The evening of All Hallows. A full Blue Moon . A busy time for BBC bias – Labour Party Civil War again – islamic terrorists murdering again – and America deciding its president again – full Covid Project Fear again – and biased BBC staff publicly revolting over restrictions on expressing their bias on social media . Where do we start ?
Weekend Thread 31 October 2020
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The Double!
Ha!
Catchup links to previous thread
– page 5 started Thursday night
A couple of posts spilled over onto page 6
– page 4
I only sat down to see if there were any decent DVDs available on Ebay, and see if my sale was getting any bids! (20p over the start – Paaaah)!
On topic though, the BBC are really getting their little knickers in a twist about the subject for the weekend post! Isn’t it nice to see that they’re beginning to panic more than somewhat, with the Magic Grandpa story raging on one side, and the Biden revelations over the pond!
I’ve missed some of the mainstream stuff, as we changed internet providers this week, and the old people got the hump, and so did the old electricity people, so we’re about a quid a day better off next year through a huge spreadsheet, some devious poking around at usages, and no BBC television watching to speak of!
I can’t find my mobile, and it has £9.60 on a pay as you go, so don’t bother as well, so Chez Turrets O’Blene will spend the money saved on a huge ‘Guards of Honour’ from Tesco – £30.00, and some really decent Chardonnay, probably from California (whatever happened to Fetzer), or just maybe a superior Aussie bottle at around £12.00!
So that’s the news friends, and you have a nice evening, watching something – anything other than, the BBC!
Scroblene – congratulations – on DVDs – I’d recommend ‘contact’ – the british one ….. it’s a BBC drama – long before it went ‘woke ‘ …. it reminds me of a previous life ….
Checking out as we speak, Fed, thank you!
…Blimey, this seems pretty good stuff – and very familiar!
When Gerald Seymour’s story, ‘Harry’s game’ came on the screen in the early 1980s, it was absolutely stunning, and the atmosphere was just electric, such that at the tender age of 33, I remember I had nightmares about ‘the troubles’, and still recall the enigmatic areas of Belfast, and the unpleasantness being portrayed so vividly!
If it’s like that, er, will I get over it…?
Actually, it was ‘Seven Brides for seven brothers’ the other night!
Yee-haaaah – hot diggety!
Thanks for reminding
‘Harry’s game’ was riveting. I realised then, that games were being played. That there were players that no one will ever know. Not even the PM. Specially the PM.
And the backup
CLANNAD-Theme from Harry’s Game
Scrpolene
Before history of Western civilisation is re-written, that all that is Black Civilisation ( what ever that is), I would adviser people get hold of the 4 set DVD of Civilisation by Lord Clarke. Available for around £10.00 on ebay.
Pass it around, so everyone gets to know what is what. Who knows there could be a Kristallnacht of all Western art and replaced by Marxist BS.
I see the BBC are trying to make mischief over President Trump’s use of the YMCA. Ricky Rebel sings MAGA. I wish he could have been invited to the rallies.
“Corbyn anti-Semitism row: Len McCluskey urges angry members to stay in Labour”
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-54748713
The trouble with our MPs is that they do not listen to the people that vote them in, particularly the Labour Party . They listen and take their orders from the Unions that have ever decreasing members . Thus suffering from the greatest defeat for over 70 years.
Boris better take note, that continually kicking ‘Mrs May’s can’ down the Brexit road is causing uncertainty to Britain’s trade and manufacturing industries . Yet more loss of jobs on top of those caused by Covid.
Lost jobs = lost votes next time .
Today’s online Racing Post offers up a complete hit job on Trump and the US election as their lefty political columnist cannot hide his dislike for the POTUS!
He (Matthew Engel) declares with great glee that Biden will triumph overall, and Trump will lose Texas, Ohio, Georgia, North Carolina, Arizona and Florida ????????
He may well do but the tone of the piece smacks of the classic betting no-no of betting with your heart and not your head ????
If he turns out to be right then I’ll be the first to say well done that man ????
If someone cleverer than I could provide a link – Google ‘Racing Post Golfwise Extra’ and it is the top search there ????????
I’m thinking of adding another £10 to my Trump vote ….. just to add to my nerves on Tuesday ‘Wednesday /Thursday …..
Hee-hee Fedup, and possibly into January ????
Let’s have the pic first
I guess they first looked for an unflattering pic first and tried to make the headline fit.
If you are using a baseball glove , then the ball doesn’t slip through your finger does it ?
https://www.racingpost.com/sport/matthew-engel-on-the-us-election-analysis-betting-predictions-and-free-tips/456811
Interesting that pic is not used in the online article.
Thank you StewGreen, much appreciated ????????
Pres Donald J Trump has courage in bucket fulls. No one could have stood up to the continuous lies that have been flung at him, with the connivance of supposedly neutral platforms, and search engines.
Any other president would have thrown the book at them. Yet he has responded within the law. He has been forgiving even when malcontents took advantage of his generosity.
God Bless Donald Trump.
Who will Vote ?
Democrat, Republicans , and independents
I expect all Dems will vote Dem
Will ANY Republicans vote Democrat ?
The first time some believed ProjectFear #1
But surely all will vote for Trump this year
So Trump needs some independents and getting some Dems
I reckon some black Dems could switch to Trump
Once you click that link and scroll down on their web page to the article I should add ????????
Maybe he thinks it is his basement?
quote “Biden is even campaigning in Minnesota
– not gone red in 50 years – clear sign he is in trouble”
I dunno
The possibility is that Democrats are going to “over-sample” their ballots.
