Midweek Thread 20 October 2021

Politicians have entreated each other to be ‘kind’ in the aftermath of the murder of one of their own. They seem to think that has something to do with Islamic terrorism . Judging by their past behaviour and that of BBC journalists we can guess how much will change ..

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593 Responses to Midweek Thread 20 October 2021

  1. Fedup2 says:

    Ah but it’s a trend … so don’t be surprised if winters are cold and summers are hot ….. and don’t forget it’s also about extremes … which people notice now but didn’t before ….

    I wonder how people are going to react with rising carbon taxes … rising interest rates … rising food prices …. Rising inflation rates …


    • Up2snuff says:

      But Fed, during Brazil’s summer – and it gets really hot in Fortaleza – Covid infections soared. How so?

      And on inflation rates, you – too just like the BBC – are looking but not looking.

      Down from 3.2% to 3.1%.


      • Fedup2 says:

        Up2 – if it’s about 3% month on month it’s 3%…. 1% above the naughty step ….


  2. FrankZ says:

    Haven’t seen this mentioned on here yet, although might have missed it.

    If anyone has been wondering why there have been no new videos from Simon Webb for a few days, he says:-

    “I have been suspended for a week by YouTube for spreading ‘medical misinformation'”


    • Old Goat says:

      I suspected he’d been got at, again. They don’t like purveyors of truth and facts on that platform.

      It doesn’t seem to faze him, though – he’ll be back, but I think he’d do well to consider a couple of other alternative vehicles for his stuff, which is eminently good, and popular.


      • FrankZ says:

        It’s clear that he has been got at, but you’re right, it won’t. But as usual it may make him more circumspect.

        The trouble with the other platforms is that a) they don’t have the audience numbers, b) lack of audience awareness of their existence, and there are too many of them (Rumble, Odysee, BitChute, BrandNewTube, Vimeo, plus loads of others – have probably missed some key players in my own list too), and c) there’s a suspicion that they are heavily populated by cranks (Vimeo excluded).

        Of course, the more the YouTube and other mainstream platforms impose their strictures on content and contributors, the more those contributors will go elsewhere, but the message is then dissipated.

        We’re not in a good place, as I believe young people say these days.


  3. Zephir says:

    Climate change: It was quite warm a thousand years ago, they grew grapes here, just a pity we did not have a muslim mayor around to ban chariots

    And to comment on the “brutal murder” of the Floyd criminal and comment on a Conservative politician that “passed away” after being stabbed multiple times by a muslim immigrant

    tells us all we need to know about pandering to his muslim immigrant electorate and their opinions of the country they bow and scrape to get into


  4. AsISeeIt says:

    Baby boomers, Gen X, Gen Z, now Child of Delta…
    I too would like to save the earth – but I don’t really like to talk about it

    One surveys, with more than a little dismay, the rather predictable headline presented to us by our BBC online news home page.

    Bring back rules as cases rise – NHS chiefs

    In the trenches of the First World War British soldiers, resigned to the apparent inevitabilty of the continuation of that incomprehensibly destructive, yet seemingly futile style of warfare, and their endless daily discomforts and hardships, would mischievously sing the lyric: “We’re ‘ere, because we’re ‘ere, because…” to the familiar tune of Auld Lang Syne. To be fair, no one really knows the proper lyrics to that one.

    One supposes the “higher ups know what they’re doing” might have been the sentiment – at least for a while until trust and respect began to wane over time.

    The papers can’t seem to decide what will get us first – covid or the climate.

    Taking a quick strawman poll of frontpage headlines – there’s no clear right- versus left-leaning divide, nor broadsheet versus tabloid rule, as to which flavour of project fear and we’re all doomed scenario gets top billing.

    The Mail goes with: ‘Boris’s trillion pound green gamble

    While the Express frets: ‘Booster jabs plea to keep Britain safe

    The Telegraph is a covid worrier: ‘Care home booster jab roll out falling short

    The Times is anxious about the environment: ‘Britons face higher taxes to pay for eco pledges‘ – amusingly a Times fashion feature inadvertantly offers consumers faced with soaring heating bills a simple old school solution: ‘The best coats to buy this autumn‘ – referring back to the land of Auld Lang Syne, I’m reminded of the mean Scotsman who abruptly told his wife “Turn the heating off and put yon coat on, hen, I’m going oot to the pub!

    Of course, you’ve heard them all before. Speaking of which…

    The ‘i’ newspaper goes big on the virus: ‘New “child of Delta” varient in Britain may be 10-15% more infectious, scientists believe‘ – “What did you do in the covid battle, daddy?” “I was the expert who renamed the preposterous sci-fi sounding mutant strains with the more plausible term varients – but I don’t like to talk about it

    The messily laid-out, headache inducing, pick and mix jumble of a frontpage of the Guardian attempts to juggle the two fear factors. Premier billing is awarded to the climate: ‘UK’s net zero plans fall short on ambition and funds, say experts‘ – just a weird thought here – couldn’t Boris, instead of having invited COP26 over here, have volunteered us to host some other big international jamboree on the subject of… I don’t know… the future of knitting, crochet and associated handicrafts? That might not have caused quite such a hit to our tax and energy bills?

    Sorry Dom. This and other blue sky thinking from your in-house weirdo and misfit with odd skills – supplied hereabouts daily, gratis.

