Midweek Thread 18 August 2021

Parliament is recalled today to talk about ……. The failure of the US/UK in Afghanistan . An opportunity for the BBC to push its agenda of increased numbers of foreigners coming to the UK as well as spending more on overseas giveaways . It’s not bias – it is BBC social policy – paid for by legal extortion .

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460 Responses to Midweek Thread 18 August 2021

  1. Yasser Dasmibehbi says:

    At last a Brit posting about the Afghan invitees.

    Any MPs speaking out yet?

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  2. Up2snuff says:

    TWatO Watch #1 – a Prime Ministerial bashfest

    The PM has his faults but he didn’t deserve what the BBC and the Labour Party have done to him yesterday and today. I love Keir Starmer. All he does is criticise but doesn’t say what he would do. No ideas, no plan, worse than the PM all the time. And he has the cheek to tell the PM how to run his Party when, it is strongly rumoured, der Starmer cannot run his own Party that he leads. Laughable.

    Nowhere was it remembered that it was a Labour Party Prime Minister who got Britain involved and up to its ears and beyond in Afghanistan. Not mentioned by der Starmer. Too ashamed, perhaps? Not mentioned by the BBC wing of the Labour Party? BBC early onset dementia? And where were the Conservative back-benchers? Like Caroline Nokes MP yesterday they all seemed to be cowering behind the bulk of der Starmer in the Labour trenches.

    Warfare.

    Cowardice aplenty.

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    • gb123 says:

      To me , Starmer is the UK’s Biden. The only difference is Biden’s policies have been to reverse whatever Trump put in place, regardless of whether it was good bad or indifferent. Starmer would put Boris’s policies in place but make them worse or harder on the population.

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      • Up2snuff says:

        gb123, I think Starmer as PM would be in a terrible dither and would be worried that if he offended Ange or Di or Lisa or Jess, the knives would be out in an instant and stuck in his back and that would be the end.

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  3. vlad says:

    The autocuties at the increasingly feminised BBC are wringing their delicate little hands in anguish at the prospect that girls in Afghanistan might not get an education under the Taliban.

    (Boo-hoo, who cares? They want primitive Islam, they can live with the consequences.)

    Meanwhile here’s a proper grown-up discussion on the tactical and geo-strategic implications.
    Some main points:

    – Biden lied about the cost, in blood and treasure, of Afghanistan. The heavy lifting had already been done in the early years; now the small residual force could have continued to do the job of denying terrorists like Al-Qaeda a safe haven at minimal cost in dollars and lives to America. (There have been few US casualties since 2014 and none since February 2020.)

    – That small force served to prop up the Afghan Army, and also gave the Americans a crucial military presence near Iran and China.

    – The immense loss of prestige to the US is not just a matter of pride, but has real-world implications: it emboldens terrorist groups and hostile regimes like China and Iran.

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  4. Sluff says:

    It seems to be the case that places like France, Germany, Poland, Czech, Netherlands, to name but five, are all hastily arranging flights for their people and a few tens of Afghans out of Kabul.

    Which begs the questions the BBC are not asking.
    1. Why are we under any kind of moral obligation to allow tens of thousands of Afghans into our country, especially as we out in more of our own troops to keep those same Afghans relatively safe for twenty years?
    2. It appears that the UK is not unique in having an ‘intelligence failure’ so why is the UK uniquely to blame for anything?’

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  5. vlad says:

    I was wondering how long it would take for some useful idiot to trot out the ‘Religion of Peace’ lie.
    MP Stella Creasy (Labour, of course) just couldn’t make her little speech-ette on Afghanistan without throwing in the inevitable: ‘This is not Islam…it’s brutalism and terrorism’.

    She clearly hasn’t read the quran, the hadith and the sunnah, or she’d know it is most definitely islam – in its purest form, red in tooth and claw.

    She’s either cynically pandering to the muslim vote, or crassly ignorant. I don’t know which is worse.

    More on the wonders of islam here: https://www.thereligionofpeace.com/

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  6. Sluff says:

    The QT impartial panel tonight.

    James Cleverley, government minister
    Lisa Nandy.
    Rory Stewart, ex Tory remoaner and ex soldier
    Medhi Hasan, who is laughingly classed as ‘journalist’.
    Yeah right, check out his biog.
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mehdi_Hasan

    If I was Cleverly I would either run a mile, or grow a pair. But he will no doubt do neither and be meek, contrite, apologetic, and pathetic.

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  7. taffman says:

    Will Priti send back all the illegals that that she threatened to ? We will need all the room for the twenty thousand on the way.
    More houses, hospitals, schools, food imports, water etc needed now. Great Britain is a small overpopulated country. Goodbye England’s green and pleasant land.
    Have Tory voters been betrayed by their MPs?

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    • Jeff says:

      “Will Priti send back all the illegals that she threatened to?” Oh, come off it…

      Priti talks a good game, a bit like Boris Bunter, but she’s been an absolutely appalling flop.

      The number of illegals is actually increasing. There’s just no need for it. FFS, they can defend Hungary from Islamic invasion and they’re land locked! All it takes is the genuine desire to do it.

      We’re surrounded by sea and despite all Patel’s tough talk, we send out a bloody taxi service and escort the blighters in, putting them up in 4 star hotels. Is it any wonder they’re coming?

