Parliament is recalled today to talk about ……. The failure of the US/UK in Afghanistan . An opportunity for the BBC to push its agenda of increased numbers of foreigners coming to the UK as well as spending more on overseas giveaways . It’s not bias – it is BBC social policy – paid for by legal extortion .
Midweek Thread 18 August 2021
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At last a Brit posting about the Afghan invitees.
Any MPs speaking out yet?
TWatO Watch #1 – a Prime Ministerial bashfest
The PM has his faults but he didn’t deserve what the BBC and the Labour Party have done to him yesterday and today. I love Keir Starmer. All he does is criticise but doesn’t say what he would do. No ideas, no plan, worse than the PM all the time. And he has the cheek to tell the PM how to run his Party when, it is strongly rumoured, der Starmer cannot run his own Party that he leads. Laughable.
Nowhere was it remembered that it was a Labour Party Prime Minister who got Britain involved and up to its ears and beyond in Afghanistan. Not mentioned by der Starmer. Too ashamed, perhaps? Not mentioned by the BBC wing of the Labour Party? BBC early onset dementia? And where were the Conservative back-benchers? Like Caroline Nokes MP yesterday they all seemed to be cowering behind the bulk of der Starmer in the Labour trenches.
Warfare.
Cowardice aplenty.
To me , Starmer is the UK’s Biden. The only difference is Biden’s policies have been to reverse whatever Trump put in place, regardless of whether it was good bad or indifferent. Starmer would put Boris’s policies in place but make them worse or harder on the population.
gb123, I think Starmer as PM would be in a terrible dither and would be worried that if he offended Ange or Di or Lisa or Jess, the knives would be out in an instant and stuck in his back and that would be the end.
Pesto. Ex bbc.
As a rule of thumb, whatever Pesto Sauce says, the opposite will be true.
The autocuties at the increasingly feminised BBC are wringing their delicate little hands in anguish at the prospect that girls in Afghanistan might not get an education under the Taliban.
(Boo-hoo, who cares? They want primitive Islam, they can live with the consequences.)
Meanwhile here’s a proper grown-up discussion on the tactical and geo-strategic implications.
Some main points:
– Biden lied about the cost, in blood and treasure, of Afghanistan. The heavy lifting had already been done in the early years; now the small residual force could have continued to do the job of denying terrorists like Al-Qaeda a safe haven at minimal cost in dollars and lives to America. (There have been few US casualties since 2014 and none since February 2020.)
– That small force served to prop up the Afghan Army, and also gave the Americans a crucial military presence near Iran and China.
– The immense loss of prestige to the US is not just a matter of pride, but has real-world implications: it emboldens terrorist groups and hostile regimes like China and Iran.
Truth you will never see or hear on al beeb
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-9903067/The-speech-shamed-America-ANDREW-NEIL-asks-Joe-Biden-recover.html?adobe_mc=TS%3D1629304169%7CMCAID%3D3056891423F9561E-4000138DE933BD3F
al beeb would never …
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-9903067/The-speech-shamed-America-ANDREW-NEIL-asks-Joe-Biden-recover.html?adobe_mc=TS%3D1629304169%7CMCAID%3D3056891423F9561E-4000138DE933BD3F
It seems to be the case that places like France, Germany, Poland, Czech, Netherlands, to name but five, are all hastily arranging flights for their people and a few tens of Afghans out of Kabul.
Which begs the questions the BBC are not asking.
1. Why are we under any kind of moral obligation to allow tens of thousands of Afghans into our country, especially as we out in more of our own troops to keep those same Afghans relatively safe for twenty years?
2. It appears that the UK is not unique in having an ‘intelligence failure’ so why is the UK uniquely to blame for anything?’
I was wondering how long it would take for some useful idiot to trot out the ‘Religion of Peace’ lie.
MP Stella Creasy (Labour, of course) just couldn’t make her little speech-ette on Afghanistan without throwing in the inevitable: ‘This is not Islam…it’s brutalism and terrorism’.
She clearly hasn’t read the quran, the hadith and the sunnah, or she’d know it is most definitely islam – in its purest form, red in tooth and claw.
She’s either cynically pandering to the muslim vote, or crassly ignorant. I don’t know which is worse.
More on the wonders of islam here: https://www.thereligionofpeace.com/
ISLAM.
Freedom of conscience: https://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/quran/apostasy.aspx
Slavery: https://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/quran/slavery.aspx
Forced Conversion: https://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/quran/forced-conversion.aspx
Religious freedom: https://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/quran/forced-conversion.aspx
Democracy: https://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/quran/democracy.aspx
Homosexuality: https://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/quran/homosexuality.aspx
Torture: https://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/quran/torture.aspx
Stoning and Adultery: https://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/quran/adultery-stoning.aspx
Women Worth Less: https://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/quran/women-worth-less.aspx
Wife beating: https://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/quran/wife-beating.aspx
A woman’s place: https://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/quran/men-in-charge-of-women.aspx
Polygamy: https://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/quran/polygamy.aspx
Etc, etc, etc.
Finally, here’s an amusing definition of Islamophobe:
Islamophobe (is-slahm-o-fohb) – A non-Muslim who knows more about Islam than they are supposed to know.
NOTE
The above content is from https://www.thereligionofpeace.com/
There was a time when you could Google ‘the religion of peace’ with any combination of capitals and spaces, and that website would show up high on Google rankings.
Clearly Google has fiddled its algorithms, as now you need the exact URL to find the site.
No doubt it will eventually be banned altogether.
Yet another example of creepy Big Tech shielding its favourite religion from criticism – or Truth, as it’s sometimes called.
Poor honoursble stella ( family of aristocrats ) is up against it with her E17 constituency- majority islam – but still a boro where a paedo wearing a labour badge would be elected .
Im not sure if she has any idea about the subject but will be closer to a ministerial job by reading her party script so well .
I reckon the muj will shut the airport soon and can happily round up the traitors trying to get out …
The QT impartial panel tonight.
James Cleverley, government minister
Lisa Nandy.
Rory Stewart, ex Tory remoaner and ex soldier
Medhi Hasan, who is laughingly classed as ‘journalist’.
Yeah right, check out his biog.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mehdi_Hasan
If I was Cleverly I would either run a mile, or grow a pair. But he will no doubt do neither and be meek, contrite, apologetic, and pathetic.
