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– page 4 started on Sunday 8:20am
– page 3 started 5:40pm on Saturday night
StewGreen
Well done Bravo !
Talk Radio has a lot of lockdown skepticism
They put up some recent videos of calls from the public also
TalkRadio also put up a couple of polls
– Do you want a second national lockdown?
15,000 votes
– Who do you think will win the US election?
5,000 votes
both were 84% to 16%
Guess which way
Alex Belfield observes
“BBC News @ 5.30pm – national presenter woman,
local presenter woman,
national weather woman,
local weather woman.
Reporters box ticketers.”
See white men are so privileged they don’t have to work Sundays
Even my wife is wondering if there any men at all working in the BBC and if any are found, whether they are white or Black/Coloured most likely the latter I should imagine. Black lives matter don’t you know!
I suspect there are plenty there – but when someone might be seen by the public, the required shade will be pushed forwards.
Reminds of a bit of the Eurovision sng contest I was watching the other day. I had just watched the Dana song from 1970 where she was as pure and sweet as an angel in every sense. So I checked recent ones and found that ugly fat woman who won screeching about how beautiful she is. The main point though was when the camera was at the audience : someone clearly working for the event jumped in front cheering like a maniac then reached off camera, grabbed a coloured girl and pulled her quite violently in front of the camera. She looked quite shocked and surprised.
Some people are claiming that I was first, according to the BBBC!
Is that according to the Opinion Polls ?
It was according to the public phone in on Strictly!
BBC bias is rooted in entitlement
Since they KNOW so much better than us they feel entitled to be biased.
Crimebodge has a new amazing video where he exposes the POLICE can be the same .
The second BBC connection is why the heck are MSM not reporting this amazing incident ?
which has resulted in
#1 £100K of taxpayer money being paid out for this violent botched arrest
#2 Zero proper legal action against the 3 officers, so once against Crimebodge as a member of the public is bringing a private prosecution.
video
In the video the police make the remarkable claim , they couldn’t discipline one of the officers cos they didn’t know his whereabouts.
There is a update “apart from the main officer who has just be jailed for sex/corruption offences
The second officer Brightman was also kicked out of the force and has also been imprisoned for sexual offences!”
“The third one was promoted to CID”
What a bloody backward bunch !!! So nice to see so many making the journey to the UK to share their enrichment !!!
Sorry. Should have said fruity language alert.
Maybe 1400 years of incestuous marriage wasn’t such a good idea?
In order to save on nerves in the run up to the US Election I’m trying to ‘game ‘ the BBC response to the three outcomes –
1 trump win
2 Biden win
3 a disputed outcome …
Anyone wanna play the game ?
As for TR – I assume he is being kept in custody on some politically motivated state charge – and put before a special court with a special prosecutor and a special magistrate or judge ….
….. or bail conditions so hard and so long as to screw his life to the maximum – encouraging spending on legal fees against the state judiciary ….
It looks like to me that the BBC as well as being the media partners
of the BLM Marxist organization have become the chief
media apologist of the western world for Islamic terrorism.
I wonder what’s next for the enemy of the state broadcaster?
It looks like to me that the BBC as well as being the media partners
of the BLM Marxist organization, have become the chief
media apologist of the western world for Islamic terrorism.
I wonder what’s next for the enemy of the state national broadcaster?
ENERGY. The Donald has an unbelievable amount of it. Endless rallies, almost non-stop, all over the country. How does he do it?
Looking at him in freezing Dubuque IA. Packed out as always. Big crowds. Next stop Pennsylvania.
For the last four weeks Al Beeb has been telling us Joe Biden is going to win the US election , he’s going to be the next president, Trump is finished etc .
Today they’re telling us the race isn’t over, Trump has black magic , Democrats can’t count their chickens yet .
Is that part of a plan ? First demoralise Trump supporters hoping they’ll give up and not take any further interest in the election , then warn the Democrats not to be too hasty , to make sure they vote and get the incoherent one in ?
The BBC do more damage than the Russians and Chinese together .
Nibor,
I think the US public are better informed about what’s going on in their country than the BBC even begin to understand. Wouldn’t you if, for months, you watched major cities burn and be ransacked with the support of the Communist democrats frustrated by, since 2016, not being able to finish the job of the destruction of the country from within?
BBC ,
If you can show when and where Donald Trump has ever instructed anyone or advised anyone to drink bleach , as you keep banging on about ( lying about ) , I’ll buy your telly tax .
@Nibor
I watched the whole of that Press conference a few months ago.The President called on scientific experts for 2 hours……they were discussing an intravenous type cure under the skin which involved a ‘bleach’ type substance….the media completely distorted it.At NO POINT did he say ‘DRINK BLEACH’
Nibor, why let the truth stand in the way of an opportunity to distort and attack … the ‘illusion of truth’ effect, if you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it.
Won’t be spending money at Argos this year, having seen the advert.
@Northen
Argos?Sainsburys?…….same old same old……they are both on my ‘boycott’ list………..
Our Coop has an advert saying something like Make way for heroes, illustrated by a black nurse.
Seconded. Just seen it. DISGUSTING.
Same with Nectar!
OK fair enough there are ethnic Indian in the UK
but it’ all about two apparent Indian girl and their families
full 2 min version
If you don’t mind subtitles, I suggest you visit Fenix Movies on YT.