      Give me strength…

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      • Yasser Dasmibehbi says:

        Patel reminds me of Petain. Somebody whose slogan was “They shall not pass” but later when it came to it crumpled and collaborated with the enemy who surged across the border.
        Her welcome of 20,000 Afghans is shocking. An it seems to be the attitude of the entire Tory Party. I did see a clip of a Sir Patrick Swayne or some such name. He was a bit concerned in a polite milksop sort of way but then he was only concerned about the possibility of open borders and was quite comfortable with the 20,000.
        Is nobody going to oppose this with the force it deserves? I would hope to see fire and brimstone speeches from somebody over this.
        The Tory party really is behind Priti Petain.
        Where are the old Ukippers who fled to the tories?

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  8. Non Snowflake says:

    So thousands of Afghans want to get away from the horror and unpleasantness of Islam.

    And so they come to the UK…………

    They haven’t really thought this through, have they.

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    • taffman says:

      Where are all the other oil rich Middle Eastern States in all this –
      Shouldn’t they be taking their brothers ?

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    • Banania says:

      If they are coming here to escape Islam, will they work against it when they are here? If so, they would be useful.

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      • Jeff says:

        If you don’t mind me saying so Banania, that’s a very naive attitude to take.
        We just don’t know who might be coming along with the genuine escapees.

        Taking in refugees at such a time, particularly as we are undoubtedly culpable, is the right thing to do.

        However, it only takes a tiny percentage of those that make their homes here to cause absolute carnage.

        And it’s unlikely to be the children of the good and the great that are going to be blown to smithereens.

        It’s a heck of a risk…

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        • JohnC says:

          I think he is being ironic.
          These people don’t reject Islam. They reject being killed by the Taliban and they willingly accept money from anybody.
          After all my travels around the world, I am 100% certain they will remain devout Muslim’s, they will take and fight for everything they can get from us and they will still consider us as inferior infidels. They will immediately side with all the other Muslims here and live in their separate Muslim communities. And we will add a few more hundred to the potential terrorists who must be monitored by MI6.
          We only have to look around the world to see what happens next. When they have enough people, they will start demanding a seperate Muslim state of their own. I doubt it will be in our lifetimes, but it will happen eventually.
          We will get some warning as it will happen in France and Germany first – but it will be too late to stop it by then.

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          • taffman says:

            JohnC
            All at the behest of the naive, Lefty do-gooder Libtards.

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            • JohnC says:

              The ones who the only Muslim’s they ever met were at Uni or the doctor down the street.
              They would benefit a lot from taking a 6 month holiday in Afghanistan and learning what Islam really is.

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        • Sick of it all says:

          It still amazes me that more Muslims aren’t attacked and killed by the indigenous whites of this country. Perhaps we don’t breed genuine nutters any more. Well rehearsed tolerance or embarrassing weakness? You decide.

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          • JohnC says:

            It’s a police state. The suppression is so effective, the silent majority are not even aware of what really goes on. They have been conditioned by the Left to think anyone who actually talks about it is a racist.
            I have NEVER heard Nigel Farage say anything even nearly racist. He is absolutely fair-minded and just talks about things as they really are.
            But just look at the hate directed at him by the Left. They hate him purely because they don;t agree with his ideology. How they can accuse anyone else of being full of hate is beyond me. I’ve never seen anything like it.

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            • taffman says:

              JohnC
              “But just look at the hate directed at him by the Left”
              The Left are losers, re the last general election results, QED.
              Simples

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  9. Guest Who says:

    “What feels like a war zone”

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  10. StewGreen says:

    Local ITV news : “local celebrity and our long term presenter Austin Mitchell has died”
    10 minutes cos he was the king of their world

    Local BBC news : “local celebrity TV presenter and Labour Labour Labour MP Austin Mitchell has died”
    7 minutes
    #2 Labour MP Emma Harvey talking about saving Afghan immigrants.

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    • BRISSLES says:

      I liked Austin Mitchell. RIP. Brings back memories of watching him present Calender on Yorkshire TV when I visited granny back in the early 70’s.

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      • Banania says:

        Looking back, those days seem harmless and comparatively happy.

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      • Jeff says:

        Yes, me too.
        He was old school, sensible Labour.
        I rather liked him. Decent chap.

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      • JohnC says:

        I used to watch him debate with Norman Tebbit on a Sunday morning.
        Mitchell would be the emotive, shouting extremist Lefty and Tebbit would dismantle his argument cooly and calmly. A bit like JRM does.
        It was very entertaining.

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  11. Guest Who says:

    Brave, Rog… brave.

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    • BigBrotherCorporation says:

      Does that mean the Harridan will be backing the British people then? When the ‘climate war’ is declared, he’ll be there, backing us, ‘his boys’ up, rather than siding with a global agenda which will destroy the UK economy and force millions in this country in to despair and poverty?

      Does Monblot consider himself a scientist?! News to me, I assumed he was some kind of fanatical cult leader. Perhaps he’s a ‘journalist’? He does seem to be on the BBC payroll.

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    • Ian Rushlow says:

      Rather selective memory there. During the Falklands war, the BBC used phrases such as ‘The British said…’, ‘The British claimed that…’, ‘The British this, the British that’. This was pointed out to me at the time by a visiting lecturer in politics from Ceylon, who asked why they did not use words such as ‘we’, ‘us’ and ‘our’ when reporting about their own country. His subsequent area of expertise was civil war – the conflict between the Tamil Tigers and the Sri Lankan government kicking off the following year – and his observation was that the BBC consistently ‘glorified’ the IRA. Sometimes it requires an outsider to tell it the way it is…

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    • JimS says:

      I think we should introduce wolves to the offices of the Guardian and the BBC.