Guess he’s on online from America
as he’s still presenting his US TV shows
Sluff did you bother ?
Will Priti send back all the illegals that that she threatened to ? We will need all the room for the twenty thousand on the way.
More houses, hospitals, schools, food imports, water etc needed now. Great Britain is a small overpopulated country. Goodbye England’s green and pleasant land.
Have Tory voters been betrayed by their MPs?
“Will Priti send back all the illegals that she threatened to?” Oh, come off it…
Priti talks a good game, a bit like Boris Bunter, but she’s been an absolutely appalling flop.
The number of illegals is actually increasing. There’s just no need for it. FFS, they can defend Hungary from Islamic invasion and they’re land locked! All it takes is the genuine desire to do it.
We’re surrounded by sea and despite all Patel’s tough talk, we send out a bloody taxi service and escort the blighters in, putting them up in 4 star hotels. Is it any wonder they’re coming?
Give me strength…
Patel reminds me of Petain. Somebody whose slogan was “They shall not pass” but later when it came to it crumpled and collaborated with the enemy who surged across the border.
Her welcome of 20,000 Afghans is shocking. An it seems to be the attitude of the entire Tory Party. I did see a clip of a Sir Patrick Swayne or some such name. He was a bit concerned in a polite milksop sort of way but then he was only concerned about the possibility of open borders and was quite comfortable with the 20,000.
Is nobody going to oppose this with the force it deserves? I would hope to see fire and brimstone speeches from somebody over this.
The Tory party really is behind Priti Petain.
Where are the old Ukippers who fled to the tories?
So thousands of Afghans want to get away from the horror and unpleasantness of Islam.
And so they come to the UK…………
They haven’t really thought this through, have they.
Where are all the other oil rich Middle Eastern States in all this –
Shouldn’t they be taking their brothers ?
If they are coming here to escape Islam, will they work against it when they are here? If so, they would be useful.
If you don’t mind me saying so Banania, that’s a very naive attitude to take.
We just don’t know who might be coming along with the genuine escapees.
Taking in refugees at such a time, particularly as we are undoubtedly culpable, is the right thing to do.
However, it only takes a tiny percentage of those that make their homes here to cause absolute carnage.
And it’s unlikely to be the children of the good and the great that are going to be blown to smithereens.
It’s a heck of a risk…
I think he is being ironic.
These people don’t reject Islam. They reject being killed by the Taliban and they willingly accept money from anybody.
After all my travels around the world, I am 100% certain they will remain devout Muslim’s, they will take and fight for everything they can get from us and they will still consider us as inferior infidels. They will immediately side with all the other Muslims here and live in their separate Muslim communities. And we will add a few more hundred to the potential terrorists who must be monitored by MI6.
We only have to look around the world to see what happens next. When they have enough people, they will start demanding a seperate Muslim state of their own. I doubt it will be in our lifetimes, but it will happen eventually.
We will get some warning as it will happen in France and Germany first – but it will be too late to stop it by then.
JohnC
All at the behest of the naive, Lefty do-gooder Libtards.
The ones who the only Muslim’s they ever met were at Uni or the doctor down the street.
They would benefit a lot from taking a 6 month holiday in Afghanistan and learning what Islam really is.
It still amazes me that more Muslims aren’t attacked and killed by the indigenous whites of this country. Perhaps we don’t breed genuine nutters any more. Well rehearsed tolerance or embarrassing weakness? You decide.
It’s a police state. The suppression is so effective, the silent majority are not even aware of what really goes on. They have been conditioned by the Left to think anyone who actually talks about it is a racist.
I have NEVER heard Nigel Farage say anything even nearly racist. He is absolutely fair-minded and just talks about things as they really are.
But just look at the hate directed at him by the Left. They hate him purely because they don;t agree with his ideology. How they can accuse anyone else of being full of hate is beyond me. I’ve never seen anything like it.
JohnC
“But just look at the hate directed at him by the Left”
The Left are losers, re the last general election results, QED.
Simples
“What feels like a war zone”
Local ITV news : “local celebrity and our long term presenter Austin Mitchell has died”
10 minutes cos he was the king of their world
Local BBC news : “local celebrity TV presenter and Labour Labour Labour MP Austin Mitchell has died”
7 minutes
#2 Labour MP Emma Harvey talking about saving Afghan immigrants.
I liked Austin Mitchell. RIP. Brings back memories of watching him present Calender on Yorkshire TV when I visited granny back in the early 70’s.
Looking back, those days seem harmless and comparatively happy.
Yes, me too.
He was old school, sensible Labour.
I rather liked him. Decent chap.
I used to watch him debate with Norman Tebbit on a Sunday morning.
Mitchell would be the emotive, shouting extremist Lefty and Tebbit would dismantle his argument cooly and calmly. A bit like JRM does.
It was very entertaining.
Brave, Rog… brave.
Does that mean the Harridan will be backing the British people then? When the ‘climate war’ is declared, he’ll be there, backing us, ‘his boys’ up, rather than siding with a global agenda which will destroy the UK economy and force millions in this country in to despair and poverty?
Does Monblot consider himself a scientist?! News to me, I assumed he was some kind of fanatical cult leader. Perhaps he’s a ‘journalist’? He does seem to be on the BBC payroll.
Rather selective memory there. During the Falklands war, the BBC used phrases such as ‘The British said…’, ‘The British claimed that…’, ‘The British this, the British that’. This was pointed out to me at the time by a visiting lecturer in politics from Ceylon, who asked why they did not use words such as ‘we’, ‘us’ and ‘our’ when reporting about their own country. His subsequent area of expertise was civil war – the conflict between the Tamil Tigers and the Sri Lankan government kicking off the following year – and his observation was that the BBC consistently ‘glorified’ the IRA. Sometimes it requires an outsider to tell it the way it is…
I think we should introduce wolves to the offices of the Guardian and the BBC.
Wasn’t that one of George Monbiot’s ideas?
First the electric dodgems… now this…
BBC local news “here we are with the artist making a photo of local mothers breastfeeding”
It’s “empowering” apparently
If you study the posts by our own troll maxi, you will become aware that he too is posting to a specific set of rules to avoid giving anyone a legitimate reason to ban him.
