Start the Week Thread 17th May 2021

Sometime this week the BBC is to publish a report by Lord Dyson on its’ conduct over the Princess Diana interview by Martin Bashir . Mr Bashir left the BBC for ‘health reasons ‘ on Friday 14th May. He had held the post of ‘head of religion ‘. Now it transpires that a Panorama documentary about the Diana Interview – due to be broadcast on Monday – has been cancelled . Much more will follow ….

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333 Responses to Start the Week Thread 17th May 2021

  1. Northern Voter says:

    Don’t eat yellow snow. That do for a tip?


    • taffman says:

      Its not the 17th yet ?


    • StewGreen says:

      Catchup links to latest posts on the previous thread
      page 3 started 4:46 PM Sunday
      Topics included the pro-Palestinian protesters being anti-Semitic
      – MSM putting out a false narrative tht the IDF had targetted a media building
      and omitting that ample warning was given
      Doing stunts like pretending they were acidentally pointing a camera at it when the explosion happened

      page 2 started 6pm Saturday
      Topics included the way the BBC covered the pro-Palestinian demo
      but ignored the Freedom protest that targetted the BBC building
      ..maybe cos it frightened them.


      • StewGreen says:

        I should add that the BBC has always been selective about what marches it covers.
        The truth is any march is a PR stunt, not an actual news event.
        And that marches happen every week in London, so the vast majority are not covered.


  2. Doughboy says:

    Blimey, first and at 7pm on a Sunday.

    Where to start this week? So many rich pickings

    Indian scare, no mention from BBC that 10% of those in hospital are not vaccinated despite being eligible, I wonder why?

    Palestinians and their proxy,s still complaining about Israel, I wonder why?

    US border still being overwhelmed, I wonder why?

    Perhaps the BBC could fact check for me


    • Square-Eyed says:

      Bit of a side-issue, but how do the likes of Marianna actually do their fact checking? Do they ring the Guardian hotline, do they consult the BBC Girls’ and Boys’ Bumper Book of Facts or merely stick their finger in the air and see which way the liberal wind is blowing.

      Perhaps Maxi, sorry, maxi could ask Marianna to tell us how it’s done. Do you need a degree in French and Russian, or Journalism maybe or just oodles of talent? I think it would serve the public interest if Marianna gave us the fax straight.


  3. Up2snuff says:

    Well, no chance of two in a row ‘first’ for me but I wonder if the D-G could find himself in a spot of bother over the BBC’s lack of coverage of a significant news event in London?

    Could Timmeh (as some on here refer to him) be another very short-lived D-G? That would be a ‘two in a row’.


  4. Up2snuff says:

    BBC WEB-SITE Watch #1 – questions not answered?

    The BBC are very delinquent in their journalism at times: this woman deserves some sympathy but: why is her husband not working? Perhaps with four incomes they would lose their entitlement to Universal Credit and ‘victimhood’?


  5. theisland says:
    Four men have been arrested on suspicion of racially aggravated public order offences.


  6. Fedup2 says:

    Will anyone ( if charged ) be called Mohamed ? – or will they get the ‘released on bail’ then quietly drop it treatment ?


  7. Nibor says:

    The Food Programme , Radio 4 12.30 pm
    “The place for hungry minds”

    Today’s subject was MonoSodiumGlutamate .

    And racism .*

    I believe the show will be repeated on Thursday morning.

    * Please don’t think that mono sodium glutamate is racist like the Covid virus . It mixes happily with other diverse ingredients in processed foods .


    • Up2snuff says:

      Nibor: ” Please don’t think that mono sodium glutamate is racist like the Covid virus . It mixes happily with other diverse ingredients in processed foods .”

      Ah, but is it vibrant enough ….. ?


  8. NCBBC says:

    ‘Poor old Greta’s now history’: Thunberg overshadowed by rising star Xiye Bastida


  9. theisland says:
    “The presenter warned he may soon find it ‘very, very hard’ to carry on being neutral on political issues”

    What a joke.


    • Rob in Cheshire says:

      Unless Red Andy reveals he was a supporter of Ukip all along, I doubt anyone will find the “reveal” of his oh so hidden political views to be much of a surprise.

      The fact that he thinks we do not know his political views shows how deluded he is. It seems a £400k salary from the BBC does not buy much in the way of self awareness.


  10. theisland says:

    Another joke – it sounds like Mandelson is going to write it.


    • Nibor says:

      On the Labour Battle Bus ?

      There will be shouts of

      Sir Keir we’re kneely there .


  11. Fedup2 says:

    You wanna laugh ?

    Below is a cut and paste from the Telegraph – enjoy

    Andrew Marr has suggested his frustration over BBC impartiality could soon lead him to leave the corporation so he can speak his mind about politics.

    In a frank public admission, the broadcaster predicted that the coming decade would be even more “turbulent” than the last, testing his resolve to stay neutral on major stories.

    The 61-year-old, who still presents the BBC’s flagship political show on Sundays, refused to be drawn on what issues he felt may cause the rift with his employer in future.

    His comments are among his most forthright on his relationship with the corporation, which is going through a period of transition under a new director general, Tim Davie.

    Last year, Mr Marr said he found the impartiality requirements at the BBC “very frustrating” but insisted he did still “really believe” in its work.

    He went further, however, in an interview at Aye Write, Glasgow’s book festival, which was broadcast online on Sunday.

    Asked by his interviewer, the journalist Ruth Wishart, whether he ever felt “a desperate urge to come out of the closet” over his political views, Mr Marr replied: “Yes, absolutely.”

