273 Responses to Start the Week Thread 29th March 2021

  1. Philip_2 says:

    BBC moving to Manchester has made a big impact locally!
    A new child sexual exploitation unit in Manchester, England, has been launched after years of failure on so-called “grooming” rape gangs.

    Who would have thought it possible? Lessons will be learned (except in the BBC, get ignored). Manchester has its ‘unique’ sexual attractions for the BBC which is why they moved there. Its cheap (of course), life is cheap there, lots of drugs too.



  2. digg says:

    Ok off to bed now, hope I wake up in the real World tomorrow instead of this madhouse!


  3. pugnazious says:

    You have to laugh at the BBC ‘s diversity’ drive….who presents ‘Science in the Time of Covid-19’….what could be, and is, a very political programme?….

    ‘Sonia Priya Sodha is a British columnist working for The Guardian and The Observer. She was formerly a senior adviser to Ed Miliband.’

    The programme discussion…


    ‘We’ve seen evidence exaggerated and undermined, falsified, and flawed. Scientists arguing in public over areas of policy that have reached into all of our lives in an unprecedented way. There has never been so much “science”. But the pandemic has seen science politicised and polarised in ways some of us could never imagine. ‘

    It’s a very confused and contradictory programme….one minute telling us we must believe the scientists and experts, the next telling us the whole point of science is to disagree and to question and challenge the science….Sodha proclaiming we have all become experts now as our knowledge of the pandemic and virus grows with all the available ‘science’ out there.

    So we’ve got a highly politicised left-wing columnist who hates Boris posing as a disinterested commentator on a very controversial area spouting a very one-sided view of events. How’s that impartiality going BBC?

    And then there’s this from 2019…ironically rebroadcast now as the government crushes our right to protest and arbitrarily interns you in your own home at the stroke of a pen, even trying to stop you hugging and bride and grooms kissing on their wedding day….and all used as cover to give themselves more and more power as the ‘Great Reset’ is put stealthily in place…

    ‘Freedom of Information
    The Battles That Won Our Freedoms

    In this episode, Phil Tinline asks Professor David Vincent to trace the history of the struggle against Britain’s culture of secrecy, culminating in a series of causes celebres in the 1980s, particularly the sensational acquittal of senior civil servant, Clive Ponting.’

    The BBC consistently either ignores the ‘Great Reset’ or tries to rubbish the idea that it is happening…

    ‘We start with the revival of the baseless conspiracy theory, known as the ‘Great Reset’, which claims a group of world leaders orchestrated the pandemic to take control of the global economy. ‘

    Trouble is all the evidence points to a massive usurption of power and a ‘resetting’ of the global economy along with a resetting of how people work, live and perceive the world….we are all being trained to accept the new normal…trained to accept lockdowns as a permanent tool of government conveniently wheeled out to ‘protect’ us but in fact to stop us interfering in government, and their friends, plans….climate change, mass immigration, even more globalisation, mass surveillance, no more cash [digital money means total control and oversight of your spending], world government.

    Way back in May 2020 the BBC’s favourite anti-capitalist, Naomi Klein, noted that the pandemic was being used for a ‘Great Reset’, only she called it something else as the Big Tech companies join forces with government to watch and control us…

    ‘It has taken some time to gel, but something resembling a coherent Pandemic Shock Doctrine is beginning to emerge.

    It’s a future in which our homes are never again exclusively personal spaces but are also, via high-speed digital connectivity, our schools, our doctor’s offices, our gyms, and, if determined by the state, our jails.

    It’s a future in which our every move, our every word, our every relationship is trackable, traceable, and data-mineable by unprecedented collaborations between government and tech giants.

    Now, against a harrowing backdrop of mass death, it is being sold to us on the dubious promise that these technologies are the only possible way to pandemic-proof our lives, the indispensable keys to keeping ourselves and our loved ones safe.

    Odd how the BBC, that great bastion of liberal progressive views, so readily supports and promotes draconian and dystopian measures and stays completely quiet as our freedoms are stolen….and steadfastly ignores the cries in the wilderness of its once heroines like Klein and Lady Hale as they criticise the governments’ pandemic responses.

    Still…we’ve got Russell Brand…

    And Peter Hitchens who condemns those who stand idly by… ‘The chattering classes did nothing whatsoever to defend liberty’….


    • StewGreen says:

      @Pug : The Battles That Won Our Freedoms
      The graphic for that series is clenched fist covering the the whole screen.
      … Radio4 looking very socialist.

      That BBC comment on the Great Reset comes from their November article

      libmob’s MO is to seek to dismiss a claim
      usually by using strawman arguments.

      Here with the Great Reset there is a group of people that say
      #1 That a group of green globalists have got together to make a plan to exploit the aftermath of Covid.

      Others go one step further and say
      #2 The Great Reset is those globalists and Bill Gates actually creating Covid in order to exploit it.

      What the libmob do is strawman by saying that #2, is what people are talking about.
      I suspect posts asserting #2, might well be made by libmob trying to lead people down a rabbit hole


  4. Sluff says:

    Here’s a sort of historic version of bias.
    The BBC are reporting that sleepy Joe is asking state governors to tighten up their coronavirus controls, as rates are increasing.
    This is exactly as it should be. Health care is devolved to the several states under the constitution. Responsibility is at state level. No problem.

    So why was the BBC so keen to blame President Trump for supposed coronavirus failings yet miraculously just a few weeks later they are happy to accept it is a state level issue and absolve sleepy Joe of responsibility.

    Well, I think readers will figure out why in about 5 microseconds.


    • pugnazious says:

      Irony is that Merkel is now trying to centralise control and take over from the states….remember when the BBC eulogised the German response[not so much now as deaths mount rapidly] and told us how it was all down to the states being able to run their own reactions….of course pretty much rubbish….it was pure luck that the Germans dodged the first wave.


  5. pugnazious says:


    ‘Sixty million doses to be finished at GlaxoSmithKline’s Barnard Castle factory, avoiding need for transportation to Europe ‘

    So that’s what Cummngs was really up to…organising our life-saving vaccine industry.


    • G.W.F. says:

      I drew attention to this at the time, as it had been reported by a local newspaper but ignored by the MSM. Throughout 2020 negotiations were underway with Glaxo


  6. Dobyns says:

    You’ll never get this kind of analysis on al beeb, indeed you’ll get just the opposite …



  7. JohnC says:

    More anti-Asian racism in the USA by the lowest kind of scum you can imagine.
    And here’s another one:
    Both from yesterday.
    None of the articles mention the racist attackers are black and as The Guardian informed us all in one of my previous posts on this topic, there is no evidence that it is black people doing it.
    Of course you won’t see this on the BBC.
    I am getting to the point where I detest these people. They live in a world they have created for themselves in their safe little bubbles.


