Midweek Thread 30 June 2021

Seems like the mythical TV detector vans are going to resume targeting the over 75s who haven’t got a TV Licence . The BBC is happy to induce fear in the elderly when it suits them .Remember – TV Licence inspectors have no additional powers compared to any citizen .

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  1. Emmanuel Goldstein says:

    Michelle Dewbury has been talking to various people about covid on GB News tonight and the masks got a mention as being not much good.

    Think about this.
    If you have a mask on and somebody is smoking nearby you will be able to smell the smoke.
    I googled particle sizes and in layman’s terms, if a smoke particle is imagined as the size of a football then the covid particle would be the size of a ping pong ball. This is to compare the relative sizes so that we can understand how effective the masks are.
    Thousands of covids can get through the mask where one smoke particle can get through.

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    • Fedup2 says:

      EG
      I think it’s the psychological effect as much as anything . Masks might stop a few bacteria but viruses are tiny critters and will pass through .
      I’m a disciple of ventilation and distancing ; however my BSC in microbiology remained as big unopened text books

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    • Sluff says:

      I stand to be corrected but ‘particles’ which by definition however small are solid, so usually have a low vapour pressure and hence on the whole do not smell. Cigarette smoke contains both solid particles and a lot of quite complex organic molecules which are not solid particles and it is these which certainly can be smelled.
      Then there is the concept of ‘smell threshold’. I do not understand exactly why but smell and hazard are not always closely linked. The beauty of ‘bad egg gas’ ie H2S , is that it can be smelled at very low concentration levels, way below the inherent danger level. True for many homologous mercaptans. Acrylonitrile on the other hand is much more dangerous because it is above the hazard level BEFORE you can smell it, so by the time you can smell it, it is too late.

      So cigarette smoke smell and effective covid barriers is not a straight read across.
      That said, the generalisations about masks do often indeed bear little resemblance to both risk and the perception of it. Whitty advised us against using them for many weeks, about a year ago.

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      • Fedup2 says:

        Sluff

        Your line

        “so by the time you can smell it, it is too late.”

        Might have upset many a ‘relationship ‘ – some might say..

        More seriously – I couldn’t understand the thinking about saying ‘masks are no good ‘ which was the message at the start . Even if true – saying masks are ‘good ‘ might have reduced the mental issues amongst some people .
        Every country seems to signed up to the ‘mask is good ‘ doctrine since then ….

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      • Grumbler says:

        An interesting thing about hydrogen sulphide is that you can’t smell it when it reaches dangerous levels.

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    • StewGreen says:

      Of course virus can get through masks
      it’s like trying to stop a marble with a trawler net
      However
      One it’s argued that when you cough the virus particles get a free ride on a wave of water droplets, and the mask breaks the water droplets so they don’t travel as far
      #2 Mask inhibit you from coughing so you don’t cough over anyone

      The other day we were sat down and so not wearing masks
      and my friend accidentally coughed in the vicinity of my biscuit

      .. I didn’t waste the biscuit.

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  2. taffman says:

    Who says that Al Beeb is not agenda driven ? What is OfCom for ? Why doesn’t our so called, Tory “Secretary of State for Digital, Culture, Media and Sport” grow some b@lls and take a stand for Great Britain’s culture and challenge all the Wokies who are a small group that do not represent the ordinary working man?

    He needs to visit a British pub and hear what is said there about all this dismantling of our language, standards, heritage and culture .
    Are the Tories real Tories ?

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  3. smoogie7 says:

    How will the BBC report on the result in the next byelection?

    There is a choice of supporting the LGBT supporting Labour or Islam supported Workers Party headed by Galloway.

    Not so easy now that it is clearly apparent that the left are split and Labour’s attempt to please all minorities has backfired!

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Smoog

      I was thinking that me self

      1 tories punished for Hancock
      2 tories win because of brexit , footy ,vaccines
      3 tories win because lefty vote split
      4 tories win – it was fixed

      5 Labour win – local girl sister killed
      6 Labour win – Starmer is the future
      7 Labour win – usual fraud

      8 someone else wins ‘it’s a one off
      9 someone else wins its anti queers
      10 someone else wins – dirty tricks

      A decided on local issues
      B governments always lose bi elections
      C campaign was better than others
      D dirty campaign
      E doesn’t mean anything – seat gone in 4 years

      If Labour do really badly again – challenge to starmer – BBC over the moon as Corbyn disciple wins leadership .

      What you reckon ?

      Oh yeah – low / high turnout affected the result

      Oh yes – if Labour don’t win it – it won’t be reported at all – look squirrels that can surf – animals in the zoo getting ice baths ..….

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      • smoogie7 says:

        If the Tories win then it brings their seat count back to what they had at the GE. Governments usually can lose seats so to be back at that number must be annoying for the left considering that Labour are down five seats since the GE which was a very poor result from them anyway.

        How can anyone claim that Labour are on the up when they are down by another five seats?

        I am not sure about Galloway myself. He is a pro union and supporter of Brexit but he is also mates with Corbyn and sympathises with the communists.

        If he damages Labour then that is good but hopefully he does not get too ahead of himself.

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  4. BRISSLES says:

    I don’t belieeeeeeve it ! Just seen an ad that says a packet of rice is going to be more diverse ! No longer called Uncle Ben’s with a head of some description alongside, but will in future be called Ben’s Rice – with no picture. Um, do we still have Aunt Bessie’s yorkshire puds ????

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Bris
      No it will be called

      ‘family member Elizabeth’s regional puddings ‘

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    • digg says:

      It’s getting more and more like a Monty Python sketch every day Brissles.

      Sooner or later that big foot will smash down.

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    • JimS says:

      Uncle Ben used to be the worker, then he became the farmer, in reality he is a slave of the Mar’s family, along with Wrigley’s, Pedigree, Twix etc.

      Aunt Bessie is a co-worker with Captain Birds Eye and Findus.

      All of which goes to show that if you switch brands you will probably end up buying from the same company!

      Bit like politics really.