      Wasn’t that one of George Monbiot’s ideas?

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  12. Guest Who says:

    First the electric dodgems… now this…

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  13. StewGreen says:

    BBC local news “here we are with the artist making a photo of local mothers breastfeeding”
    It’s “empowering” apparently

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  14. Guest Who says:

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    • JohnC says:

      If you study the posts by our own troll maxi, you will become aware that he too is posting to a specific set of rules to avoid giving anyone a legitimate reason to ban him.
      The BBC and the Taliban are similar in many ways. They both play dirty in pursuit of their ideology. There is no lower limit – ask Alex Belfield.

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  15. Emmanuel Goldstein says:

    On the local (North East) news today I hear that our councils are all saying they have lots of housing ready to accommodate the Afghans which our virtue signallers in Westminster can’t get enough of to come to live in the UK.

    All the areas, Sunderland, Newcastle etc are saying there’s plenty houses ready for them.

    That must be good news for all the locals on the housing waiting lists, some waiting for more than ten years.

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    • digg says:

      Plus all the rough sleepers with no home including some ex-forces blokes who may have had there lives destroyed in that sit hole and who they couldn’t give a flying F**** about at all. You could not make this shit up! Who are these demented virtue signalling council idiots?

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  16. vlad says:

    While the BBC agonises over the humanitarian fallout from Afghanistan, and uses it to beat the Conservatives with, Farage looks at another disastrous consequence of the debacle: the Chinese wasting no time in negotiating to exploit the country’s huge mineral resources, and in particular Lithium – which will be crucial in coming years for the green revolution Biden and Boris are so keen on.

    Another own goal, Joe.

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  17. StewGreen says:

    GBNews guest : The armoured UN convoy was not allowed to pass to the airport

    I see claims a French convoy got through.

    And that an Indian convoy was escorted by Taliban who waved guns at the crowds to get them to part so the convoy got through.

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    • G.W.F. says:

      Does this mean we might see a US convoy held up by the Taliban?
      That would be more humiliating than the flight from Vietnam.

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  18. StewGreen says:

    The BBC is very diverse

    7:30pm BBC1 prog about ANTIQUE auctions
    8pm BBC1 prog about ANTIQUE repairs~
    9pm BBC1 prog about ANTIQUE painting authentication

    7pm BBC2 A Black prog about ANTIQUES being sold by celebs

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  19. StewGreen says:

    The BBC is very diverse

    8pm BBC1 A Black guy presents
    9pm BBC2 A Black guy presents

    ….. Both are Jay Blades

    …. The title is Jay Blades Yorkshire Workshop
    It’s from Bradford and about making furniture as a reward.

    That goes with BBC’s other series “Yorkshire Fire Service”

    Tonight’s episode is about honouring Jack a guy who agreed to donate half his liver.

    I don’t see why Viewer Feedback show would use its Twitter to promote the show .. https://twitter.com/bbcPoV/status/1428061690898309128

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    • BRISSLES says:

      That would be Jay Blades the ex-con who left his wife and kids and is now the darling of the BBC.

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  20. Dover Sentry says:

    A good time for our Taliban loving BBC to move to Kabul.

    Office space has become very cheap for some reason or other.

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  21. Foscari says:

    Being the mouthpiece for the BLM organization is one
    thing for the BBC. BUT we in the UK will not tolerate it being
    the media partner of the Taliban. Whatever BIG BROTHER
    says about the BBC promoting diversity in all its forms.

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  22. BRISSLES says:

    GB News appear to be the only channel tackling the “where are they going to live ?” question. A Council chief was interviewed – his region was Gloucestershire which included the Cotswolds (stifle a laugh), and the presenter said realistically, that its hardly likely that area will be affected by an influx because its made up of villages miles from the nearest town and where a car is needed to live! Also the question of already long council waiting lists, and would those at the top be now repositioned in the queue to accommodate an Afghan family ? all questions that the other channels won’t ask, but they do keep on about the little boy on the front pages !

    Cant wait for next week when all this blame game nonsense is over.

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  23. StewGreen says:

    #1 It won’t be just 20,000 allowed into the UK
    It will be 200K probably

    #2 If all the people who oppose the repressive cult leave the country
    then how can there be any chance of real reform within 40 years ?

    If the US had held on to a corner of the country, there could have been a local place for refugees to go and for reform to start and then expand out of.
    It’s a pity there is no good adjacent country to put refugee cities All are pretty wacky Islamic states.

    That David Wood video made a lot of sense
    What’s going on between libmob and the Taliban ?
    Well they have common enemies
    eg1 They don’t like critics of Islam so Twitter finds pretexts to ban them
    They both hate people who oppose open borders
    eg 2 They both don’t ant a strong US military
    etc.

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    • Eddy Booth says:

      They both like ordering normal people about with their rules

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      • JohnC says:

        The stand-out political hypocrisy event of the last 10 years MUST be the Liberal ‘Democrats’ pledging to reverse the result of a national referendum because they (and the 7.9% of people in the UK who voted for them) didn’t like it.
        Yet they are still one of the main go-to parties for the BBC when they want an ‘independent opinion’ on something to back up one of their stories.