    The Guardian, eager to cover all bases on their cover finds space for their second string headline: ‘NHS chiefs urge “plan B plus” amid covid surge‘ – I’m intrigued by the term NHS chiefs – is it too trite to quote that old proverb: Too many chiefs and not enough Indians?

    Which titles haven’t we seen yet?

    One begins to shy away from the Mirror. The Mirror is like one of those people you feel wary about asking the simple introductory rhetorical question – how are you? – for fear they’ll tell you: ‘Crisis over top-up jabs. Our country needs a booster. Concern at rising Covid infections and new varient fear as injections stall‘ – phew – I wish I hadn’t asked.

    The Sun is no better. Oddly, since space science got the Royal seal of disapproval last week, today we get a: ‘New covid campaign. Booster jabs: time for lift-off!

    The formerly cheerful tabloid, once the perky companion of many a white van man, is chiding in tone: ‘As 1.5m miss vax..don’t blow it Britain‘ – I’m sorely tempted to reply in kind to the title that way back in 1982 advised our enemies to: ‘Stick it up yer Junta


    • Zephir says:

      Maybe best to avoid the tabloids for your heath and well being ?
      An occasional perusal of the mail online reveals news the bbc does its best to hide from the country

      but if you feel qualified to summarise all media in the UK I do wander how breakfast in your home is managed without smashing a boiled egg into oblivion


      • AsISeeIt says:

        Frankly, the one lesson my strictly amateur perusals have taught me is that our curate’s egg of a media wakes up singing largely from the same limited common hymn sheet.

        These days our breakfast diet tends to be steered toward the flakes, nuts and fruits.


  5. Guest Who says:

    Full memory outage of color, surely?

    [tosses fringe]


    • Dover Sentry says:

      ….more likely she was self-administered with ten Bacardi and cokes.


    • Eddy Booth says:

      According to the website people are being spiked with needles ….not jabbed.


      • StewGreen says:

        \\ Nottinghamshire Police confirmed it was looking into reports of people being “spiked physically” //
        ie the normal way of drugging a girl is by spiking her drink
        but now some abusers I using direct jabbing instead.


  6. Guest Who says:

    Lewis liked this. She said something bbc approved.


    • vlad says:

      Another disgusting piece by the EU-loving BBC who find a shill to interview.

      The truth is the Polish government are bravely fighting the EUSSR by putting their laws above the EU’s – who in retaliation are shamelessly threatening and blackmailing Poland.

      The brave Poles spent last century resisting Hitler and then Stalin, they’re in no hurry to be taken over by another dictatorship.



  7. digg says:

    The BBC in their happy place because a bunch of ex-London luvvies have bought second homes in Watchet in Somerset and opened one of those usual boring arty-coffee thingies on the quay, thus displacing lots of jobs and houses for locals.


    However, not so happy about the fact that 75% of Newsbeat staff have refused to relocate to Digbeth in Birmingham because they don’t want to be frozen out of the London housing market.


    That sums up the BBC and it’s appalling snotty staff perfectly.


    • Garry Lavin says:

      Oh dear. I’ve played cricket in Watchet…nice place….nice people. I sympathise with the locals.
      I can’t afford to move back to my home area on the Pennines …it’s too expensive due to BBC and media types commuting to Manchester and Leeds.


  8. Zephir says:

    bbc employees are tax cheats that demand the government pay (tax payers money) for everything


  9. Zephir says:

    BBC to pay out millions to settle historic tax avoidance claims


    The BBC has set aside up to £12m to pay off the past tax liabilities of BBC presenters being pursued by HMRC for tax avoidance using personal service companies, the latest BBC annual report has revealed.

    However, the National Audit Office (NAO) has questioned whether the payments are a legitimate use of BBC funds, and has issued a qualified opinion of the BBC accounts as a result.

    The NAO highlights the difficulties that the BBC and other organisations have got into when seeking to avoid tax, and the thorny issue of who pays when tax avoidance schemes go wrong.


    • markh says:

      If the BBC is paying the tax liabilities of its presenters that is either taxable income or a benefit in kind, meaning more tax payable by those presenters. Will the BBC pay that as well or will it have disappeared up its own fundament by then?


  10. Zephir says:

    THESE are the very same journalists demanding more government spending

    there is no government money it comes from tax, the very same tax bbc do their level best to avoid


  11. vlad says:

    We’ve all seen the Insulate Britain demonstrators (terrorists?) get dragged off the road only to scuttle back like rats.
    Well this fed-up motorist has the solution: he ties up the eco-nutter with his own banner!
    Must be the very definition of ‘hoist by his own petard’.
    A sort of citizen’s arrest. Give that man a medal!


    • Fedup2 says:

      Must be great to feel like a ‘climate martyre ‘ mustn’t it ?
      Can and brag to the rest of the commune about the sacrifice …


      • vlad says:

        You feel some of the deranged tw*ts (that’s not twits) actually want a car to run them over.
        This angry mum almost obliges.
        Guess whose side the Guardian are on.


    • pugnazious says:

      All drivers should carry some handcuffs…just in case.


      • Mrs Kitty says:

        Or superglue, beat them at their own game and do their hands together around the fence post.


      • vlad says:

        Maybe in future windscreen washer jets could be designed to rotate forward at the flick of a switch.


    • Mrs Kitty says:

      The one YT vid I truly enjoyed was the Canning Town Tube one where the commuters dragged them off before plod could get to them to offer them tea and sympathy. Must look at it again.