    He refused to elaborate on his personal politics, saying: “I cannot tell you now because I will lose my job.”

    Mr Marr continued: “There are many privileges of working at the BBC, including the size of the audience and all of that, but the biggest single frustration by far is losing your own voice, not being able to speak in your own voice.

    “What I could say safely is that I think we are going to go through a period of politics – the next 10 or 20 years – much more turbulent and much more interesting and testing and challenging then anything we have seen in the last 10 years, which have been big enough.

    “I think it will be very, very hard for people like me to carry on being completely neutral and completely sotto voce all the way through that.

    “At some point, I want to get out and use my own voice again. How and when, I have no idea.”

    Mr Marr gave no further hint about the source of his mounting frustration with politics, but had reflected earlier in the interview on his flirtation with Marxism when he was a student.

    His interest in radical left-wing ideas even earned him the nickname Red Andy, but he told the interviewer that he never fully embraced Marxist theories.

    Mr Marr said the work of Karl Marx was still a “useful tool when you’re trying to understand the world”, but added: “He had absolutely no real sense of politics.”

    He went on to say of capitalism: “My view is that the market is something in which we live all the time, it’s almost the water we swim in and it’s given us all the things we take for granted around ourselves.

    “It’s a great machine for inventiveness and ingenuity, but it presents two really serious problems.

    “One is dirt, it produces filth and pollution. The second is that it produces huge and unacceptable levels of inequality. To me, the job of politics is to clear up the dirt and reduce the inequality.”

    Mr Marr was appointed as the BBC’s political editor in 2000 before going into presenting programmes including The Andrew Marr Show, which has run since 2005.ENDS


    • theisland says:

      Will Andy be helping Mandy with the manifesto?


    • tarien says:

      Do any of us really need this individual in the role of political editor, representing the political stance of the BBC. NO, yes I thought you all might say that.


  12. StewGreen says:

    Feedback show on R4
    – Claimed “a factual 15 mins on Radio 4 costs only £3,600”
    FFS that sounds a lot lots of private podcasters could prouce a good 30 minutes in half a day on their phone
    That’s like 100th of the BBC cost

    – Talking about dramas they said they have dramatically cut budgets … OMG
    .. then next moment they admitted they still produce the same number of hours on that budget.
    One one thing seems obvious is that the BBC pays for a drama and then fails to market it.
    Like why when they make a drama is it not automatically sold to a grand network of English speaking speech radio stations : Aus, NZ, South Africa, India, Canada, America, Caribbean etc.

    Two members of the public talked about shows they liked.
    Bothe of them were from London.


    • Garry Lavin says:

      They sell drama all over the world but it’s not automatic.

      It costs about a quarter of a million for each episode of drama……and about £50,000 for an episode of factual tv.

      Drama seems to be the current way to keep viewer figures up……but in some cases, the figures are the same as popular factual.


      • StewGreen says:

        Gary you are talking about TV
        I did say I was talking about radio drama.


  13. Foscari says:

    Marr -Used to sell the Trotskyist Socialist Worker outside
    Kings Cross station in London .Maybe he wants to become
    the editor now.


  14. Guest Who says:

    Marr… Kumar…

    The market rate talent the BBC had and has is truly… unique.


  15. Deborah says:

    10pm Sunday night was a fine example on how to sanitize a news report. A brief part of the film shown of the Palestinians in cars driving through North London threatening to rape Jewish women and children before Mishal was able to say the demonstrations passed off mainly peacefully. If you didn’t know there had been other attacks, the comment made no sense. If you did know that two youths attacked a rabbi in Chigwell and knew he has ended up in hospital, you wouldn’t know that was part of the attacks that wasn’t peaceful. I was in Finchley today and fortunately didn’t hear the yobs but I can tell you from previous incidents, it leaves you unnerved and I wouldn’t consider the verbal attacks as peaceful. But still, Jews are the wrong kind of minority and in Mishal’s eyes, count for nothing.

    Tonight is the first night of the Jewish High Holy day of Shavuot celebrating receiving the Torah. But of course, unlike Ramadan or Eid was too trivial to mention by BBC news.


    • Demon says:

      Stay safe Deborah.


    • NCBBC says:

      There is an aspect of the immediate mobilisation of young Muslim men at the drop of a hat, which affects us all.
      In any altercation which involves Islam or Muslims, hundreds or thousands of Muslims are able to gather at any spot in a matter of minutes. This can only happen if there is a communication, command/control and conveyance system to facilitate such a rapid response.

      1. Communication – the mobile phone does that

      2. Command centre – the mosque or its affiliates

      3. Conveyance – in most European cities the taxi service is operated by Muslims. This provides a quick and reliable service to take Muslim units to the confrontation zone.

      4. Combat ready young men.

      The result of this integrated system is that in any confrontation, Muslims, though a minority, are able to have local superiority in numbers at the confrontation zone. This is a quasi military Rapid Response system.

      This system allows them to gain superiority over other protesters and even the police. This has been evident now for decades in all Western European cities. The astonishing thing is that Muslims/Islam knew and planned from the outset that they had to do this.

      This has very serious ramifications – particularly in France, as it sets out to protect France.


      • Rob in Cheshire says:

        It is also useful that the young muslim men do not work, so they are available at the drop of a hat.


    • tarien says:

      Once again we must understand that there is a very close link between Jews and Muslims, they are bascially all ARABS. They will always be as perverse aganinst each other as they have been for centuries-and certainly before Islam came about in the 7th Century.
      Now what emerges is one that is of loathing, hate, become decayed, gangerous even in their struggle each for continuance. We in the West if at all possible should keep well away from the conflict and reduce the reporting of same to the very minimum. Europe/Britain have monsterous problems now to face, Israel/Palistine must not be brought into our scope of worry.