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  24. JohnC says:

    Just reading the news about Afghanistan around the internet and at the BBC and something was just not right about the BBC coverage. I had to think a bit because there is plenty of it and none is praising the Taliban.
    Then I realised what it was. They are not reporting on the Taliban at all. They are reporting on the effects of the takeover : the flag waving, the evacuation, where the President fled to etc.
    But the one thing they not reporting is what the Taliban are actually doing. The arrests, the whipping, the brutality at women not wearing the burka, the revenge killings.
    This is 100% in line with their official policy for Islam. One mans terrorist is another mans freedom fighter. And we must not upset people in Saudi Arabia or Iran.
    This is going to get much, much worse as the the news dies down and the Taliban start meting out the punishments according to strict Islamic law.
    The new sport is going to be spotting what the BBC deliberately start missing out this time. ‘Terrorist’ and ‘Muslim’ are already banned. There will be a whole list of things they specifically don’t say about the Taliban to avoid upsetting other strict Muslims.

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  25. JohnC says:

    And now it starts from the BBC:

    Afghan interpreter who worked for UK begs PM for help
    https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-58264397
    The first in a series of many absolutely pointless human emotion stories the BBC are going to churn out in the coming weeks and months.

    What is the point of focussing an entire article on one person when there are tens of thousands in exactly the same position ?.
    The beauty of this for the agenda is that it stirs sympathy and empathy for Muslim’s instead of the revulsion at what the Taliban is showing us their religion is really like when you follow the rules.

    I wonder if the BBC will report the story from the platoon commander I saw the other day who said their interpretor for many years who they thought was like a brother to them was in fact working with the Taliban and arranged a land mine to be placed which they hit on a patrol, killing and wounding his soldiers.

    Surely they should be using their headlines to help get British people out first ?. I strongly suspect most at the the BBC actually despise the general British public now.

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    • Guest Who says:

      It is a classic MSM technique. Limitless versions.

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      • Guest Who says:

        Next bbc front… betrayal…

        BBC News

        For current and former soldiers in the British Army, the scenes unfolding in Afghanistan are bringing back a lot of traumatic memories.

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  26. JohnC says:

    I see our beloved MP’s are all blaming Trump for the disaster in Afghanistan for negotiating with the Taliban earlier.
    Two points spring immediately to mind:

    1) Biden has been in power 6 months. He was not forced to follow the policy if it was so disastrous.
    2) The problem is not the withdrawal at all, it is the manner in which it was done. It was the result of massive miscalculation and ignorance of the situation by Biden. The disaster was entirely avoidable.

    Now I’m no politician so anything I can come up with, our MP’s must be 2 steps ahead.

    So why did that bitter creature Theresa May stand up in Parliament and quite categorically blame all of it on Trump and nobody shot her down for saying it ?. Then I see Tory MP Bob Seely on GB News/Farage saying the same thing.

    What am I missing ?.

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    • JohnC says:

      I’m tempted to dismiss it as TDS but it is right in the heart of our government – not just the Left leaning MSM and their gross, hate-driven double standards.

      There must be some pertinent point nobody has bothered to tell me for this to make any sense.

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    • Yasser Dasmibehbi says:

      John C, I am agreement with you. What a bunch ninnies in the HoC.
      As I may have mentioned previously we have got the nancy-boy Tories all virtue signaling about the traitorous and lunatic proposal to bring in 20,000 Afghans.
      At least in America there are voices raised against such a thing.

      For my peace of mind can somebody point me to a British equivalent?

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    • taffman says:

      JohnC
      A. Tory MPs are closet Liberals
      Or
      B. All MPs are merely actors .

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      • Ian Rushlow says:

        To all intents and purposes, Britain is a one party state. It might have several factions – Conservative, Labour and Liberal Democrat – but these largely derive from personality clashes over who gets to wear the Big Boy Trousers. All have the same core Globalist beliefs: Monopoly capitalism economic system combined with communist-style social control; divide-and-rule policies based on race, gender, religion; contempt for ordinary people; rampant xenophilia; interventionist wars as a business activity; bogus environmentalism.

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    • Wink1 says:

      Biden had no problem reversing every other policy of Trumps- if this policy was so bad then why not cancel this one ! It was indeed sickening hearing the politicians yesterday – who on earth can we vote for to have OUR voices heard?

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    • Guest Who says:

      Seems the American media are grasping reality better than our beloved, trusted, national propaganda machine…

      The BME knows what ‘we’ need to think.

      ***

      By Nafeesa Shan

      UK and US criticised over Afghanistan crisis

      Story detail

      During a packed emergency Parliamentary debate on the crisis in Afghanistan, Prime Minister Boris Johnson faced criticism from MPs on all sides over the UK’s role. It was “incomprehensible”, said his predecessor Theresa May, that the UK did not to do more to maintain a presence in Afghanistan where the Taliban took control of the capital Kabul, and the country, when its government collapsed. Labour leader Sir Keir Starmer accused Mr Johnson – who argued Nato’s “core mission” had succeeded – of “staggering complacency”. US President Joe Biden also didn’t escape criticism during the debate, with one MP saying “he must be held to account for his actions”. Mr Biden has since appeared in a TV interview again blaming the Afghan government and its military, and when he was asked if he would acknowledge any mistakes in the chaotic withdrawal, he replied with one word. “No”.