Each Biden ballot is worth five.
If you saw the crowds forming for Trump you’d know Minnesota is very realistically achievable for him. He only lost by about 30,000 last time around, and they’ve had four years of Democrat-defended rioting and Keith Ellison’s incompetence since then.
I don’t forsee a landslide as such, but the momentum is definitely with Trump with regards to flipping states from four years ago. He has a good chance of breaking 320 electoral votes at least. Florida, Arizona and Michigan appear safe, and Ohio and Pennsylvania seem to be in his control as well. If Biden somehow wins, it’s going to be extremely close in the electoral college. I actually think the Democrats know they’re in much more trouble than the liberal media are portraying (and in fact, in recent weeks, even they have started showing a bit more reality to the situation) and are using the ‘certainty’ of Biden’s supposed lead as an excuse for obstructing and/or impeaching Trump again during his second term.
That’s partly why I felt the need to make an account on here (along with putting a troll in his place yesterday), after years of just reading others’ comments. I was surprised at how little confidence there was in Trump’s re-election prospects, as if the polls that were so badly inaccurate last time around were suddenly extremely reliable and proof that Trump had no chance. While it’s certainly not a done deal, I want to make it known that the reality of the situation is far more optimistic for libertarians and conservatives than the BBC and other left-biased propaganda outlets are portraying, just as it was in 2016. Keep the faith.
If it were not tragic, this would be funny.
The religion of peace goes off reservation and the bbc send out ‘reporters’ to attack anyone but.
Tim Wilcox, take a bow.
Joe Biden does anything, BBC North America goes full ‘oh, look, squirrel!’
Labour implodes, and Newsnight adopts empathetic crisis management mode (correctly, apparently).
Could an organisation be any less trustworthy?
Decent idea Derrick ????
In the midst of all this tedious, right on, look at how righteous I am, let’s pretend to be the piccaninnies-sorry, but that what these middle class luvvies really think – friend, oh how awful those white, working class morons are and the rest of the gaspingly trite spouting fest, I am beginning to show definite signs of recovery,ie giggling at the whole ludicrous foot-in-mouth, knee-bending fiasco as well as getting quite excited at the prospect of the demise of the contemptible Premiershi*. This abomination is second only to the Beeb in the hypocrisy stakes. How any true football lover can view that bunch with anything other than contempt is beyond me. Mind you, very much like a virus, La Linekakakakaka will prove a tough task to eradicate. Here’s hoping!
A couple of nights ago between two halves of Last of the Summer Wine on Drama Channel there was an advert showing lots of black people appearing on the screen one by one chanting about black people, but half way through Sir Keir popped up. At the end was Doreen Lawrence telling us it was 6 months to Stephen Lawrence Day. Please G-d we don’t have 6 months of this. Not least was the subliminal message that Sir Keir and not Boris is the person for black people.
We may well be boycotting Drama Channel.
Getting my Star Trek fix, I just saw that bloody advert on Horror and came on here to warn everyone. You can’t have any type of entertainment these days without it being shoved down your throat.
If the idea is to make people more tolerant of different people, it’s having the opposite effect.
Lots of complaints on Twitter
1 min advert
I think the Stephen Lawrence Fdn just launched on Oct 26th
media/advert corps probably chucked some free advertising slots cos its tax deductible to them.
The BBC educated us about TRUE British history /sarc
Envy of the world.
In one bulletin when the report was actually about Apsana Begum MP being charged, they showed footage Liza Begumr who also wears a hijab
The News report has confused
HOUSING campaigner Liza Begum @Liza_SB
with alleged HOUSING fraudster MP Apsana Begum
..lefty Twitter shouted “see RACIST that kind on mixup only happens to people of colour”
..Yeh and no one has ever called me Steve
And this is Liza Begum
Tricky in the ID parade – one of Corbyn s’ babes I reckon …
OK ongoing legal case
but the shout now is “BBC must apologise to BROWNY for wrong video in a one LOCAL news clip”
and not “BROWNY must apologise for defrauding the taxpayers”
(which it can’t be cos it’s only alleged so far)
If eventually Apsana is found guilty will the same Labour mob shout as loud ?
British News Media explained.
Back to the comrade Corbyn show – Ian Lavery MP looks favourite to leave the Labour Party – I can’t see his ex girlfriend leave – nor the Muslim Labour Mafia MPs – wrong daily should go with him as well the likes of Jess Phillips , angie Rayner , ….Dawn tinted windows Butler …
But principles in the Labour Party are particularly flexible …
Another bBC ‘go to’, amazingly.
Local BBC news
item #4 Black History Month
but since Lincolnshire has a shortage of black people
it’s about the father of actor Colin McFarlane and the film Colin has made.
that is the same person local ITV news used last week in their Black History item
I have to tell you that I’ve just watched over an hour and a half of a Trump rally. I needed to see what the average US citizen saw of/in DJT and his rallies. I was absolutely amazed. He is articulate at the right level and, I will say, importantly, he is a Street Fighter. A persona that’s extremely rare and fitting for the times. He holds the audience, he stimulates the audience, he, importantly, makes them laugh. Frankly, you could not wish for a better person to take on the defeat of communism in the US and perhaps elsewhere.
This man is not condescending. This man is a Leader.
You would not regret watching one of these mainly impromptu and certainly ad hoc speeches to get some feel of whats going on.
I watched the rally speech in Lititz, Pennsylvania 26th October.
