617 Responses to Midweek Thread 29 September 2021

  1. MarkyMark says:

    “IOPC regional director Miranda Biddle said: “There is no place in policing for officers who make offensive comments of any kind, whether on or off duty and whether in a public or private forum.”

    So anti white comments are bad as well? This will be interesting.


    • StewGreen says:

      ” Scott faced *six* allegations of gross misconduct”
      yet the BBC only list 3
      allegations included:
      – Sharing an image of George Floyd that had been used by far right groups
      – Making homophobic remarks relating to a senior police officer wearing an LGBT lanyard
      – Making inappropriate comments about a chief constable taking the knee during a Black Lives Matter protest


      • tomo says:


        The disciplinary document is a public document?

        Half the charges missing looks dodgy … FoI ?


  2. StewGreen says:

    The tiny petition to ban Simon Webb has gathered 144 signatures in 2 weeks

    It’s trolling/harassment of course using the MO
    The person misrepresents him to monster him
    Usual projection as the very labels they stick on Webb seem to apply to they themselves.

    Webb’s own video has already got 5,800 Likes in 7 hours


  3. MarkyMark says:

    1. The government has paid £114 million to the French government in order to stop illegal immigration originating from that country since 2015 (Parliamentary Answer, 16 June 2020) – see par. 4 below.


  4. vlad says:

    Listen to this Senator demolish the US Generals trying to cover up for Biden’s lies over Afghanistan.

    How long can the BBC keep covering up for the Cadaver in the White House, and pretend the Imbecile is fit for office?


    • Thoughtful says:

      There appears to be a great deal of non logic over this! Just because a treacherous lying General and his number two actually declined to answer the question is far far from confirming that Biden either misremembered or lied about what advice he was given, and the real truth is, after this we simply don’t know what the truth is.

      The Generals keep saying what their personal opinions were / are but refuse to answer questions on what advice they gave to Biden on the grounds of confidentiality.

      Just watch this, and remember that it almost certainly wasn’t Biden misremembering, but another example of the loss of control over state institutions which happened under Obamas presidency.


      • vlad says:

        All part of the swamp.


      • Doublethinker says:

        A fish rots from the head. But it is clear that Biden is being set up to take the blame and he will be leaving office quite soon and must legally be replaced by Harris. The question is who is planning all this ? There are tens of thousands of swamp creatures but they can’t function as an amorphous mass , they need to be coordinated by a small leadership group . Who is in that group and what is their ultimate objective? It must go far beyond installing Harris in the WH and far beyond what most of rank and file swamp creatures envision, they are merely expendable foot soldiers who are thrown a few crumbs from time to time. Who is really calling the shots?


        • tarien says:

          That small group will include the man behind The World Economic Forum-followed with those who have been preparing us the people for a New World Order, it’s on its way folks, aided by of course the likes of the media headed by the BBC no doubt.


  5. Thoughtful says:


  6. MarkyMark says:


    President Trump’s 100 Days President Biden’s 0 Day 

    Dear Winston Smith in the Records Department of the Ministry of Truth,

    You covered President Trump’s 100 Days and then produced a Beyond 100 Days to hold power to account.

    Why have you not done the same for President Biden to hold power to account?

    ‘Omission is the greatest form of lie.’ 


    Thank you again for contacting us,

    BBC Complaints Team


  7. MarkyMark says:

    Labour conference: Starmer sets out ‘serious plan’ for government

    Serious plan in quotes!!!


    He got a standing ovation, but was heckled by some left-wingers.

    “Labour spent five days talking to themselves about themselves instead of to the country.”


    • Guest Who says:

      bBC radio joke

      Three young England football fans set up a petition calling for racists to be banned for life from all matches in England. They are #TheThreeHijabis.

      The Three Hijabis: ‘Football belongs to all of us’


      If young, early life has been hard.


      • MarkyMark says:

        Three England football fans have set up a petition calling for racists to be banned for life from all football matches in England. #TheThreeHijabis – as they call themselves – were responding to the shocking levels of racism directed towards Marcus Rashford, Jadon Sancho & Bukayo Saka on social media after their missed penalties resulted in England losing to Italy in the final of the Euros.

        – – – – –


        Saudi Arabia’s religious police stopped schoolgirls from leaving a blazing building because they were not wearing correct Islamic dress, according to Saudi newspapers.
        In a rare criticism of the kingdom’s powerful “mutaween” police, the Saudi media has accused them of hindering attempts to save 15 girls who died in the fire on Monday.

        About 800 pupils were inside the school in the holy city of Mecca when the tragedy occurred.


        • tarien says:

          Unbelievable? Marky, no its not unbelievable as you and I know, it is the evil ideology of Islam that creeps further through our simple misunderstanding country. The main culprits are not only the Government but the Media/BBC. Any possible crisis is music to their ears. Why are people so naive in this country-with the exception of a few, day after day the full flood of viciousness against members of our indigenous peoples continues by those who claim to follow the teachings of Islam.


  8. MarkyMark says:

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  9. Guest Who says:

    Oh dear.


  10. Guest Who says:

    Sopes to the rescue?


  11. Guest Who says:

    BBC Newsbeat

    You may have queued for hours or had to cancel plans this week because you couldn’t get fuel… but spare a thought for those working at petrol stations.

    Forecourts have been crowded, customers have been aggressive, and many staff aren’t trained to deal with it.

    That’s according to one worker who spoke to us about these “unprecedented times”.




    The use of ‘unprecedented’ was a hint.


  12. Doublethinker says:

    I have re watched a Delingpole episode from last November about the Tri Lateral Commission and build back better. It’s not available on You tube , James is banned from there, but is available on Rumble. James is in conversation with a chap called Woods. Much of what they discuss gives a good explanation of various trends that we see in the modern world. I think it also explains why Trump was so viciously crushed and why Brexit is so vigorously opposed internationally. It’s worth a watch but you do have to persevere through the first twenty minutes or so which doesn’t seem relevant to the modern world.


  13. Sluff says:

    The BBC’s political wing has finished its annual conference in Brighton.

    And to back up the message, the BBC interviews some students …..in Dudley.
    Students. A group of idealists who have never paid any tax and sees the world only through the prism of gifts from the public sector.
    Who, hey presto, are minded to support Labour.


