The coming Friday – 14th of August marks the 75th anniversary of our victory over Japan . Let’s hope that the BBC can mark it with some level of dignity without importing its’ very own Marxist views into proceedings -And that it offers ‘thanks ‘ to those who suffered and died at the hands of the Japanese . There’s always hope .
Midweek Thread Wednesday 12th August 2020
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Ratioed: “They come from some of the poorest and most chaotic parts of the world”
.. Doh they are coming from France
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They come from some of the poorest and most chaotic parts of the world.
Stew – it will be interesting to see whether Britain is going to enter into its ‘refugees welcome’ moment, as Germany did in 2015, or whether sanity will prevail and the populace will realise that this already overcrowded island cannot take in another flood of millions?
Much depends on whether Boris decides to turn into a Merkel Mk2 and the MSM go for the idea big-time. In fact, I believe we’ve been there and done it, when Tony Blair quietly opened the floodgates, even long before Merkel decided to change Germany forever.
We can certainly anticipate where beeb will stand in this matter. Somewhere alongside The Guardian, is my guess. During the long, hot night/morning that has just passed, I listened to Dotun on R5L and a caller named Aziz bewail the fact that the Home Office, full of ‘persons like us’ was not sufficiently accomodating to ‘migrants’. It seemed to baffle and outrage them.
fnw, the Conservative Party and the Government need to realise some hard facts of life. It has become apparent since the Margaret Thatcher and John Major induced recessions of the 1990s that the new base level below which unemployment will not go except by drastic measures (like employing people at average pay to pick up litter) is no longer 300,000 to 330,000 but 1.3 million.
Blair & Brown, throwing millions and eventually billions at real and fake job creation could not budge it below that figure. Both the Conservative Party-led Coalition Government of 2010-2015 and Cameron’s administration from 2015-2016 and May’s of 2016-2019 did a brilliant job of trimming a bloated public sector (for employment) as well as creating a private sector recovery. That saw a huge number of jobs created and filled but the unemployment figure stuck resolutely at 1.3 million and then came the Pandemic and Lockdown in the UK.
The realistic position is that if the Conservative Party and the Conservative Government keep wanting to have migration from everywhere, even if they have a smoke and mirrors ‘points based-scheme’ to create an illusion or actual reality of control, then they are going to have to put up taxes massively on the high earners and on private corporations to pay for the benefits required for the new normal.
The new normal may be, if we are fortunate, a base level for unemployment of 2 million to 2.6 million but it may be more.
It may be much more.
It’s time for a dose of reality for No.10 and No.11, the Treasury and the CP’s Central Office.
They are supposed to be destitute but could afford to shell out £2000 or more to squeeze into a tiny inflatable risking their lives
to be in receipts of the ‘benefits’ our stupid Government seems to be content to afford them.
SG Interesting use of words by Beeb, but not unexpected. ‘Migrants’ as opposed to ‘Illegal Migrants’. The whole thing has a big sympathy angle to it. The ‘list’ of countries provided is also interesting as most with the exception of Egypt and one other are considered unsafe.
Having connections to this issue I strongly dispute the Beebs list. I have never encountered an illegal from some of the countries they suggest. In my experience I know that many are originating from Albania, Afghanistan, Vietnam, Iran, Iraq and finally Somalia, which is the only unsafe one.
What some people seem to be unable to grasp and unfortunately they never will until the Beeb etc tell something approaching the truth is that very few migrants are families fleeing persecution,war, terror etc, but able bodied young single men seeking asylum. Sorry I didn’t mean asylum I meant money. Actually I meant both.
Once safely escorted here I can’t even suggest they seek out a certain (open house)Gary Lineker as it appears from his first wife that he is an unreasonable man to live with and causes stress and anxiety (crushed crisps in beds, jumping out and popping crisp bags, droning on about his mates Ben and Jerry, shouting ‘offside’ at the TV all day etc ). That wouldn’t be a good start.
Cs, I haven’t looked but is Viet Nam on the BBC’s list?
No strange, they omitted that one. Must have been a (genuine) error. Still not to worry if you want your nails done and a couple of bags of cannabis to boot I’m sure there will be a suitable nail bar nearby to help out. Not that I would dare suggest any connection, of course.
Cs, it is very strange how the BBC are pro-migration but deliberately ignore the deaths of people exploited by the traffickers. Of course, the BBC wouldn’t exploit people …
….. or would they?
I wonder what a UK based 75year old might say on the subject?
Al Beeb are very upset that we are Brexiting and they are very upset that the Tory Party stormed to government in the last general election. They and the Labour Party look at unlawful, illegal Immigrants as potential Labour voters.
There is only answer to this quandary vote and support Nigel Farage and his new party .
I’m now definitely getting a bad whiff over the drip-drip of guests talking about the mess over school exam results.
Today the BBC have had two experts on, one saying that lowering marks to align with historical results will hurt the Universities as less pupils will be able to go on. They urge the government to just accept the teachers opinions.
The second saying that Universities are possibly giving higher graduation degree grades than their students warrant because this means the university will go higher up the UNI rankings and thus attract more students and thus more cash.
So my guess is that all this babble is originating from the University overlords looking to ring-fence their income and putting pressure on the powers that be and the teachers to wave lots of students through regardless of their ability.
I always suspected that universities had dropped chasing excellence for profit but this is getting obscene now.
