throughout America’s history have created a culture where non-white persons are seen as inferior or abnormal.’

    Just not true these days.

    The chart came from a white academic in the 70’s…naturally one of those white saviours…as always getting it completely wrong.

    Of course it is highly insulting to black people in that it suggests they do not have, or value, the same characteristics…..like wanting success, individualism, hard work, being on time, wanting progress, wanting to get things done…being Christian….yep…coz there just aren’t any Black Christians…God knows where all that Gospel music came from!

    But this is the same attitude you’ll hear peddled on the BBC with the presenter nodding along in agreement and adding their own two penneth worth….Blacks [and Muslims] are innately different from Whites and should be able to live their lives in an authentically ‘Black’ way and not be expected to conform to ‘white’ things like respecting authority or working hard or having a nuclear family….’cultural appropriation’ is all part of this same narrative and if you listen to the likes of Afua Hirsche on her many BBC interviews you’ll come to the conclusion she wants a separation of the races as she talks of black pride, black nationalism, black power and cultural theft….the BBC laps it up.

    Rather than the racist Hirsch, whose initials aren’t the only thing she has in common with Adolf Hitler, let’s hear more from guys like this who put the BBC et al to shame…..


    • NCBBC says:

      The giveme giveme culture that bites the hand that feeds it.

      Look at the boatloads of Africans and Muslims who wish to be part of the giveme culture, while it lasts.


  12. Foscari says:

    Look at “BITESIZE” on the BBC internet main page. ” 10 pieces
    of classical music you didn’t know you knew.”
    This feature shows EVERYTHING what the BBC has become!
    I have visited the Domenican Republic several times where
    approximately 15% of the population is of Caucasion
    ethnicity . Their representation on TV is pretty similar to
    what we now see on the BBC website.


  13. pugnazious says:

    You ain’t black if you do any of dis…..



    • Kaiser says:

      Honestly that read like a recruiting flyer for the KKK, it is hard to beleive it not a meme.

      But oddly its not, its developed by 2 white femanists apparantly


    • Fedup2 says:

      Pug – a fascinating insight into the mental well being – or lack of it – by the covern who put it together . I guess they’d prefer an ELE to reset the evolutionary clock and have a world designed the way they want it …

      … I can’t take too long looking at it but it’s interesting that the term ‘freedom ‘ and ‘democracy ‘ and’ choice ‘ don’t feature..

      Nor does affordable food and clean water and medicine ….and capitalism / the invention of money and the contract

      Funny how the vast majority of that stuff is something to be proud of ….


    • Emmanuel Goldstein says:

      If you could somehow put all the whites into Africa and all the blacks etc into Europe and the USA I would bet that within 40 years Africa would be the world leader and prime economic power.
      Then you would be getting all the blacks etc setting off in their rubber dinghies to cross the Med and try to get into Africa to live off the whites (again)


    • NCBBC says:

      pug–You ain’t black if you do any of dis…..

      According Joe Biden- you ain’t Black if you vote for Donald Trump.


  14. StewGreen says:

    ITV localnews
    coming up long item about Leeds getting promoted
    with *the Singh Family*

    First item : worship of Sir Tom Moore
    he raised £30m for the NHS

    since the NHS uses £20m per hour
    if Tom’s ceremony started at 2pm the NHS would have used up all the money by the time 90mins later when he was eating his canapes.

    #2 Rishi Sunak live from Richmond
    very unusual that a Tony is given airtime.


    • NCBBC says:

      We have “world beating” mortality rates due to cv 19. Has the NHS claimed credit for this?


  15. Guest Who says:

    If they don’t, what can Jon Sopel RT… when not doing that ‘we are not like other fake news’ in the Times?


    • StewGreen says:

      #FakeNews as it is edited contextless video to stir outrage
      It’s easy to spot earlier Twitter video of the white couple being aggressive
      but there might have been even earlier events.

      FFS there are even warnings all over the top of that thread.


  16. StewGreen says:

    South Yorkshire maize maze
    spelling “Thank you NHS”
    open for next six weeks.


  17. Fedup2 says:

    The BBC still shows its colonial roots . This time it is interested in the lifespan of a judge in the US supreme court . She is 87 and just announced her cancer is back . She is a lefty so the BBC is praying that POTUS will not get the opportunity to appoint a right winger .


    • NCBBC says:

      I wonder how many Whites have been murdered by Black men.

      Have they been normalised by population numbers? It wouldn’t surprise me that Black men have murdered and committed far more racial crimes then White men.


  18. StewGreen says:

    6:49pm “6 weeks ago George Lloyd died
    .. we look back to see if there have been any changes in our area”

    Seems like a student video collage project
    Heavily features a Hull Labour councillor.

    After 3 minutes the poor presenter just moved on

    Ah it was the Guy Gibson dog gravestone story
    he read out in a perfunctory manner.


  19. Thoughtful says:

    Personally I can’t imagine a worse crime than the rape of a child, perhaps worse is the gang rape of a child, or maybe the fact that the rape is occasioned because of the race / religion of that child.