    • Fedup2 says:

      Sluff – if you wait a few days it will be repeated – they’ll change the colour scheme from red to blue ….although I suspect a lot of ‘delegates ‘ will be stuck in queues to get petrol ..


    • BigBrotherCorporation says:

      When I was a student, back in the late 80s/early 90s, no one would ever have admitted they supported the Tories, no one, I knew at the Uni DID support the Tories. I certainly didn’t, and had arguments with my poor old dad about him voting for them.

      Then we all left, got jobs, got married, started families, and now… nope, not one I’ve kept in contact with DOESN’T vote Tory (although some are having second thoughts about that currently, they’re certainly not going back to Labour). And we argue with our kids, some of whom think it’s wrong we vote for the ‘evil party’.

      I still recall, aged maybe 13 or 14, arguing with my Dad about him voting for Thatcher (the ‘evil milk snatcher’) and him saying “Look son, you’ll understand when you’re older”. Well, now I am older, and I do understand, really I do.


      • Scroblene says:

        I was even worse, Big, because I told my dad I was interested in the Liberals!

        I still remember someone at school exclaiming that the Libs (under Grimond), had won a seat in the ’59 GE, when they won a massive total of six seats!

        Vote for the underdog? Me?

        Luckily I grew up too!


  14. Fedup2 says:

    Sluff – I monitored the 5pm news and their reporting of the Starmer 89 minute drone was a bit different from what I heard ….
    Personal attacks of nut nut seem ok for the day after he buried his mother ….


  15. Guest Who says:

    The BBC clicked its heels, and…


    • MarkyMark says:

      “…sixteen and a half thousand people in County Durham in receipt of food parcels. To the nurses, to the junior doctors, to the firefighters…” @3:27 {Laura Pidcock | Maiden Speech | jul2017}

      A nice clear speech, but Linda Pidcock can you clarify …

      – do you mean 16.5K people need food parcels or do you mean 16.5K food parcels are used? Two very different things.
      – is 16.5K parcels just for the nurses, doctors and firefighters or for people in other circumstances, you focus on these professions because more of them use food banks?
      – do you have a breakdown of the people collecting food parcels with a link?
      – Population of County Durham (50K @ 2011) and a food parcel being usable for one day means parcels feed 0.09% of County Durham?
      – if 16.5K people are using food parcels all the time, then 16.5/50 then 33% of County Durham are struggling to be feed – this statistic would be very scary indeed and a better one to use if correct?

      *statistics can be so confusing*


      • BigBrotherCorporation says:

        She’s really not very bright, is she?

        Ok, there aren’t really that many in the Labour Party who do strike me as particularly clever people, and there are a few… Lammy… (cough) Di Abbot…Red Ange… that fat Lady Nugee woman… who really come across as thick as two short planks and in no way should EVER have been elected as MPs.

        There is far too much emotion and attempted tugging at heart strings, and not enough logic and cold hard facts. My mum claims politics has been ruined by all the women involved, and women voters (and my mum was a radical feminist back in her youth, and quite outspoken about women’s rights!) Her logic for this apparently ‘misogynist’ statement, is that a lot of women aren’t ‘rational at the best of times and vote with their hearts, not their heads’. Not sure I agree with her, but it’s an interesting point.


        • moggie63 says:

          Whenever I see some of the inhabitants of the HoC I have to wonder just how thick you can be and still become a lawyer.


  16. Deborah says:

    I sometimes watch a little of the local news at 6.30. I switched on a little early and saw that a statue has been erected in Cardiff to a black lady. Apparently she wanted to be a teacher but was told she might not be able to because she was black. Was she more exceptional than any white teacher. I don’t know but I know that anything I would be told about her by the BBC would be through rose tinted glasses.

    But we then switched to local news. There is a possibility of drilling for oil in Lincolnshire. Peter Levy was interviewing a 14 year old who thinks she is the next Greta and had pleas for the Councillors who will need to give authority to think of the next generations. I switched off. I hope Peter asked her was she willing to study in a school where room temperatures were down 10 degrees, where she would have to bike to all her extra curricular activities and where she may have to scrape ice off her bedroom window on icy mornings. I bet he didn’t.


    • Foscari says:

      Deborah-In London we have a local news “service” on
      BBC TV second to none at representing all but the
      odd three million indigenous folk who still live in the
      It is run by an anarchist .Marxist editorial group as you
      are ever likely to find in the democratic west. The stooges who
      present the programme willingly do their masters bidding.
      This evening’s major topic was about knife crime in London.
      And the fact how the “pigs” who show what kind of knives
      are being used on the net are really the villains of the peace.
      But the programme is infamous at slagging off the Metropolitan
      Police. As any good anarchic organization would be.
      Douglas Murray is his books often relates to the fact that to
      cover up what crimes, for instance Muslims grooming rape
      gangs are responsible for. Or Black knife slashing drug gangs
      going about their business. Secondly reasons are found to
      explain it away, especially by the BBC. We have to understand
      that we are dealing with a different culture. The police are
      the problem by showing us the knives that the scum use.
      Aren’t we lucky in London to have a local TV programme to
      explain all of this to us?


      • JimS says:

        “villains of the peace” or Villains of the piece?

        You are probably right!


      • MarkyMark says:

        “It is growing (gang r*pe culture), there’s no doubt about that. A large amount of the growth in my view is about raised awareness.” – Cressida Dick @1:40 {youtube}

        “I don’t think this was a phenomena (gang r*pe culture) that was invented in the last few years. It really wasn’t. It’s been part of our society probably for centuries and centuries and centuries. It’s hard to really know exactly what is really going up and what is changing. ” – Cressida Dick @2:38


    • Scroblene says:

      Cardiff people didn’t do Shirley Bassey any harm did they?


  17. MarkyMark says:

    Of the 22 people who lost their lives, questions remain relating to whether two could have survived – the bombing’s youngest victim Saffie-Rose Roussos, who was eight years old, and John Atkinson, who was 28.

    Next week, the inquiry will start to examine their cases.


    lost their lives
    lost their lives
    lost their lives
    lost their lives

    22 Lost in Manchester …. why is this a terrible statement?

    Lost … so they will be found?

    Lost …. weasel words rather than killed or murdered so as not to upset anyone or cause HATE.

