Midweek Thread 6 January 2021

There is to be a parliamentary ‘debate ‘ about the new variant of Lockdown . Will there be dissenters ? Where will the biased BBC stand ?

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  1. Dover Sentry says:

    The BBC? Needs to be replaced as soon as. If not before.

    Here’s something I posted at the end of the last thread:

    How to save the BBC.

    a) How about a 20 minute News section at 6 pm and 9 pm with no political commentary.

    b) For the rest of the evening, sensible documentaries and amusing comedies.

    c) No day time television.

    d) Close Down at eleven followed by the national anthem.

    Why has this never been tried? Wait a minute….

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  2. taffman says:

    Dover Sentry
    “How to save the BBC.”
    Don’t bother.
    Simples.

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  3. Dover Sentry says:

    Agreed.

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  4. taffman says:

    “Covid-19: UK daily coronavirus cases top 60,000 for first time”
    Probably much more than that. It’s just the testing is catching up. Many have had Covid and don’t even know that they have had it?
    More testing throws up more cases . Simples .

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    • StewGreen says:

      60K/day actual cases = 60K/day immune
      a positive despite a few deaths being accelerated

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  5. Nibor says:

    More if I may on the book : The War Against The BBC – TWATBBC .

    Chapter 8 , In Which We Meet …

    Here this site is mentioned . I quote :

    “There are now websites , like Biased BBC , entirely devoted to visceral attacks on the Corporation .”

    That word visceral is unusual , even ridiculous . It tells us about the book and the two authors .

    Visceral is defined by dictionaries as having an opinion based more on emotion than rational thought . Visceral means in the blood .
    I think it means more than that . It also means having an attitude towards something that is out of place , that is not warranted and totally wrong .
    For example , when I tell you the Department of Transport has a visceral contempt for British road hauliers and drivers , you obviously know that it has no business to have that attitude , but if I say the Anti Nazi League has a visceral dislike of Nazis the word is superfluous , ridiculous because of course they would have that feeling .
    So here we have a website set up to record , monitor and analyse the bias of the BBC and the authors of TWATBBC put the word visceral in , implying that the website should not exist because there`s no reason for it . The posts you make are just prejudiced attacks on the integrity of the BBC .
    Apart from trying to link this site with Alt Right movements ( which as usual are not right wing ) the authors do not disect this site , the methods you use here to bring to the fore the bias of the BBC or any failings of you posters . You`re wrong to them for the temerity of not accepting the BBC as the great British institution they decree it is .

    If you can eventually go into a bookshop , a little peak at page 118 of TWATBBC is where you`re mentioned .

    more to follow .

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    • StewGreen says:

      Tool : look inside the book

      There are now websites, like Biased BBC, entirely devoted to visceral attacks on the Corporation.

      Right-wing YouTube channels include both general British alt-right* ones like The Iconoclast

      There is no left-wing site equivalent to News-watch – or even Biased BBC –
      which are entirely devoted to delegitimizing its news and current affairs coverage.
      Nor do people on the left object in principle to a public service broadcaster

      Don’t they ?

      * boo word label , used to misrepresent

      David Vance, the founder* of the Biased BBC website, turns out to be a colourful character formed in the politics of Belfast and the right-wing Traditional
      Unionist Voice

      Vance may seem palpably – even comically – of the American fringe and unlikely to have ..

      * incorrect, not the founder

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      • StewGreen says:

        ” On his YouTube channel, Vance supports Tommy Robinson”

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      • Doublethinker says:

        The weak spot and the srength of the BBC is its method of funding. To maintain a universal License Fee it must retain the support of a large majority of those who are forced to pay for it. But that support has beeen steadily dropping for some years now because the BBC has a very different set of values to those it expects to pay for it but insists on evangelising in an attempt to convert the country to its way of thinking on just about every topic under the sun. People are growing increasingly resentful of being forced to pay for its preaching and at the same time there are more and more ways to find information and entertainment.
        If ever there was a time for a Tory Government to cut the BBC down to size and make become entirely self funding this is it. There will plenty of grass roots support for such a move.

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    • JohnC says:

      I just searched for it online and read the preface/summary they advertise with it.
      I doubt I could read the actual book without everyone nearby thinking I have tourettes syndrome.

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Nibor – I wonder if the authors of that book have read this site recently . It’s not just about ‘visceral attacks ‘ it’s about ending public compelled subscription to a monopoly organisation or just ending it.
      If it wants to promote a biased lefty social agenda let it do it on its own ‘dime ‘ but not on the taxpayers ‘ under threat of criminal sanction …

      Methinks the authors are either not the sharpest tools in the box or can’t be bothered with detail or both ….

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      • StewGreen says:

        Visceral : “not intellectual : instinctive, unreasoning visceral drives.
        crude or elemental emotions”

        Projection is a libmob characteristic

        Posts here are actually mostly analytic
        whereas arguments from libmob tend to be visceral eg rush to mis-frame people as racist and dismiss them etc.

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        • Fedup2 says:

          Stew – I like ‘visceral ‘ – all those years of academic education I went through casually dumped by my ‘betters’. These guys like a simple version of the world – bless them – but i suppose they feel important and make a living from writing books and appearing on the BBC with their chums …

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        • StewGreen says:

          Visceral is lefty Twitter
          everytime the BBC dare to let on a non-lefty
          Last night : “how dare they have Toby Young on”
          Today : “Jesus…not birbalsingh!.”

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    • Seppers says:

      I’m old fashioned left-wing, quite green, and socially fairly liberal, not alt right!
      Just think the bbc is unfairly biased, and don’t believe it should have an ideological agenda, which I notice, daily.

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  6. JimS says:

    Tucked away in the ‘Europe’ news, EU court backs ban on animal slaughter without stunning.

    The EU does it = Good
    The Muslims don’t like it = Bad
    The Jews don’t like it = Good

    For the BBC a 2-1 win for a ban?

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    • taffman says:

      JimS
      Will this ban be coming to the UK ?
      Will the RSPCA take note and follow up?

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    • JohnC says:

      I really hope they do. It’s illegal under every civilised code and only allowed as a religious exemption for those still living in the stone age.
      It’s a scandal that the meat is not very clearly separated and labelled by law.

