Midweek Thread 21 July 2021

Two days until the unwanted olympics . At the last olympics ( Rio) the BBC sent 455 people but refused – under FOI – to declare how much it cost . Let’s see how transparent the BBC is this time around .

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573 Responses to Midweek Thread 21 July 2021

  1. JohnC says:

    OMG – I’m up first. Let me take a look to see what I can start with …
    I’m back and I’ve just been reading the BBC report about rape prosecutions:
    The first thing which strikes me is there is the complete assumption that every one is valid and the man is guilty. I’ve known enough bunny-boilers and semi-sane women to make that worry me a lot.
    The bit which stood out for me was:

    She said that some victims withdrew their complaints because “they cannot face the unwarranted and unacceptable intrusion into their privacy”.
    “This is because many will be required to handover their mobile phones, so that the data can be downloaded to see if it has any bearing on a possible criminal prosecution.”

    So they withdraw rape claims because police will see what they’ve been up to. Their choice and speaks volumes to me. I imagine that avenue is vital for men who are falsely accused. No doubt it will be removed so they can get the conviction rate up.


    • StewGreen says:

      The main reason you must report sexual assault is to save FUTURE VICTIMS. You can’t change the past, only the future
      It should be worth any inconvenience or embarrassment to yourself

      There will be times where the perp is so powerful & community protected and a danger to you and your children, say in grooming gang cases.. going all the way through court might not be wise.
      But reporting does help the police build evidence.

      I wonder if the media’s *false equivalence* plays a part
      That a girl stops a rape case
      cos it will reveal that she as a 14 year old sent 2 msgs with the word the P-word or N-word in
      a crime of one point vs rape which is a million points.


  2. taffman says:

    The start of a witch hunt against men?


    • JohnC says:

      Just a continuation.
      From The Guardian of all places !.
      This is what happens when our box-ticking police are given conviction rate targets.
      It also explains why so many cases are dropped when the ‘victim’ finds out they have to disclose all their social media messages. The BBC don’t go anywhere near that suggestion.


      • BRISSLES says:

        John, wait until Extinction Rebellion gears up again, and then rape convictions and stats will be confined to the pending tray . I’m sure someone sits looking for data and stats on anything in the absence of proper news.


        • JohnC says:

          A long time ago I would look at some of the trivial things on the news and wonder why they were chosen for us all to know when so many others weren’t.
          Now I’m older I realise what it is : political agenda. Sometimes it takes some thought to work out what subject you are being slowly conditioned to think a certain way about.


      • StewGreen says:

        replies to that 2.5 yr old Guardian article say
        “The evidence points to a false allegation problem not a rape problem!”

        “Police & Cop Protection Service (CPS) withholding exculpatory evidence that can set you free
        .. evidence that points to someone else may have commit the crime


  3. JohnC says:

    Thomas Barrack: Top Trump aide accused of working as foreign agent
    Lurch tells us the reason behind it at the end and from the way he writes, I’m quite certain he doesn’t see anything wrong with it.
    ‘Barrack and Trump reportedly have had a falling out, but their ties run deep. If he wants to talk about Trump’s past activities, prosecutors may be inclined to listen.’
    One thing which has amazed me from the start is how this open and obvious witchhunt vendetta against Trump is reported by all the media as if it is entirely routine and acceptable.
    It contrasts with how they ignore any of the many stories which link directly to Biden for sexual assault, blatant lies and corruption.
    The world is going through a bizarre phase at this time due to the rise of social media where ‘the hecklers at the back have been given the microphone’.
    I wonder where it will all end.


    • Fedup2 says:

      Ive read the excellent agreement to give £54 000 000 to the French to double police patrols

      This will increase the number of police from one to two .

      Unfortunately the first chap is off sick and the second one is on maternity leave .

      Obviously the Health and safety of the boat users is paramount – so trainin’ and equipment will be given to them to ensure safe use of the channel .

      Other suggestions – such as the purchase of pikes to puncture dinghies mid channel has not been approved .


      • JohnC says:

        What I don’t understand is how this fits in with the French navy escorting them to meet our navy.
        Surely they should just turn them around and force them back ?.
        They will never catch them on the beach, even if they had any will to. They can drive up, shove the boat in the water and be off in a minute.


        • Fedup2 says:

          JohnC – I think the bank accounts of the various outfits on both sides of the channel must be swelling nicely . Don’t hear many complaints from the “border force “ or “RNLI ‘ do we ?

          And I bet David Cameron Enterprises will have been busy ‘asking for favours ‘ from old school chums …


        • taffman says:

          How many ISIS terrorists are the French navy escorting across the English Channel?
          Someone is going to have blood on their hands?

          Our Border Farce is not fit for purpose .
          Neither is our present government . If even more are shipped across will our government pay the French even more money to stop even more being shipped over ?


          • Guest Who says:

            Unless there is a booming civil service job market in effective covert 24/7 threat tracking, next time a bunch of kids get blown to chump or hacked up the lessons-learning authorities and compliant media better hope the parents and relatives are as compliant and forgetful as the last time.

            But one day there will be a reaction. And it will not be Priti.

