The Bent BBC Bashir Thread

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  1. Guest Who says:

    Only for those with strong stomachs.

    Think bbc nnnnnnnnaaaaa will go near the bash?


  2. Sluff says:

    BBC London reporting that 19 out of the 20 lowest vaccine uptake boroughs are in London. And that the unvaccinated proportion of health care workers (FFS) is 20% in London versus 11% elsewhere.

    But not only does the BBC have absolutely no idea of why this is, but disgracefully they do not even ask the question why.

    They could ask readers of this esteemed website. I suspect we have a very good idea why.


    • Foscari says:

      Asad Ahmad one of the main presenters on the BBC’S
      Londonistan programme ran a feature last night on why
      London has such a low uptake of the vaccination in many
      of the boroughs of London such as Tower Hamlets and
      makes out if he has no idea why this is the case.
      The reason is very simple many of the population in these
      areas believe it is their gods will if they live or die along
      with the belief that the vaccines contain pork or other haram
      products. Of course one has to respect this. But go and bang
      your head against a brick wall. Or refuse to go to a care home
      or hospital where staff refuse to take the jab. Because of
      the fact that the indigenous population is in a minority of
      around 40% and getting smaller by the year. One has probably
      got a better chance of survival by being at home. And one
      doesn’t need to be a rocket scientist to know why the
      Chinese virus was so virulent and caused so many deaths in
      Care Homes. And may do again.


    • Banania says:

      Fortunately, whatever the reason is, it doesn’t matter. Despite all attempts to prolong the “pandemic” it has already slipped through their fingers, as the ever-increasing desperation of the lies we are told will show.


  3. Up2snuff says:

    Well, funny that this Thread should be up when I return to post about the strange typo: It may get corrected or taken down but at present it states “noBBC criticised over ‘deceitful’ Diana interview”.


    Maybe some junior web-site operative started to type ‘No one at the BBC criticised over ‘deceitful’ Diana interview’ and ran out of time and space to re-set the text below?

    That is, of course, sort of true; Lord Hall has left the BBC as has Martin Bashir. Will there be any retribution? Will the Peers in the House of Lords vote to sack Lord Hall? Will he resign from his latest job? Will Martin Bashir face a loss of BBC Pension? Will he be prosecuted? Will Tim Davie resign or be sacked by the BBC board or by the PM?

    Questions, questions.

    Marianna, care to investigate and come up with some answers?


    • Fedup2 says:

      I thought long and hard whether to put this thread up – all of 10 seconds . I knew general stuff would land up here BUT this subject is so important that it deserves a ‘marker ‘ –

      – when you think that the BBC used forged documents on a member of the Royal Family and mother of a Future King – it’s a real WOW .

      Funny that Nicholas Whitchell was the first in line to interview Diana but the corrupt and dead Steve Hewlett put his boy Bashir on the case …. And ticked the ‘ethnic ‘ box ….

      The question Lord Grade put about ‘how many other cases of this sort of fraud and dirty dealing exists in the BBC ?’ Bares some thought –
      I bet there a good few hard drives and emails being deleted as I write this ….


    • Garry Lavin says:

      I wonder how her brother feels right now? I bet he’s fit to burst. An apology doesn’t seem like quite enough.

      Who is looking into other shenanigans?


    • StewGreen says:

      screenshot of BBC typo
      perhaps it was meant to say “KnobBBC criticised”



  4. Sluff says:

    Why has it taken the BBC 25 years to address this issue, and to rely on a whitewash report for most of that time by a reviewer who became the DG of the BBC?

    If we were reviewing Line of Duty’ would we not call this institutionalised corruption ?

    This from a broadcaster we have to pay for, irrespective of whether we watch it.

    Completely immoral.


  5. Foscari says:

    As the BBC in 1995 used deceit and manipulation to help
    bring the downfall of Princess Diana, today they use
    deceit and manipulation in the quest to “educate” us in
    their default position of helping in every possible way
    to turn the UK into an Anarchist Marxist state. By
    supporting the BLM organization . And at every
    opportunity with their presenters , reporters, editors,
    sub editors , researchers trying to destroy the British way
    of life. Nothing better descibes what an
    oxymoron is than the BRITISH broadcasting
    corporation. There is nothing British about
    it whatsoever.


    • NCBBC says:

      This disgusting manipulation to bring about the fall of Princess Diana could have led to the fall of more then just the fall of Princess Diana. It certainly changed the course of history. And It certainly has affected the lives of her two young sons, and by extension the country.

      It is not enough for the BBC to set up a commission of Inquiry to report back in years, and then to deep six it , as they did with the Israel one.

      There should be a thorough clear and clean out of the BBC. And then criminal proceedings.


    • NCBBC says:

      Its amazing that the BBC continues its sympathy for totalitarian Marxist ideology (and Islam too), an ideology that has deliberately executed the murder of hundreds of millions of people, making the Nazi ideology look tame by comparison. The attack on Princess Diana is just part of their disdain of our tried and tested constitutional arrangements.

      Now they spend our money and efforts in a similar deadly ideology, the removal of CO2, a plant and life nourishing gas. It will do exactly what Marxism did – the death of scientific and engineering Western civilisation, and the massive increase in mortality rates worldwide.