    • NCBBC says:


      Palestine support around the world

      Yellow areas indicate support for Palestinians.


      • Guest Who says:


        A few days ago TIME tweeted a ‘must watch’ compilation of ‘all’ the protests around the world.

        I used to subscribed to TIME and Newsweek.

        Now they are both woke joke comics created by juveniles for fellow ovine idiots.


  16. Guest Who says:

    Katty sucks up good.


    • JohnC says:

      ‘Palestinians’ first I notice. Twice.
      The general format is ‘Israel-Palestein (including wikipedia).
      Every link I checked which says Palestein first is Pro-muslim.
      Deliberate choice of words by the Democrats. And a nasty little dig at Jews.


  17. Guest Who says:

    ‘Appeared to show’.


    Fact check that, Springster.


    • Guest Who says:

      Jez* will be swooning.

      *Both of them.

      Can’t wait for the Today Press Review too.


    • StewGreen says:

      Shayan quoting the BBC page
      but since the police tweet used the same phrase they are covered.
      AFAIK the video comes from a single source
      so someone could argue could have been doctored.


    • Rich says:

      Guest, Stew,

      Shayan, the Muslim Marianna, or “Arab Spring” perhaps, came to the bBbc via Middlesex University having once been employed by the the Iranian Government.

      Here’s some of his employment history according to Linkedin.

      Iranian Radio Station (IRIB Payam Radio)
      Apr 2009 – Jan 2011 1 year 10 months

      Tehran, Iran

      I was employed as the supervisor for the international news section of the Iranian National Radio, personally responsible for monitoring the latest international news developments of the day.

      I selected the most relevant and interesting stories, translated them into Persian and sent them to Iranian state radio head office.

      Iranian Ministry of Industry Graphic
      Assistant Engineer
      Iranian Ministry of Industry
      Jun 2010 – Nov 20106 months

      Tehran, Iran

      I was the assistant Engineer on a Feasibility Study Project relating to the implementation of modern technologies in 10 different fields of industry within Iran.

      I carried out detailed research regarding the feasibility of the changes and the profitability of the project by interviewing managers, recording their responses and presenting the findings to the team of Engineers.

      I prepared comprehensive reports comparing statistics and estimating the consequences of the recommendations

      Young Journalists Club (YJC) Graphic
      Young Journalists Club (YJC)
      May 2006 – Jun 20093 years 2 months


      I was the official correspondent for the Housing Ministry and Energy Ministry, initially employed as an economic and industrial translator of international news, then an interpreter for live interviews

      I was later promoted to ‘Main Reporter’ for two ministries where my duties comprised of writing, editing and posting headlines, analysis and articles regarding the latest economic developments of the country. ”

      Am I reading this right. It would certainly explain his reluctance to call a spade a spade, at the very least it surely questions his impartiality and suitability for the post he is in, a post he has apparently been in for over 8 years. How long have they had a “Monitoring Unit”? Is Marianna really nothing more than a recent rebrand?

      An ex-“Nezam” employee assessing the legitimacy of such information and news? Deciding what we should and can consider to be the real story? Only at the bBbc.


      • Guest Who says:

        Tx for that.

        He is also the fact checker whose facts need checking as they seldom check out.


      • Garry Lavin says:

        They’ve had a monitoring unit since WW2.


    • JohnC says:

      They always leave for for doubt when it’s off-agenda. Just a little niggle that it might not be true.
      And what did the Mayor of London, Muslim Sadiq Khan say ?.
      “Hate crimes are inexcusable and have no place in our city”
      Is that is Sadiq ?. Nothing specific about their utterly disgusting chants to rape Jews daughters ?. Just a generic phrase to cover anti-Muslim hate crime as well ?.
      I see this story has gone up late at night again. Let’s see if it survives on the BBC front page until breakfast.


  18. vlad says:

    Where could these Palestinian supporters be getting their anti-semitic views from? Surely not from a faith that compares Jews to pigs and apes, and exhorts its adherents to attack unbelievers?


  19. taffman says:

    Here is a thought for the week: If we the humble posters can see the blatant bias promulgated by Al Beeb, so can the Tory MPs. Why haven’t they taken action ?


    • vlad says:

      They’re frit.

      And in many ways they’re from the same liberal swamp.


      • StewGreen says:

        Yep most are socialist, Agenda21, fakegreen, Great Reset people
        so part of BBC groupthink


  20. StewGreen says:

    I see someone claiming correctly that SOME of those Muslim protesters carrying placards saying things like “Behead those who insult Islam” at the Danish Embassy in 2006
    were jailed for some years
    Mostly cos the police found more incitement material at their homes.
    However on appeal some sentences were reduced
    The photo show at least 8 carrying death placards
    court reports seem to mention only 8 being jailed


  21. JohnC says:

    Covid: Tom Cruise signs shirts for football club on movie set
    OMG!. Can it be true ?. Did Tom really sign some shirts ???.
    Alarm bells rang so I checked out the story.
    Ah – there we go. The picture is of girls playing football.
    All is as expected. Agenda-led non-story.