            My complacent MP is still relying on the Labour, Limp and Green PCCs being beyond credulity to breeze in again next time and so has ventured out to open another gurning local business for mutual pr coverage.


          • JohnC says:

            Definitely lots of potential terrorists. Just as soon as they catch that virus or whatever it is called ‘radicalisation’ which apparently turns decent people into inhumane murderers.
            Luckily for us, all the government have to do after they catch them is ‘de-radicalise’ them and they are normal again. Not sure what that is to be honest but I think they have to sit a multiple choice exam and score > 50%.


      • MarkyMark says:

        ‘The UK and France maintain a longstanding relationship on tackling illegal migration at the shared border; since 2015 the UK has committed several funding packages to supporting this work.

        In 2015, both countries signed a Joint Declaration which committed £10 million towards security reviews of the juxtaposed controls and to moving migrants nto reception centres across France.
        This was followed by payments in 2016 (£17 million)
        and 2017 (£36 million) to further strengthen the border and maintain the operation of the juxtaposed controls.
        In January 2018 both countries signed the Sandhurst Treaty. The UK made a commitment of €50 million (£45.5m) to implement the terms of the Treaty, which adopted a “whole of route approach” to tackling illegal migration.
        This was followed in 2019 by the signature of the Joint Action Plan on Combatting Illegal Migration Involving Small Boats. Under paragraph 11 of this plan, the UK committed €3.6m (approximately £3.25m).
        This was supplemented with a further €2.5m (£2.25m) in the 2019/2020 Financial Year

        Total spent = £114 million


      • Nibor says:

        Danegeld .


      • Kaiser says:

        that will be the fuel costs being run up by the french navy


    • Guest Who says:

      Without ‘accused of’ most bbc reporting would dry up.


    • NCBBC says:

      More bizarre stuff from the world of Covid

      July 21, 2021
      By the way, would you like to know who was the Covid positive individual who caused Boris’ prompt removal to the British countryside? He was no other than his new Health Minister Sajid Javid. And guess what: Sajid Javid is also fully vaccinated.

      Do you now see why this whole vaccination theatre is a farce? Do you also see why it is also a tragedy?

      An untested vaccine against a rapidly changing virus.

      The virus will always be one step ahead of the vaccine. Lile a flea, there is no way to predict which way it will jump.


      Read it all


  4. Up2snuff says:

    TOADY Watch #1 – a lie repeated is a lie re-inforced and they did so again this morning on TOADY

    BBC: “Dominic Cummings discussed removing Boris Johnson as Prime Minister within days of the General Election in 2019.” He did not.

    As told to Laura, the discussions – if they ever happened, we only have one person’s claim on that – happened in mid-January. When in mid-January? Did Laura ask? January has 31 days, so 16th January is the middle day of the month. We might be generous and state instead that mid-January is six to seven days either side of 16th January, somewhere between 9th and 23rd of January.

    The last UK General Election took place on 12 December 2020. So for the Cummings claim to be true in the understanding of most people, the discussions about removing the PM should have taken place before 20th December 2019. Once you go beyond Christmas 2019, ‘weeks’, not ‘days’, would be the correct descriptive.

    Why do the BBC perpetuate a lie?

    Well, it is more dramatic to say ‘days’ instead of the correct term: ‘weeks’.

    The BBC are deceivers.


    • Guest Who says:

      Seems this award winning (sorry BS… Laura gets a poodle and a photographer with access to PhotoShop and your chances are slim) ‘exclusive’ has followed a familiar path.

      On the one side anyone rational seeing it for what it is, and on the other endless Beeboids gushing and cooing as lefty gobs froth.

      A political operator using the credulous or complicit bbc platform to pursue an agenda is not news.


      • Up2snuff says:

        Guest, it is so peculiar I cannot help but wonder whether Bojo and Dom have hatched a cunning plan to either sideline the BBC or to get some other ‘bad eggs’ out of the Whitehall or Westminster pile. This Cumming’s thing is therefore a necessary and deliberate diversionary tactic.

        So bizarre.

        One sad casualty might be the PM’s recent marriage.

        I cannot help but wonder, with the BBC banging on about ‘discussions over removal of the PM’:
        1. Exactly when did the PM contract Covid?
        2. Was the source of infection ever investigated?
        3. If not, why not?


        • Fedup2 says:

          Nut nut disregarded the threat from the chinese virus in the early stage – eg night time visits to hospitals and shaking hands .

          Perhaps his behaviour will be part of the public inquiry – which will be a waste of time and not designed to apportion blame .
          And i bet there is blanket immunity

          After all – if IRA killers get it why not others?


    • JohnC says:

      Classic BBC. Not a lie but deliberately written to make you think in a way other than the truth.
      Always remember the ‘Why you can trust the BBC’ button. Even that is a lie.


    • Scroblene says:

      Repeat – ‘1st Law of Scrobs’.

      If it’s ‘quoted’ by the awful BBC, then consider the opposite is true.

      The squalor of UK politics is bad enough, without being mistreated by a ‘national’ broadcaster.

      Stinkers the lot of them.


