487 Responses to Midweek Thread 4 August 2021

  1. MarkyMark says:

    Canon Colin Semper

    A producer in the religious broadcasting department. He told the review team that he had come to be aware that Savile was having casual sex with a large number of women and some of them “might have been underage”.



  2. MarkyMark says:

    Shhhh …. shhhh … silence …. shhhhhhh …. ask for some money form Sauid and Iran!

    Many societies throughout history have practised slavery, and Muslim societies were no exception.

    It’s thought that as many people were enslaved in the Eastern slave trade as in the Atlantic slave trade.

    It’s ironic that when the Atlantic slave trade was abolished the Eastern trade expanded, suggesting that for some Africans the abolition of the Atlantic trade didn’t lead to freedom, but merely changed their slave destination.”


  3. MarkyMark says:

    Islam is the greatest of good .. “Slavery was common in pre-Islamic times and accepted by many ancient legal systems and it continued under Islam.”


  4. Guest Who says:

    As you do… if… #viewsmyown


  5. Dover Sentry says:

    BBC Online News:

    “Extinction Rebellion: Judge demands review of protester convictions”

    “City of London Magistrates’ Court acquitted Ben Benatt, an environmental scientist, saying that it was not proportionate to give him a criminal record given his right to peacefully demonstrate, the limited nature of the disruption he caused and his genuinely-held beliefs.”


    Our BBC are always on the side of XR and their Woke/Marxist determination to destroy capitalism.


  6. taffman says:

    Looking at Al Beeb’s headline page and can’t see much going on in Bradford?
    What are they hiding ?


  7. theisland says:

    Over 400 invaders today.
    French ship in our waters again.
    Five RNLI boats assisting BF.
    Just who do the traitors comprising our government think they are?


    • taffman says:

      Has the present government cabinet come to some secret agreement with the French to off load all their ‘migrant jungles’ upon us ? Our leader is more interested in his ‘Green issues’.
      We are being run by idiots .

      What are the rest of the Tory MPs doing about the invasion, hiding in their bunkers until the next general election?


  8. Halifax says:

    Defund the RNLI.


    • digg says:

      They have had their last donation from me! They have joined the growing list of useful twats.


  9. Foscari says:

    I don’t know if outside London there is anything like
    our London regional programme on BBC TV Ours is a BLM
    organization type, which is celebrating the 10th anniversary of
    the London riots. Which happened in the aftermath of the
    police shooting dead the black gangster Mark Duggan who had
    been followed by the police after receiving guns from his dealer.
    For ten years now Riz Lateef one of the main presenters of
    the Londoniston programme has eulogized Mark Duggan
    periodically over the years. All that is missing in the studio is
    a statue of him.
    We were introduced to a rioter who has apparently reformed
    after we told that he was harshly arrested by the police and
    spent a year in Feltham’s young offenders prison. Where he
    told us he didn’t like . David Cameron was shown to be
    one of the villains of the peace. And Sadiq Khan our wonderful
    mayor told us that although things have improved for the
    types who committed the rioting ,that there is still a long way
    to go for improving their lot.
    Yes everybody outside the capitol this is the type of anarchic
    programme we are dished up in the capitol three times a day.


    • Dover Sentry says:

      Our BBC/Left have been desperate to make a martyr out of Duggan. He was a criminal gang leader who frequented the Broadwater Farm Estate in Tottenham.

      But, the facts got in the way of BBC hope.

      Does Pc Blakelock get a mention these days by our BBC?


  10. Sluff says:

    With all these middle class whiteys winning gold medals in sailing and equestrian, are they not allowed to withdraw citing mental health issues or injuries they were already carrying prior to arriving in Japan?
    It all seems so unfair.


  11. digg says:

    I read an absolutely disgusting story about a 9 year old girl being raped and killed by a bunch of absolute animals in India. She was despatched at the local watering hole having been sent there by her mother to collect water. The building was overseen by the local religious leaders.

    These upright men including the religious leader at the building forced her immediate cremation by setting her alight before the police arrived to prevent the police from collecting any evidence. (Sperm etc)..

    This is the sort of shitty horrible detritus we have people in our own country bellowing to be allowed into the UK.

    It makes me sick and very angry!

    These people are natural beasts and liars and have no place in any civilised country.


    • StewGreen says:

      I looked it up .. Their is little concrete evidence of rape
      but no doubt something weird and tragic has gone on
      There is so much political capital to be made from making out it’s a proven story of child rape by the priest class.

      It does seem there were 4 guys and the kids body on the inside of the cemetery gate
      And a story that the body was put on the funeral pyre
      Then the crowd and police get in
      but I wouldn’t put much faith in a confession allegedly neaten out of one of the guys by the crowd.
      You certainly can’t rule rape out
      but neither a weird kind of accident.

      There’s a report which does open in an incognito window to get around the blocking



      • digg says:

        My point being that this sort of crushing and mangling of the truth by the protected class that these ethnics regard as acceptable is now coming to this Country.


  12. Thoughtful says:

    Can anyone here imagine for a moment one of the supine cowardly boot licking useless incompetent Tories ever addressing Parliament with the anger and passion of this man ?


