282 Responses to Weekend Thread 25 September 2021

  1. Guest Who says:


  2. Guest Who says:

    What attracts flies?


    • Guest Who says:


      • BigBrotherCorporation says:

        Okay Owen, so what do you suggest us men do about violence towards women then? Just for the record I’m not okay with: castration (chemical OR physical), curfew, or enforced homosexuality, but I’d be open to pretty much any other suggestion you can come up with.

        That’s the problem though isn’t it, there really isn’t a solution, or we’d already be doing it, and you know the problem really is entirely a very small minority of men, most of us seem to have no problem at all avoiding being violent towards women.


        • NCBBC says:

          Among people who actually deal with domestic violence, the opinion is that women are responsible for the vast majority of domestic violence, including violence on men. This is physical violence only, leave alone verbal abuse.

          When the matter comes to the attention of the authorities, be it police or social services, its women who are reporting with lies, or when the man gets fed up and retaliates. Men don’t ever report as it is too shameful.


      • JimS says:

        “Islamic terrorism is the responsibility of Muslims to deal with, not for non-Muslims to change their behaviour to avoid it”

        @OwenJones13andthreequarters says it’s not enough for Muslims to say “it’s not all Muslims” in response to the murder of Saffie-Rose Roussos at the Manchester Arena.


        • NCBBC says:

          “Islamic terrorism is the responsibility of Muslims to deal with, not for non-Muslims to change their behaviour to avoid it”

          I suppose this was the dictum that was being adhered, as mass gang rapes of White girls was/still is, being perpetrated by Muslim men. Muslim gang rape of White and Sikh girls is an internal problem for the Muslim community to deal with, as the police/authorities, deliberately turned a blind eye.

          The above dictum can be applied to all sorts of behaviour. The law would not be required. We can save lots of money and bother defunding the police and judiciary.

          The rapes of native girls was not just a rape/sex problem. It was far more then that. It was signifying that the conquering army has the right to rape women of the defeated men. This has always been the case everywhere, but we have forgotten it. This sort of behaviour should be treated as war being conducted on women by a conquering army, in the appropriate manner.


      • MarkyMark says:

        Women can have beards to …
        Afghanistan: Taliban ban Helmand barbers from trimming beards


    • Seppers says:

      On that I agree with Owen Jones. We should nationalise the most important national infrastructure – many other countries do. Not full on socialism, just a mixed economy.
      I know some on here will disagree, but I don’t follow an established political ideology.


      • NCBBC says:

        I agree. It will then allow the young, who do not know the benefits of socialism, to compare it with market economics.

        Whenever socialism is mixed with anything, in whatever proportions, it makes matters worse.

        But there has to be some socialism as a warning example.


    • JakeTheMuss says:

      Owen Jones with a face even his mother would struggle not to punch! He really smug. Can’t stand him.


  3. Guest Who says:



    • Fedup2 says:

      Nice that the BBC is so concerned about EU border problems so far away – but can’t be asked to fully report on the south coast daily invasions …


      • NCBBC says:

        These are are the all the new Afghans, previously Syrians, who are insistent on breaking the law and entering the EU illegally.

        BTW, Afghans are already being arrested in America for gang rapes and violence. This is the culture in Afghanistan. It was to expected. How dare women walk about barely clothed and free.


    • StewGreen says:

      BBC must be duplicating work
      cos that sounds like the item that was on last month’s FooC

      “Meanwhile, caught in the middle, are the new arrivals themselves, many trapped in no-man’s land on the Belarus-Polish border, as Adam Easton explains.”

      @BrunoBoelpaep @eastonac have never been mentioned in the same tweet


    • Deborah says:

      I thought we were in the middle of a climate crisis. I am surprised it is so cold on the Poland Belarus border in September. Anyway it will soon (in eco terms) be so warm in the evenings that sleeping outside won’t be a problem. (I know I sound a hard-hearted Annie, if not a figment of the BBC’s mind, life must be rotten for these people, but I don’t trust the BBC and don’t believe their story).


      • NCBBC says:

        Life is hard in many places. That does not mean these men/women can walk in wherever they please, demand money, a house and Benefits, and free to engage in whatever culture is deemed OK in their culture.

        The only exception will be Christians who are being horribly persecuted in Muslim countries. But Christians are not allowed to leave Islamic countries, as they will be attempting to avoid the “justice” that was divinely dealt them.


    • G says:

      Where’s Merkel when you really want her?


  4. Guest Who says:

    Mainly in Tottenham?


  5. Guest Who says:

    Woo. P. Doo.


    • Charlie Farley says:

      I’m having to buy Foreign Coal when there are millions of tons here in the UK still underground …utter madness….at least the logs are sourced within 5 miles from me ! , We haven’t watched any BBC for months its just too fantastic !


      • taffman says:

        Charlie Farley
        We have over three hundred years of coal under taffland let alone the oil and gas under the Celtic Sea ?
        Not watching or paying for Al Beeb is very satisfying. Although maxincony might not agree ?


      • NCBBC says:

        We engage in transporting kindlings from the far side of the world for Drax. Thats how silly the AGW and Climate Change scam is.

        I sometimes wonder if authorities are trying out new Monty Python type policies, to see how far they can go, to get people to act like sheep. And they then get together at multiple conferences in places like Bali and Bermuda, and laugh their heads off.

        Now they are going to do the Great Reset. Politicians and civil servants are going to design and implement a new Industrial economy that will run on Renewables and Wind. The assumption is that there is plenty of Renewable hot wind blowing around.


  6. StewGreen says:

    11:30am R4 will claim India is set to give up coal
    “With a growing population of more than 1.3 billion, and a burgeoning middle class, India is facing an energy crunch in the near future.
    Its needs are set to rise more than any other nation’s during the next 20 years,
    according to the International Energy Agency.
    India is currently the world’s third-largest emitter by country
    and it still relies heavily on coal to keep its industries running.
    As other nations are urged to phase it out, how easy will it be for such a fast-growing AND fast- developing nation to ditch one of its favourite fuels?
    Rajini Vaidyanathan explores the dilemma in Odisha state.
    (ah new name for Orissa .. Puri is a town there )

    He’s already done a TV piece ; https://twitter.com/BBCRajiniV/status/1440940877313191937


  7. Nibor says:

    BBC making a complete hash of the driver shortage problems again .
    Firstly Al Beeb , hauliers aren’t drivers . Same as shipping lines aren’t sailors . To say that visas may be given to hauliers is the same as visas might be given to supermarkets .