    • Fedup2 says:

      I’m not sure . I reckon the swamp dwellers spend most of their time either threatening or being threatened with ‘removal ‘ – so the idea of Gove or other being ready for the top job isn’t too far fetched .
      However – Cummings is flawed – he failed – and I cannot think why he would give such an interview to the enemy . Does he not know that nut nut will just do the guffawing mr toad act ?

      But there are plenty and few principles in the swamp .


      • Up2snuff says:

        Sure, Fed, the third or fourth estate: both are swamps. BTW, I assume by using the words ‘nut nut’ you are referring to the PM, not his new missus who is popularly known as Princess Nut Nuts, thanks to, Dominic Cummings of all people.

        There is something of an ‘understanding’, a convention, if you will: if you leave a job in Westminster or Whitehall, you leave the ‘tell all’ to your memoir at the end of your life. There is an exception to that convention: if you are PM.

        Cummings is either:
        Bitter at the way he and his colleage (Lee Cain, was it?) were treated by Princess Nut Nuts
        – or –
        is seriously concerned about the mental, physical and psychological state of the Prime Minister and leading members of the Cabinet and has evidence of dangerous derangement
        – or –
        He & the PM are working on a cunning plan.

        If the second, is his current strategy the best way of going about things?


        • Fedup2 says:

          Up2 yes i see nut nut as a single unit now –
          Im aware of the derivation

          I cant see a strategy in talking to the enemy for an hour – especially one close to the PM .
          After the weekend isolation nonsense the media drone in number 10 must have a spinnning head- although they may be too thick to realise – as posited by cummings


  5. Guest Who says:

    Meanwhile…. question in the form of a headline…


  6. Guest Who says:

    Vile heats up the leftovers.


    • JohnC says:

      How about this one Jeremy:
      If you are riding a bicycle on a narrow road and there is a cycle path off to one side, should you use it ?.
      1) Yes, don’t be a selfish tw@t and hold the traffic up.
      2) No. Stay on the road but do your best to keep out of the way of those who pay the road tax.
      2) No. Stay on the road, hold up the traffic by riding in the middle of the road (like afore mentioned selfish tw@t) then get indignant when a driver shouts at you for not using the cycle lane. In your fit of spite, upload the GoPro video you doctored by adding leading captions to twitter to try and humiliate him.


      • StewGreen says:

        Reasons why I sometime use the road, not the cycle lane
        – it’s got cars parked on it
        – It’s full of potholes
        – It’s full of pedestrians
        – I’m about to turn right

        In reality I’m much more likely to be jumping up onto an empty footpath
        in order to make way for a 40 tonne straw lorry behind me.
        I don’t see the point in fancy cycle lanes, when we can use this discretion instead.

        Road tax : It’s mostly directly paid by the freight industry in all the fuel they use. None of us have avoided that tax , cos we pay for it in the products we buy.


      • Seppers says:

        All income tax payers pay for the roads. Also, non-car users are freeing up space for car users.
        That said, no excuse for inconsiderate road use from either group.


    • MarkyMark says:

      If you avoid taxes should you still use the NHS?


  7. Guest Who says:

    Another bbc ‘story’ where the route from victim to bbc platform intrigues…


    • JohnC says:

      Tried to watch but could not stand that ‘croaky voice’ thing and raising the pitch at the end of a sentence which these people seem to think is cool.
      I wonder if these are all from dirty white racist English males. Just like the racist football tweets weren’t. As none are identified, I’ll assume not.


    • Sluff says:

      Love this modern occupation of ‘influencer’.
      A self-appointed spokesperson for the trashy gullible unable to think for themselves, and making stacks of cash in the process.

      I don’t even know what ‘cyberflashing’ means but if it’s a problem then my in-depth advice to ‘influencer’ Edwards is to turn the phone off!


      • JohnC says:

        I’ve noticed the BBC use it like an official title when what they say suits the agenda.
        They are shalllow, attention seeking individuals with one goal : lots of followers for advertising revenue.
        Exactly the kind of people we should NOT be listening to.


    • Up2snuff says:

      Guest, why was she stupid enough to allow herself to be photographed naked? If you do not like it, keep your clothes on! If someone else sends you that sort of picture or video, then set your filter controls to a higher level. Duher!

      That video clip comes across as an advertisement.


  8. AsISeeIt says:

    We have a very telling divide in our national press frontpages this morning. The mass market titles highlight the escalating scandal of illegal Channel crossings. Other titles prefer not to touch it.

    Migrant crossings into Britain hit new record‘ – the headline from the Times is typical as the Mail, Express, freebie Metro and Telegraph, each cover the all too familiar themes of French complicity in shepherding the boats into our waters, Priti Patel making her usual bold yet ineffectual statements and France copping more of our tax payer cash to supposedly police their own coast – which of course they won’t do.