All white casts. Superb authentic scenery. Good acting. Focusing mainly on the war and surrounding years in Russia.
Brilliant.
Watching the Tommy Robinson stitch up by the gilet jaune division of the Met, I was struck by the number of coloured shoulder boards worn by the scuffers. Can anyone enlighten me as to what the colours signify?
I think it is the ‘policing by consent ‘ unit – these people take off their uniforms ad pretend to be ordinary decent people …..
…. it’s a political police now …..
Fed,
The day will surely come when they really need the support and help of the public and that will not be there.
‘What goes up, must come down’.
The making of a BBC super hero: ‘…Prof Neil Ferguson of Imperial College, London and published on March 16 2020 – is a work of prognostication, divination, haruspicy and apocalyptic augury worthy of John the Apostle. It is a breathtakingly portentous piece of research. Hundreds of thousands of lives can be saved – disaster averted, evil defeated – but only if the computer modelling of the saviour-epidemiologists is 100% believed and their recommendations fully enacted. But what makes it truly scriptural – i.e. a foundational text for a global religion of Covid suppression;
Remind me that the Global Climate Change is upon us heretics of UN Agenda 21.
The BBC will warn us of the seas-a-increasing, the wind-a-howling (windmills-a-swinging), the teachers a screeching (soon), the governments (in the US) a folding, the victims-a-multiplying (benefits mostly), the true vision of world governance to solve all problems post Corbyn.
The greatest leader we never had until , the new Labour leader (HAIL the apocalypse)
The problem (according to the BBC) is BREXIT. So they have had to bring it all forward to ensure the EU survives and the US perishes. Covid saves the planet from mankind. All we need to do is agree that Marxism is a pretty good idea if your broke, destitute and homeless. Money will be replaces with TV license vouchers exchanges at most good food banks.
Neil Ferguson is a divination prophecy according to the book of Marx ‘das capital’ and all knowledge is theft, bad is good, tv license has medicinal powers and any other ‘loadascodswallop’ that nobody thinks is true, gets a polish on the BBC airwaves as ‘TRUTH’ and that everything they predict is upon the ‘non-believers’ of the TV license, may the plague be upon us.
That is when all the false positives are added up, amount to very little other than another winter cold virus, not a bad as anything predicted by Prof Ferguson who has history of gross exaggeration and a catalogue of failures, all ignored as he has friends in high places.
https://lockdownsceptics.org/covid-and-the-religious-impulse-an-essay-in-seven-parts/
If the BBC/MSM were biased against Trump it would have some hit job progs
Saturday
8pm Radio4 “Trump Backwards” ..another smug sneering title
10pm ITV Spitting Image
which was supposed to be Pay For View exclusive for BritBox
But now BritBox subscribers learn that this episode was given away on mainstream ITV Saturday, right before the US election.
Sunday
9pm BBC2 another smug sneering title “Totally under control (Trumps catastrophic handling of COVID-19)”
The US TV company that made it have put in the internet for free already as if it is an anti-Trump TV advert
Times : “Looks at the Trump regime’s *mishandling* of the Covid-19 crisis.”
“confirms widely circulated impressions of the Trump White House as a* nest of kleptocratic science-bashing vipers.*
Flipping heck sounds it begins with really loaded premises
10pm ITV ‘American Nightmare: Trump’s Breadline Kids’:
unusual to put Dipatches series on a Sunday
10:50pm Muslim in Trump’s America
“meets family of someone jailed for an anti-Muslim plot”
em he was jailed BEFORE Trump became president
Glendon Scott Crawford, 52, a Navy veteran and a member of the Ku Klux Klan, was found guilty in *August 2015* of conspiring with another man …
The guy thought he had a death ray and was arrested in 2013
“according to court documents, the man, Glendon Scott Crawford, and an associate, Eric J. Feight, really were trying to build a remote-controlled, truck-mounted ray gun that could send invisible doses of deadly radiation into local Muslim targets.”
https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/news/articles/death-ray-crawford-schenectady
Question: Does the fact that Al Beeb and all the ‘liberal’ US media have been reporting that the polls are showing Biden is set to win, motivate Trump voters to get out and put their cross for President Trump?
Every cloud has a silver lining?
I am off to the bookies put a couple of ‘pennies’ on Trump.
Wish me luck !
That would have to be an online bookies wouldn’t it Taffman?
God knows when I’ll get my ‘investment’ back on Trump if ???????? he wins as I haven’t seen one open in weeks ????
Other Agenda Pushing stuff
Sunday
6pm Countryfile was all the Children In Need ramble : I didn’t watch
9pm Hugh Lawrie drama mocking the Tories
Talksport : Black presenter Jessica Creighton present ep 6 of the History of Black Players in England
..seem to be talking approvingly about how 70% of England national players will be black
Stew
You couldn’t make the country file ramble up…the virtue signaling was so thick you need a pickaxe to get through it…
Fortunately watching at a friends (while I can) and they switched over..
Tommy Robinson was arrested at Speakers Corner for breaking Covid rules. That is what we are told.
The background – check for yourselves.
Last week Hatun Tash, a Christian woman, was beaten in the face by offended perfect people at Speakers Corner when she showed a picture of a prophet.
Tommy Robinson said he would support her at Speakers Corner this week.