      However, he did say US troops may stay in Afghanistan beyond the 31 August withdrawal deadline. He admits they “don’t have the capability to go out and collect large numbers of people”, which stands at between 10,000 and 15,000 Americans and 50,000 to 65,000 Afghans such as former translators for the American military. The US, the UK and other countries are evacuating nationals and eligible Afghans from Karzai International Airport, which is temporarily controlled by 4,500 US troops.
      But there are Taliban fighters and checkpoints around the perimeter. There are reports Afghans have been beaten by Taliban guards on their way to the airport. One interpreter, who worked for the British army and has permission to come to the UK, is in hiding and says he will “face death” if the Taliban find him. Meanwhile, Labour has since accused UK Foreign Secretary Dominic Raab of putting interpreters’ lives at risk. There is a report he declined to make a phone call to get help evacuating them from Afghanistan. Mr Raab was making other calls, says the government, and this one was delegated to another minister. Keep up to date with our story by following our live page.

      ***
      Leading with criticism from Treezer harks back to Laura K breathlessly reporting on Ed walking through doors seeking inquiries..

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  27. taffman says:

    It seams that face masks have now become a political flag,
    ie Mask wearer – left wing,
    No mask – right wing . See yesterday’s images from parliament .

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  28. theisland says:

    Speaking exclusively to The National Pulse, former President Donald J. Trump blasted Biden’s irresponsible move:

    “My Administration prioritized keeping Americans safe, Biden leaves them behind. Canceling this successful Trump Administration program before the withdrawal that would have helped tens of thousands Americans reach home is beyond disgraceful. Our withdrawal was conditions-based and perfect, it would have been flawlessly executed and nobody would have even known we left. The Biden execution and withdrawal is perhaps the greatest embarrassment to our Country in History, both as a military and humanitarian operation.”

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  29. Guest Who says:

    Also in the Mole…

    ***
    Teenagers become pawns in Ethiopia propaganda war

    The fog of war is a term usually used to describe confusion on the battlefield, but when it comes to Ethiopia, it could just as easily be applied to the bitterly fought information war surrounding the escalating conflict between Tigrayan rebels and government forces. When the BBC was recently offered an interview with teenagers allegedly caught fighting for the rebels, we cautiously accepted.

    “I was playing football with friends when I was forcefully recruited by Tigrayan fighters to join their ranks,” one 17-year-old told us, on the phone from Afar, a state which borders Tigray. The conflict began in Tigray in northern Ethiopia in November, but has since spread to the neighbouring regions of Afar and Amhara, where the TPLF, which denies teenagers were forced to join the group’s ranks, recently captured Lalibela, a town famous for its rock-hewn churches.

    Read full article >

    Vivienne Nunis

    ***

    Viv’s people got a call from teenage pawn people?

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  30. Fedup2 says:

    Last night the false president had an interview on ABC – so I tried to find a full version – it looks like the MSM are still protecting him . Surely can only be a matter of time …

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  31. taffman says:

    Al Beeb
    “Mr Biden wants US forces out by the end of this month, but up to 15,000 US citizens are stranded in the country.”

    Surely with thousands of US citizens still left in Afghanistan there is a potential for them to be taken as hostages?

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  32. Fedup2 says:

    Prediction –

    The bubble is desperate to ‘move on ‘ from Afgee – so there is to be a ‘distraction’- I put my money on a new variant – the most obvious solution …

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    • Guest Who says:

      Maybe the latest from Megharry, who are feeling ignored again.

      If The BBC looks back to when His Royal GPMGness was scything Sir Nick’s new mostly not enemy BFFs into chump that will be interesting.

      Maybe Marine A as Border Emperor of all the Mines?

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  33. Guest Who says:

    The Graun has its own Springster. They should team up.

    “Is the BBC deliberately sabotaging Thanet’s tourist trade? That’s what an outraged barman told me.”

    A man, in a bar….

    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/aug/17/the-latest-conspiracy-theory-about-the-bbc-its-lying-about-the-weather?

    But we are talking Zoe here. Who is next level thick.

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  34. AsISeeIt says:

    Knocking boots
    Sand in their sandles

    Who can we blame for the: ‘Afghanistan “humiliation”‘ – as the Guardian put it? Or the: ‘Hell on Earth‘ of the ‘i’ newspaper – steady on, wait until the Taliban really get going. I guess the BBC’s sister source is keeping its powder dry so to speak in not calling this one a crisis. Anyway, a crisis tends to be an ongoing thing like the climate, whilst Afghanistan appears now to be a fait accompli. I suffer from a slight confusion here – call it cognitive dissonance – since our media always tell me islam is a religion of peace and nothing to worry about. One supposes, like communism, it is just that the Taliban don’t do it properly.

    The Guardian of course blames the Tory PM: ‘MPs lambast Johnson over Afghanistan “humiliation”

    Lambast – interesting word, sounds vaguely cookery related. As though one were basting a lamb. Which diverts me to the Daily Star and an awkward juxtaposition of features on their frontpage where a story about a chain of cheap spicy chicken outlets which previously suffered their supply problems is headlined beside some bad news for that alpaca: ‘Cheeky… Nando’s’, ‘Geronimo has to go‘ – do you fancy extra hot peri-peri and a re-fillable bucket of coke with your flame-grilled llama varient?

    The Daily Star home of fun stuff‘ – how could I resist The Daily Satyr’s online presence – informs me, among other news, that Prince Harry enjoys a cheeky Nando’s.

    Although their top online picture story is headlined: ‘Three-time Olympic gold medallist swimmer says sex gives her “explosive power” and claims doctors advised it before Tokyo 2020‘ – I can’t possibly compete with that news-wise.

    Knocking boots just before a big event might be good for you, according to Russian synchronised swimmer Alla Shishkina

    Knocking boots…? Must be a Russian thing.