  8. Up2snuff says:

    Framing Today – keeping the anti-Brexit narrative going

    Heather Stevens (hope I got name & spelling right) did a report that had a Brexit and Pandemic theme to it focusing on an agri-business that imported day old chicks from France. It raised several considerable doubts in the mind of this listener:
    1. Why hadn’t the business owner/director prepared for Brexit as they had had four years notice that it would be happening?
    2. Why hadn’t the business sourced UK produced day old chicks?
    3. Why had they taken out a Pandemic loan when knowing they hadn’t prepared for Brexit and their business might face interrupted supplies?
    4. Why had they not bothered to do the paperwork for a consignment of chicks that they had paid for but were unable to collect because paperwork was incomplete, they hadn’t done it?
    5. Why had the business been turning customers away?

    Blaming Brexit BBC and your one special selected contributor of whom serious competency questions need to be asked just will not do. It raises serious competency questions over the BBC and Framing Today.


    • Scroblene says:

      Up2, it’s usual for the awful bbbc to seek out the most gormless, negative ‘subjects’, and squeal inanities at them from their position of total ignorance, and hope that anybody bothering to listen will think they’re clever.

      Getting billions for being inadequate is normal for anyone in W1A.


      • Up2snuff says:

        Scrobie, too true. I do wonder, like others on here, how the BBC find these ‘specimens’? Perhaps they ‘phone the Beeb to have a moan and the Producer thinks, while in BBC anti-Brexit mode, ‘There’s an item for us there’? I did immediately wonder whether the BBC had been famously spoofed – again – as the contributor’s statements added up to ?,????,???,???!


        • Guest Who says:

          Like flies and what flies like, the two attract.

          OT, but here is the Indy Moaning Emole, that could have been written by the BBC All Boys Are Rapists Editor…

          Opportunities to root out the problem of sexual abuse in schools have been missed since a report called for “urgent” action on the issue five years ago, MPs have warned. Labour leader Sir Keir Starmer on Monday added his voice to calls for an inquiry, after a website gathered testimony from more than 9,000 young people, at both independent and state schools, about treatment that amounted to sexual harassment or abuse, and in some cases rape. But former members of the House of Commons Women and Equalities Committee said that in 2016 they produced a report warning that the government had no “coherent plan” for dealing with “deeply troubling” levels of sexual harassment and violence taking place between children and teenagers at schools in England. The government responded the following year with new guidance for schools on how to deal with incidents of alleged sexual abuse by one student on another. But former committee member Jess Phillips – now safeguarding spokesperson on Sir Keir’s front bench – said that ministers had failed to engage with schools to ensure that the guidance was followed.


          If Jess and Surkeer are on the bandwagon, the BBC cannot be far behind.


          • G says:


            “Opportunities to root out the problem of sexual abuse in schools have been missed …..”

            I haven’t heard the one about, ‘cutting their dicks off’ yet. Only a matter of time in this climate.


  9. Up2snuff says:

    TOADY Watch #1 – in which the BBC face the pain of Beijing Biden ‘doing a Trump’

    Schadenfreude Dial needle wangs into the border between yellow and orange zones as the BBC convey the news that China Joe has blotted his copybook already, so soon.

    The US has not signed an agreement on World Pandemic Co-operation for future Pandemics. (Interesting note: future Pandemics will happen – how do ‘world leaders’ know that? Hhmmnnn.) In addition, China Joe is imposing tariffs on UK exports/US imports of …. china and other ceramics.

    Oh dear.

    BBC contributor is a spokeswoman for Ceramics Manufacturers Association who ums and ers and seems desperately uncertain about who or what she is representing. Perhaps it was too early in the morning to be talking to Dominic?

    Oh dear, oh dear.


    • Rob in Cheshire says:

      In case the BBC hasn’t noticed, Joe “I’m Irish” Biden hates Britain and doesn’t care who knows it.

      President Trump was half British and loved us, and the BBC and the rest of the leftist MSM just poured hatred on him for four years. The failed Conservatives could not pull their finger out to draft a trade deal with the USA when President Trump was up for it. We won’t get one from Biden, that’s for sure.


  10. Fedup2 says:

    Starting a nice spring day with good news – one BBC channel is to become an ‘archive ‘ to save money – and not to produce ‘new content ‘. Ladies and Gents – that channel is BBC 4 …..

    …. it is vital that the BBC cuts down on what it makes and puts taxpayers ‘ money into ‘management ‘ – moving people ‘up north ‘ and golden good byes …
    ……….. we need to get to a position where a single high profile programme – such as the one about police corruption – is the one thing the BBC uses to show it still has value – and when that programme is ‘panned ‘ then our case for ending aunty beeb strengthens ….

    I speak in ignorance of the ‘call of duty ‘ show as I am heavily rationing again …


    • Rob in Cheshire says:

      BBC4 is the only half decent channel they have. It therefore makes perfect sense that it is going to be mothballed. I imagine that white people watch it. The horror, the horror.

      Now, on BBC1, let’s all see if a bunch of Z list “celebrities” can guess who owns a house…


  11. Guest Who says:

    BBC local radio


    ???? A plaque in memory of a Worcester university student who drowned in the River Severn has been vandalised. ????

    This plaque – for 18-year-old Tom Jones – has only been at Sabrina Bridge for just over two weeks.

    We’ll be talking to Tom’s mum on tomorrow’s breakfast show.


    The drowning is very sad. The rest is pure BBC.

    I am more interested to the vandalism involving arson afflicting the area.


  12. Guest Who says:

    Beyond the bizarre framing, is this true?


  13. Fedup2 says:

    Not BBC
    Nut Nut has been in her husbands ‘ ear again . This time ‘a world pandemic treaty ‘ – administered by the UN WHO .

    If ever there was a plan to ensure lessons were ignored , detection and response was too slow , the blame game fully embraced- there it is in one go . ( for further guidance – contact the EU vaccine plan )….

    PS I’d even give them some tips

    1 close all borders
    2 stop air travel
    3 quarantine the source areas
    4 identify the bug
    5 develop a test
    6 develop a vaccine

    Then move on to day 2


  14. Thoughtful says:

    I see there is yet another whiney wimmins movement claiming every single girl at public school has been either raped or sexually assaulted.