G
I’ve seen some too – I think one of the things the british MSM miss is that he delivers – which is part of the American DNA – in my view – as well as self help and a competitive spirit which is being kicked out of the Anglo Saxon mentality as it is made to be ‘diverse ‘….
On that score – covid or not – I believe he will get the nod – bigly ….and my bet is going up to £40 … my biggest bet ever – at 2.88 …
But looking at the odds paddy power is offering on various bits of the election it doesn’t seem coherent ….
Fedup2, I’ve got £50 at 2.99
I’ve watched many of them. The crowds are huge, and they’re electrified.
The speeches are highly entertaining – a mixture of relevant facts, anecdotes, interactions with the audience, prepared segments, improvisations and jokes. Never dull.
Which is why the US media and our own lying BBC never show them at any length. Nor do they ever show the crowds, or report honestly on the fans’ wild enthusiasm, which will sweep him back into power unless the elections are rigged.
Indeed G, I agree as I have watched much of the Trump rally action. He is a master of bringing a crowd and on occasions not entirely wanting to heed his words, but with his personallity and as you put it his artticulation, which is streeks ahead of his opponent- he succeeds. He has not become Billionaire by being weak on making decisons -we need Donald Trump to be President for the next term otherwise Europe in particular will suffer under a Biden Presidency which would not last long as his half cast running mate steps up, then it really will be , good night Vienna.
Obama that was coached by experts in media and teleprompters all the way. When his teleprompter failed, as it once did, Obama was lost for words.
Pres Trump has his own style. He rolls his own, though he doesn’t smoke. He plays by ear and touch. Plus ofcourse, he has courage in bucket fulls.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/
The BBC is indoctrinating children again with Project Fear about Global Warming and Climate Change. Greta Thunberg has been interviewed by a CBBC reporter. There’s a pic of Greta on the web-site Home Page about half-way down.
Poor poppet doesn’t look well.
And RIP Nobby Stiles ….
Correct, Rest In Peace Nobby ????????
I bet Greavsie is your hero though Fedup ????
My Uncle absolutely adored him ????
Yes – greaves and gilzean- whisky and tabs at half time – then score a hatrick…
TRadio discussion on BBC Tweeting
started at 8:07pm Nigel Pauley
… Youtube feed
DRAIN THE SWAMP !!!!!
Wot a superb President !!!! This day and age to not pander to the PC brigade is so bloody refreshing.
Best of luck on Tuesday Sir ????????
Kamala Harris rally
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ElmTSKnXgAYd0Ka?format=jpg&name=small
At least there is plenty of space to sit comfortable.
The MSM is worried of the lack of people at Dem rallies.
They are stating that Harris and her running mate Biden, are deliberately keeping crowds down to stop super-spreading of cv19. They are sticking to it.
Scott Pruitt served as the fourteenth Administrator of the Environmental Protection Agency under Trump.
This is your draining the swamp:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scott_Pruitt#Controversies
Trump has said he didn’t like the phrase at first, but it went down well with the morons at his rally, so he started using it.
Its always hard for the mark to admit they’ve been conned. Especially when everyone told you so.
Sorry Blackwell, I think you’ve confused this site with The Hill. We don’t care for your projection, gaslighting and other Marxist tactics on here. You may have better luck posting at 2am like some of the other trolls do.
Thanks for trying, though. It was a nice bit of comic relief, as will be the reactions on Wednesday when Trump easily wins reelection.
Blackwell
And what are your views on the Bias promulgated by Al Beeb?
You could make lots of people cross Blackwell
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/corbyn-suspended-keir-starmer-labour-investigation-antisemitism-report-b1442572.html
Keir Starmer says he does not believe Jeremy Corbyn is antisemitic and has denied carrying out a 1980s-style “Militant purge” against Labour left-wingers.
Speaking after the dramatic suspension of his predecessor – after he challenged the damning equality watchdog’s report – the Labour leader said the decision had been taken by the party’s general secretary, not him.
Always trying to place himself a safe distance away from any ‘blame’.
https://hannity.com/media-room/it-begins-pennsylvania-official-says-thousands-of-ballots-mailed-to-voters-have-gone-missing/?utm_source=socialflow
Mainstream Media by Scalp
From the NOT Woke Poets Society playlist
Mail says a coloured girl is to play Anne Bolyn in a channel 5 drama —-it doesn’t mention whether Henry VIII is to be played by a trannie midget ….
https://boundingintocomics.com/2020/10/30/historical-figure-anne-boleyn-gets-race-swapped-in-channel-5s-upcoming-miniseries/
They are just mocking us now, laughing in our faces because they know that they will get away with their left wing virtue signaling.
We are meant to believe that white girls wearing their hair in cornrows is “cultural appropriation” and therefore racist, but having a black girl play a white queen who was a major figure in English history is just fine. And if you object, you are of course a racist.
They can pound sand. I won’t be watching a second of it.
They’re just trolling
Drama is playing around.
In the new BBC film Life of Maurice
Mohammad will be played by Julian Clary or Eddie Izzard.
I don’t know why but I listened to Any Questions.
A question was asked about the bogus asylum seekers crossing the channel and why they do it when it’s so dangerous .
All the panel , who aren’t members of the general public, agreed that immigration is wonderful and they should have a legal route to get into the UK .
Well that’s simple enough , why didn’t the BBC fellow point it out ?
All the Powers That Be need to do is not fine lorry drivers and the shipping companies for any “ clandestines “ that break into their vehicles . In fact let all putative immigrants spend their money not on the snakeheads but on normal travel and tickets for ferries or air travel .