    The left-leaning giveaway Metro features a pic they choose to caption: ‘Bucket and saved. Migrants, including a mother and child, are guided ashore at Dungeness yesterday as holidaymakers watch‘ – I’m not sure whether the Metro were intending to shoot for irony, given that press photographers always hone in on those rare instances of women and children arriving among otherwise large groups of young men, but one suspects the surprised holidaymakers looking on from the beach and witness to the whole sorry procession of newly arrived Britons will likely have been jolted out of their cognitive dissonance. At least they will have some first hand personal experience to reflect on next time they pick up a newspaper or tune into a news broadcast telling them about the housing crisis, the scramble for limited school places or the lack of NHS capacity.

    But if it is irony one seeks this morning then let me tell you, the Telegraph furnishes us with a corker: ‘Two Navy ships to be stationed in Far East. Britain is to permanently base two Royal Navy ships in the Far East to help form a bulwark against Chinese claims over Asian waters‘ – gunboat diplomacy, like charity, ought to begin at home, Boris. Anyway, how does a navy prevent China’s bat flu diplomacy?

    We’ll leave it there, afterall, you’ve read it all before and this won’t be the end of the Calais Dover migrant conveyor belt scandal suppling much needed staff to a vital new back street car wash operation near you. Maybe the game will change and politicians with finally act after an autumn squall or collision with a large container vessel drowns a few dozen and the bodies wash ashore.

    So what are the outliers of the press interested in? The Mirror is as confused in outlook as the Labour Party it supports going with: ‘Pingdemic pandamonium. One million kids off school. PM’s Covid-rule chaos hits pupils as thousands are forced to self-isolate‘ – do you want tell them or shall I? Hey Daily Mirror, all nine million of them will be off school by next week. We’ll never get the teachers to put their long summer break on hold, no matter what the national crisis or how much school the kids have missed.

    The ‘i’ which pitches itself as having independent views wants us all in lockdown, apparently forever: ‘Three weeks for England to avoid new covid restrictions. Sage scientists have urged ministers to bring back rules early…

    I’m obviously not qualified to share investment advice but it’s a pretty safe bet we’ll be in futher lockdown by autumn.

    Speaking of investment, despite self-isolating itself from mainstream British opinion the FT still hasn’t recovered from what I’m beginning to regard as a very nasty and lingering persistant case of Long-Brexit-Aversion: ‘Push to withdraw Brexit trade deal sets collision course with Brussels‘ – I feel someone should stage an intervention – get yourselves into some form of therapy and get over it!

    Speaking of self-isolation and the talking cure, the Guardian has apparently withdrwan into a world view of its own, obsessing over some Israeli spyware firm. I suppose, although no one can quite understand what they’re banging on about, the conspiracy theorists over there at the Gruan do get to diss the world leaders they don’t like and big up the ones they do: ‘Revealed. Macron and 13 world leaders on leaked data list. Questions for Israel over ties to spyware firm. Protests in India over Modi allegations. The “nasty” program at heart of claims

    And finally, our tabloid star, the Daily of that ilk joke that they have a preview of Prince Harry’s book wot he wrote: ‘Exclusive: That £14m Royal book in full: Chapter 1 By me (although not really by me) Me! Me! Me! Me! Me! ….. The end‘ Sorry, I had to abridge that a bit but you get the idea. Like the migrant Channel crossing saga it just runs on and on.


    • JohnC says:

      The ‘i’ senior editor was on a panel on GB news with Dan Wootton the other day.
      You will rarely see a more intolerate, spiteful Lefty. In the debates he started shouting and calling everyone racists while the rest of them pulled his arguments to pieces and laughed at him.
      Then he sat with a smug little smirk on his hate-filled face until he got chance for another go.
      All credit to Dan for being civil to him afterwards.


      • Guest Who says:

        There is no ‘I’ in ‘Me, me, me!’.


        They hired Champion yet?


        • R P McMurphy says:

          No but when someone uses that hackneyed phrase, “there is no I in team” I have been thrown out of several ” training” courses for telling the idiot taking them that there is ” u” in another word.


          • Scroblene says:

            I have a chum who was asked by a pullovered, wire-framed leftie how he would manage his team if he got the job.

            He just said ‘By shouting at them’…

            Great guy, he went on to do a much better job elsewhere!


          • BRISSLES says:

            I identify with that RPMcM, ‘training’ sessions in my day would be telling us what we already knew – and that was more than the trainer taking the course.

            I would always try to liven up the session when we had to identify ourselves, by saying ” I am L……. and I’m an alcoholic. Oops sorry, wrong meeting”. Always raised a laugh, and once I got thrown out for not taking it seriously.


      • StewGreen says:

        Benjamin Butterworth “Late Editor and Senior reporter” on the ‘I’ newspaper.
        Which has a circulation of 141K
        tenth place in newspaper circulation figures
        …3 min clip ..First minute is Neil Oliver
        then 2 mins of shouting from the nightclubbing schoolboy https://twitter.com/GBNEWS/status/1417222781213753344


  9. Guest Who says:

    Not just #prasnews, bbc #prasnewx

    Remember Rosey flogging tat under the bbc cover of offering business intel?


  10. Fedup2 says:

    Arrested footballer watch

    The latest in this farce is the wrong footballer was outed as the arrested one – when in fact it is xxxxxx xxxxxxx.