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    • tomo says:

      Levi Roots ‘mon

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  5. StewGreen says:

    IEA weekly Podcast
    .. https://youtu.be/2MfNhBAnNaM

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  6. StewGreen says:

    Normally WUWT covers only Global Warming
    but of the current 20 stories I spot some of interest
    as they are about the BBC or british elites being given a free pass on Covid rules etc.
    https://wattsupwiththat.com/

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  7. tipple says:

    Not BBC but it is analysing media propaganda with regards to Covid. I bought the book and it’s an eye opener for sure. Highly recommended.

    https://off-guardian.org/2021/06/29/pseudopandemic/

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    • taffman says:

      Nice one !
      You new to this site?

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      • tipple says:

        Ha, ha taffman. No. sixteen years but mostly watching.

        Thought other people here would like that site as I only found a link to it the other day and it seemed the people there have a similar mindset to the people here.

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        • taffman says:

          tipple
          Much longer than me!
          Most people in Great Britain have the same mindset as the people here.
          The great British People are as per usual, we are ‘lions led by donkeys’. I am sure that they would all agree.

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          • tipple says:

            Seen a lot of people come and go. But they are all in the above archive.

            I originally used ‘barker john’ as my ID but after a nasty argument with the forever drunk ‘Martin’ I walked away for a while to rejuvenate into tipple.

            Agreed, Johnson is by far the biggest donkey we have had as a leader but maybe he isn’t, he’s just an evil liar involved with the GPPP (Global Public Private Partnership) our NWO.

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            • Fedup2 says:

              Respect – tipple – as i believe they say on the Street – innit

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  8. vlad says:

    Naturally the Biden Broadcasting Corporation aren’t reporting the fact that the NY mayoral election has collapsed into complete farce because the vote counting system is such a mess.

    Funny, I thought the US electoral system was above reproach.

    Article and vid:

    https://nypost.com/2021/06/29/eric-adams-narrowly-edges-garcia-in-preliminary-ranked-choice-results-boe/

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    • vlad says:

      Note that once again it’s Sky Aus reporting the news that networks like the BBC avoid.

      I would like GB News to be more like them. Instead of trying to be ‘balanced’ and ‘fair’ and ‘centrist’, I would like to see an all-out partisan, crusading conservative channel bashing the liberal-left at every opportunity.

      Gloves off, we’re at war.

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  9. Londoner says:

    Totally agree Vlad. I sometimes get the impression that GB News is trying to outliberal the liberals, maybe in case they get accused of bias. What with that and their rather poor presentation so far I wonder whether they’ll survive.

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Londoner – I tried it – it still has time – and needs to prove it by dealing with a big event . However it seems like rolling ‘good morning itv ‘ style stuff and I can be asked with that .

      If Brillo stays away I reckon it will be gone by the end of 2021. It has to be of the Right or not at all – and risk a slap from OFCOM .

      And Dewbury ? Amateur hour .

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  10. Guest Who says:

    Via the medium of…. Dance!

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  11. taffman says:

    “Bank of England’s Andy Haldane voices 4% inflation fear”
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-57670734
    But we also get this ……………………..
    \\Andy Haldane was speaking less than a week after the Bank’s Monetary Policy Committee (MPC) dismissed the rise in inflation as “transitory”.//
    What is he doing about it and why is he leaving ?
    Ever since the Carney/Brexit propaganda, I don’t trust the b@st@rds any more.
    Any financial experts here care to comment ?

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  12. LastChanceSaloon says:

    Wimbledon report as of now.
    “Watch and listen” RHS vertical column.
    From the top ..
    #1 “Tearful Williams ..”
    The Wiliams who hid from the drug testers.
    The Williams who threatened to “shove the ball down your F*****g throat” at the US open.
    Twice.

    # 2 “Gauff [Blackfrican] comfortably ..”
    Her pretty, white, British, opponent, apparently umworthy of a headline.

    #3 “Barty ..”
    Aborigine.

    #4 Evans, white, male, British, victorious.
    Prediction, this will be gone by dawn.

    #5 “Watch Monfils …”
    Blackfrican.

    #6 “…..”
    Tiafoe – Blackfrican.

    #7 Murray.

    Elsewhere on The WHBC [White Hating Boadcasting Corporation] tennis report.
    #”Kyrgios … [Basset’s ancestry]”
    The world’s heaviest chip carrier, wins to the delight of the WHBC.

    “Dominant Jabeur defeats Venus Wiliams ..”
    Problem for the WHBC, a Muzzie beats a Blackfrican.

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  13. tomo says:

    One wonders how the BBC will portray this policy … – it’s sure to cause some serious ructions…..

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Tomo – just like labour councils dropping housing estates in the constituencies of the few remaining red tory MPs in Londonistan .

      Very effective . And they get round the fecklessness by industrial level postal voting to fix the numbers .

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  14. JimS says:

    The death of Donald Rumsfeld is announced, the BBC says:

    One of his most memorable moments came in 2002 when he was asked about the lack of evidence for Iraqi weapons of mass destruction. He gave a much-mocked answer about “known knowns” and “known unknowns”.

    Much-mocked by morons.

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    • taffman says:

      JimS
      What about Bliar & Campbell?

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    • tomo says:

      I’ll remember Rumsfeldt for having a hand in flogging Tamiflu to the Public ‘Elfs a few years back.

      https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/donald-rumsfeld-makes-5m-killing-bird-flu-drug-6106843.html

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    • JohnC says:

      ‘known unknowns’ is called ‘risk management’ and is vital in any project.
      The BBC have no risk : their salaries and pensions are guaranteed however disastrous the consequences of their actions.

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      • JimS says:

        At least someone gets it!

        There is the stuff that we know about and the stuff that we don’t.

        Unfortunately we often find that that we don’t know everything about the stuff we thought we knew everything about and there are inevitably more unkown things hidden among the things that we know we don’t know anything about.

        This is the four-state world of the engineer.

        The BBC occupies that rare one-state region where they get everything ‘just about right’.