  13. vlad says:

    Because the BBC doesn’t want to cover this story, I feel compelled to.

    A week after being savagely stabbed in the face by a Mostly Peaceful Religionist, the irrepressible Hatun Tash was back at Speakers Corner on Sunday, sporting a rather fetching Charlie Hebdo t-shirt. Naturally, the assembled savages went ballistic and tried to drown her out with their war chant, Allahu Akbar.

    The reason they hate her so much, is that she and a few other heroic souls are telling the assembled muslims some home truths about their religion that literally threaten to destroy it.

    That sounds like a grand claim, but serious scholars are finding huge holes in the standard narrative, and are seriously questioning every aspect of it, including whether mohammed ever even existed. This has the nuclear potential of bringing down the whole edifice, or at the very least forcing a complete re-think.

    So far, ordinary muslims have been sheltered from these findings, but now we have little 5′ 2″ Hatun yelling it to their faces week after week – and boy do they hate it.

    YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/c/pfanderfilms/videos

    A recent book on the subject is: Did Muhammad Exist?

    Amusing side note: one of the very favourable reviews in the preface of the book was penned by Noor bin Ladin, who is none other than Osama’s niece. Who says Allah doesn’t have a sense of humour?


  14. Up2snuff says:

    TWatO Watch #1 – in which Ed Stourton misses some great opportunities

    Ed is standing in while the Montacutie is on her hols. One item was the recommendation by the JCVI that a Covid vaccine is given to 16 to 18 year olds. Professor Sir Peter Openshaw was on the programme and Ed missed a great opportunity while asking lots of leading questions of the Prof.

    Ed could – and should – have asked the Prof whether it would better to let young people develop natural immunity to the virus.

    Ed could – and should – have asked the Prof whether the vaccines were effective at preventing Covid infection when we have examples recently of vaccinated people, Sajid Javid (SoS for Health) still catching the virus.

    He could – and should – have asked the Prof whether the PCR and LF tests were accurate and if he thought they were, to rate each one as to efficacy.

    Stourton could – and should – have asked the Prof whether in his view this was a natural virus or whether it was a bio weapon.

    Very poor performance from a BBC Senior Presenter.


  15. tomo says:

    pfff 2020 was weird but 2021 ….

    Hold my beer


  16. Thoughtful says:

    Wow, with this breaking story by Tucker Carlson, that the US media (and very probably the British Media) were paid millions by the Chinese government in order to run propaganda on their behalf, newscoverage of covid makes an abrupt change when this happens and the NYT is so sensitive about it, that it has removed several of its on line articles.

    The BBC with its unique funding model should have been immune to the blandishments of Communist money for propaganda, but it appears that because Trump was telling some inconvenient truths they decided to take the opposite view along with their biased American colleagues. Thus potentially one of the greatest arguments for preservation of the TV tax has been tossed into the fire, because when the time came for them to show their independence and truthfulness, they decided to follow the herd against Donald Trump.


    • StewGreen says:

      Tucker’s source is The Spectator’s World edition article by Dominic Green (historian and the deputy editor)

      “A top editor at the New York Times instructed Times staffers not to investigate the origins of COVID-19, two Times employees confirmed today.”

      “The global pandemic was then in its early stages. Donald Trump was running for reelection and calling SARS-CoV-2 the ‘Chinese virus’. His secretary of state Mike Pompeo had told ABC’s This Week in May 2020 that he had seen ‘significant’ and ‘enormous evidence’ of the virus originating in the Wuhan Institute of Virology.”

      “In November 2019, it emerged that China Daily had failed to disclose to federal authorities millions of dollars in payments to US outlets including the Times and the Washington Post.
      – In August 2020, the Times quietly scrubbed the China-funded advertorials from its website. Still, in October 2020, the Times ran an op-ed by Regina Ip, a member of Hong Kong’s Executive Council, justifying the repression of anti-government protests in the Hong Kong SAR”.


  17. richard D says:

    BBC’s Olympics teleprompter-reader, Alex Scott …… who apparently, because of her up-bringing, just can’t pronounce the letter ‘g’ at the end of any word – e.g. fencin’, runninn’, swimmin’, divin’, sailin’, etc., etc. ….but clearly referred this evening to some words of wisdom from Claire Balding as….. some words of wisdom ‘from Clare Balding’….note – absolutely no problem whatsoever in clearly pronouncin’ a ‘g’ at the end of her co-presenter’s name. And you can probably bet your last penny that her ‘glottal stops’ are just as fake.


    • vlad says:

      Just an affectation, ‘proud of my working class roots’, woman-of-the-people sort of thing.

      The lefty beeb love all that, probably gave her reverse elocution lessons.

      Repeat after me: “The rine in Spine sties minely in the pline, innit.”

      By George, she’s got it!


    • Scroblene says:

      And a few ‘wivs’…


  18. Guest Who says:

    Shared without comment.

    My views are my own.


    • StewGreen says:

      UK death rate 1,904/million ..20th in the world
      Poland Belgium, Italy have more

      Japan has 121
      So UK is 16 times worse NOT 20
      Not that I believe Japanese figures

      Norway, Venezuela and Bangladesh are around the same as Japan
      Lots of non-island countries have lower rates


      • africamike says:

        Bear in mind also that different countries employ different methods of attributing deaths to covid, so one is always comparing apples with pears.


