Start the Week 28 December 2020

Can you feel the fresh wave of Grief the BBC is feeling as it comes to terms with really leaving the EU in 4 days time ? Will it experience acceptance ? Or set up a ‘rejoin unit ‘ to pump out more anti British Propaganda and telling taxpayers what they are ‘missing ‘in their perfect EU? Meanwhile an extra 12 million people have signed up to pay TV in the last year …..

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327 Responses to Start the Week 28 December 2020

  1. JohnC says:

    Having a look at what the BBC thinks is ‘funny’ these days, This ‘article’ is an excellent example of just how wide they are of the mark. Vicar Of Dibley was another. They think it’s funny in the same way they wet their panties when someone famous reads out the wrong result at an awards ceremony.

    It’s like watching children do a GCSE project.


    • StewGreen says:

      Zoom: All the times virtual meetings didn’t go as planned this year From animal interruptions to catching fire, here’s a look back at the year we spent (badly) online.

      Missing context : That a BBC employee was was in court this year after he was caught , gland in hand, watching child porn during a zoom meeting in 2018.
      BBC project manager Duncan Wheelhouse caught watching child rape media on group Zoom call in a police sting. He engaged in a virtual meeting corresponding with others discussing child abuse, watching child rape images being live-streamed


      • Roland Deschain says:

        A client of mind once said that Zoom meetings remind him of The Muppet Show. It’s one of those things you can’t unsee once seen.


  2. Sluff says:

    I’ve postulated on this site that Greta Thumberg is a modern cabbage patch doll.
    I now realise she is in fact a poorly programmed cyborg.
    How so?
    Listening briefly to her cosyish chat with Margaret Attwood and the Toady female presenter (Martha?) this morning, it struck me that she has about a half dozen stock phrases or answers which cover a variety of questions typically asked by on-message interviewers such as those on the BBC. But the slightest deviation, anything even faintly critical, and that requires an imaginative or different approach, and the computer says no and the result is a magnitude jump in incoherent, cliched, inanity.
    More work required from the programmers. And in more ways than one.


    • JohnC says:

      I’m always amazed nobody takes her to task about being able to actually see CO2 rising from rubbish dumps.
      Might actually show people what a damaged fantasist she is. Her parents and people like those at the BBC should be jailed for child abuse. She’s going the way of David Ike.


    • Ian Rushlow says:

      It’s a function of her type of autism: obsessive focus on a very small range of topics, inability to handle anything else, lacking empathy, indifferent to people and suffering. She has indeed been literally programmed by her parents to spout this nonsense. Remember, it is a medical condition and not a reflection on her intelligence or value as a person.

      On the other hand, the entire BBC displays something analogous to a corporate version of it, being entirely obsessed with race, gender, perversion, criminality, globalism and bogus environmentalism (although these topics do tend to overlap). Yes, liberalism is also a sickness of the mind, but in their case it is a disease of choice and no sympathy should be offered at all.


  3. Fedup2 says:

    British behaviour overseas seems to be a popular theme at the moment . Bronte Beach Party on Christmas Day in Sydney – naughty – even worse -ski types making off from Switzerland to avoid a lock down .
    Rebellion is well and truly being crushed now …..
    And just to add to that – the government ‘MSM is grooming us to be ready for the next tier – I’ve lost count now -is it 4 5 6 7 ?


  4. StewGreen says:

    Salty Cracker : Oakland California, leftie outrage after Breonna Taylor statue smashed
    It’s controversial cos it’s a new statue in honour of a less than innocent black lady whose boyfriend said that she was shooting through the door at cops as they knocked.
    The cops shot back and killed her
    It later turned out the boyfriend was the one who had been shhoting at the cop.


  5. StewGreen says:

    The BBC comedian who makes jokes about disabled kids


    • Oldspeaker says:

      Apparently Boyle also writes for the bbc print arm
      “Boyle appears to have decided that there was more money to be earned being a BBC-approved comedian with a column in the Guardian than there was being a depraved, foul-mouthed bad boy ”
      Read elsewhere that the alleged hate crime happened about five years ago, Boyle is quoted saying
      ““I would like [Gervais] to have the same respect for trans people as he seems to have for animals. I don’t think that’s a lot to ask.””
      So Boyle wants trans people treated like animals?
      Out of context anything can be twisted.