In my experience, when it becomes all about money it usually ends in tears.
The eventual losers will be the hordes of university leavers who will find themselves in massive debt and can only find jobs flipping burgers or making latte.
“jobs flipping burgers or making latte.”
That puts the kibosh on all those ‘vegan-gender study’ degrees then…
Hang on though, the BBC like twits like that on the payroll!
The Times has interviewed some of the illegal immigrants from France. Here they are in their own words.
Aziz Shojaei “If I make asylum here [in France] they will not give us a house or money”, he said. “No one cares here.”
Yusshka Mir, “it is better to die if we cannot reach England. I would drown myself.
Seyar Naib “I cannot stay in France, they do not give you anything. I need to be with my family.”
The Times clarifies the attraction of the UK:
To get medical assistance in France they need to prove they have a right to stay and live there for 3 months.
In the UK they can apply immediately for financial support, place to live, free health care. Though they not permitted to legally work in the UK they can do so illegally because they don’t have require legal documents that they need in France.
Oddly none of them were aware of the evil and racist white people who live in these isles. Once they watch the BBC then they’ll know they aren’t criminals, rather it is the indigenous peoples who are.
Twenty years ago or more, I’m sure I was hearing, or reading about, these same phrases from young muslim men trying to get to the UK. I found the sense of entitlement scary.
It will only stop when we stop the ‘free houses and money’ that they KNOW is waiting for them here and engage in a massive information campaign throughout the middle east and sub Saharan Africa.
Last Sunday on Any Answers, the vox pop selections on this topic gave the impression that the general public are about 50/50 between active support for these chancers and those who want them sent back to France. I hope this is BBC bias but even if it is ‘we’ have never been listened to by politicians, neither now nor twenty years ago.
“Priti Patel: Home Secretary takes on Ben and Jerry’s over migrant boats”
Own goal by “ice cream men”, in fact back of the net!
Prince Harry And Meghan Markle Quietly Moved To Santa Barbara Last Month.
Errrrr, and WHY wasn’t I told ???????
And is it me ? but his hair looks suspiciously thicker these days (or unruly).
Didn’t the Beeb have a report, Brissles my dear old thing, (well it’s the cricket season and Blowers must be chuffed at England’s victories) about how evil, nasty, journalists were flying drones and helicopters over the Markle’s new place in Santa Barbara just to get a shot of them so it could be used by Meghan’s PR people for another legal claim?
Of course, the BBC wouldn’t sink that low, would they?
Ask Sir Richard Clifton (or was it Sir Clifton Richard? A name similar to that, in any case …) The BBC gave him a special fly-by after a tip-off from PC Plod & Co.
I had this interesting email which may be a scam. But all the BBC is a scam. Has anyone else had such a message?
root@smtp2.rapidns.com
Strange address, beware. Snarl, snarl.
No, but we ought to duplicate this on the IT Thread that Fed started today. I have a folder for suspicious e-ms that arrive in Junk. I check them over preferably without and before any opening. If they are obviously dodgy I contact the legitimate source to see if they are interested in dealing with phishing and scam e-ms.
If they are not, or if the e-m is definitely a phisher or a scam, it gets the treatment c/o Microsoft. This may mean transfering the e-m back to the Junk folder and dealing with it there using the Not Junk > Phishing item. If I’m being offered Canadian medications, then they may get blocked.
It is surprising how many legitimate operations, often close to or part of Government, do not have an easy way on their web-sites to report spoof, phishing and scam e-mails. You would think that they would have a security bod on their IT teams who would alert the appropriate police and intelligence authorities to these criminal efforts.
You would think.
But no.
Up2
The only reason I started the IT thread was because it seemed no one could put anything on the the ‘normal ‘ midweek thread ( I so loveingly drafted ) and thought that might be the way for people to exchange comments . I think it sort of worked …
Personally – should this site fail all together I reckon we should migrate to the ‘is the bbc biased site ‘ run by our good friends . The mission of killing the BBC in its current alien form is more important than any single website .
“Personally – should this site fail all together I reckon we should migrate to the ‘is the bbc biased site ‘ run by our good friends .”
But you would need to sign up to Disqus first.
Jim
I’m really sorry – but I don’t know what ‘discus ‘ are and whether they are good or bad . My primary drive is to destroy the BBC by making it ‘subscription ‘ and ending the TV licence – if there are similar sites – please advertise them here .
Fed, it’s something you can ‘join’ for free to sign in on web-sites that only allow comments from people (da yoof) on Farcebook and in the Twitterati. It’s the ‘other’ option. I’ve been optionally othered which made the eyes water but enabled me to comment on some of the excellent articles on The Conservative Woman web-site.
Craig’s and Sue’s site is very polite. If we migrated there we would have to behave. 🙂
Cagna Guardia, It’s no a common spammail address or even a regular format
It probably is scam or could be someone has misconfigured their return to address
What you’d expect is someone bought a domain from rapidns.com
and that they are using rapidns.com mail servers
So that emails sent out have the routing info like this
…. smtp.mail=postmaster@kwebmaker.rapidns.com
showing they came via rapidns.com
Obviously some spammers use spoof email reply to addresses and set it to whatever the want
#CCBGB
Looks like the bbc Newsnight BS cardinals have decided and the smoke is… black.
