687 Responses to Midweek 12 January 2022

  1. taffman says:

    “Brexit: Liz Truss aims for ‘reset’ as UK-EU protocol talks resume”
    Boris has blustered long enough . Time we were out completely !
    Miller and Adonis are trying to get us back in to the EU.


    • MarkyMark says:

      Hotel California – “We are programmed to receive / You can check out any time you like / But you can never leave!”


  2. tarien says:

    The traitor political puppets have imported dark, malevolent legions from every corner of the earth and set them loose upon native Britons in an orgy of violence, theft, fraud, rape, murder corruption, and every other wickedness known to mankind.
    These puppets have deliberately facilitated the systematic colonisation, dispossession and genocide of our people, the native British. At the same time our people have been brainwashed and threatened into accepting mass abortion, sterilisation, paedophilia, family breakdown, degeneracy, dehumanisation, false guilt, social and cultural disintegration, industrial sabotage, perpetual usury and mental and physical slavery. Their agenda is the subjugation and extinction of the white race. But the, most wicked crime of all is to be aware of it. To know what is behind it all. To expose them publicly and to list their crimes against humanity and to name them and their satanic creed. To draw the line and stand to it. To protect our children and our futures. To be aware of the goodness of nature, and treat which, despises it. To be proud of what we are and proclaim it.
    That about sums up what is mostly known about the evil dewllers in our midst whose crimes must somehow be atoned for. Has the pit become just too slimy to clean?


  3. dafydd says:


    China has infiltrated the House of Commons, donating upto £500k to Barry Gardner Labour MP and others. The Chinese woman who infiltrated parliament has a son who worked for Barry Gardner, the son has now quit Barry Gardner’s office and been told to leave the Commons.

    M15 has been involved for some time.

    The first 15 minutes on Sky was lead by this story, what was the lead story on the BBC, bloody Partygate again.

    Sky political correspondent saying this Chinese infiltration could be a massive story in the coming days.

    Just sums up the crap being dealt up by the BBC, and sums up what the BBC agenda is… Unbelievable


    • Thoughtful says:

      And? People on these pages constantly say that they would much rather have foreign government making up the pittance we pay our MPs so they can save a ha’penny a decade. In fact they sometimes go so far as to say that MPs shouldn’t receive a salary at all and should be the pawns of foreign governments completely.

      So smile you are getting what you pay for – which isn’t much to be honest.


      • dafydd says:


        I have no idea what your talking about

        The point I’m trying to make is that with such a serious and developing story the BBC still see’s fit to lead with Partygate.

        I couldn’t give a monkey’s cuss who gets paid what, all I’m concerned about is the appalling conduct of the BBC

        I thought that was the whole point of this forum


        • Thoughtful says:

          We have been dicsussing the issue of bribery on the forum for many months dafydd, maybe you haven’t seen those disucussions.
          It links to the BBC in many ways with a revolving door between the Labour party and the corporation.
          We have seen the CCP bribe many media outlets including the New York Times which was at one time publishing outright propaganda for them.

          It’s about recognising this propaganda, why it happens and how, and how far its influence reaches. One prominent erstwhile Democrat supporting lawyer whose lecture I watched reckons half of DC is on the Saudi payroll. If it’s spread that far in the USA imagine how far it’s spread in the UK.

          Corruption here is now rife and it isn’t just the politicians who are involved.


          • popeye says:

            Talking of corruption, did not the premier and vice-premier of New South Wales have to resign because of financial links with Pfizer? Are we supposed to think that the multi-billion corporation, mainly owned by billionaires and making many billions from the pandemic, were only interested in a single state in a single country? Maybe the BBC can investigate /sarc


      • MarkyMark says:

        Working for the Country should be payment itself – but it is not enough.



      • Nibor says:

        Thoughtful ,

        If we paid MPs the money you think they should be paid , would you guarantee that none of them would ever be corrupt, and all of them would be wiser than the present lot in our Parliament?


        • MarkyMark says:

          Blundering Diane Abbott mocked AGAIN for Grenfell tweet saying ‘fire puts out water’


        • richard D says:

          Nibor – I’m sure, as you will be, that nobody could guarantee that.

          However, it goes far wider than corrupt or corruptible politicians – should we be paying, for instance, incredible salaries to the CEOs and the CFOs of major public sector organisations – such as Health Authorities for instance,- who repeatedly set annual budgets for their organisations, even in non-pandemic years, and within just a few months, they are wailing to the public that they can’t manage within their budgets and they’re goiing to need even more money….. for heaven’s sake – they fail year after year to fulfil the fundamental needs of their key task – making it work.

          And how many of these very highly paid individuals, throughout the past few years, have sat on their duffs at every single opportunity, and waited to be told exactly what to do by the civil service or members of the government – so they can never be blamed for anything that happens ? These people (and it’s endemic throughout the public sector) are not real professionals – they are ‘jobswoths’ and should not be treated with any respect if they can’t do their job !


          • Nibor says:

            I agree with you Richard .

            Thoughtful posits that if we paid our MPs more we would get better MPs , non corruptible and more sagacious than the present lot .

            I disagree . There is no evidence that will happen .

            Our well renumerated senior civil servants ( grade 5 and above) are the most mendacious self serving , indolent , narrow minded half wits who ever are part of a nations governance.

            Rather than pay them more I would hang the lot of them .


            • Thoughtful says:

              Laws which are currently pretty flexible and laid down in the 1700s would have to be changed to make corruption much more difficult.

              If you hanged them all who would run the country, make the decisions?


              • Nibor says:

                The people should run the country via their representatives in Parliament.

                A new civil service that believes in patriotism should assist the MPs .


      • Fedup2 says:


        PITTANCE – YOU THINK £84 k is a PITTANCE ? Can you me some money please ? A pittance will do ….

        How you can campaign for MPs to get more taxpayers ‘ cash is obscene . Cut their numbers – cut their pay – ban their families from benefitting – stop the second home payments – and if they don’t like it – go find a better job .

        Barry Gardner on corrupt E500k payments and you think that’s ok ? Go campaign on another site – or concentrate on the damn BBC


    • Seppers says:

      Sky and the Spectator were right on it. But bbc took quite a while longer to report it.