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      • Darcy3 says:

        It won’t stop them they have no respect for our laws and pick and choose which ones suite their agenda such as racism laws to allow them to abuse and attack all around them with apparent impunity and human rights laws for immigration purposes and to promote their illegal “schools” spreading hate.

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        • JohnC says:

          .. and the complete disrespect for our government and rules by non-whites is a major reason they are being hit worse by this ‘racist virus’.
          But nobody dare say it. Instead they are another set of pawns to paint as victims by the Left – who I now consider to be a quarter deliberate hypocrites and three-quarters well-meaning-gullible-idiots who believe the propaganda they are fed by the MSM.

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  7. StewGreen says:

    Just looked at NewsNight tweets
    What a hatey bubbleworld audience they have cultivated.
    In the replies there are maybe 200, 300 people just tweeting hate at people who are not in the lockdown loving lefty gang.

    It’s like the Labour Students Society common room or something.

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  8. Thatcherrevolutionary says:

    Tommorow will either see the US tip over the abyss or be pulled back from it.
    Unfortunately I’m not holding out too much hope.

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  9. Richard Pinder says:

    March for Trump https://trumpmarch.com/info

    I presume today is the day that the DNI report is released by John Ratcliffe

    Counterfeit US ballots found in Georgia along with Chinese Shipping receipt.
    A shredding company in Cobb County, Georgia was given about 3,000 pounds of ballots to shred. Authorities have come into possession of those materials.

    9k=

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    • taffman says:

      Al Beeb latest…………
      “Georgia Senate election on knife-edge in vote count” Al Beeb latest…………

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    • Scroblene says:

      Decision is due around lunchtime in the UK.

      President Trump received the usual spit of words like’conspiracy’, etc., from the BBC’s US correspondent.

      The nasty comment at the end, was that after President Trump’s take on the proceedings, the final votes from the late counties were usually for the democratic candidate.

      I smell ‘dump’…

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  10. taffman says:

    “England’s third national lockdown has legally come into force, with MPs set to vote retrospectively on it later”.
    Are we moving to a Chinese style Lockdown ?
    We could be facing a double dip in the economy ?

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    • taffman says:

      Al Beeb…………..
      “Analysis: Can lockdown stop the new coronavirus variant?”.
      Who is this guy Professor Neil Ferguson?.

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  11. taffman says:

    “Covid: WHO team investigating virus origins denied entry to China”.
    Now there’s a ‘supplies’.

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    • Foscari says:

      Taff-Why would the Chinese be expected to let the
      WHO team in, to find out how they “manufactured ”
      their biggest ever export? in the end this scientific
      bacterial invention will turn out to be their biggest ever
      earner. And make them the super economic power by
      far in the world.

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  12. JohnC says:

    I’ll make my debut on the new thread with a quote from the BBC about the shooting of Jacob Blake:
    ‘Mr Blake was left paralysed from the waist down after being shot several times in the back as he got into a car where his three children were sitting.’
    The poor man : just trying to get into his car with his children and a coward shot him in the back ?. Outrageous.
    Wrong. He only leant into the car to pick up a knife he kept there for just such occasions and was turning to to stab the policeman behind him.
    The fact his children were there has no bearing on it whatsoever except to try and make him look more innocent. In fact to do that in front of armed police makes the man even more of a scumbag.
    100% typical BBC. Changing the way you describe it changes the whole story. It’s absolutely no different from blatant lies.
    I went into that article expecting to find a BBC lie and there it was. Right at the top along with a lovely ‘family man’ picture. It’s ridiculous : it now happens in every single story where they have their own agenda.

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  13. taffman says:

    How long has Bo Jo and his ‘Sage’ advisors got to ? ?

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  14. taffman says:

    “Pharmacies have offered to carry out vaccinations”.
    The concern is, will the government take it up?

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  15. Darcy3 says:

    Are the left demanding a “peoples’ vote” for the USA ?

    Thought not.

    The biggest scandal in USA history and not a whimper from the left or the media who had sooo much to say about a Brexit vote and when Trump was elected.

    A bit like the silence over racially aggravated industrial scale rape of children in the UK by muslim gangs in every area of the UK.

    Conspiracy or what ?

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  16. taffman says:

    The Battle of Britain has begun.
    The nation needs a new Churchill .

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  17. Darcy3 says:

    Here we go….

    Tensions ERUPT as thousands protest in Washington DC against ‘stolen’ US election
    TENSIONS are high in Washington DC where thousands of Donald Trump supporters are protesting against what they claim was a “rigged” election.

    https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1380226/Donald-Trump-news-US-election-protest-Washington-DC-Joe-Biden-ont

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  18. Guest Who says:

    Hurdee hur hur.

    BBC moaning Emole.

    ***

    Shocked to be Europe’s vaccination stragglers

    In a proudly well-organised country, with a well-funded health service, the first Dutch nationals will receive their coronavirus jabs on Wednesday – 10 days after their European neighbours and nearly a month after the UK. The Dutch government has come in for stinging criticism. One former public health director, Roel Coutinho, warned the country’s “shameful” vaccination strategy was “going to cost lives”. During an emergency debate in parliament, opposition politicians called the approach “chaotic and confusing”. “Striking mismanagement by government,” was the assessment of Tim, a doctor in general practice. “Embarrassing,” lamented Arjen Joosse, an oncologist.

    Read full analysis >

    Anna Holligan
    BBC News, The Hague

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  19. Darcy3 says:

    Interesting…

    5 Reasons to Avoid the January 6 Pro-Trump Marches in DC

    https://www.washingtonian.com/2021/01/04/5-reasons-to-avoid-the-january-6-pro-trump-marches-in-dc/

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    • JohnC says:

      The first thing I do these days is check the twitter of whoever wrote articles like this.
      They are always on there and they always have a string of anti-Trump tweets so long, I give up checking after a couple of pages.

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  20. The WestWyvern says:

    Toady programme R4′ 07.15am.

    A guest is on discussing covid, deaths and the like….

    ‘People in hospital are burdening the health service’

    Prof. Graham Medely.

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    • Fedup2 says:

      West
      I see – also – that the lethargy / incompetence in getting vaccination up and running is already becoming an MSM theme – and I hope it gets stronger .