    Secondly , even if an HGV driver holds an ADR ( hazardous load , dangerous load , something needed to drive tankers) a petroleum company sends a putative new driver on a further three weeks with an experienced driver before he/ she is sent out on his own .

    As you should know BBC , there is a driver shortage in Europe ( to you BBC the EU ) and North America . Have you investigated if there is an glut of spare ADR tanker drivers in your beloved EU ready and willing to move to the UK – or anywhere ?

    The ADR course ( which is in several sections and allows drivers only to carry the sections they take and pass )


    • G says:


      And that’s despite the Government advocating no Ivermectin in accordance with the WHO instructions to give big Pharma a clear run at making a financial killing.


      • NCBBC says:

        Big Tech and MSM were adamant stopping anyone using UCL + zinc as advocated by Donald Trump, as they were intent in destroying Donald Trump. They insisted waiting till untested vaccines could be rushed out. In the meantime millions died.

        If Ivermectin + zinc or HCL + zinc works, then there is no doubt that Big Tech and MSM are responsible for mass murder for political gain.

        It follows that Dr John Campbell’s hope that Ivermectin etc is investigated fully , is a forlon hope.


      • NCBBC says:

        There is a stink in all this

        Big Tech and MSM were adamant stopping anyone using HCL + zinc as advocated by Donald Trump, as they were intent in destroying Donald Trump. They insisted waiting till untested vaccines could be rushed out. In the meantime millions died.

        If Ivermectin + zinc or HCL + zinc works, then there is no doubt that Big Tech and MSM are responsible for mass murder for political gain.

        It follows that Dr John Campbell’s hope that Ivermectin etc is investigated fully , is a forlon hope.


  8. Nibor says:


    The ADR course is a further expense for any freelance HGV driver who fills in at holidays etc .
    It also contains a very off putting first aid section totally unnecessary except to those who are into medical matters .

    Also BBC , when you say that the EU has a greater pool of drivers to fall back on , the EU has a greater shortage of drivers pro rata to the UK .

    The driver shortage obviously is beyond the BBCs ability to understand and explain to the general public as I’ve only touched on some of the reasons for it . I can write and show a fuller picture of this problem , the BBC can only go to organisations like the Road Haulage Association who tell the BBC what it wants to hear then broadcast = Brexit is to blame .


    • G says:

      This debacle is a symptom of what happens if you breed mercenaries like EU ’employees’ who drift around different countries wherever their fancy takes them.


    • Rob in Cheshire says:

      The Road Haulage Association represent the boss class. Of course they want endless cheap workers. Why employ British drivers if they can use cheap easties?

      The likes of the RHA and CBI were pro-EU precisely because it allowed them to undercut the wages of British workers. I have no time for their bleating.


  9. maxincony says:

    JohnC, September 24 2021;

    I don’t have a problem with black people…

    JohnC, October 31 2020;

    every single black person I have known has a chip on their shoulder against whites and said things we could never say to them


    • taffman says:

      Trolling again ?
      Where have you been hiding until now ?


    • JohnC says:

      That is black people having a problem with us maxi.

      Are you really that stupid – or do you have a quota to fill and that was the best your database had ?.

      Grow up man and get yourself some self-respect ffs.


      • maxincony says:


        That is black people having a problem with us maxi.

        every single black person I have known

        …a problem with *us*…”. Yeah, whatever you say, John.


        • JohnC says:

          Jesus wept, how desperate are you now ?.

          Stick to the concept of the issues instead of mass-selective quotations deliberately missing context trying to nit-pick you numbskull.

          I will admit your not the worst troll I’ve ever seen. That honour is reserved for Meghan Markels PR team who tried to troll the DT forums once and were so pathetic, they got called out and humiliated within a week. But you are close maxi and you clearly have much thicker skin.


  10. maxincony says:

    StewGreen, June 20 2021;

    I really do not care for dividing the world up by skin colour

    StewGreen, September 23-24 2021;

    ”Channel4 Taskmaster… same tickbox cast of wokes or BAME.”
    “Heriot is in a 1930’s vet surgery and a black woman has just walked in with her dog.”
    “Dog’s Trust Advert.. all black family, of course”
    “John Lewis advert opens with a black baby”
    “Tiffany jewellery advert : Black man, BAME woman”
    “Patrick sounds like he just stepped off the boat from Africa
    “Olly Stephens murder. They’ll be white I guess”
    “Barclays Bank UK advert comes on, big black girl”
    “Previous video from March… Focus : a black girl”
    “Then a money mentor who s a black man”
    “Pam Aires… Just happens to be with the BLACK actress”


    • taffman says:

      Why the disproportionate number compared to the rest of the population in Great Britain?


    • BRISSLES says:

      Golly ! (can I say that ??) Maxi must agree with that list as he’s repeated it without argument.


    • Seppers says:

      Maxicony, he is clearly questioning the agenda, given the disproportionate representation of certain groups.


    • StewGreen says:

      Me pointing out instances where media people disproportionately air non-whites to tick a box.
      counts as THEM dividing the world by skin colour …not ME


      • NCBBC says:

        The media is not choosing by category of Whites to non- Whites. Its far more selective then that. Its generally Black women first up, Black girls too, White woman with Black man. Black man shows up White man as math and computer illiterate etc. It goes on.

        The media operate on the principle that the more of a failure a racial or cultural type ( Islam comes to mind) is in education and what follows from it, the more the media will compensate by showing that community is overwhelmingly successful.