  6. Fedup2 says:

    Andrew neill has twittered his calculation of the cost of severance for those leaving the BBC – 168000 licence fees … if you still pay yours – doesn’t that give you a warm feeling of where it’s going ?
    And how many redundancies will end being redeployed as ‘consultants “?

    Is it any wonder why we hear so few leaks from people within the BBC …?


  7. Up2snuff says:

    Any news of Halifax? Anyone heard anything?


    • StewGreen says:

      There was no reply from him to Deborah’s post on Christmas eve
      However a lot of people do go away from Christmas.


      • StewGreen says:

        Halifax posted about 6 times on Nov 26th
        Previously he reported testing positive on Oct 16th
        and being in hospital on Nov16th


  8. Dover Sentry says:

    US Election News. This is likely to be interesting. I’ve done some research, and it does not appear to be fake news. If correct, Trump has now won Pennsylvannia and gained 20 Electoral College Votes.

    “HARRISBURG, Pa. (WJAC) — A group of Republican lawmakers say they’ve performed an extensive analysis of election day data and they’ve found “troubling” discrepancies.

    According to State Rep. Frank Ryan (R-Lebanon), 17 lawmakers sponsored and participated in the analysis.

    Ryan, who is a certified public accountant, says they discovered discrepancies between the numbers of total votes counted and total number of voters who voted in the 2020 General Election which is making them question how the results could have been certified by Gov. Tom Wolf and Secretary of the Commonwealth Kathy Boockvar.

    Ryan says they found that 6,962,607 total ballots were reported as being cast, while DoS/SURE system records indicated that only 6,760,230 total voters actually voted.”


  9. Guest Who says:

    Luckily Big Aunty in the form of Nihal is there to make it alllllll better.


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  11. JohnC says:

    Shock!, Horror! – front page news:
    “Brexit deal mentions Netscape browser and Mozilla Mail”. On page 921.

    They even got some comment on this disaster from some random professor from Edingburgh to help them create a mountain out of this molehill – with the implication being of course that the whole deal is now rubbished.

    “The UK government has not yet responded to the BBC’s request for comment.”. I expect they just wish the BBC would f*ck off. Like the rest of us.

    They really are like spiteful schoolboys. They clearly aren’t happy with this deal. I suspect they wanted either full May-style capitulation or for the country to burn.


  12. Guest Who says:

    OT, but has itv thought what happens if it doesn’t change.


  13. Guest Who says:

    Nice bit of understatement.

    Thinking of most BBC studio denizens, they are almost all evil nutters to a man, woman and other.


    • StewGreen says:

      The person who runs the Rosen account acts like he’s in the Corbynista school bully gang
      .. gang members tend to spit out the odd nasty tweet against Trump or Brexit to signal that they are in with the gang.
      If you don’t you risk being ostracised.

      Rosen had been arguing that you do have to worry about asymptomatic carriers spreading Covid,
      his theory being that actual sick people don’t infect others cos they stop at home.
      Whereas others were arguing that asymptomatic carriers don’t have a high viral load so you rarely catch a viral dose off them.

      After Polly’s third tweet
      that said PCR was finding Covid antibodies that came not from Covid but from other Coronaviruses like the Common Cold

      Rosen replied : “Sorry, I’m bored now. Cheers.”


    • StewGreen says:

      What’s going on is that Hitchens likes today’s Mail presentation
      that says only 388 people under 60s with no underlying health conditions UHCs have died
      And added the BBC never admits that.
      The LeftyWaffe are not going to have the Mail win and the BBC insulted, so they have piled in Rosen followed by Alice Roberts.

      Rosen with 50 tweets against Hitchens this afternoon
      His narrative : so you are saying millions of people with UHC can just die.

      And Alice Roberts
      “There are 5.4 million people in the UK with asthma alone.
      All of them ready to be written off by the DM and Hitchens,
      it seems.”

      That’s MISREPRESENTATION young people with asthma are not in much danger of Covid.
      – The first thing to do is shield over 60s with UHC
      – Then all over 70s
      That’s almost all deaths prevented

      The LeftWaffe narrative is that “People with UHCs are 25% of the population”.. Yes but although there could be 10 million people with UHCs under 60 they still have a very low death risk
      even though it’s not zero.