  4. MarkyMark says:

    China and Imperial
    Imperial is the UK’s number one university collaborator with Chinese research institutions

    More than 600 research papers published with Chinese institutions every year

    2,600 Chinese students at Imperial – our largest international group

    225 Chinese staff carrying out world leading research

    More than 7,000 alumni living in China – the largest group outside the UK



    • Thoughtful says:

      And yet that is still eclipsed by the funding received from Saudi Arabia who are our universities number two source of funding after the UK government.
      Of course that funding comes with strings to promote Islam and allow Muslim students to do what ever they please.


      • MarkyMark says:

        The funding of strategically important subjects in UK universities

        Click to access Foreign_funding.pdf

        What is noticeable from the research undertaken in this report is the disparity
        in the levels of funding from the countries studied. There are huge amounts
        of cash currently being donated by Arab and Islamic sources, and this has undoubtedly led to a degree of influence in the oversight of UK universities. China,
        however, while donating only a relatively small amount of cash, has managed
        to gain a disproportionate amount of influence in UK higher education via its
        Confucius Institutes. What is also clear is that, in terms of money donated, the
        likes of Japan and Russia do not appear to have the desire to influence higher
        education in the same way as China or certain countries in the Muslim world.


  5. Expat John says:

    Typical BBC coverage of the Chinese spy story…
    You have to wade through 9 paragraphs of story followed by 11 paragraphs of “analysis” before you come across the words “Barry Gardner” or “Labour”
    Why, BBC?
    If that had been a Tory it would have been the headline.


    • MarkyMark says:


      The All Party Parliamentary China Group (APPCG) was established in 1997 to widen the parliamentary contribution to the UK-China bilateral relationship. Our mission is to ensure parliamentarians are kept well informed on China, and to act as a platform for discussions on all issues of importance to the UK-China relationship.

      Coming up in 2021
      January 14th, 2021
      Sectoral Analysis Series: UK and China in the Nuclear Energy Industry, a webinar interview with EDF Energy. [parliamentarians only]

      February 4th, 2021
      Internal meeting on Hong Kong Judiciary and Business Sector [parliamentarians only]

      February 25th, 2021
      Annual General Meeting [parliamentarians only]

      March 9th, 2021
      Sectoral Analysis Series: UK and China in the Space Sector with Professor Anu Ojha, Director of the National Space Academy [parliamentarians only]

      April 14th, 2021
      Human Rights Update [parliamentarians only]

      April 19th, 2021
      Sectoral Analysis Series: UK Businesses in China with representatives from the Federation of Small Businesses and the Confederation of Business Industry

      May 13th, 2021
      Business Roundtable with Fang Wenjian, Chair of the Chinese Chamber of Commerce UK (CCCUK) [parliamentarians and sponsors only]

      May 19th, 2021
      Foreign Media and Journalism in China, insights and updates from key representatives [parliamentarians only]

      May 20th, 2021
      Diplomatic Roundtable with Dame Caroline Wilson DCMG, British Ambassador to China [parliamentarians only]

      June 8th, 2021
      Assessing the Indo-Pacific Tilt: What it means for UK relations with China in the Region, with Rt Hon. Jeremy Hunt MP


      • Fedup2 says:

        Damn they must climb over each other to get their snouts onto the China committee – thoughtful here will be telling us MPs deserve more money – when all it will do is encourage even more corruption…


    • Seppers says:

      They took a while to report compared to Sky… maybe thinking up how to spin it…


  6. MarkyMark says:

    Parliament’s platform for discussion on all issues of importance to the bilateral UK-China relationship

    He was British Trade Commissioner China, First Secretary in the British Embassy Beijing and HM Consul Macao 1989-92. From 1993-97 he opened and ran Baring plc then ING Barings office in China, was a director of the Greater China Fund plc, founder Chairman of the British Chamber of Commerce in Shanghai, refounder of the Shanghai Cricket Club and a member of the first ever crossing of the Taklamakan Desert. Richard later ran Baring Asset Management’s international and institutional businesses. See also. http://www.richardgraham.org/.


  7. MarkyMark says:

    Name of donor: Christine Lee & Co
    Address of donor: 86 Holloway Head, Birmingham B1 1NB

    Amount of donation or nature and value if donation in kind: the services of a Parliamentary Researcher for 5 days per week from 28 February 2020 to 30 June 2020, approx. value £11,982

    Date received: 28 February 2020 to 30 June 2020

    Date accepted: 28 February 2020

    Donor status: company, registration 2890577

    (Registered 16 July 2020)



    Chinese agent infiltrating Parliament, MI5 warns
    By Gordon Corera & Jennifer Scott
    Security correspondent & political reporter, BBC News


  8. taffman says:

    “Brixham fish market has £43m ‘record year’ of landings”
    We could do even more . We, in Great Britain have a huge sources at our hands but we need a government with the bottle to get on with it!


    • MarkyMark says:

      Eat Chinese food instead.


    • theisland says:

      We certainly could do more.

      According to her the 1988 Merchant Shipping Act needs to be reinstated.


      • MarkyMark says:

        Anger as UK told not to fish or eat fish but let the Spanish fish and eat fish whilst UK pension people cannot turn heating on.


      • taffman says:

        Much more, but this great nation of ours needs a leader.
        Unfortunately we do not have one or any one in the present Tory cabinet .
        Our only salvation would be a resurrection of The Brexit Party in a coalition with The Reform Party and UKIP .


  9. MarkyMark says:

    Chritsine Lee COmpany ….





    Christine Ching Kui LEE

    Total number of appointments 16


  10. tomo says:


    “he-eer comes Hilary!!”


  11. MarkyMark says:

    Barry 2014 ….

    (a) Name of donor: Christine Lee & Co
    (a) Address of donor: 86 Holloway Head, Birmingham B1 1NB
    (a) Amount of donation or nature and value if donation in kind: £5,000 raised at the gala dinner on 8 October 2014 sponsored by the donation registered on 11 November 2014


    Chinese agent infiltrating Parliament, MI5 warns


  12. richard D says:

    One journalistic ploy which could be implemented by the BBC is to ask every senior Labour/LibDem/SNP politician pontificating on the BBC whether, if it is proved that some sort of event was held/attended by them or any members of their staff (no matter how briefly), during the same period they are criticising the Conservatives for, would they immediately resign their positions as they are asking of the Prime Minister et al ? Yes or no, being the only two possible answers !