    As the left takes all its cues from the USA, here comes another one which is the ‘rape culture’ wimmin have alleged on US university campuses where every single one claims some kind of violation and which because of clearly crying wolf no one there takes seriously, alas that the cowardly useless incompetent Tories do.

    There are claims that this is a direct result of on line porn but I seriously doubt that. back in the day we had ‘video nasties’ that were supposedly causing all kinds of harm too soceity, and we had violent video games causing rising violence. None of it was true.

    The real cause I would claim is yet again the most evil ideology ever conceived – Socialism.

    Back in the day boys were taught to respect and protect women, to hold doors open for them and to give up their seats for them. We all know what happened with certain women angrily attacking men who did the chivalrous thing.

    Schools were largely single sex only, but the Left pushed hard for mixed classes on the basis that it was better.

    These women screached about ekwalitee and claimed they were just the same as man and didn’t want any special treatment. Their activists in the public sector erased the old virtues men had towards women, and made the world a worse place as a result.

    For a while it worked for them, as the old virtues instilled in men still lingered, but as a new generation came to adulthood, things changed and they didn,t have the same resecpt for women, who were now competition and allegedly their equals.

    So today it is even worse as children are taught that gender doesn’t even exist girls aren’t girls and boys are no longer boys, and that if you can claim some kind of victim status you are a better person.

    There may well be an issue with sexual assaults in schools, but I never heard of a single case when I was at school.

    As has also been pointed out to me this morning, back then Britain did not have the issue of mass migration and multi culti issues were the rape of women who are not from the same cultural background is seen as perfectly acceptable.

    So lets not blame the boys for looking at photos of naked women on their computer screens, lets place the blame where the Left can’t accept it, and it provably lies firmly with them.


    • Guest Who says:

      Has the bbc weighed in yet?

      Saw it a while ago out of the Cougar Comic Sunday Times, but is struggling for traction.

      Rammed with claims and allegations and not much else.

      Kicked off by an activist LGBT me me me and bandawagonned by a ‘tv blonde’…. with friends.


    • Fedup2 says:

      I guess the MSM has an image of posh white boys forcibly deflowering poor innocent girls … but if they discover feral coloured gangs using rape as initiation ceremonies in London schools then attention might wane to the level of Muslim paedophile paki racist rape gangs ….


  15. G says:

    “One third of people failed to turn up for 1,750 vaccination appointments on Monday in one part of Wales”.

    What’s up with these people………………..

    Perhaps they would miss whingeing about ‘lockdowns’.



    • taffman says:

      There are a lot of foreign students down in Swansea. Most of the taffmen up here are jumping at the opportunity of getting the jab?


  16. Guest Who says:


    Along with the number engaging. AT ALL.

    Sopel was paid to be part of this universally derided BBC attempt to claw back a reputation for anything other than lying through their ideological teeth?


    • G says:


      Our World’s Most Trusted Broadcaster did not check how many children were in, “wards”. But I’ll wager they did check the communist/Socialist credentials of the so-called, “Matron”. That’s good enough for the BBC.


  17. AsISeeIt says:

    The day I take fitness advice from the flabby Boris

    And the ‘family sofa‘- the very symbol of multicultural mixed-race Britain

    This morning we wake to the news that deadly international pandemics behave in a rather similar way to London’s proverbial red buses – you wait 700 years since the Black Death for Corona to come along…

    Speaking of those red buses (the responsibility of Mayor Khan) on which, even as we speak, no one is supposed to be travelling: ‘London faces new taxes to fund TfL gap‘ (Telegraph) – mind the gap, as they like to say.

    …but after an interminable wait, you can expect a whole bunch of pandemics to arrive in quick succession, one after the other: ‘Another pandemic or health crisis is a matter of “not if, but when”, they say.‘ – so says the BBC quoting ‘Leaders’ – oh yes… ‘including French President Emmanuel Macron and German Chancellor Angela Merkel (who) write in newspapers round the world that Covid has posed the biggest challenge since World War Two.’

    Panic now, and avoid the rush – as they say.

    BBC: ‘And the pandemic has shown that “nobody is safe until everyone is safe”.’

    I doubt the BBC will rush to fact check that statement too closely.

    It’s worth checking to see what the globalist play is here – ‘The signatories, who include the head of the World Health Organization, Dr Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus, say: “At that time, following the devastation of two world wars, political leaders came together to forge the multilateral system.

    “The aims were clear: To bring countries together, to dispel the temptations of isolationism and nationalism, and to address the challenges that could only be achieved together in the spirit of solidarity and co-operation – namely peace, prosperity, health and security.”

    The leaders say that in the same spirit, countries must now “be better prepared to predict, prevent, detect, assess and effectively respond to pandemics in a highly co-ordinated fashion”.

    As Nigel Farage warned us – the EU’s response to every crisis was always to call for more EU.

    So what about Britain where Boris led Brexit so as to respond to the public demand for local democratic independence and a return to decision-making here at home? Take back control and all that…?

    Johnson, Macron and Merkel propose global accord akin to that forged after World War Two‘ (Telegraph) – can we please stop with the WW2 references. If we keep plugging that tired old analogy then one could go on to claim Merkel is the aggressor and Macron the collaborator.

    So Boris is all for a big global Covid-flavoured EU, is he?

    Haven’t we already got a handle on this covid problem over here at least?

    BBC: ‘Also at the briefing, the PM said the UK did not know “exactly how strong” its defences against another wave of Covid would be despite its “impressive” vaccine rollout.

    Despite this, despite that, always with the despite!

    Sounds as though our big vax push was a bit of a waste, then?

    Whilst sucking up to the pro-Brussels globalist crowd, Boris learns a trick from Blair and speaks out of both sides of his mouth at once. With a bulldogish whistle for the little people: ‘We don’t need EU! 60m new jabs made in Britian‘ (Daily Express)

    George Orwell, in his great parody of soviet rule, the fable Animal Farm, characterises the wasteful Five Year Plan projects that so impoverished the Russian people as the construction of windmills.

    Spark Notes provides the quote: ‘After surveying the ground, Snowball declared that this was just the place for a windmill, which could be made to operate a dynamo and supply the farm with electrical power [to] light the stalls and warm them in winter . . . [The animals] listened in astonishment while Snowball conjured up pictures of fantastic machines which would do their work for them while they grazed at their ease in the fields or improved their minds with reading and conversation.