        • StewGreen says:

          of course Mike, it’s comparing different varieties of apples
          but that detracts away from my point that Lammy wrongly claims
          “we’ve had almost 20 times the Covid death rate of island nations like Japan.”

          16 times is not almost 20 times


    • MarkyMark says:

      Mao did more good than harm (c) DIane Abbott


  19. vlad says:

    Once again GB News going where our wee timorous beastie BBC won’t.

    They focus here on the freedom of speech aspect of the Speakers’ Corner attack, and the shocking fact that the police a) didn’t prevent it and b) 10 days after the attack still haven’t arrested anyone despite it happening in broad daylight in the middle of London, with dozens of witnesses and even photos of the suspect. Sounds to me like they’re really not trying hard. They claim not to know the motive! Anyone with half a brain knows the motive.

    Incidentally the muslim ‘community’, who must know the attacker, seem to be protecting him.
    Silence is violence, remember?


    • MarkyMark says:

      1985 … 1985 … not that long ago …

      Ahmadis suffer vicious persecution around the world. The main source of fuel for that persecution is in Pakistan, but what happens in Pakistan does not stay in Pakistan.

      I know that from my experience in the Yorkshire market town of Batley. In August 1985, when I was 11 years old, my parents organised an inter-faith meeting in the town hall. It was interrupted and disturbed when, according to West Yorkshire police, more than 1,000 extremists, led by Pakistani hate preachers funded by the Pakistani state, were bused in from around the country. The mob brutally attacked my English mother and my father, a dermatologist; my eldest brother and I; and a Welsh Ahmadi schoolteacher who was with us. My first cousin, a GP, was by chance driving through the market town that day. He saw the mob and saw his family and friends being attacked, so he stopped. He was recognised, pulled from his vehicle and savagely beaten up.



  20. taffman says:

    In 1588 ‘Good Queen Bess’ kept the might of the Spanish Armada at bay . Now in 2021, the Tory Government cannot keep the French Rubber Dingy Invaders from our shores . We have a ‘leader’ of our country who is more concerned about our gas boilers.

    The British Government has failed to defend its people while Al Beeb reports nothing about our vulnerability. There will be trouble ahead………………..


  21. tomo says:

    BA Flight 146 into Kuwait…. August 1990… I was out in the area at the time.

    A couple of colleagues shared accommodation with the passengers and crew in Baghdad.

    Beyond being human shields – one of my main memories is that British Airways told the flight crew that their incarceration was being rolled into their annual leave allotment!


  22. Halifax says:

    11 arrested over HATE comments during the Euro finals.

    I wonder how many HATE comments were posted in the UK relating to President Trump ??


    • JohnC says:

      Or how many people have been arrested for hate towards Brexiteers. Because in the run up to the referendum, there were many which were pure hatred – and there still are.
      I detest the ethics of the Left.


      • Jeff says:

        And if I remember rightly a certain BBC “comedian” (still working for the corporation) thought it would be a jolly wheeze to throw battery acid in Nigel Farage’s face.

        Oh, how they laughed…


  23. Fedup2 says:

    Breaking my ‘no cut and paste of DT pieces because people don’t bother reading them rule ‘-

    Below is a piece from today about current TV viewing habits – enjoy (btw- i dumped Netflix’s after 3 months – too much trash and too woke for me )

    Netflix is now subscribed to by a majority of British households for the first time, as viewers turn away from traditional television.

    Hit series like Bridgerton propelled the streaming giant ahead of its paid-for competition in the UK, with 52 per cent of households now signed up.

    Pay services such as Sky and Virgin are viewed in 48 per cent of Britain’s 28 million television-watching households, according to an Ofcom report which has revealed traditional channels suffered a slump in 2020.

    Despite people watching more television on average during the long months of lockdown, traditional broadcasters’ share of the audience fell from 67 per cent in to 61 per cent in the face of online competition.

    Ofcom found that 2020 was a “landmark year for subscription video-on-demand, both in the UK and internationally”, adding that “the jump was the biggest annual increase yet”.

    There was a “surge” in subscriptions for Netflix, increasing by three million in only one year, with 14 million UK households now signed up.

    The increasing dominance of the service comes after a drift away from traditional television, which experts believe has been accelerated by the Covid-19 lockdown and the demand for more home entertainment.

    While viewers over 45 increased their overall viewing time during the pandemic in 2020, up to three hours 12 minutes each day, the elusive 16-24 audience coveted by broadcasters such as the BBC tuned in for only 17 minutes.

    This younger cohort previously sat down to watch more than an hour of television in 2019, and Ofcom has noted that this steep decline comes amid a switch to streaming services, YouTube and increasingly TikTok.

    Despite highlighting the difficulties of retaining younger viewers, the media regulator also found that Britons spent the majority of the 2020 lockdown period watching television.

    ‘Pandemic turbo-charged viewing to streaming services’

    Yih-Choung Teh, Ofcom’s group director, strategy and research, said: “TV and online video have proved an important antidote to lockdown life, with people spending a third of their waking hours last year glued to screens for news and entertainment.”