    …… and then harangue them with the same question, or variants, for the duration of the interview, as they have been doing with any goverment minister recently, and if they still don’t get a clear answer, crack one of their usual asides at the end of their interviews, such as “…. well, Mr Starmer/Ms Rayner/Ms Reeves/Ms Cooper/Mr Milliband/Mr Davey/Mr Blackford clearly doesn’t want to answer that question, but demand that it is posed to their opponents, so let’s now hand over to Laura Keunssberg, the BBC’s Political Editor, for her analysis of the possibility of some substantial hypocrisy on behalf of opposition members ….”

    The BBC has had days now to formulate such an obvious approach, but I haven’t heard of it being asked….. perhaps others have ? I suspect, given it’s the BBC we’re talking about, probably not !


  13. MarkyMark says:

    Destination of visit: Nagoya, Japan and Tianjin, China
    Date of visit: 24 October-7 November 2010
    Purpose of visit: to chair the Parliamentarians Forum of the United Nations Convention on Biological Diversity organized by the Convention Secretariat and GLOBE International and to attend the Parliamentary Forum on Climate Change organized by China’s National People’s congress and GLOBE International.


    Changes to the Register of Members’ Interests
    Barry Gardiner


  14. Guest Who says:

    No idea who she is, but Springster likes this, natch.

    Safer than digging holes on statues.


    • MarkyMark says:

      Nuala McGovern
      Presenter of BBC’s Outside Source 15-17GMT BBC World Service, you’ll also find me on BBC World News & BBC News IG:
      Dublin, London, Wicklownualamcgovern.comJoined July 2012
      5,141 Following


  15. MarkyMark says:

    China cash link to Labour MP
    £180,000 fund for pro-Beijing shadow minister


    Barry Gardiner with Christine Lee in 2014. Her law firm has funded staff costs for the shadow international trade secretary since 2015 and her son works in his parliamentary office


    Mr Gardiner has generally taken a pro-Beijing stance in his shadow portfolios. In his previous role as shadow energy secretary, he supported Chinese involvement in Britain’s nuclear power industry.


    • Philip_2 says:

      Reading in the TELEGRAPH it was nearer £500K pocketed by Labour MP Barry G. Not sure what he could promise the Chinese. One proposition could be to have our military equipment made in China with a big GREEN sticker on it. But no politician is stupid enough to fall for it. !!! BBC would prefer we adopt Chinese pronouns combined with Islamic sensibility. Donations accepted.


  16. MarkyMark says:

    New lobby row as former Chancellor Philip Hammond lands job with Saudi finance minister – raising fears he could offer ‘access and influence’ to a foreign government
    Philip Hammond took the job despite concerns of a parliamentary watchdog
    Mr Hammond, 65, lost the Tory whip after rebelling against PM’s Brexit plans
    Now Lord Hammond of Runnymede, he set up the consultancy Matrix Partners and has taken up more than a dozen commissions over the past year


  17. Guest Who says:

    Good to see John Boyega in there as Pantone 000


    • richard D says:

      Since Ian Fleming wrote the Bond books characterising the main player in them as a laconic, un-woke Scot, and despite being initially taken aback at the introduction of Sean Connery to the role, eventually changed his view and basically endorsed the choice.

      Now…. in this day and age of the condemnaton of cultural ‘misappropriation’, why would anyone consider anything but a very pale-skinned individual as being the new Bond ?


      • tarien says:

        Time to throw the continuation of J Bond films out-with Daniel Graig the story lines have been lost in complete and utter savage behaviour, the support of such violence will no doubt be believed by those with little sense to realise that they cannot replicate the film story.


    • tomo says:

      When are the extreme body piercing and tattoo crew going to play their discrimination card?

      People with full facial tattoos, embedded pieces of LEGO and recycled piston rings in their nostrils shouldn’t be discriminated against ?

      The Guardian will no doubt lead the charge assisted by the BBC.


  18. Philip_2 says:

    Ex NBC news chief Deborah Turness will be “outstanding” at delivering impartial coverage when she takes over her new BBC £400,000-a-year job, peers were told yesterday…

    Well that would be a novel idea ‘impartial coverage’ – but the BBC would have chosen her for her innate ‘bias’ based on past loyalty to (US) NBC news network which Ricky Gervais jokes as being full of “Woke Cretins’ at the global awards ceremony (or words very similar) last week. That is why she will earn more tan TWICE her previous worth at NBC. BBC rewards those that play politics and show loyalty to the cause of global socialism.

    In The Telegraph it was reported that the UK Chief of Staff of our National Defence earns £250,000 tops. The perverse ‘media’ business of the BBC (which is ‘crap’ to work for) has to offer (usually a lot more) and usually ‘TWICE’ as much as other ‘broadcasters’ for its actors and agitators to keep them ‘focussed’ – on the real job of promoting left wing politics. The new BBC ‘Head-of-News’ – will be predictable and uninspiring..


    Another memorable example, was following the Saville scandal was MARK THOMPSON the ‘ex BBC’ flunky and DG that ran away to the US to avoid UK prosecution and was awarded by a BBC ‘exclusive’ of million pound BONUS in expenses on his new job of running the New York Times, another ‘left’ enclave that makes the BBC seem quaint rich ‘auntie’ with deep pockets. Reported by parliamentary sub committee Patricia Hodge who was ‘shocked’ (at BBC expenses overall) at the time. The BBC under Lord Hall tried to justify the expense at the same time as avoiding that Jimmy Saville worked for the BBC as an employee – with expenses.

    Mark THOMPSON now millions richer, has a new book to get plugged by the BBC:

    And in the Daily Express (January 12th 2022) – Another ‘ex BBC’ employee has described himself as a ‘business Tycoon’. As they do, all (BBC) entrepreneur feeding on the taxpayers teats of the generous TV license. Has a story to tell (not reported on the BBC) but employed by the BBC.

    ‘A former BBC executive’ is being sued by one of London’s top ‘exclusive’ hotels after leaving them with £740,000 hotel bill.
    Jason Blain – BBC Worldwide booked his £4,275 per night penthouse overlooking Hyde Park in London for six months and left without paying a tip, the bill being overall £1.25 million pounds.
    (you read that right). This case is being heard in the High Court rather than the BBC itself. Staff ‘expenses’ are always hidden. That is why he is an ‘ex’ BBC in this news report.