      Even non-political programmes such as Gardner’s world are affected by this obsession to remove CO2.

      A wholesale clear out of the BBC is warranted. If Boris J does not do it, then it follows that the Tories are just socialists in drag.


    • tarien says:

      No one can possibly disagree with those words Foscari- certainly there is nothing British about it, certainly not from the world I was brought up in-now taken surreptitiously by the dark evil stalking our lives.


  6. Fedup2 says:

    The Current DG declined to be interviewed by C4 news tonight – they are camping outside BBC HQ … I wonder where Tony Hall is ? Will he be striped of the peerage and other gongs ? Will he Chuck a sickie like Bashir …..

    Nice to see the MSM feeding on itself . Good for us .

    The other thing to notice is silence from certain vocal quarters ….


  7. Zelazek says:

    Well, my initial reaction was that this was the first good edition of Panorama for about 25 years. It was a programme I used to watch regularly. I thought they did a good job of investigating themselves.

    But then I thought – No, this is damage limitation. Bashir, Hewlett, Hall – the corporation is distancing itself from these bad eggs. They realise that the survival of the BBC is of paramount importance.

    They seem – at last – to understand the value of trust. And if the public gets the idea that the BBC killed Diana, everything will then be lost.


    • Londoner says:

      Zelazek – I agree, Panorama was an excellent current affairs programme back in years gone by, but that was before the BBC was hijacked by the metropolitan left wing establishment who decided the BBC was the perfect organ to denigrate and ultimately destroy the English nation. Their news and current affairs programmes are nothing more than Labour Party political broadcasts, with all the attendant hatred that political party, and others of the left, has for our way of life.

      I’m certain their policy was ‘once you control the BBC you control the nation’.

      Sorry to be slightly off topic where Diana’s concerned.


  8. tomo says:

    As somebody who was “up the jungle” from August to September 1997 and arrived back in the UK to be bemused by what I found – I wonder how it might have panned out if Bashir’s antics had been public knowledge back then?…


  9. Deborah says:

    I don’t think I put it very well on the general thread so I will try to put it better here. What we don’t know is whether Martin Bashir was behaving in the same way as the other ‘journalists’ at the BBC both then and forwards; we know they BBC won’t release the Balen Report, we know (only because someone searched deeply into the BBC) the scientists the BBC implied were at the meeting where the BBC decided that climate change was ‘settled’ were not scientists but charity workers and heads of BBC Drama and the like; and we know the use of the helicopter for the Cliff Richard affair was murky (and I know from a family member of the Johnson household that Dan was promised that the BBC would look after him).

    The Martin Bashir interview just adds to the evidence that the BBC will twist anything to produce a story. And as I said on the general thread, the use of the Diana comment ‘three of us in this marriage’, was used in spite in tonight’s news.

    Of course those of us who post here have not had trust in the BBC for many a long while but for Joe Public Bashir will have made their skepticism grow.


    • StewGreen says:

      It’s not just Bashir,
      It’s not just Sweeney
      It’s not just events when BBC lost in court , or settled out of court (eg Cliff Richard)
      It’s not just the BBC
      It’s that reporting corrupts
      It’s a machine that sucks people into cheating
      They are so wrapped up in creating news-theatre,
      … they lose touch with the real world.


      • Up2snuff says:

        Stew, the BBC have also lost their complete neutrality. Because they are now partial to various causes, pretty much of the National Socialist kind, it skews their programming, thinking and reporting. The BBC’s whole mindset is distorted.

        Global Warming and Climate Change being a foremost example.


        • Mustapha Sheikup al-Beebi says:

          An example of this today was on ‘PM’ with Carolyn Quinn. They had Roger Harrabin on, spouting the usual propaganda, with no searching questions asked. Then came the minister Zac Goldsmith, who sounded red-Green enough to be at home in the BBC: he got questions, but none of the ones he should have got.

          The tone of Quinn’s voice became more anxious and petulant when she noted that the potential Cumbrian coking coal mine hadn’t been cancelled yet. She was also worried about plans for new roads and the HS2 rail project, which would increase emissions. She didn’t ask the following: what are Russia, India and China doing NOW? Why should the UK forego one new coal mine, when we’ve already closed power stations and mines, and China opens new ones every month? If the UK’s share of global CO2 emissions is ~ 1.5% and falling, how can it plausibly be claimed that it matters greatly what we do? What will be the cost in increased energy prices of stopping the use of coal for power?

          The main concern of these ignorant (but dangerous) activists, masquerading as journalists, is to satisfy their own desire to feel virtuous. If Britain isn’t doing all they want on CO2 and so might look bad among their Green friends, the emotions kick in and the moralizing tone grows stronger. These idiots don’t live in the real world of assessing energy costs when making things, providing a service or even heating a home. It’s all about their agenda – whatever the cost – and never the practical consequences.

          It’s very bad news for Britain that the national broadcaster has developed such a restrictive culture that it simply cannot ask the right questions, on CO2 emissions, mass immigration, the EU, China, Islam and so many issues. The Bashir episode is, sadly, just one more illustration of an organization unfit for purpose, a hollowed-out shell of its former self.