        The corrolary is that the more successful a community is it will be shown to be ignorant. If it is extremely successful, say in education, it will be made to vanish as if it didnt exist.

        Asians of all types are not shown as if they dont exist.

        If this was done to Jews, it would be Nazi. But its OK to do so against Whites. And Asians are simply scrubbed out.


        • NCBBC says:

          Further to the above. Laurence Auster pointed this out some years back, in 2002.

          “The worse any designated minority or alien group behaves in a liberal society, the bigger become the lies of Political Correctness in covering up for that group.” (source) A “restate[ment]” of the First Law.

          “The more egregiously any non-Western or non-white group behaves, the more evil whites are made to appear for noticing and drawing rational conclusions about that group’s bad behavior.” (source) Stated as the “First Corollary” to the First Law.

          “Once the equality of all human groups is accepted as a given, any facts that make a minority or foreign group seem worse than the majority native group must be either covered up or blamed on the majority.” (source) This may be the original statement of the First Law.

          “The more illegitimate and dangerous you are, the easier it is for you [to immigrate to the West], and the more legitimate and productive you are, the harder it is for you.” (source) A “variation” on the First Law.


          All the above one can see in operation. For instance, it is obvious that Muslims, cannot integrate in Western society, then the authority will do its utmost to allow in as many as they can into the country.

          This can be seen as nothing but to destroy any distinctiveness of the West, and reduce it to global pile of … Its clear that East Asians are not going to allow this to happen to them, despite pressure from the West. Too, Hungary and E Europe are resisting.


    • G says:

      Here, take this Shyster:

      “Demographics of England According to census, average age in England is 37. 4.31% of the population is over 60. Life expectancy at birth for male is 76.92 years while female is 81.14 years.

      The top five races for people living in England are: White(85.4%),Black(3.5%),Asian(7.8%),Mixed(2.3%),Chinese (0.45%) and other ethnic group(0.44%).

      The top five languages (other than English) spoken in England are: Polish(1.04%),Punjabi(0.53%),Urdu(0.52%),Bengali (with Sylheti and Chatgaya)(0.42%), Gujarati(0.42%). As you can see Polish dominate the non-English speaking Language due to immigrant population.

      The religious makeup of England is: Christian(59.38%),Muslim(5.02%),Hindu(1.52%),Sikh(0.79%),Jewish(0.49%),Buddhist(0.45%),Other religion(0.43%),No religion(24.74%),Religion not stated(7.18%).”

      Clearly arithmetic was never a subject the Shyster was interested in.


  11. maxincony says:

    StewGreen, March 27 2021;

    BBC’s mission is to divide the country by sex, skin colour ..intersectionalism… Is it a clever divide and rule thing by libmob/marxistis/globalists ?

    StewGreen, September 24 2021;

    Good 2 hour interview with Lauren Southern…

    Lauren Southern: White Nationalist.


    • taffman says:

      Yes, you are trolling again!
      Have you paid your telly tax or do you get it free?

      Al Beeb’s viewing numbers and its funding is falling again.
      Have you met Nadine Dorries yet, because she may be able to save you ?
      In the meantime have a look at this site ……………..


    • Yasser Dasmibehbi says:

      “Lauren Southern: White Nationalist.


      Nelson Mandela: Black Nationalist.

      And you’re point is…?


    • StewGreen says:

      Maxi trolls by misrepresentation and smear-labels to monster people.
      He said “Lauren Southern: White Nationalist”

      yet in the video there, she often praised the non-white people she’d stayed with and commented on nations
      eg “I found Turkish people as a whole to be very kind”


      • JohnC says:

        He – and the Left in general – have no interest whatsoever in truth except for when it overlaps with their agenda.


    • Rob in Cheshire says:

      Hi Max,

      Just because you say Laura Southern is a white nationalist, doesn’t make it so.

      Some people here think you are a communist troll. Are they right?


    • Sick of it all says:

      ‘Lauren Southern: White Nationalist’

      680,000 subscribers. 50 million views. Widely liked and respected political commentator.

      You? A handful of people on an anti-BBC website who think you’re a timewaster and ball sack.



  12. JohnC says:

    ‘Must See’ for today:

    The missing Americans you don’t hear about

    ‘But for hundreds of thousands of other missing Americans, particularly non-white victims, public attention has been scarce.’

    On the contrary BBC. The only missing Americans anyone has brought to my attention recently are these non-whites you seem to think I need to know about. Yet I’m sure there are plenty of white people in England gone missing who you clearly think are less important than a black American missing for 3 months.

    You won’t find a more desperate attempt to call white people racists than this one. No mention is made anywhere of how nobody reports it because they are most likely just a few more of the hugely disproportionate number of murders of BAME people by other BAME people.

    As usual, the article is written by a non-white BBC employee. I don’t mind if he harbours anti-white resentment but I do mind that the BBC pay him with British taxpayers money to push those views in front of us.


  13. maxincony says:

    BigBrotherCorporation, September 24 2021;

    Madness is contagious, and mass hysteria seems quite easy to induce, particularly in populations which have lost all commonsense.

    Meanwhile, on ‘BiasedBBC’;

    ”I hope we get a no-deal Brexit and I hope it does cause shortages… I hope it it does cause people to go without”
    “I for one hope all the supermarkets get totally emptied and have to close”
    “I am absolutely loving the chaos over gas shortages.. with many Companies going to the wall…”
    “As we all ‘progress’ to the Dark Ages. I’m quite enjoying the ride.”
    “Just thinking, that now the lights going out in Britain would be a really good thing.”


  14. Guest Who says:

    Seems BBC research has been so active compiling selective lists online here it has again failed to notice facts on the ground.

    BBC News

    Images of US border agents charging at migrants have outraged lawmakers and the public.

    Biden: ‘People will pay’ for horseback charge on migrants at border



    This story got the cowboy media excited a while ago, so the bbc doing so now, and claiming the public is too, is very bbc. Especially when most claims have been debunked.

    As they are, in detail, in the comments. Clearly the BBC prefers quietly ignoring French and Australian MiB firing rubber bullets.