    Its not the first time BBC ‘expenses’ are really very generous. Plus the fact they earn TWICE as much as the rest of the media ‘biz’ is why the BBC is a ‘favourite’ if your skint, and a former ‘anarchist’ or ‘political rights’ agitator. So Deborah Turness is a perfect to replace the fragarent ‘Jan Fransworth’ who is stepping down to get a plumb job elsewhere in the media circus. Well rewarded with the BBC road to fortune. Gold plated beyond the means of mortals.
    The reason why the BBC pension scheme is in ‘deficit’ and uses more of the TV license each year to pay for it. They will never have enough money to pay themselves.

    And every time we criticise the BBC, they take it as ‘proof ‘that they have the ‘moral’ edge and are ‘trusted’ by 88% of the population (which can never be proved any more than the claim than ‘Black Lives matter’ or ‘Isaac Newton’ was somehow ‘gay’ as he somehow liked ‘rainbows’). The fact that many of us ‘avoid’ the BBC and its absurd claims of ‘impartiality at its core’, – is as far from the truth as you can get in reality. It rarely happens.


    Finally, I have come to respect Rick Gervais for speaking what many ‘luvvies’ fail to do when awarded ‘Golden Globes’ and turn into it to party political speech on Black Lives matter and saving little children in Africa or how they saved the planet by buying a TESLA car or other nonsense the left come up with as ‘screw the rest of you’.

    Rick Gervais: “…. So if you win an award tonight, don’t use your platform to make a political speech”. “ Your in no position to lecture the public about anything. You know nothing about the real world”

    And he mentioned the kind of (US) biased broadcaster called ‘NBC’ which is a US identikit clone of the BBC ‘public service’ collective in US. And that is why the BBC have chosen an arch manipulator of the news (now) Deborah Turness to front the BBC news operation for – £400,000 a year + expenses (you can ‘guess’ and then double it again).

    Only 37% think the BBC was ‘impartial’ in 2018. Nothing has changed before or since.

    More up to date is Ann Widdecombe on ‘Alarming bias of BBC bulletins’ – DAILY EXPRESS yesterday (Wednesday) 12th January 2022:

    Alarming BBC predictions are balanced by even worse predictions of the ‘end-of-the-world’ and using children to repeat the claim as a chant.


  19. tomo says:

    Dr Malone’s interview with Joe Rogan just hit 50 million views.


  20. Kinell says:

    You know times are tough when you see Midgets having trouble putting food on the table.


  21. MarkyMark says:

    The co-founder of the Behavioural Insights Team – AKA the “Nudge Unit”, responsible for changing public behaviour via behavioural science and psychology – has today published an extraordinary op-ed slamming the government for abusing his team’s work during the pandemic, and “willingly convey[ing]” fear on the public to such an extent that it verged on “state propaganda”.



  22. StewGreen says:

    Has the Gingerphobic BBC ever made any special priorities for Ginger Jobs ?
    ITV “A human rights charity in Yorkshire is calling for red-haired children who are targeted with abuse to be given more protection, following the sacking of a Sheffield teaching assistant who poked fun at a ginger child.

    Equality and Human Rights UK, which are based in the city, says red-haired children are being “targeted mercilessly” because of their appearance and it’s too often dismissed as “banter”.

    It comes after a former teaching assistant in the city lost an unfair dismissal claim following his sacking for behaviour including upsetting a red-haired child.

    The man – referred to in official documents as Mr J Brelsford – is said to have included a discussion on ‘Gingerphobia’ in a lesson at St Wilfred’s Primary School after one child in the class had been teased by his classmates for the colour of his hair.


    What’s the percentage ?
    It must be 10-15% around here


  23. BRISSLES says:

    If you read the current situation in this country you’d think it was from the Fiction section of the Library !

    Our tale starts with a country somewhere in the Northern Hemisphere, with a monarchy where the once second in line to the throne is fighting a sexual abuse case and has lost all his Moldovian style military medals. His nephew has left the safety of his family and with his wife have become cartoon characters in the land of Disney. In the meantime the Prime Minister of this land is embroiled in a series of scandals ranging from the breaking of lobbying rules, to whether a glass of wine drunk outside was legal or not. Another element thrown into the mix is the Chinese infiltration of the beleaguered government, – a woman spy no less ! paying for paper clips and photocopying paper in the office of a Left wing MP and where her son was employed to man the diary !!! God almighty the Chinese have already dosed up the world with Covid yet clearly a contract with Staples is what they really want.

    You really couldn’t make this up.


    • Seppers says:

      And a man who entered the country into a war of dubious legality with no exit plan is awarded just about the highest honour of the land. Hey ho…


      • taffman says:

        While we are engrossed with midget gems, Russia and China are getting belligerent?


  24. pugnazious says:

    So the BBC are close to getting what they want…Boris’ scalp. Boris, white, straight, male, Etonian, Tory, winner of Brexit and a thumping Tory majority…just what is it that the BBC et al hate about Boris?

    The BBC blatantly targets Boris and have done for years. Their main line of attack is ‘You can’t trust Boris’….Nick Robinson especially is prone to suggesting ‘There is something about Boris….he’s not believable…he’s not trustworthy’…a line so many BBC presenters use that you know this is an ‘editorial’ line adopted by the BBC, officially or unofficially.

    Boris may or may not be trustworthy but then not a single politician is…so why is it that the BBC targets only Boris in particular for this alleged character flaw? Why does the BBC consistently push this narrative about him? Corbyn was completely untrustworthy, a terrorist and an anti-Semite but the BBC didn’t just turn a blind eye they championed his cause even telling us he was the only politician to have stuck to his convictions during the 2017 election…as he ruthlessly dumped all his convictions and suddenly became a cheerleader for the police and security services and the anti-terror programme in the wake of the Manchester bombing…which Corbyn and the BBC blamed on Tory cuts to the police.

    Will the BBC spend as much time on the Chinese ‘allies’ in Parliament as they do on ‘Partygate’ or ideed on Russian interference in US democracy?

    One question the BBC will never ask is if ‘Partygate’ might indicate that the threat from covid was not as severe as the government wanted you to believe…and especially ask was lockdown the most appropriate and effective measure to deal with covid?