The BBC and the Taliban are similar in many ways. They both play dirty in pursuit of their ideology. There is no lower limit – ask Alex Belfield.
maxincony, where he ?
You can be sure he is watching carefully and filling in the reports of what each of us say for ‘the list’.
He ?
Surely, You mean they .
On the local (North East) news today I hear that our councils are all saying they have lots of housing ready to accommodate the Afghans which our virtue signallers in Westminster can’t get enough of to come to live in the UK.
All the areas, Sunderland, Newcastle etc are saying there’s plenty houses ready for them.
That must be good news for all the locals on the housing waiting lists, some waiting for more than ten years.
Plus all the rough sleepers with no home including some ex-forces blokes who may have had there lives destroyed in that sit hole and who they couldn’t give a flying F**** about at all. You could not make this shit up! Who are these demented virtue signalling council idiots?
While the BBC agonises over the humanitarian fallout from Afghanistan, and uses it to beat the Conservatives with, Farage looks at another disastrous consequence of the debacle: the Chinese wasting no time in negotiating to exploit the country’s huge mineral resources, and in particular Lithium – which will be crucial in coming years for the green revolution Biden and Boris are so keen on.
Another own goal, Joe.
GBNews guest : The armoured UN convoy was not allowed to pass to the airport
I see claims a French convoy got through.
And that an Indian convoy was escorted by Taliban who waved guns at the crowds to get them to part so the convoy got through.
Does this mean we might see a US convoy held up by the Taliban?
That would be more humiliating than the flight from Vietnam.
The BBC is very diverse
7:30pm BBC1 prog about ANTIQUE auctions
8pm BBC1 prog about ANTIQUE repairs~
9pm BBC1 prog about ANTIQUE painting authentication
7pm BBC2 A Black prog about ANTIQUES being sold by celebs
The BBC is very diverse
8pm BBC1 A Black guy presents
9pm BBC2 A Black guy presents
….. Both are Jay Blades
…. The title is Jay Blades Yorkshire Workshop
It’s from Bradford and about making furniture as a reward.
That goes with BBC’s other series “Yorkshire Fire Service”
Tonight’s episode is about honouring Jack a guy who agreed to donate half his liver.
I don’t see why Viewer Feedback show would use its Twitter to promote the show .. https://twitter.com/bbcPoV/status/1428061690898309128
That would be Jay Blades the ex-con who left his wife and kids and is now the darling of the BBC.
A good time for our Taliban loving BBC to move to Kabul.
Office space has become very cheap for some reason or other.
‘ President Joe Biden said on Wednesday [April 2021] U.S. troops will be withdrawn from Afghanistan starting May 1 to end America’s longest war, rejecting calls for them to stay to ensure a peaceful resolution to that nation’s grinding internal conflict.
Biden acknowledged that U.S. objectives in Afghanistan had become “increasingly unclear” over the past decade and set a deadline for withdrawing all U.S. troops remaining in Afghanistan by Sept. 11, exactly 20 years after al Qaeda’s attacks on the United States that triggered the war.
“It was never meant to be a multi-generational undertaking. We were attacked. We went to war with clear goals. We achieved those objectives,” Biden said, noting that al Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden was killed by American forces in 2011 and saying that organization has been “degraded” in Afghanistan.
“And it’s time to end the forever war,” Biden added.
“I am now the fourth American president to preside over an American troop presence in Afghanistan. Two Republicans. Two Democrats,” Biden said. “I will not pass this responsibility on to a fifth.”
Biden rejected the idea that U.S. troops could provide the leverage needed for peace, saying: “We gave that argument a decade. It has never proven effective.”
“American troops shouldn’t be used as a bargaining chip between warring parties in other countries,” Biden said.
Biden later said the decision to withdraw was not difficult.
“To me, it was absolutely clear,” Biden said.
Biden criticized past U.S. aspirations to somehow unify Afghans, a goal that defied the lessons of history over centuries.
“It’s never been done,” Biden said.’ [and the BBC always revels in telling us how Afghanistan has never been conquered]
Biden April 2021….plenty of notice…no surprise…and yet no comment from Starmer et al who claim the government was complacent…..so why not say so long ago?
Really? Is the BBC really cheerleading imperialist, colonist occupiers of a Muslim country, imposing western ideas of democracy and human rights using liberal interventionism at the point of a bayonet?
Seems so….going so far as to strongly criticise the sainted Biden and even fact-checking his speech on the Afghan home-run.
The BBC that loves Biden and hates Western military ‘adventures’ as it calls them? What’s going on? Can only think the BBC is merely going with the zeitgeist as the whole world turns against the withdrawal…not daring to contradict the massed ranks of highly emotional posturers…..but no doubt as time moves on the BBC will try to swing us around to accepting the move as sensible, pragmatic and a moral victory as Biden puts a stop to imperialist warmongering [and Trump gets the blame for anything bad that happens as a result…though Biden had every opportunity to stop the withdrawal but was fully accepting of it….]…though in the meantime why waste the golden opportunity that the crisis brings and use it to lay into old Boris?
Mishal Husain was laying out the terms of how many Afghans we must accept…she demanded the government accept the demands of the usual suspects who want everyone in the world to be allowed in here.
Today we had the recall of Parliament to debate the issue of Afghanistan….the BBC has suddenly noticed that parliament, for over a year, had supinely surrendered its powers and scrutiny of government…this was not a concern of the BBC before as it approved of the despotic imposition of lockdown measures…but now? It seems to enjoy the spectacle of Parliament waking up and using its powers of scrutiny to skewer Boris….
‘For more than a year, ministers in trouble faced a mostly empty chamber, and fielded the attacks of MPs who were called in a pre-determined order, heading off unexpected attacks.
It has been a damaging day for ministers who have perhaps become too used to the protection the pandemic restrictions gave them. ‘
The protection also given by a corrupt media that collaborated with government in pushing a message and failed entirely to question that message, the reasons and motivations behind it….just look at the SNP now…and don’t think Boris doesn’t intend to do this…
‘Sturgeon’s Covid ‘power grab’: SNP ministers want to make emergency pandemic laws PERMANENT so they can impose lockdowns, shut schools and release prisoners in event of new ‘health crisis”
The BBC’s take on the debate has been, of course, interesting…in what it chose to highlight and what it ignored.