    So now as yet largely unreported is the uncovering of a second Pakistani Muslim rape gang in Rochdale.


    As we hear news that the original perpetrators who should have been deported have not been despite the false promises of the cowardly useless incompetent Tories are still here laughing at the idiotic antics of weak minded fools who pay for their lawyers from money they steal from other children as yet unborn who are going to have to pay for it.

    Now I know some Tory lovers here don’t believe their beloved party should be criticised, but I have to say, your party appears completely OK with child abusers living amongst us and are assisting them in their efforts to remain here.


    • Lord Blagger says:

      I did some analysis of the convicted. Were they born in the UK?

      In some cases that is a clear yes. However, that doesn’t say if they have dual nationality or can obtain it.

      Second, in some cases if the name is common, you can’t tell.

      In other cases, its clear they weren’t born here.

      Of the 56 cases the break down is

      7% stripped of citizenship but still walking around.
      2% fled and were extradited
      25% I can’t tell because the name is comming
      34% were born here, but see above. A large number will probably be dual nationals or can claim another nationality
      36% were clearly not born here.
      [Rounded to nearest %]

      The problem lies squarely with the scum at the Home Office.


      • Thoughtful says:

        Doesn’t matter if they were born in the UK, as we now know from German precedent set in the European Human Rights Courts, the offspring of first generation migrants can be deported if they are convicted of criminal behaviour.

        Regardless as you say the problem lies with the government (cowardly useless incompetent Tories) who are in charge of the Home Office (including the Marxist T May) and who have done absolutely nothing to get people back to countries where they belong.

        BTW you can bet they’d be quick enough to get rid if they were white!


        • Lord Blagger says:

          Doesn’t matter if they were born in the UK, as we now know from German precedent set in the European Human Rights Courts, the offspring of first generation migrants can be deported if they are convicted of criminal behaviour

          That requires a change in UK law. My view, the Home Office should be allowed to apply for nationality for prisoners on their behalf on grounds of descent. Then they can be stripped of UK nationality and deported.  

          The real question is why the Home Office hasn’t deported all the Grooming gang rapists as a matter of course.

          They were locked up. They should have sorted it out then and deportation should be a direct consequence of the original sentence. If you can’t win the appeal on sentence then there is no appeal bar that of being deported to a country where there is a total war. In the interim you stay in prison.


  20. StewGreen says:

    Kelvin’s opinion on ITV London


  21. infoquest says:


    Been aht an abaht on mi travels today.

    1. Talking to a lady – she tells me that her granddaughter works at the LGI [Leeds General Infirmary] and they have no-one in the Covid ward.

    2. Talking to a nurse from the Huddersfield Royal Infirmary ICU ward – not had a single Covid-19 patient for 4 weeks.

    Huddersfield is in Kirklees, the area with the second highest spike in positive test results. So clearly those that are testing positive aren’t poorly enough to need hospital treatment.
    So what are all those NHS bods on the dedicated Covid wards doing?
    Why aren’t we being told this by the govmnt or the MSM?
    And what is this all about? What is the big aim?
    Just reportin’ what i’s been told.


    • NCBBC says:

      The government told everyone that if they they suspect cv-19, to stay at home. And those who are ill in other ways , to stay at home too.

      No wonder.


  22. StewGreen says:

    All TV channels keep airing this weird advert
    “Our Stories are always Woke Stories”

    note the the 2 heavy doom chunks of Attenborough at the end
    Hashtag #OurStories


    • Lefty Wright says:

      I expect that the next thing you know the Black Dyke Band will be forced to change it’s name which is seen by the Marxists as both racist AND homophobic.


  23. Dobyns says:

    You just could not ever make this kind of sh*t up



    • StewGreen says:

      Summary of @Dorbyn’s link
      Teen Vogue published an article titled “Black Power Naps Is Addressing Systemic Racism in Sleep,”
      which argues that blacks have shorter lives than whites
      because they were denied sleep during slavery,
      and thus reparations must be given in the form of time off from work for naps.


    • Halifax says:

      It must be a joke……


  24. Thoughtful says:

    Think BLM is something new? Think again it’s been going on ever since they got here!


  25. pugnazious says:

    The man’s total lack of self-awareness, or his brass-necked dishonesty, is jaw-dropping….(Via Is the BBC biased?)….Jon Sopel boasts about British news and its balanced, impartial coverage…

    ‘British broadcasters must resist adopting the adversarial tone of US cable news networks that have been “driven mad by their hatred of Trump”, the BBC’s man in Washington has said.

    Jon Sopel, the corporation’s North America editor, said that some anchors on networks such as CNN and MSNBC “can barely conceal their contempt” for the president.

    “They detest him, they loathe him,” he told the Media Masters podcast. “There is no attempt at giving impartial news.”

    Sopel, 61, said that the partisan nature of American TV news — including the Fox network, which is supportive of Mr Trump — did a disservice to viewers, who no longer saw their own opinions challenged.’