    Lost ….. a child given a Western education and opportunity decided Islam was better, but we cannot look into this problem because all cultures are EQUAL.

    Lost …… children killed for an ideology, but that ideology cannot be criticised.

    Lost …….. 1400+ kids were “transformed” over 16 years in 1 town, why not use the word groomed rather than raped.

    Lost ……… the UK has lost the ability to state the actual events, so it is the UK that HAS LOST.


    • Fedup2 says:

      Marky – the motivator for suicide bombings – namely Islam – is routinely omitted . Even Starmer – today – claimed involvement in the attempt to bring down aircraft going from UK to US – he described them as ‘terrorists ‘ but left out the Islamic but .

      As for Manchester – the cowardice of the emergency services – dressed up with risk assessments and health and safety – is going to make them look just – poor …. And the kids they were meant to be protecting – paid the price …


  18. tomo says:


  19. Zephir says:

    Watch out for the weasel words oft used by the bbc especially :

    Racism, confused with tribalism ? what is the difference ..so many you tube videos of muslims abusing south east asians, jews and christian preachers IN ENGLAND, and how many “diversity courses ” are going to eradicate 250 000 years of tribalism at the bbc or anywhere else ?

    white supremacy oft confused with pride in ones culture and heritage, when applied to black or muslim culture all of a sudden does not apply

    And also informing to recognise that the many Hindus, Sikhs and south east asians thrive in this countery without rioting looting, gang raping kids, and blaming the indigenous population for their problems


  20. Zephir says:

    The best thing to ensure equality in this country would be to get rid of racism laws, I was in a shop the other day close to a gypsy camp and watched one of them abuse a 16 year old girl at the till shouting at her she still refused to give him credit and then he reverted to you are racist ( and threats to return later)
    Police seem to be pleading to get these bullying scum to approach them with their complaints
    I will guarantee if you ever get in an argument with a muslim or a gypsy whatever the cause, that will appear within the second sentence


  21. Thoughtful says:

    No doubt everyone is aware of the gloom and doom surrounding Fuel food and other goods, and no doubt have also seen the Remoaners blame it all on Brexit, however this is not realistic, and here is some proof for people:


    There is a sinister side to this, that being why it is happening in so many parts of the world at the same time.
    A friend who sometimes accesses the dark web found US Military people had been telling friends and families to stock up on food months ago, how did they know back then what was going to happen?


  22. MarkyMark says:

    KEIR Starmer has been the leader of Labour Party since April 2020.

    The MP for Holborn and St Pancras is fiercely private about his personal life- but who was Starmer’s dad Rodney?

    HA HAH HA HA !

    fiercely private about his personal life
    fiercely private about his personal life
    fiercely private about his personal life



  23. MarkyMark says:

    Can we dispel the myth that Keir Starmer is anything resembling ‘working class’—far from being the ‘son of a toolmaker’, his father ran the bloody factory! He’s a millionaire lawyer from London born into a managerial middle class family. He knows nothing of working class life.


  24. Zephir says:

    Angry protesters gather outside Old Bailey as killer cop Wayne Couzens is sentenced for Sarah Everard’s murder – as Cressida Dick faces fury over why he was working despite being accused of indecent exposure


    No angry protesters here though, despite twenty bloody years of it:

    The Rotherham child sexual exploitation scandal consisted of the organised child sexual abuse that occurred in the town of Rotherham, South Yorkshire, Northern England from the late 1980s until the 2010s and the failure of local authorities to act on reports of the abuse throughout most of that period.[8] Researcher Angie Heal, who was hired by local officials and warned them about child exploitation occurring between 2002 and 2007, has since described it as the “biggest child protection scandal in UK history”.[9] Evidence of the abuse was first noted in the early 1990s, when care home managers investigated reports that children in their care were being picked up by taxi drivers.[10] From at least 2001, multiple reports passed names of alleged perpetrators, several from one family, to the police and Rotherham Council. The first group conviction took place in 2010, when five British-Pakistani men were convicted of sexual offences against girls aged 12–16.[11] From January 2011 Andrew Norfolk of The Times pressed the issue, reporting in 2012 that the abuse in the town was widespread, and that the police and council had known about it for over ten years.[a]

    The Times articles, along with the 2012 trial of the Rochdale child sex abuse ring, prompted the House of Commons Home Affairs Committee to conduct hearings.[14] Following this and further articles from Norfolk, Rotherham Council commissioned an independent inquiry led by Professor Alexis Jay. In August 2014 the Jay report concluded that an estimated 1,400 children,[15] had been sexually abused in Rotherham between 1997 and 2013 by predominantly British-Pakistani men (Kurdish and Kosovar men were also involved).[16][13] British Asian girls in Rotherham also suffered abuse, but a fear of shame and dishonour made them reluctant to report the abuse to authorities.[17] A “common thread” was that taxi drivers had been picking the children up for sex from care homes and schools.[b] The abuse included gang rape, forcing children to watch rape, dousing them with petrol and threatening to set them on fire, threatening to rape their mothers and younger sisters, and trafficking them to other towns.[20] There were pregnancies—one at age 12—terminations, miscarriages, babies raised by their mothers, and babies removed, causing further trauma.[21][22][23][24]

    The failure to address the abuse was attributed to a combination of factors revolving around race, class and gender—contemptuous and sexist attitudes toward the mostly working-class victims; lack of a child-centred focus; a desire to protect the town’s reputation; and lack of training and resources.[25][26][8]


  25. Zephir says:

    that is 1400 children, with no protest apart from Tommy Robinson who has been vilified and jailed for talking about it

    Funny howw he gets jailed so often . I understand Katie Price is on her 7 th major motoring offence drugged and drunk again, and all are rallying around her despite the fact that she could have killed anyone in her range rover


      • Zephir says:

        Katie Price’s driving history

        Katie Price escaped a speeding charge after police failed to arrest her within 12 weeks of allegedly clocking 70mph in a 40mph zone in her Range Rover on October 3.

        After talking on the mobile phone while driving on April 18, Price landed three penalty points.

        Price failed to provide the identity of the driver after her car was allegedly caught speeding in a 30mph zone, but she was let off on a legal technicality.

        She later clocked 99mph and was handed four points on her licence.

        Her lawyers argued she was only speeding to get away from paparazzi, but police said there were no other speeding vehicles around.