  10. The WestWyvern says:

    Had a chat with a work colleague about Bashir earlier. Is the forging of bank statements not a criminal offence?

    Do we know if plod are involved or too busy painting their nails?

    I suspect the Beeb will claim he’s an old infirm and clearly unwell.

    However in my view if offence has been committed then he should face the law. Many nazis were well into their 80s and 90s and brought to justice.


    • jazznick1 says:

      The WestWyvern,

      On Toady this morning, the forger (Matt Weissler) whined about how he, a whisleblower, was treated by the BBC and had his career destroyed by them.

      Did he not wonder how a set of forged bank statements were going to be used ? Not as a ‘prop’ as any bank statement would have sufficed – these needed to be seen up close (as part of a deception on the person/s seeing them).

      Once he realised how his forgeries were used he got ‘forger’s remorse’ and became a whistleblower to save his skin.

      Pretty pathetic and while Bashir was the fraudster Weissler was his naive accomplice in criminal deception.


      • Guest Who says:

        Clearly utterly complicit, but…

        Think if the institutional pressures that existed and still exist.

        A ‘star’ talent tells a junior to do it, overseen by a head of news on the fast track to DG glory.

        Now think about a certain sexual predator roaming W1A at will.

        Nothing changed.


    • Up2snuff says:

      TWW, yes, it is an offence I think of ‘passing off’. According to TWatO, the Metropolitan Police are now involved.


  11. Fedup2 says:

    I was musing about the difference in standards between 25 years ago and now . I can imagine that the current crop of BBC droids wouldn’t know what all the fuss is about because they have a very selective concept of ‘right and wrong ‘.

    I bet they are laughing themselves silly about current corruption and see the Bashir activities as – nothing – but seeing Bashir as a mug for finally admitting what he did .


    • Deborah says:

      Fedup, when I think of the last couple of weeks and the BBC, ie Bowen’s analysis of what is happening in the Middle East, Laura’s article about Boris’ lies and in the last couple of days news items about how the public don’t understand that amber countries are not for general holidays yet. (A couple of days ago I watched as two different couples clearly said the understood they couldn’t go abroad on holidays yet followed by the newsreader saying the public didn’t understand and that EU were due to announce people from the U.K. would be welcome soon).

      Truth comes very low down the BBC’s priorities at the moment but how much of the fake bank statements variety we still have to speculate rather than know.


  12. Fedup2 says:

    Our Future king has read out a broadside of a statement of 2 minutes 9 seconds which – in a fair world – would bury the BBC .
    It was shown on the 10pm news . It deserves to be seen far and wide . I wonder if BBC staff will need ‘ counselling ‘?


  13. Sluff says:

    ITV news at 10 was presented by Tom Bradby, who at one time had a bit of a relationship with Wills and Harry.

    That news programme pretty much went with both barrels, I’m delighted to say.
    And what a pleasure it was.


  14. davylars says:

    10pm news…. Amol Rajan suggests that ‘as this was over 25 Years ago, in the media environment, Perhaps these historical events may be overlooked. ‘

    Strangely though, Empire, colonialism, slavery, windrush, etc. etc.
    These historical events are what the BBC thrive on, making most of their output these days…


    • Guest Who says:


      The BbC drops hot potatoes about itself instantly.

      But scratches anything that suits the narrative until they get blood.


  15. StewGreen says:

    Here’s Prince William’s statement damming the BBC

    “It brings indescribable sadness to know that the BBC’s failures contributed significantly to her fear, paranoia and isolation that I remember from those final years with her.”

    He said that the BBC “not only let my mother down, and my family down; they let the public down too”.


  16. StewGreen says:

    Prince William’s Full statement

    I would like to thank Lord Dyson and his team for the report.

    It is welcome that the BBC accepts Lord Dyson’s findings in full — which are extremely concerning — that BBC employees:

    ● lied and used fake documents to obtain the interview with my mother;

    ● made lurid and false claims about the royal family which played on her fears and fuelled paranoia;

    ● displayed woeful incompetence when investigating complaints and concerns about the programme; and

    ● were evasive in their reporting to the media and covered up what they knew from their internal investigation.

    It is my view that the deceitful way the interview was obtained substantially influenced what my mother said. The interview was a major contribution to making my parents’ relationship worse and has since hurt countless others.

    It brings indescribable sadness to know that the BBC’s failures contributed significantly to her fear, paranoia and isolation that I remember from those final years with her.

    But what saddens me most, is that if the BBC had properly investigated the complaints and concerns first raised in 1995, my mother would have known that she had been deceived.
    She was failed not just by a rogue reporter, but by leaders at the BBC who looked the other way rather than asking the tough questions.

    It is my firm view that this Panorama programme holds no legitimacy and should never be aired again. It effectively established a false narrative which, for over a quarter of a century, has been commercialised by the BBC and others.

    This settled narrative now needs to be addressed by the BBC and anyone else who has written or intends to write about these events.

    In an era of fake news, public service broadcasting and a free press have never been more important. These failings, identified by investigative journalists, not only let my mother down, and my family down; they let the public down too.


    • vlad says:

      Worth stressing that Prince William’s criticism goes way beyond just Bashir, but the BBC and its leaders as a whole.