      Comparisons with the military level roll out in Israel is already being made. Perhaps when Israel finishes their country in a couple of weeks time or so we could hire their vaccination staff and get it done here – including on Sundays .

      You see – Sunday is my test . If they still take Sunday off this government – for me – will be toast – this one won’t be a blame the NHS job . This is directly at the door of Nut Nuts husband .

      In a previous life I’ve sat in policy forming rooms where stuff like training schemes are discussed – and guess what – every one chucks in the risk averse kitchen sink . Then they say – how long will training take ? And before long – let’s have another meeting in a week to discuss it . I can feel that happening here ….

      …meanwhile stocks of vaccine are building up – the London standard says there are 9? Million ready to go … yet where is the energy .?

      Yes – I know – it’s bad to be angry at 740am when this post is written but facing another day of not being able to go out and do stuff is not going to be easy this time .

      This site is going to be busy – and I’m not concerned – as moderator – if the BBC is only one element of what’s going on and wrong .

      But just think – we could be like this until BST returns ….

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      • The WestWyvern says:

        Fed, concurr. I have to find the enthusiasm to walk from one room to anther to enable ‘work from home” with the prospect of an essential trip to the shop later and an hour of excercise.. I remember the pictures back in the eighties from Russia, the lines of people stretching round the block waiting for no loaves of bread..

        I’m surprised (or not) at the dissenting voices on 5dead this AM, a lot calling in and moaning about the approach, or lack of, for the roll out. I sense people are getting testy.

        The BBC are of course using it for their own ends, but I’m inclined to agree to a point.

        There are many organisations out there that can facilitate the jabs and if HMG is seen to rest on their laurels because it’s a Sunday, as the economy and livelhoods fail, there will be a reckoning.

        I wonder what the idiots in parliament will discuss today….

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      • JohnC says:

        Mobilise the Army and set up mass vaccination centres in every major Town immediately.
        This is a national emergency and any captialist profiteering or snowflake complaints and politically motivated interference by the Left needs to be bypassed.

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        • Fedup2 says:

          John
          I hope the Tory front bench is going to get a serious neck ache today being told – in no uncertain terms – that their futures are on the line if they don’t get a grip .

          Last night I put figures here for the numbers of vets capable of giving injections – this morning the pharmacists – boots et al have described being sent away despite doing flu jabs every year ….. a ready supply of trained and experienced people .

          I know what nut nut husband is going to say – it is a case of

          ‘Understandable frustration ‘ …

          Which might be the bit where I might need a new £600 iPad screen ……

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        • Nibor says:

          Sorry John this predicament cant be that serious otherwise the government would stop bogus asylum seekers landing on our shores .
          I`m going to ignore or circumnavigate this lockdown until the PTB get serious about the drip drip invasion .

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  21. The WestWyvern says:

    We may have to enforce restrictions NEXT winter…… Chris Whitless, the medical turtle, threw that nugget out there yesterday….

    We, may, have to ensure that you, Chris, are no longer employed if that’s the case.

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  22. The WestWyvern says:

    Radio 5 Dead now, Nicky Campbell interviewing, Ellie Cannon GP.

    A real time listen from a health professional that should provide all the proof, if anymore were needed as to the need for root and branch reform of the not fit for purpose NHS.

    Of course there is a dig at HMG and probably deserved given Handcocks recent slimefests, but shock horror, Campbell on the BBC, praises the Israeli approach to rolling out the vaccine.

    The GP says the situation is very different in UK, the logistic supply chain is clunky and the supply rate of the vaccine is questionable….

    Get the bloody army involved then, if the NHS can’t do it….

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    • Nibor says:

      Is the German company DHL still doing NHS Logistics ?

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    • BRISSLES says:

      …”ll the proof, if anymore were needed as to the need for root and branch reform of the not fit for purpose NHS.”

      Wasn’t it Laurence Fox not so long ago who said exactly the same thing, and got slaughtered for it ??

      Having worked in the NHS for a few years, its the truth ! When Matrons were given the boot, Managers brought in, and degree nursing was established, that’s when the decline began. Who can now distinguish between a nurse and cleaner ? Nurses used to have a ‘standard’ of appearance with tidy hair and clean appearance – oh and they were NEVER clinically obese either.

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  23. Fedup2 says:

    Sounds like the NHS can’t deliver but no one has the courage to take it away from them and give it to someone who can ….

    Public opinion will not let this situation last very long . Could get really nasty – really quickly ….

    On Israel – let’s not be sceptical and assume that it is not an excellent propaganda operation to promote the country … but if they achieved 146000 immunisations on Monday their country is going to be done pretty soon ….

    …. I’ve an idea . Send someone from the UK to see how it’s done . I’ve checked . Virgin have a flight to tel Aviv on Thursday – think it takes about 6 hours? – economy cost £180 each way …..

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  24. Guest Who says:

    Can’t wait for Nadiya’s response.

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    • JohnC says:

      These people need a good shake while someone shouts ‘Wake Up You Idiot’ at them.
      What always makes me laugh though is how I read a completely pathetic snowflake article like that on The Guardian then at the end they beg me for money to keep up the good work.

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Ha ha – she’s been watching too many KFC adverts ….

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    • JimS says:

      I remember when chicken, roasted, was a once a year treat, part of my white privileged heritage.

      The first time I had fried chicken probably came from a shop with a white ‘plantation owner’ as its logo.

      Whose ‘culture’ is being appropriated?

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  25. Fedup2 says:

    Non BBC – but a couple of examples of poor covid government .

    1 . Car MOT . In the first lockdown they gave another 6months / year extension …..this time none – so I have to go out next week and have a stranger get into my car to MoT it . How does that work in one of the highest R rate boroughs in London .

    2. DVLA – last week they decided my driving licence needs ‘renewing ‘ – so I have to a main post office to present myself . It won’t work online . I’ve emailed the DVLA and am waiting for an answer – can I go out or not ?

    Perhaps minor stuff – but an indicator of how poor the state is even after a year of COVID . ….

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    • Up2snuff says:

      Fed, I think you can ask the DVLA to use your Home Office (Passport) details. You may need to provide the DVLA with a personal Information Waiver to that effect: “I hereby authorise you to use my personal confidential information held by the Passport Agency ….. .”