        Price was convicted for failing to be in proper control of her horsebox after veering into another lane in February and was given three points on her licence, bringing her total to 10.

        The former Loose Women panellist was then in December banned from driving for six months after doing 83mph in a 70mph zone in her home county of West Sussex.

        Two years later, Katie was disqualified for 12 months for failing to respond to two speeding tickets in September.

        Katie landed a six-month ban in February 2018 for speeding after totting up 12 penalty points.

        She is understood to have been caught doing 60mph on the 50mph A24 in West Sussex.

        In July, photos emerged of her driving while still banned.

        She insisted she thought her ban was over and handed herself in to police.

        A month later, she crashed her Range Rover while allegedly on her mobile phone.

        Then in October she spent 13 hours in police custody after being arrested on suspicion of drink driving.

        The former glamour model was breath-tested after her pink Range Rover crashed into a VW Golf and a hedge on a gated estate at 2am.

        She had been out celebrating her ex-boyfriend Kris Boyson’s birthday before the alleged crash that saw her £75,000 car damaged and debris littered across the road.

        After her arrest, Price spent the night in a cell at Plumstead police station, South East London, before she was released under investigation via a rear exit around 3.30pm.

        In 2019, she was given a three-month ban for driving while disqualified in January of that year.

        And then in October, Price was banned from driving for 18 months for failing to inform police who was behind the wheel of her pink Range Rover during a crash in Bexley, south east London.

        On September 28, Price was rushed to hospital after a dramatic “drug and drink-drive” crash that could leave her facing jail, The Sun revealed.

        The star, who is understood to be banned from driving, may now face jail time.

        She is already thought to be serving a driving ban and was not due to get her licence back until October 13, 2021.

        Her family shared a message saying their “worst fears nearly came true” in her alleged “drink-drive” crash.

        On September 29, Price pleaded guilty to drink driving and driving while disqualified after dramatically rolling her BMW


  26. Zephir says:

    But, everyone is “rallying around” we hear, for the poor girl who drives around pissed and drugged up at 90 mh in a range rover whilst banned from driving, just imagine if that was tommy robinson for example….


  27. StewGreen says:

    I see a Lincoln newspaper has a gotcha
    “Lincoln MP deletes FASCIST group retweet after intense backlash”

    OK that is almost too wow to be true
    #1 Yes for 20 years there has been an org The New British Union (of Fascists) apparently run by some weird Scots guy Gary Raikes
    #2 the account @NBUwestMids does have a logo very similar
    So anyone taking it at face value would say NBU New British Union
    However one says Gary Raikes says he didn’t do the account

    #3 A strange thing is the account was created in April 2021 yet only started tweeting 10 DAYS ago
    It’s like a guy has created a whole series of NBU accounts as burners, moving on when they get banned etc.

    So did the MP really interact with the account
    or did he somehow see someone tweet a friendly thing and retweet it ?
    I don’t know what was in his mind
    but it’s entirely possible the account name/logo was changed, AFTER he retweeted it.
    The whole thing could be an antifa double bluff .


    All the normal antifa crew have jumped in to capitalise on it.


    • StewGreen says:

      The Sep27 tweet said “When a franchised fuel station really has to tell you to turn off your TV”

      and then had this image

      that’s a Facebook post
      but the Garage is 200 miles from Lincoln
      remote near Barrow


  28. taffman says:

    “Fishing rights row: French anger as UK rejects most permits”
    IMHO Al Beeb is more angry than the French fishermen .
    Al Beeb and the French need to get used to the fact that we are no longer in The EU and we aint going back in.


    • JimS says:

      Pity the poor Beeboid when she has to rub shoulders with les voisins at her retreat at le weekend.

      There is no way that she would live amongst Brexit Britons.


  29. vlad says:

    It’s blatantly obvious to everyone except the BBC that Biden, who couldn’t organise a piss-up in a brewery, is not really in charge.

    So who is? There is much speculation that Obama is pulling the strings.

    In what may be a Freudian slip, Pelosi just added a little more credibility to that theory.


    • tomo says:

      DNC nabobs have been notably absent from the news streams, unlike the runup to 2016… security has been tightened …

      In practical terms it’s split between The Cabinet – a collection of mostly dull time serving gong collectors and no-mark quangocrats and POTUS’s office – which is where it gets interesting. Susan Rice’s name keeps popping up 22nd Director of the Domestic Policy Council seems like a bit of a comedown for the lady – but maybe a convenient fig-leaf to explain her presence at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue. Then there’s Ron Klain likely riding herd on Joe.

      The idea that Joe’s *not* running things is pretty widespread – the people who *are* running things must be scheming like fury about what to do when Joe finally has a full on meltdown in public. They picked Harris as a malleable VP (like Obama team got Joe) – but her poll ratings are near indistinguishable from the scale line at the bottom of the X-axis.

      Somebody’s going to spill the beans on what’s going on ?

      I notice that no Ambassador to The Court of St. James (London) has been appointed – that’s the big foreign service prize for donors / chums etc. – that seems a bit odd.


    • Scroblene says:

      Nice one, Vlad!

      What also concerns me though, is not that Barry O is still ‘pulling strings’, but there will be many more even nastier, unseen people doing the evil stuff behind him.

      We always laugh about Princess Nut Nut getting in on the act over here, and it’s great fun, because it’s minor, red-top-rag gossip, and pretty worthless, but we also have some nasty people ‘pulling strings’ over here, because they’re from the same stable as the invisible Yanks.

      I have a mate in Spain, who is obsessed with a ‘dark world order’, and normally, his stuff goes ‘whoosh’ over my grey head, but it’s not difficult to see that such conspiracies have a basis somewhere, and our despised national broadcaster is too feeble, woke, and awash with tax-payers’ money to even investigate for their paying public.

      So we all go elsewhere for news and information!


      • Zephir says:

        the msm treatment of Donald Trump vs the msm treatment of Biden with sex criminal drug taking son and sex criminal Clinton hidden in plain sight


  30. taffman says:

    “Petrol supply: Reserve fuel tankers on the road to help boost deliveries”
    Someone in the government needs to give the DVLA a good klick up the jacksy to get the vehicle licences out faster.