Naturally it made much of Starmer saying the government had been complacent and of Starmer’s pious preaching about leaving Afghans in the lurch. Hmmm…so Trump made the agreement with the Taliban way back in February 2020….what has Starmer said about this…surely he has made repeated and strong statements on the sbject demanding to know what the government will do in the eventuality? No? No. Stamer has not mentioned Afghanistan since 2015…other than twice to briefly talk about aid Boris’ trip to Afghanistan…and then it’s only today that we get the strong interventions from him…
https://hansard.parliament.uk/search/MemberContributions?endDate=2021-08-18&memberId=4514&outputType=List&partial=False&searchTerm=afghanistan&startDate=2015-05-07&type=Spoken
Oh…curious…in February 2020 he was demanding no more military interventions…so surely he’s happy that we’re out of Afghan or is he more happy that he can twist and turn and use Afghanistan as a political opportunity?
Naturally the BBC isn’t looking back to see Starmer’s previous views…coz then he’d look like a hypocritical chancer wouldn’t he.
And then there’s Theresa May…making a ridiculous claim that Boris should have rounded up all the Nato members, US aside, and keep on in Afghan….oddly the BBC keeps avoiding telling us what she actually said…presumably because it’s so patently stupid and unworkable that it would discredit their use of her, cleverly edited and selected, comments to attack Boris. They tell us she said ‘His predecessor as PM Theresa May said it was “incomprehensible” the UK was not doing more to maintain a presence’…but that’s a disengenuous interpretation that avoids what she really said and instead gives the impression that she was demanding Boris pressure the US to stay….a completely false interpretation.
And then there’s Tom Tugendhat’s emotional speech…if he’d spent as much time thinking about the issue as he did shaping his emotive speech then maybe we’d have had a more honest and realistic view of the issues.
Every soldier signed up for service…wanting adventure, the lifestyle and the war experience…they knew the risks. Also not one soldier would have said Afghan was worthwhile…they would have said, and did, that the war was a total waste of time, money and lives….and unwinnable….however, despite that, they enjoy the war, they signed up to do just that….any good things, such as education and human rights that might come out of it, were happy side-issues.
Everyone knew the war was unwinnable…it was a holding action…keeping the Taliban at bay….knowing that as soon as we left the Taliban would be back…..just how long do all these people who say we should still be there suggest we stay? We were there twenty years and the Taliban grew stronger with more resources, more training, more arms, more money, a never ending supply of recruits and the backing of powerful enemies of The West…Pakistan, Iran, China and Russia. Just how much stronger would the Taliban be in 5, 10, 20 more years? And as all these posturing ex-officers wail about the dead being betrayed how many soldiers are they willing to sacrifice and send to their deaths in future in a continuation of this hopeless war?
To say we owe the Afghans something is a twisting of reality…The Americans spent over a trillion dollars on Afghanistan and billions were spent by other nations….thousands of our troops were killed and untold numbers maimed physically and mentally to help Afghanistan…to say we somehow ‘owe’ Afghanistan something is bizarre….and odd to say, as the BBC did, that the Afghans were working ‘for us’ thus we owe them a debt…actually we were working for them and the Afghans working with us were fighting for their own country and freedoms…not fighting for the US or Britain….it’s like saying we should be really grateful to the Poles who joined our forces to continue the fight against Hitler…they helped save us…er…no…we went to war to try and save them.
You may also get the impression from the coverage that this all happened overnight and that Biden just suddenly snapped his fingers and said i>’Get ’em out!’…but no…as said this has long been in the pipeline and the troops numbers have gradually been whittle down…and the Taliban had been gradually taking more and more territory….and of course it was Obama and Cameron who actually stopped offensive combat operations….Bastion didn’t close of its own accord.
This is Labour’s Angela Rayner on July 8th…
‘The Taliban are making gains on the ground.
Serious questions remain about the future stability of Afghanistan.
A security threat remains to the wider world including the UK.
Nobody wants to see British troops permanently stationed in Afghanistan.
But if we simply wash our hands and walk away, it is hard to see a future without bloodier conflict and wider Taliban control.
Already, they are on the brink of gaining control of provincial capitals. Afghan security forces risk being overwhelmed.
This spells jeopardy for the Afghan people, particularly for Afghan women and girls, who in a just world would have the same rights as women everywhere deserve.
In the words of the Prime Minister himself, this is a situation “fraught with risk”.
Can he tell us if he argued for or against the withdrawal with the US Government and in NATO, and what other steps he proposed?’
Some are claiming that if only we’d given more notice and had a longer draw-down period things would have gone more smoothly…really? Firstly as mentioned there had been a long notice period…and then if we’d kept a heavy troop presence in country the Taliban woud have resumed attacks against them and no doubt even as we tried to withdraw….sure the BBC would have loved images of planes being shelled and blown up on the runways along with all the screaming people trying to scramble aboard.
As it was the rapid Taliban takeover was actually a good [and inevitable] thing….little death and barely any destruction….would the BBC et al prefer towns and cities being destroyed and civilians massacred in intense streetfighting?
Afghanistan was ‘simply shipping’….the Taliban had all the time in the world and could wait us out. We could hold them at bay but we could never beat them…so do we do that for how long? and then what….the same situation only people decrying us leaving and saying we’ve betrayed all those men and women who died over the 50 years we’ve been there….all that blood and money wasted!
Trump/Biden are right…get out….the only other solution is a North/South Korea type division with a massively controlled border splitting Afghanistan down the middle and ceding half to the Taliban….and endless troop deployments there.
So far the BBC’s reporting has been very one-sided and against the withdrawal….few to no voices supporting it…and definitely none daring to counter the mawkish posturing and moralising of the likes of Tom Tugendhat.
In a few weeks time I imagine the line will be that this was the right thing to do but maybe a bit rushed and disorganised….there will be lots of Taliban atrocity stories but in the end…Biden was right.
Odd though that the Taliban get so much grief for their beliefs….not as if different to so many in the UK…and definitely the same as so many other Islamic countries….not to mention Pakistan……
‘Violence against women and girls—including rape, so-called honor killings, acid attacks, domestic violence, and forced marriage—remains a serious problem. Pakistani activists estimate that there are about 1,000 “honor” killings every year.