So masses of cops and lefties turned up and he was arrested for breaking Covid rules, whereas the mosleums and far left were not deemed in breach of the rules.
If anyone thinks that TR was not set up, that Covid rules are being employed for political objectives by a Government committed to Islam, then think again.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8902855/Tommy-Robinson-arrested-breaching-coronavirus-restrictions-London-protest.html
The background. The woman was attacked at Speakers Corner, check you tube for the video. So TR announced he would go this week and support her. Cops were ready with the far left and a selective enforcement of Boris’ Covid rules.
The lesson. Johnson and Patel are not in favour of supporting the right to express free speech. They are a pair of Quislings.
https://stevespeakerscorner.medium.com/woman-speaker-knocked-unconscious-at-speakers-corner-3b9b6cb81e94
Tories or actors ?
They’ll infect him with covid ….
Can’t read it , what rules did he supposedly break?
Being white in London.
The police must have been acting on instruction, whose? Would it have been Sadiq Khan?
BBC’s Roger Harrabin criticised for political activism ‘masquerading as science’
Mallen Baker, the former co-chair of the Green Party, has criticised the BBC’s Roger Harrabin’s for “public policy activism masquerading as science” – pushing a position, while pretending to be reporting expert evidence.
> Why am I not surprised?
https://www.thegwpf.com/bbcs-roger-harrabin-criticised-for-political-activism-masquerading-as-science/
Basically the article is SPECULATION not news
Harra has seen a preview copy of a new Boris speech
and speculated what experts would say.
We can’t check Harra’s assertions cos he doesn’t quote any lines of the speech.
Rather Harra seems to have phoned around some mates
and is choosing to report SOME of the reactions and not others
Listening to Alex Belfield on youtube , he holds the very same opinion about Al Beeb as we have on this site. Perhaps he should be invited to join us?
Nil desperandum, Nigel Farage and the Anti-Lockdown, Reform Party is on the way! It looks like Nigel has had a meeting with President Trump ?
Could he be the next Prime Minister ?
Would not be a bad idea Taffman, certainly might be an imrovement to the present incumbant who has seemingly lost his grip-too many indians running alongside sprouting uncertain advice. Let’s get clear of the EU Boris and then move forward to build up this nations strength and regain its stoicism it, and its people once had. Weak, flabby and easily subjugated, no interest seemingly to question government action-like people living in countries with a Communist regeme, the people of Britain are begining to show signs of allowing the inception of mass control, and the eventual loss of their Freedoms to come about. We must heed the warnings.
Not on Al Beeb yet
Could this be the reason that BoJo had a concerned and worried look yesterday ?……………
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2020/11/01/exclusive-nigel-farage-relaunch-brexit-party-reform-uk-new-anti/
https://www.thebrexitparty.org
I’m trying to work out if we are in a national emergency.
International travel banned- that looks serious
Pubs and clubs to be closed —that looks serious
Businesses to be closed — that looks serious
Can’t go out without valid reason – that looks serious
Government tells you who can visit your home — that looks serious
Government tells you who you can mix with— that looks serious .
The economy is deliberately put in jeopardy— that looks serious.
People we don’t need or want can illegally break into our territory, could have the virus that necessitates the above , be helped by the organisation that’s supposed to stop it , be given free medical services , put in the best of hotels , allowed to stay indefinitely, claim benefits — it’s serious, but not as you know it , Priti .
Nibor
Who would have believed it with a Tory government ? Conservative MPs be worried , very worried because The Reform Party are after you cushy jobs.
For you Al Beeb, your end is looming on the horizon .
Nibor,
What defeats me is that, apart from the practical and obvious: masks, wash hands, distancing, there is no advice from anyone about elevating the protection by some simple measures. The jury is no longer out on the benefits, right now, in taking a fairly high dose of Vit D, Zinc and Vit C. Evidence abounds. Silence from our Government, NHS and our GP’s.
Its as if they want the people to die…………………
The BBC is a great fan of The #GreatReplacement
the idea that The First Nations people of the UK & their culture and traditions which is generally white can be replaced by Global culture from other parts of the world.
To that intent it does not accept that progs should reflect the 84% white population of the current UK, but rather it must lead by REDUCING that to 80% and below.
Look at Sunday ‘s R4 programming
You might expect that one of the cultural program is non white, but in fact all these weren’t
– The Food Prog was Nadiya
– The Book prog
– The Poetry prog was Muslim poets
– The Film prog
– Spiritual Experience prog
Bit by bit, ‘edging’ whitey out the picture. But no longer edging: full headlong into ethnic cleansing.
Other R4 stuff
Radio4 began with that Indian spiritual prog
7am the religion prog actually had some real religion stuff in
..then into agenda pushing on Food Banks
.. Next prog The charity appeal was presented by R4 Insider Rutherford coincidentally Anglo Indian
at lunch Environmentalism series based on ancient Indian texts
Laurie Taylors prog on the rich he let the writer explain how The Rich make society better
then ended with his GOTCHA
..”now you work for the Cato Institute”
“Yes but they don’t tell me what to write”
.. “But they used to be called the Koch Institute after the evil oil billionaire”
The next expert a German guy managed to get in that the rich after often scorned and scapegoated from Jewish businessmen by the Nazis, to Bill Gates today
And today minorities are protected, but everyone lays into the Rich.