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  26. Guest Who says:

    Here we go.

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    • Guest Who says:

      And there he went.

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      • Fedup2 says:

        Guest Who
        Does that mean the ‘parents ‘ of primary school kids will be moaning about not getting a copy of the Koran for BBC RE?

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        • DYKEVISIONS says:

          Talking of the Koran; this is from 3 years ago at a Oldham Council meeting, I hope things have ‘improved’ since then….

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      • JohnC says:

        ‘kids can watch programming’
        How apt. They must be programmed from as earlier an age as possible. And the virus must not be allowed to stop it.

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        • Sluff says:

          Notwithstanding the woke content, I am reliably informed the CBBC stuff is very much at the lowest common denominator end and offers little or nothing to able pupils.

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    • Nibor says:

      How about Rethink Fairness for the ordinary British man or woman ?

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  27. Sluff says:

    A good footnote in the D mail today.

    The BBC were all over the red top journalists in the early 2010s about their misdemeanors (though hardly any ultimately were convicted of anything).

    But the Met are now investigating Martin Bashir about the Panorama interview with Diana, and guess what? BBC coverage of this is ….errrr……..shall we say minimalistic?

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  28. Sluff says:

    OT but in all the coverage about the vaccine roll out I have not heard anyone ask about the following.

    If with a fair wind they give a first jab to 12 million people at 2 million a week by February half term, when will they get their second jabs?

    Does this mean no-one else will get even a first jab until at least April? Are they going to increase capacity to 4 million a week to cover second jabs for some and first jabs for the rest? I am guessing not, for if they have then surely Boris would have been first to mention such an expansion.

    Or does it mean the government are planning not to give second jabs at all?

    Maybe its not OT. Maybe at least one person from the BBC’s vast army of ‘investigative journalists’ should be asking about this very very obvious issue.

    But then, arts graduates have probably never heard of anything vaguely scientific such as Critical Path Analysis.

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    • BRISSLES says:

      I blame Tony Blair.

      He suggested this insane method of vaccination just before Christmas. Why does this bloke ever get the oxygen of publicity.

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      • Darcy3 says:

        There are many who would ask why he is allowed oxygen

        I could not possiblty comment of course

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  29. AsISeeIt says:

    8 out of 10 cat owners will tell you their moggies will gobble up anything you put in their bowl.

    Meanwhile this morning The Daily Mirror shrieks: ‘Corona Crisis One in 50 infected …& rising’ (mixing letters with numerics in their headline there) The appropriately named Metro shouts out a stat for the capital: ‘One in 30 has virus in London’ – you can’t really blame the journos. They know nothing and question nothing and these are the scary numbers our officials pass them.

    Think of these government virus statistics as working in the opposite direction as their official inflation figures. You know from personal observation that the cost of your purchases rises by 5% here and 10% there. And yet it suits the government to downplay the inflation numbers and so they employ their ever-changing arcane price index trickery to convince you that inflation is below 2%. Take a peak into your notional weekly shopping basket and you’ll discover the government reckons you have all kinds of odd things in there, such as a pint of malt whisky or an i-pad – in fact anything stable or falling in price at any given time will do to massage the figures downward.

    The Guardian today echoes the messaging and the reason for it: ‘Tough curbs “for months” as 1 in 50 now have virus’ – and as usual I have to take the Guardian to task for those pesky ‘scare quotes’. But to the point, come off it Guardian, let’s have less of your hedging, it WILL be months, there’s no doubt about it now.

    ‘Restrictions may still be needed next winter as millions now have virus’ – the Telegraph there quoting the dead-eyed ghoul in the attic Chris Whitty. And if one stops to think about the logic here – extreme novel precautions and restrictions of liberty in order to deal with an average recurring annual corona virus surge, then there’s really no reason to ever relax said restrictions.

    Whenever faced with overbearing self-righteous health and safety messaging, particularly from the preachy BBC, my mind goes back to Top of the Pops 1979. (bear with me)

    The Sex Pistols were at number 3 (three) in the UK charts with their version of Eddie Cochran’s C’mon Everybody. (the ’50s teen rebellion lyrics of which appealed to the punk rockers of the ’70s but read as rather archaic and quaint these days). I digress, mid-digression. Anyway, as one might imagine the Pistols were not present in BBC studios to mime along to their hit on the occasion I’m recalling. Instead, Top of the Pops ran with what was still the relatively novel concept of a promotional film that substituted for the band playing their single – put simply – a video. Oh dear, puckish punk rocker Sid Vicious riding a powerful motor bike at high speed… without a crash helmet.

    Queue the BBC’s Jimmy Savile: “As it ‘appens, boys and girls… do be care-ful. Always wear your safety hel-met… (yodel, yodel)”

    You’ll recall Jimmy Savile… “clunk click, every trip”

    Underage sex, every trick.

    So mind who it is who is giving you the safety advice and what hidden motives they may be concealing.

    The Sun has: ‘Grim toll but jab for 1 in 4 Brits over 80’ – stop with the statistics, please. Kudos, however, to the Sun for consistency with their numerics.

    The ‘i’ has a feature on a famous Hancock who doesn’t bring me out in hives – actress Sheila Hancock. Former wife of John Thaw famous as Jack Regan the no nonsense un-PC cop of The Sweeney fame: ‘I got fed up with all the sexist jokes Sheila Hancock on working at 87’ – you seem to have done alright for yourself, luv. If it’s really that bad, and I were you, I’d jack it in.

    ‘Ex-teachers “should check pupil grades”‘ – suggests the Times. That could be asking for trouble. I can just envisage my former teachers assessing the performance of today’s school kids. That idea will get a “B” for effort and big fat “D” for likelihood to pass from our current crop of teachers and their unions.

    How times do change… ‘Party snub payout’ reports the Times: ‘A mother who was not invited to a work Christmas party because she was on maternity leave could receive more than £8,000 after winning a discrimation case’ – perhaps she was a bit of a bore and a killjoy and not much of a team player? Or perhaps since she was off work on paid maternity leave caring for her newborn child in the run up to its first Christmas, they assumed she wasn’t up for partying? Or, perhaps due to the first two considerations, they just forgot her invite.