    Where were we? Oh yes, the Taliban marching – or traipsing – into Kabul, still with sand in their boots – or socks… with sandles. Add a fashion crime to the list of their many transgressions against modern western sensibilities.

    The Guardian blamed Boris. The BBC meanwhile performs a quick rearguard action on behalf of the incumbent US Pensioner: ‘Afghanistan crisis: Biden says no American will be left behind‘ – there’s a hostage to fortune – if you’ll excuse the pun.

    The Times blames Sleepy Joe: ‘MPs condemn Biden over “shameful” US withdrawal‘ – obviously not the same MPs who were busy lambasting Boris. Which goes to prove that whenever you read headlines saying MPs this… or, MPs that… well, there are 650 of the blighters – David Cameron promised to reduce the number to 600 as an austerity measure but of course turkeys, like alpacas, don’t elect to go to Nando’s: ‘Ministers will scrap David Cameron’s proposals to cut 50 MPs‘ – (The London Economic March 2020) – and amusingly the Boris administration blamed Brexit: ‘due to Brexit bringing a “greater workload”

    The Telegraph assumes more the tone of a Lady Bracknell yet repeats the Times headline: ‘Parliament holds the President in contempt

    Seems to me they held President Trump in contempt but now perhaps their Biden honeymoon is over.

    There’s an interesting example of a different style of language on the Telegraph frontpage – this time young American right-on woke speak: ‘Queen did not take “ownership of race allegations”, say Sussexes‘ – a couple who speak very much in the tone of the missus.

    The Daily Express provides our translation: ‘Harry and Meghan criticise the Queen

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  35. Guest Who says:

    There is seldom a BeeGees petition the BBC’s does not like.

    A bit of context.

    In other news, these are the guys China funded and arranged political decision making to score Lithium deposit deals.

    But Nut Nut’s hubby is after my wood burner next.

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    • tarien says:

      Look like something from Biblical times and that is about where their balance is-extreme they be in their beliefs for Islam. We have to understand that there is in their eyes only one God, one ideology ISALM.

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  36. Guest Who says:

    Mehdi is the BBC’s political… ok, without the pretensions of humour… version of Nish, only even more weasel-like, if that is possible.

    Failed here… off to America… failed there even more… now back.

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  37. Guest Who says:

    New Scientist (the outfit promoting tourist ‘research’ tours to Antarctica via a flight to Tasmania) is flogging a course:

    Greener Living: Your guide to climate change and leading a more sustainable life

    Run by a bunch of Uni academics.

    Likely oversubscribed by BBC attendees who will then add ‘expertise’ to their bios.

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  38. Up2snuff says:

    TOADY Watch #1 – what a giveaway, shame the BBC did not notice

    The BBC LabourToady Party have been busy spilling the Labour Party line this morning: “Get Raab out!”. What? Out of Afghanistan? What is he doing there? No. Get Raab out of office, says Labour, sack him! Funny thing, Keir Starmer loves telling the PM how to run his own Party but we know that, in truth, some in the Labour Party run Keir Starmer. ‘Unsackable Ange’, for example.

    What we know from this is that some Civil Serpents at the F&CO (sorry, Fed, you will have to look that one up) have been busy blabbing while their Boss was away on his hols. Blabbing to the Labour Party. Blabbing to the Daily Mail. Blabbing to the BBC. There’s a whole lotta blabbin’ goin’ on! Rock and roll politics.

    As Ben Wallace, SoS for Defence, said in the big interview with the Bee Lady at 8.10 a.m., there was no point in telephoning a counterpart in the Afghan Government when he would be out of power faster than ice melts. Ben didn’t get a chance to finish his analogy because the Bee Lady was busy not understanding that the Conservative Government or Ben Wallace, at least, have rumbled what the Civil Serpents are up to.

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  39. Rich says:

    I mentioned this Dick yesterday. No surprise he went to school in CUCKfield. bBbc Radio Sussex while still at school, then on to Cambridge of course. TV production, telly break with mates, on everything, show with his name on it, bachelor pad in Chiswick, knock out a few novels natch.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9906913/BBC-quiz-shows-edit-offensive-answers-Pointless-host-reveals.html#comments

    You couldn’t make this bs up. As expected, CCBGB.

    bBbc. Pointless. Countdown. Final hopefully.

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    • harry142857 says:

      Countdown.

      So MEGABITCH is fine, but POOFTER isn’t.

      It seems also that it is OK for Rachel to describe Donald as the “USA’s first orange president” during daytime TV. She ought to know better, having being on the wrong end of twitter abuse.

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  40. Emmanuel Goldstein says:

    Stew mentioned above, an idea that Afghanistan could be part Taliban and part ‘normal’ so that the refugees have somewhere to go in their own Country.

    I think this is a great idea but I can see a flaw.
    After a while when the Taliban lot are back in their Stone Age existence I can see the free lot doing very well and prospering.
    The Taliban lot will cast envious looks at their richer Countrymen and will inevitably move in to put them back on the correct path.

    Possibly the richer part could have a well equipped Army to defend itself or maybe it will just end up being Eloi and Morlocks.

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  41. Fedup2 says:

    EG
    Best news today is that the US- sorry IMF have frozen the £350 million gift it was going to give to afgee next week .

    The place runs on tribes so calling it a country doesnt work. I guess its game of thrones with AK47s .

    Just let it rot .
    Meanwhile it must be time for the iranians to test their Bomb . …

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    • Dover Sentry says:

      I fear that western hostages will be taken and the Taliban will demand the return the frozen cash. Then what?