Movies play them negatively
demonstrations how hanged effigies of bankers etc.
Will the white men be allowed on Monday ?
First prog 9am Great women of : the classics
Kirsty Wark with Shadi Bartsch, Natalie Haynes and Letizia Treves
The Latin scholar Shadi Bartsch tells Kirsty Wark about her new book about Virgil
the classicist Natalie Haynes decided it was time to rescue the women in ancient myths. Centuries of male interpretations, she argues, has led to the demonization and dismissal of the likes of Medusa, Phaedra and Medea.
The curator, Letizia Treves speaks about the 17th-century the Italian painter Artemisia Gentileschi
9am prog women talking about women
10am Women’ Hour … women talking about women
“greater diversity” has another meaning in the BBC dictionary
= “excluding straight white, non socialist men”
I had a dental appointment this morning. My original appt was covid-cancelled 7 months ago. I spent a considerable time in the waiting room with the BBC News channel for a companion.
After nearly 3 years BBC free I was uneasy with the dose of propaganda. Fear, fear, fear, endless false facts, charts, graphs, experts……we are all going to ((die))!!
I sat there in the dentist’s waiting room feeling like Winston Smith. Exposed to the relentless propaganda. Unable to turn the telly off.
A shock to the system.
How morbidly fictional they’ve become!
How can anyone tolerate it on a regular basis?
What is happeining to the minds of people who are accepting this outfit as a serious source of news?
I was Xmas shopping at the seaside the other day. I saw a sticker with Donald Trump wearing a mask over his eyes. So I took off my mask. Asked why I took off my mask. I said “It makes me feel like an unthinking zombie, but with an IQ of 164, I’m almost as intelligent as Donald Trump”. I haven’t had any infection since last Xmas, and according to the evidence. Chinese Flue is a new flue less dangerous than Hong Kong Flue and Asian Flue was. Spanish Flue was 400 times more dangerous than Chinese Flue. You have to be very old and frail and about to die anyway, to have a chance of dying like my 99 year old granny did. Most of this year more people are dying with ordinary flue than the Chinese Flue. The flat top graph of future doom is very suspicious, and never happens in the past evidence. It would take a set of remarkable balanced coincidences between the death rate and the supply of new people in hospitals to die. Usually the graph rises until it runs out of people able to die, then falls because people able to die have died.
I think the upper-class left-wing morons need to replace Climate Fear with Flue Fear due to the findings below.
Ten years ago I remember some Astronomers said that Venus would provide the best atmospheric chamber for calibrating atmospheric carbon dioxide warming. Then in January this appeared in the Mensa Magazine: “We do know that the Greenhouse Effect exists because all Planetary Atmospheres have a surface temperature higher than the grey body temperature. The problem is that the Arrhenius hypothesis, as explained by NASA, does not work on planets with carbon dioxide atmospheres, proving that it is a Dogma. On the other hand a formula for the Greenhouse Effect based on Atmospheric mass, gravity and air pressure first suggested by James Clerk Maxwell in 1871, was proved correct in 2011 for all known Planetary Atmospheres by Ned Nikolov & Karl Zeller, Gravity pulling molecules downward producing the heat gradient. Other scientists have found the same results using NASA data with air pressure and the Ideal Gas Law. Therefore I hope that environmental activists like Greta don’t phone up Mensa and demand that the editor should be sacked for publishing this email, which is what scientists are presuming to be what is going on within the British media these days”
As far as I know, Donald Trump has been told about this. Its big in America, China and Germany. But in Britain I have only found reference to it in Tallbloke’s Talkshop and the British Mensa Forum. On the other hand, a moron called Boris wants to commit the Tory Party to outdo more sane left-wing governments abroad, by getting the taxpayer to pay for windmills to tilt the climate and lockdown power stations. Producing an increase in electricity prices and power cuts unless the Reform Party wins the next election.
Lucy,
Sorry, you got a dental appointment? Wow.
Hi Lucy
When in an hospital waiting room apprx 12 months ago, I experienced the same, being forced to watch/listen to bBC news
The appointment was running late and I was tempted to ask the receptionist if the tv could either be turned off or change the channel
I’m starting to wonder about Andrew Neil. On the Speccie channel he put out an hour long programme on the US election with illustrious guests and ‘experts’, yet failed to mention the huge scandal of the Bidens, and the even huger scandal of msm / big tech collusion, bias, suppression and censorship.
Has he been too long at the BBC?
He even casually sneered that ‘Trump is a narcissist’ as though it were fact. I suspect a good deal of the vitriolic hatred the establishment has for Trump is nothing more than snobbery. They despise his vulgarity and brashness.
Even the usually sound Douglas Murray spoke in measured and balanced tones of the situation in America, as if things were anywhere near normal – when what is needed is someone screaming from the rooftops that the election is rigged, the system is rigged, and Trump Derangement Syndrome has reached psychotic levels.
Step forward Salty Cracker. His rage-filled hyperbole seems much saner to me than all those ‘reasonable’ talking heads.
2 years ago I noticed a neighbor using “narcissist” as a smear/label/dismiss word.