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Asiseeit – your digression digression lost me – but your final paragraph about not being invited to certain things must have PPI crew fantasising about adverts for compensation for not being invited to things —
      —-can you imagine a court case where you are trying to evidence that you are the ‘life and soul ‘ of the party when in fact you are a social embarrassment ? ( ‘one ‘ – not you asiseeit ) …

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    • harry142857 says:

      The current situation reminds of another Pistols classic.

      Frigging I’m The Rigging

      Aawai skirmis, listen’t this one
      It was on the good ship Venus
      By Christ, ya shoulda seen us
      The figurehead was a whore in bed

      And the mast, a mammoth penis
      The Captain of this lugger
      He was a dirty bugger
      He wasn’t fit to shovel s***

      From one place to another
      Friggin’ in the riggin’
      Friggin’ in the riggin’
      Friggin’ in the riggin’

      There was f*** all else to do
      Captain’s name was Morgan
      By Christ, he was a gorgon
      Ten times a day sweet tunes he’d play

      With his f***in’ organ
      The first mate’s name was Cooper
      By Christ, he was a trooper
      He jerked and jerked until he worked

      Himself into a stupor
      Friggin’ in the riggin’
      Friggin’ in the riggin’
      Friggin’ in the riggin’

      There was f*** all else to do

      The second mate was Andy
      By Christ, he had a dandy
      Till they crushed his cock on a jagged rock
      For cumming in the brandy

      The cabin boy was Flipper
      He was a f***in’ nipper
      He stuffed his ass with broken glass
      And circumcised the skipper

      Friggin’ in the riggin’
      Friggin’ in the riggin’
      Friggin’ in the riggin’
      There was f*** all else to do

      Friggin’ in the riggin’
      Friggin’ in the riggin’
      Friggin’ in the riggin’
      There was f*** all else to do

      The Captain’s wife was Mabel
      To f***, she wasn’t able
      So the dirty s***s, they nailed her tits
      Across the barroom table

      The Captain had a daughter
      Who fell in deep sea water
      And by her squeals we knew the eels
      Had found her sexual quarters

      Friggin’ in the riggin’
      Friggin’ in the riggin’
      Friggin’ in the riggin’
      There was f***all else to do
      Friggin’ in the riggin’
      Friggin’ in the riggin’
      Friggin’ in the riggin’
      There was f*** all else to do
      Friggin’ in the riggin’
      Friggin’ in the riggin’
      Friggin’ in the riggin’
      There was f*** all else to do

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    • Up2snuff says:

      AISI, I note that the i newspaper is still claiming to be Newspaper of the Year six days into the New Year
      – and –
      is re-running a photo of ‘supposedly’ the first person to be innoculated with the Oxford Covid vaccine.

      As an unqualified medical person, I think there are at least three medical errors in that photograph. Can anyone spot them?

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    • JohnC says:

      Always remember that the BBC knew all about Savile – as did the MSM – and did nothing. It took legal complaints after his death to open the can of worms. A reporter once asked Wogan when the BBC were going to ‘out’ Savile and Wogan said ‘That’s your job isn’t it ?’.
      And always remember that the BBC management is still stuffed with exactly the same type of people. The agenda is everything. Organisations that old and big simply cannot change – and I have seen absolutely no sign that it might have. If anything, they are even worse since they got spanked over Brexit and Trump.
      One of the many reasons I laugh at the ‘Why you can trust the BBC’ button.

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    • StewGreen says:

      This claim that “one in 50 people have Covid”

      yesterday I calculated that th street level is 5 to 25 people in 10,000
      Mainly due to the way that most cases are in the NHS

      The starting point was that in my area the Positive count is 0.2% vs a national average of 0.5%

      We know 2 things
      – There is an undercount co many asymptomatic people don’t get tested
      – There is an overcount effect from false positives

      What they have done is said for every positive test non tested people are positive
      I find that difficult to believe , when testing is so ubiquitous.
      So they taken the measure 0.5% and called it as 2%
      (ie one in fifty)

      Now if 2% of population get Covid every 10 days
      that makes it 20% in 100 days
      That could not sustain for long cos infection would keep meeting dead ends a they hit already immune people.

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      • Mustapha Sheikup al-Beebi says:

        Here’s an interesting piece about testing, from a Facebook post by an acquaintance of mine:

        “From Lockdown Sceptics:

        Stop Press: Several readers have got in touch to point out that the reason for the alarming case data Boris cited in his announcement – 80,000 on December 29th alone – is because the UK is testing more people than any other European country. One reader has calculated that we’re currently testing between six and 14 times more people every day than France, Italy and Germany. Another drew our attention to the number of “cases” in the UK for January 4th as recorded on Worldometers, which dwarfed that of France, Italy and Germany, even though the number of deaths is quite similar:

        UK – 58,784 cases/407 deaths
        France – 4,022 cases/378 deaths
        Italy – 10,800 cases/348 deaths
        Germany – 8,039 cases/527 deaths

        “Strange,” says the reader. “Over 10 times more cases than France with a similar number of deaths. Germany had over 100 more deaths, but 50,000 fewer cases.”

        The explanation? Matt Hancock and his obsession with administering as many PCR tests each day as possible.”

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        • StewGreen says:

          No currently Fr/Germany/UK have about 1 death in 30 cases
          but that is a coincidence cos both the other countries have had flat case counts even though deaths were rising in Germany and falling in France.

          That 8k cases day in Germany seem to be an anomaly
          They seem to not work a lot of days so you need to look at the smoothed data
          Their cases has been flat at about 20K/day since start of November
          yet their deaths have not followed a similar pattern
          They rose constantly in a line to 700/day averages
          So currently 1 death in 33 cases

          France has had a peak in cases
          Then by start of Dec cases were flat at 10K/day
          Yet deaths fell gradually from 500 to 315/day
          So currently 1 death in 32 cases

          Italy a different pattern
          an n curve falling from a 35K peak (Nov 19) down to 13K, but then waving back up to 16K/day
          Death n curve peaking (Dec 4) and gradual decline to Dec 26,
          but then stops following cases and starts to rise t0 480
          So currently 1 death in 42 cases

          The UK cases is massively steep rise to 60K/day from a Dec 4th trough of 14K
          with deaths echoing that with a 20 day delay
          510 to 676 echoing (14k to 20K cases)
          So 1 death in 27 cases to 1 in 29 cases

          Something going on in Sweden their actual lockdown looks to have had a strong effect ( or coincidence)
          From Dec 17 peak deaths have fallen
          (you can’t say how much cos Sweden death data is very delayed
          echoing cases of 6000/day to 4700/day
          When Jan 13th data is confirmed that’ll be about the peak death day I guess. It might even be a flat line of 80/day for 3 weeks

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      • StewGreen says:

        typo “What they have done is said for every positive test, 3 non tested people are positive”

        That 1 in 50 claim makes people think that if there are 100 people in the supermarket 2 are positive

        whereas I reckon
        It’s much smaller than that like 1 in 2,000
        So for practical purposes there won’t be anyone in the entire supermarket
        and even if there was with the time and spacing, you’d never get a viral dose.