  22. StewGreen says:

    Old religion : “No one is free from sin”

    BBC Church of Wokology : “members of SpecialVictimhood groups are eternally FREE from sin
    .. that includes black criminals, women that murder their husbands etc.

    but #OrangeManBad and #WhiteManBad marked as eternally FULL of sin, just for existing
    .. unless they are in a SpecialVictimhood group too or have won points from preaching wokeness”

    So most white women are marked as eternally FULL of sin too unless the spout lefty/lib politics or are lesbians


    • Rob in Cheshire says:


      Have you been talking to Pope Frank?


    • StewGreen says:

      I suppose that the idea white people are marked as eternally FULL of sin,
      is pushback against the idea that black people or gays etc. are eternally FULL of sin,
      an idea that a small number of bigots might have pushed in the 1960’s

      But that attempt at reversal is not a good correction
      It’s a “two wrongs don’t make a right” thing.


  23. JohnC says:

    The wording of the BBC articles abou Gaza are clearly carefully written to be more or less neutral, but with many small nudges that the Palestinians are the innocent victims here (like a big picture of a rescue worker caryying a large red teddy-bear from the rubble).
    But what I have noticed is that they never, ever describe Hamas or anything they do as terrorism. They always call them militants. This is despite the UK and the USA officially recognising them as a terrorist organisation (which they sometimes reluctantly inform us in a stock-paragraph buried near the end of the article).
    It’s clear the BBC do not regard them as terrorists.


    • vlad says:

      Indeed, there are many ways of skewing a story while claiming neutrality. And Al-Beeb uses them all.


    • Helena Hand-Basket says:

      You describe BBC images of a rescue worker carrying a large red teddy from the rubble. Oh, dear – it sounds as though Damian has joined the Beeb! I refer to a dodgy TV reporter in the 1990s Channel 4 sitcom ‘Drop the Dead Donkey’. Desperate to be shown with tear-jerking pictures, he displays a teddy in the ruins of war zones and disasters throughout the world. Eventually, his boss discovers the much travelled toy and puts an end to the trick.

      This was a very funny and deeply cynical comedy about a fictitious news station. (My husband and I are watching the whole lot on DVD.) It’s a sad reflection on the decline in UK TV over the last twenty years that once they could make a programme that mocked journalistic tricks. Now they mostly join in with them.

      It’s also striking that the writers of DDD were somewhat leftist, but it’s still very good. The lefty ‘comedy’ writers now are utterly lacking and subtlety or balance.


      • StewGreen says:

        video of the teddy bear sketch
        from Drop The Dead Donkey reporter Damien Day


    • Rob in Cheshire says:


      I did not see the photo of the teddy. That old cliche will never die, it seems. What sort of “rescue worker” wastes time “rescuing” a teddy?


  24. JohnC says:
    Just take a look. It’s appalling journalism. They focus on children instead of the real story because it’s cheap and easy emotional blackmail.
    This can never be resolved by dwelling on the consequences. The BBC should be concentrating on the cause. But we know why they don’t.


    • taffman says:

      Noted, the posed photograph with a teddy bear.
      Propaganda, all paid for by the Telly Tax goofs.


      • JohnC says:

        Absolutely : just look how clean it is. I thought it might be photoshopped at first but the light and shadows look right.
        Of course the BBC are happy to show it.
        No doubt TIME magazine will have it on the front cover. They have no morals either about using fake pictures when they suit the agenda.


      • Guest Who says:

        Dimbles joins The Muppets.


  25. JohnC says:

    ‘We gave Venezuelan migrants a licence to dream’
    10 temporary legal status. They will be minimum wage labour for 10 years then they will have to leave.
    If it’s so good, why don’t we do it to all these people from Syria instead of letting them stay here forever ?.


  26. AsISeeIt says:

    Would you like opinions with that? No? Well, here they are anyway!

    Big corporations may not have planned the pandemic, that’s just a whacky way out there conspiracy theory, but our big corporates have certainly taken advantage of the panic to move forward with some developments the public might otherwise have questioned.

    Pandemic shuts down 500 bank branches‘ the Telegraph reveals. As so often one has to qualify the headline to correctly read: 500 bank branches close during lockdown. Afterall, the banks haven’t suffered 500 branches worth of staff suddenly died of the plague.

    Banks have for some time now wanted to cut staff costs and to push customers toward online banking. They already had the technology and this has been a golden opportunity to advance the process. The loss of so many reasonably well paid jobs and the elimination of the community hub that a bank counter service once provided to a locality are just so much collateral damage and one would be classed as a luddite were one to protest, right? These sort of externalities of business activity don’t bother us in the way that we would be bothered by – for instance – plastic waste?

    New freedoms come with a health warning‘ warns the ‘i’ newspaper. We’re no fan of the lefty-liberal ‘i’ which claims to be free-thinking but invariably follows a BBC/Guardian-flavoured world view. However, we do like this headline. It nicely catches the mood of the day.

    It may be that even our lockdown enthusiasts have got just about to the end of most of the public’s patience. But that silent majority that went quietly along with it all, that perhaps half-heartedly clapped along with all the nonsense (so to speak) they will now perhaps gradually begin to only slowly realise the damage that has been done to their lives and their society.

    The Telegraph, tellingly, offers: ‘Your guide to flourishing in a post-lockdown world‘ – obviously we won’t really be back to normal if we should require such a guide to the new normal. Surely our memories for normality are not that short that we need reminding? What are we, lockdown goldfish? I’m feeling more like a hamster on a lockdown mini treadmill. No, this will be a guide not to the former normal but to the new normal.

    Britain opens up – but experts warn public to stick to meeting outdoors‘ (Guardian) – see what I mean?