Rationally you should be able to list the harmful things a person did
but against Trump they don’t do that but rather prefer the fallacy of Ad Hominem. “Orange Man bad”
vlad,
Yes, Salty Cracker sure hits the, ‘nail on the head’ in clear and unmistakable terms.
I do have my own doubts about Andrew Neil.
From the man who believes his son is “the Smartest man I know”
2020-10-17
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-54171571
2020-11-01
https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2020/11/01/biden-to-abandon-special-relationship-with-uk-and-announce-declaration-of-support-for-eu-report/
Back of the Queue you whities.
Amnesty (and multi votes) for eleven million illegals in the USA.
Another reason to pray for a Trump win.
The BBC aren’t reporting it yet, but no doubt they will as soon as they can work out how best to spin it.
Tommy Robinson was arrested at Speakers Corner for “breaking Covid rules”. Apparently the other gazillion people present weren’t.
A bit of background: last week the heroic Hatun Tash was violently attacked by a member of the Religion of Savagery for daring to point out the contradictions in a certain Book.
(She foolishly believed free speech was still allowed in those few square yards.)
So this Sunday TR went to give her support. I’m not sure of the details but I suspect the savages did what savages do… and TR gets arrested (and treated quite roughly by the looks of it).
According to the Mail: “Supporters suggested the initial gathering was about showing support for another activist, Hatun Tash.
She claims to have been attacked at Speaker’s Corner after showing an image of the prophet Muhammad, an act considered deeply offensive to Muslims.”
CLAIMS?? Guys, there’s footage of her being slapped hard in the face. Do your homework.
The Mail gets more woke by the day.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8902855/Tommy-Robinson-arrested-breaching-coronavirus-restrictions-London-protest.html
Forgive me using the term ‘viral’ but that video has gone viral and I am sure that most of the UK are of the opinion that , for some strange reason a British broadcaster funded by the people is censoring the news. Their world reputation of impartiality has gone down the sewer. If you are still paying for it you are guilty of supporting censorship and ending freedom of speech. Defund Al Beeb, they do not have the ability to prosecute us all! Wake up Britain.
This video reminded me of the Finsbury Park attack. It is splashed everywhere as a terrorist attack. It wasn’t at all : it was a hate crime.
But thing what struck me about that story (which the MSM all hid behind weasel words or didn’t even mention) was that the crowd were going to murder the van driver until the Imam stopped them. F**king savages who belong in the stone age.
I’m mystified why the Left defend Islam so much. They have nothing in common. I have concluded that they do it simply to use as a weapon against the Right.
The far-right spoke up very early about grooming/raping gangs
The left chose to be complicit in the cover ups, for a number of reasons and ran with the narrative that the “far right HATES muslims”
Whereas those protesters didn’t say there was a problem with people’s skin colour, but rather it was the Islamic belief system they were following, led to sex crimes & coverups and other negatives.
Once convinced that the right are against them, many innocent followers of Islam would look at the left as “my enemy’s enemy is MY friend”
John,
“Strange bedfellows” as the expression goes.
Yes – or ‘The enemy of my enemy …’
“The Duke of Cambridge contracted Covid-19 earlier this year, palace sources have told the BBC.
It is believed he tested positive in April at a similar time to his father, the Prince of Wales.”
Note the use of the word “believed” .
Hidden away in Al Beeb Dover “Two Iranian men have been jailed for smuggling themselves and 29 people across the Channel on two overcrowded rigid-hulled inflatable boats (RHIB” . Will they all get deported , if not it’s ‘job done’ for the illegals . Note how our Tory government use draconian measures on us but not the same for illegals. On the contrary they are encouraging more illegals to attempt the crossing . Despite the vote for Brexit we still have an open border.
Pinch, punch…. nth bBc piece of ‘history‘ for the months….
***
“I just wanted to be white.”
Thousands of children born to African-American fathers and white German mothers at the end of World War Two suffered years of brutal racism.
(via BBC World Service) bbc.in/2TFWb5o
Something a bit odd going on with R5Dead…
Stephen Nolan had a caller near the end of his show at 1:00am, who went on a bit about his ailments, family etc, and about forty minutes later, the very same bloke cropped up on Dotun’s phone-in to say exactly the same thing!
It’s still online if anyone bothers to listen to it all, but surely, someone has been tinkering about with the calls and ‘managing’ who gets on, and maybe gets a call back later!
Is this the new way to get at Boris and Co?
The BBC have a database system for each caller
As soon as you call in their screen flashes up “good old lefty caller” etc.
And lists your previous calls.
To beat the system callers would need to call from a different phone from last time.
Yes, I noticed that a lot of the callers had been on before, Stew.
Most of their arguments are a bit ‘basic’, with a lot of ‘you knows’ and repeating their comments several times, so it’s not actually articulate, riveting stuff to listen to, but to get the same bloke on within 40 mins on two different progs, seems a bit over-the-top to me!
I have stopped listening to Jeremy Vine on Radio 2 but it was remarkable how often the angry ‘Toreee’ hater from Wales and the angry Muslim from Northampton just happened to phone in and get on air.
Is it possible that the BBC might have phoned them and told them what to say? Of course not.
Some time ago, I tried to get a song on the ‘Virtual Juke Box’, Jim.
I called very early, soon after 1:30am (sleepless in Kent), and while charming, the telephone lady said to wait until at least until 3:30am if there was a chance of getting on!