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  30. Dobyns says:

    Not to be covered by al beeb

    The CCP are sitting there laughing their asses off watching the West playing Whack-A-Mole with the new variants coming out of the Wuhan labs.

    https://www.cnbc.com/2021/01/05/south-africa-covid-variant-appears-to-obviate-antibody-drugs-dr-scott-gottlieb-says.html?utm_content=Intl&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook#Echobox=1609901240

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  31. Sluff says:

    I read the other day that China are prioritising working age people for the vaccine roll out.
    And we know China has supplied billions of items of PPE and no doubt made a handsome profit.

    Meanwhile……in the UK we prioritise non-producing over 80s and insist on selling the Oxford Astra Zeneca vaccine worldwide on a non-profit basis.

    Do you think there may be a slight clue here as to the relative economic performance of the two countries?

    Still, I’m sure all the hundreds of thousands of newly unemployed struggling to pay the bills will be feeling quite happy with their lot as they will at least be able to feel suitably virtuous.

    Woke snowflakes, such as those constantly feted by the BBC, leave me feeling sick to the core.

       29 likes

  32. Jeff says:

    I’m trying to understand where we are with covid, regarding education. It isn’t easy, it’s certainly not for the faint hearted and I’ve stopped with the BBC and Sky completely, so perhaps some kind soul can help me out…

    I’m sure that all last week, up until the weekend, Gavin Williamson (Private Pike/Frank Spencer) was assuring us that kids would be returning to schools some time this week. No problem.

    There seemed to be a mood change by Sunday when our hapless, hopeless and spineless PM lumbered on to The Marr Show and started blathering about “tougher times.” He had his hang-dog expression on so you knew were were in trouble.
    It was after this predictably depressing performance that I decided to end any relationship I still had with the BBC. There’s only so much mental torture a bloke can take…

    By Monday it seemed as though there would be a delay in getting Johnny and Jenny through the school gates, but I’m now informed (Talk Radio) that it could be put off until September! FFS have you ever heard anything like it?

    Surely to God this isn’t possible. Even this gutless and incompetent and cretinous regime wouldn’t be capable of such an absolute about face.

    Oh come on Jeff, this is Boris…

       31 likes

    • Northern Dreamer says:

      Don’t worry, those poor hard working teachers will now have to spend a few months working out what exam grades the students would have got if they had done the coursework and done the exams. Great news! I predict a superb set of exam ‘results’, not withstanding the fact that many students will leave school or go on to F.E. without having done any of the work.
      ‘Our fantastic teachers have been brilliant’ quipped Mr Johnson ‘I am going to unfreeze their pay rise’

      I tell you what, scrap schools, sack loads of teachers, sack union agitators, let’s just predict all the grades all the time, the outcomes are marvellous. MSM seem happy enough to go along with this ‘exam’ system.

         32 likes

      • G says:

        ND,
        Where’s Mystic Meg when you need her?

           7 likes

        • BRISSLES says:

          Cant be worrying about kids and education, these problems, like climate change and single use plastic, – (which my generation are not responsible for,) will still be around after I’m dead and gone. We are where we are, but I am sick of all the tv ‘critics’ saying we should do this, we should do that, – everyone’s a bloody expert !

             21 likes

        • Northern Voter says:

          Spending her lottery winnings, you didn’t expect her to tell you the real numbers did you?

             1 likes

  33. StewGreen says:

    Audio : Dec 31st Steve Bannon warned that Youtube takes down stations like TalkRadio

    + Andre Walker reveals that YouTube had issued TR warnings before

    I now agree with Sargon, the takedown could have been from Youtubes AI algorithm wordscanning a clip picking it up as having too many signs eg mentions of Piers Corbyn etc.
    and automatically suspending the video
    ..And with the station already having 2 strikes
    banning automatically happened.

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  34. Guest Who says:

    https://wattsupwiththat.com/2021/01/06/bbc-urges-nyt-to-correct-misleading-coronavirus-article/

    The notion of the BBC, which can be trusted to deliberately mislead on purpose almost as much as it accidentally misinforms through ineptitude, now taking it upon itself to police globally the politicised propaganda organ corrupted by the ex BBC DG would be funny if not tragic.

       23 likes

  35. Zelazek says:

    Had to laugh at Lenny Henry on Today this morning. No, not because he was funny. It was because he claimed he often felt lonely because in the luvvie circles in which he moves there are not many people who look like him. But just seconds earlier, a black professor of Media Diversity had said that despite being only 13% of the population, BAMEs secured 23% of the acting roles available today. So, if anything, BAMEs are massively over-represented and it is whites who should be feeling lonely in TV and theatreland. But what does Lenny Henry expect? This is Britain, not Africa. I suggest he solves his loneliness problem by returning to his ancestral home.

       58 likes

    • Darcy3 says:

      Must have felt lonely at home as well when he married a white women, poor thing

         38 likes

    • Rob in Cheshire says:

      Sir Lenworth seems to have done all right in this country. On the other hand, I find when I am watching the TV commercials I feel a bit lonely because there do not seem to be many people like me. It seems as if white people do not buy furniture. Why might that be? Has Sir Lenworth got any ideas?

         17 likes

  36. StewGreen says:

    A retweet has sat at the top of FarmingToday’s feed for 3 days

    It’s from their top man @DimitriHoutart
    ( bio : BBC Rural Affairs, Food & Environment Editor / BBC Rural Affairs Champion
    @BBCFoodProg @BBCFarmingToday @CostingTheEarth
    39 Ways to Save the Planet & more.)