The IT problems on here diverted me from …
TOADY Watch #1 – Kamala Pamela Schmamala
The BBC, with pleasure in the news readers voice in the voices of Nick and Katya in the newspaper review, told me that Kamala Harris is part Indian and part African. Pretty much half and half, actually. But the BBC’s pleasure extends to the fact that she considers herself African American. Which they also told me.
Now I am tolded. By the BBC. So there.
The question arises: why not Indian American?
Is it because Indian Americans are quite quick to integrate and just refer to themselves as ‘Americans’ rather like many of the Latinos and others, such as Brits, Kiwis and Aussies who go to live in America?
Is she from the Siddi community? If she isn’t, how can she physically be both ‘black’ and ‘South Asian’? Do they mean she’s ‘mixed race’? Then why not say so? Is it because in the ‘league table’ of mixed race social status, not having even one white parent is better? Are we going down the route of Latin America with everyone categorised by the racial profiles of their ancestors over the last six generations? Because that sounds rather prejudiced and racist to me.
There’s no way you can physically be a ‘South Asian American’ either, you’re either ‘South Asian’, or you’re ‘American’, anything else defies the concept of geography.
Maybe it’s just me, but ‘African American’ does my head in, and ‘Pakistani British’ is an appalling abuse of the language – stupid, illiterate euphemisms for people who want to live in one place (for the perks), whilst claiming to be hard done by because that place isn’t where they (or their great, great grandparents) were born.
I feel sorry for those sheep dogs born in a byre, I expect they get taken to be Furry Freisians.
BigBro
There is no such thing as a white American or a white Australian or a white African. Maybe, but the white invaders of old certainly knew how to bring about prosperity to the benefit of all who were willing to work for it.
Our present invaders have no such talents.
Have Faisal, Mishal, Amol, Samira, and Studly weighed in yet?
Another brand on my boycotting list. At this rate I’ll only be eating and surviving on meagre offerings from my garden ! No danger of boycotting myself 🙂
Beeb R4 wetting itself with delight all today over the Bame selection for VP candidate for U.S. presidential elections. She might even end up as president given Joe Biden’s age etc. It seems that she has been selected with this in mind – President by stealth because didn’t she fail to get the bigger ticket?
If Biden is seen as not likely to go the full four year term, why is he being allowed to stand at all?
Surely Vice presidents should be the ones that you have never heard of, even while they are vice presidents.
This is Steve Turley’s assessment of Mrs Harris as Mr Biden’s choice as running mate. It’s 12 minutes long.
I think she’s a very good choice.
What’s their plan , maybe for ancient Biden to withdraw at the last minute ( health or something ) and have her take his place?
Eddy,
It would be like the Bliar / Brown transition: You get what you didn’t vote for.
Why is she described as Black African American when she is half Indian ?
I think she’s the non-white Elizabeth Warren; the female Kunta Kinte.
Despairada, that has often been the case in the past – never being heard of as VP. I actually had to look up Richard Nixon on G**gle just to be reminded who was his last Veep. The forgettable Gerry.
It is notable that President Trump has actually given Mike Pence a role as VP sending him on diplomatic and other missions. You could almost say that that is the businessman in President Trump coming out, looking to develop his successor for the continuing good of the whole USA enterprise.
Earlier someone mentioned the bbc getting in on the QAnon act.
Here is their latest ‘report’…
BbC News
Marjorie Taylor Greene could become the conspiracy theory’s first devotee in Congress – those who support the theory believe that “deep-state” traitors are plotting against US President Trump.
Envy of the world my shiny….
Meanwhile the genetic combo of a person of no willy in what is traditionally a minor role politically in another country is obsessing bbc hacks to the exclusion of reason.
Well, because the Black Broadcasting Corporation won’t report it, it behoves us to.
Naturally Fox are the only ones covering the story in the US.
https://www.foxnews.com/us/north-carolina-man-shooting-boy
As I suspected, there is something funny going on with IT everywhere … or there is something funny going on with the Covid-19 statistics …. or both.
Since this morning, I’ve been trying to get the figures for 11th August for Kent. Nothing. All day long. Now, suddenly at 7 p.m. the figures for two days combined are released. There is currently a double narrative in our media. Sometimes the same media source carries a contradictory article. I think I detailed on the Start the Week Thread how I’d seen two completely contradictory articles in Saturday’s Daily Telegraph, one stating a fall in Covid-19 infections, the other an increase. We need reliable statistics in a Pandemic and also reliable journalists and news outlets.
More than ever right now we need the BBC to re-discover some integrity and to start seeking the truth and stop pushing their usual propaganda that we spot on here.
Here are three questions that the BBC can ask a virologist:
1. Is Covid-19 something more than a coronavirus?
2. Is Covid-19 non-seasonal, is it a year round virus?
3. Does washing with soap and water and using disinfectants as surface cleaners eradicate Covid-19 or does it survive in both clean and contaminated water, and,
4. Do we have any indication as to the extremity (or otherwise) of the rate of mutation of the Covid-19 virus.
Hah! You weren’t expecting the Spanish Inquisition.
I have four questions, doh!, I have five questions for the BBC to ask a virologist:
5. Is the Covid-19 virus mutating and changing slightly to suit age or ethnicity or geographical aspects?
Come on BBC. It is important that you get your act together. From what I can see, there’s something funny going on with Covid-19. You, with all your resources and all your questioning and competing journalists, should have seen it too.