  17. StewGreen says:

    Prince Harry’s statement

    Our mother was an incredible woman who dedicated her life to service. She was resilient, brave, and unquestionably honest.

    The ripple effect of a culture of exploitation and unethical practices ultimately took her life.

    To those who have taken some form of accountability, thank you for owning it. That is the first step towards justice and truth. Yet what deeply concerns me is that practices like these — and even worse — are still widespread today. Then, and now, it’s bigger than one outlet, one network, or one publication.

    Our mother lost her life because of this, and nothing has changed. By protecting her legacy, we protect everyone, and uphold the dignity with which she lived her life. Let’s remember who she was and what she stood for.


    • Sluff says:

      Unfortunately Harry is misusing this issue to widen it out into barring negative publicity about him and his partner in America.
      His truth is not really my truth, nor do I miss certain similarities between certain interviews with Royal Family members who did have certain agendas in 1995 and 2021.


    • vlad says:

      I suspect Harry’s main criticism of the bBC is that it isn’t woke enough.


  18. Sluff says:

    Could the BBC get Martin Bashir to investigate why certain..ahem… communities in England have high covid case rates, low rates of vaccine take up, high levels of international travel, and low rates of self-isolation discipline???

    The BBC consistently have absolutely no ideas about this, so maybe Bashir could find some answers.


  19. JohnC says:

    This is how they treat Biden:
    Biden laughs off rude interruption at bill signing
    Not sure a phone ringing is a ‘rude interruption’ BBC.
    This is how they treat Trump:
    Trump boards plane with paper stuck to his shoe – BBC News

    And I have to add : I have trouble watching Biden without cringing and expecting an Alien to break through the skin. And I’m already sick of the women he has in the background every time who are staring at him wide-eyed and nodding their agreement as he speaks. They should be offended as the ‘tokens’ they are. Just like the poor Muslim girl who had to follow Corbyn around with an umberella so she was always in the frame.
    But as we all know so well by now, the Left are shallow, selfish creatures who have no sense of shame.


  20. vlad says:

    I hope the BBC aren’t allowed to get way with: “Look, we’ve investigated, we’ve come clean and fessed up, now let’s put it all behind us and move on…”


    • taffman says:

      As I have posted on this site before on numerous occasions ; A Judicial Enquiry is required as it is still going on. .

      Now, those responsible for this treason should be jailed no matter how high up Al Beeb’s Executive Committee they are.
      Power corrupts absolute power corrupts absolutely.

      Ask not we know about Al Beeb but what we do not know ?
      I have that feeling the ‘rats’ are about to squeal.


    • Seppers says:

      Agreed. I had the misfortune to (very) briefly cross paths with some of the makers of Panorama, in around 2016.
      I would say they had clear, set, agendas.
      They were not impartial programme makers.


      • Guest Who says:

        The BBC is usual keen on getting excited on institutional isms.

        The rot has extended from top through every level.

        I once was interviewed by a shire radio ‘reporter’ who arrived in her noddy car.

        A snottier piece of peroxide addled mutton dressed as lamb would have been hard to find.

        And she clearly thought she was destined to be a disinformation specialist once social media was invented.


    • boohanna says:

      Yes, it’s always framed in terms of “mistakes”, “errors of judgement”, etc etc……

      They daren’t state that what we are seeing is a FEATURE NOT A BUG.


  21. vlad says:

    Footnote to Bashir: In the last few years we will have had a muslim (and crook) as BBC religious affairs correspondent, and TWO muslims as successive heads of religion and ethics!!

    (One of whom gave a platform to Abdul Haqq, associate of hate preacher Anjem Choudary.)

    Is that the BBC’s equivalent to ‘rubbing our noses in it’?

    If so, it stinks.


    • taffman says:

      The future King of Great Britain…………..
      \\The “deceitful” way the BBC secured an interview with Diana, Princess of Wales, “substantially influenced” its content, Prince William has said.//

      Over to you Boris, this will test your mettle .

      Where is Al Beeb prime supporter, maxincony on this fiasco?


      • vlad says:

        Let’s hope William will remember when he becomes King and make the BBC pay (if it’s still in existence).


        • taffman says:

          The BBC doesn’t pay, it’s the Telly Tax payers who will have to cough up .
          Unless the monies can be taken out of their pensions fund ?


      • JohnC says:

        Same place as his ethics and personal integrity.
        Nowhere to be seen.


    • JohnC says:

      It’s pure spite.
      One of the defining characteristics of the Left. Goes hand in hand with the shallow, greedy character you find when you scratch the surface.


    • Guest Who says:

      Tony Blair as next DG?


      • tarien says:

        What Guess Who! Another traitor to head the Bibbly Bobbly Crustation surely not-he might want his friend Soros to be on the board game.


  22. vlad says:

    Today’s front page headlines should be fun!


    • Guest Who says:

      Especially what the BBC Young Reporter Headline Review covers. Or does not.


  23. Scroblene says:

    Am I right in saying that the first phone-in programme after the damning report into Martin Bashir’s deceit, wasn’t on until R5’s Nightclub, with Dotun?

    If so, that was a bit weasly, getting him to take the flak when most citizens are fast asleep!