      78 % of people who have died with Covid who had a UHC
      had at least one of the four following
      – Chronic liver disease, CPD, dementia,
      and diabetes (with another comorbidity caused by diabetes ie chronic obesity)


    • StewGreen says:

      Rosen’s blogpost is less verbose than his 50 tweets today


  14. Philip_2 says:

    BBC Brexit predictions come unstuck (again). So they don’t report it…. After all the BBC never get anything wrong do they?
    (from the Telegraph today 29th December 2020)
    I’m sure it was purely pressure of space that stopped the BBC website reporting a forecast by the Centre for Economic and Business Research (CEBR) that the UK economy will grow to become 23 per cent larger than that of France by 2035. It mentioned in passing that the CEBR has the UK growing by four per cent per year between now and 2025 and by 1.8 per cent from 2026 onwards, but only at the end of a long report about the Chinese economy overtaking the US by 2028. What it didn’t say was that the CEBR sees UK growth outstripping that of EU countries. The French economy is currently 3.5 per cent behind that of the UK. The CEBR also sees the UK economy outgrowing Germany: today, it is 43 per cent smaller but by 2035, reckons the CEBR, it will be just 10 per cent behind.

    True, I don’t put much store by economic forecasts, nearly all of which are about as accurate as Michael Fish’s infamous failure to forecast the Great Storm of 1987. Yet the BBC’s omission is a little odd in that the corporation has been previously been assiduous in reporting think tanks’ economic forecasts for post-Brexit Britain, often making them lead items on the news. To give a flavour, in 2016 it reported that the “CBI cuts forecast amid Brexit dark cloud of uncertainty”. In 2017 it reported “IMF downgrades UK growth forecast on Brexit”, while on the negotiation of the withdrawal agreement in October 2019 it reported: “Brexit Deal means £70 billion hit to UK”.

    It isn’t hard to spot a slight theme here: when economists were forecasting doom it was big news; when they start changing their minds and decide that actually a post-Brexit UK will outperform the EU it is no news at all…

    Just as well, I avoid the BBC, like the plague!


    • Sluff says:

      For most of the last two decades the EU and especially the Eurozone has been the lowest growth economic block.

      By exiting and re-aligning we have the chance to engage more with the faster growing areas.

      Whether we have the nous and imagination and drive and determination to do so remains to be seen.


  15. Sluff says:

    Just putting in my heartless b****** application.

    Watching ‘Deep Impact’ on C4.

    A comet is about to hit the Earth causing an extinction event.

    To have a chance for life to survive, the US have a plan for one million people to survive in deep caves for two years.

    200,000 are picked on the basis of essential skills.
    800,000 are picked at random but among these no -one over the age of 50 is picked. The aim being to maximise capability.

    With this concept in mind, what do we make of the government’s coronavirus vaccination programme, where many of those least likely to contribute anything to national recovery are prioritised?


  16. Salty says:

    Even talkradio had the off switch engaged today. The cognitive dissonance caused by the hourly ‘news’ updates was just too much; it just makes the presenters seem like pandering, controlled opposition.


    • StewGreen says:

      You don’t have to listen to the news
      The trick is to listen on Youtube and wind back an hour or two
      Then when it comes to the news tap “L” or side of right the of the screen to jump forward in 20 second bursts.


      • Salty says:

        True that, but it feels like they’re just telling me what I want to hear…I think i’ll just stick to the echo chambers that don’t actively assault ones senses with the mainstream media bullshit narrative (it’s a Sky news psyop)


  17. Guest Who says:

    Does one dare check Lurch’s twitter thread?


  18. theisland says:

    Click to access ERG-Legal-Advisory-Committee-Opinion-on-EU-UK-Trade-and-Cooperation-Agreement.pdf

    Conclusion. Our overall conclusion is that the Agreement preserves the UK’s sovereignty as a matter of law and fully respects the norms of international sovereign-to-sovereign treaties. The “level playing field” clauses go further than in comparable trade agreements, but their impact on the practical exercise of sovereignty is likely to be limited if addressed by a robust government. In any event they do not prevent the UK from changing its laws as it sees fit at a risk of tariff countermeasures, and if those were unacceptable the Agreement could be terminated on 12 months’ notice.