    This is who he deliberately tagged (the button below the picture) in the tweet picture

    The presenters then
    Royal Geographical Society
    @ErikSolheim
    Christiana Figueres
    Friends of the Earth
    The Earthshot Prize
    Jonathon Porritt
    Forum for the Future
    @GretaThunberg
    ed gillespie
    @GeorgeMonbiot

    ie 9 Green Activist PR accounts
    Is that impartial journalism or ACTIVISM ?

       29 likes

  37. Darcy3 says:

    There are plenty of real farmers available for comment

    http://viz.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/Screen-Shot-2014-11-17-at-11.05.29.png

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  38. digg says:

    The BBC having a gripe about top exec salaries.

    FTSE 100 chief executives ‘earn average salary within 3 days’

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-55551314

    Of course no mention of golden boys Lineker, Rashford or Hamilton!

       31 likes

  39. Darcy3 says:

    The usual suspects, again (filming and laughing)

    Limping man chases Jewish parents and children on their way to synagogue as he waves huge stick and shouts: ‘You’re lucky my legs don’t work’

    Man spotted carrying a large stick on Dunsmure Road in Stamford Hill, London
    Appeared to be targeting group of Jewish worshippers on way to synagogue
    Civilian group the Shomrim are now appealing for witness to come forward

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9117939/Limping-man-chases-Jewish-parents-children-way-synagogue.html

    Figures from the Community Security Trust reveal there was 1,805 antisemitic incidents recorded across the UK in 2019, a rise of over 1,000 since 2010.

    Shall we all have a good chuckle whilst we watch some imams and muslim kids getting attacked ?

    The hypocrisy and double standards of our enrichers is quite astounding

       18 likes

  40. Guest Who says:

    Seems ‘Maaaaate’ knows things are spiralling down badly…

    Hope Marianna vetted his work.

       6 likes

  41. vlad says:

    Shock horror. Alex Belfield links high crime rates to ‘diversity’, among other factors.

    Arrest that man forthwith, for speaking the truth. That is one crime that will not be tolerated.

       14 likes

  42. Darcy3 says:

    racism in action by….black people against the Jewish community:

    “What baffles me is how an insular group of religious nuts who do not want to be part of the wider Hackney community, in many cases, don’t work or contribute to our society, get away with the things they do.”

    https://www.hackneyhive.co.uk/index/2017/01/wild-west-stamford-hill-attack-on-black-traffic-warden-is-just-tip-of-a-large-ice-berg/

    In other parts of this online rag:

    “George Floyd:
    His life was snuffed out as casually as you step on a cockroach. I don’t think Minnesota has the death penalty, but it’s my hope some righteous brothers, will get former police officer Derek Chauvin and snuff him out. I hope he suffers the same pain George Floyd did. I can trust my […]”

    “White privilege and racism is alive amongst genteel white middle class Stoke Newington folks. I first experienced it 7/8 years ago when this blog was at its height and I’ll touch on that another day.”

    “UPDATE: TRIAL IS DONE AND DUSTED AND I’M BACK IN MY HOME. HOWEVER MY FIGHT CONTINUES WITH THE VERY RACIST HACKNEY POLICE WHO CHOSE TO BELIVE A PATHOLOGICAL LYING WHITE WOMAN. I WAS DEFENDING MYSELF AGAINST PATHOLOGICAL LYING WHITE HEFERS LIKE AMANDA STRAUGHAN AND WILL CONTINUE TO DO SO. DO NOT TRUST THE RACIST”

       12 likes

    • JohnC says:

      If he was white, he would be arrested for hate crimes.
      My disgust at the racism and hypocrisy around all of this knows no bounds.

         20 likes

  43. The WestWyvern says:

    Anyone else hear the comments of the outgoing PM and his opposite number captain bloody obvious in the house of thieves?

    I am in despair of these clowns.

    Now a piece on the Met Polis promising a tighter clampdown on those breaking the lockdown.

    When did we give these f*****s our consent to turn the UK into North Korea?

       33 likes

  44. The WestWyvern says:

    By the way, the legislation keep us under house arrest until the end of March and according to Doris it will be a slow reemergence….

       13 likes

  45. Fedup2 says:

    So the new chairman of the BBC is dickie sharp – former boss of the current chancellor at Goldman Sachs dodgy bank – Tory donor – …..
    … let’s hope he has already upset the BBC staff just by existing …..

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  46. Right Angle says:

    On the previous thread, I posted a link to Guido Fawkes’ eagle-eyed spotting of the sudden death of the BBC’s Brexit live blog:

    https://order-order.com/2021/01/04/bbc-abandons-live-brexit-blog-for-lack-of-bad-news/

    Oh, he isn’t the only one who has noticed the Bad, Biased Coverage:

    https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1380374/Brexit-news-bbc-project-fear-ports-dover-calais-trade-deal-boris-johnson

    “So much for Armageddon! BBC told to APOLOGISE to Britons for Dover Brexit fearmongering
    THE BBC should apologise for its Project Fear predictions with claims of massive disruption at Dover and Calais having proved to be unfounded, a Tory MP has said.”

    Whaddya know, a Conservative MP who is not a Remainer! This is what Daniel Kawczynski, the MP for Shrewsbury and Atcham, said:

    “I call on Director General of BBC to apologise for the poor and unprofessional way they have dealt with this situation.
    “We all know the BBC aid the last remaining major Remain body in Britain but they should not be using their power and influence to try to influence government negotiations with a foreign power.”

    BBC, yes, you at the back of the class, pay attention!

       33 likes

    • Fedup2 says:

      Right Angle
      Beeboids being concerned about drug supply – there was a report of brexit causing a shortage of cannabis oil for some single mother and her epileptic kid … I really didn’t realise there are so many of them – or is it someone with a direct line to the BBC newsroom ?

      They’ll be gleefully reporting the shortage of something or other over coming months – poor luvvies ….they don’t get that it was about more than trade ….