  12. pugnazious says:

    ‘Today’ doing a thorough and rigorous investigation into the costs of the green regime…or were they?

    Asking questions but…Kwasi Kwarteng claimed that nobody would be out of pocket as business would pay….Amol Rajan…’OK…good…so let’s move on’.

    Then three pro-climate change people all banging the drum for more ‘investment’ and ‘life improving’ behaviour change to save the planet…..all competing to send us back to the dark ages….hair shirts, sandals and vegetables….and it’s a good job the planet is warming as it looks like we won’t be able to afford, or be allowed to have, the practical and affordable means of heating our homes.

    If only we had a national broadcaster that asked real questions and genuinely held power to account instead of being the mouthpiece for government.


    • Garry Lavin says:

      What is this magical…..’business’? Is that the people who work and innovate to create profits and wealth?


  13. Emmanuel Goldstein says:

    I’ve heard a few times that these ‘heat pumps’ that Boris wants us all to buy are not up to much.
    They say you need bigger radiators as normal ones are too small.

    So then, as well as the cost of putting this heat pump in you probably need to replace all your radiators to keep warm.
    That will bump the cost up by quite a large sum.

    On bbbc radio newcastle they are going full on to get everyone wearing masks and the like. WFH, protecting the nhs, social distancing etc.
    Their studio interview guests all agreed, wear masks.
    The Vox pops they chose to air all agreed, wear masks.
    All their presenters agree, wear masks (and the way they talked about seeing some people on the bus or in a supermarket without masks was in hushed tones of incredulous horror. “How could they be so selfish” you can almost hear them say.

    It’s as if the bbbc wants lockdown again and is pushing hard for it.

    Looks like Amess is now fish and chip paper, just like the Norwegian bow and arrow killer.


    • Up2snuff says:

      EG, you need bigger bore pipes to those larger radiators as well as a completely different fuse box set up. On top of that you will also need proper double glazing, if not triple glazing, and much better home insulation*. I wonder how much CO2 will be expended in the manufacture of all that?

      (* assuming you do not live in a property protected by Listing or LA heritage zoning requirements)


    • Old Goat says:

      Here in France, my neighbour had a heat pump installed. He said that although there was background warmth, the house just wasn’t comfortable in the winter. So he purchased a woodburner…


    • digg says:

      The BBC and the rest of the left-wing trash media simply want to rubbish the economy to get rid of the Tories. That is why they amplify every negative “NHS” quote however dubious. They can’t wait to get us all locked up in our homes again so that the economy tanks and Surkeer can ride to the rescue.

      The enemy within in fact!

      The appalling thing is that Boris and his cohort do not seem to be able to see what is going on and keep falling into the same old “how lovely we are” trap thus helping with their own demise.


    • Thatcherrevolutionary says:

      Had an engineer look at my 17 year old boiler for replacement. I mentioned earlier about the cost and the grant available, this was still double a new combi boiler.

      He then mentioned about the microbore pipework was too small and the radiators would require to be upgraded, as well as possible insulation increase from 200mm to 375mm in the attic.

      ‘Probably better off just get the Worcester’


    • theisland says:

      A view on heat pumps.


  14. Up2snuff says:

    BBC WEB-SITE Watch #1 – are you being just a little deceitful BBC?

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/ – top row, centre (since relegated to second row, right hand side)
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news – second row, second from left

    Yesterday, HMG led by Boris Johnson as Prime Minister, announced its plans to reach a NetZero carbon-based fuel usage by 2030/2031.

    This morning, the BBC on its web-site gives the appearance that the UK’s production and use of fossil fuels will continue to soar over the next decade. Only when you examine the text of each link – to one item written by Matt McGrath – do you find that the UK is at the end of a long list of fifteen major producers of fossil fuels such as Saudi Arabia, China, Russia and Australia and is a small producer when compared to those countries.

    You know you can trust the BBC to distort the news and attack a Conservative Party Government.


    • Halifax says:

      Thing is they ain’t attacking a Conservative government……


      • Up2snuff says:

        Halifax, true … maybe I should have described HMG as ‘NeoCons’ 😉 .

        Hope your recovery from Covid continues apace.


  15. Zephir says:

    All we need to do is stop traffic and all will be fine, what they are demanding, in essence, is the drivers they are stopping get taxed twice as much to pay for their demands whilst they sit in the road on benefits and goverment pensions

    the consistent whine of the left: tax tax tax while our protesters are available all day any day paying zero

    The same ignorant twats that have no family or household to look after, and those at the Guardian and bbc on 50 000 plus salaries with pensions that outweigh the national debt egging them on


  16. Zephir says:


    Britain is handing vast liabilities for public sector pensions over to future generations, warns this new report which has been written on IF’s behalf by the economist Neil Record.

    Many people are worried that Britain’s public finances are unsustainable. However, the situation is actually much worse than it appears because – in addition to its official national debt – the government has accumulated enormous unfunded liabilities to pay final salary pensions for public sector workers. Already, the government estimates that these are worth the intimidating sum of £1.1 trillion; however, based on his new analysis of the figures, Neil Record argues that the true estimate should be closer to £1.6 trillion – around half a trillion pounds higher – because the government is guilty of using an artificially high discount rate to make the liabilities appear smaller on paper than they really are.