  31. StewGreen says:

    @Deborah above made the ridiculous suggestion above that Hull local BBC does Green propaganda

    Oh actually both ITV & BBC Local news continues to have lots of Green activist PR here
    Rathlin oil field PP application
    They made out the decision would come on Monday so had a big build up last week
    but that was just the pleading meeting
    They never actually reported what happened there

    – Today ITV news was live from the site where old ladies were blocking the road
    The presenter said the actual decision will be “on Thursday night”

    ITV preceded the item with another item
    massive PR job for the army’s new solar farm
    Daft cos it’s built over perfectly good land
    so we’ll be cutting down trees abroad to clear land to replace the food


    BBC first preceded the anti-oil item
    like this
    Solar warmup – saying “a lot of new solar farms will be coming to Lincolnshire
    – Long Army solar farm item

    Then the BBC anti-oil field item had Yorkshire Greta called Charlotte


    BBC army solar farm item
    The reporter said ‘a saving £0.25m here every year”, smile smile
    FFS .. and costing taxpayers more

    Jeremy Quinn MP was on doing the PR

    Then next item a Dutch lorry driver/owner driving in Dutch produce to the UK
    .. oh it’s an item claiming the UK producers can’t harvest/transport the food we have.
    Oh its’ Jeremy Quinn speaking again
    This is strange cos normally the prog doesn’t air Conservative MPs


  32. Zephir says:

    Poor Jo Cox..


    PC Blakelock had been assigned, on the night of his death, to Serial 502, a unit of 11 constables and one sergeant, dispatched to protect firefighters who were themselves under attack. When the rioters forced the officers back, Blakelock stumbled and fell. Surrounded by a mob of around 50 people, he received over 40 injuries inflicted by machetes or similar weapons, and was found with a six-inch-long knife in his neck, buried up to the hilt.


  33. Zephir says:

    Twenty-nine years after his shocking murder, the widow of PC Blakelock sat head bowed in court as jurors were told how a rampaging mob tried to chop his head off.

    The defenceless policeman was set upon by merciless rioters chanting “kill the pig” on the Broadwater Farm estate in Tottenham in October 1985, the Old Bailey heard.

    He was hacked more than 40 times and a knife was left embedded in his neck, the jury was told.
    Trial: the family of PC Keith Blakelock, his sons (l-r) Lee, Kevin and Mark Blakelock stand with their mother Elizabeth Johnson (Picture: Getty)
    Trial: the family of PC Keith Blakelock, his sons (l-r) Lee, Kevin and Mark Blakelock stand with their mother Elizabeth Johnson (Picture: Getty) / Getty

    His colleague, PC Richard Coombes, was miraculously able to survive the onslaught from the mob armed with an assortment of weapons.

    Nearly 30 years later Nicky Jacobs, who is now 44 and was just 16 at the time, has pleaded not guilty to murder.

    Sitting just feet away from the dock as the trial opened were the victim’s widow, Elizabeth Johnson and three sons, Lee, Mark and Kevin.

    Prosecutor Richard Whittam QC said Jacobs had been armed with a knife and was part of the joint attack on PC Blakelock.

    But other members of the riot mob will be giving evidence against him.

    Said Mr Whittam: “There is no dispute that PC Blakelock was murdered. There is no dispute that Nicky Jacobs was involved in the public disorder that night, as were some of the witnesses.
    Accused: court sketch shows Nicholas Jacobs (left) in the dock at the OId Bailey (Picture: PA)
    Accused: court sketch shows Nicholas Jacobs (left) in the dock at the OId Bailey (Picture: PA)

    “That is not what he is on trial for. Neither is any witness on trial for that, or anything else. Jacobs is on trial for the murder and the allegation is that he had a bladed weapon and he used it in the attack.”

    The court heard that the riot – worse than the 2011 Summer disorder – was sparked when police searched the home of a suspect whose mother, Cynthia Jarrett, died of a heart attack.

    With community tensions already high, the anger of Mrs Jarrett’s family and friends boiled over.

    “These were, to some extent, far more serious riots than we have seen in recent times,” said Mr Whittam.

    “The riots of 2011 appeared for most of the time to have a materialistic object and there was a considerable amount of looting.

    “The Tottenham riots of 1985 had a more sinister edge. At least some of the rioters appeared to have as their target the death of a police officer.”
    Campaign: Nicolas Jacobs’ supporters outside court (Picture: Getty)
    Campaign: Nicolas Jacobs’ supporters outside court (Picture: Getty) / Getty

    PC Blakelock was among a group of 11 officers sent to the Broadwater estate to protect firefighters tackling blazes.

    They had been sent without cover because resources were stretched and, heavily outnumbered, were forced to retreat, the court heard.

    “AS the ran for safety PC Blakelock and PC Coombes went to ground and were set upon to shouts of ‘kill the pig’ and things like that,” the QC went on.

    “PC Coombes was very fortunate to survive. PC Blakelock did not. The attack on him was without mercy.

    “In a ferocious attack his helmet came off. He was beaten and stabbed to death before his colleagues were able to force his attackers away.

    “He suffered something in excess of 40 stab-type injuries and there appears to have been an attempt made to decapitate him.”

    Jacobs, of Hackney, has pleaded not guilty to murder.


    • G says:

      Salutary fact, you cannot debate anything with a person with no brain.


    • Thatcherrevolutionary says:


      Yet to a BBC/SKY/ITV scumbag this ranks higher on their morality scale than laughing at a man in a dress.


  34. JohnC says:

    My phone news-feed informed me an ‘islamic extremist preparing for acts for terrorism’ has been arrested at Heathrow. This is very pertinent news given whats going on with Afghanistan and the boats.

    However the BBC appear not to think so and haven’t reported it.

    While checking the front page for the above article, I also notice that – as predicted – the story of Sabina Nessa has been dropped completely now we know an Albanian immigrant did it and Sarah Everard is back at the top – hung by the BBC onto her coat-tails to salvage some of the white-man hate they created. Searching google I see all the vigils and protests stopped abruptly a few days ago too.

    What a complete hypocritical, farcical place the ‘woke’ world is.


  35. Zephir says:

    Just one question, does anyone on here wander around with a knife in their posession ? or even consider it ?

    Racism is treating someone different because of their race, well lets forget about race and look at posession of knives and machetes, funny that, same suspects who complain about racism


    • Scroblene says:

      A few years ago, Zephir, Senora O’Blene and I were on our way across the English Channel for a holiday. We were pulled over for a random inspection by customs, and happily stood by while the Dover Ferry Sea Plod poked around in the boot.