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  47. Fedup2 says:

    A copy and paste from the DT – Alison Pearson – on the year so far for the BBC –

    ‘ Only seven days into 2021 and already we have a strong contender for least surprising survey result of the year. Nearly half of Britons think that the BBC no longer represents their values. Asked how good the corporation was at reflecting their point of view, 48 per cent said “fairly bad” or “very bad”, against 29 per cent who said “fairly well”.

    And, lo, there came the Beeb’s coverage of the final stages of Brexit. Children’s choirs across the land performed popular British songs from Bobby Shafto to All You Need is Love. Newsnight’s Emily Maitlis donned Geri Halliwell’s iconic Union Jack dress and giggled: “Hey, maybe things outside the EU won’t be so bad after all.” The spectacular New Year’s Eve fireworks over the Thames featured well-loved faces and landmarks to convey a sense of national unity and dawning possibility as we became a sovereign nation once again…

    Well, a licence fee-payer can dream, can’t she? Obviously, none of the above appeared on our screens, although they may well have proved popular. More popular, certainly, than the Black Lives Matter fist that featured in Sadiq Khan’s taxpayer-funded firework extravaganza. Instead, Eeyorish remainers, oops, sorry, reporters, went looking for evidence that, despite our surprisingly good trade deal, there would be major hold-ups at Dover. Imagine the poor dears’ distress when freight was seen to be moving smoothly and there were no queues on the M20 to gloat over.

    Of this extremely promising start, we heard nothing. If there had been any problems, I guarantee camera crews would have been camped out at the roadside 24/7 interviewing peed-off Pierres.

    Nor did the BBC deign to put Boris’s New Year message on its website. Lucky he’s not the national leader or anything.

    It isn’t long since Tim Davie, the BBC’s new director-general, said he wanted to bring in “a better balance of satirical targets, rather than constantly aiming jokes at the Tories”. Perhaps Tim should have a word with Nish Kumar.

    On Graham Norton’s New Year’s Eve special, the “comedian” called Nigel Farage “a sack of meat brought to life by a witch’s curse”, adding: “Now we have finally completed Brexit, I predict we will have a taste for leaving things and will vote to leave more stuff, starting with the continent of Europe, then the United Nations and finally the Earth.”

    Funny to think that “Busy Lizzie” Truss, the International Trade Secretary, has managed to secure 63 trade deals in two years. The UK seems to to be joining more than leaving.

    Here’s my new year reduction: if BBC glums continue to fight a bitter rearguard action against Brexit (and, incidentally, against a big chunk of its audience), we know who will have the last laugh. And it won’t be Frankie Boyle.”

    ENDs

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    • Emmanuel Goldstein says:

      Fed.
      I was hoping somebody would copy and paste that.
      I’m too tight to subscribe to the DT (or any others)
      There are some commentators on ‘our’ side although thinly spread and Alison is one of us.
      Thanks.

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      • Fedup2 says:

        EG – it goes against the grain spending £4 a month on any newspaper but in current circumstances they have an arrested audience ….

        As an aside…. I had to go the my dentist today ( private) and asked her , as she gave me the pain injection – whether she had been approached to do vaccinations …..

        …. guess what ? She volunteered – but they checked and saw she was on some other NHS scheme so the answer in “no” ….

        She told me that she did try and help out with the ‘track and trace ‘ scheme ‘ mess – but the information was often plain wrong or so out of date to be embarrassing ….

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  48. vlad says:

    One angry commentator clearly spells out the election fraud in America.

    The steal and the spineless RINOs who allowed it, putting career, profit and a quiet life above principle – in the face of overwhelming evidence of massive criminal wrongdoing.

    Transcript here: https://www.churchmilitant.com/video/episode/vortex-how-it-happened

       16 likes

  49. StewGreen says:

    Libmob school bullies, jeering at TalkRadio

       12 likes

    • G.W.F. says:

      Talk Radio restored. It is time for the MSM to join together in the final push against Trump. Welcome back Julia HB, all hands to the rubbishing of Trump.

         5 likes

    • Darcy3 says:

      The brain dead…………

      ” Talking to Good Morning Britain to discuss Brexit , the Mancunian was debating Britain’s exit from the European Union.

      The Remainer found himself up against Wetherspoons chief Tim Martin, a Brexiteer, during an interview Kate Garraway and Ben Shepherd.

      Terry caused a stir on Twitter this week by polling his followers if a company has to sack workers because of a weakened pound, they should lay off workers who voted for Brexit first.

      Repeating the controversial position this morning, Mr Martin responded: “Nonsense. Terry, you’re talking absolute nonsense.”

      “You are to economics what Tiger Woods is to monogamy, you have no understanding at all.”

         27 likes

    • StewGreen says:

      Someone calls out the LBC tech guy over his sneering at his competition TalkRadio

      See how he can’t reply but has to walk away

         7 likes

    • JohnC says:

      Says terry – who is too stupid to realise just how full of hate he is himself.

         3 likes

  50. Doobster78 says:

    So, looks the Dems will win the Georgia senate election.

    No surprise there then. Despite Trump urging voters to turn out. Why would they ?

    Dems and the MSM now got EXACTLY what they want. A completely dis-enfranchised group of voters who quite rightly now think what’s the bloody point when the vote is clearly rigged, and what’s more, not only clearly rigged but clearly covered up by big tech and the MSM.

    What a sad state of affairs …and to think the US and UK invade countries and sacrifice hundreds of US and British lives in doing so, for the sake of , they say, of giving democracy to those countries.

    Trump was our last hope … the Dems will ruin the USA and no doubt it will cascade over here.

    Sad , sad stuff.

    Trump won that election …. by a country mile and no one, ever, will convince me otherwise

       56 likes

    • digg says:

      Yes Doob it has been nothing more than a coup. However all over the Globe coups have turned out to be poison for the participants.

      I await the population of the USA waking up and screaming for revenge when they witness the sheer scale of the crime and the extent of the bloody mess that will inevitably follow in it’s wake.

      This particular criminal coup was so filthy and extensive that sooner or later it will unravel, it will only take a few right-minded people in the know to reveal what happened with irrefutable evidence to trigger a revolt and witch-hunt.

      I firmly believe we will witness a lot of high-rollers being dragged into the courts including some of the top movers and shakers in Politics, Big Tech and of course the corrupt MSM.

      I believe that Soros’s cash was the engine for this and the events and changes to come in the USA will bear this out.

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