    This is the man who blocked me on Twitter because I pointed out every time he lied…which was pretty often and egregiously, not to mention on serious matters….not really concerned with accuracy and impartiality…..certainly doesn’t like his ‘mistakes’ being pointed out.

    This is the man whose Twitter feed is one long sneer at Trump and his supporters…never a good thing to say about them, ever….and his every waking moment seems to be devoted to proving Trump said or did something wrong or someone close to him did….even mocking the placement of an apostrophe on the cover of a book by Trump Jr recently.

    Guess when David Jordan said that senior BBC staff were addicted to toxic Twitter and were bedevilled by a desire to go viral which could overshadow an editorial necessity for impartiality and accuracy he would include Sopel.

    Sopel’s claims are just part of the on-going torrent of BBC propaganda that seeks to put the BBC in first place…its main tactic seems to be to trash all its rivals, including social media, claiming none of them can be trusted whilst proclaiming that the BBC is the only one you can trust.

    The BBC wishes to take control of the right to decree what is and what isn’t, not only true, but even the morality of something or event, to define what is fake news, what is the correct view to have on anything, what is ‘acceptable’ and what is not, and of course it gives itself the power to label anyone it doesn’t like as ‘Far-Right’ or racist, cancelling them, making them a non-person.

    The BBC is extremely sinister and getting ever more so…it is literally dangerous as it divides us and sets us against each other.



    • Fedup2 says:

      Pug – the development of the BBC into an undeclared campaigning organisation – well outside the Charter – is a new development – In my view – which got going With climate nonsense and Brexit and has now grown with the new Marxist movement using colour as a cover .

      I suppose the next campaign will be ‘age guilt ‘ – why are you still alive over 60 ? Or whatever …. particularly if you are whitee…and even more particularly hideously white . ….

      As for Sopel – I think the bunker mentality -and the self regard – extinguishes and self doubt that he and all those of his type – are just plain hostile to Donald Trump as a human being yet alone a POTUS .

      There will be so many reasons to be sad if he doesn’t get a second term because if he does – I think we will see real change to the way things are done ……


    • Guest Who says:


      Blocking people for pointing out things bbc staff don’t like pointed out is the new transparency. Apparently. Trust them.

      And ‘of color’ is the new orange.


    • JamesArthur says:

      Couldn”t agree more re Mr Sopelbox and BBC
      I listened to R4 yesterday interviewing a chap about UV light to kill covid…its being used and developed.
      Now we all remember BBC slagging off POTUS…calling him stupid..
      When he mentioned it on a speech….funny they seemed to have forgotten that when it is being used…
      Typical BBC…morons at work


      • Guest Who says:

        Not long after the MSM were wilfully screaming misrepresenting about him advising chugging Dettol and firing tanning rays through your eyes, I kept finding science-reviews based on just the basic theories he was in fact suggesting. There’s actually a UV product on kickstarter.

        The media stopped banging on as they got more prevalent, but on social media pea brains were still doing what they had been programmed to do. I found they reacted poorly to new input.


      • NCBBC says:

        I too remember the American MSM and our world beating BBC, slagging Pres Trump for suggesting UV light to kill CV-19. It was just an off the cuff suggestion, as he was genuinely concerned. But the MSM, and our BBC made fun of Pres Trump as an idiot.

        It so happened that an American company was already doing so, using a refined optical fibre to convey UV to parts where it was needed in the body.

        Using UV light to destroy small particles is normal. One tunes UV light to a wavelength around the size of the virus. So if cv-19 diameter is 150 nm, one tunes the UV wavelength to be around 150 nm (taking complex refractive index into account). This ensures maximum absorption.

        Surely the world beating BBC knows that. This is genuinely settled science.


      • NCBBC says:

        Also remember the BBC joining the mob baying Pres Trump for suggesting some sort of detergent that could clean the inside. Here was a man that loves his country and people, desperately trying to find a solution, unlike politicians who think of their re-election first.

        But Donald Trump has a way that sees a truth before anyone else does. There is a detergent to clear the place where the cv-19 lodges first, before making its way to the lungs. Its mouthwash. A mouthwash in the morning and evening is not just a favour to your near and dears, but possibly a first line of defence against cv-19.


  26. Sluff says:

    Caught a bit of Newshite.
    A reasonable discussion about Coronavirus. Except……..
    a lady Professor of Doom and Gloom at UCL had been carefully selected and was given free rein to argue by inference that the economy should go to ratshit in order to get CV19 levels down to near zero. Pretty much unchallenged.

    What the BBC don’t pick up is to ask such people whether they have been furloughed or on short time working or reduced pay.

    The point being that the University merchants of doom and gloom have no skin in the game. They argue for coronavirus policies which result in economic ruin and mass unemployment, while they sit there on full pay and with total job security in their cozy ivory towers, totally immune from the effects of their policies.

    In other words ……not unlike the BBC.


    • NCBBC says:

      Standards at UCL have fallen. They got rid off a Nobel prize winner to kowtow to baying racist mobs. I was at UCL way back in the 60’s. It pains me to see clueless profs of the present- educated in the last two decades.