      More dilemmas for Biden and our BBC.

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  42. taffman says:

    As all the Libtard Do-good politicians call on the UK to take in 20 thousand or more immigrants, they turn their backs on the poor working class people in the UK who will have to pay for it in a shortage of housing , education, medical aid , low wages etc, etc …….

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  43. vlad says:

    “Boris Johnson in Parliament, getting the sort of spanking you normally have to pay for in Soho.”

    I like this guy – crude, rude and opinionated. That’s how I want my alternative news channels, not all ‘polite’ and phoney ‘impartial’ à la BBC.

    He eviscerates Biden, with a sideswipe at Lineker and other libtards.
    More like that please, GB News.

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    • Doublethinker says:

      Once the US decided, apparently without consultation , to pull out so very quickly, everyone else had to follow suit. There was no prospect of forming a coalition within the few days before the Americans left.
      This is the sad end to the endless Western interventions in the MIddle East aimed at trying to foster or impose Democratic Western values and they all end the same way, Islam and western values are incompatible. Only dumb liberals haven’t got the message which is why they still are happy to let in millions of RoPers . One day when they have to face the baying Muslim mob they will realise that they have done but it will be far too late. They are handing the civilisation built by generations over to the medievalists. Rather than worry about CO2 young people should be worrying about how to live under Islam.

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      • tarien says:

        Never ever will these Islamists allow any impostion put on them to accept Western Democracy. That mob, Doublethinker is closer that is being seen by governments-55 million Muslims already in Europe all with terrorist intentions all rampaging across every country and no one is stopping them-the Police in Sweden have been told to keep a low profile on questions of Muslim attacks on women. During one Festival in Sweden large groups of young men were harrasing girls sexually-according to the Police the groups were so-called refugee youths primarily from Afgahanistan-one victim only 12 years old-and the UK intends to allow upwards of 20, 000 of them to enter. The UK will go the same way as Sweden and Germany. Afgahan men are accroding to reports the worsed offenders of sexuall assaults. Here come 20,000 more of them. That figure will soon become 40, 000.

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  44. G.W.F. says:

    Were the same intelligence sources which predicted the stability of the Afghan Government the same as those warning us that the greatest terrorist threat is coming from the far right?

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    • JohnC says:

      The government cannot do anything to stop the behaviour of the Muslim’s. They are not logic driven, they are religion driven. And no logic can counter that. Why else would someone actually want to be killed while they murder as many infidels as possible first ?.

      They keep society from fracturing in two ways : suppress what the Muslims do (like not reporting the rape gangs) and come down ruthlessly on anyone who is prepared to stand up against it (like Tommy Robinson).
      The end result is a police state which has now reached the stage of arresting people just for saying what they truly believe if it doesn’t fit the above agenda.
      It was the stuff of alarmist sci-fi 70 years ago. Now it’s coming true.

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    • Guest Who says:

      Good point.

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  45. tarien says:

    Let us get one thing straight about the Muslim-their ideology Islam is intransigently opposed to Western liberal democracy, so is Western liberal democracy intransigently opposed to Islam. Let’s get one thing perfectly clear here: Islam is a violent supremacist political ideology established by the warlord Mohammed in the seventh century, which spread across the globe via violence and terror. And millions of its fanatical followers are now in our country.
    To believe in Islam is to have faith in Allah’s Sharia that commands Muslims that they must and will conquer and subjugate the entire world to believe in Muhammad and Allah. Hence to be a true Muslim, one is called upon to assist in global conquest, whether it is by stealth jihad (providing money, intelligence, safe havens, propaganda and other resources) to the jihadists or by being an active war jihadist (slaughtering unarmed and unsuspecting civilians with bombs, guns and knives). It beggars belief therefore that this stupid and now very irresponsible government have agreed to allow 20.000 Afgahan Muslims to settle in the United Kingdom. The Afgahan immigrant throughout Europe has been prolific in commiting sexual violences and in particular against girls and young women. So the Afgahan women might now be afraid of what the Taiban could do to them, so should the British women be very afraid of what the hoardes of Afgahans could effect against them. What Frau Merkel did in accepting thousands of immigrants back in 2015 is now being done by our Prime Minister aided by ignorance of Islam and what it really means. Mayor of London Khan will be so delighted to welcome so many more of his ideological supporters. God help us Brits.

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    • vlad says:

      I second JohnC, tarien, and G.W.F.

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    • Guest Who says:

      The chatterati are in no doubt, but porting folk from a dusty hot, patriarchal hellhole to Bradford, which is not hot, looks a recipe for disaster.

      Singapore has imported its own issues with eased immigration policies, but has tried to stick to a balance of cultures and avoidance of ghetto culture.

      Mandarin, Malay or Indian you get and HDB (council house) where you are told and as a % of national balance. All come from societies used to much about Singapore that will be less of a shock. They even have storm drains that cope with unprecedented rain. Mostly.

      And all males do NS. Though a few don’t get to touch stuff that goes boom. Most imported workers on construction are not ethic Chinese and are kept in dorms, especially since C19. There have been issues in Little India with booze riots but fewer from large concentrations of horny young men bored on their day off.

      I wonder how many taxis and Nissans cruising North London soon with lads advising what they will do to the lasses in native Afghan (translations available at your local rape clinic)?

      The balance part has seen an influx of PRC citizens at the lower end of the scale, so YouTubes of folk having a dump in the bushes at an MRT station need lifting PDQ more and more.