    “The pandemic undoubtedly turbo-charged viewing to streaming services, with three in five UK homes now signed up.”

    While 2020 was a boom year for streaming services, with Amazon boasting 9.5 million subscribers in the UK, Ofcom has warned that the success of the pandemic period will not be repeated as life returns to normal.

    The regulator’s report stated the increase was driven by “the circumstances created by Covid-19 lockdowns, which increased consumer demand” and a “growing investment in content” audiences were interested in.

    The long-term improvement of broadband internet across the country has also played a part in making streaming services more accessible, Ofcom concluded.

    Mr Teh said: “With subscriber growth slowing into 2021 and lockdown restrictions easing, the challenge for the likes of Netflix, Amazon and Disney will be to ensure a healthy pipeline of content and keep customers signed up.”ENDS


    • JohnC says:

      A bit off-topic but in my eternal search for something decent to watch I looked up the ‘Hit series Bridgerton’ to see what it was.
      Black man inserted into historical drama.
      Scored 7.3. Means nothing – checked user comments.
      First comment: 1 star and ‘Unimaginative, watered down and racist’ and all the rest pretty much the same. I did get some entertainment selecting only the 10 star reviews and reading what the left-wing hypocrite idiots wrote. And of course the ‘Don’t believe the 1 star reviews’ written by the people involved.

      So my search continues. Any recent dramas I might enjoy anyone ?. The wife likes historical stuff where they all wear costumes and I like anything where I can actually believe it in it’s context.


      • Fedup2 says:

        That trash was one of the reasons I listed for myself to cancel Netflix – and I told them that . Making programmes for the purpose of rewriting the past – in order to insert a 2021 message just isn’t on .

        Doing such a thing will reduce their rate of expansion . However saying that – as we witness here daily – the ‘terrestrial ‘TV is so dire now that people are rapidly turning away .

        Also – when the likes of the BBC have a ‘hit ‘ they flog it to death …


        • JohnC says:

          The BBC approach is to take a good story written by someone else and dramatise it. Something the BBC are good at because of all our money they have. If it proves popular, use the original stories until they run out then use it’s popularity to write some more episodes which are entirely agenda based and shove them in front of the audience they didn’t earn. Inevitably these turn the whole series to sh1t – but you get a good few million people brainwashed a little bit more before it’s cancelled because the ratings went through the floor.
          Artistically, it’s absolutely unethical. But the Left have no real ethics at all – just the ones they pretend to have when it suits them.


      • Scroblene says:

        JohnC, we pop across to ‘Music Magpie’ or ‘World of books’ on Ebay, and choose anything we like for just a few quid! The local charity shop does a roaring trade too!

        The latest offer is ‘A dance to the music of time’, but isn’t quite matching your criteria by a few years…

        Another wheeze we like is to get a Chromecast, which you stick in the back of your TV and control through an iPad! Loads of progs/series on YouTube in the comfort of your own lounge!


        • JohnC says:

          Here in Thailand I have a mini-PC under the TV which runs Kodi. I rarely watch stuff directly from the internet. You can download most things from Youtube using JDownloader and watch them full-screen without getting bombarded with advertisements.
          Youtube is the only place left to get the real old gold for my collection now. I’ve just been getting all the Frankie Howard sequels to Up Pompeii and every now and then I find something I never even heard of. For example : The spinoff from On The Buses where Blakey goes to live in Spain called ‘Don’t drink the water’ !!.
          I’ve been also watching ‘Edd China’s workshop’ which is quite entertaining if you like that sort of thing. The latest gem I found is a radio series sequel to Dad’s Army called ‘It sticks out half a mile’.
          They are all a bit rubbish – but a breath of fresh air compared to anything recent. No agenda whatsoever and when Frankie Howard calls a woman a stupid cow, I laugh at the thought of the woke mob meltdown if they saw it.


      • Up2snuff says:

        John, what about fillums? Titanic. Revolution. Far from the Madding Crowd. Oliver. My Fair Lady. Dr Zhivago.


        • JohnC says:

          Fillums are good – if they are decent. Unfortunately almost every single one since about 2016 is complete and utter J Arthur.
          One of the few I enjoyed recently was the Kingsman sequel which the Left decided they hated because it dared to suggest women went to festivals looking for sex – which I think made me enjoy it a bit more. Pure, silly-but-not-stupid entertainment.
          I also recently enjoyed The History of Mr Polly with Lee Evans from 2007 far more than I expected.
          So that’s my cup-of-tea. All recommendations accepted :-).


          • Up2snuff says:

            Yes, modern films either seem to be woke remakes or as you say, ranking not rating. That’s why I listed old uns. Two of those are in my all time Top Ten. I could and should have added the Italian Job, anything with Steve McQueen and as Barbra Streisand was on the BBC’s web-site yesterday: What’s Up, Doc? That one film injured my ribs for three days.

            One ‘modern’ film that is worth watching is The Death of Stalin. Speaking of laughter and laughing, I struggled to stop laughing during that – it was in a public showing – there may have been Lefties present, but it is so realistically ‘telling’ about all things Communist.