Job done . Anyone in the world , everyone in the world can then come here legally . And safely. Our borders are abolished. The Border “Force “ is abolished.
Everyone’s a winner. Except ordinary people .
But the same people will bemoan the loss of green space once it’s all concreted over.
But the same people will bemoan the loss of green space once it’s all concreted over.
Burgon is still a Labour MP
Not BBC – but Londonistan is still running at roughly one coloured teenager stabbed to death ever 7 days – the one from last Friday was called Bubacar Jabbie Dukureh. Bubacar was 17 . The local paper ‘comments ‘ are not what you might call – sympathetic …
……………the coloured kid stabbed to death in a knife fight on Thursday was 15 . All that crappy kneeling down thing is meaningless …. and the coloured chap who randomly hitting white people with a hammer at seven sisters underground station last night was merely a ‘cultural ‘ thing …..
David Vance speaks to Anne Marie Waters (starts at about 18:20 after technical issues).
Vote differently!
Direct link to start point
It is important to differentiate between Jihad and Terrorism.
1. Terrorism generally is for political objectives. Its goal is to achieve political objectives on earth. Even thougn people are killed, it is to make a point. Victims are generally not the focus of hatred. Terrorism comes to a stop when political objectives are met.
2. Jihad on the other hand has eternal objectives. Its aim is to strike terror in the hearts of not just the state, but at the heart and mind of all Infidels. The purpose of Jihad is Terror in the heart and mind of the individual.
Too, killing of a human is not just to strike terror in the viewer but also the victim, to send him to hell, as a personal hatred of the human at a personal level.
The Jihad does not come to an end till the victim is sent to hell. There is no end of Jihad till the end. It is why Jihad is chilling at a personal level, for the threat is you personally.
When politicians confuse terrorism with Jihad, they fail to understand the nature of the evil that is at war with us. Politicians need to state Jihad as Jihad, and not Terrorism.
I hope that the French state, that is brave beyond all the rest of the West, will continue to state the truth without fear, unlike the rest of the West.
BBC News does like children trying to mess with their parents.
Vietnamese-Americans who settled in the US after the Vietnam War are more likely to support President Trump in the election, research suggests. But, some of their children see things differently.
Cookie, a Biden supporter, has asked her father to reconsider his vote. bbc.in/31WGJq1
Hard to imagine a claim more sad.
WEF The Great Reset
Finally the media aired a Great Reset spokesman
who used the defence ‘Yes we are just a bunch of silly people putting out reports .. not people organising a conspiracy of powerful people
..no sir-ee
.. oh Agenda 21 I’ve barely heard of it ”
I posted some notes at 5:04pm Fri on the last thread page 5
However 2pm they posted a strange tweet
“*Right-wing extremism*: The new wave of global terrorism ”
Trouble is their photo showed LEFT wing terror group a 1975 Provo IRA funeral
people got screenshots before they deleted it
Also Someone tried to debunk the article
The World Economic Forum claims that right wing extremism will be the new ISIS if left unchecked
https://pressfortruth.ca/the-truth-about-right-wing-extremism-and-the-coming-new-wave-of-global-terrorism/.
BUT That guy hasn’t picked up that WEF didn’t write the article
it’s a repost from https://theconversation.com/right-wing-extremism-the-new-wave-of-global-terrorism-147975
BTW Their original tweet Oct 28th had the same picture error and still stands
with 80 replies
Methinks an IRA terrorist funeral….a prize if you can spot Gerry Adams or Martin McGunness …
The BBC keep telling me that far-right terrorists are a big threat, yet every event which actually happens seems to involve someone trying to kill as many infidels as possible in the most barbaric and gruesome manner imaginable whilst shouting ‘Alans Snackbar’. I can’t even begin to understand the level of hate these people have to do such things – yet I have never seen any report go anywhere near pointing it out.
They should have read the article – It explains why the IRA are shown:
It would appear as though the world is at the dawn of a new age of terrorism that’s different from before. Famed terrorism researcher David C. Rapoport argued in his influential thesis “The Four Waves of Rebel Terror and September 11” that modern terrorism can be categorized into four distinct waves.
The first “Anarchist Wave” began in the 1880s in Russia with the Narodnaya Volya (“The People’s Will”) conducting assassinations of political leaders. It continued until the 1920s, spreading across the Balkans and eventually into the West, influencing the creation of new terror groups within different countries.
The 1920s saw the beginning of the “Anti-Colonial Wave” coming out of the remnants of the First World War, when groups like the Irish Republican Army (IRA) began using ambush tactics against police and military targets to force political change.
More evidence about that awful “wacist” virus:
Police breaking into Birmingham shisha lounge with more than 150 people inside to stop them breaking coronavirus rules – days after it was fined £10,000 for first breach
Kasablanca shisha lounge in Birmingham has been closed until further notice
Video shows the dramatic moment police broke in after being refused entry
Police found more than 150 people inside the venue with no social distancing
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8898499/Dramatic-video-shows-police-breaking-shisha-lounge-150-people-inside.html
Darcy,
150?
About the same number that congregated outside the French Embassy recently……………
I am shocked. Why do these infidels think that their kuffar laws should apply to muslims? They must be racists or something.
The US section on the BBC website continues to be a sea of tendentious propaganda. But they’ve gone quiet on the Philadelphia rioting and looting (bad for Dems) and also on the BLM’s latest saintly martyr.
I wonder why?