      So too standards at Cambridge and Oxford. One is likely to get a better education in STEM going to a community college.


      • Dave S says:

        i was at university in the 60s but disliked it and had to leave. Maybe spending two weeks in France in my second year spring term did not endear me to them. Got away with Ireland in my first year though. Never regretted it for a moment. I had really enjoyed school and the first rate masters teaching me there . The university was a let down and not for me. I really wonder just how many of the vast numbers that now go want to be there.


  27. Dobyns says:

    Seen elsewhere from America …


    You think that everything will return to normal. It will not. This is just the beginning of the normalization phase. The pieces are slowly being put in place for a society that will deny you its services for failing to conform.

    The spiritually dead, driven by fear, and secure in the protection of group think will enforce this new norm for fear of standing out.

    They fear, more than anything, that their emotional investment in virtuous compliance will somehow be refuted, leaving them feeling as they have nothing left to cling to. Their selfless devotion to the herd mentality is their only identity.

    Soon, mandatory masks, enforced not legally but through mob rule, will turn into covid free papers and vaccinations. The New England Journal of Medicine has already admitted their goal is to enforce vaccine compliance through employer based mandates.

    They are studying our reactions and learning what makes us comply, what drives our fear and, at what point we will cave. The type of pressure they will apply to the mask deniers will be adapted and applied to non conformers of all kinds the longer this goes on.

    We are witnessing the creation of the new Khmer Rouge. Conforming to government dictates for the good of the state will soon be the highest virtue, the highest level of moral behavior. And it is reinforced by everyone who complies.


  28. Nibor says:

    Next Thursday 8.30pm Radio 4 the business programme with Evan Davies .

    How Can Companies Become More Diverse ?

    Now those who have run a company , especially a company set up from scratch , without huge , without any , reserves of cash know that the first priority is survival . Not profits , that’s a luxury if you survive , but getting ready for the next Knock ( of non payment , new legislation etc ) .
    If you are surviving and doing well you might need to employ someone or some people .
    So you want honest folk , hard working , proficient and qualified for the job , adaptable , healthy ,intelligent and with a good attitude .
    Also nice to have is a cheerful disposition , loyalty , camaraderie .
    You don’t want any diversity from that .

    You certainly don’t want any of the opposite to that plus
    Grievance people
    People who need special needs
    People who need different holidays
    People who have easy access to the courts of perceived slights , with pressure groups behind them
    People who can’t properly speak the language
    People who need the infrastructure to be altered

    Big corporates can be indulgent with their declared aims , especially banks . But imagine if you went to the most woke of banks with a business plan that was based around diversity ?

    Of course if you’re a billion pound entity that could extract money from the ordinary Joe whether he wanted your services or not you could afford to be the most diverse thing in the world only beaten by that other monolith , a government department . Or tax funded charity .


    • StewGreen says:

      Sounds like a repeat, or maybe they had a similar show

      in Oct 2017 they had
      “Is there a business case for having a diverse workforce?
      The Bottom Line
      Does a mix of talents lead to better companies and translate into more profits? ”

      other Radio4 diversity progs


    • popeye says:

      Nibor, it was just such a subject as this that first “woke” me up to the liberal nonsense that is the BBC. It was about 20 years ago, I’d been an avid listener to Radio 4 for many years before that, with the radio on from first thing in the morning until I went to sleep at night. I particularly enjoyed the 6.30 comedies mid-week and the specialist programmes. I remember, with affection, a 30-minute programme about the semi-colon. That, to me, was what radio 4 was all about.

      Then, one day I was listening to a consumer programme (I’m pretty sure it was “You and Yours”). The gist of it was that a Nigerian woman, a recent immigrant, had applied for a job at a small company, possibly like you describe above, for the position of telephone sales and support. The trouble was that she had very poor English and did not understand how to use the equipment the company had. Not surprisingly, she did not get the job; also not surprisingly she complained to a convenient support organisation who contacted the BBC. The spokeswoman for the organisation explained that what the company should have done is to employ this woman plus the woman who did get the job, but the latter would have been on a six-month temporary contract and would have been tasked with training the Nigerian until she was proficient. Then the indigenous woman would be required to lose her job to be replaced.

      You do not have to be a business person or an accountant to see the obvious flaws in this proposal, particularly the totally unnecessary cost of salving the social conscience of a liberal luvvie. What had me, as a small businessman at the time, shouting at the radio was that at no time was the proposal questioned , not even one word; the interviewer totally accepted that the primary role of businesses was social welfare, not profit making.

      From that moment on, instead of letting the words wash over me, I analysed every programme and quickly saw the liberal bias I had been subjected to. I still listened, but far more critically, until one Sunday morning on the way to golf, I was listening to a Radio 4 religious programme; the subject was the Devil. There was a vox pop on the question “when you hear ‘the Devil’, what do you think of?”. The very first answer was “Margaret Thatcher”. My radio from that moment on has never been back to Radio 4 or any other BBC programme.