            History of Mr Polly! Phew! Takes me back to schooldays. I’ll have to watch out for that.


            • Rob in Cheshire says:

              I enjoyed “The Death of Stalin”, but really the actors playing Krushchev and Beria should have swapped roles. Krushchev was quite burly and Beria was slight, but they were played by Steve Buscemi and Simon Russell Beale respectively, when it should have been the other way round.


          • Kaiser says:

            we enjoyed The Professor and the Madman despite it being panned by the “critics”, but then I hate the stuff they like anyway


    • tomo says:

      A memo gone out?

      BBC web this morning:

      The Chinese are sending out crude propaganda

      It’s almost like they feel the need to redirect from the sort of revelations that Tucker Carlson covered in the piece linked above.

      Not like the BBC ever took money from say Brussels to push propaganda.

      That said – things are ramping up around the Taiwan straights business (Biden’s people have dispatched a carrier battle group) and one has to wonder at the UK’s carrier en route there too….


    • tomo says:

      Netflix is an adjustment of the broadcast model – I stick with YouTube since they still (for the moment) have a deep archive albeit one increasingly polluted with inappropriately inserted ads using the old trick of messing with the audio level.

      “Ofcom has warned that the success of the pandemic period will not be repeated as life returns to normal”

      – not so sure about that …. a resurgence of the printed word wouldn’t be a bad thing imho


      • Scroblene says:

        I watched the fabulous film – ‘if…’ (Lindsay Anderson), on YouTube, and while it’s in sections, it’s easy to re-click!

        BTW, there’s a scene when the lads are lining up for supper, and a bit of banter at around 12.15 in the first part, mentions the name ‘Biles’…

        For God’s sake, don’t tell the BBC…


        • Fedup2 says:

          .ah yes – comrade Anderson – I’m sure he is ‘was Jeremy Corbyn s favourite champagne socialist …


  24. Fedup2 says:

    What the Chinese virus might have done is alerted more people to just how much of a propaganda machine the BBC now is – hence the move to Netflix .

    I recall – during the early lockdown – that the BBC hadn’t made and schedule changes to ‘daytime ‘ and were still putting out that insulting crap about auctions and things under the hammer or in the attic .
    Obviously not stuff I watch but felt a bit for people suffering it . The BBC points to the consumption of its’ News during ‘events ‘ but even then people must have looked aghast at the dumbed down lefty propaganda with myrie – alagiah chackrabatti – meeshhalll speaking like they are talking to 5 year olds …


  25. Doublethinker says:

    Another article in the Telegraph lamenting the first six months of Biden’s Presidency. This time the author is Alistair Heath.
    As usual for a MSM article it contains the obligatory side swipe at President Trump and those who continue to believe that the election was rigged. The fiction that Trump was an insane baddy and that Biden won fair and square must be maintained.

    In the article The list of disasterous Biden policies , I use the term Biden but of course they are not his policies but those of his ultra Woke puppet masters, is very long, the harm they are doing described as grievous and the fear is that the US may not be able to recover from them is highlighted.

    What I find extraordinary is the surprise of the author at these policies because that Biden is only doing the things he campaigned on . Trump repeatedly warned that this is what would happen but fools like Heath wrote articles denigrating Trump and supporting the Democrats. I suppose the Telegraph felt that Trump’s MAGA policies were threatening the cosy liberal consensus which had ruled the west for thirty years and that Biden and the Woke Democrats were the lesser of two evils or perhaps more easily controlled . We on this site knew better , perhaps most of the commentariat are even thicker than we thought.


    • Fedup2 says:

      Double – I’m not so sure about ‘thick ‘ but they do know that they have to make approved noises to get their wages and appearances on lucrative TV shows – like QT – and the spins offs held out as carrots …

      I guess the only way we will have an indication of who is running the false presidents ‘ White House is when he dies or when they kill him .


    • Fedup2 says:

      Double – the comments on the DT could be going better for Mr Heath . Maybe since he claims the election wasn’t rigged – he should prove it ….
      The US Feds must have their work cut out monitoring those unhappy about what has happened – particulary since those Feds belong to the lefties now


  26. AsISeeIt says:

    That’s the way to do it…

    Invective aimed at puppeteers.

    The big push now is to get youngsters jabbed.

    Children may be given Covid jabs at school‘ (Telegraph)

    Vacc to school. 1.4m teens to get the first Pfizer jab as soon as possible. 16 & 17 year olds will not need parental conscent‘ (freebie Metro)

    Now all OVER-12s could be jabbed‘ (Daily Mail)

    The kids may have a statistically infinitesimal chance of catching a fatal infection and the long-term side effects of these vaccines remain unknown – having bypassed the normal drug test regimes. But we do have millions of guinea pigs participating in the mass trial – and a sizeable control group of refusniks, so we’ll see how that goes.

    It would be nice to be able to make an informed – dare one say “adult” – decision about one’s medical care. And yet can one really be confident to take official information and statistics at face value? Or has the flow of data to the public been skewed toward support for pre-determined policy? The several examples of pre-lockdown press conference modelling forecasts being exposed as debunked, in just hours and days following the introduction of the new restrictions they supported, tends to have erroded rather than consolidated public trust.