Below are his mugshots for numerous violent crimes.
https://www.infowars.com/posts/meet-walter-wallace-jr-the-career-criminal-whose-shooting-by-police-triggered-riots-in-philly/
The MSM coverage of looting is nothing short of racist. They only show close-ups of the police cars or the aftermath in the shops. But occasionally they interview a police officer and in the background you can see the looters. A steady stream of black ants carrying TV’s and trainers.
Same as illegal immigrants : close ups are always families. Long shots show the vast majority of young males.
Vlad,
The last 3 could at least open their eyes and smile.
Those mugshots are the epitome of racism. Where’s the ‘hideously’ white contingent?
What has 4 legs, 4 arms and 4 heads? Those two Muslim lads in France.
Doodle and thoughts
Scottish – I was hoping you might put up a certain profit in cartoon form – committing an act with another beast …..or an apologist – plenty of choice ….
prophet … he said pedanticaly.
My web-hosting company would probably cut all ties to my sites including business stuff. Although I did used to have a stack that I occasionally left around the place if I was visiting somewhere like a safe space. Drop me an email at scottish calvin at gee mail dot com and I’ll send you something later in the week
Just look at the BBC main home-page headline today. This is their ‘impartial picture’ for their ‘unbiased’ video:
And the video beneath it is simply Biden slagging off Trump and his supporters. It’s beyond ridiculous. It also has one of their famous edits disguised to look like a camera-flash. I wonder what they cut out this time. And just to be sure you get the message (or can’t understand the slurred speech), they added subtitles !!.
But the real story for me is listening to Biden’s voice while he’s ad-libbing. The guy is very obviously not all there. But it’s never mentioned – whereas Trump stumbling on his way down some steps was headline news.
Does the new boss of Al Beeb visit this site and see the childish propaganda that is pumped out by his employees? Any head of a company worth his salt would pop out and see how his product was perceived by the public especially if viewers were going elsewhere.
Very unlikely. Although he probably doesn’t look at the BBC website or television output, either. And he has no reason to find out or care about how ‘his’ product is perceived by the public. It’s all about the Unique Way The BBC Is Funded ™ – the TV poll tax is enforced regardless and not dependent on viewing figures. And with it’s current mission of promoting Project Fear Coronavirus for the government, wannabe totalitarians and the pharmaceutical industry, don’t expect Bojo to give it a second thought anytime soon.
Biden , if he does win, or at least be installed in the WH, will be a puppet, a joke , an irrelevance but who will pull the strings?
Will it be the radical left or will it be the Globalists and the deep state? I think the latter will out manoeuvre the radicals in the ensuing power struggle because they have already shown their immense power by the way they have thwarted President Trump for the past four years. I’m still appalled their ability to be so obviously above the law on the one hand but on the other to manipulate the law to attack their enemies.
But the weakness in the globalist position is if Biden dies and Harris becomes president . Will she be more accommodating of the radicals ?
But let us not forget that there will be many millions of Trump supporters who know that a Biden victory will one way or another wreck their lives and America with it. Those people have been politicised by the events of the past four years , they now understand that in the globalist agenda they count for nothing . Trump gave them jobs and hope , are they going to meekly accept that hope being extinguished?
After watching him in the latest video on the BBC, I seriously doubt he will last a year.
Note all the pontification about violence by the right if Trump does not accept the result. Those hypocrites have never accepted Trump as President (hence the multiple committees set up simply to find a way to impeach him) and the only people I have ever seen riot when they lost were the Lefties themselves.
I often wonder if they are really too stupid to realise what hypocrites they are or they know full well and their lack of ethics or shame means they don’t care. I suspect the latter.
Losing in a free and fair election and accepting the defeat with good grace is an essential pillar of democracy. But losing in an almost openly rigged election and accepting the result without protest is an abnegation of democracy. I think that is pretty much where Trump supporters are now. Does anyone think that the Dems have acted within the rather elastic norms of American democracy over the past four years? Does anyone believe that serious attempts haven’t been made to swing the election in Biden’s favour and of all the dem candidates for the House?
Democracy itself is under threat and a Biden win will mean it is in intensive care.
Double – short answer is ‘no’ as the sale of weapons testifies . People seeing cities turned into battle grounds and doing what Americans Do – self reliance – self defence ….
As for a Biden presidency ? The pressure groups will be all over him for environmental crap and positive discrimination appointments …. it won’t matter if he dies in bed because it will be the same whatever .
I am getting more sure it just won’t happen …. and the Trump majority will defeat accusations of ‘stolen ‘ elections …. the polls are wrong … my bet is now at £40 quid and might rise to £50 ….
I think people know that covid would be a mess whoever was in charge – like here – they chose not to prepare for it and either hoped it would never happen or would happen when someone else was in charge to take the ‘blame ‘….. when really the Chines must pay a price ….
Double, some in the Democratic Party do not like Kamala Harris probably because, in their view, she’s not quite ‘Lefty’ enough.
Doublethinker et al, Biden does not have to die in order for One Hump or Two Harris to become President.
The 25th Amendment to the US Constitution provides a mechanism for removing a President from office if he is found to be unfit to serve. There is also a provision for restoring him to office if he becomes fit again.
Yes but the Globalists will resist him being removed . I think he is ‘their man’ and that they have enough dirt on him and his family, hundreds of millions of dollars worth of dirt, to make sure they get what they want. I’m not so sure that they have that much hold over Harris who seems to be closer to the looney left.
Yep. Bias all the way from the BBC. It’s ongoing, insidious, never-ending.
Drip. Drip. Drip.
On the Toady headlines this morning we hear that the Coronavirus numbers in the USA have now exceeded 9 million. Why did they announce this uncontextualised and so meaningless number in this way?