      Now, when in a deserted cottage, I like a relaxed ‘whittling’ any old bits of attractive wood, so I’d taken a gardening knife along with me for said purpose. Plod found it, and grilled me a bit, but sighed, and let me keep it, as long as it stayed in the boot. He then found a Stanley knife, which I take to mend most French electrical appliances, as they never work. Again, he asked ‘Is this a tool of your trade, Sir’? I explained why it was there, and another longer sigh emanated from the pursed lips…

      His final question was ‘Do you actually have any other sharp instruments, Sir’?

      I then remembered the Swiss Army penknife lurking in the side pocket, (the scissors are fabulous, as is the bottle opener)…

      He was not amused…

      Several sighs later, we managed to escape, tools intact, but I reckon nowadays, I’d have been banged up in Dover Nick, and Senora O’Blene would have had to bail me out with various offers, (but not that one)…


      • Zephir says:

        But, I strongly suspect you were not on the ferry with your trousers hanging halfway down your arse, forgetting your consonants whilst conversing and hiding your face in a hoodie. I may be wrong but….Senora O’Blene may correct me


        • Scroblene says:

          Ha ha ha!

          We were in her little car, Z, so I had to be on my best behaviour…

          Those were the days when you could get White 1664 too, so it was probably better going out, than coming back half-plastered…


      • Peter Grimes says:

        We used to have a second home in France and my boss used to spend all summer holiday there with our boys. I’d often drive down or take the St Malo ferry overnight in a second car to the one she used there. Occasionally we would return to the UK in separate cars at the same time, why I cannot recall, and she would have the boys and luggage and I’d be alone in an empty car. I would almost invariably be stopped and questioned and the car searched. When eventually released I would say, sarcastically, that my wife had taken the stash through earlier. Similarly when I used to travel regularly by car to the continent for business (mileage purposes really).



        • Scroblene says:

          Ha ha ha again, PG!

          Some years ago, the regularity of people coming in from everywhere in the UK, to stay a couple of nights in Dover, and hop over to the Belgian border for fags etc., was mind-boggling!

          Would have been fun had they been stopped on the M4, but nowadays plod wouldn’t take any notice as they’d be un-sticking the priccz from the tarmac…


  36. Zephir says:

    Freedom of Information Request Reference No:
    I note you seek access to the following information: Please supply the data regarding the ethnicities of the perpetrators and victims of
    knife crime in London over the last calendar years
    I have today decided to disclose the located information to you in full.
    Please find attached information pursuant to your request above. However, please note information is no longer available prior to 2008 due to
    changing systems. I would like to thank you for your interest in the MPS.People Proceeded against (PPA) for Knife Crimes broken down by Ethnicity for Calendar years starting April 2008‐2018 (up to 30/11/2018)

    White European 9744

    Afro-Caribbean 14527

    percentage demography 2011

    Black/African/Caribbean/Black British 13.2 %

    White 86 %


    • Zephir says:

      I’ll do the maths for you 13 % of our population, afro carribbean, are resposible for 59.85 % of knife crime in the UK according the the police


      • JohnC says:

        What’s relevant to me here is this:

        If you see a random Afro-Carribean person in the street, he is almost 10 times more likely to be involved in knife crime than a random white person. If I have the choice of who to sit next to on a train, I will choose the white person. Not because the other is black but because statistically he is an order of magnitude more likely to be involved in things like knife crime.

        These figures are based on actual statistics. So if your job is to stop knife crime with stop-and-search, you should search 10 black people for every white person.

        In London 2020, 9 black people were searched for every 1 white person. So stop and search is in fact slightly anti-white racist. Anyone complaining about that ?.

        But that’s just life. Import barbaric 3rd world mentalities, they clump together and build 3rd world communities to live in. We are paying the price for allowing them to do it.

        But what really, really makes my blood boil are the hypocrites like maxi and Lammy who scream ‘racists’ at anyone who points it out – when in fact THEY are the racists for trying to cover it up.

        I imagine I am already in maxi’s database to selectively quote me (without context like he did for Stew the other day) for saying I would choose to sit next to a white person. Well maxi, I have only one thing to say to that: go f*ck yourself.


        • Zephir says:

          Sick to my back teeth of hearing that word racist from those who are either :


          Incompetents at their jobs

          losing an argument

          I have met a lot of the jobs ones they have jobs for life in local government and will never be disciplined ever by their fat Corbynist wimmin bosses no matter how incompetent or lying, or thieving or skiving, I have seen all this


          • taffman says:

            In my debates about Brexit , I have often been called ‘Racist’, especially by ‘remainders’ that have no defence for their case to stay part of the EU.


            • JohnC says:

              Plenty of those : student types who are too thick to realise they are thick. Like the one who was so upset by Brexit she joined a protest – and when asked on TV what the best thing the EU gave us was said ‘The NHS’.

              My own favourite is how most of them think criticism of anything about Islam is racist. Since when was a religion a race !.


        • Fedup2 says:

          The Lammy argument would be that whitee plod pick on coloured folk more that whitee – hence the bigger number . However plod is no longer a ‘uniform ‘ colour so that argument becomes shaky .

          Also – the stats don’t show the sex or age of those prosecuted – but I get they are mainly under 30 and 95% male …. But let’s not muddy the waters – as vermin such as Lammy would …


    • Fedup2 says:

      Thank you for doing the maths . But come on – numbers are racist – you are racist – i am racist … these numbers don’t really mean much now do they ?

      But seriously – whenever one of the race industry comes onto the BBC to demand the end of stop and search on their little Leroy –
      Why doesn’t the BBC presenter just read those statistics out and shut them down ? We know the answer to that – it’s because it is ‘unapproved ‘.

      Actually – as I write – I’m surprised the figures were released . There must have been meeting after meeting to find a reason not to disclose – bit like the paki rape gang report …

      Thanks for the data .


  37. Zephir says:

    Is woke having a knife in your pocket now ?


  38. taffman says:

    Al Beeb……….
    “Covid: What will happen when furlough ends?”

    People will have to get up off their fat @rses and work for their money.


    • JohnC says:

      McDonalds will be open as usual again.