    Don’t blow it, Britain. As big reopening starts, PM calls for “heavy dose of caution”‘ (Daily Mail) – Labour, the Guardian and the BBC can forget putting their oppositional hopes in that covid inquiry of theirs. Dontcha hear that? If things go awry Boris said it’s all our fault.

    The Guardian panders to its artsy audience: ‘Get back! The best things to see as the arts return’ – judging by the pics accompanying this feature that’ll be Auguste Rodin’s rather miserablist Thinker juxtaposed with some young woman in a wheelchair celebrating with balloons.

    The irreverent Daily Star provides a refreshing riposte: ‘Culture vulture Brits go mad for the theatre & even art galleries, innit! We love talking Pollocks‘ – a jokey reference there to the vintage modern art charleton Jackson Pollock.

    It’s hardly news to devotees hereabouts to hear the BBC has given up on the pretence of impartiality.

    Marr: I want to speak my mind on politics‘ (Telegraph) – well, you could have knocked me down with a proverbial feather.

    Worth quoting this one beyond the headline methinks…

    Andrew Marr has voiced his frustration over BBC impartiality rules that prevent him from speaking his mind about politics. The broadcaster, 61, predicted that the coming decade would be even more “turbulant”‘ – I sense that Andy the old Trotskyite still thinks the Revolution is just around the corner.

    Asked at an appearance at a book festival…‘ – promoting his own book or a nice off-the-books appearance gig, we wonder? Nice work if you can get it. Up the workers!

    … whether he ever felt “a desperate urge to come out of the closet” over his political views. Marr replied “Yes, absolutely”

    Andrew “Red Andy” Marr’s lefty politics, mind you, being among the worst kept secrets on planet W1A.

    A decades long career in supposedly impartial BBC news and current affairs and all along he objected to the house rule – the basic premise of non-bias. It’s a bit like an NHS medic admitting to wanting to be a serial killer – if only the rules would allow it. Harold Shipman.

    Nick Timothy is meanwhile fighting a losing battle in the Telegraph: ‘It’s time we kicked politics out of football‘ – that shipman has sailed. Or, should I say, that ball game has already kicked off.


  27. taffman says:

    If the French navy can prevent “some” illegals cross the Channel why can’t the Royal Navy stop all of them?
    IMHO there is secret collusion at work in our present liberal government.
    Why do the RNLI’s life boats go out and bring them in and not return them from whence they came ?
    Why on earth are we – the tax payer funding the French to dump their rubbish here ? The same taxpayers that voted to leave the EU to stop the mass invasion of Great Britain. This government does not represent the people that voted them in .
    Message to Bo Jo : Britain is full , there is a shortage of hospitals , doctors , schools and houses .


  28. Guest Who says:

    The bbc Moaning Emole continues the propaganda.

    Gaza’s ‘deadliest day’ so far

    The conflict between Israel and Hamas has entered its second week with Israeli warplanes earlier launching air strikes on several areas of Gaza City, shortly after Hamas fired a barrage of rockets at southern Israel. It comes as Palestinian officials in Gaza said Sunday was the deadliest day since the current fighting with Israel began. United Nations (UN) Secretary-General António Guterres pleaded for an immediate end to the “utterly appalling” violence. And warned that further fighting could plunge the region into an “uncontainable crisis”. The UN has warned of fuel shortages in Gaza which could lead to hospitals and other facilities losing power. Lynn Hastings, UN deputy special co-ordinator for the Middle East Peace Process, told us she had appealed to Israeli authorities to allow it to bring in fuel and supplies but was told it was not safe.

    What Gazan officials say being gospel.

    Several lightly breathing shrouds being art directed as we speak.

    The media notion of an armed conflict is bizarre.

    They reckon that they should be allowed to stand immune on top of a side firing weaponry, and the target of this weaponry should allow safe passage of essential logistical supplies to the war machine.


  29. Foscari says:

    I hope all you boys from girls and white women rape land
    enjoyed your day out in Londonistan yesterday. You cant travel
    to Pakistan at the moment. Maybe you thought that you
    could come down south and one of your “brothers” the
    London mayor would let you get away with any vile
    anti- Semitic bile you spouted. However useless our
    mayor is , he is not anti-Semitic. It will be
    interesting today if Asad Ahmad or Liz Rateef on their BBC
    London regional programme even mention yesterdays
    rhetoric from our multi cultural ethnic friends from Bradford to teach us about some of their cultural
    paying us a visit


    • R P McMurphy says:

      So Mr. Blair look at the results of the imports you and Mandleson brought us to rub the rights face in diversity.

      Open shouts on our streets to start a pogrom.
      Bombs on buses, bombs on the underground, bombs at pop concerts.
      Driving vehicles into crowds.
      Grooming gangs.
      Drug dealing.
      Crash for cash.
      Disproportionate numbers of the prison population.
      Grievance after grievance.

      All from only one section of society, Muslims.

      Now compare the above with our Jewish community.

      Live in peace here for years getting on with life and respecting the laws of the land and asking nothing in return.

      In France there is an exodus of Jews to Israel caused by Muslim immigration and the trouble it brings with them.

      This could happen here and it would be to the detriment to the UK.

      As the Muslim population increases so do their demands. What was witnessed yesterday is the tip of an iceberg. Remember ” first they came for the Jews”.


  30. Up2snuff says:

    BBC WEB-SITE Watch #1 – whoaa there!

    Free advertising from the Corporation that is not meant, not allowed, to do advertising? what is this then: (Middle of the Home Page – banner width, under heading ‘Pressure Point’ and featuring in soft focus a young blonde wimmin.)