    Lord Frost this morning stated that lockdowns were the wrong way to go…

    ‘“I think, honestly, people are going to look back at the last couple of years globally and see lockdown as a pretty serious public policy mistake.”

    We know that Sage, The Science, said that lockdowns won’t stop deaths they just delay them….and so might help the NHS prepare.

    We know that Neil Ferguson believed the British public would never accept such draconian measures….but he didn’t account for the tidal wave of apocalyptic propaganda from the media that terrified the public and forced the government to lockdown.

    Boris is now at the mercy of his own weakness…having folded to the media, the BBC in particular, he ramped up the fear with the ‘nudge unit’ and now lives with the consequences as people who believed the hype quite naturally are asking why Boris himself didn’t believe his own propaganda.

    Caught in a trap of the BBC’s making in effect.

    Here’s what a founder of that nudge unit says now…


    ‘Witnessing how the UK and other governments have responded to the pandemic, I can now appreciate the vulnerabilities of well-intentioned, democratic regimes, and the potential for behavioural science to be used inappropriately….. it may be worth reflecting on where we need to draw the line between the choice-maximising nudges of libertarian paternalism, and the creeping acceptance among policy makers that the state should use its heft to influence our lives without the accountability of legislative and parliamentary scrutiny. Nudging made subtle state influence palatable, but mixed with a state of emergency, have we inadvertently sanctioned state propaganda?’

    The nudge unit has always been a somewhat dubious if not sinister measure….open to abuse and misuse….all the more so when the media, the state broadcaster in particular, is happy to adopt the nudge unit’s messaging and pump it out relentlessly without question as the BBC did with covid…and not just pumping out the message but exaggerating and hyping it to ensure the terror message sticks and allows for all sorts of measures to be imposed and kept imposed. Masks of course were not about effectiveness, they’re not effective in stopping covid, they are about perception and creating and maintaining the atmosphere of fear so that people believe the narrative and will obey.

    Fear was used to terrify people in order to allow the government to take more and more power to itself and to control the People….Covid propaganda was government terrorism to induce fear and obedience…

    In 1951 Hannah Arendt wrote the below as she explored the rise of dictatorships and the use of terror to control people….

    ‘A fundamental difference between modern dictatorships and all other tyrannies of the past is that terror is no longer used as a means to exterminate and frighten opponents, but as an instrument to rule masses of people who are perfectly obedient.

    In order to establish a totalitarian regime, terror must be presented as an instrument for carrying out a specific ideology; and that ideology must have won the adherence of many, and even a majority, before terror can be stabilized. ‘

    When you see how covid has been used to push through so many radical and extreme policies without parliamentary scrutiny, without the media scrutinising them, and without much backlash from a supine public you can see how this ‘nudging’ using fear has worked brilliantly….did any of us get a single say in the green take over of our lives and ecconomy?

    And the BBC, so famously there, in its own words, to ‘hold Power to account’ has failed spectacularly…lol…it doesn’t even hold itself to account as it allows anti-semitic messages to be spun on its network again and again and again.


  25. Northern Voter says:

    Iv’e just been in touch with the bBBC to say that at the time of the garden party I did not know anyone who was dying, or had covid. They haven’t been kind enough to reply and use me to counter all the allegations of pickerychoosy


  26. Wild Bill says:

    News tonight, Prince Andrew to lose his HRH title and others, why is this, what happened to ‘innocent until proven guilty’ ?


    • Up2snuff says:

      Wild Bill, maybe he has told everything to his mother? There’s nothing quite like being able to talk to Mum.

      Or Dad.


    • MarkyMark says:

      Tony Blair to be given an extra one in case he loses the first one.


      • Kaiser says:

        dodgy sex with a 17 year old (legal in britain) bad

        or causing the deaths of a million people under false pretenses and setting fire to the middle east with all its knock on effects good

        wtf is going on


        • Seppers says:

          Time to be rid of the honours system. It’s a bad joke and confusing for the young in terms of good examples. Only selfless or courageous people should get them. Or inventing something amazing.


  27. theisland says:

    Andrew stripped of military titles and royal patronages.


    • MarkyMark says:

      Plenty more ….

      Titles and styles

      Royal monogram
      19 February 1960 – 23 July 1986: His Royal Highness The Prince Andrew[243]
      23 July 1986 – present: His Royal Highness The Duke of York[b]
      Andrew is currently the ninth in the line of succession to the throne.[244] On rare occasions, he is known by his secondary titles of Earl of Inverness and Baron Killyleagh, in Scotland and Northern Ireland respectively.[243][245][246] In 2019 Inverness residents started a campaign to strip him of that title, stating that “it is inappropriate that Prince Andrew is associated with our beautiful city”, in light of his friendship with the convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein.[247]

      On 13 January 2022, it was announced that while Andrew retains the style of His Royal Highness as a British prince, he will no longer use it in a public capacity.[33]

      Naval ranks
      United Kingdom 1979–1981: Midshipman, Britannia Royal Naval College, HMS Seahawk
      United Kingdom 1981–1984: Sub Lieutenant, Pilot, 820 NAS on HMS Invincible;
      United Kingdom 1984–1992: Lieutenant, Pilot, 815 NAS on HMS Brazen; Helicopter Warfare Instructor, 702 NAS at RNAS Culdrose; Flight Commander, 829 NAS on HMS Campbeltown
      United Kingdom 1992–1999: Lieutenant Commander, Captain, HMS Cottesmore; Senior Pilot, 815 NAS at RNAS Portland; Directorate of Naval Operations, British Ministry of Defence
      United Kingdom 1999–2005: Commander, Diplomacy Section of the Naval Staff.[16] Released from the active list in 2001.[28]
      United Kingdom 2005–2010: Honorary Captain[29]
      United Kingdom 2010–2015: Rear Admiral[30]
      United Kingdom 2015–2022: Vice Admiral[31]
      See also: List of honours of the British royal family by country
      21 February 2011: Knight Grand Cross of the Royal Victorian Order (GCVO)[248]
      2 June 2003 – 21 February 2011: Knight Commander of the Royal Victorian Order (KCVO)[249][250]
      19 December 1979 – 2 June 2003: Commander of the Royal Victorian Order (CVO)[251][252]
      23 April 2006: Royal Knight of the Most Noble Order of the Garter (KG)[252]
      1977: Queen Elizabeth II Silver Jubilee Medal[252]
      1982: South Atlantic Medal, with Rosette
      2002: Queen Elizabeth II Golden Jubilee Medal[252]
      2012: Queen Elizabeth II Diamond Jubilee Medal[252]
      2016: Naval Long Service and Good Conduct Medal (1848)[253]
      UK Royal Victorian Order ribbon.svg South Atlantic Medal w rosette BAR.svg QEII Silver Jubilee Medal ribbon.png Queen Elizabeth II Golden Jubilee Medal ribbon.png
      QEII Diamond Jubilee Medal ribbon.png Ribbon – Naval Long Service and Good Conduct Medal v3.png CD-ribbon and bar.png New Zealand 1990 Commemoration Medal ribbon.png