    The name is with held for ‘ legal reasons ‘ but twitter and google are above the law and the name is easily findable on both ( although my version is outside the UK ) .


  11. Guest Who says:

    And then, the house journal

    Given away in M&S outlets in the BBC?



  12. MarkyMark says:

    One person is making money whilst he sleeps …

    Payments from Hodder and Stoughton UK, Carmelite House, 50 Victoria Embankment, London EC4Y 0DZ, via United Agents, 12-26 Lexington St, London W1F 0LE:
    28 July 2020, received £1,203.28 for royalties on book already written. Hours: no additional hours. (Registered 24 August 2020)

    30 September 2020, received £6,000.57 for royalties on book already written. Hours: no additional hours. (Registered 14 October 2020)

    20 January 2021, received £1,471.64 for royalties on book already written. Hours: no additional hours. (Registered 05 February 2021)

    10 March 2021, received £742.60 for royalties on book already written. Hours: no additional hours. (Registered 25 March 2021)

    31 March 2021, received £2,397.09 for royalties on book already written. Hours: no additional hours. (Registered 16 April 2021)

    21 April 2021, received £1,468.23 for royalties on book already written. Hours: no additional hours. (Registered 11 May 2021)
    Payments from HarperCollins UK, 1 London Bridge St, London SE1 9GF, via Rogers, Coleridge and White Ltd, 20 Powis Mews, London W11 1JN:
    28 October 2020, received £2,406.12 for royalties on books already written. Hours: no additional hours. (Registered 05 November 2020)

    23 April 2021, received £482.66 for royalties on books already written. Hours: no additional hours. (Registered 11 May 2021)



  13. Sluff says:

    Just thinking about the economic chancer boats crossing the channel.
    Maybe the solution is for the Channel ferries and tunnel operators to seek redress at the CMA for unfair competition. The Border Farce are hugely disturbing the market and have among other things nothing like the safety compliance costs to bear that the ferries and tunnel have.


  14. MarkyMark says:

    Equality …..

    According to racial equality activist Richard Lapchick, the NBA in 2020 was composed of 74.2 percent black players, 16.9 percent white players, 2.2 percent Latino players of any race, and 0.4 percent Asian players. There were 6.3 percent of the players classified as “other” races.


    • JohnC says:

      You really need to learn the lingo:
      When black people are over-represented, it’s called diversity.
      When white people are over-represented it’s called racist and black people demand equality. But only when they stand to gain something from it. Usually financial.


  15. Foscari says:

    It could well be that Lorraine Graves could be the next poster
    girl for the BLM organization. She was arrested on an
    accessory to murder charge in Tulsa ,Oklahoma after trying
    to claim reward money for information on the murder.
    So expect to see more subjugation from our conscientious
    BIG BROTHER and the team from the BBC diversity department
    will be in a perpetual orgasmic state at the Olympics as
    the UK contingent go down on their knees . If it’s not with
    the Chinese virus it will be for prostrating themselves for the
    BLM organization.
    Wont it give you goose pimples that when they are collecting their medals or coughing their guts up that we will see them
    going down on their knees ? And all of this will be on the BBC !!
    Doesn’t it want you to go and pay for your TV license?


  16. MarkyMark says:

    Boris gets free food for live! HA HA HA HA !

    Name of donor: Mohammad Chohan
    Address of donor: private

    Amount of donation or nature and value if donation in kind: Gift hamper, value £750

    Date received: 30 April 2020

    Date accepted: 30 April 2020

    Donor status: individual

    (Registered 12 May 2020)



  17. MarkyMark says:

    BBC Turn to Dominic Cummings as a saviour – with no hate.


  18. Tabs says:

    Has the BBC started to report the news rather than push their agenda?

    Two article on their news website are:
    Marcus Rashford defends charity deals over profit claims
    UK and France agree deal to tackle rise in Channel crossings

    These are the sort of news that the BBC cannot usually find “editorial space” for. Is this due to GB News forcing the BBC to report the news from now on?


  19. Dover Sentry says:

    How about if a rubber-boat full of migrants headed from here to France?

    What would the French reaction be?


  20. theisland says:

    Tabs “GB News forcing the BBC to report the news”

    Every little helps to raise awareness.


  21. theisland says:


    BBC’s deceit over ‘dried up’ Victoria Falls by Paul Homewood


  22. Up2snuff says:

    BBC WEB-SITE Watch #1 – Compare and contrast

    4) He has doubts about Brexit


    However, he adds: “Obviously I think Brexit was a good thing.”


    Dishonest, deliberately deceiving, BBC.


  23. Sluff says:

    Oh dear.
    One of the BBC’s favourite saints is under attack.
    Better do something about it.

    ‘Marcus Rashford defends charity deals over profit claims’
    Footballer Marcus Rashford has defended his off-field partnerships amid claims he has profited by campaigning.

    Oh dear. How sad. Never mind.


  24. digg says:

    The people at The Guardian are definitely on something.

    For days they have been obsessing about some Dr. No style fiction about Israeli spying, long reads with absolutely no facts or proof whatsoever.

    Now they have decided to school their readers into the new protocols and best practice for attending a “rave”.