Up2snuff
COMvid -19 is a gift from Communist China which has somehow managed to shut down the Western economy.
China 1/ The West 0.
Lefty, is it just a coincidence but the countries worst affected by the Virus from Communism appear to be:
USA – Republican (Conservative) President
Brazil – conservative President
India – conservative PM and government
UK – Conservative government
I can hear Pete & Dud discussing that.
“Funny, I thought.” “I thought, funny.”
Up2snuff
They have seen it too, to use the the very much used euphemism the treat us like mushrooms ie “they keep us in the dark and feed us full of (SH one t)”
Up2 – the variant of covid was always a head scratcher – as well as the potential to mutate to the malign / benign variants – would that happen ? Would sunlight / heat be the driver for change ?
I reckon the SAGE types have as much of a clue as you or me . The Russians say they have a cure but if it’s any good the military would get it first – has anyone heard who is getting the vaccine in Russia ?
Up2 – we’ve been told that acid in soap acts on the surface of covid and disables it – more than any other agent . If this is not the case I think we deserve to be told – it mirrors the value of wearing a mask – which even from my days of looking at microbiology might be ok for a bacterium but for a virus ? Nah
Fed, no-one replied to my ‘taster’ or ‘teaser’ on that BBC video clip from the sewers under a Spanish city. By the way, soap, to the best knowledge of my posting from memory of a scientific sort, is not acid but alkaline.
However, apart from human body waste in sewers, you also have cooking waste (salt & vinegar-alkali & acid plus all the greases and sugars and alcohol) plus umpteen cleaners and disinfectants, including bleach. I find it hard to believe that a Covid-19 virus that can be killed and washed away with soap and water can survive in sewer water.
I am amazed that rats do.
Someone may have been telling porkies or squeezing lemons or somesuch.
I am going to call the BBC out on something – they are RACIST. They claim to be anti-racist but they are not. The following ridiculous headline just appeared as a top story on the BBC homepage:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p08nf1pp
What a bunch of happy horseshit
Let’s face it, one hears very little news from the vast continent of Africa from the beeb, or other MSM.
It’s almost as if there were a great many failed states over there, the media don’t want to talk about.
Nope, the blacks we hear about are in the US or Europe, lately causing problems aplenty, emboldened by the entire BLM narrative.
That is not to say there are not many who would like to live in peace, better themselves through hard work, have a ‘live and let live’ attitude. But the media don’t care much about them, they don’t make a good story and cannot easily be stirred up.
It’s the burners and looters who make the press, radio, TV etc which seldom condemn their behaviour. Encourage it, almost?
The narrative has to be about ”racism’; and that only fits one version. Which is probably why they don’t want to look too closely at that vast continent of Africa.
So, what goes on in the Congo or Zimbabwe, South Sudan or Somalia? Who, in the MSM care?
Thousands may be dying in various civil wars, but it’s the Dawn Butlers and George Floyds who get the publicity. Around them, you can build a good narrative? Not so, beeb?
It’s almost as if, with the erasure of Christianity, guilt has nowhere to go. So, you have to do a little artificial conjuring up…
“Evening all” as Dixon of Dock Green would say in better times.
Its hats off to all those who run this site and help to restore and keep it going it in the present difficulties. Well done to you all for keeping your eye on a very biased broadcaster .
Cheers & thanks from all those ancient British and Britons that live in the west of these islands !
I say “Britons” because that’s what we definitely are despite what that ‘star eyed Cox’ says. The fool has been looking down the wrong end of his telescope for far too long………..
https://unitynewsnetwork.co.uk/brian-cox-ridiculed-for-suggesting-banning-the-term-the-british-people-from-political-discourse/
Well said taffman and many thanks to the heroes keeping this site going.
Hi Taffman – I hope ‘nights ‘ is treating you ok in the heat . I’ve done plenty of that in an earlier life and I really know hot weather presents it challenges .
Sometimes I envy any one to the west of the bridge because the quality of of life seems a lot better than the smoke ,
As far as the BBC is concerned – nothing stays the same and I’m sure the start will be the funding review – which is due to report soon …
Nights are fun (sometimes).
This website keeps us all sane because we know that we are not alone. I am sure it played and important part in defeating the propaganda emanating out of the back end of Al Beeb during the Battle for Brexit.
Life in the West is of a better quality but we are aware of the foreign invaders that are been pushed west, and I mean non-UK foreign. Its almost as if the government are complicit . Deliberately stringing out taking any action on Merkel’s Marauders landing on the beaches of Dover.
I can see Boris being asked to resign very shortly? . A move for the better ?
Taffman
Sadly I don’t see an alt to Johnson . Sunak will become osbourne once the unemployment numbers rise and he runs out of money tree -which is october . Maybe low commodity prices will help him through winter but the unknown is the number who might land up on ventilators if covid is driven by seasonal change – plus my own fear – being a conventional ‘bad ‘ flu .
People reading this might view me as the worst of pessimists . But in my previous life I trained for the worst and was pleased it ( often ) wasn’t so bad .
Meanwhile – in real life – If they run out of PPE again they might as well take their stuffed pensions and go find a retirement home . PPE can never be a supply issue again .
In normal land when an organisation runs out of money, it fires some or all of the work force.
How come the same logic doesn’t apply to the Civil Service and local government?