    Better be quick to take a look because I would not be surprised if it gets taken down pronto. Especially if someone at the BBC scans this web-site. The BBC are getting blatant in their ‘news’ manipulation.


    • Guest Who says:

      Springster needs to up her game.

      Jon Snow and June Sarpong self isolating?


  31. Guest Who says:

    They appeared to feel awfully empowered though.

    And looked just like those at a nearby rally waving flags being addressed by a senile anti semite beloved of Momentum and the BBC.


  32. Guest Who says:

    Seems Jez’ Gazan film crews got to Mars before the Chinese.


    • JohnC says:

      lol, The Chinese Mars landing reminds me of the Borat films where they make out it’s real but the camera switches to and from the shoulder view of each person speaking so it’s obviously 100% acting.
      I can only think they know 80% of the world is too stupid to realise it’s fake.


  33. Fedup2 says:

    Absolutely no chance of them being charged and named today …

    Anyway – last night I put up a piece from the DT about a BBC comrade called Andrew Marr admitting it is becoming harder and harder to keep his personal politics out of the BBC ( that’s the bit where you laugh ) – so I thought I’d go look at the ‘comments ‘ on the DT in response to the piece .

    There arnt any comments allowed .

    This accords with Fedup2 s laws – the more ‘controversial ‘ a subject is – the less the media will allow comments ….

    Anyone who still suffers to watch Marr will know he is a far left woke SNP EU supporter without the need for him to declare it .

    If you want to hire mr Marr to speak – you can hire him via Chartwell Speakers – more selective than the largest speaker agency JLA …£25 k a gig – nice work …


    • Deborah says:

      I might have assumed Andy M is a Conservative and going over the top to appear as a Labour supporter to hide his true allegiance. Doesn’t sound very credible, does it?


  34. Thoughtful says:

    BBC caught red handed covering up Child Sex rape by Pakistani Muslim gangs in Oldham at the request of the Labour council and Labour controlled GMP.×900


    • StewGreen says:

      Change twitter images size tag to “small” otherwise they don’t work or overfill the screen.



      • Thoughtful says:

        Thanks for that !

        Although I’m still no wiser where I change the tag.


        • StewGreen says:

          @Thoughtful Your link ends in “name=900×900”
          that does work as a link
          but I posted it as an embedded image and changed the end to “name=small”


          • JimS says:

            Why confuse people?

            You haven’t ’embedded’ an image at all, you have just posted an edited link to the Twitter image.

            An embedded image is coded into the web page that displays that image, something that is often done in emails so that all the information is delivered in one package.

            Most web pages use links to images, (the address of the image file), even when the page and its images are hosted on the same server.


            • StewGreen says:

              Sorry @JimS , yes I have very much embedded the image
              the image is within this page when I check from all my devices here.
              Let me try to understand what you are saying
              Are you saying that when you look at my post you don’t see the image ?
              cos I can see it in my post and so can @Thoughtful
              Are you not seeing the image ? like is your system different …Apple or something ?

              It was not just a case of me just posting a link
              The actual image shows up in my post
              whereas in @Thoughtful’s original he only posted a link to the Twitter image
              and then to actually see the image, you have to click that link and image opens up alone on a fresh page.
              I’m not saying a did a great technical step
              all I did was click the Add Image button, and change the suffix to “small”


      • StewGreen says:

        Kevin Fitzpatrick is @kevfitz21 based in Oldham
        BBC reporter in the North West covering politics for @BBCRadiomanc and @BBCNWT
        he Joined Twitter in October 2010

        @JimfromOldham is Jim McMahon
        .. became Shadow Transport Secretary in Jan 2020

        That letter was published by Raja Miah in Jan 2020
        Twitter thread where Fitzpatrick responds
        He says ‘I did do a programme about grooming’

        Actually the prog was in Feb 2014
        That letter is dated August 2013
        So he did sit on it for 6 months.


    • vlad says:

      What jumps off the page is just how deferential the BBC ‘journalist’ is towards the councillor, and how willing to hold the story on the grounds a) that knowledge about the activities at the (shisha) clubs was ‘very limited’ and b) out of concern over ‘tensions’ within the community ahead of murdered Lee Rigby’s funeral.

      ‘Community tensions’ is the dishonest and cowardly excuse used everywhere for not properly investigating mostly muslim child grooming gangs.

      As for a), in fact knowledge was not limited at all, as is revealed in this report:

      “There was no doubt of what had taken place or the severity of this. Yet here we have Jim McMahon appearing to have put pressure on a BBC journalist not to run with the story claiming that knowledge was ‘very limited’.

      ‘Despite contacts in the Asian community confirming to me [Kevin Fitzpatrick] that there was concern about young people going into these clubs…we agreed not to broadcast anything after YOU told us that knowledge about the activities at these clubs was very limited and you were concerned about tensions in the town ahead of Lee Rigby’s funeral.’

      It would not be the first time that what a Politician claims has ZERO resemblance to reality. This dossier of evidence clearly shows Oldham Council, including its then Leader, Jim McMahon, was fully aware that our children were being lured, piled with drink and drugs, blackmailed and sexually assaulted in a network of shisha bars operating in Oldham town centre. From an analysis of emails leaked to me prior to this date that Jim McMahon and Oldham Council had written and/or received, the ‘very limited’ knowledge that Oldham Council included

      • these shisha bars advertise on Facebook. Targeting young people, especially young girls, they attempt to lure them in and are promoted as for hire for ‘fresher’ type functions

      • these premises are not open to the public with locked doors and windows covered

      • they are ‘private clubs’ where rooms are available to rent by the hour

      • the local college being briefed of the safeguarding concern

      • aware that a concerned father and brother storming the premises to remove the daughter

      • GMP receiving intelligence that an Asian heritage girl was being blackmailed into giving oral sex at one of these venues

      • Inspector Haydn Roberts had already written to the local MP, Michael Meacher to make him aware of this ‘emerging safeguarding risk’.