    Now unless I am mistaken, “raves” are possibly not the go to activity for the average Guardian reader, surely an article on how to stay safe at the local Amnesty International Group meeting would be better targetting for their readership?

    It’s a bit like The Church of England putting out advice on best practice when you go dogging!


  25. StewGreen says:

    Local situation : It is sunny but feels much cooler cos of the breeze
    10am I went for a run around the block and didn’t sweat.

    A Hull car park is to to close, cos of anti-social behaviour
    …which car park ?
    Osborne Street
    … the one *in front of the main Hull police station*

    If the police can’t keep that area safe, what hope is there ?


    • JohnC says:

      Just leave your car in a park. Then be abusive at a few people, take a few dumps under the trees and make sure you take all your rubbish to leave in a pile.
      If you fancy a drink, walk into Town and start smashing up a few pubs. The police will not arrest you and will threaten anyone abusive towards you with a hate crime.
      Then, when you decide to leave, the residents will pay for it all to be cleaned up.
      Oh – don’t forget you have to identify as a Gypsy when you arrive.


  26. digg says:

    I promise I am really not on a Guardian attack mode but… They are the gift that just keeps on giving!

    Oh Zoe you little Guardian guru, tut, tut….schoolgirl errors…

    2020 – Zoe Williams


    2021 – Zoe Williams


    Now what could Dominic possibly have done that made such a shift in her opinion I wonder?


    • Beltane says:

      She’s not thought it through digg, not from her avowed feminist viewpoint anyway. Cummings’ most telling and valid criticism was for our PMs new lady wife, Princess Nut Nuts, whose domination over his so easily swayed and vacillating nature is a very real threat to what now passes for democracy.

      Dominic Cummings and his crew, for all their faults, are skilled and knowledgeable both of politics and politicians. Carrie’s choices – who have replaced anyone with views counter to her own – will, if unchecked, bring the government down to the same level as the current Labour party.

      Some may well see this as a good thing, not least Guardian, BBC and Independent fans, but those on here with a more rational and realistic approach will rue the day Boris gave in to her increasingly woke environmental demands .


      • digg says:

        I think Dominic might well be a bit of a genius and a determined sort of chap but every time I see and hear him I have disturbing feeling that all is not quite what it seems under the surface. There is a hint of a bitter rejected prophet about him which comes across as slightly odd and unhinged.


    • JohnC says:

      Which would you say is the most prominent characteristic of the typical far-lefty ?.

      Hypocrisy or hate ?.


  27. G.W.F. says:

    Wimmin footballers take the knee for Olympic game

    ”Following the murder of George Floyd in May 2020, players and officials in the Premier League and English Football League began taking the knee before matches to highlight racial inequality and discrimination.”


    Floyd George is the hero of wimmin athletes.


  28. taffman says:

    “UK and France agree deal to tackle rise in Channel crossings”

    It is a pathetic attempt or an excuse to cover up the Home Office and Prime Minister’s mess. Even last year or before , the whole nation could see this invasion coming except it appears, the Tory Government? It will get worse until Parliaments wakes up .
    What ever International Law says, every nation has a right to defend itself from Invasion .
    It will end only when we STOP it or sadly, when France and the rest of the EU has emptied all its illegals and criminals . Its their revenge for our Brexit .
    We have been betrayed by the Home Office
    Has some “Tory” done a secret deal with the EU?


  29. Fedup2 says:

    Twitter reports that the trial of Labour MP – Apsana Begum begins today . Housing Fraud .- maybe cultural…

    Much coverage in the MSM ? No of course not .


    • StewGreen says:

      No live tweets, even from Jay Beecher
      as if there are reporting restrictions .


    • StewGreen says:

      Must be reporting restrictions, cos there is nothing

      Meanwhile the Yorkshire Post reported
      “Yorkshire MP Imran Ahmad Khan accused of molesting a 15-year-old boy in 2008 is due to appear at the Old Bailey to formally enter a plea. Wakefield MP Khan, faces a single count of sexual assault”

      That is today also, but also seems to have a similar reporting ban.


  30. Beltane says:

    Just to help put things in perspective, ‘What Car?’ the petrol-heads’ bible – using the term generally – has released the top 25 electric cars eagerly awaiting customers.

    The vast majority are unpriced, but to give some idea of the bargains that await an electrically excited market, the Hyundai Ioniq starts at £37k, the Kia EU6 just under £50k, the Cupra Tavascan a snip at £60k, the Range Rover EV also starts – which means things like sat-nav and decent audio are extras – at £90k while the Tesla Roadster is expected to launch at around £190k.

    Only the MG Electric at approx £20k could be described as affordable by the majority of the car-buying public – and that’s while all the infrastructure for charging and maintaining such cars remains largely incomplete. Or not started. Much like any of the above with a flat battery.

    What a very brave new world.


    • BRISSLES says:

      How does anyone afford a new car of any description these days ?

      I’m still driving my 15 year old Rav 4 around with 96,000 on the clock, I certainly cant afford to replace it with a newer model, AND I now discover something is happening with petrol on cars over 11 years old !