    On your bike, Sopes.


  15. Thoughtful says:

    Having a little knowledge can be a dangerous thing, but with the internet it can also lead you down the rabbit hole!

    The media narrative on fuel shortages is a simple one, that a shortage of tanker drivers caused by Brexit is causing fuel shortages, this is a lie.

    Popping onto a transport managers forum and reading the posts there by senior people, this is what you find, that tanker drivers are the best paid and the highest qualified in the industry and comments like they had not seen a tanker driver who was not White British in 40 years of being in the industry.r

    This is seen as a well paid career where qualifications and certification are requirements of the job, starting salaries basic are in excess of £50K pa.

    Many of the transport managers had on site bunkering of diesel and they were saying that despite them employing in house drivers, they could not get the fuel out of the refineries.

    The problem was not with the number of drivers, but they couldn’t say exactly what the issue was.

    There was a deal of speculation without any real facts to support it, but the one overwhelming comment was that there is no shortage of tanker drivers.

    We are being lied to – again !

    (posted at the end of the midweek thread but an ongoing story being used to leverage an influx of foreign drivers to enable wage compression)


    • Fedup2 says:

      There seems to be an assumption that there are ‘surplus ‘ lorry drivers in the EU – and that their pay is so bad as to upsticks and come to blighty to take british jobs …..

      I wonder who has done the maths on the numbers likely to come ? Are we going to be flooded with so called ‘lorry drivers ‘ in their thousands ? Or will it be ‘ a few ‘ ?


  16. Guest Who says:

    Luckily, zero accountability rules apply.


    • Rich says:

      ” I think people on a a Friday night, especially when the family gets around the telly, they’re going to enjoy it “.

      And there is what the bBbc seem so reluctant to accept. The majority of families simply do not do this anymore. There is so much choice, so many ways of watching what you want when you want where you want, that they do not need to. Parents are able to watch something that they enjoy in peace in one room, probably something made years ago, whilst their kids are able to stream and watch anything they want in their own rooms on tablets or even their phones, more and more on Netflix, YouTube and TikTok, not television as we know it at all. There are so many options out there, the bBbc are simply no longer needed.

      I believe that viewing some good quality television together as a family is a good thing, which is why so many families now have “movie nights”, getting together a couple of times a week to watch a film or series they have streamed. They do not gather together to watch a bBbc Sports quiz now attempting to rip-off one Sky have been doing for years, hosted by a mouthy moron and two “celebrities” who, although talented in their chosen sports, are not household names and obviously have been picked to fit the new narrative. Do the bBbc honestly believe that families will fit this into their schedules rather than say a couple of episodes of a decent US drama or a newly released Disney or Marvel movie? It’s not just Corrie they’re up against now.

      They just do not seem to get it. Yet again changing a popular programme in a recognised format in a vain attempt to attract a younger audience oblivious of them, who just do not want to know, alienating their core audience, ultimately appealing to no-one.


      • Garry Lavin says:

        Yes, sticking a younger face on a familiar format does seem like, lazy, unimaginative Telly. They do it over and over again.


      • Sick of it all says:

        And to think a Question of Sport boasts Bernard Manning amongst its alumni.


  17. Guest Who says:

    A bit like the bbc and reality.


  18. Guest Who says:

    As a small landlord, I will post this as I read it…

    BBC News

    “We had a few safety nets, but they weren’t enough for Covid.”

    Awful. But Covid has affected most, if not essential copy pasters on full wedge being sent “quote” press releases.

    Covid debt: A baby, job loss – and now eviction
    By Michael Buchanan, BBC News
    & Maeve McClenaghan, TBIJ

    Now, who might Maeve be?


    Ah, those wonderful people who helped Newsnight on McAlpine.

    At least the lovely couple got a Fick Ange BBC photo shoot out of it, displaying Jo, 24, and her Croydon facelift ‘do to best effect.

    Oh… and… the top comment from a non bbc selected audience:

    “It’s not the job of private landlords to provide social housing … more should be done by government to fund Housing Trusts like Sanctuary Housing … and if the rent had been paid directly to the landlords by welfare as used to be then these arrears would not have happened … £450 is very affordable and realistic so they need to find a way to pay …. there are many out there who would be thrilled to pay that per month“


    • Fedup2 says:

      Guest Who – I read your link to the BBC site and read the piece . I am sure the parents of the couple will help out with their housing needs – particularly since they now have little ‘Roman ‘ to look after ….

      I’m sure the couple have been working to get work in the last1 months in order to pay their debts ……


      • Guest Who says:

        The comments are on the whole reasonable, and mostly from those who know how to budget and where benefits ultimately come from.

        A few are from Jeremy Corbyn’s script writer, apparently unaware that unlike MPs with multiple homes and expenses, some landlords are using rent to survive.

        BBC simply stirring unrest wherever it can.


        • Guest Who says:

          One for Springster…

          “The Labour Party introduced payments to the tenants and not to the landlords…the tenants spent it on themselves.”

          Then Fick Ange?

          Some saying payments need to cover prevailing rents.

          Ours are still at home working and saving.

          They are not in London as they cannot afford to be.

          Or fresh of the RIB with a few wives and a score of kids looking for a des res in Kensington on the taxpayer.


        • Fedup2 says:

          Guest Who

          I am not a private landlord . I could be one if I chose . But I’d rather get my income elsewhere . I’m glad the comments on that story are ‘reasonable ‘.

          There is a big gap between real life and BBC world . Each person is primarily responsible for themselves – the welfare safety net should be a last place to go – not a ‘ go to ‘ whenever there is a problem .

          As the welfare spend is cut back a bit next month and furlough finally ends – we are going to see the BBC in full lefty sail …

          ….particularly with its irrational ‘respect ‘ for Christmas coming along on the horizon …


          • Guest Who says:

            Not one by choice. When Mum needed care we moved her close to look after her then needed income to cover care we could not provide. After that… council Tx, standing charges, mortgage payments… from entities afforded priority legally.

            We’d sell it but it’s in the garden and would become a CGT nightmare.