    He argues that the impact of using this artificial discount rate is to mislead all parties involved in the debates over public sector pensions into thinking that the burden is more manageable than it will be in reality. He makes a bold call for the government to replace the artificial discount rate with a market rate, based on the prevailing yield from index-linked government gilts, as this would force today’s policy-makers to confront the size of the burden they are handing to future generations before it is too late.


    • Scroblene says:

      Well, all the kids just getting going with their protesting, gimmes, entitlements, love for immigrants etc., will be paying for that little lot!

      Sometimes you wonder whether they understand what to wish for?


  17. Zephir says:

    And those recipients of these pensions are the ones demanding WE PAY not them for their demands

    tax us they still get their pensions

    remember the seventies and eighties when they grew up two tea breaks a day and an hours lunch break and a canteen with subsidised meals and gauranteed pension for life

    not a single one of them could survive now in the current job market

    the smug idiots


  18. Zephir says:

    How many of them have studied science versus how many of them have listened to a bearded whild eyed twat with seven diesel cars on his property


  19. Up2snuff says:

    BBC WEB-SITE Watch #2 – spot the deliberate or non-deliberate mistake


    You have to have qualified and have a few years under your belt as a Doctor before you can revert to plain ‘Mr’, ‘Mrs’, ‘Miss’ or ‘M/s’ as a hospital consultant, or you did when I was young. Am guessing that the BBC wanted to ramp up the ‘fear’ 1. of fears for the safety of cherished institutions and those that work in one, and, 2. the fear of Covid-19/20a/20b/20c/20d/21e overwheming the NHS. All the BBC have done is shown that once again, when the NHS is left in the hands of a devolved Government it all falls apart.


    • StewGreen says:

      Do you mean the photo label “Dr James Calvert” ?
      The consultant does use that title on his official pages


      • Up2snuff says:

        No Stew, I was refering to the text of the article. It leapt out at me and poked me in the eye. The BBC’s insatiable desire for a ‘fear’ campaign overlooked a technical ‘schoolboy’ howler. Perhaps the BBC don’t employ sub-editors to fact check. Where’s Marianna when you need her to Spring into action?

        I’ll give you a clue: it is in an early paragraph.


  20. digg says:

    When Boris took the reins and steered the Country kicking and screaming through Brexit I thought that at last we were being led by a man with principle and foresight and a genuine concern for the majority of people of this Country.

    I am now increasingly convinced that I was wrong. Boris is an opportunist and is prepared to hijack funky ideas with no substance to make himself appear as a progressive with no thought to the dire consequences of his direction of travel.

    His newly discovered climate zeal, apart from giving him a high platform on the upcoming COP farce is based on an idea of himself as some sort of “saviour” rather than any reality as is his pretty stupid remarks and direction on heat pumps and EV vehicles which I know are dire and unworkable solutions for a Country such as ours.

    (One of my major clients is an HVAC Company and have assured me that heat pumps are only a workable “assistance” solution in very particular circumstances such as warehousing where temperature requirements are not so critical plus that overwhelmingly heat pumps are manufactured in the Far East thus bringing no commercial value to the UK but simply adding massively to the Trade Imbalance.)

    Both ideas if followed with action will lead to a dramatic lowering of standards of living, particularly for his new red wall voters and a virtue-signalling low-cost bonus for his more wealthy followers in the leafy Southern commuter belt towns and villages.

    It will be small succour to these people when they live through a new 2-tier society where they see the things that make their life easier being stripped away to be replaced by unworkable and unaffordable nonsense.

    Of course this will become clear in due course and the almighty backlash will see his new clothes fall into tatters but I guess by then he will be ensconced in the House of Lords and oblivious to the carnage.


    • vonrecht says:

      Boris HAS been a HUGE disappointment, but not entirely a huge surprise. Look to him to align himself with whatever the fashion demands, in future. This has been the pattern to date. But can he fool all of the people all of the time? Does he have any principles of his own?
      Doubt it.


      • gb123 says:

        When I see thing like this about Boris it always reminds me of Groucho Marx on principles .
        “Those are my principles, and if you don’t like them…well I have others.”
        “[He] may talk like an idiot, and look like an idiot, but don’t let that fool you: he really is an idiot.”


      • Fedup2 says:

        Will be interesting who will be parachuted into sarfff end as the new Tory MP .

        My money is on a personal friend of nut nut ….

        Can you imagine the behind the scene horse trading going on ?


      • G says:

        Almost a mirror image of Joe with whom he no doubt colludes.


    • Deborah says:

      I presume that Boris is positioning himself for when he is no longer Prime Minister. I assume a nice juicy position at the Gates Foundation or something at the World Economic Foundation is promised.


  21. theisland says:

    Rotten Politics. If you are blind you can get a colour tv licence for £79.50.


    • StewGreen says:

      It’s a touch more complicated than that
      cos most households are not 1 blind person on their own.
      A household might have 6 people in
      If just one of them is 100% blind then ALL of the others can watch colour TV and only have to chip in HALF the licence fee together.


      • Eddy Booth says:

        If the licence was free I wouldn’t want one.
        I had 20 minutes worth sat in a dentists waiting room🤢


        • Up2snuff says:

          Eddy, “I had 20 minutes worth sat in a dentists waiting room” after which the root canal treatment was a breeze and you probably didn’t feel a thing.


  22. StewGreen says:

    The baby name statistics : The story is not “OMG all baby’s have a Muslim name”

    The story is
    Guardianland’s #InvertedRacism
    in that they try to hide Muhammad is the most popular name by far.
    Their favouritism is in one direction only.