        Not only was Rumsfeldt remarkable as a politician for knowing about the four-state world but he was able to say so without making a mistake, so being a Republican he was mocked. Biden, a Democrat, who doesn’t even know who is POTUS gets a free pass!

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        • JohnC says:

          I heard a classic ‘management’ statement from a very senior BAe manager when I worked there:
          ‘A risk identified is no longer a risk’.
          I also remember the project mangement team shuffling things on a timeline and declaring they had saved the company a million quid and deserved a percentage of it. Of course when engineers and the real-world took over, their plans all went down the toilet and it overran by 18 months. But most of them had moved on to the next ‘new thing’ by then.

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        • Fedup2 says:

          Pity his post war planning was crap

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  15. vlad says:

    The BBC are delighted to announce that Bill Cosby’s conviction has been overturned. (On some technicality and despite the accusations of dozens of women.)

    I always knew he was innocent, just like George Floyd was, just like OJ Simpson, and Martin Luther King (look it up).

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-57671012

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    • Guest Who says:

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      • Fedup2 says:

        Better get the fact checker on that one – although she’s probably busy on the selfie’s and victim gig …

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    • JohnC says:

      Apparently Luther-King walked in on a man raping a woman. His reaction was to give him some encouragement.
      https://www.businessinsider.com/fbi-tapes-allege-mlk-watched-rape-2019-5
      One of the reasons I detest the utter hypocrites who make him out to be a great man. He would be vilified and cancelled in the most brutal manner if he were white.

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      • vlad says:

        Oh but there’s much more, and much worse, than that.
        Not easily findable, of course, as it’s systematically suppressed.
        But it’s out there.

        For his sake, it must be hoped he continues to be judged by the colour of his skin, and not by the content of his character.

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        • JohnC says:

          Another one for the BBC fact-checking team ?.
          Perhaps the finest achievement of MLK is setting us all an example we can use to judge the incredible magnitude of the hypocrisy of the left when it suits them.

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  16. pugnazious says:

    So…Brexit is to blame for the shortage of lorry drivers…isn’t it? Odd then that even in America there is a shortage of drivers and difficulty getting things delivered….odd that there are actually 5.6 million EU citizens registering for citizenship…at least 2 million more than expected…and probably a lot more out there somewhere….if we’re short of EU national workers because they’ve all gone home due to Brexit and we have 5.6 million here now just how many were here before Brexit? And who was clearly lying to us? Odd that this driver says it’s not Brexit but pay and conditions [and EU drivers can now get paid the same back home where prices are also lower]….

    It was the same with the shipping crisis…shortage of shipping and containers all over the world…and yet the BBC tried to blame Brexit.

    Why is it you can get more truth, honesty and accuracy from a trucker in his cab than from the supposedly most trusted news organisation in Britain with billions to spend on its propaganda?

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    • JohnC says:

      The shortages of Labour everywhere are because people have got used to free money while they stay at home. Now they have a few grand of borrowed taxpayers money in the bank and won’t go back to work until they have spent it.
      80% furlough was absolute madness. New they have launched hundreds of thousands of investigations into companies fraudulently claiming it. How much is that costing ?.
      Everyone seems to be carrying on as if nothing happened. There surely must be a huge price to pay for this amount of debt ?. Otherwise all those communist countries would not have collapsed.

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    • Nibor says:

      Pug ,

      There was this same crisis about lorry driver shortage 18 years ago .
      The BBC did a two part programme about it . I heard ordinary people unconnected with transport discussing it .

      How did the government then counter the problem ?

      By importing cheap labour from abroad -the answer to everything this cheap foreign labour junkie country has due to our Powers That Be .
      So that reduced the wages for everyone all round , making spending £3000 to getting an HGV licence not worth it . [ but foreign HGV licences are much cheaper – and not up to our standards ] .
      Then there are the CPC courses that have to be taken and paid for every five years – making it not worth the hassle for the huge amount of semi retired drivers who work every now and then for pin money but really help out firms .
      And the CONSERVATIVE government , the party of low taxation it says , decided to TAX drivers night out allowance – reducing their wages .

      Now what are the trade organisations like the Road Haulage Association , the Freight Transport Association et al asking the government to do ?

      Bring in foreign labour .

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  17. JohnC says:

    Trump Organization expected to be charged with tax crimes
    https://www.bbc.com/news/business-57669976
    Everything about this article – from the prosecution to the BBC report disgust me beyond words.
    ‘Charges by District Attorney Cyrus Vance on Thursday are expected to focus on whether Mr Weisselberg and other company executives received benefits such as apartment rentals or leased cars without reporting them properly on their tax returns.’. OK – undeclared benefits but not exactly fraud or embezzlement. In the scheme of company corruption, very low on the scale.
    The BBC tell us twice that New York City have severed ties with the company. Such good propaganda they named it twice.
    One reads: ‘New York City has already cut business ties with the twice-impeached former president.’
    What has ‘twice impeached’ got to do with it ?. What about the fact he was voted not guilty for both ?. Painfully obvious attempt to lead the reader to think ‘Trump bad’.
    ‘Daniel Goldman, who was lead lawyer in the US House of Representatives for the first impeachment of Mr Trump in 2019, tweeted that the indictment could spur lenders to call in their loans, driving the Trump Organization to bankruptcy.’. There it is. The singular aim is to try and ruin Trump.
    This has been going on since 2016 as an attempt to smear Trump during the election campaign. What a shame the BBC do not hazard a guess as to how much it has cost and who is paying for this political vendetta.

    Going after an employee for not declaring benefits in kind in a hope investors will call in loans and Trump will have to declare bankruptcy. I struggle to imagine something more desperate or devoid of any sense of morality or shame than that.

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    • AWOL says:

      Sling enough mud, enough times in the hope that some one item will stick. A common tactic for the SCbbc.

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  18. Foscari says:

    How long before BIG BROTHER at the diversity department
    at the BBC decides to “cancel” Wimbledon for being too
    white?
    For Christ’s sake the BBC can’t even put on woke virtue signalling
    adverts between the games to compensate
    for this !!