            Labour and bbc social warriors equating everyone renting out as Rackmans to their core base of benefits, booze, fags and Benidorm voters and supporters wears thin.


            • Fedup2 says:

              Guest who
              Yes you are definitely a wealthy class enemy and have ‘broad shoulders ‘ in Angie world …. I – too had financial challenges looking after my mum – I tried to avoid the State as much as possible .

              As a result I have a strong interest in Elderly Social Care – which didn’t feature in the Toady interview with Angie …


  19. Fedup2 says:

    Socialist Party Conference

    Toady interviews angie the deputy leader …. The leader in waiting ( hopefully ) ….

    Poor Angie – she promised to read the pre interview brief so that she could at least try to give an answer . Instead she used the term ‘broad shoulders ‘ three times in 10 minutes on taking money from some people and giving it to the more deserving ….in her view ….

    It was one of those interviews where our Jeremy wasn’t really too interested in talking to a fellow socialist – he started asking about something called ‘trans right ‘ which I am clueless on and could care less ….
    Of all the issues the UK faces the BBC decided to ask our Angie about something to do with perverts .
    Par for the course I suppose.

    Subjects not mentioned – covid – greens – shortages – employment – Brexit – crime –

    Omission is a guide for us. Apparently Angie had a childhood which wasn’t great – welcome to a big club – but a bit much to make a political career out of it . Scum- as Angie would say …

    A real love in …


    • Guest Who says:

      Fick Ange seems Labour’s last, best hope. Certainly offered to and snapped up by desperate producers left, left and left of centre.

      A hagiographic article even in the Times, replete with moody foto shoot. And deep sorrow at how unhappy she gets.

      Seems the way to leadership glory in politics or media now is to be white, dye your hair and get a dog in studio.

      Or be of color, Labour and once have boffed an anti Semitic commie. Or make Fick Ange seem like Marie Curie (pre Radium).

      If this is what the media in a state thinks holding power to account is, all explained.

      Two cases I can think of where the canine prop unnecessary.


      • Fedup2 says:

        Guest who
        After hearing Angie – who has great comedy value – I weakened a bit and just wondered ‘is that the best Labour has got ?’
        She will get a rapturous reception from the faithful and Kier will start worrying . But then again – as I write this – I realise that it one party can elect a buffoon as PM – the other brand can do the same – so no one should be surprised at Angie PM in a couple of years time …


      • StewGreen says:

        The Times is pretty socialist these days
        it puts Angela Rayner in the Magazine
        & the Sports section has a 2 page Gary Neville article
        “I am a champagne socialist. ”

        And they double report cos they repromote them 10 pages into the main paper.


    • StewGreen says:

      “Socialist Party Conference”
      … all UK parliamentary parties are socialist, except maybe the Ulster Unionists.

      ..but hang on they did the Cash for Ash scheme, where they gave away vast amounts of taxpayer money to anyone who was buying wood to put in burners.


  20. AsISeeIt says:

    Where once loo roll went, there goes petrol

    I believe it was Geoffrey Boycott who explained cricket was a side on game. Well, my news reviews tend to be a sideways look at things.

    Beneath the screaming headlines about shortages we read just a smidgen of true reporting: ‘Motorists panic buying fuel brought much of Britain to a standstill yesterday‘ (Daily Mail)

    ‘...despite minister’s pleas for calm‘ – nice example of the good old ‘despite‘ formula there.

    If the government can slap a virtual D-notice on our media in defence of their covid policies (in the public interest) one wonders why they still let media provoked shortage crisis tales spark our panic buys?

    Are we to have all the disadvantages of a China-lite state controlled media when it comes to health without any of the advantages that might keep the shelves stacked and the pumps flowing for us little people ? I jest, of course.

    Do I over state the influence of the State?

    I read in the freebie Metro yesterday: ‘Cash-strapped students have been warned against becoming money mules

    That one had me scratching my old grey head for a moment. Money mule… is that a modern term congruent with an old-style former hippy turned conformist careerist who might be called by his mates… a bread head?

    Nope, seems as is the modern way we like to remove the notion of criminals having any form of agency. Just as illegal migrants are now the innocent pawns of vague and elusive people traffickers so money mules are hiding illegally laundered cash in their accounts: ‘Fraud prevention group Cifas said the number of under-21s’ accounts showing signs of money mule activity has risen 78 per cent from the first half of last year to the same period this year‘ – which strikes me as pretty damned precise accounting.

    Cifas, you ask…?: ‘Cifas is a fraud prevention service in the United Kingdom. It is a “not-for-profit” membership association representing organisations from across the public, private and voluntary sectors. Cifas states its mission is “to detect, deter and prevent fraud in society by harnessing technology and working in partnership”

    And there was me thinking the activity on my bank account was a close secret between myself, my bank manager – and perhaps under certain circumstances the tax man – and under certain serious circumstances and with a warrant of some sort, the police.

    Remember, it’s not a conspiracy theory if it’s true. Put that popular phrase into google and believe me, you won’t get the same sort of responses if you try a bird in the bush, oh no, you’ll get lots of disinformation warnings.

    There are those who look to government to solve all our problems. We used to call them socialists.

    Seems this lot presently in power have something akin to a one policy fits all approach: ‘The government is planning a temporary scheme to make it easier for foreign lorry drivers to work in the UK‘ (BBC) – nothing is temporary where immigration is concerned.

    Remember when mass immigration was supposed to be the cure for our demographic problem of who was going to pay for our old age pensions and our elderly care? Now every London school class is majority brown and yet still National Insurance has to go up.

    As though the pattern of media response were now a ritual set in stone: ‘Remembering Sabina. Vigil for murdered teacher‘ (Daily Mirror. The heart of Britain)

    Yesterday this same rag – among other titles – ran with the unpleasant: ‘Murdered on way to first date‘ – where’s the feminst outrage at this clearly salacious exploitative headline? The definition of salacious is having or conveying undue or inappropriate interest in sexual matters. So I guess the feminists give it pass in favour of the notion that a woman was apparently killed by a man and they will make hay (as it were) with that.