    • Guest Who says:

      It is a massive issue, dominated by people in power without the slightest clue about what they are pontificating about.

      Beyond the fact that most politicians now are irredeemably thick opportunists, most have come from backgrounds that are utterly isolated from business realities, and straight into a protective bubble that is even more so, free from fiscal consequence.

      As is any bbc staffer. Even the fragrant Evan.

      Life is not ideal. And things are very different at the s end of an SME to the upper echelons of the public sector money tree.

      Shamina announces she is again knocked up in the canteen at Westminster or W1A, and everyone celebrates yet another happy event and future PPE or journalism undergraduate, and drop a note to HR to deliver a sub for the required period of cover. And of course the fit must be right, meaning no Karens to upset Faisal, Emily and Charlotte*.

      Bit trickier when not blessed with limitless resources and no fiscal realities.

      So, Evan, a period of quiet reflection would be most welcome rather than airing that unsavoury piehole again.

      *As a karmic aside, I recall the rueful irony of the Law Society of all entities having to address an expensive spat involving two senior staff of ovary, with one being additionally blessed with West Asian people skills. The resulting melanin/attitude catfight was quite special and, iirc, the solution was to pay everyone off to make it go away. Not an option in a company where headcounts are low and the funds for extraneous costs come out of the owner’s mortgage.


    • Deborah says:

      Whenever I applied for a new job I always explained at interview that I would require to take leave for my religious holidays and it wasn’t negotiable. If they didn’t want to employ me on that basis, fine with me. But i didn’t expect them to renege on this and they never did. One of my bosses had worked in West Yorkshire where she explained than non Christians got, not only Christmas holidays and Easter off but their own religious holidays as paid leave. I would have expected to work Easter and Christmas if I had paid leave for other festivals.


  29. StewGreen says:

    Who’s in the Big Bother House ?
    a house of preachy people who bother us

    Meghan Markle, Harry, Lewis Hamilton, Piers Morgan, Owen Jones, Ash, Jeremy Vine, YasminAB, JoB, etc.

    Mind you he BBC is building is basically a Big Bother house full of wokists.


  30. StewGreen says:

    Mallen Baker Show
    In this round-up of the week,
    – Joe Biden announces there’s just 9 years left to save the planet and tells us how he ‘s going do it.
    – The New York Times and the BBC are accused of institutional woke bias.
    – a YouGov poll, the British people say they don’t support laws to make it easier for trans gender people to transition


    • Broadcasting-on-Behalf-of-the-Caliphate says:

      Fabricate a crisis (nine years to save the planet) for a pre-prepared solution (vote Joe Biden to the Presidency).

      This is standard George Orwell and what David Icke has been going on about (if you ignore Icke’s excesses).


  31. StewGreen says:

    R4 weekend Profile is Roger Stone
    It’ll be a hit job
    and a means in the BBC’s campaign against Trump
    ..and helping the Democrat party


  32. BRISSLES says:

    Possible strain on the NHS in the winter months if a second wave hits combined with flu cases. Hmmmmm, well should it happen, lets hope they don’t shame themselves again, and offload still poorly geriatrics back to their Care Homes quicker than grease lightening ! I wont be ‘thanking’ them anymore due to this travesty that came to light. One day it could be me they’re medically coshing as I’m shunted out of the door !


  33. Halifax says:

    Police in London seen kneeling on black man’s neck
    As expected UPROAR the BBC report sites quotes from witnesses using words such as EXECUTION…..The mayor demands an enquiry……if you read into it the bloke was arrested for carrying a knife in public, but that doesn’t matter its have a go at the police tine again…all stirred up by the BBC using our money to stir up race tensions where none existed.

    The BBC are desperate for a UK Geoerge Flloyd.


    • taffman says:

      One day soon Al Beeb and Mayor Khant will call on the police for help. Let us hope that Al Beeb gets de funded before that. Lots of murders in Londonistan at the moment. There are dark forces at work trying to create anarchy in the city.


    • Peter Grimes says:

      “ The BBC are desperate for a UK Geoerge Flloyd.“

      And with the convenient availability of someone to record the arrest, who wouldn’t think about the possibility of a set up?


  34. StewGreen says:

    5:58am Mahamed Hashi on Radio4 finishing up saying
    ‘we Somali’s have to get more representation on police committees etc’
    … prog ends ..trailer about daily refugee drama girl taken
    (BTW that is repeat, true story of guy smuggles Muslim in from Calais only to find the guy is bad)
    News starts
    … boohoo nasty police have knelt on black guys neck
    .. he’s been charged over possession of knife
    .. American 60s civil rights guy has died, he was in this years BLM stuff. Black senator John Lewis , Democrat Party.


    • StewGreen says:

      Someone on Twitter complains Mahamed Hashi is one of 4 heading BLMUK
      I didn’t find any evidence of that.


      • Peter Grimes says:

        Dr Mahamed Hashi to you…but look how he acquired his title …

        “ In 2016 he was awarded an Honorary Doctorate in Philosophy by London Metropolitan University in recognition for “outstanding work with young people and the wider local community”.