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    • Northern Voter says:

      But, they did. Listening this afternoon, the All England woke club announced they had given a large number of tickets to the Royal box to climate change people. Wait till it does change and rains!

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  19. Guest Who says:

    Certainly for media support.

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  20. Guest Who says:

    BBC Moaning Emole

    ‘Avoid your pets if you have Covid’

    “If you have Covid, you should avoid contact with your cat or dog, just as you would do with other people,” says Dr Els Broens, from Utrecht University. This is because research suggests coronavirus is common in pet cats and dogs whose owners have the disease. The study found six cats and seven dogs returned positive PCR results and 54 animals tested positive for virus antibodies from 310 pets tested in households where a human infection had been detected. Most infected pets tend to be asymptomatic or display mild Covid symptoms and researchers say it’s most likely that people have passed the virus on the animals rather than the other way round. The worry is the potential risk “pets could act as a reservoir of the virus and reintroduce it into the human population,” Dr Broens says.

    ***
    Uh huh.

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    • Grumbler says:

      Just signed the death warrants for thousands of pets.

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      • Guest Who says:

        Certainly plonked out there with zero context or consequence awareness.

        As anyone who has a pet will appreciate.

        Maybe BBC CCP will team up with BBC Rowlatt to extol the benefits of eating your dog, cat or pet bat Polly for the 100 year celebrations (don’t mention that Square thing or the Olympics the BBC had to be at).

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  21. Guest Who says:

    June Sarpong sees this and heads will roll.

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  22. Guest Who says:

    BBC HR surely can create a new editorial role?

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  23. Fedup2 says:

    Tricky news agenda for the traitors in the BBC today

    Nissan announces it is pulling out of UK because of Brexit -as it promised . Oh – hang on a minute – the truth – reality is that Nissan is opening a huge factory in Sunderland . The droid reporting this managed a negative spin – well done you – by saying the Germans have ten times more of something than blighty . The BBC loves Germany . Heritage of national socialism ?

    Another one – bad news – a whitee wins a game at Wimbledon – but it’s ok because he is on the BBC approved list because he is Scottish and hates England

    Next – an American coloured man – wrongly convicted of a number of sex crimes – is free – because of a prosecution ‘deal’ .this coloured chap was a big star – who the BBC liked – but it doesn’t know the angle to take because of his female rape victims – but he didn’t do them – although the did .

    The problem of applying a judgement propaganda to every thing is that it often comes back to bite . Good .

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  24. taffman says:

    Al Beeb …………….“Nissan announces major UK electric car expansion”

    No ‘despite Brexit’ ?

    Is it featured under Al Beeb’s news website under the “Brexit” heading ?

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  25. Fedup2 says:

    Labour Party calls for cold air to be sent to help Canada . There may be an airlift by the RAF in a mercy dash .

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    • Up2snuff says:

      Fed, Labour, just like their BBC associates, are quite good at pouring cold water on things.

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  26. JohnC says:

    Donald Rumsfeld: Ex-US defence secretary dies aged 88
    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-57674117
    Just reading this to see what the BBC wrote.
    I was not disappointed. What a sneering, unpleasant ‘tribute’ it is.
    Virtually the whole article is about telling us how wrong the war in Iraq was. They tell us 3 times that no WMD was found and point out how Iraq was not involved in 9-11. Nothing at all to do with the article topic.
    It is absolutely not the place of the BBC to use obituaries for political points-scoring.
    Clearly it was written by another spiteful wokerati who is just brimming with hate. An entirely inappropriate place to vent it.

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    • Up2snuff says:

      Did the BBC’s poster boy – Tony Blair – get a mention, John? It was Blair who helped jolly that Gulf 2 thing along.

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  27. Up2snuff says:

    TOADY Watch #1 – in which Justin interviews a Doctor who does not inspire confidence

    I am now wondering whether the TOADY programme has been ‘spoofed’ again? The TOADY Editors have fallen for fake stories in the past, so addicted are they to having ‘stories’ come to them or be brought to them. There was a brief interview with a Doctor who is calling for more to be done for Covid by increasing the list of Covid symptoms in the half hour, I think, before 7 a.m..

    This doctor waffled briefly about symptoms that are already known as Covid symptoms and seemed to want to expand the list with commonplace symptoms for viral infections like colds, influenza and Covid. The thought immediately occurs that ‘snowflakes’ will experience one or two of these symptoms and immediately call 111 or rush off to their GP. The GP then gets them a PCR or LF Covid test, neither of which are very accurate.

    More GP time gets wasted and people with cancers and heart problems and other much more serious complaints and symptoms are prevented from getting their GP’s attention.

    False positive, and the patient becomes a statistic and an isolator and a possible cause of other isolations. False negative and the GP says “Go away” and the person then passes on their virus (possibly a non-serious common one) to someone else, who uses the expanded checklist and … you guessed …. the cycle repeats.

    It was a very short interview with Dr Alan Crosier (think I got the name right) – no really tough, penetrating, questions were asked – and there is nothing on the BBC web-site. I conclude the Beeb were caught out by a spoof.

    Time for Marianna to spring into action ….. ?

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    • Scroblene says:

      I wonder whether ‘itchy-arse’ is a symptom of the covids?

      If it isn’t now, it soon will be if albeeb have anything to say on the matter…

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      • Up2snuff says:

        Scrobie, you do wonder don’t you. I remember, decades ago, during one of our winters of discontent and industrial strife, that Britons were accused of being ‘work-shy’. It was an unfair charge then but that didn’t stop it being levelled by several people at home and and abroad.

        It strikes me that we have now become, as a nation, what we were unfairly or inaccurately accused of in the 1960s and 1970s: ‘work shy’. Many people in the UK have now had 15/16 months away from work. What do they want to do most of all when restrictions are lifted, according to the Beeb?

        Go on holiday!

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        • Scroblene says:

          I’ve never understood why people consider a holiday a neccesity!

          Yes, they were great fun when the kids were small, and the sea and surf beckoned, but surely it’s not a ‘right’ these days?