The crackdown on the media, civil society and the political opposition intensified. Frequent enforced disappearances continued; nobody was held accountable. COVID-19 created new challenges for economic, social and cultural rights. Health workers were detained for peacefully exercising their right to freedom of expression, and also came under attack at their place of work. The Supreme Court blocked efforts to relieve prison overcrowding, despite the spread of COVID-19 in prisons. Religious minorities continued to be prosecuted under blasphemy laws and attacked by non-state actors. Violence against women remained prevalent. Prime Minister Khan made encouraging announcements to release women prisoners and criminalize torture but there was little progress in implementing these measures. The Ministry of Human Rights presided over critical reforms around the death penalty and child abuse. The National Commission on Human Rights remained defunct.’
Maybe we need to ‘go into’ Pakistan to rescue the women and persecuted minorities there?
The BBC is of course more interested in telling us how appalling Israel is than in what goes on in Pakistan…..a country created at the same time and along the same lines as Israel….ony with a far, far worse record of human rights abuses, state terrorism and illegal occupation and annexation…it, of course, created and funded the Taliban.
Being the mouthpiece for the BLM organization is one
thing for the BBC. BUT we in the UK will not tolerate it being
the media partner of the Taliban. Whatever BIG BROTHER
says about the BBC promoting diversity in all its forms.
Interesting to listen to Labour’s Andy Burnham telling the BBC that Manchester only had so many houses and resources and so couldn’t be expected to take too many asylum seekers. The presenter didn’t murmur a word of objection, it was all very agreeable…no demands that Manchester take all and sundry never mind the consequences or practicalities.
Imagine a Tory minister saying the country was full and couldn’t take any more asylum seekers…no need to imagine of course as we’ve heard the shocked and outraged BBC reaction to that so many times…of course we must take in every asylum seeker…it’s the only humane and moral thing to do…you fascist Nazi Tory scum!
GB News appear to be the only channel tackling the “where are they going to live ?” question. A Council chief was interviewed – his region was Gloucestershire which included the Cotswolds (stifle a laugh), and the presenter said realistically, that its hardly likely that area will be affected by an influx because its made up of villages miles from the nearest town and where a car is needed to live! Also the question of already long council waiting lists, and would those at the top be now repositioned in the queue to accommodate an Afghan family ? all questions that the other channels won’t ask, but they do keep on about the little boy on the front pages !
Cant wait for next week when all this blame game nonsense is over.
Ah yes but….the councils don’t use council houses because that would be so unfair on those on the waiting list…..instead they went out and spent millions buying other houses to home asylum seekers….they had separate lists…houses for natives and houses for migrants…so no-one could say the migrants were jumping the queue…lol. They must think we are stupid.
Heard a new one today on the BBC…we’ve had ‘undocumented migrants’ and now they’ve coined the term ‘unauthorised migrants’…anything but ‘illegal migrants’.
What’s worse than the Taliban returning? Mehdi Hasan resurfacing on Question Time…the scumbag little islamist liar and opportunist charlattan.
Oh…and there’s Florence of Arabia…Rory Stewart….telling us we must stay in Afghan….hmmm…seem to remember him telling us back in 2012 that there was no military or political solution, we must leave Afghanistan and let the Afghans sort it out for themselves.
Mehdi is the BBC’s political… ok, without the pretensions of humour… version of Nish, only even more weasel-like, if that is possible.
Failed here… off to America… failed there even more… now back.
#1 It won’t be just 20,000 allowed into the UK
It will be 200K probably
#2 If all the people who oppose the repressive cult leave the country
then how can there be any chance of real reform within 40 years ?
If the US had held on to a corner of the country, there could have been a local place for refugees to go and for reform to start and then expand out of.
It’s a pity there is no good adjacent country to put refugee cities All are pretty wacky Islamic states.
That David Wood video made a lot of sense
What’s going on between libmob and the Taliban ?
Well they have common enemies
eg1 They don’t like critics of Islam so Twitter finds pretexts to ban them
They both hate people who oppose open borders
eg 2 They both don’t ant a strong US military
etc.
They both like ordering normal people about with their rules
The stand-out political hypocrisy event of the last 10 years MUST be the Liberal ‘Democrats’ pledging to reverse the result of a national referendum because they (and the 7.9% of people in the UK who voted for them) didn’t like it.
Yet they are still one of the main go-to parties for the BBC when they want an ‘independent opinion’ on something to back up one of their stories.
Just reading the news about Afghanistan around the internet and at the BBC and something was just not right about the BBC coverage. I had to think a bit because there is plenty of it and none is praising the Taliban.
Then I realised what it was. They are not reporting on the Taliban at all. They are reporting on the effects of the takeover : the flag waving, the evacuation, where the President fled to etc.
But the one thing they not reporting is what the Taliban are actually doing. The arrests, the whipping, the brutality at women not wearing the burka, the revenge killings.
This is 100% in line with their official policy for Islam. One mans terrorist is another mans freedom fighter. And we must not upset people in Saudi Arabia or Iran.
This is going to get much, much worse as the the news dies down and the Taliban start meting out the punishments according to strict Islamic law.
The new sport is going to be spotting what the BBC deliberately start missing out this time. ‘Terrorist’ and ‘Muslim’ are already banned. There will be a whole list of things they specifically don’t say about the Taliban to avoid upsetting other strict Muslims.
And now it starts from the BBC:
Afghan interpreter who worked for UK begs PM for help
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-58264397
The first in a series of many absolutely pointless human emotion stories the BBC are going to churn out in the coming weeks and months.
What is the point of focussing an entire article on one person when there are tens of thousands in exactly the same position ?.
The beauty of this for the agenda is that it stirs sympathy and empathy for Muslim’s instead of the revulsion at what the Taliban is showing us their religion is really like when you follow the rules.
I wonder if the BBC will report the story from the platoon commander I saw the other day who said their interpretor for many years who they thought was like a brother to them was in fact working with the Taliban and arranged a land mine to be placed which they hit on a patrol, killing and wounding his soldiers.
Surely they should be using their headlines to help get British people out first ?. I strongly suspect most at the the BBC actually despise the general British public now.
It is a classic MSM technique. Limitless versions.
Next bbc front… betrayal…
BBC News
For current and former soldiers in the British Army, the scenes unfolding in Afghanistan are bringing back a lot of traumatic memories.