    There were several callers who are always on shortdial, just to make up for the genuine callers who really did let rip! I began to feel quite sorry for the chap.


  24. Fedup2 says:

    The BBC must be desperate – desperate – to get attention away from its own behaviour over Bashir .

    So it is trying to talk about the latest ‘ceasefire ‘( won’t work)

    Tedious stuff about the wind rush Money giveaway ( won’t work)

    Something about false human climate change ( won’t work).

    At some stage Prince Charles will be saying something and must be thinking long and hard about what to do and say .

    And some of the caste of characters in this – Tony Hall – John Birt – and Bashir himself will have to say something .

    I wrote yesterday about the deafening silence from many politicians who are usually desperate to take a high moral position – so Starmer must be itching to bury the BBC- or not …
    By the way – the down grading of this has already begun – with The Guardian now leading with the temporary Middle East cease fire ……

    This is the real test for the future of the BBC – if it were a private enterprise subscriptions would plummet and – perhaps it would have its broadcasting licence withdrawn – but as a public body I suppose it is too big to fail and politicians are frightened of it – it’s an evil monster .
    With a bit of luck the likes of the Daily Mail – will continue with this and not let it go


  25. Guest Who says:

    Moaning Emole… just the headline…

    William attacks BBC over Diana interview

    The cad.

    Oddly this usually would see bbc editorial guidelines penned more as ‘Victims criticise corporate corruption leading to parent’s death’.

    But no. Someone has ‘attacked’ poor Aunty.


  26. Doublethinker says:

    The BBC has again handed the government of the day the excuse it needs to drastically reform , I know we would all prefer abolition to reform, the corporation. This is now a test of the government.
    They must know that the sustained anti Brexit bias of the BBC turned millions against it. The time was ripe for the BBC to be forced to undergo reform. The Tories bottled it , probably because Quisling May et al secretly agreed with the BBC.
    Boris became PM and seemed to ready to do something about the BBC. Then came Covid and perhaps he thought he needed the BBC to help the government during the pandemic.The BBC used the time to push Wokism to the full. In the process they turned millions more against it. Now the UK is pretty much through Covid and Boris has been presented with yet another opportunity to strike at the BBC . DONT MISS THIS TIME BORIS, millions of License Fee payers want it To be subscription only. It will be a popular policy. Just Do It.


    • Seppers says:

      I’m surprised there wasn’t more fuss over the BLM fist and EU flag political NYE fireworks. That’s evidence enough on its own to clearly demonstrate the bias and agenda – funded by licencepayers whether they like it or not.


  27. Fedup2 says:

    Will there be any real punishment for the BBC ? The editorial line being taken today is that one Great British institution is attacking another one .

    But as we know – it is an institution but it is not ‘Great`’ and it is certainly not ‘British ‘ ……

    I’m rather pessimistic – I don’t even think Tony Hall will step down from his Quango jobs yet alone return his fraudulently obtained peerage .
    Hewlett – the exec producer of Panorama – is thankfully dead – only his post-mortem reputation is destroyed .

    Perhaps the Daily Mail will lead the need for the BBC to be ended .


    • Doublethinker says:

      I too don’t think that there will be anything other than a few scapegoats thrown under the bus and some cosmetic changes . The option of moving the BBC to a subscription only service will again be re iewed but found to be too difficult. The BBC will go on doing its best with our money to change us to Woke heaven. Except we the people can bring it to its knees within months by simply refusing to pay the License Fee.
      Admittedly it would need a few hundred thousand refuseniks to build up sufficient momentum for the movement to become unstoppable and millions more to join but it can be done. I think that if say a million simply refused to pay the government would have no choice but to either move to voluntary subscription or to prop it up money from general taxation and I can’t see even this lily livered bunch of Tory wets doing that.
      One other observation is that at 7 am this morning there three or four articles in the DT about this topic and you could comment on all of them. There were lots and lots of comments, 99% of which were anti BBC , many calling abolition of the LF . Now at 11 am the articles are still there but all comments are hidden and no more comments allowed. Even for the Telegraph, which is becoming notorious amongst its readers for not wanting to know what they think, this is highly unusual. What possible reason can this very wet wokish editor have for stopping his readers venting their anger about the BBC?


  28. AsISeeIt says:

    This will go the way the BBC would like this go… one day of universally bad headlines. You’ll have seen them. From the Daily Mail through to the Guardian, they’re all much of a muchness. I’ll just quote the FT’s modest contribution: ‘BBC sorry for Diana interview deceit’

    Then we’ll get a few think pieces in the slightly more conservative Sundays advocating reforms, or an end to the licence fee, or decriminalising non-payment. Meanwhile friends of the BBC will come out in its defence citing the animal documentaries or the costume dramas. By Monday some new news will have come along. Nothing will change. Boris must have sold his soul to the Beeb.


  29. Up2snuff says:

    I hope Fed doesn’t mind me repeating this here because it is pertinent to this Thread

    TOADY Watch #1 – they are not holding back

    From 6 a.m. onwards both in the News, the first look at the newspapers and in the TOADY programme itself they haven’t been fighting shy of the fall-out from Lord Dyson’s report on the Bashir:Diana interview. Nick jumped in quickly on one early contributor and I wondered if he was trying to cut off the next thing the person might say but I think , in retrospect, it was probably quite innocent.