          We’re having a stair lift fitted today, so we’ll have just as much fun going up and down stairs several times, instead of going all the way down to Lynmouth, much as we really did love that particular place…

          (Historical note – I knew the engineer who got the harbour back in order, Charles Dobbie, very well. Of course the OBE went to the County Engineer, not the guy who made it all happen)!

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          • Up2snuff says:

            An update to TOADY Watch #1 that is almost a Web-Site Watch

            https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-57681869
            The BBC may be reading this site – they have now added an article – see link above about the ‘Scientists’ call for expanded list of symptoms’. I got Dr Crozier’s name wrong and his first name is Alex not Alan.

            On TWatO today they had an interesting contribution from a Doctor or Professor who thinks who thinks that we need to get back to ‘normal’ and treat Covid like the cold and influenza it is quite close to. I expect he may be getting some disapproval via texts from Ferguson, Whitty and Vallance and all the others who think we need to stay Covid prisoners.

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          • Up2snuff says:

            Scrobie, the Dorset coast is lovely and not so far for you to travel. 😉

            However, as you insist, an excerpt from East Lyn(ne): “Gone! Gone! And never called me mother!!”

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  28. tomo says:

    The Fauci timeline = CYA

    Evasiveness and more ….

    What did he know and when did he / they know it

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  29. AsISeeIt says:

    As the dour Scots grumbler Private Fazer would habitually complain “Wur all doomed, doomed, I tell ee, doomed

    Judging by the frontpages of our more left-leaning newspapers, paranoid fear of infection has become the dread obsession uppermost in the minds of the left at present.

    The hysteria is palpable: ‘Fears over mass events after 1,300 travelling Scotland fans get covid‘ (Guardian)

    Fellow travellers, the BBC, up the stakes: ‘Football linked to 2,000 Scottish Covid cases‘ – in the immortal words of Michael Winner, director of the movie Death Wish (1974): ‘Calm down, dear

    No one ever died of a “case”

    The message from the Guardian is abundantly clear this morning as they find a Sage subcommittee member, no less, to tell us the danger is still with us and we must believe the opposite of what our lying eyes are telling us: ‘…as the vaccination programme continues to weaken the link between hospitalisations and deaths‘ – but Prof Stephen Reicher (Professor of Social Psychology at the University of St Andrews) snidely asks: ‘Will the Euros be “eat out to help out” on steroids? By opening games to 60,000 fans they send a message the danger has gone‘ – and we can’t be having that, can we Prof? And you sir, coincidentally seem to send a message that would appeal nicely to Scots rather irked that they got tipped out of the tournament in the group stage.

    I’m not sure that reference to the unnecessary health damaging drug steroids as used in sports cheating was a wise metaphor, Prof?

    If covid don’t kill us then global warming will: ‘Climate crisis blamed for deadly “heat dome”‘ (Guardian again) – deadly means it kills, by the way. ‘The US President, Joe Biden…‘ full titular honours and respect delivered there, we note: ‘…has pointed the finger at the climate crisis as western Canada and north-western states of the US suffer under a record-shattering “heat doom”‘ – sorry “dome“. ‘That has led to more than 100 deaths‘ – of the elderly and vulnerable I’m guessing?

    We can’t really do much about the weather but we’re certainly vaccinating like crazy for the virus.

    Booster jabs for all over-50s. 32 million people will receive third vaccine doses on the NHS this autumn in attempt to avoid fourth lockdown‘ (‘i’) – implying perhaps that the attempt is likely to fall short?

    Get Covid and flu jab in each arm from autumn… all over-50s urged to “protect freedom” and have September booster vaccines‘ (Times)

    OK, so we’ll all have arms like pin cushions – that’s all good right? Surely the Guardian tendency is happy about that?

    Not so much: ‘GPs giving out second jabs after only three weeks‘ – so what’s the problem here? Have the Guardian been investigating the unpublicised side-effects, or looking into big pharmas’ manipulation and profits, maybe highlighting NHS GPs over-keen to pocket their jab premiums?

    Of course the Guardian are not worried about any potential adverse effects on our health: ‘The roll-out of second doses nine weeks earlier than official guidence – as well as instances of vaccines distributed to 16- and 17-year-olds – in some areas – has prompted concern over a postcode lottery’ – it’s social justice, innit doh?

    If Dad’s Army’s Private Frazer might be emblamatic of the Scots (actor John Laurie played Jamy, the Scottish Captain in the English army in Laurence Olivier’s 1944 movie Henry V – not a lot of people know that) then various of Michael Caine’s film roles could perhaps be somehow emblematic of Englishness?

    Setting aside news of impending armageddon via the dual biblical plagues of searing heat and deadly pestulance – our popular press concern themselves instaed with the football: ‘My name is Harry Caine… and we’re going to do an Italian job on Ukraine

    From one Harry Kane to another Harry Windsor…

    And the ongoing upmarket Imperial Leather of a soap opera that is the Crown: ‘Heal the rift for Diana’s sake, Harry‘ (Daily Express)

    Back to injections for our And Finally… and no, it’s not the bonkers Guardian wearing that dreadful sandwichboard and marching up and down the high street yelling at us that the end is nigh.

    Trypanophobia is an extreme fear of medical procedures involving injections or hypodermic needles. (You learn something every day) Children are especially afraid of needles because they’re unused to the sensation of their skin being pricked by something sharp. By the time most people reach adulthood, they can tolerate needles much more easily.

    There’s some food for thought. But now you deserve that amusing jab-related And Finally.

    The Daily Star cautions: ‘Take a deep breath before reading on…

    Bonehead celebs seeking perfection are queueing up for Botox in their, er, you know whats.. NUTS!

    Celebs are having Botox to iron out wrinkles – in their privates. At least they’ll look good in their budgie smugglers. Full story: page 14

    As I like to say – further comment would seem superfluous.