    Now, let’s think, who is it who is so keen on windmills?

    The love rat Prime Minister. You call that integrity‘ (Daily Mirror)

    And on a ‘family sofa‘ as well – the very symbol of multicultural mixed-race Britain – how dare he!

    Smashing Get fit in the sun, says tennis-mad PM‘ (appropriately enough, The Sun) – the day that I take fitness advice from the flabby Boris is the day you can call me Poldark (I do have the highwayman’s mask): ‘Bad news for you single girls Poldark has got married’

    Well, I’m well acquainted with a Cornish pasty.

    As pictured on the frontpage of the Sun.

    Showbiz exclusive He’s all mine… Aiden with new wife and, left as hunky Poldark

    Sounds as though that smuggler’s galleon has sailed.


    • Fedup2 says:

      Isnt it strange how people read history differently ?

      Who ‘ came together ‘ after WW2?

      The world polarised between reds and non reds – only MAD and luck prevented more world war …..

      So that dodgy template is to be applied to pandemics – where national self interest will be given up for the world ( yeah ask the chinese ) .


  18. G says:


    “Hong Kong: China passes ‘patriot’ electoral reforms”.


    To control every aspect of the voting system.

    “When these changes were announced a few weeks ago, they drew criticism internationally.” – was it those same voices who condemned the fraudulent US election last November and current similar moves by the commie in the White House to secure Democrat votes in future elections…………

    ‘Swings and ………..”


  19. Thoughtful says:

    I see Breitbart has reported that far left father of Woke French philosopher Michel Foucault was a homosexual paedophile rapist, and that the leftist media who knew all about this kept it hidden from the public.



  20. Guest Who says:

    Media doing their bit with the sistas.


  21. Guest Who says:

    Found the biggest joke in media to platform her latest bandwagon attempt.


    • Fedup2 says:

      Jess is right – and they all eat too much red meat as well …..

      … and as someone on the Twitter responses asked- any chance of seeing the grooming gang report ? …..
      Since we are talking about the use of sexual violence against children – ? Or is that ‘off subject ‘?


    • Dobyns says:

      “Inappropriate jokes to a woman should be part of every school’s disciplinary proceedings”

      So if I’m in a school disciplinary proceeding I have to tell ‘inappropriate’ jokes to a woman?

      Seems a bit odd to me but I guess you just have to go with the flow.


    • taffman says:

      Another own goal by Labour.


  22. Foscari says:

    I am trying to be logical and trying to understand why so
    many more of our ethnic community are not having the
    jab. Some from the ultra orthodox Jewish community believe
    that god has sent a pestilence . And if he wants them to die , so be it. Is there some kind of similar attitude amongst others?
    Are a small amount of folk refusing the vaccine dead, or have
    left the country and there is some kind of loop hole in the
    benefit system ?
    Of course one must not be forced to take the vaccine. But by
    the end of the day those who refuse it must bare the
    consequences , such as not being able to travel abroad.


  23. Fedup2 says:

    I don’t think that the government really wants to talk about the amount of immigration , benefits and general personation in the UK – by white EU types yet alone the third world coloured …
    But they are willing to pay coloured ‘comedians ‘ to entreat their tribe to get vaccinated when everyone knows it’s a tick box job – I suspect a fair number here don’t speak English unless it is the word ‘benefits ‘.

    Same with the census which is well past reality of big cities and their ‘multi generational ‘ flops ….


  24. StewGreen says:

    TalkRadio (Sky) news
    “The government has been challenged to prove the benefit of Brexit, by stepping in to save Liberty steel
    ..yesterday the government turned down a rescue loan
    but here’s Anna Soubrey”



  25. StewGreen says:

    China using coal power sells electricity at less than half what Australia does.
    Some of that coal comes from Australia
    ..yet woke Australia is forbidding itself from using the same coal, and instead buys CHINESE BUILT wind farms.
    Bolt Video report


    • Garry Lavin says:

      Ha ha ha.


      • Fedup2 says:

        I always get a warm feeling knowing that China is opening a coal powered power station about once a week? for the coming years …..
        Maybe Attenborough could do a grand tour of them ….?


        • Up2snuff says:

          Fed, I think that ‘number’ is something of ‘an urban myth’. Paul Homewood on Not A Lot of People Know That (NaLoPKT) has probably checked the true statistics.


    • StewGreen says:

      Youtube version


    • digg says:

      ah! good old OZ where men were men once upon a time… then the Shiela’s took over while the men were sitting around drinking tinnies. And now it’s a pitiful basket case.


  26. Kaiser says:

    the bbc doom mongering again

    not only does it selectively choose who can be heard


    but which of their words it wishes to publish



  27. vlad says:

    2 teenage girls killed an Uber Eats driver in DC during a carjacking.

    The BBC has zero interest in the case – I wonder why?

    (Contrast with the endless coverage of George Floyd – I wonder why?)



  28. BRISSLES says:

    I wonder how many of those grubby protestors complaining outside the Batley school have been jabbed. (and funny how this religion decrees washing 5 times a day, yet walk past a crowd and you don’t need to be ‘up wind’)

    Its astonishing that these non-whites risk their lives to get here, accept every benefit going as if its ‘their right’, then risk the possibility of dying when here by not having the vaccination, and THEN moan about themselves as BAMEs being at high risk and why isn’t the Government doing anything !


  29. TrickCyclist says:

    Stop me if you’ve heard this one before. . .

    I was watching a YT video by Kvon Comedy last night about U.S. lesbian footballer Megan Rapinoe.
    She spoke at the White House this week about equal pay, but at the 2019 Women’s World Cup said ‘I’m not going to the ****ing White House.’ This despite DJT historically having a far more sympathetic view of gays than Biden.
    Just posting this because I liked the wag in the video’s comments who said that LGBTQ will soon stand for ‘Let’s Get Biden To Quit.’


    • Kaiser says:

      equal pay with whom exactly

      why do footballers, earn more than rugby players , and cricketers

      why do some footballers earn more than other footballers in the same team winning the same trophies

      why does someone at accrington earn less than someone at manchester united.

      why does a tennis player earn more than a badminton player or table tennis player

      to all but most head up their a**e idiot, the answer to these questions are self evident


      • TrickCyclist says:

        I remember there was an American cyclist in the late 80s/early 90s called Inga Thompson. She was way above most of her competitors in the U.S. but admitted in a magazine interview that on a men’s team she would only be able to function as a low level ‘domestique’ (the riders who collect water bottles from the team car, protect their leaders from the wind etc).
        Such realism and level-headedness seems to have virtually disappeared today!