        LMU, you know, just about the bottom of the Youni league table, the one where 70% of the students are foreign, don’t attend and student loan scams are prevalent.


    • Up2snuff says:

      I noted on R4 that the tribute to John Lewis came from Nancy Pelosi, Democrat Leader in the House.

      Joe Biden has become almost invisible since accepting the Democratic nomination to run for President in the November election.

      Ooops, I should have read from top of the page downards! OK, on R4 Biden is invisible. There are lots of Americans in the UK who can vote in November. Am sure the BBC would like them all to vote for Joe.


  35. Scroblene says:

    You’ll probably know Raedwald, but here’s his excellent post which will keep the pressure going well…



    • Fedup2 says:

      Interesting comparison about the fight for a deunionised press back in the 80s versus the fight to end the lefty controlled BBC …


  36. StewGreen says:

    6:30 Farm prog starts, a special about seasonal workers
    They were claimed 99% are foreign
    A British student spoke he said standards were appalling
    like there were no toilets for girls in the field
    …doh never was when I worked in Australia

    .. but genuine claims were made like that the Covid rules were totally ignored ..ie shoved on a bus.

    Charity LincsEU said that foreign workers were used cos they don’t know about sick pay etc.
    and spoke of a site where all English workers were just dismissed.


  37. Guest Who says:

    Utterly ignorable tripe, however brought to my twitter feed by the fact Lewis Goodhall liked it.


    • R P McMurphy says:

      Bloody ell’ someone can trace their family back THREE generations, to that area.


    • theleftwilleatitself says:

      I see Jess Phillips has changed her twitter photo from that strange one where she was sat on a stool in the shape of a right angle ????
      Still Jess, you can put lipstick on a pig, but…….. ????????????


    • John Standley says:

      Can’t see the original tweet and don’t care for Phillios (my MP) but she is right in that most of us Brummies use ‘mom’, not ‘mum’.


    • John Standley says:

      Can’t see the original tweet and don’t care for Phillios (my MP) but she is right in that most of us Brummies use ‘mom’, not ‘mum’.


  38. StewGreen says:

    BBC panel
    – No white men
    – .. are any Brexiteers ?
    … ALL London Roz is based in London, Dawn is ..Bet Sara is
    … Bobby’s not a northerner is he ? Place of birth: East Ham, London
    All 3 women’s Twitter accounts are marked as London.


    • Guest Who says:

      Dawn, or the bbc, going to reference this one?


    • Fedup2 says:

      Wow – 4 remainers – that’s a change …a dame , a baroness …. and two coloured people – interesting diversity …. I suppose ‘bobby’ is there to be the ‘funny guy ‘…


  39. Peter Grimes says:

    Em Mateless is,for a reason I can’t quite fathom yet, on the front cover of today’s Times Magazine (UK paper version).

    I think she is guilty of cultural appropriation because she appears to have whited up rather than her habitual light mahogany.


  40. Guest Who says:

    Two tweets that appeared together made me ponder further on how ‘essential‘ the MSM has rendered itself.


    • Halifax says:

      Its only a matter of time before the poilce work to rule ….who would put up with the crap they have to put up with…..i wouldnt


  41. Guest Who says:

    Some attend* pubs because they have no TVs. And not just because of licence legality.

    *Currently still sending representatives to collect Takeaways.


    • Guest Who says:

      Lewis has back up.


    • Fedup2 says:

      Behind this desperation must graphs of ‘Newsnight ‘ viewing numbers heading for the big ‘too low to count’ – maybe maitlissss will have to get her bits out or they’ll have to find young Totty to get the boys in prison to up the numbers ..

      I’ve not seen it for years but I gather that it is now a nightly broadcast by the Labour Marxist Party ….

      Back in the day when I was ‘woke ‘ to how lefty tv news had become – I’d switch on c4 news at about 713 pm to see if they had any or many adverts – happily very often the only advert they had was for their own puerile output – apart from father ted .


  42. Up2snuff says:

    TOADY Watch #1 – Listening but not listening

    Justin Webb is interviewing Grant Shapps. Justin asks Grant about the PM’s statement yesterday and the conflicting statements from doctors and PH(E). Grant explains that each step of relaxing restrictions is based on the ‘R’ number. Justin does not listen to the answer.

    He asks again. Grant uses a lot of different words to provide the same answer: Government decisions are based on the ‘R’ number. Justin still does not listen to or hear the answer or does not understand what is being said. Justin asks again about the conflict between medical statements and the PM’s statement yesterday about ‘possibly being back to normal before Christmas’.

    Grant waffles away not really saying anything much. The interview changes direction.

    Time for Justin to do that presenter and journalist re-education course that the BBC faithfully promised to hold in the wake of the Gilligan Affair.


    • Fedup2 says:

      Up2 – sounds like a clash of two mediocrities – Shapps is harmless and the BBC Droid just worries About being replaced by a coloured girl .