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  30. Fedup2 says:

    The BBC ‘interview ‘ of George Galloway put up by Stew earlier in this thread ( about 10 am Wednesday ) continues to be attractive on Twitter

    Watching it again – the beeboid was hyper sensitive about the accusation that the BBC is funded by taxes – in fact she more or less abandoned her attack on behalf of her Labour Party by declaring it is a ‘licence fee – not a tax ‘-

    To which George Galloway got ready to go into full attack on the BBC – and the interview ends – look squirrels – now an advert for some ethnic programme and the weather…

    I wonder if Martine croxall is a member of the Labour Party . ?

    How angry can a country get ?

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  31. Up2snuff says:

    TOADY Watch #2 – he’s not totally useless, he’s agenda setting, that Starmer chap

    And the BBC duly oblige on TOADY. As keen associates of the Labour Party they listen to their Leader’s every word, especially at Prime Ministers Questions. It’s dates not data, and Aunty is sharp enough to notice that today is the first of July.

    On this day various reliefs put in place by an over-generous PM for his over-excessive Lockdown are starting to taper away. Things such as the Stamp Duty ‘holiday’ on property sales/purchases, much loved by Beeboids wiith BTL portfolios, together with the ‘furlough’ scheme for employees. This is all piling up a huge bill of debt that will have to be paid down by future taxpayers unto the third and fourth and, probably fifth and sixth, generation.

    But no matter. Starmer wants to splash the cash and so do the BBC. They ‘find’ some vox pops of businesses who are going to have to make people redundant becuase of the evil, cruel, wicked, mean Toreeees. No mention of course that the Lockdown would have been ended last Monday had not socialist Party leaders and socialist doctors and socialist scientists insisted on dates, not the actual data that the PM wanted to drive our freedom.

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  32. Fedup2 says:

    Up2
    I wonder if today is the first of the ‘pain days ‘? When financial reality starts to kick in – leading to the closure of some businesses as rates normalisation and furlough reductions start to bite ?

    Sooner or later people will have to ‘de furlough’ – which no doubt – will have a ‘mental disorder ‘ identified by the BBC .

    I’m also surprised the BBC haven’t carried on the campaign to allow anyone with a EU passport apply first residence status – Labour wanted another 3 months dead line extension .

    I some how think we won’t have the cream of the EUs workforce …

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    • Up2snuff says:

      Fed, “Sooner or later people will have to ‘de furlough’ – which no doubt – will have a ‘mental disorder ‘ identified by the BBC .”

      And the BBC will no doubt find some young wimmin who are troubled by this de-furloughing ‘mental disorder’ and guess what, they will be young, white, probably blond haired, with immaculate make-up and large eyelashes and lips and big eyes looking sorrowfully, pleadingly or smilingly into the wideangle camera lens of their mobile phone.

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  33. dafydd says:

    Driving to work listening to Radio 5 Live..

    Great news for Sunderland and the the North East with Nissan opening new plant etc…

    My God..!!! Listening to Radio 5 Live you would think the end of the world was upon us..

    No, not well done etc but, where are you going to get the staff from, how much did the Government pay you to do it, what’s the point in investing when we don’t have enough charging points,are you really going to generate up to 6000 jobs locally.

    You really couldn’t make it up.

    The main man from Nissan was obviously exasperated by this line of questioning.

    I for one couldn’t give a rat’s arse how much the Government invested, great news for the economy and the standing of this country in the world and especially the EU..

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    • Scroblene says:

      Excellent points, Dafydd!

      Beeboids have never understood proper business investment etc., they never have to be ‘commercial’, because they get paid by the taxpayer.

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  34. Deborah says:

    Apparently, as told on the Today programme, it is ecoday or some such nonsense at Wimbledon. The petrol lawnmowers have been replaced by electric ones which are ever so much quieter. In years to come they will have to compete with all the electric cars and houses not heated with gas boilers for the available electric – but there we are.

    On Today this morning we were also told that the Met Office is predicting today, what it will be like at Wimbledon in 2050 due to climate change. If I asked the Met Office to predict the weather next year at Wimbledon and say that if they got it wrong it would cost them the value of their latest computers (or the Head of the Met Office their job), do you think they would take the challenge? But 30 years hence, all those now at the Met Office will have retired on fat salaries and won’t be able to hold them to account.

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    • Up2snuff says:

      Debs, good post.

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      • Fedup2 says:

        Perhaps unnecessary activities such as sport should be banned to reduce ‘the carbon footprint ‘ . All that travel to sporting arenas – especially the international ones .

        Other human activities could also be banned to save the planet . Entertainment isn’t a necessary activity . That could go too – together with the BBC …..

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        • Ian Rushlow says:

          Big money associated with these sporting events, so they won’t be banned. But whether people are allowed to attend them might depend on whether they’ve been good boys and girls (other genders are available. Allegedly). One of the ideas being investigated by ‘experts in sustainability’ is that of a Personal Carbon Footprint. Your lifestyle and activities would be taken into account and if within acceptable limits this would entitle you to special treats. There is a video doing the rounds in which this is explained and one of the examples of a treat, if I recall correctly, is being allowed to buy meat on your birthday. This is separate from Social Credit systems a la Red China and vaccination passports, but combine the three and you’ve got a good idea of what Building Back Better means for ordinary people.

          #TheGreatResetFlirtingWithFascismComfortableWithCommunism

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          • Fedup2 says:

            Ian
            My tongue was in cheek – I’m a capitalist – consume more – burn more – I deny the climate crap – burn that diesel

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            • Deborah says:

              When my woke friend is complaining about the cold (be it freezing winter temperatures or like now when it is a bit cool for the time of year, I suggest I need to drive my 4×4 more to help lift the temperature. It leaves her a bit tongue-tied. She cannot suggest it will make no difference, because that admits that driving it makes no difference. I think it also reminds her that she has just admitted it is cold, when like the breakfast GB news presenter on Dan Wooten (sorry don’t know her name) said that the world is ‘literally on fire’. Do these eco-warriors really believe it. I am just going to put on a pullover and yes it is early July.