    Although, to be fair again, innocent and BBC are not two words that go together.


  30. Fedup2 says:

    Toady watch –

    The 0810 interview was with Lou Grades ‘ boy . His remedy for BBC misbehaviour is to have another layer of management for ‘oversight ‘.

    He also thinks the government would not be so ‘crude ‘ as to use Bashir in Royal Charter renewal negotiations .

    Maybe the best way to punish the BBC is to starve it of cash . Cut its output let it whither away that way as opposed to full on privatisation which the red tories would never have the courage to embrace .

    By the way the BBC declined to be interviewed by the BBC on its sinking flagship current affairs programme . Enough said .

    ( but with a bit of luck Charles Windsor will chirp up today to keep the fire burning )


  31. Deborah says:

    Harry’s statement in the clip on Toady was all about him (of course) and was the reason for his heavy drinking. Both my mother and Mr D’s mother lost a parent at a very young age and both thought a small Sherry was daring.

    But if we assume the Princes are correct and the BBC’s actions had such a devastating effect on their lives, perhaps the BBC should also reflect what their lies did to Lord Britten, Lord Janner, Cliff Richard, Lord Dannat, Carol Thatcher and all their families but also all the less well known people that the BBC destroyed without a care in the world.


  32. Fedup2 says:

    Oh Yes – classic BBC technique – Charles Moore introduced at 0855 as boris favourite for chairman of the BBC – with Robinson doing the ‘we’ve got to cut this short through lack of time ‘ stunt –
    The usual propaganda technique .


  33. Woodenfish says:

    Martin Bashir says that faking the bank statements was “foolish” and that he “regrets” it. In fact it was quite clever, and it got the result he wanted. The only thing he regrets is being caught. As for Lord Hall, who commended Bashir in a letter written right after the Diana interview — his actions in this whole matter make him look weak, stupid, cowardly and dishonest. Amazing, eh? Who knew?

    And as for us…what shall we do? Sit quietly with our knees together, blinking through our glasses and nodding politely while all the other BBC people assure us that they knew nothing about it, and that no such thing could ever happen now? Shall we pretend to believe them when they say they don’t tell lies any more?

    Before we do that, let’s just take a look at a list, an incomplete list, of some of the lies they tell us every day. That the EU is always right and the British government always wrong. That Israel is always guilty, and Palestine never. That any kind of immigration control is racist. That Britain itself is a nest of racists. That Brexit was a con trick played on stupid, ignorant voters. That POC deserve more of everything, purely on the basis of their colour. That a man dressed as a woman is a woman. That anyone allegedly associated with slavery, in any way, centuries ago, should have their statue torn down. That writers, historians, teachers and anyone else who doesn’t conform to woke ideology should have their books banned, their voices silenced and their livelihoods shut down. That wimmin’s football is as skilful and worth watching as men’s football. That…well, there’s plenty more.

    If there’s anyone out there who still pays the licence fee, I hope they stop paying it now. Never answer their letters. If anyone comes to the door, don’t engage with them. If it ever comes to court, which it won’t, point to the above list, or make your own. If the law makes it compulsory to pay for lies, the law should be defied.


  34. AndyDozefeet says:

    Make no mistake, it wasn’t a stunt to get at Diana, it was a plot to get at Charles and thereby the whole concept of a constitutional Monarchy.

    Bashir is the patsy who they have set up to take the fall. Hopefully what our future King said yesterday will lead to a criminal investigation and senior collars will be felt.

    Tony Hall for a start. Did anyone else notice that the narrative of the criticism of him on the bbbc news presented his alleged ineptitude in conducting his case review? – “he got it wrong because he’s a bit thick” rather than “it was a deliberate cover up that was conceived by those at the top”. Shocking journalism.

    I seriously hope that this episode leads more normal straight thinking people to realise what an utterly currupt and dispicable organisation the bbbc is.

    Another thought that occurred to me was how else have they manipulated the gullible British public with similar tactics that have never and will never be discovered? We on this site see and report their bias on a daily basis but we are, at the moment, the minority who are whistling in the wind.

    Finally a word on the vile creature that is her brother. At best he was a useful idiot who was “taken in” by the fraud, at worst (and in my opinion) he was complicit in the whole thing – he too wanted to destroy Charles (as his classless, bileous and spiteful eulogy 2 years later revealed) and I wouldn’t be at all surprised if he was keen to talk her into giving the interview but requested the proverbial smoking gun to persuade her to do so.


  35. vlad says:

    Poor BBC, I don’t want to kick them when they’re down.

    So I’ll let Alex Belfield do it for me:

    “Told You, BBC Are Pure Evil. Close Them Down and Arrest Martin Bashir NOW”


    • Fedup2 says:

      I do wish he’d make his rants a bit more concise ..


      • vlad says:

        By his standards, this one is fairly concise.

        He’s angry too: 7 minutes of anti-BBC vitriol.



  36. Nibor says:

    After the Diannagate is passed on let’s attack them , the BBC , and I mean attack because it’s what they deserve, on the bleachgate affair , where they still continue to lie about President Trump .