    However the context is it’s 2% of boys names not 50%
    A school of 1,000 students will have 10 Muhammads.


    • vonrecht says:

      The day I believe ANYTHING that comes from the Guardian, is the day I know I need to go into care. In fact, I usually just assume that the opposite of what they claim, is true, until proven otherwise.
      Same with the bbc, of course.


    • JimS says:


      No 20%, the others are called Fatima.


  23. StewGreen says:

    🟢 12:20pm R4 “There a GREEN tinge to the prog today”

    “Energy Co EV’s, Framework Laptop and Heat Pumps”

    ..trailer played 1 person loving his Heat Pump
    and 2 complaining

    Item #1 Power companies trying to push electric cars on you
    Usually selling you a leasing plan.
    The customer they aired was ecstatic.
    “now the Octopus Energy woman”

    ‘oh scary, scary. There is a chip shortage , so deliveries are being delayed. so you’d better order your Electric Car right away !’
    .. Yeh right


  24. Dover Sentry says:

    BBC Online News:

    “Mile End stabbing: Man critical after attack on east London night bus”

    “The Met Police said he remains in a critical condition.”

    “Two other men, aged 34 and 22, were treated for slash injuries which are not thought to be life-threatening.”

    “All three men were taken to hospital, London Ambulance Service said.”

    “A 34-year-old man was arrested at the scene on suspicion of causing grievous bodily harm, the Met said.”

    “One witness who was heading to work claims he saw the driver of the bus climb out of the window to escape”


    Was that it? Not a Quaker in sight?

    How can slash injuries not be life threatening?


    • Eddy Booth says:

      ‘The night bus features decoration in memory of the 7/7 attacks and reads “Spirit of London, remembering 7/7”.’.


  25. Emmanuel Goldstein says:

    Why don’t they have this cop meeting on zoom instead of all jetting in with their huge number of hangers on and all the msm. If it’s good enough for doctors appointments then why not the great and good. They can yak away at each other all week saying how green they will make their populations.

    Was is 223 deaths yesterday?
    How many were double jabbed.
    If most were, with about 90% jabbed there’s a problem.
    If most were not jabbed then we’re ok.
    I’ve never seen any stats of the deaths split into jabbed v non jabbed. If the jab works you could expect them to publicise it everywhere but they appear to be keeping quiet….why?


    • G.W.F. says:

      Each night we see the number of deaths, which appear to be increasing, and the numbers of jabbed, which is increasing.


  26. StewGreen says:

    Canadian government confirms that memo banning ‘Let’s Go Brandon’ is fake
    (The “Eff Joe Biden” meme )


  27. Johnda says:

    Just watched Bbc one o clock news( I know I’m a martyr)
    Inflation will only effect public sector workers. So the rest of us are rolling in it. No guaranteed job no guaranteed pension but hey ho we are so much better off


  28. StewGreen says:

    Green Blitzkrieg is being used to overwhelm us
    As I look at the number of TV and radio progs each day that push GreenDream agendas, I cannot keep up.
    I think that saturation PR is a trick that is used to STEAMROLLER things through

    Nevertheless each individual green policy is usually bad and they should be resisted one by one.


    The same applies for the massive amount of black and brown agenda pushing ..it too is like a blitzkrieg
    And is not really to the benefit of BAME and true equality
    but rather about WHITE Guardianland people trying to control things to their own agendas.


  29. Fedup2 says:

    Oh the irony

    Jonnie dymond on the 1pm news talking about spiking in nightclubs …. He being the journo caught with cannabis at an airport but claimed be bought it in a nightclub and forgot about it ….

    BBC fixated with ‘night clubs ‘ maybe it’s a kidult thing …


    • Eddy Booth says:

      It won’t be long before someone gets attacked twice, double jabbed.. I mean spiked


  30. digg says:

    In my young art college days there were some fellow students who took to cannabis and some who took to magic mushrooms and stuff or even harder drugs like coke. There were also some who steered clear of both.

    I now 100% know that most of the drug-taking students I knew are now either dead or schizophrenic.

    I have watched the gradual “pushing” of lighter regulation of these “recreational” drugs gain traction and also seen the infiltration of “near” drugs like CBD Cannabis oil being actively promoted and sold.

    The only beneficiaries of this will be the dealers supplying or trying to move their customers onto heavier and more costly stuff.

    I now see that Boris is mulling increasing his woke credentials by legalising more of the vicious and decidedly nasty stuff.


    The ex-hippies who now inhabit the commons, the press and the professions will be right behind this of course. I hate to think how much cannabis and coke walk in and out of BBC Studios every day.

    I see it as a selfish self-serving desire and am convinced that the end result will be the despoiling of our youngsters as they are taught to view these drugs as normal not to mention the impact on their mental health or the shortening of their lives.

    The Western World is slowly going mental.

    What I find difficult to understand is that many of these trendy types are in the forefront of the anti-tobacco fraternity yet refuse to accept the obvious parallels.


    • Garry Lavin says:

      Absolutely well said. When I was a design student…..nobody touched it. We were too clever for that nonsense. Only the students in other depts who liked the whole hippy student image bothered.

      You’re right about the psychotic thing. Every drug user I’ve known has become bonkers….or dead.


      • Up2snuff says:

        GL, friend of mine did some work for NHS at county/admin level about 20 years ago, supervising medications across hospitals (regular & psychie)/old people’s homes/hospices. Found those who had been teenagers in the 1960s were most likely to have mental or other serious health problems and could actually track it back to cannabis use.