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              • Scroblene says:

                Debs, I’m enjoying a glass of wine with Senora O’Blene, and it’s so hot, the door’s open, the fan is blaring away, and the sun is scorching…

                Had you driven past and called ‘Hi’, you could have popped in and be doing the same!

                I’m not sure how an electric fan can cool everything down if the wind-power packs up, but that’s a conundrum for the Harrabins of this world!

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              • Ian Rushlow says:

                Cognitive dissonance: being told that it is hot when you are shivering with cold; that men can be turned into women; that the rioting and burning are mainly peaceful; that a flimsy piece of paper on your face can save you from a dangerous disease; that 2+2 doesn’t always equal 4 (make a note, Winston Smith); is a major tool being used by the globalists and their allies. There was a reason that Trotsky urged his followers to ‘Ignore the truth!’, and that Mao denounced his opponents as basing their views on experience and reality, rather than on what Marxist-Leninist theory predicted about the world. It’s the same reason that SAGE and the other groups are stuffed with behavourial psychologists, some of whom share the views of Trotsky and Mao.

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            • G.W.F. says:

              I have just cut the hedges and shrubs in my garden using a battery powered electric hedge trimmer. I hope anyone thinking of complaining about my massive bonfire will make allowances for my use of electricity rather than petrol in my hedge trimmer

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  35. Sluff says:

    Wandering along the pier at Bangor and all the little concession pagodas are closed.

    I wonder if furlough is more attractive than work? Who wouldn’t want to get paid by the taxpayer for doing nothing?A quite brilliant scheme for shops which are busy at the weekend and quiet during weekdays. Cover loss making days with furlough based on overall profits but only actually work on the most profitable days. Heads I win, tails you lose. Labour often talk disdainfully about ‘socialising losses and privatising profits’. So why the silence now?
    Alternatively another really clever thing is to claim furlough and then get off-grid work elsewhere. Double bubble.

    The leftoid wokes at the BBC would be up in arms at such possibilities. Meanwhile in the real world it can be seen to be happening all the time.

    Covid inequality is not confined to the favourite BBC virtuous causes but quite far and wide, and unethical if not illegal. Still there is always the money printing and taxpayers to foot the bill.

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    • Scroblene says:

      I had my first ever rum and blackcurrant in a back street pub in Bangor! I was sixteen…

      I rather liked the place, as we had a CCF camp on an island in the Menai Straights, and had to march across the Menai Bridge from Bangor station.

      …er… that’s all…

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  36. africamike says:

    The BBC reports on the EU vaccine passport as if its perfectly normal

    https://www.bbc.com/news/explainers-57665765

    It puts me in mind of members of the Gestapo asking to see people’s papers.

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    • theisland says:

      Servitude to abnormality is the name of the game.

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    • tomo says:

      EU vaccine passport?

      – my experience across countries that I’ve crossed borders during the “pandemic” (Holland, Belgium, France, Italy, Cyprus, Greece) is that it’ll not reduce the blizzard of bureaucratic daftness one bit… – It’s just another piece of paper trotted out in desperation by the goons at the Berlaymont.

      One of the first exemptions to UK Covid travel restrictions were the BBC…

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  37. africamike says:

    Indeed. It seems that the assault on people’s civil rights is not newsworthy. In fact all stories relating to the vaccine passport have been framed to suggest it is in everyone’s interest. Goebbels would be impressed.

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  38. Guest Who says:

    Twerkmeister 💖 Springster.

       10 likes

    • Guest Who says:

      The BBC of course has clear separations between movements opposing things they like, and their guest experts.

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      • theisland says:

        It is the bBC who are doing all the conflating in order to deliberately mislead.
        They tried the same thing with Brexit for example when Leavers were deemed to also be racists or uneducated.
        It is a neat and common trick if you can get away with it – and the bBC thinks it can.
        However, most people have a clear idea of why they are against something (such as lockdown) and they also recognise other people may have different reasons with which they don’t necessarily agree.
        It is the bBC who are muddled and befuddled. They have told everyone what to think and are perplexed when the masses do not obey, so they have to pretend it is the masses who have no clarity of thought.
        Additionally the naysayers are ‘diverse’ – and diversity of thought amongst the plebs cannot be tolerated by box-tickers and, importantly, those who would be in control.

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    • tomo says:

      replace the “er” with “an”

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  39. G.W.F. says:

    BBC mix up Bill Clinton with Bill Cosby.
    I hope Bill Cosby was not offended.

       19 likes

    • gb123 says:

      Seems to be an affliction associated with woke-ism that is spreading rapidly. Who’s next? Donald Biden and Joe Trump? Mother Hitler and Adolf Theresa?

         11 likes

  40. Fedup2 says:

    I understand that there is some kind of event to mark the death of Princess Diana . Having one of my regular BBC – free days – I wondered how they are covering it ?

    Have they re hired Bashir and got Tony Hall to do a commentary – or dug up Steve Hewlett ?

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    • G.W.F. says:

      It’s a woke statue. And Diana looks as if he is transitioning.

      With a boy of colour and a girl.

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  41. taffman says:

    “Channel crossings: June sees record number of migrants”
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-kent-57650055
    Why is the Tory government allowing this invasion against the wishes of the people of Great Britain ?

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  42. taffman says:

    “Matt Hancock: West Suffolk Conservatives back former health secretary”
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-suffolk-57677532
    I doubt his constituents do.

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  43. taffman says:

    “Diabetes: Kayden Hall, 11, died from undiagnosed condition”
    “Ms Hall said she did not think she would be able to get an appointment for her son because of restrictions caused by Covid-19.”
    “There was no way I could get an appointment, he didn’t have a temperature,”
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-57683128

    This is indeed very tragic and sad . I wonder if Mr Drakeford has a comment ?
    IMHO the so Called “Trusts” need to be abolished. We need a more efficient National Health Service with less bureaucrats but more doctors and nurses.
    Our innocent children have been neglected in the cause of “lockdown”.
    The politicians need to realise that the children of Britain are our future.
    Where are the NSPCC?