No cigar of course, but several boring bits of music later I gave up interest anyway!
I quite like Jonathan Wingate and Mark Webster, as at least they are real journalists, but as for the callers, I’m dismayed that anyone with half a brain really bothers now.
The Religion of Kidnapping, Rape And Paedophilia (acronym?) strikes again.
I’m sure Al-Beeb will be reporting this horrific story soon.
Ha ha, just kidding.
You have to feel for bbc photo editors at times.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-54772375?
“Don’t forget… mask diversity! Mask on… mask off…. mask on…”
Tubbo is off, and overwhelmed by good wishes… almost exclusively from Beeboids.
Who would not know democracy if they walked into a polling booth.
BBC carefully selecting Vox pops like fury now… and editting… editting as only the bbc can…
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Some say the US is now a house divided, with American homes split by political differences, which can put strains on relationships.
But one Chinese-American family in Maryland is making it work.
bbc.in/2HUfV2m
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Every 30 seconds, a Latino in the US turns 18 and becomes eligible to vote.
If they turn out, young Latino voters could swing the outcome of the election – so what are the issues they care most about?
bbc.in/3jIAexe
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What is the one issue the bbc most cares about? The only one. The one that obsesses them every minute…
Covid study : The prof in charge of ZOE the largest tracking app titled his 3 min video : “UK COVID cases not surging“
It’s not often I listen to the radio open-mouthed in disbelief. But there was some Soviet-quality propaganda on Good Morning Scotland this morning around 6:50.
Some chap from America was on to talk about the US election. That he was not a Trump supporter can be taken as a given, but he was talking about the fear of violence after the election – from the far right. Somehow the entire discussion managed to take place without once mentioning that all the violence to date, over several months, came from the Biden-supporting left.
They must be aware they are lying. Surely it’s not possible to convince yourself you’re telling the unbiased truth on a whopper of that size?
Classic projection.
‘Democracy’, Mardell style?
Same on R5Dead, Roland!
They just insinuate that shops being boarded up will mean rioting after the election, and the job’s done! Fear and trepidation for no reason other than to suit the BBC handbook on misrepresentation of the ‘facts’.
‘Four more years?’ frets the Guardian this morning. But don’t be too concerned, it’s not our seemingly endless lockdown restrictions that bother the most liberal-minded of our liberal-minded press – it’s the fear of: ‘What a second Trump term would mean for the US’
Oddly enough, we understand it was an American Civil Rights campaigner of the 1950s who coined the phrase “Keep Your Eyes on the Prize”
So whilst our own ancient civil rights gurgle away down the plughole of authoritarian covid fear, don’t forget Orange Man Bad.
The Daily Telegraph presents: ‘Your complete guide to the new rules’ – are you sitting comfortably? Then here’s the main headings: ‘Care Homes, Shielding, Child-minding, Holidays, Medical Care, Pregnancy…’ – I’ll stop for breath there and perhaps let the thought sink in about all those areas where the government is directing our lives. OK, here we go with more: ‘Meetings, Sport, Weddings, Visitors, Theatres…’ – and not forgetting last but not least: ‘Haircuts’
Can you just imagine how this one came up in cabinet? The earnest discussion around the table between Rishi, Gove, Patel and Hancock, with Johnson in the chair, over how and when and under what restrictions we would be allowed to get a haircut. I’m guessing Rishi will have raised concerns about the economic impacts whilst Patel would have explained the policing aspects.
The Telegraph tells me: ‘Sir Bobby Charlton diagnosed with dementia’ – there’s an awful lot of it about.
The Mail goes with: ‘A nightmare without end… Questions asked over “4,000 daily deaths” dossier that helped tip us back into lockdown’
Government by Dodgy Dossier – now where have we heard that before?
We need to praise the Mail as a rare source of opposition voices in a media class obsessed with lockdown and an arts and cultural class from whom the silence is defening. Wasn’t like that over Brexit was it?
The ‘i’ does art history: ‘Turner’s genius in capturing an era of change’
‘Lockdowns don’t work’ is the protest message projected onto Parliament as pictured on the front page of the Mail.
‘We’re launching a political party to fight the PM on a second lockdown’ says Nigel Farage in the Telegraph. Nice one Nigel, but I’m sorry, we just can’t afford to wait the three decades it took you and UKIP to get us out of the EU.
‘One in four pubs may never reopen’ (Telegraph) – at least Nigel sees the problem.
‘Please, no more Zoom!’ even the compliant lockdown toady Times is getting a bit stir crazy.
The Guardian warns: ‘Middle class “new hungry” turning to food banks’ – just wait until your middle management office job gets outsourced to Taiwan and Ting-Ting is attending all your Zoom diversity conferences for half your salary.
The Guardian leads our middle class lemmings over the lockdown redundancy cliff quoting some Sage bod: ‘Better [to extend the lockdown] than have to impose more draconian measures’ – meaning it could get even more restrictive? More “homeworking”. More corporate potential for outsourced jobs. By the way, didn’t Spurs get beat by a Draconian team in their recent Europa Cup match?
‘No10 urged to rethink “confusing” sports ban’ (Telegraph). Notice how policies don’t tend to be criticised as being wrong these days, just confusing.
Truly the seditious hypocrisy of the BBC knows no bounds.