We all know why. It’s a very big number on a negative issue and so the BBC think they can use it against Trump.
In other news. Leaves falling off trees in my garden now exceed 9000.
Is that a halo I spot on the one to the left? Well, I’m blowed……..
“Coronavirus: PM considering England lockdown next week”
Looks like BoJo is going for a full lockdown? Goodbye Christmas.
Question: does the R rate actually affect the deaths by Covid ?
Question: does the R rate actually affect the deaths by Covid ?
No. It’s a theoretical projection of the rate by which the virus is spreading. It is based on some sampling, with the results typed into an Excel spreadsheet and a few fiddle factors added e.g. ‘More Christmas shopping expected this week so add 0.2 to the R rate’ etc. It is concerned with the supposed rate of infection, not with the eventual outcomes in terms of treatment, hospitalisation or death.
Ian
I’m afraid I’m rather less sceptical on this one than many contributors.
The R rate affects covid deaths because it spreads to people who are more vulnerable to the virus. They die. R above 1, more transmission, and four weeks down the line more business for the funeral directors.
And the reason it spreads is very simple. Because too many people are not following the very simple rules about transmission prevention.
Just look at the Shisha lounge video above or the ‘last night’ pre tier 3 goings on in Liverpool and Nottingham. The government is trying to deal with people like that and they have no chance.
So people who take care and do the right things are going to end up in lockdown because a critical mass of idiots are rendering the measures ineffective, and the economy goes to rat****.
Consider universities which have campuses. It would be a neat idea to have a campus total lockdown with the outside world but let covid run rife inside, a sort of megabubble. By Christmas there would be herd immunity in this sector of very low risk young people and they could all go home without contaminating their families. Great in theory but could you trust such students to conform? Of course not.
In like vein there is a case to lockdown the vulnerable (but at what cost to quality of life) and let the rest of us
catch it with minimal risk – but only minor flaws in the resulting segregation would have a big impact within e.g. care homes and once there, the result is little short of a kind of euthanasia.
Basically we’re b******* for the foreseeable. We’re heading back into ‘save the NHS’ and ‘flattening the curve’ territory, because the ITU capacity three weeks down the line will come under pressure. At 20,000 cases a day, expect 400+ average daily deaths by the end of the month, and rising.
So do take care readers that you don’t give it inadvertently to someone else. That’s the biggest factor.
Beeboid health correspondent Hugh Janus, sorry Pymm was on with fatty Nolan yesterday evening.
Pymm clearly stated the R rate was now between 1.0 and 1.3. Across the country, according to PHE.
What was it back in March, asked fatty, when we entered the first lockdown?
Really, really, well, um yes. Ear, well.. It was over 3.0 mutters Pymm..
Oh, right says fatty…….
Sluff – im out of the UK in a country where the big cities are really suffering .
But i see the cause . Culture . Everyone is required to a mask – they do that .
But distancing ? No .
No going about in groups? No
Washing hands ? No
Ventilation? No
So it spreads more and quicker than it should ….
Yep.
And many of them think, well assuming they can think, ‘ I don’t mind if I get it’.
But they don’t think ‘I don’t mind what happens to those to whom I give it’.
You need to remember that this is being led by “cases”, not deaths. If we weren’t continually testing there would be nothing in excess deaths to indicate any problem. The government refuses to release the false positive rate which would give an idea of how many positive tests are wrong. Because they won’t, one can only guess but it could be as high as 90%.
You can’t trust any figures we’re being given. They’re all given in a way so as to maximise fear. How many times have you heard that ICU wards are close to capacity only to learn later that they’re at the same level as usual? Dissenting voices are largely excluded from broadcast media, especially the BBC.
IR, I tried to find an ‘official’ daily R rate for the UK from the start of the Lockdown in March but despite using two different search engines, I came up with precisely …. nothing.
I do suspect and element of ‘fiddle factor’ and hypotheticals, all stirred with a damp finger in the wind, by Whitty and Vallance, along with some added panic for good measure.
Taffman- at least with a full on lockdown the UK TV audience can enjoy ‘quality ‘ entertainment from the BBC ….. especially comedy …..
……………..they really will have to search deep into the settee to find anything worthy … I guess the cutoff point must be about blackadder time ….( although I have never seen Gavin or Stacey or The Office )…
Ok in truth i saw 10 minutes of ‘The Office” I thought it was a boring documentary ….
Taffman – are they still refusing to sell ‘non essentials ?’ Just wondered how bad the madness is ?
local shops are loosing trade because people shop on line . Less votes for the Tories.
Too true, Fed!
A daughter has lent us her whole collection of ‘Ashes to ashes’, and the first one was popped on last evening!
Wow, what a great programme that is! Definitely non-PC, plenty of intrigue, and enough fantasy to keep the whole story going!
Those Glenister brothers have a special place in our collection, as I love to watch ‘Hustle’ as well!
The first thing Senora O’Blene said this morning was ‘Fire up the Quattro’, which is rather nice…
Just to add to that …..How tasty is DI Alex Drake !!!! Yum yum ????????
Ashes to Ashes is an enjoyable series but it is still a Politically Correct propaganda piece. True, it does make light criticism of some of the more snowflakey aspects of PC culture. But look how it treats the Falklands war. Also look behind the villain in his lair in the first series there is a picture of the Queen. In the second series the villain top cop is often seen against a portrait of the Queen. Further proof is the regression of the young female cop, Shaz I think her name was. In the beginning she was a well drawn pleasant character. As it went on she just became a mouthpiece for feminist ideology, gone was the chirpy young thing having quickly evolved into a boring miserable feminist.