  31. StewGreen says:

    Insulate Britain
    tying a protester to the railing does stop them blocking the road until the police arrive.
    .. It’s strange that promoter of the video is the Insulate Britain account.


    • tomo says:

      On my next visit to London I’m going to put a couple of tins of old paint in a box in the boot on the offchance they’ll find a use.


    • StewGreen says:

      BTW at another protest a “Smart Car” driver didn’t want to keep waiting for anti-vaxx protesters as they crossed
      so drove through pushing at least one aside
      so he got back in front of it but the cops dragged him away ..and let him go after a couples of minutes.
      .. https://youtu.be/X8ZB9Q820dc


  32. Dover Sentry says:

    We know that our envy of the world BBC do not allow any dissent as regards the Climate Change hoax.

    But, the same applies to our schools. They teach Climate Change as reality and dissent is not allowed. My fifteen year old son believes firmly in Climate Change. He told me that it must be true because the school says so.

    He equates non-believers with those who believe the world is flat.


    • moggie63 says:

      What are his views on the totally law abiding, integrating peacefuls? Obviously, I don’t mean the ones that support blowing up arenas, murdering young women for having an opinion or trying to saw off innocent people’s heads off in UK streets. Oh, wait.


  33. s.trubble says:

    Goodbye Sopel…………….hopefully forever……………
    Of all his output over these 7 years followed on this site…I can only liken his commentary to the guy at the bus stop who feels obliged to tell us that that is a bus coming….

    An expensive rascal and true licence tax thief and troughite.


  34. Doublethinker says:

    I have been trying to think of an institution that I still trust. So far I can’t think of one. Even the armed forces are only in ‘sometimes trust’ category because I suspect that the top brass are going Woke. The judiciary , police, most MPs of all parties , the Cof E, local government , education, many so called scientists , charity bosses are all in the ‘ almost never trust’ category. It goes without saying which category the BBC et al placed in.
    I find the readers comments in the Telegraph and the Spectator are more honest and certainly more illuminating than most of the journalists who write for the publications. Citizen journalist is a term that I heard coined recently and they certainly can’t be any less trustworthy than the MSM that we currently have.
    It is a very strange time that we live in !


  35. Rich says:


    My 13 year-old daughter is being taught about Islam in RE at the moment. I’m making sure that she realises that what she is being taught isn’t quite the full picture.

    Contrary to what I thought might be the case, there is a pretty strong traditionally Christian ethos at the school. Although as it’s a Grammar in what is basically the ‘buckle of the Bible belt’ here in NI, where church membership continues to remain strong, it shouldn’t really be too much of a surprise.

    Certainly nowhere near as surprising as finding out that Bono is also a topic which is part of the RE curriculum. Yep. Bono from U2. I can’t wait to find out wtf that’s all about.


    • Fedup2 says:

      Catholic Islam or Protestant Islam ?


    • Loobyloo says:

      But when teaching evolution, the syllabus states that you must mention that some people believe in creation – no evidence whatsoever…wonder why this might be?


    • Wild Bill says:

      I was invigilating in GCSE exams ten years ago, in Cumbria, couldn’t believe a religion exam was about Islam , there wasn’t even 1% of Muslim kids in the school.


  36. StewGreen says:

    Climategate drama that just aired ..and was written by an XR protester guy to fit the BBC bubbleworld
    One page has a thread of 67 McIntyre tweets
    I guess he will add more tweets later


  37. Zephir says:

    it is infecting everywhere:

    Pupils do their bit for climate change with introduction of ‘Meat Free Mondays’



  38. Zephir says:


    Setting the record straight on meat and greenhouse gases

    A healthy portion of meat’s bad rap centers on the assertion that livestock is the largest source of greenhouse gases worldwide.

    For example, a 2009 analysis published by the Washington, D.C.-based Worldwatch Institute asserted that 51 percent of global GHG emissions come from rearing and processing livestock.

    According to the US Environmental Protection Agency, the largest sources of US GHG emissions in 2016 were electricity production (28 percent of total emissions), transportation (28 percent) and industry (22 percent). All of agriculture accounted for a total of 9 percent.

    All of animal agriculture contributes less than half of this amount, representing 3.9 percent of total US greenhouse gas emissions. That’s very different from claiming livestock represents as much or more than transportation.

    Why the misconception? In 2006 the United Nations Food and Agriculture Organization published a study titled “Livestock’s Long Shadow,” which received widespread international attention. It stated that livestock produced a staggering 18 percent of the world’s greenhouse gas emissions.

    The agency drew a startling conclusion: livestock was doing more to harm the climate than all modes of transportation combined.

    This latter claim was wrong, and has since been corrected by Henning Steinfeld, the report’s senior author.

    The problem was that FAO analysts used a comprehensive life-cycle assessment to study the climate impact of livestock, but a different method when they analyzed transportation.

    For livestock, they considered every factor associated with producing meat. This included emissions from fertilizer production, converting land from forests to pastures, growing feed, and direct emissions from animals (belching and manure) from birth to death.

    However, when they looked at transportation’s carbon footprint, they ignored impacts on the climate from manufacturing vehicle materials and parts, assembling vehicles and maintaining roads, bridges and airports. Instead, they only considered the exhaust emitted by finished cars, trucks, trains and planes.