    By the way, at the risk of sounding salacious, I still want to know if that policeman flashed his warrant card at Sarah Everard?

    At the risk of sounding metrocentric – on the tube yesterday I happened to spot a poster tempting mental health workers to leave London and go to work for the NHS in Cornwall. What’s this then… universal, free at the point of access… poaching one another’s staff?

    Chemotherapy rationed in NHS staff shortage‘ (Daily Telegraph) – come on Health Secretary Savid Javid, waive some more UK visas about, that’s sure to solve our every problem.


    • Guest Who says:


      When I see “not for profit” in the media, especially the bbc, I tend to now assume “nothing left to tax on the books after salaries and expenses; see you in the studio later”.

      Very BBC.


  21. Emmanuel Goldstein says:

    It looks like we are going to be issuing visas to get HGV drivers to come and work here.

    As already mentioned earlier on here by Nibor, the eu actually has a worse HGV driver shortage than we do.

    I wonder how we would feel if Germany was offering higher pay to get 10 or 20 thousand of our own HGV drivers to leave the UK and go to work in Germany.
    It doesn’t sound so fair if we are losing out does it.

    Mind, it’s what we’ve been doing to poor Countries for a while when we take their Doctors and Nurses from them when they are very much needed in their own Countries. (I don’t mean all the Doctors and Engineers being brought over the Channel by the way)


    • StewGreen says:

      When the fire brigade went on strike, the government brought in the military driving their own fire engines.

      Now if you needed a temporary fix, wouldn’t you first try to tempt back the retired drivers ?


  22. StewGreen says:

    Formulaic local radio news
    It seems like each area has got a carefully cropped bit of the Keir Starmer speech, which says … “for the people of X-town” where X is a town in that local area.


    • Guest Who says:

      BBC Democracy Reporting is hilarious.

      Like Biden not reading the teleprompter and not guessing which city he’s in.

      They do love a road blockage by XR anywhere.

      Then get excited by ones caused by their idiot fearmongering at carefully selected supermarkets or petrol stations. Often in other countries.


      • StewGreen says:

        I don’t know if the BBC cropped the speech, or whether Labour PR has sent crops to each BBC local station.


    • Guest Who says:

      ‘ASDA at the roundabout is rammed. Get down there now…’

      ‘But Morrison’s looks fin…..’

      ‘I said… ASDA… at the roundabout…’


  23. Fedup2 says:

    As moderator – having gone back through the overnight comments –
    It gladdens my heart that the nocturnal troll now has a database of past comments by posters here . Perhaps the BBC is so worried by sites such as this one that it is employing such people to monitor us and record our comments .
    Good for the BBC and its’ trolls – it shows we are winning – slowly but surely ….strange that the troll never defends his employer though …


    • StewGreen says:

      @Fed The purpose of such driveby seems to be to INTIMIDATE
      potential commenters from exercising their free speech.
      Ironically Southern’s interview spoke of own family’s immigrant background ..And the communist intimation trick of collecting LISTS OF NAMES .
      and repeated misrepresentation to monster people.

      People should feel FREE to exercise their free speech here , cos that is part of the journey to the truth through open debate.
      … And as part of that people have the right to be wrong
      I have seen in the past people, even trolls come round to our side , so I wouldn’t hold their old posts from years ago against them.


  24. gb123 says:

    The way the media , and BP have bigged up the fuel situation could have some very dangerous consequences. If you look at the idiots filling up at petrol stations with multiple extra cans ,it is an accident waiting to happen. I doubt if the media would care if a fire breaks out. More stuff to sensationalise and report on. The next thing will be get rich quick guys selling black market petrol. Just as with toilet rolls from the back of a van.


  25. Doublethinker says:

    Fox News confirms that the Arizona audit report says that the audited vote totals were very close to those originally recorded last November. The report also says that there were questions over the veracity of postal voting. But the findings will be taken by the MSM as finally confirming Biden’s win and doubters will be dubbed conspiracy theory nutters.
    My view is that either a lot of anti Biden folks colluded to spread the rigged election theory producing mountains of data to support their conspiracy , or the auditors have been made an offer they couldn’t refuse.
    If the election was rigged the forces who did it must have had great power and I’m sure that power would have been used to make certain that the facts never see the light of day.


  26. StewGreen says:

    11:30am radio4 FooC
    – This weekend’s German elections as Angela Merkel stands down
    the reporter mentioned Greens being #3 but having difficulties
    She didn’t seem to mention afD at all

    – US corps sold opioids as painkillers, despite being highly addictive.
    Patients even switched to heroin to ease their withdrawal symptoms.
    Daniel Thomas says the Oxycontin owners reached a settlement that cleared them of blame

    – Colombia : FARC, is now signed up to a peace deal with the government it had fought for decades.
    eight million internal refugees
    thousands more went missing during the conflict,
    Mathew Charles heard the story of one woman’s life in a time of violence.

    – India : BBC reporter Rajini Vaidyanathan report against coal.
    But ends by saying It’s whitey that made all the CO2 in the past so Indians are entitled o high CO2 now.
    Hmm India’s population is 20 times the UK’s

    – Ireland : the population is increasing – with numbers topping five million for the first time since the 1850s famine.
    Kieran Cooke with “some interesting returnees.”


    • Fedup2 says:

      I listened to that . The feature on coal use in India reminded me that if human climate change was real – then we might as well not bother doing anything about it because –

      1 the population of India is 1.3 billion
      2 tens of millions don’t have access to electricity
      3 hundreds of millions are dependent on coal
      4 energy needs for India are rapidly increasing
      5 India is opening more coal mines
      6 India will tell the woke west – take a running jump

      So next time someone lectures you on hydrocarbon use – think on the above .

      By the way in the programme that followed it was mentioned that we could cut energy cost by 5% immediately by removing VAT – because of Brexit …


  27. Emmanuel Goldstein says:

    You would think that MPs should know better than to use “no need to panic buy” when commenting on the latest shortage (petrol)

    As soon as I heard the panic word mentioned I knew that would trigger the start of mass panic buying.