After days of undermining the government’s Tiers policy they finally got what they wanted – lockdown mk2.
So what do we suddenly get on Toady this morning?
Lots of airtime given over one after the other to opponents of lockdown, a very slightly sceptical sage member, the Ryanair boss, and then three self-employed people all in a row, all of whom will see their businesses trashed.
Now whether you’re for or against government measures, the relentless anti- government bias of the BBC is there for all to see.
Hot news. i’ve seen a draft copy of the Toady running order for tomorrow.
‘Government announces sun will set later this afternoon. Some say it won’t. We talk to the Flat Earth Society president, the Blind Bats secretary, and self-employed people who live and work work underground later in the programme’.
The TOADY Editors have not published the Running Order for a few years now. It used to be available on the web-site.
I wonder why?
There was a time I’d not be paying attention to O’Leary’s claims.
I wonder how many get their tvl refund the instant they cancel?
https://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/experts/article-8196939/I-need-cancel-TV-licence-website-says-cancel-Direct-Debit.html
Andrew Lawrence has been put out of work by Boris for a month, so he’s put up his gig on Pay per view
3 mins of sweary preview
“Tommy is out, and he was charged with absolutely nothing”
… I wouldn’t rule out Met Police magicking up something later.
Can the Met be charged with wasting the the public’s taxes?
They probably put him a cell with someone who has Chinese virus ….
He must sue for assault – malicious conduct – wrongful arrest -and identify the plod involved …all of them need public accountability …
The @CrimeLdn account
has a load of shocking videos of actual crimes happening in London yesterday.
GW
Impersonating a Police Force?
Very good. I may ‘homage’ that if it’s ok.
Charged with wasting police time, I hope.
Met Police PR are a bit busy today
cos the The Undercover Policing Inquiry begins today
about undercover officers getting activists pregnant etc.
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-54753627
Never understood the vagaries of consensual nooky, especially if one in control of their body was clearly less in control.
Still, good job the guys back at the office we’re not into head shaving*, tarring or feathering those over fraternising.
*That said, I few more bullish ones do sport fascinating plumage styles.
Met Police also just disciplined an officer about something else
Nigel Farage statement video
Is Nigel speaking from inside an airship?
TOADY Watch #1 – R is Rishi; R is for Rebellion and R is for Rate
I missed the first few minutes of Mishal’s interview with Chancellor of the Exchequer, Rishi Sunak so I do not know if she asked him about rebellious Tory MPs. Rishi did talk quite a bit about the R rate, the supposed rate of spread of the Covid-19/Covid-20 viruses.
It would be great if the BBC did some journalism and went to find out if the R rate was published anywhere on a daily and UK-wide basis since near the end of March this year? So much Government policy is now being predicated on the R rate it is quite important to know what it is every day.
I’m sure the BBC could find out if they had a mind to.
Up2,
I posted late last week that Fatty Nolan had a discussion with Hugh Pimm regards the ‘R’ rate, this during the Nolan Radio5 dead show.
I paraphrase:
Fatty asked what the current rate was, Between 1.0 and 1.3 was the reply.
What was it in March (asked Nolan) Around 3.0, says Pimm.
Silence from Fatty.
So they know.
The West, sorry must have missed that post or it didn’t stick as I speed read through a page of posts.
As I have mentioned in debate with Stew Green over death statistics, if they are not recorded accurately they are not a good basis for making policy.
I would not trust Hugh Pym’s claim of the R rate being at 3 in March. I have a suspicion that it has never been above 1 anywhere in the UK’s four nations for the whole time this year. I have a glimmer of a memory that it was sub-1 in April when – it is claimed – all the deaths were occurring in the UK but my memory is becoming unreliable.
I would like to really know if there is a really accurate R record for all of the nations of the UK somewhere kept by someone really good at collating information who is completely honest and wishes to remain independent of partisanship. Someone like the ONS, perhaps, who are paid by the taxpayer to be thus and thus.
The virus will always be out there
Lockdowns just play hide & seek with it
When we come out of hiding it comes out to play again
BBC staff get full pay on lockdowns
Is it a wonder they believe lockdowns save more human-life-days
than is LOST due to deaths from lockdown effects
Stew, there seem to be an impressive number of irresponsible people prepared to take a chance with the viruses. Especially young people, it appears, from two weekend ‘Raves’ and BAME people, if the Shishi Bar in Birmingham is anything to go by.
Did the PM mention personal responsibility in his address to the nation (minus Scotland, minus Wales, minus Northern Ireland) I wonder? And the NHS starting to take responsibility for themselves and their situation instead of constantly blaming (Conservative) Government and constantly just wanting more money as a solution.
Up2, with respect, I think you’ve missed the point…
The virus isn’t killing any more people than we usually lose during this time of the year to flu and pneumonia. The five year mortality figures are nigh on identical. Amazingly, this year, deaths to these two maladies have massively decreased while being replaced by covid.
Kids are letting off steam because they have to. They know our inept PM is about to imprison them again, for at least a month, though I suspect longer.
The lockdown has failed. The three tier system was worse than useless.
Whitty and Vallance are resorting to a sort of scientific superstition. It makes me think of pagans slaughtering virgins to make sure their crops would provide a decent harvest. If the crops failed they believed they hadn’t murdered a sufficient number of young women.