I guess this family photo won’t go down well with the racist BBC
Hmmmm, is white the new black now ?
Their definition of ‘black’ seems a little different to mine.
Anthony is smitten.
Forgetful. Thick as mince. But smitten.
As honky as a car horn.
3pm Thursday new video will drop
about polar bear numbers quadrupling since 1950
Maybe Polar Bears like it a little warmer… maybe there is more food around because of it?
I remember seeing a David Attenborough documentary several years back where with one breath he was saying there are now TOO MANY walrus, and then with the next, the poor Polar Bears have NOTHING to eat… seems to me that could be a problem which solves itself.
Or maybe this global warming thing is all just a big load of hairy, white Polar Bear testicles?
Meteorologists use Satellite images of the Polar Ice Cap.
Greta and BBC fake News use Polar Bear numbers.
But what happens if the Polar Bear numbers and Polar Ice Cap extent do not correlate with each other.
Answer: You sack a top Canadian scientist, if she says that the number of Polar Bears are increasing. You also censor what a Meteorologist says about the extent of the Polar Ice Cap in satellite images, unless it is less than last year.
@Stew – “The Heartland Institute”
you evil deny thing, does that mean I can bin my cute Polar Bear the WWF sent & get the new next to extinct animal Toy?
BBC migrant terminology
This footnote has been on articles since 2015
The BBC uses the term migrant to refer to all people on the move who have yet to complete the legal process of claiming asylum.
This group includes people fleeing war-torn countries, who are likely to be granted refugee status, as well as people who are seeking jobs and better lives, who governments are likely to rule are economic migrants.
… Emm For a start to me , migrant means going out , wheres immigrant means coming in
eg British £10 Poms migrated out of Britain and immigrated into Australlia.
No, they emigrated.
I’m sure I was told; maybe in another life; that animals migrate. People either immigrate or emigrate.
Then again perhaps migrate is the correct word for these animal invaders.
I think a key difference
is that migrant CAN mean someone from the SAME country
eg the way people migrate from the countryside to big cities.
A school might have a lot of MIGRANT children
If you said the school has a lot of IMMIGRANT children then that gives us the extra info, that they probably are not familiar with local culture.
Maybe the French are just allowing thr 3rd world to exit their country – using it as a negotiation device to keep stealing UK fish . They’ll never be our friends and should be treated that way .
You’re right Stew, the terminology that the media use is always arse about face. I’ve said for years that “our Ireland correspondent, ” is dreadful grammar, –
“our America correspondent” is even worse, and should be “our correspondent in Ireland / America”
However……..
What about birds then ? migrating birds, are they in and out ? only I’ve never heard the term immigrating birds on those that arrive here.
@brissles yes mayb migrting is temporary
and immigrating is permanent.
Ah yes, the BBC’s beloved ‘noun as adjective’!
‘Some say’ introduced to avoid confusion between a reporter of Irish birth and a reporter specialising in Irish affairs, it has spread to include the horrible ‘England’ team and government ‘Health’ minister.
We now see adjectives vanishing too, children have ‘Swim’ lessons. How long before ‘our’ BBC becomes Britain Broadcast Corporation?
The ‘s-word’, stock in trade for BBC ‘comedy’ and ‘drama’ can be noun, verb or adjective, a universal word meaning bad, good, stuff, drugs or filth.
It would appear we have been stuck in a system with very little wind for the last two days.
I feel it should be reported somewhere, so, may as well put it up here…
Note good old dirty coal being used tonight..
End of record BBC…..
That’s a bit bizarre, cos during the time it’s been hot in London
its been windy up here
SO I would guess that the North Sea Wind farms should have been working hard.
There has been no comments on Twitter for ages.
Some random channel-hopping:
BBC News: First black VP Saint Kamala Harris will beat Trump and save the world, yippee. (For some reason the autocutie kept referring to him as ‘Mr Trump’, not President Trump.)
BBC 2: some weird thing called Harlots. Noble downtrodden blacks, evil cruel whites, especially the upper classes.
ITV. “Unsaid Stories”: a nice black couple out on a date get stopped by racist white police for absolutely no reason, and it spoils their evening. Or maybe it doesn’t, I didn’t wait for the nail-biting denouement.
Off switch.
Weeks ago, correspondents on this esteemed website noted that useless Public Health England were writing down as deaths from coronavirus anyone and everyone who has had the virus and then died. A fatal train crash? If the victims had coronavirus that went down on the stats.
Tonight we learn that PHE have backtracked and will now use a 28 day cut off. Headline Coronavirus deaths will thus go down by 5000, and the absurdly and otherwise inexplicable long tail of deaths will disappear.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-53722711?intlink_from_url=https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/coronavirus&link_location=live-reporting-story
Just remember. These clowns dictate policy, provide ‘advice’ to government, and generally tell us all how to behave.
Another triumph of unaccountable centralised bureaucracy.
Not unlike the BBC, who seem to be trying to bury the news by swift demotion on their website.
OT and not BBC.
Today five people died in road accidents.
Actually I don’t know that for definite but since around 2000 do die each year in road accidents, then five a day, so to speak, is a reasonable assumption.
Do we hear about them all ? Do they all make it on the news ? Does each have a public enquiry, demands for yet more safety, union demands for more investment ?
Because today, three people died in a rail accident. Rather less than those killed on the roads in one day. Far fewer than the coronavirus deaths today. Yet the news coverage is wall to wall.