I see our beloved MP’s are all blaming Trump for the disaster in Afghanistan for negotiating with the Taliban earlier.
Two points spring immediately to mind:
1) Biden has been in power 6 months. He was not forced to follow the policy if it was so disastrous.
2) The problem is not the withdrawal at all, it is the manner in which it was done. It was the result of massive miscalculation and ignorance of the situation by Biden. The disaster was entirely avoidable.
Now I’m no politician so anything I can come up with, our MP’s must be 2 steps ahead.
So why did that bitter creature Theresa May stand up in Parliament and quite categorically blame all of it on Trump and nobody shot her down for saying it ?. Then I see Tory MP Bob Seely on GB News/Farage saying the same thing.
What am I missing ?.
I’m tempted to dismiss it as TDS but it is right in the heart of our government – not just the Left leaning MSM and their gross, hate-driven double standards.
There must be some pertinent point nobody has bothered to tell me for this to make any sense.
A. Tory MPs are closet Liberals
Or
B. All MPs are merely actors .
John C, I am agreement with you. What a bunch ninnies in the HoC.
As I may have mentioned previously we have got the nancy-boy Tories all virtue signaling about the traitorous and lunatic proposal to bring in 20,000 Afghans.
At least in America there are voices raised against such a thing.
For my peace of mind can somebody point me to a British equivalent?
JohnC
A. Tory MPs are closet Liberals
Or
B. All MPs are merely actors .
To all intents and purposes, Britain is a one party state. It might have several factions – Conservative, Labour and Liberal Democrat – but these largely derive from personality clashes over who gets to wear the Big Boy Trousers. All have the same core Globalist beliefs: Monopoly capitalism economic system combined with communist-style social control; divide-and-rule policies based on race, gender, religion; contempt for ordinary people; rampant xenophilia; interventionist wars as a business activity; bogus environmentalism.
Biden had no problem reversing every other policy of Trumps- if this policy was so bad then why not cancel this one ! It was indeed sickening hearing the politicians yesterday – who on earth can we vote for to have OUR voices heard?
Seems the American media are grasping reality better than our beloved, trusted, national propaganda machine…
The BME knows what ‘we’ need to think.
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By Nafeesa Shan
UK and US criticised over Afghanistan crisis
Story detail
During a packed emergency Parliamentary debate on the crisis in Afghanistan, Prime Minister Boris Johnson faced criticism from MPs on all sides over the UK’s role. It was “incomprehensible”, said his predecessor Theresa May, that the UK did not to do more to maintain a presence in Afghanistan where the Taliban took control of the capital Kabul, and the country, when its government collapsed. Labour leader Sir Keir Starmer accused Mr Johnson – who argued Nato’s “core mission” had succeeded – of “staggering complacency”. US President Joe Biden also didn’t escape criticism during the debate, with one MP saying “he must be held to account for his actions”. Mr Biden has since appeared in a TV interview again blaming the Afghan government and its military, and when he was asked if he would acknowledge any mistakes in the chaotic withdrawal, he replied with one word. “No”.
However, he did say US troops may stay in Afghanistan beyond the 31 August withdrawal deadline. He admits they “don’t have the capability to go out and collect large numbers of people”, which stands at between 10,000 and 15,000 Americans and 50,000 to 65,000 Afghans such as former translators for the American military. The US, the UK and other countries are evacuating nationals and eligible Afghans from Karzai International Airport, which is temporarily controlled by 4,500 US troops.
But there are Taliban fighters and checkpoints around the perimeter. There are reports Afghans have been beaten by Taliban guards on their way to the airport. One interpreter, who worked for the British army and has permission to come to the UK, is in hiding and says he will “face death” if the Taliban find him. Meanwhile, Labour has since accused UK Foreign Secretary Dominic Raab of putting interpreters’ lives at risk. There is a report he declined to make a phone call to get help evacuating them from Afghanistan. Mr Raab was making other calls, says the government, and this one was delegated to another minister. Keep up to date with our story by following our live page.
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Leading with criticism from Treezer harks back to Laura K breathlessly reporting on Ed walking through doors seeking inquiries..
It seams that face masks have now become a political flag,
ie Mask wearer – left wing,
No mask – right wing . See yesterday’s images from parliament .
PS……………
“Covid: Most Conservative MPs ditch masks as Commons returns”
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-58259604
Speaking exclusively to The National Pulse, former President Donald J. Trump blasted Biden’s irresponsible move:
“My Administration prioritized keeping Americans safe, Biden leaves them behind. Canceling this successful Trump Administration program before the withdrawal that would have helped tens of thousands Americans reach home is beyond disgraceful. Our withdrawal was conditions-based and perfect, it would have been flawlessly executed and nobody would have even known we left. The Biden execution and withdrawal is perhaps the greatest embarrassment to our Country in History, both as a military and humanitarian operation.”
Also in the Mole…
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Teenagers become pawns in Ethiopia propaganda war
The fog of war is a term usually used to describe confusion on the battlefield, but when it comes to Ethiopia, it could just as easily be applied to the bitterly fought information war surrounding the escalating conflict between Tigrayan rebels and government forces. When the BBC was recently offered an interview with teenagers allegedly caught fighting for the rebels, we cautiously accepted.
“I was playing football with friends when I was forcefully recruited by Tigrayan fighters to join their ranks,” one 17-year-old told us, on the phone from Afar, a state which borders Tigray. The conflict began in Tigray in northern Ethiopia in November, but has since spread to the neighbouring regions of Afar and Amhara, where the TPLF, which denies teenagers were forced to join the group’s ranks, recently captured Lalibela, a town famous for its rock-hewn churches.
Read full article >
Vivienne Nunis
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Viv’s people got a call from teenage pawn people?
Last night the false president had an interview on ABC – so I tried to find a full version – it looks like the MSM are still protecting him . Surely can only be a matter of time …
Al Beeb
“Mr Biden wants US forces out by the end of this month, but up to 15,000 US citizens are stranded in the country.”
Surely with thousands of US citizens still left in Afghanistan there is a potential for them to be taken as hostages?
Or to work with the Taliban 😉
Politics makes for strange bedfellows.