  43. theisland says:

    Not the bBC (although one could argue it should be) but lots to read over the weekend if anyone is so inclined.

    Earlier this month the Centre for Brexit Policy produced a 100-page report entitled
    REPLACING THE WITHDRAWAL AGREEMENT How to ensure the UK takes back control on exiting the transition period”

    See also here.

    Brexit Facts4EU.Org have done a short summary and present key excerpts (but they also point out they were not consulted about it).

    This paper, which was predominantly written by expert lawyers, in effect proposes the tearing up of the WA and PD. It pays lip service to a new agreement being negotiated with the EU, but we cannot imagine that the intelligent people who wrote it actually believe that the EU would ever agree to that.

    In short, the paper provides a road map to tearing up the abomination that is the WA and PD, based on the EU being in breach of its obligations.

    The only change to the abomination that was Mrs May’s Withdrawal Agreement after Boris Johnson became Prime Minister was the change to the N.I. Protocol – all other appalling provisions of that Treaty remained intact. Many of those who supported Boris Johnson and the Conservative Government agreeing this Treaty in November last year and signing it in January this year are now advocating and promoting that the WA and PD be revoked.


  44. Guest Who says:

    BBC News

    15-year-old “Grace” was sent to juvenile detention for violating her probation by not completing her online schoolwork.

    Then you read the comments.


  45. AsISeeIt says:

    Just a thought

    Having raised NHS staff to the level of angels within our godless society it’s perhaps unsurprising that so many people are suddenly more than keen to impersonate medics by the donning of quasi medical faceware.

    It is about as convincing as George Osborn in a hi-vis jacket.


  46. Up2snuff says:

    Yer just gotta laugh: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news

    Bowling Alleys and Casinos to re-open. What will they look like?


    The BBC. So they tell us.

    Who says the BBC doesn’t do comedy now?


  47. Jeff says:

    There’s going to a lot of manufactured outrage at the film showing two white police officers arresting a black man.
    Of course, they can hardly say “unarmed” because he had a knife.

    The BBC and Channel 4 won’t be content until we see another PC Blakelock tragedy…and then they’ll blame the Tory government.

    Knife crime in this country, pre enrichment, used to be something of a rarity. Not these days. Every year fresh records are set for knife murders and the Guardianistas wring their hands and blame poverty, deprivation, racism, exclusion from school…and (of course) the Tory government…

    There isn’t really a deterrent for murder. A few years inside with your mates and then back on the streets…blimey, we even welcome back terrorists, FFS!
    We’ve had decades of the liberal approach to violent crime and it’s clearly been an absolute disaster.

    Regarding this latest race baiting piece about “the knee on the neck”…
    I think most of us accept that knife crime is completely out of control and needs tackling, so it might be worth trying an experiment. How about instead of a couple of years in nick, when convicted of murder…
    The deterrent would be

    A rope around the neck.


    • theisland says:

      There may have been reasonable arguments for abolishing the death penalty in the ’60s. For the most part we were then a civilised society where the general population knew right from wrong and where something called ‘British Justice’ largely prevailed. However the ever increasing importation of savage ‘alien’ cultures, and the (deliberate) ruination of our educational and legal institutions, has changed all that. The death penalty must now be reimposed as part of the solution to restore a functioning society, and I believe the majority of law-abiding citizens would be in favour.
      The ‘powers that be’ only have themselves to blame.


      • Fedup2 says:

        Reviewing the pro and anti arguments for death penalty was one of those ‘rights of passage ‘ when doing the compulsory criminal bit of the old law degree- before the time when they started using colouring in books .

        I used to be moderately of the Right when I was younger but now that I’d be classified by the ‘far left’ as ‘far Right ‘ I am instinctively pro killing very bad criminals .
        My biggest concern is the judiciary being pushed to be left liberals – hence going after stuff which is about changing social views rather than just right and wrong

        I think one day in the future they’ll think it inhuman to lock people up for A very long time Instead of putting them out of their misery … as well as the cost of course .
        As an aside the imported third worlds understanding of law enforcement might be very different to the UK version – plod running away doesn’t send out a very good message ….


      • JimS says:

        The general belief is that it is wrong to kill, so most societies create laws relating to murder.

        Some murders are accidental, violence might have been intended but it went too far. Some muders are coldly planned. They are considered to be the worst.

        An execution is murder by the ‘state’, coldly planned without passion. Coveniently we all can hide behind the anonymous ‘state’ – “it wasn’t me Guv!” we can all shout. But in reality we all become complicit. Not only that we create a group of de-humanised guards and executioners to do the task that we wouldn’t as individuals do ourselves.

        Execution might be convenient but the it harms those that carry it out, including the wider society.


    • Emmanuel Goldstein says:

      I am against the death penalty for this reason:

      The state will use it to get rid of those it doesn’t like. TR would somehow be fitted up or Katie H would end up on some trumped up treason charge or something like that.

      If you get 2 weeks in prison for urinating in public (is he out yet?) how easy would it be to get a death penalty for someone taking on the elite.