      • Fedup2 says:

        Bris – dearest – I was one of those mugs who was encouraged to buy a new Audi diesel – you know – the ones the krauts fiddled the emissions on . Buying a new car is insane – doubly so in Londonistan – every bit of malicious damage hurts .

        The irony is – the tax is £24 . On my new scooter it is £45 . How does that work ? Mind you – on me old landy ( stolen ) it was about £450 a year …

        By the way – the legal case in the UK against VW is ongoing – elsewhere they settled and paid out …


  31. Foscari says:

    Fedup-You have got to understand that the BBC need
    helluva lot of inclusive personal at the Olympics to help
    organize the athletes in their knee bending subjugation
    to the BLM organization.


  32. Fedup2 says:

    Considering that the number of people to interview is rapidly diminishing because of the Chinese virus I’m surprise they’ll send out 10% of the Rio number .


    At PMQs Starmer sneered about nut nut being in isolation at checquers .

    We guess what – turns out he must now isolate because of one of his kids – and since he strutted his stuff in the Commons maybe a few more socialists will be ‘locked down ‘ too ….


  33. Beltane says:

    For those spurred to greater heights of liberal thought and spiritual warmth by the current invasion, why is it that terms like: Human endeavor, nobility of spirit, Christian ideals, humane and generous approach, welcoming environment, homes for heroes (Well, perhaps not that one – went pear-shaped in 1922), much needed labour force and so on, require injections of £27m followed by £54m in order to succeed?

    Surely such noble enterprises should not be sullied by any monetary influence?


  34. Guest Who says:

    Jessica sounds a real fit for the BBC Politics desk.


    • BRISSLES says:

      They’ll all soon be of an age where they wish they had it to worry about !!! Invisibility arrives very quickly.


    • Banania says:

      “I hate that our culture makes me miss it.”
      (a) Why the Valley-Girl English?
      (b) “Our culture” doesn’t make you do anything. You are just extracting grounds for complaint from a development that if you were not a self-seeking hypocrite you would be obliged to welcome.


    • StewGreen says:

      Vine’s R2 show had comedienne Kate Smurthwaite on a male caller said actually he had women wolf whistle at him from across the road.
      Smurthwaite didn’t listen and assumed he was the one doing the whistling and steamrolled condemnation at him.


    • Seppers says:

      How does ‘our culture’ make her miss it?


  35. taffman says:

    How the Greeks sort the modern Trojan Horse out……………….


  36. tomo says:

    A new (to me at anyrate – but he’s been around a while) BBC “key talent” star in the firmament with a similar MO to the much loved Jeremy Vine.

    Say hello to Ros Atkins

    He features in this YouTube piece from Tony Heller.

    Destined for greatness that lad…


  37. taffman says:

    I see that the Channel Invasion has dropped off the front page of aAl Beeb now .
    It appears that we are in the absurd situation where we are paying the French to ship them over?
    Who is paying for the accommodation of the “Illegals” – a bankrupt Britain?


  38. StewGreen says:

    BREAKING: Sir Keir Starmer self-isolating after child tests positive for Covid


    • Fedup2 says:

      Stew – since it is you – see my comment at 2.51 pm today – gotcha ! Ha ha .

      I’m sure Labour will try to spin it to try to make Starmer a bit human as opposed to an inhuman lawyer machine . He tried humour at PMQs but does not have the nouse to think on his feet .


  39. StewGreen says:

    R4 now a prog about a couple shortchanged by the court system
    after a gang stamped their son to death

    The gang lied in court, but were convicted
    that left the couple without an explanation for what really happened.

    10 years after sentencing a charity helped them find their way around the blocks on Restorative Justice
    … The perps did say sorry, and say they were bad kids at the time
    The father helped the now 25 yo perp find a job.


  40. zxcvbnm says:

    List of Red Zones from a country in Europe…

    Red zone:

    Republic of India, People’s Republic of Bangladesh, Federal Democratic Republic of Nepal, Myanmar, Kingdom of Bhutan, Democratic Socialist Republic of Sri Lanka, Republic of Maldives, Republic of South Africa, Republic of Botswana, United Republic of Tanzania, Republic of Seychelles, Republic of Seychelles, Republic of Seychelles Oman, Malaysia, Turkmenistan, Republic of Tajikistan, Kyrgyz Republic, Mongolia, Republic of Colombia, Republic of Chile, Eastern Uruguay, Republic of Argentina, Federative Republic of Brazil, Republic of Paraguay, Multinational State of Bolivia, Republic of Peru, Republic of Peru, Republic of Peru , Republic of Guatemala, Belize, Republic of El Salvador, Republic of Cuba and Dominican Republic, Republic of Cyprus, *United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland*, Kingdom of Spain,Fiji and the Emirate of Kuwait.

    Such illustrious company we now keep…


  41. StewGreen says:

    4:30pm Media Show “Pegasus spyware Guardian journalists explain how they got the story”
    – 2 more items
    including “why the Labe leak theory is OK now, but not under Trump … Fullfact explain”

    1:30pm WaTO news and now over to the Guardian’s Olympic correspondent in Japan


    • StewGreen says:

      5pm trailer ..for the black poet show

      BTW Diversity ?
      Freelance journo Andrea Catherwood did do progs on R4 today
      As well as the Media Show this afternoon she presented her series about thhe Ireland border this morning.