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  44. zxcvbnm says:

    I do not know as much about Galloway as i should but this is brilliant.

    Tories take note…

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    • taffman says:

      zxcvbnm
      Are you a newcomer ?
      It has already been posted on the previous page by StewGreen ?
      Its still very good though and worth a second viewing .

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      • G.W.F. says:

        I have become addicted to it. Watch it every opportunity even although I have no time for Galloway’s politics.

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      • zxcvbnm says:

        hello

        that is my first post but i have been reading for a long while

        somehow managed to miss it on the previous page

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    • Fedup2 says:

      If he loses badly – the full venom of the BBC will come down on him – even more than that creature ( who does ‘facilitating ‘ and ‘after dinner speeches ‘ amongst other corporate £ events .,.

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  45. StewGreen says:

    4:30pm R4 Sciency Show
    One of the 3 items is with the boss of a GreenBlob PR agency
    “In the near future domestic gas boilers may be replaced by heat pumps.
    However, a district heating system in London is already installing the pumps in a scheme which should see 50% reductions in their carbon emissions.
    We visited the Citigen site to see how the plan would work, and discussed the potential for domestic heat pump roll out with Simon Evans from Carbon Brief.”

    em district heating systems are notorious for screwing up and increasing bills
    such wastage means CO2 is often increased
    never mind the CO2 & £ costs built into the manufacturing/installation stages.

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    • StewGreen says:

      “energy efficient heat pumps”
      are they ?
      they have a installation footprint of £10K-£20K
      factory that into the energy balance.

      The engineer just admitted that they compress the natural energy at 14C to 85C it’s not a efficient as a lower temperature
      “but we have to use 85C cos the buildings are old”
      presenter “the system is magical”

      The system is replacing the 22MW diesel powered district heating system for the City of London.
      Should be operational in November.

      company man “If this new boiler is hydrogen, its emission free”
      .. Ah the presenter did point out that depends how you make the hydrogen
      She didn’t explain the only current economic way to make hydrogen is from fossil fuels.

      They are talking about other heatpump projects in Newcastle …”150 properties”

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    • taffman says:

      StewGreen
      It is inevitable , the poor plebs will have to fork out.
      Of course we all know GB’s CO2 effects on world global temp are negligible.
      Its China , India and the US is where the finger should be directed .
      I am afraid Princess nut nut needs educating .

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    • StewGreen says:

      part 2 of the item is with the Greenblob PR man
      The presenter is pointing out the heatpump system is more expensive to install and run
      He’s saying grants should be given
      … yeh cos magic unicorns will pay for the grants.

      Now they are talking about the hydrogen boiler option
      He spoke about hydrogen coming from windfarm electricity
      .. (tha is not economic currently)

      Ah the guy just admitted his own home heat pump system didn’t work out (old building etc.)

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      • taffman says:

        StewGreen
        Where can I get one of these magic unicorns? Are they on sale at Al Beeb’s studious ?

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    • StewGreen says:

      11pm R4 more greenReligion PR
      Extinction Compendium
      In a new show produced by Jon Holmes,
      Comedian (and actual council Waste Education Officer) Jon Long and Biologist Gillian Burke take on green issues in this fast paced new enviro-comedy.

      The topic – Plastic. Scourge of the planet, or synthetic scapegoat?

      Featuring sketches, songs, and expert interviews. Tonnes of questions, and even one or two answers.
      https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m000xfr3

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  46. LynetteO says:

    The BBC gave a lynching mob interview for Matt Hancock way back in April 2020. They were determined from the start to undermine everything he was doing and get rid of him. I recorded this report ( thank you to richard D on this site ) to shows their dispicable tactics.

    https://netanyalynette.blogspot.com/2020/04/the-bbc-has-this-morning-11th-april.html

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  47. taffman says:

    “Checkatrade boss warns of shortage of skilled trade workers”
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-57663112
    Answer – Scrap useless Mickey Mouse degrees and the associated Woke Universities,
    Bring back real crafts and trade apprenticeships with associated day release to Technical Colleges that would not by their nature suffer from virtue signalling and Marxist propaganda.
    Trainees would be earning money instead of paying the wages of lefty dons.
    Make Britain Great Again.

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    • BRISSLES says:

      Taff, your analysis got me thinking.

      Back in the day (60’s) and my various boyfriends (there were several, as soon as they started to get fidgety hands they were ditched ! – getting pregnant was not to be encouraged). I digress, but their occupations included….. car mechanic, centre lathe turner, printer, asst. manager at Woolworths, semi pro footballer, and trainee customs officer (I lived in East Kent).

      Not a degree between them, but plenty of City & Guilds, and most never had a day on the dole ! Us girls would be in the typing pools or on the factory line, and then at weekends suited and booted would let our hair down dancing at Dreamland in Margate.

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      • taffman says:

        BRISSLES
        I know a lot of apprentices that passed ONC, HNC, and then went on to get a degree.
        That was degrees in building, maths, sciences, electronics and engineering. A lot tougher than the degrees they get today in ‘ologies’, meeja, humanities and counting beads .

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    • Dobyns says:

      taffman, you MUST STOP making sense

         4 likes

      • taffman says:

        Dobyns
        I shall do my best.
        I expect then that it will get me a highly paid job with Al Beeb ?

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  48. vlad says:

    Alex Belfield daring to report that latest figures show a hugely disproportionate percentage of young offenders in custody are BAME.

    So far, nothing on the BBC.

    I predict they will ignore it if they can, as long as they can, and then blame it on racism.

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    • taffman says:

      If the truth be told, it can all be blamed on employing people in the Police Force by their ‘diversity’ not by their merit. Until that changes we will read more about black on black stabbings and murders .
      “Lessons to be learned”, again.

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  49. Kaiser says:

    ive still no idea what a non-binary is

    it would seem to be wanting to emulate dame edna

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/newsbeat-57682671

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    • Guest Who says:

      Sorry, missed it.

      Intrigues what they prioritise.

      And did they go out and find Joe, know Joe or did xe pop in a press release confident of full coverage?

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