Why is this?
@sluff
watch UK COLUMN today’s broadcast…they were talking about how the Government/media will try and DIVERT our attention as much as possible, then come back to Covid as and when they choose?
…to keep the FEAR factor going…right up to the next LOCKDOWN…this is all part of the game they are playing……
@Broadcasting
from your link I see this is part of the BBC “Alt History” series.
from the home page – “Writer and historian David Olusoga presents a series of short films exploring critical moments in Black British history from 1919 that have been forgotten or rarely discussed.”
Series 1: 1. Black British History We’re Not Taught in Schools
Series 1: 2. A British Lynching – Artist and writer GAIKA unearths the tragic story of a British lynching that took place during the 1919 race riots.
Series 1: 3. White-washing – Emma Dabiri looks at how many black subjects who fought in World War One had their stories white-washed out of the history books.”
now I have no problem at looking at our history again, but “Black British history” is just asking for the reply “what about white British working class history in World War 1 & 2”
My Mum Lost 2 brothers in WW2, Not much more I can say.
@dfhunter It’s obvious that every murder OF a black is tragic
…. but every murder BY a black is tragic also.
Olusoga doesn’t seem to share that view
seeming brushing stuff under the carpet.
PC Keith Blakelock was killed by a mob wasn’t he ?
..there have probably been more of such murders.
Kamala Harris, her father and niece…..the ‘Blackness’ is being bred out rapidly….but to the BBC it’s only that black bit that counts.
Amused to hear the desperation in BBC voices to ‘big up’ Kamala Harris’ ‘blackness’.
Pelosi was interviewed on Today and told us why Harris was such a good choice, running through her academic and career achievements…no mention of Harris’ race….but the BBC wasn’t interested in how good she was, only how black she was and wasn’t it great that she’s the first black female to be a running mate for President?
Pelosi knocked that back and had to correct it saying Harris was more Asian/Indian that Black.
Harris’ father is mixed race, her mother pure Indian…..so the blackness is pretty dilute…as anyone can see.
Not only that but she’s not a popular choice with the BBC’s other black heroes…the BLM terror group.
For some reason the BBC fails to mention their concerns…but the Mail does….
‘It’s the middle finger to BLM and progressives’: Outraged left turns on the Biden-Harris ticket and slams Joe’s choice of self-styled ‘top cop’ and her stringent record as California AG
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8618433/Outraged-left-turns-Biden-Harris-ticket-slams-Joes-choice-self-styled-cop.html
Michael Graham @IAMMGraham of Inside Sources
gave a very good account on The Ian Collins show Talk Radio
Said bizarre choice
The Dems need moderates from the swing states
So why pick a lefty from California ??
They’ll already win California anyway
Frankly why should waste our time in the UK with US election soap opera ?
There will soon be a BBC programme ….Megan or Kamala, who’s the blackest?
Kids love quizzes.
I wonder how Newsbeat will report this?
I’ve seen a clip of Don Lemon on CNN where he was discussing blackness with two or three others. And the question of how black does your skin have to be to qualify as black.
These people are insane. Their hatred of President Trump and white people has driven them to this and they’re too stupid to notice.
In Africa there are many women who use skin whitening creams to lighten their skin because lighter skin is more desirable.
The bbc obsession with tarring anyone with a bbc Pantone brush will backfire badly, as do most of their imposed measures of worth.
BBC going full #tellitoftenenough
But were they a ‘good’ family, a ‘nice’ family with ‘excellent values’? Let’s apply the MLK test. That’s what should count, not the skin colour.
Amazed to hear the BBC’s surprise and shock that we’re in a massive recession….but then they did almost forget to report that 1.2 million people signed on for universal credit in the first two weeks of lockdown. The BBC didn’t want to scare you back then with the reality of what the lockdown would do to the economy and your job….they didn’t want you to know so you wouldn’t oppose a lockdown.
The BBC loves the lockdown. The BBC, Guardian, unions and Labour all pressured the government to impose the lockdown and close schools against its better judgement…and it caved eventually…the dire results we see now, which can only get worse over the next few months.
The BBC has ‘blood’ on its hands
So with total number of deaths in India from Coronavirus heading towards 50,000 and with men dying at twice the relative rate than women the BBC’s leading Indian news story is their investigation into whether Indian men are now doing more housework: “Some hope the pandemic will prove a lasting leveller for gender relations in the domestic setting“:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-india-53750633
The BBC just don’t care at all. For them it is all about pushing their own crass, stupid and divisive narratives.
The bbc Moaning Emole lead is A level results and, as ever, there is an MSM picture of three happy girls.
Being the bbc, they are also very Kamala, Meghan and Michelle. Representatively.
The BBC also is no slouch running Dem PR as ‘news’ (#bbcquotes).
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Biden and Harris attack ‘whining’ Trump
In their first joint campaign appearance, the Democratic Party’s candidates for the White House have accused US President Donald Trump of “whining” and attacked his record on coronavirus, climate change, unemployment and race. Speaking at a socially-distanced press conference in Delaware, Mr Biden said the president had already begun his attacks on Ms Harris – a US senator from California – and accused Mr Trump of having “a problem with strong women”. Ms Harris described the 3 November presidential election as a ” moment of real consequence for America”, adding that “the kind of country we live in” is on the line.