There is a success story. Not perfect, but a heck of a lot better than this semi permanent imprisonment we’re being reduced to.
No lockdowns, no masks, no imprisoning their population…
Sweden.
Jeff, I could make the same response, you have missed the obvious points. The virus(es) are still around. As Stew says, we’ll have to live with them – as we do with colds and ‘flu’ – for some time. I corrected Stew on his over-estimate of deaths the other day (he was using the BBC’s ‘drama queen’ figure) and deaths from Covid-19 according to Professor Calum Semple (he’s not keen on Lockdowns) are running at 0.2% per 100,000 infected (he was interviewed on R4 at weekend lunchtime, IIRC) but even he admits they could go to 15% per 100,000.
However the key point that everyone is missing in our informal, undeclared Civil War and that the PM has grasped is that come what may, HMG is a hostage to the NHS. There are no two ways about it. The NHS is not just dependent on bed capacity (and Civil Servants have been constantly cutting that over the years, even under a Labour Govt) but it is dependent on staffing.
Consider this. Female nurses of certain ages: wake up before due to go on shift, feel hot, take temperature and are feverish, they are on the ‘phone to work “Maybe I had better quarantine myself.” Same with all nurses, any gender, any age, waking up with a sniffle from a cold or the shivers from ordinary ‘flu’ and is on the phone to work “I have a symptom.” “Is it Covid?” “It might be, I had better quarantine.”
There’s no need for a Trade Union to call a strike in the NHS now and face public opprobrium. All the staff need to do to hold the Government to ransom via Covid-19 symptons, real, undiagnosed symptoms or imagined undiagnosed symptoms.
The only armoury HMG has is statistics but they already have the NHS miscounting on deaths and undermining them on that score and there is no guarantee that the Civil Servants at the ONS are neutral in this war. The BBC are certainly not. I would really like to know who arranged to change the data displayed here, https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-51768274 from county-wide to Local Authority district. I can no longer trust the BBC. Was it them? Or was it PH(England)? Or was it the ONS?
Then, because HMG relied on a small group in March, known as SAGE (that appeared to be very light on virologists) for their advice, you have Whitty and Vallance who are both prone to panic but also like to damp a finger, hold it in the prevailing breeze, and state “We could have 40,000 people dying every month from the Covid virus.” We could. It hasn’t happened yet. It is probably highly unlikely.
However, they key to that scenario takes me back to my reply above to Stew; that all depends on the behaviours of people and the examples from last week were not encouraging in that regard.
@Up2snuff “deaths from Covid-19 according to Professor Calum Semple are running at 0.2% per 100,000 infected
What the heck is that metric ?
Death rate stat is either a *percentage* of infected
OR number *per* 100,000 infected
You can’t mangle them both
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BTW I did realise something this morning
when I heard the respected JPA Ioninides using a stat of 0.15-0.2%.
That sounds like what you were talking about, and what Yeadon quotes
BUT that is not the “death rate per infection”
Rather it’s a completely different metric “likely death rate over the ENTIRE *POPULATION*”
The reason why it is so much lower than “death rate per infection” is cos say 30% of people already have natural Tcell immunity
Given 67 million in the UK Ioninides 0.2% stat
gives us 0.2 x 670,000 = 134,000 MAXIMUM possible deaths
We have already had 47K With-Covid deaths
That’ a third of the max, so suggests one third of the population have come into contact with a full infection load
I don’t think that can be true
Why ? cos that would show up in antibody tests
I sill think UK has had about only 5 million infections
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“I corrected Stew on his over-estimate of deaths the other day ”
No you didn’t
I checked my maths and it was right
I now suspect as I just said you were using a different metric
but that this was not clear from your wording
I see there oN Oct 24th You suggested the 46K stat is an over estimate
I agree
but it can’t be that much lower otherwise we wouldn’t have had such a huge pike in excess deaths. Could be 25K I uppose
I see that OCTOBER 27, 2020 AT 11:02 PM I suggested to you that even though the death rate per infection is 2%
Few under 50 dies
So yes if you compartmentalise you can say the under 50 death rate per infection is 0.15% or something.
Stew, I was just quoting – albeit from unreliable memory – what Calum Semple said.
BTW, Stew, if you type 100,000 into a calculator and then hit the multiply button and then type in 2 or 0.2 (or whatever) and then hit the equals button, what do you get?
I think you will find that it’s a number. Apologies for being a bit sarcastic but different science & medicine disciplines (virology/pharmacy/epidimiology/respiratory) probably have a standard measurement that is different from each other. A percentage of a 100,000 is quite legitimate in that discipline.
The BBC use that 46,000 death number I suspect because it is large enough to be scary to some viewers and listeners. It probably includes influenza deaths, severe asthma deaths with/without a severe (common) cold. We know that we do not have accurate figures for Covid-19 deaths in this part of the UK thanks to Public Health (England).
corrn: please add hit percentage button at the appropriate place in the calculator illustration.
On a TfL train today.
There was an announcement to make sure we all were wearing masks over our noses and mouths.
At the exact time of this announcement a black female train ticket inspector was standing by the door with her mask pulled down To her chin !!!!!
You just can’t make it up.
It just takes a few percent of cocky tossers who refuse to play by the rules to screw it up for all the rest of us.
And they have.
Enjoy Thursday.