Prediction –
The bubble is desperate to ‘move on ‘ from Afgee – so there is to be a ‘distraction’- I put my money on a new variant – the most obvious solution …
Maybe the latest from Megharry, who are feeling ignored again.
If The BBC looks back to when His Royal GPMGness was scything Sir Nick’s new mostly not enemy BFFs into chump that will be interesting.
Maybe Marine A as Border Emperor of all the Mines?
The Graun has its own Springster. They should team up.
“Is the BBC deliberately sabotaging Thanet’s tourist trade? That’s what an outraged barman told me.”
A man, in a bar….
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/aug/17/the-latest-conspiracy-theory-about-the-bbc-its-lying-about-the-weather?
But we are talking Zoe here. Who is next level thick.
Knocking boots
Sand in their sandles
Who can we blame for the: ‘Afghanistan “humiliation”‘ – as the Guardian put it? Or the: ‘Hell on Earth‘ of the ‘i’ newspaper – steady on, wait until the Taliban really get going. I guess the BBC’s sister source is keeping its powder dry so to speak in not calling this one a crisis. Anyway, a crisis tends to be an ongoing thing like the climate, whilst Afghanistan appears now to be a fait accompli. I suffer from a slight confusion here – call it cognitive dissonance – since our media always tell me islam is a religion of peace and nothing to worry about. One supposes, like communism, it is just that the Taliban don’t do it properly.
The Guardian of course blames the Tory PM: ‘MPs lambast Johnson over Afghanistan “humiliation”‘
Lambast – interesting word, sounds vaguely cookery related. As though one were basting a lamb. Which diverts me to the Daily Star and an awkward juxtaposition of features on their frontpage where a story about a chain of cheap spicy chicken outlets which previously suffered their supply problems is headlined beside some bad news for that alpaca: ‘Cheeky… Nando’s’, ‘Geronimo has to go‘ – do you fancy extra hot peri-peri and a re-fillable bucket of coke with your flame-grilled llama varient?
‘The Daily Star home of fun stuff‘ – how could I resist The Daily Satyr’s online presence – informs me, among other news, that Prince Harry enjoys a cheeky Nando’s.
Although their top online picture story is headlined: ‘Three-time Olympic gold medallist swimmer says sex gives her “explosive power” and claims doctors advised it before Tokyo 2020‘ – I can’t possibly compete with that news-wise.
‘Knocking boots just before a big event might be good for you, according to Russian synchronised swimmer Alla Shishkina‘
Knocking boots…? Must be a Russian thing.
Where were we? Oh yes, the Taliban marching – or traipsing – into Kabul, still with sand in their boots – or socks… with sandles. Add a fashion crime to the list of their many transgressions against modern western sensibilities.
The Guardian blamed Boris. The BBC meanwhile performs a quick rearguard action on behalf of the incumbent US Pensioner: ‘Afghanistan crisis: Biden says no American will be left behind‘ – there’s a hostage to fortune – if you’ll excuse the pun.
The Times blames Sleepy Joe: ‘MPs condemn Biden over “shameful” US withdrawal‘ – obviously not the same MPs who were busy lambasting Boris. Which goes to prove that whenever you read headlines saying MPs this… or, MPs that… well, there are 650 of the blighters – David Cameron promised to reduce the number to 600 as an austerity measure but of course turkeys, like alpacas, don’t elect to go to Nando’s: ‘Ministers will scrap David Cameron’s proposals to cut 50 MPs‘ – (The London Economic March 2020) – and amusingly the Boris administration blamed Brexit: ‘due to Brexit bringing a “greater workload”’
The Telegraph assumes more the tone of a Lady Bracknell yet repeats the Times headline: ‘Parliament holds the President in contempt‘
Seems to me they held President Trump in contempt but now perhaps their Biden honeymoon is over.
There’s an interesting example of a different style of language on the Telegraph frontpage – this time young American right-on woke speak: ‘Queen did not take “ownership of race allegations”, say Sussexes‘ – a couple who speak very much in the tone of the missus.
The Daily Express provides our translation: ‘Harry and Meghan criticise the Queen‘
Another brilliant one, AISI.
Good post AsIseeIt.
There is seldom a BeeGees petition the BBC’s does not like.
A bit of context.
In other news, these are the guys China funded and arranged political decision making to score Lithium deposit deals.
But Nut Nut’s hubby is after my wood burner next.
Look like something from Biblical times and that is about where their balance is-extreme they be in their beliefs for Islam. We have to understand that there is in their eyes only one God, one ideology ISALM.
New Scientist (the outfit promoting tourist ‘research’ tours to Antarctica via a flight to Tasmania) is flogging a course:
Greener Living: Your guide to climate change and leading a more sustainable life
Run by a bunch of Uni academics.
Likely oversubscribed by BBC attendees who will then add ‘expertise’ to their bios.
TOADY Watch #1 – what a giveaway, shame the BBC did not notice
The BBC LabourToady Party have been busy spilling the Labour Party line this morning: “Get Raab out!”. What? Out of Afghanistan? What is he doing there? No. Get Raab out of office, says Labour, sack him! Funny thing, Keir Starmer loves telling the PM how to run his own Party but we know that, in truth, some in the Labour Party run Keir Starmer. ‘Unsackable Ange’, for example.
What we know from this is that some Civil Serpents at the F&CO (sorry, Fed, you will have to look that one up) have been busy blabbing while their Boss was away on his hols. Blabbing to the Labour Party. Blabbing to the Daily Mail. Blabbing to the BBC. There’s a whole lotta blabbin’ goin’ on! Rock and roll politics.
As Ben Wallace, SoS for Defence, said in the big interview with the Bee Lady at 8.10 a.m., there was no point in telephoning a counterpart in the Afghan Government when he would be out of power faster than ice melts. Ben didn’t get a chance to finish his analogy because the Bee Lady was busy not understanding that the Conservative Government or Ben Wallace, at least, have rumbled what the Civil Serpents are up to.
I mentioned this Dick yesterday. No surprise he went to school in CUCKfield. bBbc Radio Sussex while still at school, then on to Cambridge of course. TV production, telly break with mates, on everything, show with his name on it, bachelor pad in Chiswick, knock out a few novels natch.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9906913/BBC-quiz-shows-edit-offensive-answers-Pointless-host-reveals.html#comments
You couldn’t make this bs up. As expected, CCBGB.
bBbc. Pointless. Countdown. Final hopefully.