  42. Kaiser says:


  43. StewGreen says:

    6pm BBC2 Women’s Cricket for 3 hours
    Part of Hundred-ball Cricket series
    broadcasters broadcast women’s cricket today
    and the men’s game tomorrow
    .. Men’s schedule https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/the-hundred-men/scores-fixtures


    • Guest Who says:

      Trubble in paradise.

      Just as RuPaul’s agent was getting excited.


      • Doublethinker says:

        But I remember watching Dr Who aged 12 about 1964 ! It’s got be at least 57 years old. Oh hang on do they mean the ridiculous Woke retread which I have never seen.


        • SLAW IS WAR says:

          The Tom Baker era was a masterpiece of gothic horror masquerading as a science fiction serial – you’d never get material like that into a BBC show now. It’s all so wooden and formulaic, driven by political posturing rather than the energy of ideas; there’s no dark underbelly to anything, no sense of menace or engagement with the sinister. The phrase ‘hiding behind the sofa’ popped up regularly when I was a kid, almost always thanks to the edgier content of the BBC. Nowadays, I’m more likely to vomit down the side of it due to the dismal crappiness of everything they churn out.


    • Docmarooned says:

      That will really delight the viewing public.


  44. StewGreen says:

    Damian Collins has put up a 3 min clip of his R4 interview re Channel migrants


  45. davylars says:

    The BBC, and other main stream news outlets salivating over the Chinese floods following on from the German floods.

    Of course, man made climate change is the cause of the problem…. bbc quote… ‘ Many factors contribute to flooding, but a warming atmosphere caused by climate change makes extreme rainfall more likely.’


    However, a quick research on Duck duck and I find this.


    From 1928 to 1930, there had been a drought in China; this was followed by a particularly cold and harsh winter. Snow and ice built up in the mountainous regions where the rivers originate and, when spring arrived, naturally melted. The meltwater raised the level of the rivers. This happened practically every year, and those living along the rivers were accustomed to it, but this year it coincided with particularly heavy spring rain.

    Come summer, China was hit by a powerful monsoon, which followed so closely upon the spring rain that it might as well have been one constant deluge. The Yangtze basin would usually expect to be hit by two cyclonic storms in a year, but in July 1931 there were seven; the equivalent of eighteen months’ rain fell in that one month alone.

    Not so unusual BBC………..


  46. Guest Who says:

    Kids in Asia know.

    The girls in W1A being counselled?

    And the wimmin.


  47. Thoughtful says:

    Ah it seems there is a God and he is playing some very amusing tricks with Karma on the silly US Democrats.

    Remember the Texas Democrats who crammed onto a private jet on an ‘heroic’ mission to Washington to prevent the Republicans getting a quorum on a voting integrity issue?

    Well it turns out that jet was a flying petri dish which led to them becomming super spreaders, and now Nasty Pelosi speaker of the house has been infected by a new heroic form of covid caught from her errant colleagues.

    One of her press officers has also been infected and 6 of the party who infected everyone else have now also tested positive.

    Schadenfreude !


  48. taffman says:

    I don’t think Al Beeb wants to report the Channel Invasion any more ?


  49. Guest Who says:

    BBC News

    Extreme Heat weather warnings are currently in place in the UK.

    BBC Wales’ Sabrina Lee is here to explain what that means, and what’s causing the heatwave at the moment.


    It is a very hot day in UK summer.

    These can happen.

    Extreme heat is what the Lobsters risking the Covid quarantine coming back from places with actual extreme heat went out for.


    • NCBBC says:

      This present hot weather is just another way to gee up the climate change fraud.

      In timely fashion, Merkel is claiming that floods are due to climate change, and Germany/Europe must immediately reduce its CO2 output.

      Germany, the most industrial high tech nation in the world, and the most ardent climate change believer, intends to save the planet. Yet cant save itself from the effects of a flood.

      We know in this blog that man-made climate change is a fraud. But if it were true, then its effects would be far greater then the flood in Germany. And like Germany today with a local flood, we wont be able to do anything about it.


  50. Guest Who says:

    Stop. The. Presses!

    With pictures. And analysis.


    • Non Snowflake says:

      And by the looks of things they don’t like some black lorries. Just wait until Lewis Hamilton and Marcus Rashford see this…….


    • Guest Who says:

      Clearly the importance of this to the BBC is being underestimated.


    • BRISSLES says:

      If they want anymore misspelt place signs – (what is this ? kids tv ?)
      then a place near me is St Ippollits or St Ippolytts, or St Ippollyts, and the headline for a website…….

      St Ippollitts, St Ipolyts, St Ippolyts or what, exactly? – North …https://northhertsmuseum.org › st-ippollitts-st-ipolyts-st-…
      15 Feb 2021 — The church of St Hippolytus: a source of confusion? There is a village to the south of Hitchin with a name that is notoriously difficult to …

      More fodder for you BBC !


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