  30. JohnC says:

    Just spent another frustrating 15 minutes on google looking to see why a) so many black people get COVID and b) why they won’t get the vaccine.
    My theory (after a lot of thought and reading for weeks now) is a) because they don’t give a sh!t about any rules white people and their law make so they will see their friends as and when they want to and b) Because they think it is a trick to entrap them in some way and they don’t want anything to do with whitey which might shine a light on them and what they do.
    Try finding that on the internet. Trying to find anything specific is like trying catch a bar of soap in the bath. They usually end up saying it’s because white people are racist after some extremely convoluted reasoning. One actually blamed Trump.


    • Old Goat says:

      Use Duck Duck Go, instead – the difference in results may surprise you.


    • StewGreen says:

      Some people get Covid, some don’t
      Almost zero die, just a tiny portion of the very oldest normally.
      The very fact that lefty activists simply divide the world into white vs BAME shows that they see the world by skin colour
      instead of treating people as individuals.
      ie they are racist.
      In this country there is no evidence any ethnicity has natural immunity.

      If you have a work team of 50 year olds who is most at risk of dying the skinny ones or the walruses ?
      Likewise cultural practice doesn’t always go with ethnicity
      – strict Jewish cults with big weddings hit hard
      .. other types of Jews hardly hit etc.


      • Fedup2 says:

        Interesting piece in the telegraph about a lawyer who took his family out when the government were subsidising restaurants .

        He got the Chinese virus and died . His wife wonders how he got it , as might be expected , the blame lies elsewhere .

        As some one of the right I believe in personal judgement , responsibility and choice …. sad business ….


    • BRISSLES says:

      Totally agree John. Saw 2 young black cyclists being told by a black doctor that they should take the vaccine, and asked why they wouldn’t be taking it.

      Oh dear, they could probably talk at length about the latest rap music, but their vacant stares and ‘yeah’ responses summed up all the conceptions that ‘whitey’ have about the uneducated in the BAME community.

      I know that a good percentage of generally white youths have a problem with basic articulation, but we are now in the 3rd generation of those landing here on Windrush, and yet many black youths seem incapable of speaking in paragraphs, despite having access to better education. Why ?


      • Tabs says:

        Black schoolkids in the UK are nothing like black schoolkids in Jamaica. In Jamaica they are more disciplined, smartly dressed, do more homework and get better grades than the UK.

        Black UK gang culture has been allowed to grow and now I think UK schools have given up on them. There is less poverty in the UK than Jamaica so I would guess the problem is decades of leftwing progressive nonsense “supporting blacks” but actually making things a lot worse for them – just like the BBC are currently doing.


        • Up2snuff says:

          Agreed, Tabs. I have a West Indian friend who is a teacher, a Head. Bad behaviour not tolerated.

          There was a really good Book at Bedtime a while back. It was based in Barbados and was by a Bajan writer whose name escapes me. No doubt a search of the BBC website will reveal nothing.


    • Kaiser says:

      death per million stats


      top 11 european then the USA

      looking at these bare stats it would appear europeans are most at risk


    • Tabs says:

      I reckon it is like Grenfell Tower. So many illegal BAME immigrants in the UK they don’t want to be caught.


  31. StewGreen says:

    Belfield’s look at the Tabloids today
    – Nigel Farage joins advisory board of Dutch tree planting corp
    (Well that is genuinely green instead of mickey mouse solar/wind gimmicks)
    – Men are the danger, nope look at this Leicester woman just got 17 years for stabbing her partner
    – The Muppets go woke … the muppets were always multiple colours none white or black ..so why introduce 2 black race baity characters
    – 150 Convicted Serving ???? Coppers ????‍♀️ @ MET Police Right Now ????‍♂️
    (He never says if that is just driving offences, it does matter the seriousness of the conviction)
    – “Toxic” Teachers ????‍???? Boys Can’t Be Boys ????‍♂️ This Is SO Wrong
    banning saying “man up” etc.

    – Boris scraps BAME .. cos it was always boxticking in Favour of blacks
    … Chinese and East Asians are rarely included

    – Hugs should be allowed
    – Katie Price … now claims she is traumatised from being raped in a park aged 7 ..why did she omit that from her auto-biographies ?


    • JohnC says:

      It would be hilarious if the two new Muppet characters were modelled straight from the jam jar.
      Heads would literally explode on twitter.


  32. G says:

    Looks as if the commie Dems in the US may finally get their wish and severely restrict gun ownership. All by attrition. Wear the gun owners down by legally required paper chases, harassment and much additional and unnecessary expense.

    Meanwhile in the UK the relentless political urge to emasculate the population still further and in so doing, leave them totally defenceless and additionally criminally vulnerable continues apace. No longer will a private space be, private.

    What is an offensive weapon in the UK? Defined in S.1 of the Prevention of Crime Act 1953 and S.139 of the Criminal Justice Act 1988. Both, as one would expect, apply “in a public place”. It would be easier and more accurate to simply now think of an offensive weapon as being any object capable of being used or adapted for that purpose. Anything, item or object then. But, so you would think, it is ok to possess that same ‘offensive weapon’ on private property i.e. your home? Perhaps a bayonet from service. But you’d be wrong. Very wrong. Coming to the population shortly:

    “Any person who possesses a weapon to which this section applies in private is guilty of an offence ….” – The Offensive Weapons Act 2019. That’s just ‘possession’ never mind about using that ‘offensive weapon’. But, you can surrender the offensive weapon:
    ““(12A) An order under this section which has the effect that possession in private of a weapon of a particular description is, or is to become, an offence under
    subsection (1A) may make provision—
    (a) enabling arrangements to be made for the surrender of weapons of
    that description;
    (b) as to the procedure to be followed in relation to the surrender of such weapons;
    (c) for the payment of compensation in respect of weapons surrendered in accordance with the arrangements;
    (d) as to the requirements that must be met by a person making a claim for compensation;
    (e) as to the procedure to be followed in respect of a claim and for the determination of a claim;
    (f) enabling a person to exercise a discretion in determining whether to make a payment in response to a claim and the amount of such a payment.””

    Your trusty poker alongside the fire? Your cricket bat; your diving spear gun? This list goes on.