Just a few examples I can remember.
I don’t want to spoil anybody’s enjoyment of the programme, I’m just warning about hidden messages.
During an ad break decided to look at what bbbc 2 was propoganding about today
two black presenters (of course) we assume they are English as this is an English TV channel ?
Doing a travel show in Thailand, and, I could not believe it, while a Thai was explaining something to them they did a translation in….a “comic” Chinese accent
Racism by blacks just imagine if we did that in any of their warn torn shitholes
I do not often complain to the bbc but enough is enough, yellow and jew racism is allowed
I’ve worked in many places and by a country mile the most racist people I ever shared an office with was the 50% who were Muslim in Derby. They even had to hold one of them back from beating up a Sikh who was friendly with us white people. They really hated him. And every single black person I have know has had a chip on their shoulder against whites and said things we could never say to them.
Now I don’t care much about it. I can ignore it. But the thing which does bother me the most is how neither of those two groups are EVER accused of racism by the stupendously hypocritical Left. I’m now convinced they only stand up for them to spite their politcal enemies.
Before knocking off I.tuned in to LBC . Off switch again because that woke Andrew Castle was on . Are the broadcasters trying to out woke each other?
Taffman sleep well – I’ve said here before – it is a phenomen built on insecurity – they’ve seen how white chaps with experience and knowledge have been replaced by young coloured airhead females so Chuck a bit of ‘woke ‘ in to try to save their contracts –
Which is a desperate and hopeless act …..
‘Being confined was toture. I was so scared’ – No, it’s not a commentary on lockdown, this is the Guardian quoting Iranian hostage Nazanin Zaghari-Ratcliffe.
Didn’t the incontinent Boris babble something undiplomatic, when he was briefly Foreign Secretary, letting on that she was doing anti-Ayatollah PR work out there when the official line was she was simply on holiday to visit family?
Oh well, looks as though she won’t be home by Christmas.
As predicted we’re on the verge of national lockdown. Our news media has been busy laying the groundwork, gearing up for Lockdown Two – the pointless sequal movie with strapline “We Might As Well” – all prepped by turning the fear factor up to eleven. We previously joked about the Spinal Tap spoof rockers turning their amplifer to eleven when other bands only had a top notch of ten.
‘Fourth tier beckons as scientists push PM’ (Telegraph)
Now reality imitates not fiction, but satire.
The Guardian puts the case in favour of lockdown in a nutshell: ‘National lockdown “could save Christmas”‘ – as if the secular-minded Guardian is really bothered about the Christian angle. However, do you see how we’re being held hostage by the Expert Public Health Ayatollahs – do lockdown or we’ll take away your family Christmas?
Appropriate with the contempt for which the media class hold us plebs the Times frontpage shoves a pic of a male rear end (in speedos) in our faces: ‘Bottoms up! How to tone your glutes’
The Telegraph has: ‘Starmer urged to show “backbone” on Corbyn’
Well, he did show the knee to the BLM, so it seems this chap will show anything for political gain.
‘Whinge whinge whinge’ mocks the Daily Star. No, not us Biased BBCers hereabouts. ‘BBC luvvies are revolting’ – Yes it’s the new DG attempting to restore the illusion of impartiality.
Of course it’s all Kabuki theatre (as the Americans would say) nothing will change BBC left-liberal sentiment. ‘Pride marches still fine, Davie tells BBC staff’ (Telegraph) – I guess the “still fine” policy is slightly preferential to the Police, Local Authorities, Education, etc, where staff attendance on these gay-sex-themed protests is practically obligatory.
The Star’s thought for the day asks bluntly: ‘Why can’t Beeb bigwigs keep their gobs shut?’ – Quite.
Does it matter? Does extracurricular campaigning by BBC celebs skew the national mood leftward?
Methinks it does – or one wouldn’t be posting hereabouts, right?
A case in point – ‘Ministers bow to Packham on pheasant shooting’ (Telegraph).
There hasn’t been much in the way of apocalyptic weather forecasting in the tabloids lately. The Telegraph however warns: ‘France told to brace for more bloodshed’
Sacre bleu, I’d take an umbrella!
It’s all a game, you know.
Which had me thinking – if, on the same weekend, we ever get to a National Covid TIER 4, Terror Threat Level CRITICAL and Flood Warning Level SEVERE – does the government win the game, and we all go straight to Jail, not passing Go and not collecting £200?
Asiseeit
Labour civil war – france under attack – displaced by ‘christmas in lockdown ?”
AISI
National Lockdown Next Week
National Lockdown Looms
It puts me in mind of Peter Arnett’s report from Vietnam in 1968 after the Battle of Bên Tre, “‘It became necessary to destroy the town to save it,’ a United States Army major said today.
cliche alert : Thursday’s FooC on Radio4
Of course began with an anti Trump item
picking New York and saying Biden would surely win it.
“In the summer it was BLM ..mostly peaceful protests, some followed by looting”
FFS
“president Trump who claims voting by mail is fraudulent”
Mis-representation he says it’s open to fraud.
TOADY Watch #1 – Still burnin’ that good ol’ oil, Jim?
Naughtie is notching up the CO2 emissions as he travels the length and breadth of the US trying to find people who dislike or hate President Trump. Naughtie is in Ashville, North Carolina and he gets his Nashville and Ashville muddled up. Easy enough, I guess. Jim also gets in a muddle over the colour of the grass. NC is not ‘blue grass country’, Jim. Time to retire, Jim.