Mr Trump, a Republican who won in 2016, has disparaged Ms Harris’s own attempt to gain the Democratic presidential nomination. At a press conference on Wednesday, Mr Trump said “there was no-one more insulting Biden than she was” during that campaign. If you want to know more about Kamala Harris, click here, and you can also read our analysis of whether she will help or hurt the Biden campaign.
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Given the choice I have opted long for a financially-distanced model funding what the bbc laughably claims is impartial rather than ideological sixth form propaganda.
Lurch still praying folk will listen to him now, as opposed to what he wrote then.
When’s the next ‘news’ ‘awards’ where BS gives one to KB as it’s her turn?
A censorious propaganda outfit.
And the Chinese government they are no longer BFFs with.
Or Presidential candidates, minor royals or racing drivers.
https://babylonbee.com/news/riotous-blm-protest-suddenly-realizes-they-dont-have-any-black-people/?
Except at the bbc, where Jonny from the Fast Show riles editorial guidelines with a dark hand.
Seems Frankie Howerd was block booked recently.
A batch of our favourite front page minor headlines, all from the Telegraph this morning, hint that the tin-eared press may at last be beginning to get the message which has been loud and clear for anyone willing to peek out from behind the safety of their face nappy –
‘Record recession as GDP plunges 20pc’
‘One in 10 virus deaths was from other causes’
‘False positives mean cases may never vanish’
Still only minor headlines, I know. I could point out that most front page top stories today are a train crash – but that would be poor taste.
The Times searches for new issues to turn into crises ‘Help us sleep, how to survive tropical nights’ – I’m tempted to suggest we do as the tropical natives seem wont to do lately, get ourselves a rubber dinghy and fetch up at Dover, by the time we get there it should be autumn.
The ‘i’ is in perky positivity mode ‘Will Kamala Harris be America’s first female president? The rhetorical wish here reveals the left is doubful the befuddled geriatric Joe Biden will last the course.
Talking of US coastal liberal elite wet dreams The Daily Express has an update on our peace loving latter day flower children ‘California dream, Harry & Meghan’ £8m family home’
Back to the Telegraph and an intriguing statement from Ben Lawrence ‘Radio 1… on why it’s time to turn off’
Errrr… because you’re no longer a teenager?
Don’t panic… The Daily Star would have us spare a thought for poor old Captain Mainwaring ‘Stupid boy is hate speech’
😉
Brilliant. No doubt will be ion Have I got Left Wing news for You very soon.
The BS show wheels out startled Labour rabbit in headlights and Tired and Emotional anti Tory Tory to offer their… ‘expertise’.
Lewis Goodhall liked it though.
Only a matter of time Lew, BS… only a matter of time.
So the Covid 19 death toll has been reduced by 10% .
This reduction takes it below certain European countries. Sky News mention it but as of yet nothing on the BBC….
When the reporter on Radio 5 Live tried to trash the reduction the Sage member replied..” it’s ok for Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland to do it but when England does it it’s brought into question, why”… He stated an example by saying how can someone recover from Covid 19 but 42 days later has a brain tumour and sadly dies, so why class it as Covid 19…the reporter had no response..
What made my day was that on Toady a guy, I think called Spiegelhalter trashed the BBC live on air for its coverage of this issue.
Toenails needless to say glossed over it but the cat was out of the bag.
Result!
Did not hear it Sluff as I don’t partake of the scummedia these days.
Did he by chance ask about the number of deaths that have occurred because people could not get any treatment on ‘our NHS’ due to the fact the NHS stopped all procedures, treatments, consultations BECAUSE of COVID ?
BBC cutting edge journalism On the ball with this….
Report on passenger train derailment near Stonehaven.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-north-east-orkney-shetland-53751678
Analysis by David Shuckman science editor….
“Heatwaves and droughts can dry out the steep embankments beside the tracks, and over the years will start to weaken them.
Add to that the effects of heavy rain, of the kind seen just now in Scotland, saturating and eroding the soil, and undermining its strength.
And with rising global temperatures set to bring extremes of weather never anticipated by the Victorian engineers who built the lines, Network Rail has been studying how best to keep the tracks safe.“
No need for public inquiry
Our nation broadcaster have it sussed…
Do we really pay for this bullshit?
davylars
Unfortunately , in this country if you watch live broadcast TV you are forced by law to pay for it.
Scrap the TV Telly Tax. The tax that robs from the poor to give to the rich.
That wasn’t the only BS.
On last night’s news, they covered the story in detail and then, as they do, went ‘live to our correspondent for the very latest details’.
The local reporter then repeated everything that had already been said, with intonation as if it was new, reading from his smartphone, and told us absolutely nothing new at all. Perhaps he was just reading from the BBC webshite.
Completely useless and a waste of money. How very BBC.
TV Gold; how could the bbc resist?
Hearing those gnashers mutilate ‘tistid’ is a bonus.
Amol’s Covid prog now
They went to women on the panel
and they and Amol waffled on for 5 mins about how female leaders did better.
FFS that is not real world
Finally they went to a male Tory
who pointed out that in Belgium the female PM and female Health Minister had not done well
Amol then spun the talk to “ah Dominic Cummings”
Three big cheers for the following in the Telegraph today.