      • there is intelligence to suggest that young people who access these venues are vulnerable to child sexual exploitation

      • this is evidenced by reports of a girl being blackmailed into giving oral sex as the offenders had photographed her in compromising positions

      • adult males who control or attend the premises have received MULTIPLE abduction warnings to protect individual children

      • children are invited and after being plied with drink and drugs are then exploited

      • there are multiple premises operating in Oldham under such circumstances

      • the Police Chief Inspector’s concerns around risks around CSE to be, in his own words, ‘MASSIVE’.

      This is just some of the evidence. I think that it makes a mockery of Jim McMahon’s use of the term of having ‘very limited knowledge’.

      When Jim McMahon and Oldham Council were made aware of these ‘private clubs’ (in the right and proper ways), instead of informing parents to be vigilant and inform their children, Jim McMahon in this exchange with a BBC reporter in addition to his ‘limited knowledge’ even attempted to keep this story out of the news because of ‘Lee Rigby’s funeral.’ ”


      • StewGreen says:

        @Vlad Thoughtful’s image showing the BBC reporter cooperating with the Oldham Council head in 2013
        seems to come out of work by Raja Miah so I expect that he’s sometime done a YouTube video about it.

        I just checked Raja’s Twitter
        and he has been the victim of a recent smearjob of the Sunday Times backed as ever by the Labour frontgroup the HateyNoHopers

        When he replies under their tweet and says that the report is full of specific lies ..they chose to ignore him.

        At minute 26 of his new video Raja references Jim McMahon still attacking Raja on Twitter Rumble video (Raja’s YouTube channel is still open as well)

        Back to the letter, Raja has a webpage where he talks about the letter
        scroll a few screens down


        • StewGreen says:

          There are bad rabbit holes
          and there are good rabbit holes
          Now I see that that the author of the SundayTimes/HnH hitpiece against Raja
          HannahAlOthman is former @UKLabour Press Officer working for some Labour MPs
          according to Raja


          • StewGreen says:

            The journo loses in the BTL below the line comments
            Not many people there cos it’s a local article
            maybe about 130
            but Pro-raja comments get 100 likes
            whereas ones that look like they come from a Labour PR office get 30 likes
            Many say the Labour candidate was “contacting employers of residents with allegations about them being Far Right”


  35. digg says:

    I’ve noticed before that Rip Off Britain on the BBC, the show designed to provide pensions to elderly ex Beeboid ladies seems to have a resident panellist from Which Magazine. This morning they added a second Which spokesman to talk about holidays or some such crap. I am wondering if this marriage between the BBC and Which is some sort of under the radar “advertising” deal between them.


    • StewGreen says:

      quote “As a not-for-profit charitable organisation, all the money made from subscription goes straight back into Which? to continue to provide unbiased advice to consumers”


    • Nibor says:

      An Ex CEO of Which is a partner author of a book called

      The War Against The BBC .

      I hope to return to a critique of it soon .


  36. StewGreen says:

    9am Marr was about business mistakes

    – Daniel Kahneman – created nudge now talks about noisy’ human judgement.
    He found judgement of different executives varies so much.
    eg judges sentences vary much more than you expect.
    At meetings you get false info, cos of the pressure to conform.

    – Gillian Tett – Now editor of the FT she predicted the 2008 crash , says due to her background as anthropologist

    – Ann Cairns – the first female engineer qualified to work offshore, not chairman of Mastercard.

    Each week Marr’s show features people with new books to plug.
    Here finding more women than men.
    but today there doesn’t seem to be a race angle.
    Tho I suppose Kahneman is Jewish. (he grew up in Nazi occupied France)


  37. Thoughtful says:

    Net inward migration to the UK for the year April 2019 – end March 2020 was an astonishing 715 000 ! Most of these people came from India most of this period was under the premiership of the bottler, and depite his lies to reduce migration it has increased.


  38. theisland says:


    • vlad says:

      I’ve often wondered why Sky News Aus is so much more right-leaning than our own Sky News, which is indistinguishable from the BBC and every other broadcaster.


      • StewGreen says:

        Both started by Murdoch
        SkyNewsUK was sold to US giant Comcast a couple of years ago
        “Commiecast”: leans left

        However SkyNewsAus first had rightie columnist Andrew Bolt 10 years ago
        ..and found rightie is popular
        It hoovered up the righties that were dropped by the ABC etc.


        • Dobyns says:

          I was a customer of Comcast for several years when they had a monopoly on Cable TV and Innerweb services when I lived in suburban Maryland.

          Comcr*p also owns the US network NBC and Universal Studios. They are the largest cable TV provider in the US.

          To Comcr*p, the term ‘customer service’ is an oxymoron. They make Ryanair look like white gloved silver service.


    • Banania says:

      The link doesn’t work for me.


  39. Guest Who says:

    Shayan on the serious stuff.

    A few dodgy ‘sites’?


    • Ian Rushlow says:

      “…Gaza, one of the most densely populated places in the world..”

      Not really. It’s not even close, certainly not in the top 100. The population density is about 13,700 people per square mile. Compare with Manila (1st position, at 107,000 per sqm), Bombay (4th, 83,000 per sqm) or Cairo (66th, 41,000 per sqm). Just third world cities that are packed? No. How about Union City in the USA (37th, 52,000 per sqm)? Or Paris (31st, 53,000 per sqm)? In fact, 18 of the 67 most densely populated areas are in France.