      1990: New Zealand 1990 Commemoration Medal[252]
      2001: Canadian Forces Decoration (CD)[252] (with the first clasp)[253]
      2005: Commemorative Medal for the Centennial of Saskatchewan[254]
      Norway 1988: Grand Cross of the Order of St. Olav[252]
      United Arab Emirates 2010: Collar of the Order of the Federation[255]
      Mexico 2015: Sash of the Order of the Aztec Eagle[256]
      Spain 2017: Order of Isabella the Catholic[257]
      1 February 1984: Personal Aide-de-Camp to the Queen[252]
      2007: Lord High Commissioner to the General Assembly of the Church of Scotland
      5 May 2013: Royal Fellow of the Royal Society (FRS)[252][258]
      20 February 2015: Grand President of the Royal Commonwealth Ex-Services League[259]
      13 July 2015: Chancellor of the University of Huddersfield[188][260]
      20 April 2016: Honorary Fellow of the Society of Light and Lighting (Hon. FSLL)[261]
      1 May 2018 – November 2019: Honorary Fellow of Hughes Hall, Cambridge[189][262]
      Honorary military appointments
      In 2019, Andrew’s military affiliations were suspended and on 13 January 2022 they were formally returned to the Queen.[33]

      Canada Colonel-in-Chief of the Queen’s York Rangers (1st American Regiment)[263]
      Canada Colonel-in-Chief of the Royal Highland Fusiliers of Canada[263]
      Canada Colonel-in-Chief of the Princess Louise Fusiliers[263]
      Canada Colonel-in-Chief of the Canadian Airborne Regiment (disbanded)
      New Zealand
      New Zealand Colonel-in-Chief of the Royal New Zealand Army Logistic Regiment[263]
      United Kingdom
      United Kingdom Colonel of the Grenadier Guards[264]
      United Kingdom Colonel-in-Chief of the Royal Irish Regiment (27th (Inniskilling) 83rd and 87th and Ulster Defence Regiment)[263]
      United Kingdom Colonel-in-Chief of the Small Arms School Corps[263]
      United Kingdom Colonel-in-Chief of the Yorkshire Regiment (14th/15th, 19th and 33rd/76th Foot)[263]
      United Kingdom Colonel-in-Chief of the 9th/12th Royal Lancers (Prince of Wales’s)[263] (disbanded)
      United Kingdom Deputy Colonel-in-Chief of the Royal Lancers (Queen Elizabeths’ Own)[33]
      United Kingdom Royal Colonel of the Royal Highland Fusiliers, 2nd Battalion Royal Regiment of Scotland[263]
      United Kingdom Honorary Air Commodore, Royal Air Force Lossiemouth[263]
      United Kingdom Commodore-in-Chief of the Fleet Air Arm[263]
      United Kingdom Admiral of the Sea Cadet Corps[263]



  28. pugnazious says:

    LOL….you just have to laugh as the law of unintended consequences strikes again and the wokey BBC which so admires the statue toppling black and white vandal show becomes a victim of the same type of vandalism as its Eric Gill statue is attacked.

    Curiously [H/T is the BBC biased?] the BBC’s finest first response was to link this to their obsession…QAnon…oddly the BBC is not so obsessed with uncovering the BBC’s own ‘QAnon’ conspiracy that a group of Tory MPs were sexually abusing and murdering children in Westminster.

    Marianna Spring then made a surprising statement condemning the violence of the attack[a man hammering the statue…’violent’ but not much on the scale of things]….

    ‘Gill’s crimes are appalling – and this statue has often become a focal point for online conspiracy movements. But it raises concerns about willingness to resort to violent tactics.’

    I’m sorry but WTF? The BBC that has studiously ignored nearly two years of BLM/Antifa terrorism in America [and here] that burnt down city areas, used guns and violence to hijack city areas, smashed police stations and killed numerous people….now thinks using ‘violence’ is abhorrent? A man pounding on a statue with a hammer? It just doesn’t compare does it…and yet that’s what the BBC is aghast at.

    My main problem with the attack is that the target is so limited…next time maybe take a wrecking ball to the whole building and the poisonous propaganda that oozes from it.


    • G.W.F. says:

      The man who attacked the statue with a tiny little toffee hammer ought to be tried and convicted and given some kind of community service sentence where he is required to work on a building site, using a proper hammer for breaking up stone.


  29. StewGreen says:

    ITV local news
    “There are Left Behind neighbourhoods where you’re ‘46% more likely to die of Covid
    blah blah ..says new report”

    They didn’t really say that this is report comes from a committee of MPs who talk about Left Behind towns
    I did get a idea when they starting banging on “Hull Labour MP Diana Johnson says”

    Web story is clearer
    A group of MPs say parts of our region are ‘left behind’ neighbourhoods and suffering the effect of serious health inequalities.
    The research has found people in these areas are 46% more likely to die from Covid-19 and live 7.5 fewer years in good health than those in other parts of the country



  30. StewGreen says:

    BBC Operation Bump Boris :
    Did your region have a title like ours
    “A senior X-shire Tory says must step down” ?

    I thought, “who is this guy ?”

    “Philip Sagar in Grantham” said the screen label
    as he was on for just 40 seconds
    and they never said what his job is

    Then today they did a vox pop from Grimsby
    to stir up the BBC anti Boris campaign
    3 were Against Boris, 1 for.

    Philip Sagar was Chairman of the Conservative Association in Grantham
    ..He stood down in 2019
    And Twitter hasn’t mentioned since then.
    Whilst in office he stuck the knife on the the then local Tory MP Nick Boles.