    The BBC dutifully supplies a headline stat in support of the push to jab children this morning. And a well-timed and wonderfully fine example of a impressive sounding – yet open to misunderstanding – number it is too: ‘Covid: Fifth of England hospital admissions aged 18-34

    So, first question: how many in that somewhat arbitrarily cut off at the top end at 34 group are there, and how many under 18?

    Having headlined a solid-sounding stat the BBC back it up with a less than scientific sounding quote: ‘One-in-five people currently in hospital in England with Covid are aged between 18 and 34, the new chief executive of NHS England has said. In her first major interview, Amanda Pritchard told the BBC that about 1,000 young adults were currently “really unwell” in hospital

    The tell tale phrase “with Covid” is noticable and rather interestingly our new in the job and on her very best behaviours Amanda Pritchard would seem to define those under 35 as “young adults” – unless there’s some editorial elision here commited by the BBC.

    A thousand is one of those largish round numbers that sounds impressive. A grand – or a bag of sand – as cockney rhyming slang would have it.

    In reality it is a vanishingly small percentage of the UK population and not that big a number as a proportion of total NHS beds. Are these young adults all in the NHS “really unwell” special units perhaps?

    We’re just not told. Our Amanda Pritchard is not here to enlighten the public with all the facts and figures that may confuse the kiddies. She has a message to deliver and having reeled off something we suspect to be a bit of a red herring of a stat, she soon comes to the point: ‘She said it was “so important” people came forward to get vaccinated

    The BBC will of course fact check the living daylights out of Tory government policy in any other area of responsibilty but you won’t hear a dickybird of challenge on this important issue.

    Well, if 13 year olds are old enough to win an Olympic medal – some might say it rather devalues the currency – but our media have no qualms. The Daily Star gets most excited: ‘Sky, 13, wins bronze and is worth £3.5m now all parents say.. Let’s get the kids skateboards!

    Health and safety be damned

    In other news the ‘i’ newspaper reminds us: ‘Abuse in Leicester’s fast fashion sweatshops – one year after promised crackdown. Workers still exploited. No prosecutions‘ – one always likes to give credit where credit is due and despite the left-leanings of the ‘i’ one has to admire their frontpage cameo pic of our big talk no action Home Secretary Priti Patel beside the further sub-header on the Asian-run sweatshops: ‘Bad bosses still in charge

    Undercooked England collapse against India‘ (Telegraph) – is a cricket headline, I’ll have you know.

    UK calm in face of Iran threat, says Raab‘ (Telegraph) – is, meanwhile, presumably meant to reassure.

    And let’s conclude on a story representing something of a sad sign of the times – or as the artist formerly – and late lamentedly – known as Prince might have spelt it out to us “Sign O’ The Times

    This comes from the formerly patriotic Times newspaper which this morning presents us with a frontpage bare torso beach trucks shot of Barrack Obama – the sort of pose Vladimir Putin would catch western liberal flak and scoffing for – with the rhetorical question: ‘Why men want a body like Obama’s‘ – what… black?

    But I digress. While we’re on the beach: ‘Mr Punch cowers from sweary parents‘ – this is my sign of the times story: ‘Punch and Judy have been hurling abuse at each other on Britain’s seafronts for hundreds of years… Invective aimed at puppeteers when they ask for money after a performance is threatening the traditional shows‘ – but this apparent roughening of the behaviour of our population is not my point, despite our Punch and Judy “professors” expiriencing: ‘a lot of effing and blinding… people are getting more angry‘ – that’s as maybe.

    But what about this telling observation from the chap with his hand up Mr Punch, a swazzle in his mouth and a finger on the pulse of the public mood: ‘...the misconception that Punch and Judy shows were provided and funded by the council had made people resentful about paying

    State-provided entertainment… hummm? A sign of a big impending angry backlash against the BBC? Or alternatively a revelation that people complacently think every service, every aspect of life, they see around them has now come within the purview and they assume the responsibilty of the State?

    Food for thought. Now over to some right-leaning think tank – to pick up and chew over.


  27. Up2snuff says:

    BBC Radio Flaw’s Framing Today – the narrative continues

    I caught the last three minutes of the programme and it was a whinge about Brexit difficulties, driver shortages and empty shelves with a helpful contributor to agree with leading questions from, I think, Anna Hill.

    Funny thing, with all that upheaval and the Pandemic as well, every time I go in to a supermarket there is plenty of stuff on the shelves. Now, there’s a thing.


    • richard D says:

      Of course, Up2snuff….. but you have to realise that your ‘lived experience’ doesn’t actually qualify as real ‘lived experience. That’s the prerogative only given to left-wing activists (like those at, or regularly interviewed by, the BBC) and/or ‘minorities’.

      Repeat daily, in the style of the inimitable sketch by Ronnie Corbett/Ronnie Barker/John Cleese….. “I know my place….”


      • Up2snuff says:



      • TrickCyclist says:

        Traditionally, doesn’t the left count the ‘lived experience’ of ordinary people as ‘anecdotal evidence’ and therefore not worth considering?


  28. Guest Who says:

    In the middle there…. ‘Claims’.