Harder task maybe was to find a Republican who dislikes or even hates President Trump. Does the BBC seek them out or do they ‘phone the BBC?
This Republican, a Judge Orr, who sits on the State Court gives a clue at the end of the piece. He is obviously aware* of Britain and, possibly/probably, therefore the BBC. Anyway, this Justice is campaigning for Biden to win because he is impatient. He cannot stand four more years of President Trump.
Four years is a very short time. Gone in a flash.
Oh, how I wish James Naughtie would leave the BBC. Retire, Jim. Give us all a break.
* The US population is divided between great travellers and internationalists (like some of my American Republican friends) and those whose knowledge and experience and desire to see and know more goes no further than the County line.
It’s amazing that the intrepid Naughtie is able to find all these life-long Republicans who hate Trump and are voting for Biden.
Apparently the judge’s family have been Republicans since the Civil War, and even fought for the Union, yet somehow Trump is beyond the pale. Sadly, Naughtie forgot to ask what exactly it was about Trump that had got the good judge so ticked off.
But the impression was created: Trump is so awful (in an unspecified way) that even a life long Republican will not vote for him. It’s in the bag for Biden folks, who are you going to believe, the BBC or your lying eyes?
BBC News recruiting locally.
“I felt I was going to die there.”
Ephraim is a British-Nigerian activist who joined the recent protests against police brutality in Nigeria.
bbc.in/37UDGCy
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Note: some may get on the telly; others may remain. But then their mums can get on the telly.
11:30am FooC also features Nigeria
– Nick Bryant : anti-Trump piece
“The country has become more polarised under President Trump”
– Yemisi Adegoke : Nigerians have protested in recent weeks against a notorious police unit, the Special Anti-Robbery Squad, or SARS, which became infamous for unlawful killings, torture and extortion
– Poland : Lucy Ash caught up with demonstrators in the capital Warsaw
About the even more restrictive abortion laws
a court just outlawed terminations in cases of severe foetal defects
So almost all abortions are now illegal.
– Jenny Hill, who’s not the only one in Berlin who will be mourning the old airport, Tegel
Berlin is opening a new airport today, Berlin-Brandenburg there were repeated delays and it went almost three times over budget .
And somehow, the cause of ‘more polarised’ will be the President, not those who refused to accept that he won.
It’s never the fault of the left, is it? Even when they’re rioting and looting.
Lewis Goodhall liked this… hardly a good sign.
In a twitter bio, in Timmeh!’s new guideline order, what does ‘caveat free’ translate to?
Not Beeb, but it’s raining in Westyland currently. Much water on the surfaces and sloshing around.
The local council declared a climate emergency earlier this year, because amongst other things we live in a part of the world prone to flooding.
I’d offer the council contractors are contributing to the problems the most, as witnessed this week by blowing cut grass and fallen leaves off the path and into the gutters.
The same gutters that are now blocked and the water can’t flow away.
Are all leftie liberal councils so thick?..
I believe they are.
Just sent to the Brexit Party:
“Dear Nigel,
I am a member of the Brexit Party.
Having recently watched the video of your contribution to a Trump rally, I just had to express my sincere thanks to you.
With our lying BBC (aka “The Worlds Most Trusted”) and equally deceitful UK MSM, I wholeheartedly welcomed your contribution to the rally.
I have often thought it would be great to express my own individual support for Donald J Trump but thought it would be lost in balance to the derogatory comments and bias against the man exhibited by the British press. So, you did a grand job and said all I would directly if it were possible. Not only that, doubtless you explained to the POTUS the support of the silent majority in the UK.
Very well done.
Best wishes, “
Boris may as well stand down now. Could not have been a bigger disappointment of a PM.
I had high hopes he could be a little “Trump esque ” but he has turned out to be anything but !!!
Announcing a 4 week lockdown just leaves him wide open to ” I told you so” from every angle.
The left are out manoeuvring him at every turn, he looks weak as hell.
Add to the fact he is doing sweet fa about the illegal invasion, he really is pretty bloody pointless.
No wonder msm , BBC are sensing blood. He brings it on himself.
Between him, Raab and Patel, I really though we had a chance , all 3 have been massive letdowns !!!!!
Doobs, John Redwood put in a good performance on the TOADY Prog this a.m. and Nick & Mishal found no way of knobbling him.
Doob,
And Brexit……………….
Turning into a fiasco.
I watched a few AfD speakers in the German parliament lay into Merkel and her latest lockdown, and boy, was it something to behold. (Their contributions are all on YT -unfortunately in German).
One of them demanded the rules apply to her and the ‘Altparteien’, the two ‘Grand Coalition’ parties who run the country, were enraged, as they interpreted it as a request for Merkel to be locked up. (Which, very subtly, it was, but you couldn’t point to the record to prove that).
Compared to our current docile half-parliament, the German parliament is rocking, due to the presence of the AfD. They also took Merkel to task for imposing the lockdown from the Executive, and working past parliament.
Sabastian Muenzmaier spoke about how Merkel was destroying the bars, restaurants, entertainment, small businesses unecessarily and unconstitutionally. How democracy is being done away with, how personal freedom was being destroyed, and how Merkel was establishing a ‘Corona Dictatorship’.
They also pointed to the insanity that borders were being kept open for ‘refugees’ from ‘anywhere’, while German citizens were being locked up in their homes.
I felt, watching them tear into their government, that our parliament has almost been emasculated.