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  46. Guest Who says:

    Posted three hours ago.

    BBC really engaging the youth of the nation.

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  47. Eighthdimension says:

    The BBC have an article today’s on the rights of 1.2 billion disabled people.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/disability-58231022

    Their headline image is of 6 BAME disabled women.

    They chose to use a stock image from an organisation called ‘Disabled and here’.

    This organisation exists only to provide BAME images of disabled people. Men and those of a white background are excluded. That is in their statement, that’s why this organisation exists.

    https://affecttheverb.com/collection/

    If you want any proof of an agenda then here it is. White people can also be disabled, but the BBC go to a company for stock images that specifically excludes all men and white people.

    “ This stock library is a disability-led effort to provide free and inclusive images from our own perspective, with photos and illustrations celebrating disabled Black, Indigenous, people of color (BIPOC).”

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    • Rich says:

      Eighth,

      This is from something called “BBC Ouch!” . They really, really try to appear edgy and relevant don’t they, while they’re actually becoming more like a parody every day. They’re like the teachers who let you call them by their first name, that everyone thought was more than just a little bit creepy.

      http://www.bbc.co.uk/ouch/about.shtml

      So very, very, bBbc.

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      • Eighthdimension says:

        Thanks. They must have pushed this onto their main front page though as it’s featured just under the Afghanistan news,

        I just find it incredible that, on a debate about disability rights, they go to an organisation that refuses to use men or whites people in its stock images! And that’s not me implying they do this, they state that’s the sole aim of their organisation.

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    • Dover Sentry says:

      Do they show any images of disabled British soldiers?

      Thought not…

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    • StewGreen says:

      screenshot of that image library page
      BBC Ouch : is the BBC disability dept

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    • Up2snuff says:

      Eighth, think the one in the wheelchair is white. She is very pale if BAME. Maybe she is self-identifying as BAME. Is that allowed? Encouraged, even?

      Dover, the standing ones could have been in the military in Afgee. They look young enough.

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    • maxincony says:

      Eighthdimension,

      The BBC have an article today’s on the rights of 1.2 billion disabled people.

      Nope. The article is about the; “WeThe15” campaign.

      The image is from the “WeThe15” campaign website:
      https://www.wethe15.org/the-campaign
      Because the article is about the; “WeThe15” campaign.

      (Would you like me to go through it one more time?)

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      • JohnC says:

        ‘The campaign has been set-up to represent the 15% of the world’s population that is disabled – about 1.2bn people, according to the World Health Organization.’

        And you say the article is not about the rights of 1.2 billion disabled people ??.

        Which bit is too difficult for you maxi ?.

        And that picture is absolutely sexist and racist. Or are there no disabled white males in the world ?.

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        • maxincony says:

          JohnC,

          And you say the article is not about the rights of 1.2 billion disabled people ??.

          The campaign is about disabled people. The article is about the campaign.

          And that picture is absolutely sexist and racist.

          Well, that’s the responsibility of the “WeThe15” campaign; so perhaps you should direct your argument towards them.

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          • taffman says:

            maxincony
            Your efforts to defend Al Beeb are futile as tv licence fees are falling . That’s the tax that robs from the poor to give to the rich.

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          • JohnC says:

            WeThe15: What is the global campaign to help disabled people?
            https://www.bbc.co.uk/newsround/58265972

            This one isn’t maxi, it’s BBC. And it’s only graphic happens to be about 4 young schoolgirls who have apparently written an app. Two white, two BAME.

            And what geniuses they are – these teenagers who can barely string a technical sentence together have actually written something which uses AI to watch you through the camera and translate your sign language. Man years of work as well as going to school. As a professional software engineer myself, I find that simple amazing.

            Funny thing is, we never see it actually working.

            Do we have a big font for me to write THE BBC ARE SHAMELESS LIARS ?.

            Oh – and Harry is on the ‘loser’ list now. Perhaps you should mention it to your colleagues living in their bubble.

            On a positive note, it seems there are no disabled white males which is good news for me.

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      • StewGreen says:

        John says the BBC chose the excluding white men image, cos it has an agenda
        Maxi says, no the BBC is simply doing PRasNews by regurgitating a campaign group’s PR material
        And that that org had chosen the excluding white men image from the image library to lead the campaign.

        There doesn’t seem much difference there.
        Rather than selecting the specific photo, the BBC chose the specific org and regurgitated their PR.

        —————–

        The opening line of the WeThe15 website is
        “We aim to transform the lives of the world’s 1.2 billion persons with disabilities who represent 15% of the global population.”

        Second sentence of that campaign page is
        “To end discrimination and transform the lives of the world’s 1.2 billion persons with disabilities
        Seems @Eighthdimension’s assertion was right

        The image is indeed on the campaign page and is marked “campaign banner”
        https://affecttheverb.com/gallery/disabledandhere/dahgroup/
        The photographer isn’t mentioned on the wethe15 website
        So it seems they took it from the image library that John mentioned.

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  48. StewGreen says:

    12pm local news ‘*Labour say* that Raab must must go, cos instead of making a phone call himself, he let a junior minister make it.’
    * that phrase is © BBC

    #2 “The vaccines work well, it’s just you can still pass Covid on ‘
    ….. FFS They are not actual vaccines then, I’d call them antibody-primers.

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    • Up2snuff says:

      Yes, quite right Stew and they don’t work, masks don’t work but another nutty Prof says … well you will just have to wait for the next TWatO Watch.

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