    BBC Tweenies in its happy place.


  29. Guest Who says:

    When will Vile get Ash on to ‘quote’ on matters wet?


  30. Guest Who says:

    Clear. The. Schedules!

    Any seeking a bit of man on man action from back in the day could always try big Al and Olly directed by Ken.


    • Up2snuff says:

      Yes, that was good (modern) film. Can’t remember what it was called now, the Laurel and Hardy biopic.


  31. Guest Who says:

    Much explained.


  32. MarkyMark says:

    Modern Labour … ‘In 2008, during a BBC One This Week interview between Abbott, Michael Portillo and Andrew Neil about who was history’s worst dictator, Abbott said about the Chinese leader Mao Zedong: “I suppose some people will judge that on balance Mao did more good than harm…’

    In 1958, he launched the Great Leap Forward that aimed to rapidly transform China’s economy from agrarian to industrial, which led to the deadliest famine in history and the deaths of 15–55 million people between 1958 and 1962.


  33. taffman says:

    “Nearly a third of waking hours spent on TV and streaming, Ofcom says”
    I would wager that most of those viewers avoid the trash on Al Beeb.


  34. Guest Who says:

    The spirit of Thommo lives on!


  35. MarkyMark says:

    BBC Radio 4, 20 July 2021

    An interview with Lord Sumption about civil liberties contained statistics which were not challenged at the time.

    He said that ‘the virus has not killed over 100,000 people’ and that a large number have died with Covid but not of it.

    In England and Wales more than 120,000 death certificates have recorded Covid-19 as an underlying cause of death according to figures collated by the Office for National Statistics (ONS).

    Lord Sumption said that for older people, ‘at the age which they had reached, they would probably have died within a year’ anyway.

    Life expectancy before the pandemic for an 80 year old was 9 years for a man and 10 years for a woman.

    Lord Sumption said that ‘it’s a matter of hundreds and not thousands’ of deaths of people who were not in highly vulnerable groups with serious comorbidities on their death certificate.

    By the end of March 2021 the ONS says almost 16,000 deaths in England & Wales had been caused by Covid in cases where there were no other underlying conditions recorded on the death certificate.




    • taffman says:

      Its about time Lord Sumption got the support of the rest of the Tory MPs.


    • Up2snuff says:

      MM, the BBC’s numbers are incorrect in several places. I heard the BBC’s statistics expert try to correct Lord Sumption’s assertions on the following day on Radio Flaw but the Beeboid was wrong himself. Sorry, cannot remember his name, he’s Irish. That life expectancy was one of the inaccurate BBC corrections because life expectancy depends on where you have lived and worked and what you did for a job. Lord Sumption was talking about average UK Life Expectancy and was absolutely correct.


      • Up2snuff says:

        Mark Cuff, came to me while at the kitchen sink on wash-up duties …..

        That’s the Beeboid. He was in error more than Lord Sumption although I have to qualify that, in that I did not hear the interview with the former Judge so cannot be certain what he said.


  36. taffman says:

    “Migrant Channel crossings: 281 people reach the UK”
    How many EU countries are telling their illegals to “Go West Young, Man Go West”.
    Meanwhile, our French neighbours are being paid by us to laugh their cotton socks off at us.

    Tory Government, what Tory Government ?
    How long before the ‘SH, one T’ hits the fan?


    • theisland says:

      Meanwhile – there is a new date for a ‘telephone hearing’ for the Dover Harbour Board to get an injunction to stop Steve et al. filming.


      • tomo says:

        £10k a head for dobbing in people smugglers might be good value compared to shoving UK taxes to French “sort-of police”?


      • Charlie Farley says:

        Not BBC as we avoid it like the Plague , Just sent a question to RNLI ‘ are you doing free boat trips to France or is it just one way ? ‘ , Don’t suppose there will be any reply but it does gives me a small amount of pleasure being a nuisance !


    • theisland says:

      UPDATE – 495 yesterday (probably a reliable estimate). This is why the government want to stop the filming.



      • Thatcherrevolutionary says:

        I can only assume that the African invaders are being purposefully imported.


        • Londoner says:

          Yes TR I feel sure you are correct in your assumption. I’ve come to the realisation that the broad liberal left in this country has an agenda whose main aim is the destruction of the English nation. Many of these are themselves English and I’m still puzzled as to why so many of our people seem to hate their own.

          What better way to destroy a nation than to allow, and indeed, encourage an enormous number of people who do not love us, and to instil a sense of guilt into the host nation if they raise any objection to that policy. The third world invaders from Africa and Asia who have settled here in their millions, with more still being encouraged to come by the English-hating left of the BBC etc. will destroy us with their birth rate. It’s that simple. I think the British left is wicked and is indulging in genocide by stealth.


  37. Foscari says:

    There is an article in the Guardian today by journalist Sirin
    Kale which should line her up with a top job at the BBC, June
    Sarpong watch out!
    Headed -Love , courage, solidarity 20 essential lessons young athletes taught us this summer. From telling us how brave Simone Bales has been to the England footballers taking the
    knee etc , etc it is just about the most sickening woke article
    you are ever likely to read.