    The MPs are either stupid to say this or are playing some cunning game for their political manoeuvring.

    If one of them said tomorrow “don’t panic buy baked beans” you could guarantee a run on baked beans.
    So predictable.


  28. Fedup2 says:

    Heres a good one – a half wit red tory MP suggesting thaf afgee ‘ refugees ‘ who used to drive HGVs in afgee – should fill the driver shortage in blighty …, sometimes – i really wonder …


  29. Thoughtful says:


  30. Fedup2 says:

    The BBC still reports Covid data in the propaganda it calls ‘ news ‘ . It groups data from wales england and scotland – but excludes Northern Ireland .

    Now i heard somewhere that Covid infections and deaths in scotland were x2 that of england ( as per population). If this is true surely it makes the data meaningless .


  31. StewGreen says:

    Propaganda 24 hours has just started
    5:30pm BBC1 Global Citizen Live ..mainly focused on Climate Change
    across all bbc channels


  32. Philip_2 says:

    Parliamentary Mp’s finally discover the truth about the BBC.

    Experts who appear on BBC news ‘should declare political views’

    Academics and experts who appear on BBC news programmes should be made to declare their political affiliations, MPs have said, as they accused the corporation of keeping audiences in the dark.

    Prof Susan Michie, who sits on a sub-group for the Government’s Sage advisory body, has been a member of the Communist Party of Britain for more than 40 years.

    The “independent Sage” group of scientists, which has regularly criticised the Government for failing to impose tougher Covid restrictions, is run by a body that has Carole Cadwalladr, the activist journalist, as its founder.

    Mark Harper, the former minister who leads the Covid Recovery Group of Conservative MPs, said: “It’s important that the public is well informed about who they are watching or listening to in the media so they can accurately weigh up the information presented.

    ‘Viewers and listeners should be told’…



    The trouble with all of this, is that we have all been here before…
    Under Patricia Hodge parliamentary select committee.
    and the BBC have done absolutly nothing to reform. They don’t even admit to being biased! They have yet to even admit that Jimmy Saville ever worked for them (or his BBC chaufeffeur who was also PAYE BBC employee). Its just astonishing how the BBC get away with it for over forty years. Its traceable back to the 1980’s (John Birt) when the switch from ‘conservative’ to ‘socialist weekly’ has just snow-balled into what is the worst aspect of Russian orthodoxy dressed as liberal values. Even the Guardian has more values than the BBC.

    The truth is the BBC is beyond reform internally. The humane method is just to defund the BBC and let its (so called) ‘experts’ face opposition and proper competition in the real world. We need to put them out of the misery they inflict upon the nation, dreary, carping, insidious, agenda driven, EU focused, anti-patriotic navel gazers who’s highest desire is to put the ex Labour leader Tony Blair back on the throne. As if he was the answer to anything.

    Defund the BBC is the only way to reform the BBC. Even when they lie, they reward those that were involved. Martin Bashir did not work alone….
    He will be paid off or promoted. They all are.



    • taffman says:

      How many readers here are still paying the telly tax?


    • Lefty Wright says:

      The Western World is like a honeycomb where each little compartment has been deliberately infected, by our homegrown traitors, with the dreaded Marxist larvae with the sole intention of destroying the hive.
      Joseph McCarthy had a point and is probably looking down on us and thinking “I told you so.”


  33. Northern Voter says:

    Not just the “experts”, the presenters and autocue readers should declare their political leanings.


    • Fedup2 says:

      I think they should declare their income / wealth as well . I d like to know what sort of character is preaching at me …

      … talking of money – i see that brillo was being paid £4 million at GB news – i bet murdock will be paying more – again .

      I wonder if he ll use the same homily ?


  34. taffman says:

    “Afghanistan: Taliban hang bodies as warning in city of Herat, say reports”
    Things haven’t changed. They are still in the Middle Ages.


    • Thoughtful says:

      They might be in the Middle ages but their treatment of criminals far out paces our hopeless liberal politicians. given the chance I’d rather live knowing theives and drug dealers would be properly dealt with than this anarchy we have to live with!


  35. taffman says:

    “Actor Michael K Williams died of accidental drug overdose, coroner confirms”
    “US actor Michael K Williams died after overdosing on a combination of heroin, cocaine, fentanyl and p-fluorofentanyl, the New York Chief Medical Examiner has confirmed.”
    Accidental ?
    Self inflicted. Just don’t take illegal drugs .


    • BigBrotherCorporation says:

      “Michael K Williams died after overdosing on a combination of heroin, cocaine, fentanyl and p-fluorofentanyl”

      …a COMBINATION of heroin, cocaine, fentanyl AND p-fluourofentanyl…

      That must have been one hell of a party (while it lasted).


    • Sick of it all says:

      Where did he learn that cocktail, the Difford’s Guide to Street Drugs?

      Play stupid games etc.


  36. tomo says:


  37. Emmanuel Goldstein says:

    I’m tempted to ask…….



  38. taffman says:

    “Lorry driver shortage: Temporary visa scheme to run until Christmas Eve”
    We are living under an incompetent government. It is continually reacting to events . It has no future plans that are of any use . It has no contingency plans. They just don’t know what they are doing.
    Why hasn’t Nadine Dorries sorted Al Beeb out yet ? Is she going to be like Priti , a damp squib?
    Even worse , there is no effective opposition.


    • JimS says:

      My worry is that they do know what they are doing.

      World-wide there are just so many mistakes, bad judgement calls and oversights going on that ‘accidents’ happen is no longer as reassuring as it used to be.


  39. Up2snuff says:

    BBC WEB-SITE Watch #1 – unfortunate photo disappears quickly from Home Page

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world but still appears here until the BBC decide it looks too sinister for anyone to see. Outgoing German Chancellor, Angela Merkel, and her favoured successor, Armin Laschet, appear to be giving National Socialist salutes.