    On fisheries:
    Fisheries. The Agreement provides for continued access by EU vessels to UK waters (i.e. the UK’s territorial waters and its Exclusive Economic Zone) during a 5½ year period up to mid2026, during which EU vessels are to have defined, but progressively declining, shares of the Total Allowable Catches of fish species as specified in the Annexes. This aspect of the Agreement temporarily limits the exercise of the UK’s sovereign rights over its waters that would apply in the absence of the Agreement.
    However, the Agreement does not require the UK to continue to follow and apply the Common Fisheries Policy rules. Furthermore, and importantly, the UK may modify the rules, e.g. to strengthen conservation, subject to the constaint that it may not discriminate between UK and EU vessels in the rules which it applies.
    At the end of this transitional period, the UK will have the legal right to take full control of its waters, despite a question mark introduced by the last column in the table in Annex FISH.1 (p893) being headed “2026 onwards”. After that time the EU may impose tariffs on UK fish exports to the EU, and EU leverage may also include the termination of the energy title and the transitional, less restrictive rules of origin for electric batteries. The question of practical sovereignty is therefore dependent on the preparedness and robustness of the UK Government’s response at that time, which we are confident they will achieve.

    So the key to all this is if we have a “robust government.”
    Fat chance.


  19. Guest Who says:

    BBC Radio 4

    At the company’s inaugural press conference, a journalist questioned whether they would be able to find enough books from female authors to publish the following year. The journalist needn’t have worried.


    This very BBC.


  20. Guest Who says:

    Time to get Heseltine back in, BBC?


    • Roland Deschain says:

      Ah, it appears that the ever reasonable-when-it-suits Mr Dale has blocked me. That must date back to my spat with him a number of weeks back when he tried to accuse me of something I didn’t say, and he objected to me pointing that out. Don’t ever fall for his public Mr Reasonable persona. He’s a fraud.


      • Up2snuff says:

        Yeah, Darcy3 did that – accused me of something I didn’t say – to me before Christmas. I’m still waiting for an apology.

        Might be a long wait, like for the apology I’m owed by our Troller-in-Chief, maxi.


  21. Guest Who says:

    The NHS and the BBC have an interesting relationship, based mainly on enemies of enemies.

    Odd way to operate health systems or media, but they appear to like it.


    • Deborah says:

      Has Dan Johnson not thought that the doctors or nurses may be a bit busy at the moment with better things to do than talk to journalists. Or it may be than Dan has already thought of his story and the doctors and nurses don’t want to be part of a story with a previously decided agenda.


      • StewGreen says:

        I was guessing that with the Covid crisis and all
        the NHS was trying to stop random people bringing it in.
        Journalists do consider themselves a special class.


  22. Darcy3 says:

    This is why one should never give in inch to certain people and organisations:

    Self-styled ‘Black Panther of Oxford’ behind BLM-inspired political party calls for ‘Holocaust-style’ reparations for all black people and a sex offenders-style ‘race offence register’

    This would include people guilty of ‘micro-aggressions’, which the Oxford Dictionary defines as ‘indirect, subtle, or unintentional discrimination against members of a marginalised group’.

    ‘It’s similar to the sex offenders register,’ she told MailOnline. ‘If you were to be racially abusive to someone, [the register] would question whether someone is fit enough to hold a particular job where their bias could influence another person’s life.

    Ms Johnson said inclusion on the list would mean you could be excluded from ‘certain fields’ of employment – or even banned from living near people from ethnic minorities.

    ‘If you live in a majority-coloured neighbourhood you shouldn’t reside there because you’re a risk to those people – just like if a sex offender lived next to a school he would be a risk to those children,’ she said.

    While the party does not provide a list of specific offences which would warrant inclusion on the register, its manifesto does state that anyone merely ‘accused’ of an offence would be added, as well as anyone ‘charged’ with a race crime.


    • Darcy3 says:

      NOTE in this deranged b****’s twisted world it is enough just to be accused…….

      in order to lose one’s house and livelihood

      and yet it is reported this thing is a “youth worker” infecting young peoples’ minds with this filth


    • StewGreen says:

      That’s actually a cheap shot by the Mail.
      “Sasha Johnson” is known for being barking
      So any story that says “Oxford’s Sasha Johnson has said something barking”
      .. is not news.


      • Darcy3 says:

        @SG you miss the point entirely.

        She may have a ‘roo loose in the top paddock as the Aussies would say.