  38. JohnC says:

    How a fake network pushes pro-China propaganda
    This caught my eye because the BBC say ‘.. aims to discredit the West sometimes with garish cartoons’.
    They then use a garish cartoon of a team of these fakesters on the front page to discredit China and another one at the start of the article !!. Unbelievable.
    But the real giveaway is the part where they ‘prove’ the users faces are fake by drawing a box which proves beyond doubt that a computer generated them because the eyes all line up. First thing I thought was how anyone could just zoom in/out and crop the image to make it look like that. So I looked closer : they have all been aligned so the eyes align from one side to agree with the assertion – but from the other side they are not the same. And the ones for the small girl are not even in the centre. And why would they fake a small girl anyway ??.
    What an absolutely terrible article. It’s like a visual episode of Panorama : they decided the conclusion at the start and tried every way they could – no matter how tenuous or far fetched – to desperately try and make you believe it.
    I’m sure China do have a propaganda team. And I’m sure we do too. Unfortunately ours includes the ridiculous amateurs at the BBC.


  39. theisland says:

    More on Lapsley.

    Just to be clear Lapsley is one of the Foreign Office traitors who was/is trying to keep us entwined with the EU Defence project. In October 2018 VfB posted this on their facebook page:
    Angus Lapsley, the Foreign Office official who advised Michael Fallon and Boris Johnson on whether joining Military EU was a good idea, is now overseeing the team engineering permanent UK attachment. Boris thought we were leaving it so under whose authority is this being done?

    Johnson was Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs from 2016 to 2018. He ?stupidly believed all the flannel from the Foreign Office. Certainly all our other MPs did (whether deliberately or not).

    Lapsley was later (2020) seconded to the MOD in order to ‘advise’ Ben Wallace.

    All the above was/is ignored by the bBC – too difficult for them.


  40. Fedup2 says:

    Reason for not being fired

    1 knows where the bones are buried
    2 good chap – one of us
    3 freemason
    4 powerful ‘ friends ‘
    5 combo of above


  41. JohnC says:

    Just saw a HYS on the BBC about people watching TV.
    Someone made a comment about how he doesn’t want to watch BBC agenda TV for the next ‘strictly’.
    To which a predictable BBC type posted ‘Homophobe?’
    So I made a comment about how everyone I know is sick of agenda TV and maybe he had the problem by having to name-call anyone who disagrees with him.
    Of course my comment has been deleted very quickly as off-topic. I think all 3 have gone : the BBC are very strict to censor any criticism these days.


    • Fedup2 says:

      ‘Approved thought ‘required to get an uptick / non deletion .

      Maybe it should be reformatted as ‘ have your approved view’


    • Dover Sentry says:

      I’ve noticed that. Our BBC watch HYS comments like hawks. What they can’t stop, is the down-ticking of Woke comments. When that happens, a new thread is started or they delete the thread.

      Have-Your-Say is anything but, and Nazi Socialist in its operation.


  42. vlad says:

    While our lily-livered politicians continue to dither over immigration, here’s how a Polish politician responded – much to the horror of Cathy Newman.

    (Yes, it’s a few weeks old, so go fact-check me.)


  43. theisland says:


  44. Guest Who says:

    Snowy still in his padded cell?


    • Fedup2 says:

      I do hope the rumour that discovery is going to but C4 – then it can show all the olypics it bought in 3 years time a hopefully as a pay to view job .
      Snow can retire and cathy newman can return to her spiritual home – the BBC …


  45. Guest Who says:

    Timmeh! certainly earning his executive market rate. Not.

    Lineker must have photos of Champion and the goat, an awesome contract or something sweet lined up elsewhere.


  46. Guest Who says:

    Sopes hoping no one will realise his hero means in a ditch by the freeway.


  47. The Mouse says:

    BBC Report on main Website and now can be found under Coronavirus on BBC Website.

    Covid: Fifth of England hospital admissions aged 18-34 so says Amanda Pritchard the new chief executive of NHS England.

    Graph in same report shows –
    3rd of August there was just under 6,000 patients in total in hospital. This means we have about 1,200 18-34 year olds. Amanda Pritchard goes on to add that “the level of young adults being admitted to hospital was four times higher than the peak last winter. About 5.5% of those in hospital during the winter surge were young adults”.

    Now hold on, the peak last winter was 38,000 – 5.5% of 38,000 is 2,090. (1,200 is not greater than 2,090)

    Something doesn’t add up. If they can’t get these simple things right what faith can we have in the BBC and NHS. It seems like that if the data fits the narrative then they use it and if it doesn’t fit then just ignore the data and still use the narrative.


    • Up2snuff says:

      TM, I have a lurking fear that Amanda Pritchard is of the same ilk as Dame Sally Davies who very nearly had widespread ebola in the UK while she was head of the now discredited Public Health (England).


  48. Kaiser says:

    oooooo theyve found a gay footballer


    Thetford Town F.C. … no me neither


    • Up2snuff says:

      K, big club that! (Sark alert.) ‘Far deep in the dark and complegating forrit’ as the late Professor Unwin would say.


  49. gb123 says:

    Some advice from the US that resonates here as well.

    Why don’t you do your job and secure the border.