Sherrelle Jacobs (non white) writes ‘BLM is a threat to racial equality- the Marxist organisation is undermining the role of capitalism in empowering the new black middle class’
Allister Heath compares the GDP fall in non-lockdown but sensible measures Sweden (8.6%) and excess deaths (24%) with the figures for Britain (22% and 45% respectively). He then writes ‘ this is a catastrophically high price tag for the British state’s systemic incompetence, the uselessness of Public Health England, the deep structural failings of the NHS, the influence of modellers rather than proper scientists, the complacency, the delusion, the refusal to a knowledge thT the quality of the British state and bureaucracy are abysmally poor’
And so say all of us…..
As indeed this website regularly does, if not quite so succinctly.
BBC limited to R4…but still shout…
Is it me or are the kids of today as feeble as the BBC make out…A levels used to come and go…now it is an annual pilgrimage and outpouring of how the kids are suffering…
But BBC have excelled and R4 will be having a programme about the resurgence of Africa…we all know what that means…it will start with how White men destroyed their homeland and how they have triumphed…..that’s my guess…
Glad I no longer pay
What’s the betting the ‘news’ will mInly consist of students who have missed out on their grades, with a particular emphasis on the ‘disadvantaged’, followed by vilification of the scheme put in place
News?
Here’s the BBC early retirement club setting up a ‘story’.
https://www.ofcom.org.uk/research-and-data/tv-radio-and-on-demand/news-media/news-consumption?
Sluff
Did you write the News…it is a bit like CovEd 20….
Lots of ‘experts’ giving their opinion on how it could have been done better..
Funny nobody saying..maybe the schools and Unions could have agreed to teach students and had exams….wouldn’t have been difficult
@KTHopkins on Parler
With all the furore over teachers inflating exam result in the U.K. remember
1/3 of British kids think milk actually comes from a fridge.
1/2 of Tower Hamlets do not know cows ‘moo’
Quite where such waifs are sourced also intrigues.
Radio4 just tweeted this
no radio prog is mentioned in the article
so surely it’s just BBC funded activism.
US calls for shower rules to be eased after Trump hair complaints
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-53761744
This is nothing more than bullying. Very pathetic even for BBC standards.
I really don’t know whether to laugh or cry…
The BBC are frothing at the mouth about student grades and opportunities to attend uni’. Who really gives a xxxx?
The latest economic and unemployment forecasts are absolutely catastrophic.
Talking to a bunch of kids who are fretting about their A Level grades while the country faces up to self imposed economic Armageddon, is just self indulgent, middle class tosh.
It’s like being on the Titanic, the icy waves lapping over the deck and instead of climbing aboard a lifeboat, we’re discussing whether we’d prefer a nice claret or a port with dinner…
Do they still employ grownups at the BBC?
More BAME Toady victimhood.
The first black broadcaster was not Trevor Macdonald or Moira Stuart but a lady from BBC Birmingham that no-one has ever heard of.
She undeniably suffered the kind of abuse that was an accepted norm back in the 60s.
But that’s the point. It was the 60s. Over 50 years ago.
So what exactly do the the BBC ‘news’ editors hope to achieve by featuring such a story?
The answer of course is just to keep the race-baiting victimhood rolling on indefinitely.
Remember Floella Benjamin? She did “Playschool” on BBC in the late 1960s and early 1970s, IIRC. Now in the HoL (Tory peer even?)
Anne Marie Waters talks for 20 mins about refugees and asylum seekers, eligibility, the differerent ‘definitions,’ how the left have expanded the 1951 Geneva Convention definition, and how the government is breaking its own laws. Starts at 34:16 here.
The invasion from across the English Channel continues while the defenders of our borders, ‘The Border Farce’ assist. Meanwhile our Royal Navy and Royal Marines await orders.
Before long our social services will be swamped.
Home Secretary , Prime Minister, Al Beeb, anybody ?
Taff, the senior leadership in the RN have already spoken, earlier this week they made it clear that policing the channel and turning back the invasion was not their responsibility and they could do no more than what the border farce are already doing.
As for the Tories, well useless and cowardly are the polite words to describe their abject performance. Someone called Smoggy used to come here praising them up. Yup. Really.
The WestWyvern
Picture the scenario of 10,000 Russian, or Chinese Commandos turning up on our Kent coast all claiming asylum? What would our useless government do then ?
OTT I know, but I understand that there are more asylum applicants to the UK than there are serving soldiers in the British Army ?
The Royal Marines have the trained men and the boats to deal with incursions and turn them back. This needs to be do once and then the message will go back to France .
Follow the money follow the fish , France is blackmailing our very weak government.
Taff, its indeed strange that Russian military aircraft can approach (note approach) but don’t actually enter UK airspace – with their transponders switched off posing a great danger to scheduled commercial air traffic, and our brave RAF can scramble the Quick Reaction Alert Typhoons on an intercept and turn around sortie, but a similar approach to the boatloads in the channel is not even an option. Barking mad.
The government could repeal or change legislation to protect our borders within days if it wanted to. It has the numbers. It could ignore so-call ‘International Law’ which threatens the defence and security of our nation. It could hamstring the Supreme Court. But evidently it does not have the political will to do so.
This is because liblabcon en masse all have the same vile globalist agenda. They are working in concert to destroy how our society operates. Hence they have no intention of shutting down their favourite loony mouthpiece (the bBC). MPs are so weak they even profess to ‘love’ it.