    But there you have it: S.52 later spells out the next step, the crime of:
    “Offence of threatening with an offensive weapon etc in a private place”

    So, all you hiding a baseball bat under the bed and other items to protect you, your home and family against the burglar or violent home intruder will be breaking the law if you possess and use any item, adapted for use as an offensive weapon. Burglars Charter I’d call it. And, the intruder could invite the police to arrest the house owner/occupier of the burgled property for possession if not use. Clearly our biased police will love it as will the Government. Almost the last nail in the coffin.

    Being seriously medically vulnerable, I could not raise any physical deterrence to any intruder. Therefore I would be criminally liable if I took up any object and adapted it to protect myself or property. Not just, ‘possession’ of but ‘use’ of as well. The police would arrest me and probably send the burglar home as his offence was just a ‘prank’.

    Communist countries have State Control over their populations. We have ‘legislation’ – exacting down to the millimetre. What’s the difference?

    All reminds me vividly of that corridor in ‘Resident Evil’ that, ‘diced and sliced’ all comers with lasers –

    We are all now, in effect, subject to the whims of the police. They have been ‘armed’ completely with laws to restrain the public one way or another. And they are now exercising that unrestrained power regularly. Tommy (otherwise known as); Alex Belfield et al.


    • TrickCyclist says:

      What kind of world are they trying to create?
      Gun owners in America who discover intruders in their homes have long been advised: “Shoot to kill – so they can’t sue you.”
      That old fellow over here who blasted those gipsy burglars with his shotgun, killing one and wounding the other – if he’d killed both and fed their bodies to his pigs, would he have ever seen the inside of a prison?


      • G says:


        Take a look at S.76 of the Criminal Justice and Immigration Act 2008, “Reasonable force for purposes of self-defence etc.” All down to what the court thinks you believed at the time and whether that it was reasonable to think that way. I have a number of views on S.76 in its entirety and the implications. [Btw, why include ‘Self-defence’ in an, “…..Immigration Act”? Perhaps the legislators were trying to send a subtle message……]

        You refer to the Tony Martin case. Crux thereof is that he shot one in the back as the pair were running for their lives having just encountered an armed occupier who was ready and willing to shoot them. Had they escaped that episode injury free, the question is, in the supporting US gun ownership thinking, would they have happily gone back there to burglarise again? I suggest not. But the US gun rights under the 2nd Amendment is more to do with protecting the citizen against uncontrolled Federal Government abuse. Like now and that’s why the commies want total control.

        I think I have all the case law regarding the self defence cases in the UK from Tony Martin through to a landowner firing a warning shot in the darkness but in the process, ‘unfortunately’ hitting a rustler. To build a picture, all the cases and circumstances must be researched on the facts and outcome. Even then, it will be down to the court.

        Current CPS advice: https://www.cps.gov.uk/sites/default/files/documents/publications/Householders-2018.pdf

        But note, anything that comes to hand.


        • TrickCyclist says:

          In your original post you write,
          ” The police would arrest me and probably send the burglar home as his offence was just a ‘prank’. ”
          If I remember correctly, the dead boy in the Tony Martin case, Fred Barras, was repeatedly described as a ‘lovable rogue,’ despite his many previous convictions.


        • Rob in Cheshire says:


          The gypsies were not “running away” when they were shot. They were in his house, and if Mr Martin had not shot them, would very likely have done him great harm. If they had indeed been “running away” then he would have been wrong to have shot them, but that was not the case.


          • StewGreen says:

            First shot he was at the top of the stairs they were at the bottom.
            Second/third they were fleeing out of the downstairs window
            both got through, but the boy died outside.
            says here


            • G says:


              Para 12 of the Case transcript: “…..Barras was shot in the back and in his legs and Fearon was also shot in both legs. Although both managed to get out of another window, Barras collapsed and died a short distance from the house;”

              Para 19: Having just entered the main building thinking it was a shed, “He (Fearon) was using his torch to try to find a way out when he saw what he thought was a torch, a “load of flashing and I heard Fred shout, ‘He’s got me’ “.

              Perhaps my “running away” could be narrowed so, may I use,
              ‘trying to leave the building’ (which they both did) when they were both shot attempting to carry out that action.

              Case decided on Manslaughter. Self Defence did not apply.

              The transcript of the appeal case: Citation Number [2001] EWCA Crim 2245 can be found on BAILII – http://www.bailii.org


            • G says:

              My reply to Rob above applies. Read the case.

              Forensic evidence based on the layout and shot patterns proved that it was impossible to effectively make the shots from the stairs whether top or bottom. Indeed, some stairs were actually missing.

              Para.26 & 27


              • Rob in Cheshire says:

                It is not in doubt that the two gypsies were in Mr Martin’s house when he shot them. They were not “running away”. That gives the impression they were out of the house and running off. That is not the case.

                Mr Martin was not a trained police marksman, he was a frightened man who had just found an unknown number of invaders in his isolated home. He fired at them in self defence, when they were still in his home. I know what the verdict of the trial was, I just do not accept that it was the right verdict.


    • StewGreen says:

      Last week I saw a US righty commentator cite Biden’s gun crime press conference, and said it showed he was not actually serious about gun control.


  33. Foscari says:

    The EU’S attitude towards Astra Zenica has been an utter
    disgrace . AZ has offered their vaccine to the world
    pro bono and what gratitude do a latter day benevolent
    third reich and its lackey a latter day vichy government show?
    They treat the company with contempt ! And what has the role
    of the BRITISH broadcasting corporation been during this
    chinese pandemic , BRITISH what a perfect example
    of an oxymoron.Thry have been more like “GERMANY CALLING,GERMANY CALLING ” And for those of you who
    don’t get the meaning of this. Look up William Joyce
    in Wikopedia.AZ should get the Nobel Prize
    for humanities !!


  34. Fedup2 says:

    World at one

    A distraught lady brooke announced that an independent inquiry into plod at the wandsworth vigil thing – found that plod had nothing to answer for .

    Cue sobbing girl protesters coming up against plod in nasty mode for the first time .

    I just say – go to a few high profile footy matches and then see what ‘ nasty ‘ looks like …

    Maybe the plod inquiry was done by nasty men – that would explain not getting the right result …

    BBC will do a special programme ‘ look squirrels ‘ to distract from that episode


  35. StewGreen says:

    Simon Webb talks about the Nigerian habit of taking over council departments and using that for corruption
    By coincidence these two have a Nigerian surname.