      If you get 6 months (was it) for reporting on a trial (TR) how easy to get him sentenced to death on some trumped up charge.

      A year for leaving a bacon sandwich near a mosk (and then conveniently suicided or whatever in prison)

      The death penalty would reduce many suicides as the elite would have a ‘legal’ way to get rid of their opponents.

      Another reason is that mistakes are made and many innocent people would end up killed as has happened before when we had the death penalty.
      A post death pardon isn’t much help to these unfortunates.

      So then, it’s not the actual death penalty I’m against, it’s the abuse of it by those at the top. Another tool instead of having to keep suiciding their opponents.


      • BRISSLES says:

        I believe we shall see more of these phone videos where an arrest is being made. The (usually) black perpetrator has only to scream or shout “get off my neck” and immediate social media attention is gained. Police all wear body cameras, so unless this latest policeman had a case of the ‘red mist’, then the body cameras of all the arresting police should clearly indicate what went on.

        This ‘get off my neck’ cry could now be an easy money call. If found to be true then lawyers will be swarming like ants to get a ‘suitable’ compensation payout for their perpetrator client.


      • Jeff says:

        The only concern I’d have is that occasionally in the past mistakes were made. The two most infamous cases I can think of being Timothy Evans, who was hung, wrongly, for murdering his wife and daughter and Bentley who was already in police custody when his partner in crime shot and killed a policeman.

        However, while I used to be dead set against the ultimate deterrent, for the reasons stated, I’ve gradually become persuaded. It’s not just that I believe it could be a deterrent, it’s also that I think it’s important that we as a society make a statement. There are certain crimes that are beyond rehabilitation and forgiveness.

        At the moment we almost treat murder as an every day event. Well, in some areas it is an every day event…It’s a little bit more serious than armed robbery, but we’re no longer really shocked. We’ve become inured to these foul deeds.

        In the case of those prisoners that can never be freed it’s also cruel. We’ll lock up the likes of Ian Huntley for the rest of his life and wash our hands of him. I think this is both unfair to the parents of Holly and Jessica and actually inhuman in the case of their killer…not that I’m particularly worried about him.
        But it makes us feel better about ourselves.

        I honestly don’t think there’s much chance of Tommy or Katie facing a trumped up capital charge. Much easier and more productive to hound them, denigrate them and lie about them.
        I attended all of the London demo’s to get Tommy his freedom and he’s a popular bloke amongst the public, despite what the MSM may say.
        So, killing them, I don’t think so…
        That would immediately make them martyrs.
        And our leaders and lawmakers most certainly wouldn’t want that…


      • theisland says:

        “So then, it’s not the actual death penalty I’m against, it’s the abuse of it by those at the top.”

        Yes this would certainly be a major, major problem nowadays – with the current batch of judges and the b****y Supreme Court. However, I don’t think that many innocents were executed in the past? There will always be errors but, on balance, I am in favour of its reintroduction providing we can sort out the legal profession in tandem (granted, an enormous job). I’m no expert but the jury system is supposed to be a ‘control’ so I’m thinking there should be more trials by jury rather than what seems to regularly happen with TR where a politicised lefty judge gets to call all the shots.


        • Fedup2 says:

          I always like a ‘death penalty ‘ scrap . As law students we’d be taught to jump ship from one side to the other . It’s when I realised that ‘Successful’ lawyers Tend to be amoral – see Tony Blair as a living example of this .

          Talking of lawyers – I read on Twitter that a group of academic? Lawyers is to examine the behaviour of the Judges of The court of appeal in becoming political over the decision to bring a 20 year Bangladeshi Muslim terrorist Into the UK to decide if she should be here ………..


      • Lord Blagger says:

        But you are a allowed, if you are a marxist or the BBC to use the “Gammon” attack. Another pork based product and we know they really mean Jews.


      • Lord Blagger says:

        But you are a allowed, if you are a marxist or the BBC to use the “Gammon” attack. Another pork based product and we know they really mean Jews.


      • Lord Blagger says:

        But you are a allowed, if you are a marxist or the BBC to use the “Gammon” attack. Another pork based product and we know they really mean Jews.


  48. AsISeeIt says:

    Déjà vu

    ‘Nantes: Fire breaks out at Saint-Pierre-et-Saint-Paul cathedral’


    ‘More than 60 firefighters are currently at the Saint-Pierre-et-Saint-Paul cathedral, according to local media. The cause of the fire is not yet known.’

    Plus ça change, plus c’est la même chose


  49. Up2snuff says:

    Looks like obesity is not just a NHS problem



  50. tvlicensingblog says:

    New from the BBC TV Licensing Blog for the weekend:
    Government Minister: Decriminalisation of TV Licence Evasion Will Happen
    Ben Thomas: Another BBC Nonce Crawls Out of the Woodwork

    If you haven’t already done so, please download our totally free ebook TV Licensing Laid Bare.

    The 70 page book is packed full of information about the harassment and intimidation meted out by the BBC in the name of TV licence enforcement.