  37. G.W.F. says:

    Over to Boris and his Tory majority for a response to the Dyson Report on the BBC.


  38. Sluff says:

    Could the BBC get Bashir to investigate the BBC’s proud track record of anti-semitism?
    Or must we put up forever with Jeremy Bowen’s one-sided reports and yet another close up of a child being pulled out of the rubble in Gaza while mysteriously we are never shown the analogous close ups of the indiscriminate rocket launches from the very same suburbs?


  39. Sluff says:

    ‘Sir Keir Starmer. As a former lawyer and Director of Public Prosecutions, do you think Martin Bashir or the BBC have committed any criminal acts and if so would their prosecution be in the Labour Party, sorry I mean BBC, sorry I mean the national interest?’

    I wonder if anyone will ask?


    • Guest Who says:

      As likely as anyone at the BBc pondering the capabilities of recent inductees to the House of Lords based on track records.

      Especially Labour ones. Who haunt BBC green rooms.

      Eh, Tony, Shami….?


  40. richard D says:

    Around 7 am this morning, Amol Rajan was allowed to pontificate about the Bashir/BBC ‘scandal’ on the ‘Today’ programme. The condescending and dismissive tone of his little monologue was an example to us all of how arrogant the BBC has become. It was a typical attempt to move the narrative on, beause this all happened 25 years ago don’tcha know, and we have better things to do than let any criticism of the BBC take hold for any length of time.

    About an hour later, when Charles Moore made similar points about Rajan’s demeanour and crass attempt at expunging the incident from history, Nick Robinson was very quick to argue that Rajan wasn’t there to defend himself, so should not be criticised. Hilarious – I guess the Beeboids will regularly pull that one out of the bag when the likes of Kuenssberg vehemently kick off with personal attacks on Boris Johnson, for instance, ‘because he’s noit there to defend himself’ …..yeah, right – other one, bells on!!!

    Then we had Hilary Mantel on to promote her latest epistle (no advertising on BBC, remember) – a play about life in England in the Henry VIII/Cromwell times. Ably abetted by Nick Robinson, within a few minutes of the interview starting, this known ‘Remainer’ was guided by Robinson to draw parallels with current times, and went off on one about Boris Johnson and the Brexit process. No comment was afforded by Nick Robinson about this transgression, ‘as he’s not here to defend himself’…. and so her tirade was left unchallenged. She did not have her airtime truncated by the BBC, as they did to Charles Moore, for instance,who was discussing a far more important matter (as pointed out by Fedup2 above).

    Then there was the hilarious attempt to just ‘blow by’ the Bashir affair by Mishal Hussain, where she explained that the BBC (note the inherent distancing of herself from her employer) had been asked to comment on the Bashir scandal, but ‘there was no-one available from the BBC’ to come on to the programme to face the music. They’ve had 26 years to prepare for this but no-one was availabe in the whole building from which she was probably broadcasting ….. black hole stuff. It’s time to get the ‘Balen Report’ into the public domain!

    The BBC is trying to resume ‘normal service’ as quickly as possible. Somehow I don’t see this scandal being dragged out by the BBC to the lengths which it would masticate anything similar happening in other media outlets (cf. the reporting of the ‘News of the World’ saga by the Beeb).


    • digg says:

      I also note on the BBC website story, apart from the carefully crafted headline link

      “What is the Diana interview row all about”

      Kinda hinting that it’s just a storm in a teacup sort of thing.

      The entire what they list as an “explainer” story refers to the BBC “say” and the BBC “were asked” etc. as if it was a person in it’s own right done this way I would think because no-one there wants to stick their heads above the parapet on this one!

      I am waiting to see how long it takes for the mystery BBC person to bury this story.

      Sort of puts the stupid BBC “wallpaper” witch-hunt into perspective though!


  41. Sluff says:

    Has anyone else noticed how remarkably few ( none?) Have Your Say opportunities there are on the BBC news webshite today.
    I guess it must be because the BBC has concluded there is nothing In the news that the public may have views about.


    • StewGreen says:

      @Sluff I’ll check on the HYS checker website
      … Oh it’s still not working

      OK The BBC HYS page

      Hangon something weird it’s been changed to “Your Coronavirus Stories”
      and none of them seem to have HYS


      • StewGreen says:

        Lets have a look at the official BBC HYS Twitter feed
        where you can see what their agendas are


        • vlad says:

          I wonder if she’s from Bolton, where they don’t seem very good at ‘fighting Coronavirus’.


        • Banania says:

          Thank heavens we have a lot of moslems here to defend us from the virus!


    • StewGreen says:

      So @Sluff it’s looking like thy switched off all HYS
      as if they fear a backlash from the Bashir story.

      Someone noticed last night


  42. s.trubble says:

    The next turn in this will be very interesting.

    e.g.Was this a “maverick” going after the scoop or was it a malicious plot with many bBC actors to undermine the monarchy.

    Watching them trying to regain control of this narrative could be fun although having survived Savile they are some slippery operators.


  43. Nibor says:

    BBC interview;

    So Mr [ right wing politician- libertarian- historian – anybody the BBC- liberal/left don’t like ] twenty five years ago you said something embarrassing/ got a conviction/ were seen with –

    Two faced or what ?