Countdown.
So MEGABITCH is fine, but POOFTER isn’t.
It seems also that it is OK for Rachel to describe Donald as the “USA’s first orange president” during daytime TV. She ought to know better, having being on the wrong end of twitter abuse.
Stew mentioned above, an idea that Afghanistan could be part Taliban and part ‘normal’ so that the refugees have somewhere to go in their own Country.
I think this is a great idea but I can see a flaw.
After a while when the Taliban lot are back in their Stone Age existence I can see the free lot doing very well and prospering.
The Taliban lot will cast envious looks at their richer Countrymen and will inevitably move in to put them back on the correct path.
Possibly the richer part could have a well equipped Army to defend itself or maybe it will just end up being Eloi and Morlocks.
EG
Best news today is that the US- sorry IMF have frozen the £350 million gift it was going to give to afgee next week .
The place runs on tribes so calling it a country doesnt work. I guess its game of thrones with AK47s .
Just let it rot .
Meanwhile it must be time for the iranians to test their Bomb . …
I fear that western hostages will be taken and the Taliban will demand the return the frozen cash. Then what?
More dilemmas for Biden and our BBC.
They will likely blame Thatcher.
As all the Libtard Do-good politicians call on the UK to take in 20 thousand or more immigrants, they turn their backs on the poor working class people in the UK who will have to pay for it in a shortage of housing , education, medical aid , low wages etc, etc …….
“Boris Johnson in Parliament, getting the sort of spanking you normally have to pay for in Soho.”
I like this guy – crude, rude and opinionated. That’s how I want my alternative news channels, not all ‘polite’ and phoney ‘impartial’ à la BBC.
He eviscerates Biden, with a sideswipe at Lineker and other libtards.
More like that please, GB News.
Once the US decided, apparently without consultation , to pull out so very quickly, everyone else had to follow suit. There was no prospect of forming a coalition within the few days before the Americans left.
This is the sad end to the endless Western interventions in the MIddle East aimed at trying to foster or impose Democratic Western values and they all end the same way, Islam and western values are incompatible. Only dumb liberals haven’t got the message which is why they still are happy to let in millions of RoPers . One day when they have to face the baying Muslim mob they will realise that they have done but it will be far too late. They are handing the civilisation built by generations over to the medievalists. Rather than worry about CO2 young people should be worrying about how to live under Islam.
Never ever will these Islamists allow any impostion put on them to accept Western Democracy. That mob, Doublethinker is closer that is being seen by governments-55 million Muslims already in Europe all with terrorist intentions all rampaging across every country and no one is stopping them-the Police in Sweden have been told to keep a low profile on questions of Muslim attacks on women. During one Festival in Sweden large groups of young men were harrasing girls sexually-according to the Police the groups were so-called refugee youths primarily from Afgahanistan-one victim only 12 years old-and the UK intends to allow upwards of 20, 000 of them to enter. The UK will go the same way as Sweden and Germany. Afgahan men are accroding to reports the worsed offenders of sexuall assaults. Here come 20,000 more of them. That figure will soon become 40, 000.
Were the same intelligence sources which predicted the stability of the Afghan Government the same as those warning us that the greatest terrorist threat is coming from the far right?
The government cannot do anything to stop the behaviour of the Muslim’s. They are not logic driven, they are religion driven. And no logic can counter that. Why else would someone actually want to be killed while they murder as many infidels as possible first ?.
They keep society from fracturing in two ways : suppress what the Muslims do (like not reporting the rape gangs) and come down ruthlessly on anyone who is prepared to stand up against it (like Tommy Robinson).
The end result is a police state which has now reached the stage of arresting people just for saying what they truly believe if it doesn’t fit the above agenda.
It was the stuff of alarmist sci-fi 70 years ago. Now it’s coming true.
Good point.
Let us get one thing straight about the Muslim-their ideology Islam is intransigently opposed to Western liberal democracy, so is Western liberal democracy intransigently opposed to Islam. Let’s get one thing perfectly clear here: Islam is a violent supremacist political ideology established by the warlord Mohammed in the seventh century, which spread across the globe via violence and terror. And millions of its fanatical followers are now in our country.
To believe in Islam is to have faith in Allah’s Sharia that commands Muslims that they must and will conquer and subjugate the entire world to believe in Muhammad and Allah. Hence to be a true Muslim, one is called upon to assist in global conquest, whether it is by stealth jihad (providing money, intelligence, safe havens, propaganda and other resources) to the jihadists or by being an active war jihadist (slaughtering unarmed and unsuspecting civilians with bombs, guns and knives). It beggars belief therefore that this stupid and now very irresponsible government have agreed to allow 20.000 Afgahan Muslims to settle in the United Kingdom. The Afgahan immigrant throughout Europe has been prolific in commiting sexual violences and in particular against girls and young women. So the Afgahan women might now be afraid of what the Taiban could do to them, so should the British women be very afraid of what the hoardes of Afgahans could effect against them. What Frau Merkel did in accepting thousands of immigrants back in 2015 is now being done by our Prime Minister aided by ignorance of Islam and what it really means. Mayor of London Khan will be so delighted to welcome so many more of his ideological supporters. God help us Brits.
I second JohnC, tarien, and G.W.F.
The chatterati are in no doubt, but porting folk from a dusty hot, patriarchal hellhole to Bradford, which is not hot, looks a recipe for disaster.
Singapore has imported its own issues with eased immigration policies, but has tried to stick to a balance of cultures and avoidance of ghetto culture.
Mandarin, Malay or Indian you get and HDB (council house) where you are told and as a % of national balance. All come from societies used to much about Singapore that will be less of a shock. They even have storm drains that cope with unprecedented rain. Mostly.
And all males do NS. Though a few don’t get to touch stuff that goes boom. Most imported workers on construction are not ethic Chinese and are kept in dorms, especially since C19. There have been issues in Little India with booze riots but fewer from large concentrations of horny young men bored on their day off.
I wonder how many taxis and Nissans cruising North London soon with lads advising what they will do to the lasses in native Afghan (translations available at your local rape clinic)?
The balance part has seen an influx of PRC citizens at the lower end of the scale, so YouTubes of folk having a dump in the bushes at an MRT station need lifting PDQ more and more.