    As a result, the FAO’s comparison of greenhouse gas emissions from livestock to those from transportation was greatly distorted.

    Researchers have identified multiple options for reducing greenhouse gas emissions from the livestock sector. Red bars represent the potential range for each practice. Herrero et al, 2016, via Penn State University, CC BY-NC-SA


    • Up2snuff says:

      Zephir, I think ‘animal rights’ activists may have egged on the UN IPCC to come up with this nonsense about veganism. In their turn, I think the ‘animal rights’ activists have been driven by a few industrial type farms almost entirely in the USA such as Cowschwitz in California – as the locals there refer to it. Then again, those same ‘animal rights’ activists plus the UN’s IPCC look at some of the deforestation going on in South America and assume it is all to produce grain to feed cows in Brazil, Argentina and the USA.

      They do not realise or understand that a lot of Soya farming is to provide milk for people who have become Vegans already!


      • Zephir says:

        Up02snuff I’m cooking some sausages and going for a walk in the woods later, if the woods have disappeared I could possibly blame it on the sausages, or, maybe Herts County Council stuffing more flats in the home counties whilst there is 94 % of land not built on around the country

        So, Up2snuff should I cancel the sausages ?

        Actually I dont care what you say the sausages stay


        • Zephir says:

          New land cover atlas reveals just six per cent of UK is built on

          Land cover atlas of UK shows more than half of land use is agricultural
          Around six per cent of the UK is built on with 83 per cent of the population living in towns and cities
          England is the most urbanised among the home nations with nine per cent of land classed as built on



        • Up2snuff says:

          Zephir, enjoy the sausages. Eat with relish, savouring the complete rage a COP26 Vegan would be feeling if they were watching you. I recommend saugages with a side of mashed potato plus onions cooked in butter + salt topped with Ketchup and maybe some red onion relish for good measure.

          I’ve actually driven past Cowschwitz and it was an interesting experience. The smell rose up to meet the traffic on the Interstate some distance before you reached the farm and lingered for a mile or two afterward. I like meat but prefer the Pacific Coast Highway.


    • Banania says:

      How is the banning of live animal exports going? That was going to be something we could at last enforce once we had left the accursed EU.


      • Up2snuff says:

        Banania, have a notion that it has been done but my memory could be faulty on that.


  39. G says:

    For general information.

    Another example of the whittling away of any protection/defence a member of the public has against wrongdoing by his neighbour.

    As I understand it, this case provides a precedent. So, if you are a CCTV addict waiting to catch wrongdoing by neighbours etc, better watch this video.

    On the bright side, if you are the innocent party in a neighbourly dispute, the precedents created here may help you. ‘Two sides to every coin’


  40. Zephir says:

    I recall in Wells after visiting the cathedral we went to a “fudge shop” and whilst perusing was asked if I wanted”vegan fudge”

    I was astounded to the point I could not reply, fudge is milk, sugar and butter

    I just walked out shaking my head at the idiocy of that question

    In my mind was she is offering me sugar, if I wanted sugar I’d go to the tescos nearby and it would be a bloody damn site cheaper

    and god only knows what brown sludge she hides it in as she flogs it to the idiots

    I did leave a remark as I walked out that I refused to purchase a as none of her product was guaranteed free range sugar or dolphin friendly


    • BigBrotherCorporation says:

      Most of the fattest people I know are either vegetarians or vegans… in most cases they are (sorry) women, and very much cake, chocolate, and fudgarians.

      My kids eat more vegetables and far less sugar than they do – most of these ‘vegetarians’/’vegans’ are certainly NOT healthy eaters… as is very readily apparent just by looking at them and their waistlines.


      • Zephir says:

        “its their glands innit”

        funny that none of the japanese prisoners of war on a limited diet and forced to work never had these glandular problems

        they all lost weight for some strange, weird, unimaginable reason

        If only we could figure that out


        • Zephir says:

          Any visit to the NHS emergency clinic on a Sunday will reveal a queue of fat, gut bucket sunday footballers in size xxxl football shirts with twisted ankles

          its their glands innit

          (nothing to do with McDonalds, KFC orDominos pizzas )


    • Zephir says:


      Carnation Condensed Milk


      Demerara sugar


      You will also need…

      20cm square tin lined with baking parchment


      • Zephir says:

        That is fudge


      • Zephir says:

        We are consistently told by the bbc that the chinese are nasty to the poor muslims, (they are all victims are they not, whilst they gang rape our kids)

        When will we get any comments from David Amess wife as we get endless crap from anyone associated with the Cox woman


      • JimS says:

        Save on the milk, most is just boiled off. Save on the baking parchment, I have never encountered a toffee, tablet or fudge that will stick to a metal pan.


        • Emmanuel Goldstein says:

          Use a non stick pan.

          NASA spent billions in space where they invented the non stick pan.
          It seems a waste to me because, in space, the sausages would just float off.
          They would have been better of inventing a sticky pan where the sausages will stay in.


          • JimS says:

            I’ve been making sticky stuff for 50 plus years, poured into plain tinned trays. It does not stick. My Scottish ‘Rural’ cookery books have never heard of baking parchment or non-stick pans – they managed OK and so do I.

            Toffee etc. is quite capable of stripping non-stick coatings from pans.