      • Zephir says:

        and for a special Sunday lunch with the visiting relatves KFC


        • Scroblene says:

          We live about fifteen miles from the Kent coast, and often wonder what we would have done during WW2 for food, but I still reckon I’d have bicycled down and caught fish for the family.

          Much easier popping into Rye and buying it direct from the fabulous guys and gals who actually work for the UK!

          I wish the BBC would do more to promote our island skills, and not fart about with foreigners’ demands, odd ‘religions’ et., and actually get behind the British way of life.

          They never seem to these days.


          • Zephir says:

            The “British way of Life” they will confront you and say “woss Bri ish then bruv”

            My response would be a maypole up their backside and say to their mates dance around that bruvs


            • MarkyMark says:

              Q.1) Are all cultures equal? YES|NO

              Q.2) Should Charles James Napier have let India’s Suttee to continue – widows jump onto fires when their husbands die to kill themselves? YES|NO

              Q.3) Do you still believe all cultures equal? YES|NO

              Q.4) If Charles James Napier had NOT stopped India’s Suttee and it continued in 2018, would you allow Indians moving to Britain to still practice Suttee as part of their culture in 2018?

              Q.3) Do you still believe all cultures equal? YES|NO

              “Be it so. This burning of widows (India/suttee) is your custom; prepare the funeral pile. But my nation has also a custom. When men burn women alive we hang them, and confiscate all their property. My carpenters shall therefore erect gibbets on which to hang all concerned when the widow is consumed. Let us all act according to national customs.”
              – Charles James Napier

              (c) CANE Project 2018 – Cultures Are Not Equal Project


            • Scroblene says:

              Luckily, I don’t have any relations who ‘work’ at the BBC, although there’s always a fear that a GC might one day. I probably won’t be around…

              In fact a daught was keen to become a technician/producer back then, but she’s now making shed-loads more in a proper private organisation, by doing much more than fiddle and fa*t around with their over-priced kit (bought by pensioners of course).


              • Zephir says:

                It is so good to hear how you and your family are doing so well
                frequently, quite frequently, well done sir


  39. AsISeeIt says:

    One doesn’t really like to say I told you so… but I’m going to: ‘Everard’s killer used Covid law to entrap her‘ (Telegraph) – what they mean is the Lockdown law, to be precise.

    BBC: ‘The 33-year-old marketing executive was abducted by Met Police officer Wayne Couzens as he falsely arrested her for breaching Covid guidelines… Two witnesses saw him handcuff her but believed he was acting legitimately as a police officer

    Count this as a murder that may well not have happened had it not been for the restrictions to our freedoms imposed on the healthy by a government in thrawl to a small cabal of public health officials. A government, by the way, whose main fear was that our much vaunted NHS simply wouldn’t cope when presented with some real public health challenge.

    I contend that the detail of Sarah Everard’s abduction by a policeman under the pretence of applying his gimcrack lockdown powers was deliberately and cynically withheld from the public at a time that these details were already known to authorities.

    I’m disgusted, but not surprised, considering the depth of media manipulation in respect of the China Flu.

    The BBC’s online take on this morning’s press headlines is laughably disingenuous: ‘Newspaper headlines: ‘Sarah didn’t stand a chance’ and ‘women lose trust’ – Women! How about the BBC admit the entire population lose trust in both police and media?

    The Sun says it this way: ‘Haunting CCTV footage emerged yesterday showing the moment killer cop Wayne Couzens tricked Sarah Everard into his car – proving she never stood a chance‘ – oh, she would have stood a chance alright – had it not been for Lockdown regulations and the public fear of them.

    I’m oddly, and likely inappropriately, reminded of that old Not The Nine O’Clock News sketch where Griff Rhys Jones plays the skinheaded Constable Savage called into the office of his Inspector, Rowan Atkinson, to be reprimanded for the trumped up charges he has been making. Loitering with intent to use a pedestrian crossing. Looking at me in a funny way. Coughing without due care and attention. Walking on the cracks in the pavement. Walking in a loud shirt in a built-up area during the hours of darkness.

    We are told in the space of one month PC Savage has brought 117 ridculous, trumped up and ludicrous charges… against the same man. Of course the pay off to this skit was that the victim was a Mr Winston Codogo and Savage was racist.

    But take another look at some of those daft charges and notice the sort of things that could be considered a joke in the early 1980s became reality in 2020.


    • Scroblene says:

      And the last line mentions Savage getting a transfer to the SPD (?)…

      That was then they had some proper cops taking on the thugs, not prancing around in rainbow colours.


      • Rob in Cheshire says:

        SPG, the Special Patrol Group.


      • Sick of it all says:

        I am reminded of the anti-Vietnam protests in London where some of the Met’s finest used pieces of torn up fencing to batter hippies, in full view of attendant journalists.


  40. Guest Who says:

    The BBC has been somewhere to get a quote.


    • Guest Who says:

      Then of course, the BBC Moaning Emole, where Naff has heard ‘calls for’.


      By Nafeesa Shan

      Furlough scheme ends amid calls for further support

      Story detail

      It was introduced during the first lockdown, it helped pay 11.6 million wages after coronavirus restrictions meant large parts of the economy closed but now, after 18 months, the UK’s furlough scheme is ending. Furlough – or the Coronavirus Job Retention Scheme as it’s officially known – was brought in by the government to pay 80% of wages, with a monthly limit of £2,500. That dropped to 60% with employers making up the rest as it started winding down for its closing date today. Chancellor Rishi Sunak says he’s “immensely proud” of the multibillion-pound scheme – which is still supporting 1.6 million workers, according to latest figures. It’s been widely praised for protecting millions of jobs but some firms say they still need support because business hasn’t returned to normal.

      One business, which helps pets travel overseas, faces the prospect of making redundancies. Animal Aircare hasn’t laid off any staff but director Mark Andrew says: “Furlough ending means there’s a real question mark for our business. It seems the airline industry is not buoyant enough yet.” Older workers or those in the travel sector, still on the scheme are particularly at risk of unemployment, according to think-tank Resolution Foundation, and like other forecasters, including the Bank of England, it predicts there will be a small rise in unemployment. The Federation of Small Businesses says employers and workers alike will have to cope with the end of the furlough scheme and it “will be tough for many to navigate”. However, the government says there’s support through its Plan for Jobs scheme.