    TfL worker and her brother admit selling secret test answers to failed mini-cab drivers so they can pass map reading exam to get licence
    Cindy Ughanze, 28, worked in the topographical assessment department for TfL
    Drivers wishing to ferry passengers around London must pass map reading test
    Ughanze worked with brother Jordan, 25, both from Croydon, to target drivers


    • Rob in Cheshire says:

      Import the Third World, and your country eventually becomes part of the Third World. Only deluded leftists could doubt this obvious fact.


  36. fakenewswatcher says:

    Is it just me, or are we seeing -both in the UK and US MSM/TV- an increase in complaints about Caucasians/the complainants group situation (with an implication about Caucasians being responsible)?
    And if so, is this trend accelerating with the Chauvin trial? Will there be a Second Wave of BLM? Exploiting GF’s death worked a treat the first time round, probably putting Biden into the White House- if you consider the failure of the Supreme and other courts to act in the case of the stolen election, probably out of fear of more burning cities and looted shops.
    The beeb lunchtime TV news certainly had no end of complainants.
    And re Chauvin, it seems beeb have already found the man guilty: on R4 last nite, Kumarasami interviewed an American lady Professor who explicitly labelled the case to be “murder”. Kumarasami is a clever fellow: he egged on all his interviewees in a manner in which he said nothing incriminating himself, but you were left in no doubt that he agreed with the Prof. It’s quite easily done, actually.
    I think we’re going to be inundated, frankly.


    • digg says:

      This Country, like many Western societies still has a large group of middle of the road or even a bit right of centre white males.

      This is the main obstacle for those determined to bring about a socialist World Order. So they have to somehow break up or de-power this group.

      As the Nazis did in the 1930’s they go about splitting people up into identifiable sections with the eager assistance of the media then set about encouraging them to hate what they see as the status quo i.e white males. These attack groups include BLM, Antifa, LGBT organisations, Green outfits etc. etc. etc.

      The end game is to remove power from this too white group by breaking them up, labelling them as rapists etc. and marking them as anti-socialist using whatever tools are to hand such as racism, sexual orientation, non-acceptance of the fake issues they create such as climate etc.

      So the jocular easy-going joke-telling white male in the pub with his mates soon becomes the nasty evil corrupted villain and therefore can be silenced or cancelled with the full support of the media.

      Remember these same average joe’s created Brexit for which they will never be forgiven.

      It seems that no-one in our upper chambers of power can understand this is happening and so we see them play the World State players game, endlessly trying to fathom out what to do to avoid accusations of being complicit and thus becoming part of the problem.

      The biggest threat this poses is from our young who are indoctrinated into this mindset from an early age and thus will all grow up to be supporters of this societal shift.

      God help them when they find out just what a monster they have helped to create.

      It won’t take many years of this for the UK to become like Iran, overlorded by zealots with all it’s restrictive laws and practices. See how the kids are going to like them apples!


  37. StewGreen says:

    Cadwalladr taken down Simon Dolan ?

    Two weeks ago an anonymous Twitter account close to Carole Cadwalladr
    ‘The Core is an anonymous Twitter account close to a guy close to Farage’
    …doh Pot kettle black !

    Anyway Carole was the first to celebrate
    Now the same Troll Zoo account is celebrating again


    • StewGreen says:

      People now mention that Dolan had already said he was leaving Twitter
      and staying on Gab
      He hadn’t tweeted in a while, until yesterday when he replied to an account promoting vaccine passports
      “It’s assholes like this that will be first against the wall”
      That is hardly incitement
      It’s more likely he deleted his own account than got banned


  38. Deborah says:

    6pm news on BBC1 on Tuesday. It is obvious that the BBC don’t agree with the conclusion of the report regarding the Police and the demonstrations which were nothing to do with Sarah Everard. The photo of the red haired woman was inevitably used (I think I read only a handful of women were actually arrested) and Mark Easton had to emote how the photo had shocked people as it was tweeted etc around the world. Perhaps the BBC haven’t realised far worse things are happening around the rest of the world eg the abduction of women in Nigeria, beheading of men by ISIS and young women and girls suffering FGM and perhaps more locally the treatment of young women in Rotherham, Blackburn and Oxford. The photo whilst not posed was because of deliberate action by the red haired woman. I don’t suppose she even knew Sarah.

    As usual the BBC knows better than those writing the report using the evidence of activists.


    • Thoughtful says:

      Unfortunately the BBC might be right and the conclusion raises disturbing questions, the answer to which inevitably lead to the fact the Police were in fact in the wrong.

      If you take the view that the Police were wrong arresting the women then that’s it, the Police were wrong.

      However if you follow the conclusion of the report which is unequivocal about the dangers of coronavirus, then what the hell were the Gestapo doing at Batley failing to arrest or fine a single Muslim demonstrator?


    • BRISSLES says:

      Annelise Dodds in the Cameron / Greensill saga, tells us that ‘the public are demanding to know…..’ . Well, I’m not. So for her and everyone else in the media, who think they are speaking for the great unwashed, you don’t speak for me – mate ! I am so not interested in who screws who, who has embezzled what company, and I certainly couldn’t care less about BLM and every other tribe that has a bloody grievance that needs to be aired.


  39. taffman says:

    “Coronavirus: More work needed to rule out lab leak theory says WHO”
    Nothing to see here move on……

    Oh! look at the furry animal over there ……..


  40. Fedup2 says:

    C4 news on vigil – interviewed a mouthy foreigner – a yank – who helped organise it . But admitted not having been there!

    Jon Snow didnt pick her up on this despite the allegations she made

    In fact i think C4 reported it in the same way whatever the outcome of the inquiry .

    But if the mouthy yank woman comes on the TV news quickly switch ovet as she will give you a head ache .


  41. StewGreen says:

    Tonight’s TV
    9 Kay Mellor drama series
    10:45 Being Jewish doco
    11:25 Being Hindu doco

    7 Cooking
    8 Cooking travels with Nadiya

    Channel 4
    8 celebs cooking cakes inc Stacey Dooley

    10:45 ITV On Assignment – Poland is increasingly at odds with the EU laws etc.
    Georgia- with refugees from the old Abkhaz fighting,
    California -whalewatching


  42. StewGreen says:

    Scotland #BBCLeadersDebate
    Instead of each of the 4 speakers having there own name on screen name plaque
    The BBC gave everyone the Labour one
    as if signalling their preferred vote.


  43. StewGreen says:

    Local news The BBC building in Hull has now been designated a cladding risk under the new tighter rules
    Most of the building is flats.