      • Up2snuff says:

        Ian, the Beeb probably had problems converting the Imperial to Metric. 😉



  40. Fedup2 says:

    Answer – those cunning israelis use blurry missiles to hit blurry islamic terrorist targets …


  41. digg says:

    The Independent:

    Rabbi attacked outside his synagogue in Essex

    First line of article…

    “Essex Police do not believe incident connected to pro-Palestine protests”

    Then on to….

    “Police are searching for two teenagers who violently attacked a rabbi outside his synagogue in Essex on Sunday.

    Rabbi Rafi Goodwin was driving away from his place of worship in Chigwell around 1.15pm when two young men stepped out in front of his car and began shouting anti-Jewish abuse at him.”

    Of course it was not stirred up by the constant wall-to-wall attacks on Israel across the UK Lefty media…. Nothing to see here sort of thing really!

    A BBC site search for “rabbi attack in essex” returns zilch….

    Lower than a snakes belly as it were.


  42. Fedup2 says:

    I live in the catchment area for the local paper – the Waltham Forest Guardian – it describes the attackers as ‘Asian ‘ – and they stole the rabbis ‘ phone – which I guess makes it a robbery . Let’s hope they are dumb enough to keep the phone …


  43. StewGreen says:

    11am news “Greenpeace says” plastic waste sent to Turkey, and apparently dumped.


  44. StewGreen says:

    11am R4 show : hard done by British-Pakistanis
    ..Returning from Pakistan, they rushed to meet the quarantine deadline, but their flights got screwed up
    so by the time they arrived they were in the quarantine hotel programme.
    BBC sent him a recorder
    Hotel “clean and modern, but window has no street view only to courtyard … difficult to find spare security slot where a security man can accompany him so he can take a walk”

    next coaches came with India then Indian relatives with huge bags of supplies…Indian food etc.”

    The Pak guy complains about the food.. it’s getting mixed up, coming still part frozen etc.

    He can’t get his walk cos security are too busy chasing runaways.
    The Urdu guard says “who cares, when people run away it saves the hotel money”
    Then he says maintenance staff aren’t wearing masks.


    • StewGreen says:

      Home Office said the hotels held 27,000 people
      but won’t give stats on how many ever tested positive
      nor how many absconded.

      (Both the Pak guy and BBC woman are from Bradford)


  45. gb123 says:

    Sirkeer is producing an all new manifesto and will be touring it. No doubt the beeb will have ample opportunity to bring out the “Labour says” intro ad infinitum. I wonder if new new new Labour will drag out and find a use for the tablets of plastic so kindly provided by Ed Miliband. In these hard economic times all they would need is a marker pen.


  46. tarien says:

    Assuning Western Civilisation still exists in the next 30 years historians, will look back at these liberal times with utter bafflement. We have the current dominant ideology in the West which is one of celebrating diversity and caring deeply about our poor refugees from the Third World made we might add a Third World by its third-world inhabitants. More remarkable still is the liberal belief that when the First World imports the The Third World in their millions, the First Wiorld will stay the First World…
    It hasn’t of course. It will gradually as we are seeing morph into a barbaric, violent, economically broken, crime ridden hellhole. Governments have tried to hush this up of course. Anyway folks whilst we continue to operate on the ideological basis that all cultures are equal and non-discrimination is a positive virtue, nothing will change. Are we perhaps finding oursleves in a situation worthy of a dysfunctional horror movie? These people themselves are not sick it is simply their way of life and their behaviour which have no place in a civilsed country.


  47. StewGreen says:

    What’s Twitter pushing at me today ? IDAHOBIT

    May 17 marks the International Day
    Against Homophobia, Biphobia, Interphobia and Transphobia (IDAHOBIT),
    which celebrates LGBTQIA+ people globally
    and raises awareness to combat discrimination.)

    Fair enough the law has for 40 years said sexual discrimination is wrong , do we need anything more in the UK ?


  48. StewGreen says:

    Nigel Farage is trending


    • StewGreen says:

      Lefty writer with 9,000 followers
      There are worse tweets for anonymous lefty accounts. hatey account, has 92,000 followers


  49. vlad says:

    Few things give me more pleasure than seeing the far-woke devour each other in a frenzy of sanctimonious righteousness.

    Like revolutionaries down the ages, who always end up butchering each other for not being quite revolutionary enough – whether in France, Russia, China or Cambodia.

    Similarly you can never be quite woke enough for the lefty thought-police.

    Hence the Trans-fascists turn on uber-feminists like Greer and Rowling for daring to claim that men can’t have babies, or some such unpardonable sin.

    And so it is with immense schadenfreude that I bring you the latest example of woke cannibalism:

    “Prince Harry and Meghan Markle face storm over deal with Procter & Gamble which sells ‘racist’ skin whitening cream”.

    Yes, the achingly woke Sussexes are under fire from the even more achingly woke ‘anti-colourists’.

    The headline says it all, but if anyone has the time to waste, here’s the link (not yet on the beeb, but give them time):

    And here’s the gorgeous black and white Meghan.



    • Up2snuff says:

      Very strange photo that, of the two of them, on the front of the Mail today. The baby bump has suddenly disappeared.

      There is a possible explanation: it was an old PR photo from some time ago, before the Meghan (can’t bring myself to type Duchess) was expecting the second baby. It is a nice shot – at least they are both smiling