  31. digg says:

    Barry Gardiner MP (LAB) should be charged with treason.

    The facts coming out from MI5 makes the press attacks on Boris (…in reality a bunch of Civil Servants at work) fade into insignificance compared to this.

    A CCP Chinese sleeper and his mother were working right in the offices of a Labour MP in Westminster to influence Government and its relationship with the CCP in China and to make it worse….that MP was taking payments in return. This tags him as a traitor and spy.

    It looks cut and dried but you we know what the BBC will make of this because he is Labour…don’t we?


    The highest levels of cronyism and favour at play.


    • StewGreen says:

      “since 2015, suspected Chinese agent Christine Lee has donated £675,588 to either Barry Gardiner’s office or directly to the Labour Party.”

      I did think that Maybe Gardiner could have been a good guy
      pretending to respect the Chinese, but then feeding info to MI5 all along.
      but 17 years is a long time.

      “He says that was all to fund researchers and aides in his office and did not benefit him personally.”

      Sun’s typo ?
      first say “since 2005”
      Then say “Donations began in September 2015”

      Mr Gardiner said he’d been “liaising with our Security Services for a number of years about Christine Lee and they have always known, and been made fully aware by me, of her engagement with my office and the donations she made to fund researchers in my office in the past”.


      Lib Dem leader Sir Ed Davey received a £5,000 donation from Ms Lee in 2013 when he was Energy Secretary in the coalition.


      • Fedup2 says:

        Does that mean that Barry was working for MI5 spying on the chinks then ? And trousers a pittance of £500k and employing a spy on the parliamentary estate ?….. lol as they say . …
        How many other labour MPs are working for MI5 ?


        • harry142857 says:

          A spokesperson for Hackney MP, Diane Abbott.
          ‘There is no way my office would let a foreign spy into my employ’
          Dimitri Putin added, ‘We vet all our employees rigorously’.


      • Nibor says:

        When Ed Davey was Energy Secretary he was receiving money from the Chinese !

        So who sanctioned Hinckley Point and who thought “green energy “ with Chinese made solar panels would be best for Chin…. Britain?


  32. StewGreen says:

    ITV advert just now Chris Packham was talking about birdwatching in an advert for the RSPB
    … I thought there was a BBC rule that stars are not allowed to be in adverts that are similar to their BBC programme role.
    They sacked Nick Knowles for his Shreddies advert where he talked about being a builder


    Then poor imporished Carol Vorderman came on flogging over-priced funeral plans.


    • MarkyMark says:

      BBC Complaint Summary:
      I take offence that presenters promote their books

      Full Complaint:

      I see that BBC presenters use their twitter accounts to promote items outside of the BBC
      …. Katty Kay (The Confidence Code and Womenomics),
      Jon Sopel (If Only They Didn’t Speak English),
      Chris Evans (Call the Midlife)
      Gary Lineker (goalhangerfilms.com) …

      there might be more around.

      Does the BBC charge the presenters for using the BBC brand to promote these items?

      Does the BBC get a kick back to reduce the TV License with each successful sale of these products?

      Can you tell me how this works … do the items on sale conform to the BBC core values and guidelines?

      Many Thanks.



    • MarkyMark says:

      2.3 Advertising must not bring the BBC into disrepute or jeopardise the value of the BBC brand. It must:

      a) be suitable for the target audience

      b) meet consumer expectations of the BBC brand

      c) not compromise the BBC’s impartiality, editorial integrity and independence


      2.4 All advertising must be clearly presented as commercial content, distinct from editorial content. The nature of an advertising relationship must be transparent so that it is clear to the audience that they are seeing a commercial message. Surreptitious or subliminal advertising is prohibited.

      2.6 Advertising arrangements must not include any endorsement by the BBC and should not create the impression of BBC endorsement.


  33. StewGreen says:

    Dec 3, 2021
    “Labour MP for Brent North Barry Gardiner has now written to Met Commissioner Cressida Dick asking her officers to investigate parties at Number 10 in breach of Covid lockdown rules at the end of last year.”


    • digg says:

      And now he is facing Gardiner Karma via the Commie lady he took a wad from I hope…

      One law for them huh


  34. StewGreen says:

    BBC’s Sardarizadeh ‘Yeh, only crazy QAnon are against the Ariel statue’

    He “forgot” to mention that The Survivors’ Trust and the National Association For People Abused In Childhood have called for the statue’s removal.


  35. Thoughtful says:

    As someone has said, remakably convenient the Chinese Spy issue comming immediately after Boris got himself into trouble again.


  36. StewGreen says:

    NetZeroWatch reporting on #CostOfNetZero
    A £13 million electric car battery manufacturer opened by the Secretary of State at the Department of Business, Energy and Industrial Strategy a mere 8 months ago has been forced to close as they were simply “unable to compete”

    Read more: https://oxfordmail.co.uk/news/19845626.430-jobs-go-milton-park-based-car-battery-firm-johnson-matthey/


    • tomo says:

      That Johnson Matthey battery effort was heavy on virtue as a business case from the start…

      – never imho a good sign

      Another case of get woke = go broke


  37. StewGreen says:

    Activist Gina Miller launches a new political party named True and Fair party


    • Thoughtful says:

      That will just take a few more votes from Labour and the Moster raving fib dems.


      • Nibor says:

        In all seriousness Thoughtful , coming back to your meme that we must pay politicians more ;

        Would the very rich lady Gina Millar launch her new party if we paid MPs the large amounts you say we should ?


    • digg says:

      Can I suggest an improvement in the name? Maybe “The lies and unscrupulous party” ?


    • Seppers says:

      It’s like a playground name for a political party


  38. StewGreen says:

    GBnews now : Peter Bones vs Jenni Bond
    .. JB “No one knew the BBC’s position on Brexit, they never admitted they got Brexit wrong”

    PB “The one organisation that has not asked me to talk about my bill is … ?”


  39. digg says:

    Strange thing… when I mention the shitty events surrounding Gardiner and the Commies to all my acquaintances baying for Boris’s blood they just put their fingers in their ears and chant la-la-la….

    Speaks volumes!


    • Halifax says:

      Notice how the BBC outrage over Boris is muted its nothing like the hate they had / have for Trump. They know that deep down Boris is a green woke lefty just like them…….