  44. G.W.F. says:

    Terrorist arrested and sentenced. 16 year old lad who called himself Hitler and joined some loony outfit I have never heard of.
    BBC on the ball.



    • AsISeeIt says:

      Half of my mates from junior school ought to be arrested – they were the ones pretending to be the Germans when we played war.


      • TrickCyclist says:

        That’s something you don’t see or hear anymore – a kid holding an imaginary Schmeisser shouting “Er-er-er-er-er!”


        • Rich says:

          That takes me back Trick.

          We used to play one where somebody stood at the top of a grassy slope and the others would run towards them, one at a time, having picked a weapon of their choice to die by. The best death, as judged by the “killer”, would win.

          The person at the top of the slope would pretend to throw a spear, or use a machine-gun, or a grenade, or a flame-thrower, whatever you could think of. Sound effects as above were added and the dramatic death was acted out. Sometimes this came complete with a dive from the back of a Budgie or Tomahawk. Nobody was ever really hurt, the biggest risks to health were the piles of white dog dirt that covered every patch of council estate grass in the 70s and 80s. And of course the skelp from your mother when you went in with your clothes covered in grass stains.

          Maybe it was just us. I suppose this was in Northern Ireland right enough.


          • TrickCyclist says:

            I’d forgotten about white dog poo in the 70s.
            It’s all dried up and blown away now – just like half-decent BBC programmes.


          • taffman says:

            Same here in taffland many summers ago. ????


          • dfhunter says:


            Ahh, that takes be back to my youth in Broxburn, Scotland many moons ago.

            “best man falls” we called it (I preferred the machine-gun death)


            • dfhunter says:

              ps – I had a great Sten gun made from 2 pieces of eco friendly tree branches, but did go home to a roaring coal fire & freezing bed with a hot water bottle (oh happy days)


    • JohnC says:

      It makes me laugh when the BBC blow the story up out of all proportion then we see the sentence is a 12 month intensive referral order – which isn’t even recorded as a criminal conviction.
      Meanwhile the absolutely horrendous Mozambique attack (which the BBC declined to call ‘terrorism’ yet used the word 4 times for this story) was the headline for a few hours, quickly moved to a sub-story then disappeared of the main page completey by the next day.
      When you spend a moment to consider the thought processes of the people who decide on the content of these stories based on their politcial agenda, you realise what truly abhorrent people they are and I wonder just what they might do if they had absolute power.


  45. AsISeeIt says:

    You do the math…

    5.5 jobs lost for every corona death (according to government figures)

    The death count is circa 126,000

    Unemployment between Feb 2020 and Feb 2021 is up 693,000 (this number fewer people in payroll employment)


    Obviously there are variables and we rely on government for the figures, but it’s worth considering. We used to be told a lot about the R rate. Let’s call 5.5 the job mortality rate.


  46. Guest Who says:

    One day Jon Sopel will get the guys in and tell them just how screwed their careers are.


    • Rich says:

      Well, anyone who complains about this dog is obviously racist, aren’t they.

      Perfectly within it’s rights to bite them. Although a less oppressive, supremacist and militaristic name would be much more appropriate, anything other than Major.

      Treyvon or Deshawn or George or something like that maybe.


      • Dobyns says:

        Rich, how about ‘Al Sharpton’

        They’re both despicable curs with a history of lashing out inappropriately.


        • Rich says:


          Maybe. But definitely not “Didier Dogba”, what I believe Clarkson called his black lab.

          What is it about black Labradors that brings out the worst in white Guys?


    • JohnC says:

      My ‘She is not capable of the job she has been given’ alarm rang when I watched Psaki answer that question. It reminded me of the first time I saw Amber Rudd talking on the news.
      A lifetime of fine tuning means it is rarely wrong.


  47. fakenewswatcher says:

    Very little on the MSM news about ‘Islamist’ activities in Mozambique. Apparently they are also active in the Natal Province of South Africa. Some interesting speculation that the insurgents could therefore be targeting Moz. in a pincer movement: from the north (where they struck recently) and from the south (northern Natal/Moz. border area). The objective would be to establish in Moz. what failed in Iraq – an Islamist state.
    This could be unrealistic, but -if it happens- we won’t know before it’s too late.
    MSM focus is on the pandemic, virus mutation, the vaccine, the other vaccine, the vaccine competition, the EU vaccine, the lockdown, the partial lifting of the lockdown, the weather and the lockdown, climate change and the lockdown, the new regulations, the continuation of the old regulations, etc etc Seen more of Whitty and H. Pym than of my own family, just about! (Not to mention our Chief Health spokesperson for the past year, Mr BoJangles himself)
    We’re hardly aware of the quiet collapse of South Africa’s once sophisticated infrastructure and administration, it’s probably too much to expect any analysis of whether vast, crumbling Mozambique is about to fall. This time around, can’t see the chap in the White House launching an invasion. (He seems too busy working for the invasion of his own country; how weird is that? Then again, looking at the Channel and our Border Farce in good weather, I think …not too weird!)


    • Oaknash says:

      Covid plandemic the perfect distraction for a government and broadcaster working towards population dilution and replacement.

      Hey look over there the “R” rate has gone up!


  48. JohnC says:

    Just reading todays version of the Floyd trial by the BBC and as I was reading it, something was just not right.
    Then I realised : it is exactly like the ‘deadly Capitol riots’ farce they held when trying to impeach Trump again.
    Everything is about people giving their emotional feelings at the time of the event. And clearly those selected to tell us are those with their own agenda. Everything they say has nothing whatsoever to do with the charge. The one the BBC really love is from 18 year old Darnella saying “I saw a man terrified, begging for his life. It wasn’t right – he was in pain.”. Darnella is black.
    This is pure emotion and is absolutely irrelevant to the charge. Floyd was being restrained because he was resisting arrest and was full of drugs. Of course he was uncomfortable. The question is simply whether Chauvin killed him deliberately or not.
    It’s absolutely disgusting and I’m amazed they are allowed to get away with this kind of ‘justice’. It’s been creeping up and up for a few years now and managing to get Trump out whilst being able to simply ride roughshod over allegations of cheating by saying claims are false with no evidence to back that up whatsoever have moved the Left on to the next stage. They now know they can feed any narrative they want and suppress opposition using people like the BBC, CNN and the useful idiots on Twitter.
    Exactly how Hitler did it. He didn’t change to be a monster overnight. He did it when he realised he had the power to get away with it. And most of those he used on the way didn’t even realise what was happening until it was too late.