  40. Up2snuff says:

    BBC WEB-SITE Watch #2 – idiotic question and propagandally unfortunate photo remain on Home Page

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/ Scroll down page to about midway

    The idiotic question “What will Climate Change look like in your area?” The BBC urge: “Try our post-code checker to get a glimpse of what may lie ahead.” I have a question, the BBC seem very keen to get hold of peoples’ post-codes. Is that so that they can ‘monetise’ them?

    The propaganda photo shows cooling towers with water vapour streaming from them in the far distance, adjacent to a motorway pictured at night.


  41. davylars says:

    Interesting article from the telegraph regarding renewables, that we will never hear on the BBC…


    Wind farms paid nearly £2m to switch off – even as customers face soaring energy bills

    An analysis by the Renewable Energy Foundation (REF), a charitable think tank that has criticised wind energy over its reliability and cost, found that 38 wind farms – all in Scotland – received payments totalling £1.85 million over the course of three days not to generate electricity.

    High winds, low winds – whatever the weather, the consumer suffers’
    Dr John Constable, the director of REF, said: “Uncontrollable and heavily subsidised generation such as wind-power has made the UK electricity system into a costly and dysfunctional joke.
    “High winds, low winds – whatever the weather, the consumer suffers. It’s almost the only thing about wind that is reliable.”



  42. Guest Who says:

    Vile reads the room with customary aplomb.

    And no, he has no friends.


    • Thoughtful says:

      Big difference is Lorry drivers are paid the minimum wage and are the lowest paid in W Europe exploited by greedy supermarkets like the farmers were until people found out and were disgusted.

      GPs on the other hand are the highest paid in W Europe and earn as much as some BBC presenters.
      The problem here is that GPs have had a great deal of time away from surgery feigning fear over covid – lorry drivers haven’t.
      They still refuse to believe any evidence which contradicts the Chinese Communist Party line over Covid.

      There is an issue with training of doctors caused by medical schools looking to maximise income by training foreign doctors.
      There is also an issue with nurse training and an expectation the NHS can simply call for more immigration while British people fail to be trained in the career of their choice.


      • StewGreen says:

        GPs are NOT NHS employees , they are private contractors
        .. It seems from published salaries they pay themselves what they want.

        BTW lorry drivers get more than minimum wage
        but if they overnight in a cab that’s different to an office job.

        I wonder if EU drivers had a habit of working everyday for 8 weeks ..and thus got to live without paying UK rents or council tax ?


    • JimS says:

      The rational response would be to start encouraging boys to be doctors but that will be difficult.

      Doctoring is one of those jobs in which boys followed their fathers into the trade which they followed into their 70s.

      But now doctoring is a female business and no son wants to be like his mum so it is daughters only now.

      Just like mum they will work part-time, no home visits to patients anymore. Just like mum they will marry someone with a good paying job, consultant, medical lawyer etc.

      Just like mum they will retire at 35 to a small holding and breed dogs and chickens.

      Work half the hours for half the years and we have a GP crisis – well what a surprise!

      Meanwhile the BBC runs Doctor Phil’s Bedside Manner in which he talks to hospital staff around the country and the work they do. But don’t forget, however good the individuals are, all praise the NHS that brooks no criticism.


  43. Thoughtful says:

    Following the story of the lorry drivers I have noted that one company above all other is screaming loudest about a shortage, and that is Tesco which pays little more than minimum wage and is so niggardly it won’t increase that pay even with the threat of strike action.

    Many will remember the way greed ridden bosses at supermarkets were exposed for forcing farmers out of business with their ludicrous business practices and that alas has been carried on in the transport sector with only this week another HGV firm going to wall with the simple explanation they simply weren’t being paid enough money to survive.

    This is the way greed works. bleed suppliers dry, scream to the government there is no supply and hope a coward like Boris is PM and will instantly fold and find another source!

    Trouble is that as soon as another source is found they will begin bleeding that one dry too.

    Supermarkets are like the vampires of the high street sucking the life out of every company which is unfortunate enough to supply them


    • taffman says:

      Spot on!


    • Sick of it all says:

      Tesco are also one of the least diverse employers in London. Staff at their Express branches and indeed in most of their superstores, are overwhelmingly non-white, with the majority being of South Asian extraction. Any criticism of their obviously discriminatory hiring practices is met with crickets.


  44. tomo says:


    • StewGreen says:

      Cos news staff see their job as being
      #1 Promote metroliberal agendas
      #2 Suppress agendas that counter metroliberal agendas


  45. JimS says:

    Something that the BBC taught me today:

    Mozart is problematical – no argument

    I remember the innocent gusto with which we young lads would sing out “You must learn to smoke tobacco” from The Marriage of Figaro.

    It might surprise the triggered females of the BBC but that was a skill that I had no interest in doing whatsoever. (In retrospect perhaps I should have, then when the doctor tut-tuts there would have been a positive action that I could take!).


  46. taffman says:

    “TV channels go off air after fire alarm”
    “Viewers of Channel 4 reported seeing a still screen for about 25 minutes, while Channel 5 was also off air for about 30 minutes.”
    “Wales’s public service broadcaster S4C, which was also affected, said the problem was caused by a fire alarm at a London distribution centre.”
    Good riddance.


  47. taffman says:

    “Labour conference: Tax private schools to help poorer children, says Starmer”
    Another own goal by Labour in fact, ‘back of the net’.


  48. vlad says:

    Those interested in the saga of Andrew Neil and GB News can read all about it in today’s DM, link below.

    Andrew breaks down in tears mid-interview, apparently, and Mail journo Rebecca Hardy feels moved to hug him.

    Aw, diddums (I hope there wasn’t any inappropriate touching).

    A recurring theme in Andrew’s reminiscences here and elsewhere is that he absolutely didn’t want GB News to become like that horrible ‘fake news’ Fox.

    Personally I think Fox News is precisely what this country needs, if only to balance-out all the other lefty broadcasters and give viewers a real choice.

    GB News might be better off without Neil.



  49. StewGreen says:

    Quite funny I suppose