      Maybe Pen Farthing can use some of Sopes’ frequent flier miles?


      • Guest Who says:

        Also, was there any doubt who Sam would be?


        James Bond and MI6: Is there fact in fiction?

        Finally. After pandemic-induced delays and a sudden change of director, the latest long-awaited Bond movie is hitting the screens. No Time to Die is the 25th Bond movie and Daniel Craig’s final outing as James Bond. So does the Bond fantasy bear any relation at all to life in the real MI6, Britain’s external spy agency, more properly known as the Secret Intelligence Service? And perhaps more importantly, how relevant can a spy agency be in this digital age?

        “I think the biggest way it differs,” says Sam (not her real name), “is that we’re much more collaborative than the people in Bond. Very rarely, if ever, would you go out by yourself, unsupported. It’s all about teams… you’ve always got a security team around you.” Sam is a career MI6 case officer with a background in counter terrorism, one of several serving intelligence officers I requested to meet and interview ahead of the latest Bond release. Alright, so if they are not Bond, what exactly do real-life MI6 officers do, whether based in their Thameside headquarters or out “in the field” overseas?



  41. Fedup2 says:

    The BBC wants to find an answer to ‘male violence ‘

    It makes the following assumptions –

    Males are of one type
    Male violent crime is of one type
    Women are angels
    Women do not commit crime

    Making those assumptions become approved thought – so the BBC rolls on someone ( female ) ‘ against male violence ‘.

    Then a serious issue becomes a woke one and we know there will be no real improvement – although the home office will pop up a new Criminal Justice Act which will achieve little but have a bit to reduce freedom even more – like some ridiculous mysogeny ‘crime ‘. ….


    • Guest Who says:

      Vile leading the charge to tar all grunts with the brush of his common purpose incompetence accelerated promotion hires.

      Some of the best coppers I encounter are young, male and at the sharp end daily.

      Some of the worst are those are diverse, at the top and inexcusably seldom held to account by overpaid media luvvies.

      Currently every Twitter female of armpit hair braiding is going men… even more mental than usual.


  42. Guest Who says:

    Meanwhile BBC Cherry Pick Finds Two Women

    Two women explain why they’ve decided not to have children.

    50% of women will not have had a child by the time they reach 30, with 20% not having children at all.


  43. Fedup2 says:

    Toady again
    Our Justin flattened by a chap who is chief jobby to the treasury – one of those roles which takes an MP with a brain – very rare …
    …….Justin wanted so much to blame Brexit for ‘skills shortages ‘ such as HGV drivers – but got nowhere and just sounded like the spoilt public school boy he is .

    The BBC will never accept unapproved democratic decisions . I think they miss the trips to the Reich .


  44. Zephir says:

    Well that is at least two less potential screaming screeching kids in the supermarket and pubs and coffee shops and gardens whilst their parents ignore the public noise

    That and yapping screeching dogs…the English disease

    After a particularly noisy train journey home I remember well going onto mumsnet because they seemed concerned about children and mentioning this and the fact it rarely happens in France or elsewhere and the vitriol and abuse I received was amazing and within 30 minutes I was banned

    but the witch hunting harridans continue to hurl abuse at males even fire engines trying to drive past the school run trafffic jams


  45. tomo says:

    Grant Shapps announces all EV chargers will now be fitted with timers to stop them working at peak times and a random 30 minute turn on delay to stop them all turning on at once.

    Yes, the Daily Mail … but it’s rather unlikely that Cardinal Harrabin’s Green minions will be reporting on this eh?

    Given this “logic” – tea breaks are going to get interesting when the timers are added to kettles?

    Energy wardens seem a possibility?

    A diesel generator looks to be the new “must have” EV accessory?


  46. Zephir says:

    If you ever feel lonely or unappreciated, log onto mumsnet and complain about kids that just screech at every opportunity, you will soon find so many that want a dialogue, within minutes, and they will find the time to abuse you whatever their kid is doing, but not many that think they should control a child


    • Fedup2 says:

      Thank you for the suggestion but I am neither a mum nor do I have a net …. The idea of engaging with sharp elbowed ‘mothers ‘ fills me with dread .


  47. taffman says:

    Three cheers and hats off ! Once again to the British Armed Forces for rescuing Britain and the government from crisis to crisis. Something you will not hear from Al Beeb . IMHO they hate our forces and Great Britain.


    • Fedup2 says:

      I think nut nut will deploy the army – I think politicians see it as a sort of ‘red line ‘ of failure . They use the promise of the army to try to calm the current irrationality – but ‘questions must be asked ‘ about how the panic started – who was responsible – and why it wasn’t contained – especially with regard to the media ….
      ……perhaps this will be raised at the nut nut red Tory conference next week ….


  48. Guest Who says:

    Britain now.

    The media:

    Not the media:

    Birmingham Chamber: West Midlands business confidence strong as new challenges loom
    Business confidence in the West Midlands is at its highest point for more than three years after rising 19 points during September


  49. MarkyMark says:

    An article on Climate – but not one mention of China and it’s 3 child policy.


    ‘Green growth’ doesn’t exist – less of everything is the only way to avert catastrophe
    George Monbiot

    We have no hope of emerging from this full-spectrum crisis unless we dramatically reduce economic activity. Wealth must be distributed – a constrained world cannot afford the rich – but it must also be reduced. Sustaining our life-support systems means doing less of almost everything. But this notion – that should be central to a new, environmental ethics – is secular blasphemy.


    • G says:

      Wake me up when the UK has finally reached Third World status. NHS first to achieve that goal. Then we can all thank Bottler and his predecessors for their unrelenting dedication to the cause.


    • JimS says:

      OK, let’s start by having Bill Gates, Guardian ‘journalists’ and BBC ‘talent’ on £30k p.a. max and see how that goes first.


  50. MarkyMark says:

    Clap longer not harder?

    Equality, Diversity and Inclusion Manager (Patient Service)
    The Newcastle upon Tyne Hospitals NHS Foundation Trust
    Job Reference: 317-2021-32-01-DR
    Employer:The Newcastle upon Tyne Hospitals NHS Foundation TrustDepartment:317 Patient Relations – FHLocation:317 01 Freeman HospitalSalary:£38,890 – £44,503 per annum