        • Up2snuff says:

          Jim, you forgot to add ‘for long’ to “I have never encountered a toffee, tablet or fudge that will stick to a metal pan.” 😉



  41. StewGreen says:

    “Turn off that gas fire, grandma
    .. now give me £20K to install your heatpump

    cos otherwise all your grandkids are going to fry on a burning planet”


  42. StewGreen says:

    Lembit last night


  43. Guest Who says:

    Being the BBC, unless posting here reveals more, I am unsure if this means a latter Leigh Day Oskar Skorzeny doing something beastly to mostly peaceful men of beard, or men of beard of the Cologne Mohammed variety doing it back.


    • Rob in Cheshire says:

      If it’s the lads in the Toyota, I can only say that the Wehrmacht has changed a lot over the years.

      Interesting to see a Russian DP light machine gun though. I haven’t seen one of those for years.


  44. vlad says:

    The cowardly BBC are doing what they always do after each new islamic terror attack: deflect, distract, whistle Kumbaya and ignore as much as possible.

    While the murder of David Amess hasn’t yet been officially declared an islamic terrorist attack, the police suspect “a potential motivation linked to Islamist extremism”. Which is pretty damn close.

    And the evidence is piling up: according to the Guardian (of all papers!) Ali Harbi was not only referred to the spectacularly misnamed Prevent programme, but he was further referred to the more ‘intensive’ “Channel programme” (presumably named after the terrorists’ preferred route of entry).

    You know things are bad when even the Guardian does more probing than the BBC, who are doing nothing: no investigation into the killer’s background, contacts, social media activity, religious beliefs etc. They would no doubt justify that on the grounds that it’s an ongoing investigation, but it’s not stopping the Grauniad, and it didn’t stop the BBC in the case of the Jo Cox killer, nor the Christchurch mosque attacker.

    Sidenote to the Grauniad article: “Muslim communities have made a string of criticisms of Prevent, arguing that it unfairly targets them…” No, really? Why would that be, I wonder?



  45. Zephir says:

    “Prevent” ? what a bloody stupid idea

    Put thec@nts behind barbed wire, legs and arms shackled, the Americans got it right

    what do we do ? let them loose and light some f’cking candles after they stab, rape and bomb us

    About time our socialist civil servants and council employees and their children fall victim to these vicious sub humans to truly understand what murderous sub humans we have let into our country


    • vlad says:

      You’d think our Honourable members would sit up and take notice as the muslim murderers get closer and closer to them: first the Westminster Bridge attack nearly got them, and now an MP is dead. But apparently not, they just debate irrelevant nonsense such as angry Tweets.

      Remember, they only have to get lucky once.


      • BigBrotherCorporation says:

        Fiddling while Rome burns, or rearranging the deckchairs on the Titanic?


  46. StewGreen says:

    Covid situation not looking great
    Like when will the downturn come ?
    Deaths have been a flattish average 140/day for the last 30 days
    .. https://twitter.com/LawrenceGilder/status/1450846392012972035

    We are not doing a very good job of protecting the super vulnerable oldies it seems.


  47. StewGreen says:

    “Afghan refugees declare themselves homeless to jump council queues”
    is not the title the BBC use

    More than 200 families have asked councils in London for emergency accommodation.


    • Eddy Booth says:

      Noting new then. Wonder if the Southend attacker and his family have council accommodation


    • Nibor says:

      Why doesnt Scotland take them as Sturgeon says refugees are always welcome there ?


  48. Emmanuel Goldstein says:

    Isn’t it fortunate for the government that the rate of inflation has gone down to 3.1% (they say but everybody knows it’s a lie) on the month where pensions are due their rise in line with inflation.

    I suppose that’s the lowest they could manipulate their figures down otherwise they would have to remove the inflation part of the ‘double lock’ leaving the increase at 2.5% (single lock?)

    The rise for the vast majority of pensioners, those over 70, the second class pensioners who have paid in for 50 years, will barely cover their council tax increases if you count the add on charges. Then there’s the real heavy rises, energy for example.

    Those pensioners with savings might see a rise in the b of e rate to maybe 0.2% (to bring down inflation whilst still printing money) which may give them on average, a fiver a year more although those paying income tax will lose 20% of this and the 3.1% rise.

    Still, what can we do. They’ve made the choice we have either Tory or Labour. Two cheeks of the same arse.
    I wish Reform, UKIP, Britain First and the rest would get together and then we just might be able to get rid of the current two left wing parties.

    I’m not holding my breath though. They know they can do whatever they want to us because Labour are even worse than the so called conservatives.


  49. StewGreen says:

    🟢 ITV local news shoving another green lecture down your throat.
    As usual they mix up Climate and plastic
    Saving plastic is reducing CO2
    CO2 is one environmental issue … Microplastics is another ..which to me is not bigger problem than stone dust, otherwise there’d be lots of dead animal bodies everywhere

    The item featured a WWF PR person, so from originated out of them.


  50. Emmanuel Goldstein says:

    One of the regular panellists on Dewbs and Co should be given her own show.
    Joanna Williams speaks total common sense and reason.
    It’s a pleasure listening to her and GB News could have a real gem on their hands.
    Sign her up.

    By the way, did you know that the holes in the face mask cloth (200 micrometers) are 2,000 times the diameter of the covid virus (0.1 micrometer diameter)


    • vlad says:

      Agreed. According to some bios she is Senior Lecturer in Higher Education at the University of Kent.

      If so, how long before she’s cancelled, deplatformed or sacked? Can’t have common sense in our lefty Unis, whatever next?