  44. Guest Who says:

    Springster has RTd this from a BBC colleague.

    Next, JezBo RTing his mate in Gaza on… er… stuff.


    • Guest Who says:

      The cause…. leads to an effect.


      • Doublethinker says:

        If 500 people a day are refusing to pay the License Fee it equates to an annual loss to the BBC of £25 million. They probably pay that much for fresh flowers. We need the 500 to become 5000 a day to build the momentum necessary to bring them to their knees .


  45. Guest Who says:

    BBC finds HRC lookalike to try and steer us to the hugely successful way the Americans do stuff.


    • Fedup2 says:

      A face for Radio . Her ignorance of events from the last corrupt parliament is pretty damning – an undemocratic bunch – many of whom are now thankfully in their political graves –
      who connived at frustrating the will of the voters by any and all means .
      It’s too late for Blighty to have a written constitution – we should instead get away from the Human Rights Acts and those Equality Acts so loved of socialists …


  46. Emmanuel Goldstein says:

    There’s only one way to clear up this bbbc/bashir/Diana ‘spat’

    Get someone completely neutral and fair (Chakrabarti) to hold a full enquiry and then, when the bbbc is found to have acted correctly (or at worst, got it ‘just about right’ ) they should put it out to a public vote and only then, once all the results from the ‘Dominium’ vote counting machines have returned the result that the bbbc is completely innocent, can we be sure that our nation’s favourite is once again our benign ‘Auntie’.


    • vlad says:

      She morphed, long ago, from Auntie to Wicked Witch.


      • Ian Rushlow says:

        They used to burn witches in the old days. But we are more enlightened now, so will settle for it simply being scrapped.


  47. Guest Who says:

    Springster involved in this too?


  48. vlad says:

    Come on Boris, now is the time to smite the Evil Empire.

    The people are red-pilled like never before, so grab your lightsaber (no, Boris, not that one) and slash away.

    Or – being a classicist – you might prefer, like Hercules, to grasp your golden sword (no, not that one either) and slay the evil Hydra.

    She lived in a stinking swamp, appropriately.

    Time to man up, Bojo.


  49. Guest Who says:

    Safely bent set of loose lips leaking like a sieve?

    As dubious a substantiated basis as is possible to laugh at.

    Good try, guys.


    • vlad says:

      We can expect the BBC to use all sorts of proxies to deflect, divert, dismiss, deny, disclaim, disprove, distract, discredit, disavow, digress, disinform and diminish damage.

      Heck, they’ve had decades of practice in the dark arts.


      • Guest Who says:

        Springster now RTs Huw, who is ‘vexed’. Slightly.


        • Ian Rushlow says:

          I am a Senior Executive in the BBC (Charterhouse, followed by PPE at Balliol), but because of my position I have to remain anonymous. I have been absent from this website for a couple of months because I have been transitioning and my personal pronoun is now ‘hir’.

          The accusations against the BBC are vaguely disconcerting and I spent yesterday evening discussing them with some colleagues during an excellent meal at The Ivy restaurant, which we will claim on expenses. The conclusion we reached is that this was a failure of management from the top downwards; however, lessons will be learned. Specifically, we need a lot more management from the top downwards, to ensure that the highest journalistic standards can be rigoursly maintained within the BBC. This can only be done if the BBC is suitably financed and my colleagues agree that the best way of doing this is through the TV License fee. At just 43p per day it represents truly excellent value, and even if doubled next year as we modestly propose will still only be 86p a day. We also plan to improve diversity by removing all White people from the BBC, with the obvious exception of people such as myself of course.

          Does anyone know if Italy is on the Amber list? I haven’t visited my villa in Tuscany for a long time.

          Yours deceptively etc.


  50. StewGreen says:

    Andrew Neil in the Mail

    But far more important to Diana than any bank statements were what Bashir told her at that first meeting. As recorded in her brother’s contemporaneous notes of the encounter, Bashir said that her car was being constantly tracked, her phones tapped and senior figures in the royal court were determined to do her down. Even her bodyguards were plotting against her.

    Charles Spencer concluded Bashir was a liar and/or a fantasist and had no more to do with him.

    But Diana was taken in. Bashir had played on her growing paranoia that somehow the British ‘Establishment’ was out to get her, at worst plotting her death and at best arranging enforced exile in America. And here was a reporter from the BBC’s flagship Panorama programme telling her it was all true.



    • StewGreen says:

      How are you going to answer Andrew Neil , Top Labour twitter Account ?
      …by talking about the arguments .. or by smearing the speaker ?

      Her next tweet complains he has blocked her
      There seem to be 20 other Labour accounts smearing Neil in a similar way.


      • Peter Grimes says:

        The provocative/sarcastic ‘you’re welcome’ is the clue to the online Leftoid troll. Neil did the correct thing in blocking her. Anyone who distorts images (in the very same way that the Nazis did to Jews in the 1930’s and Leftoids and Arab fundamentalists do today) is not taking part in a debate, they aren’t worth a response.
        I hope that Neil reported her to TWATter, not that they will do anything about reptiles like her.