        But it is her voice that is getting heard regularly, a damn site more than most in this country including all on this site, by a lot more people

        and a hypocrite of the highest degree, guilty of racially abusing a black man, so should give up her house and job

        and guilty of cultural appropriation having straightened her hair to look more like whitey, obviously ashamed of frizzy hair

        and associated with BLM amongst other far left groups


    • Seppers says:

      Scary world we now live in.


  23. digg says:

    Halima Begum appointed in September has hit the ground running, New head of the Runnymede Trust she has declared Boris’s plan to put more investment in the poorer North to help support poor white working class people as “White Nationalist”.

    Halima Begum said ministers had failed to respond meaningfully to the “seismic shifts” represented by Black Lives Matters (BLM) protests and the disproportionate effect of Covid-19 on black and minority ethnic (BAME) Britons.

    I think the government’s long-term plan is to work up white nationalism for the next elections,” said Begum. (I think it’s actually YOUR plan Begum!)

    Begum said she believed the Conservative government was inspired by the electoral success of rightwing politicians such as Trump in 2016 but also the party’s “individualistic notion of society and the economy”.

    So this seems to be the same tactic used against Trump. Shout racist, racist, racist and thus get as much confrontation as possible and get all the malcontents on board.

    As in the USA, the is an attempt by a non-partisan quango to engage in left-wing politics to their own ends. Trying to stir up hatred in an attempt to grab more power.

    A quick look at the senior staff at the Trust reveals that none are white.

    I wonder what Halima Begum gets in remuneration, paid for by the taxes levied in the main on the majority White Working Class in this Country?

    I expect much more of this false, shit-stirring in the next few years.


    • Roland Deschain says:

      That sort of thing needs a very firm ‘f@*k off’ from the very start. Unfortunately the very start was probably at least 20 years ago.


    • StewGreen says:

      The Runnymede Trust
      “The UK’s leading independent race equality think tank”
      is it a surprise they spin everything to be about race ?


  24. Guest Who says:

    That would be a pass.


    • StewGreen says:

      “Man went to Barnard Castle”
      ..was never a news story in the first place

      It made zero difference to my life
      It’s a pure media event.


      • Seppers says:

        ‘Woman with Covid positive test result takes train to Scotland’ on the other hand seems to be played down.


  25. Guest Who says:

    Paranoia is….


  26. Guest Who says:

    The bbc invites on who the bbc is confident will say what the bbc wants said.


  27. Fedup2 says:

    I’m glad – now – that the daily lack of diversity of thought or idea is the habit of the BBC . The more people alienated from Islington group think the better – the listening figures must be so small as to be unmeasurable .

    Toady used to be quite influential – the red Tories have had to use it from time to time during the pandemic but would anyone really miss it now? The gotcha interview at 0810 or 0854 is nothing more than a ritual ….( I say this because I can’t remember the last time I read that a gotcha interview had had any impact )

    ….I speak out of ignorance as I don’t think I’ve heard Toady at all for around 6 months – and never will again .


    • Up2snuff says:

      I’ll be back on the TOADY Chain Gang – maybe – on 4 Jan, Fed. I must say that a few days of little or no BBC Radio4 at all, Christmas Day, Boxing Day and Sunday have been really very pleasant. Just did the lunchtime R4 news on Sunday and today but even that got switched off before the end.


  28. Fedup2 says:

    I’m thinking of putting up the Midweek Thread – because – for what it’s worth these days – it’s midweek….


  29. Guest Who says:

    Lewis Goodhall liked this.


  30. StewGreen says:

    NotALot is the first place to look on Climate Stuff
    He’s taken apart last night’s Christmas Lecture
    ..which had Al Gore style misinformation.


    • Tabs says:

      I was just watching a bit of episode 2 of the Christmas Lecture. Every cutaway shot of the kids watching via the internet includes a black and/or Muslim kid. One particular shot of a full classroom of kids had them all wearing a mask and a burka/hijab.

      Nice to see the BBC maintaining this great British tradition.


  31. vlad says:

    I’ve scoured the pages of the lying BBC website but can’t seem to find anything about Gallup showing Trump to be the most admired man of 2020.

    How strange then that the senile, criminal, teleprompter-fumbling Biden won so many millions more votes than him in what the BBC assures us is the most fair and honest election in the history of the universe.


  32. JCalvertN says:

    The BBC is an organisation OF civil servants; FOR civil servants.
    So is the EU.
    For the BBC, the EU is the civil service writ large and triumphant – the civil servant’s idea of heaven.