    • Thoughtful says:

      Gardiner is some obscure opposition back bencher no one has heard of and has little relevance in their everyday lives.
      He isn’t going to be prosecuted and will be allowed to keep the money.

      It isn’t the first time Boris has done this though, it’s a long list of scandals largely of his own making. On top of that he has made some catastrophic decisions and it all builds up into one big ball of crap which means if the Tories weren’t so useless and cowardly they would have dealt with long ago.

      And in some stunning other news Marxist pretend Tory Michael Gove, despite the outrage over BLiars knighthood has opened his big stupid Socialist gob to tell everyone what a great deserving guy he is demonstrating he is part of a Westminster bubble and a million miles away from the people of this country.

      Then Karma caught up and he got stuck in a lift !


      • Fedup2 says:

        The BBC has been very fond of Gardiner – and he was regularly put up by the Labour Party ( PRC ) branch to spout the party line .
        I don’t know when comrade gardiner was last put onto the state broadcasters ‘ airways – he obviously didn’t need the appearance fee due to his funding by the comrades .

        I wonder how many more have been bunged ?


        • tomo says:


          The Thousand Talents Program (self evidently something that Barry Gardiner mightn’t qualify for…)

          However the MSM in general do not pay much heed to the antics of the CCP


      • Jeff says:

        Gardiner is hardly some “obscure backbencher” he was a member of Corbyn’s shadow cabinet.

        He should certainly be making the news if it’s true that he’s pocketed a cool half a million from the Chinese. This is seriously odd and possibly dangerous.

        I never took to him and always thought he was a bit snidey…mind you, I thought that of most of Corbyn’s team.

        Could be he’s inadvertently done Boris a real favour…


        • Thoughtful says:

          Tony BLiar pocketed an estimated £200 Million out of Saudi and neighbouring countries and no one seems to want to know.

          Goodness only knows how much Bush Obama and Clinton have taken for the defence and promotion of Saudi Arabia and its Wahabist clerics.

          British PMs have all had their hands out for payments ever since Belgiums PM had to resign over payments, the king of Spain has had to go into exile because he got caught, yet people seem to think our politics is like the swan, all calm and grace where you can see but paddling like crazy where you can’t.


  40. MarkyMark says:


    Should BBC TV play the national anthem at closedown?
    The BBC should be “proud of our country” and bring back playing God Save the Queen late at night, in the year of the Queen’s platinum jubilee, Andrew Rosindell has said.

    BBC One used to close down with the national anthem, although now it simulcasts the News Channel overnight and has a verbal handover, although BBC Radio 4 carries on with the tradition.

    The Tory MP said he was “tired of the wokeness”, while Labour peer Jenny Chapman said she was not against the idea, but said it was “strange” for politicians to tell BBC what to broadcast.

    Release date:13 January 2022
    2 minutes




  41. StewGreen says:

    Covid : when they report death tallies on a Saturday,
    the bulk of the deaths happened on the Thursday

    There was a pattern that it was always about 50 of the tally applied to Thursday, and the rest spread back through Wed, Tue, Mon etc.

    but then on January 8th tally came in and then the tally applying to Thursday was 100
    and everyday since then it’s been about the same : about 100 new deaths logged as being from 2 days previously and a growing number being spread through the previous 3 or 4 days
    But why did high deaths manifest from January 8th ?
    I guess most of the dead caught Covid a few weeks earlier.

    But I do wonder if hospital routines play a part
    ie Is this a scenario ? that during Christmas and New Year hospitals don’t do any risky surgery.
    Then in January they start back, and a portion of those surgery patients have Covid
    and then some of those patients die in the risky treatment .


    • Sluff says:

      Deaths come 2-3 weeks after cases. Or more accurately cases in the over 55s.
      I’d expect deaths in the 300-400 area for a week or two but the decline in cases over the last few days is really good news, and so as good news obviously has rated barely a mention on the BBC.
      7 day averages are a more reliable indicator to eliminate the weekend effects and delay in ‘date of death’ reporting which is revised on following days.


  42. taffman says:

    “Covid in Wales: Mark Drakeford to ease Wales’ restrictions”
    Is the great dictator beginning to get ‘twitchy’?
    We taffmen do like our rugby.


  43. taffman says:

    “Downing Street staff have been accused of holding two leaving parties in No 10 on the eve of the Duke of Edinburgh’s funeral.”


  44. taffman says:

    “Boris Johnson: Ministers rally round PM as he faces calls to quit”
    Will Nadine act now ?


  45. taffman says:

    “Met Police hunt man recalled to prison who may pose risk”
    “A man who may pose a risk to the public and young children is wanted on a recall to prison and should not be approached, police say.”


  46. taffman says:

    “A cinema owner who admitted breaching Covid rules has been asked to clarify the grounds of an appeal.”
    I can think of someone else who has been breaching Covid rules .


  47. Sluff says:

    I can’t help feeling that a Labour MP taking over £400,000 from a Chinese spy is far worse than the Prime Minister having a drink in his own garden.

    But clearly the BBC do not agree.


  48. Nibor says:

    I can’t see how you can have a country in a lockdown, even a partial lockdown, but welcome invaders from across the sea .


  49. OldRec says:

    The BBC gleefully report the scary numbers of people dying ‘WITH’ Covid, ok not just the BBC but they’re the cheerleaders for sure. Also this sentence is a thinly disguised attempt to keep this post something like on topic.

    ‘With’ Covid? This anomaly has been discussed many times by a bunch of conspiracy theorist, no one is trying to trick us are they?

    My uncle died a few days ago. He was tested positive with Covid about three weeks ago although he had no symptoms. What he did have was…
    A unary infection, hyperglycaemia (or was it hypoglycaemia), multiple organ failure, dangerously low blood pressure, he had bowl problems, skin infections, a throat problem that meant it was almost impossible to eat or even drink, he was old and as frail as one can be and still be alive. On his last few days the poor bugger even had toothache.

    How he hung on for as long as he did with his ‘end of life, keep him comfortable, we can do no more’ type of care I don’t know. We were told several times over the last few weeks ‘it’s a matter of hours now’. Finally he gave up the fight and is thankfully at rest.

    So, what do you think was reported as his cause of death? What did he died ‘OF’, not even ‘WITH’?
    I complained.


  50. tomo says:

    The snake eating its tail…..